/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Gura summoned Godslayer Jap.

Hololive is not nijisanji
Should've scouted better homos, some with actual talent, more reliable and less prono to schizo attacks

Lost against the goob

>>56152282
No one can outnijify Nijisanji

>>56152282
Unironically, Gura. If Gura had went along with it and collabed with them I don't see the other girls like IRyS, Fauna, etc not following, resulting in full Nijification of the branch.

>>56152541
TPBP

He wanted a piece of the luxiem male vtuber pie but he came in too late and was too rushed and disorganized.

>>56152282
Is it true he's Ina's boyfriend? Is it true that he used his official position to hire a friend of Ina's ? Is it true that when they found out about it upstairs, he was fired and Ina went on "voluntary leave" for a few months ?

>>56152282
A-chan saved us, Kiara saying directly "I won't collab with males" helped too, and she probably ranted about omega and his retardation to JPs and their managers

>>56153999
Yes. It's all true, sister.

>>56152282
Because they waited until Niji was already reclining and people were clearly bored with male vtubers to release Tempus.

He got nijied himself and graduated

>>56154579
kek

>>56153999
If you want to see who was on Omega's side just look at Kiara, if Kiara never had any issue with someone then that chuuba never was on Omega's side. Kiara never had any issues with Ina so...
Ina's long break has to do with a gacha game called Arknights, both Ina and Sana had characters announced for that game and both got a char in the game, but once they joined Hololive China blocked them, so they had to choose. Sana said goodbye to Hololive and got her second character and 2 events dedicated to them and Ina stayed and will never get more characters in the game.

Who cares?

>>56153741
God Save the Queen.

So how much role did Omega even play in everything thats gone on with EN? Some people seem to blame everything bad that EN has ever done on Omega for some reason.

>>56152282
Got too carried away by the attractiveness of the idea that he was tapping into some vast untouched market of male and female normalfags out there who would simply be entranced by the high-quality entertainment coming out of Cover. Didn't bother working on something as basic as marketing user stories to figure out his main target demographics and how certain decisions would impact them.
In his conception of the typical attached couple in the 18-25 age range, the woman would happily accept her man purchasing 15-dollar acrylic stands and figurines of scantily-clad anime girls, displaying it around the house for family and friends to laugh at when they came over.
"No, you don't understand, they're just wholesome funny online entertainers we just bought merch of to support!" you insist to your in-laws, as your eight-year-old nephew Jack ogles Kronii's boobs on the dakimakura you use as a sofa cushion.

>>56154943
Because they need a big bad villain for their schizo delusions

>>56153741
True she saved us all

>>56154579
Heh.

>>56154943
confirmed just 3 things
>Banned HoloEN from collabing with JP to try to reach to the chinese market
>The lore of Councyl
>HolostarsEN and pushing HolostarsEN

>>56152282
Because he is an actual Nijinigger (look up the history of Loserbait) and Hololive is not Nijisanji

>>56154950
>"No, you don't understand, they're just wholesome funny online entertainers we just bought merch of to support!" you insist to your in-laws, as your eight-year-old nephew Jack ogles Kronii's boobs on the dakimakura you use as a sofa cushion.
Kek

>>56155131
>Banned HoloEN from collabing with JP to try to reach to the chinese market
Was this actually confirmed? I'd believe it. You have a source?

>>56152282
maybe if tempus was a chinese branch, they would have been more successful, but the fact of the matter is that there is no market for male vtubers in the west

>>56155266
Yes. Coco said it was en management that stopped her from collabing with the EN girls until the end.

>>56154950
I mean the meteoric rise of Hololive back in 2020 was something really huge, it's easy to understand EN success deluded management into thinking they could go mainstream just like Nijisanji did in Japan.

>>56152282
>his

>>56152282
Thought the the vast majority of the Hololive EN fanbase was like the mentally ill echo chamber that is Twitter.

>>56152282
>Why did his Nijification gambit fail?
Because the Hololive audience doesn't want Nijification. They want Hololive to be Hololive.

>>56152282
What kind of retard one would have to be to want to turn HoloEn into another NijiEn? Like are you a retard and blind too?
Omegatroon had to go. Hopefully he's completely out of the company. Such a retard is a huge liability to keep around. If it wasn't for him HoloEn would have been way bigger right now but the damage has already been dealt.

>>56152282
Let's take a look at Tempus 1 shall we?
>a faggot
>a male menhera
>a short lived meme
>boring
Gee I wonder why it didn't work. I don't even remember Tempus 2.

>>56152282
His first mistake was expecting anyone to watch the males. His second mistake was trying to poison the golden goose. His third mistake was being a lore riddled retard.

>>56152282
how the fuck did this guy found tempiss 1 they're absolutely the worst people to be put on the spotlight.
>blue tranny desperately wants to be up there with his otv idols no matter what
>fagni actually believes cover is holding him back when no one knew who the fuck when was prior
>vestroon despite being Indiana Jones on a bike has multiple breakdowns sabotages projects via negligence and got found out as the office bullshitter
>axel is as good with his money as he is with his brain, dude blew everything from their heavily shilled debut after omega offered to pay more of his covers
tempiss 2 is so forgettable I doubt they're actual people and not AI using AI voices.

POWERFUL WIND, BACK-SLICKED HAIR

>>56152282
Because he tried to nijify in the first place.
Guy was clearly one of those types who never bothers to understand what numbers mean so he saw luxiems numbers and saw dollar signs without understanding the context behind luxiems success and why any attempt to copy it was doomed.

>>56155131
Also pushed "we don't do gens in en" shit too i'm pretty sure, they dropped it and started calling each other properly

>>56157265
>"we don't do gens in en"
Baffling

>>56152282
because unicorns are more profitable and unicorns are the main audience of, if not vtubing, of hololive.

They can say incel, parasocial fucks, and manbaby as many times as they want, but a dollar from an incel buys as much as a dollar from a non-incel.

>>56153741

>>56157265
That is still true and will be the way going forward with EN and JP gens. Nobody calls advent Gen 3 or holoX Gen 6 like the early JP gens, ID is somewhat of an exception I guess

>>56156083
didn't you hear? By popular demand, chud.

>>56157688
It's actually a smart move, if you keep on tacking numbers on it starts getting ridiculous like you're a Final Fantasy title or something

>>56157688
They were not allowed to call myth senpais and vise verse

>>56157804
Yea thats pretty much the case with modern multimedia franchises you can see it in movies and videogames really easily

>>56157940
I definitely remember council girls calling myth senpais in their first week. and lets be honest advent girls will drop it a month later, some of the girls are already dropping it. It is more of a honeymoon thing for EN

>>56158123
And i remember Ame saying "we don't do senpai and gen thing here in en"

>>56152541
I actually like tempus 2 a lot. But Hololive just doesn't have a large female chinese base. Also Niji males get their fanbases through sexual ERP bait streams which hololive does not do. Hiring funny guys who are generally good entertainers is meaningless when your competition is hiring deep voiced pedophiles who do BDSM erotic roleplay streams aimed at chinese teenaged femcels.
Ultimately hololive just cannot compete in that market and shouldn't. I think Tempus 2 are good hires and very much in line with JP Stars. Tempus 1 were a massive mistake. Luckily Altare is ingratiating himself with Tempus 2 to make amends for his collab begging and Axel is going the JP stars route by collabing with VSPO etc.
We shant talk about Magni and Vesper the fucking retarded faggots.

>>56157688
tell me you don't watch jps without saying so

>>56157399
Pretty much this. Homobeggars are the antithesis and subversion of Unicorns/Yumes

>>56152282
What makes you think you have a clue what his "gambit" was in the first place?

>>56158123
>advent girls will drop it a month later
Fuwamoco and Nerissa will never drop it. Bijou seems pretty respectful so she probably won't drop it either.

>>56158214
Thats bullshit

>>56154783
Shame because Jackie is cute and needs more titty skins. Jackie is better than Sana's characters that she obsesses over .

>>56158324
I have literally already heard rissa not use senpai. Fuwamoco I'll give you thatbut we'll find out

>>56152282
Because he ran against the Cliq of Gura, Fauna, Kiara and Ame

>>56158214
That's because all the girls were instructed so and senpai thing were never going to last more than a month for english speaking girls as you will be seeing the same with advent

>>56154783
Sana picked a fucking gacha game over playing games and drawing on stream as a career.

>>56154783
>Arknights
fuck that game for killing girls frontline.

>>56158324
Bijou has already skipped using senpai plenty of times, non-stream watcher.

>>56158237
Shinri is based for streaming Etrian Odyssey.
But even if all of Tempus were great StarsEN would have been a mistake, it created a ton of unnecessary drama and clearly hurt the brand at least temporarely. Advent will show if the damage is permanent.

>>56158819
though if all of tempus was great, there probably wouldn't be drama. we would never see suspension shit and weird behavior if it wasn't for hq

The only reason I know if Tempus is doing something is because of the catalog. Again, its such an irrelevant branch. Why did Omega even approve of this shit?

>>56158726
>non-stream watcher
Yeah and I wear it as a badge of honor

>>56154783
>Ina stayed and will never get more characters in the game
She got to draw the art for a throwaway 4* with a garbage kit. She never had any stake in that game.
Sana on the other hand, "drew" pink Korone (c-cat btw, so it's d-definitely not based on her) and totally-not-rip-off Rimuru from reincarnated as a slime, but at least they were both 6*s so she had more to lose.

>>56152282
>Nijification
>6 out of 8 of them have god awful designs that turn off everyone instantly

>>56158237
Axel doesn't collab all that much with VSPO, he is trying to get in with the FPS/JP streamer group that VSPO are in with though.

>>56153741
Just from listening to how Gura talks about Hololive and what she believes it to be, it would require all of JP to change before she'd consider buying in.

>>56159206
Why is he even in en then should ve been in stars jp

>>56152282
The only one in hololive production that wanted to participate in the "ALL OUT WAR", now he's out and things are getting 10000000000000000000000000 times better

>>56152282
The idea was probably to pull in more mainstream audience. They just forgot that the western mainstream audience despises Anime and corporations in online entertainment.

>>56153741
there is a reason she is still pulling the big numbers and the other male collabing thots can't hit 10k now.

>>56159630
Cause Stars wasn't hiring and the talents didn't really want anymore, that's why they did the uproar thing to separate it from stars.

>>56152282
>Nijification gambit
you and everyone else ITT are just making shit up in your heads and are using someone whom none of you actually know what she does as a scapegoat

>>56160124
>she

>>56153741
Imagine having all your political maneuvering and meticulous planning undone by an alcoholic midget.

>>56159132
so it's exactly like Niji then kek

>>56155489
A lot of the mainstream NijiJP products are basically women's clothing and such, like a skirt or a blouse that looks normal on the outside but has a liver's name/logo on the tag. That kind of marketing requires a completely different approach since you're shilling to girls who want to spend money on their hobby but not be seen in public with it. Just a completely different business model.

>>56153999
>and Ina went on "voluntary leave" for a few months
Ina mentioned that she didn't like revealing outfits, canceled the streams for that week, and needed a sudden radio silent "health break". Management was furious and she could only make the vague promise that she would return before HoloFes that was over 5 months away. Omega didn't seem to get along with HoloEN since the mood didn't improve until after the December changes when the EN branch got a new project director.

You guys are praising gura but lets not forget who is the real hero behind the scenes, literally shielding her against the plans of that freak.

>>56152282
Unlike NijiEN fans, HoloEN fans have a backbone.

>>56157688
ID also doesn't do the senpai kouhai thing like EN but they're not averse to doing so.
>and will be the way going forward with EN and JP gens
The JPs still do that though? There's some special cases like Botan but that's more because of Botan's actual age than anything else.

>>56158214
I remember that too but once they all got to Japan for their mocaps it was senpai kouhai all around. Bae and Irys are pretty meticulous about it too, at least for first meetings.

>>56153741
I can believe that. Gura is seen by normalfags peeking into Hololive but not entirely into the rabbit hole as the "face" of vtubing.

I'll hate that faggot for wasting an entire model that could've actually been used by anyone.

>>56160858
>The JPs still do that though? There's some special cases like Botan but that's more because of Botan's actual age than anything else.
No I was talking about the generation thing. I am pretty sure holoX is rarely referred as Gen 6 instead of holoX. Of course they use senpai affix. ENs do when interacting with JP as well

>>56154783
Most of Ina's gacha game work was for Azur Lane, but she's since moved on to focus on LN illustrations.

>>56158684
bro, she was fucking dead on hololive, and you can thank the shit model for that

>>56161351
If that's the case then I've heard HoloX being referred to Gen 6 numerous times, at least on Koyori's side of things. Interchangeable shit. Nobody calls 3rd gen as HoloFantasy but that's how they're named before Omega came onto the scene.

>>56161351
>>56161453
Because holoX is pronounced as ホロックス (horokkusu) where roku is 6, it's just clever wordplay that still acknowledges them as gen 6.

>>56158819
I enjoyed Tempus generally in the same way I enjoyed Pikamee or Tenma. Its a pretty fun thing that just isnt part of the Hololive I love.Vespe hes one of my favorites and hes cool as shit but he will never be playing MC with a shy socially awkward Gura like Kaela or Biboo will

The issue is Tempus is labeled as the reason we didnt get EN3. None of these guys with their 1-3K viewers caused that no matter how obnoxious Omegatroon or Troontare seem. If this was Omegas fault/intention that just sucks for everyone because a Holostars EN should be a harmless niche developed on the side

>>56153741
Gura dug her heels in and even when her shitty ass fanbase seethed at her for not streaming she STILL stuck to her principles and dream of Hololive idols. Now that that vision is a reality she's a happy shark. I sincerely did not expect someone that based to come from the west, and she deserves to wield the Holokatana alongside her senpai.

>>56152282
too much time wasted with dilating

>>56152487
>>56153741
Gura is Jap-sama >:3

>>56153741
That would entail Gura streaming regularly (recent renaissance notwithstanding).

>>56157804
Fuck off Vince.

>>56162602
Reducing EN Box during peak Tempus was necessary tho

>>56155461
Doesn't mean it was Omega specifically TBF. Shit the earliest hard evidence we have of Omega even entering the picture was an Irys song.

>>56156083
...Which is which?
Legitimately I know all 4 of them and can't tell.

>>56161168
this des

>>56162699
Is that the core of the rrat? Creative, I'll give it that.

>>56162352
Thats because Jews are technically from the middle east no?

>>56165695
wtf are you talking about retard take your pol shit somewhere else