/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

They won't get any good applicants because western girls can't play video games.

>>56062725
Well in that case, they can still hire Asian ESLs

>>56062665
No. VSPO is known in Japan, but basically zero EN mindshare. I wouldn't expect numbers to be any better than what you see from whatever small corpo.

>>56062665
If they can integrate with VSPO JP ala HoloEN x HoloJP. Otherwise if they're siloed, picrel.

>>56062665
Only if they can poach Selen. VSPO should be in her DMs right now if they're smart.

>>56063316
>Selen
Kek, destroyed her own brand by being a menhera. Fuck off back to your general Fagoon.

>>56063316
But VSPO is for good fps player only

>>56063316
Imagine hiring a girl who has a mental breakdown every time things don't go her way in a competitive game.

>>56062842
So, just like nijisanji?

>>56063399
Do you really?

>>56062665
Considering how low views they have and how shit the conditions in the branch are. Yes they are scared shitless of anything that comes up
Selen followed those guys on twitter by the way

>>56063362
Calm it with the seethe and projection.
Are you really claiming that NijiEN is not scared of Selen leaving? It's obvious that they'd prefer not to lose any of their more senior members.
>>56063399
She's washed up but still good enough. VSPO isn't for the best of the best, it's mainly about being willing to tryhard - fans want to see them improve, like idols - except with gaming instead of singing/dancing.
>>56063444
Unless they can nab an ultra-rare type of talent - an entertaining, skilled FPS hag - you won't be able to find much better candidates in that regard. They're looking for women, after all.

>>56063362
Doesn't matter, she is well known on the scene. It's the sort of splash they need for people to take any notice beyond just smallcorp levels.
Or actually find some genuinely good players, but are they even out there in the western scene?

>>56062665
forget nijien the girls aren't going to beat non-nene kawaii numbers even unless they can get selen somehow or constantly collabs with en fps streamers
just look at how grim their current en girls are numberwise >>56062892 maiko only had 34 ccv during MK collab stream..

>>56062665
>Should NijiEN be scared?
Not of VSPO. They're busy falling apart without anybody's help.

>>56062665
Nah. I would watch them if they play cs though. Especially if they're true cs players. Please. I wanna watch a csgo player from a corpo

>>56062665
VSPO is famous for leeching from big irl streamers so it depends on how the streamer scene is like in EN

>>56062665
yes but for them

>>56063547
Even Nijisanji is a scale higher it's just that low.

>>56062665
depends on how sex they make the vtuber models

>>56064388
I legit can't tell if the left one is korean or chinese, what's with that fonts?

They need Selen to have a chance of springboarding past small corpo numbers. Seems good news to them though that their audition announcement has several thousands of likes and RTs though, which means there is at least some increased public awareness in comparison to other small corpos who barely, if ever passed the thousand mark before launching.

>>56062665
VSPO will be the 2nd best en agency after Hololive. Nijikeks should be scared.

>>56063399
>But VSPO is for good fps player only
lol
lmao even

My question is if laplus killed selen in apex and mel killed laplus in valorant is selen worse than mel????

>>56063362
NijiCN Management made her menhera

>>56065237
No because both games are very different from one another. I suck ass in Counter Strike but am pretty good in Halo.

>>56064515
Does it really matter when you literally can't make anything more than some lame ecchi fanart out of it?
They have the same bullshit fanart guidelines going on as with Valkyrie Chronicles on that regard.

>>56062665
Cant wait for the raspberry king to camp their chats kek

>>56062665
>Should NijiEN be scared?
Why should they? Even as Nijifag, Anycunts are too busy with hiking the share price. The actual talent earnings and CCV don't matter.
And that assume VSPO didn't self-destruct before Niji actually implode from all the rot.

>>56066200
>They have the same bullshit fanart guidelines going on as with Valkyrie Chronicles on that regard.
>Valkrye Chronicles fanart guidelines
I never heard of this. Wat.

>>56066200
You can still get great art, just look at umas.

unless they hire ex-female pros, i don't see them getting any "good" FPS players.
unless they will try to stray away from that

>>56062665
Do you remember all those female eports teams fiascos? Vspo is that.

Will VSPO EN get this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrTbRhd5MAE

>>56063362
>not even out of the company yet
>nijiniggers are already turning on her
Grim.

>>56067177
she made their oshi, Anycolor Inc, look bad with the tournament stuff.

>>56062665
Vspo's formula is tried and true: just find people who can rank in top 0.1% in some competitive game as a standardized test. Competent people who can achieve success in one field (even if it's just vidya) are usually smart enough to do it in another. So then they just need to give them a high quality anime avatar and teach them how to stream.

Their problem is that all the people with gaming talent in the west have already been snatched up by esport orgs (eg Vienna by c9, dtto by scarz, etc)

>>56067553
didn't vienna go indie about 6 months ago?

>>56067553
>Vspo's formula is tried and true: just find people who can rank in top 0.1% in some competitive game as a standardized test.
Beni...

My big concern is what VSPO EN can offer. In Japan, vtubers are more established, and the competitive scene is more decentralised which allows more E-B tier tournaments. This is a perfect mix for VSPO because it means there's plenty of tournaments with high profile names for them to participate in. EN has no such equivalent. If you're a chuuba fan and want to watch an APEX tournament you either watch pro fleshtubers or literal who Indies. There's no CR Cup or VSaikyo over here, and therefore no value in hiring only gamer girls.

Selen herself said that the reason she hasn't hosted an APEX tournament is because she doesn't think there'll be enough interested participants and that won't magically change. All VSPO EN recruits will just be reincarnations of indie chuubas and if any of them decided to host a tournament they'd still be relying on NijiEN and even HoloEN's participation for established names and brand recognition. VSPO are actually better served by letting NijiEN and HoloEN hire/keep hiring 'gamers' because a collab with 750k sub Selen in a tournament is better than hiring Selen and losing an opportunity to reach out to the NijiEN fans.

>>56068041
>the competitive scene is more decentralised which allows more E-B tier tournaments.
Huh. Fighting games tournaments are pretty decentralised with a lot of online weeklies/monthlies and locals, is the FPS scene just concentrated in the hands of a few orgs?

>>56066834
If ENs get 3Dlives before NijiENs do it will be quite the shake-up

>>56067177
but I always hated her and fans tho

>>56062665
*HoloEN

>>56068491
>is the FPS scene just concentrated in the hands of a few orgs?
The FPS space is fragmented in the western space because you have "influencers" like TimtheTatman or Dr. Disrespect who are above average players, but can maintain a following from one game to another. As influencers the things they say can make or break a games viability. Take for example the recent Warzone protest. Viewership metrics for that game nosedived because they weren't propping it up. Which sucks for those actively wanting to grow around said game (like Selen with Apex)

Whereas the e-sports scene lacks personalities and/or likeable streamers 9 times out of 10. While they can play with immense skill; the stream quality is on par of a 2view indie as they curse up a storm because nobody is capping B.

Better yet, look at NijiEN's recently failed "GAMER" wave. They took a year preparing to debut them and they are already 3views. If VSPO is smart, scoop up the leftovers of whatever you can from the Overwatch League, maybe hit up Sleepy from Twitch and get Selen. Least ensure your first generation can balance the act of vTubing and gaming right.

>>56068491
More or less. For FPS, if you want Overwatch you go to the dying OWL, if you want APEX you go to ALGS or a handful of much smaller events. Twitch Rivals is casual but also invite-only. So yeah, there's just not as much FPS stuff for vtubers to join. If VSPO EN don't host their own, they'll just be a 3-stack team in the JP events that'll take them, and I say 'take them' because there'll already be a lot of VSPO members stacking the lobby, and these tournaments have channel requirements like only being allowed to join if you have 50k subs, for example. Unless Brave Group are willing to invest big cash prizes into VSPO EN hosted tournaments to entice fleshtubers, their popularity feels more of a long-term gamble.

>>56062665
Vspo should also do fighting games.

>>56063399
they suck

Weird thing to numberfag about, but they have a higher engagement than Phase, Idol and even NijiEN for their audition announcements. Goes to show there is anticipation for them and might end up being medium corpo-tier and the NijiEN killer if they play their cards right.

>>56062665
>VSPO going to release En branch.
As Nijifag, please don't do this. You will regret it. Also where the hell they going to find a dedicated female FPS player? Maybe you can bag Selen. But who else?

>>56070758
Too late
COPE and SEETHE

>>56070615
also if you sort by ccv on holodex for all vtubers, they are already consistently above most of niji (and sometimes holo en). they win quality over quantity

I have a hard time imaging it remotely getting anywhere.
VSPO got popular because of the tournaments, and networking with the Japanese/Korean pro scene + flesh streamers along with other boxes. I highly doubt Western e-sports orgs or fps streamers want anything to do with Vtubing and the EN Vtubing scene simply isn’t big enough for them to do something like VSai or CR Cup (not to mention getting sponsors).
I guess VSPO EN members will still me welcome in the JP scene like Rpr or whatever, but then there will be no point in having a separate EN branch.

>>56070758
TSM also recently signed an all female team:
https://www.dexerto.com/apex-legends/tsm-signs-all-women-apex-legends-pro-team-2045603/

and if you manage to hire someone like selen, she can refer all her indie/nonstreamer friends too. all of which have been grinding ranked with her for years so they should all be at a similar skill level.

>>56062725
The entire branch will be trans, probably. The only women who can play games well are autistic white guys.

>>56071318
That might work

>>56071219
That's exactly what I think. I don't follow EN but I don't think there are people like Shaka/StylishNoob or Daruma/Arisaka in EN scene. People aren't going to give a fuck about vtuber tournaments when it's all literally whos competing against each other.

>>56071391
im an autistic white guy, you think i got a shot anon?

>>56071579
It won't work because VSPO doesn't hire men and that's literally all of Selen's 'connections'. Her pro connections also aren't that special in the indie scene, either. Kaisa/Redsong01 is a better player than Selen and she's a 2-view that can sing and is a mod on Wigg and Nocturnal's streams. A good friend of hers is Shirosaki Mato, a Predator-level 2-view who is Japanese native and streams in English. Both of them regularly play with each other but also other Master/Diamond-level girls.

The only thing Selen can offer that others can't is the core audience of Dragoons that are okay with her spamming APEX. But that leads into something I feel everyone is ignoring. Selen is a variety streamer because playing competitive games all the time made her depressed and miserable. She loses that cushion outside of Niji. Fans want to see her do well but no one expects her to because she barely plays the games. That changes in VSPO. If she gets hardstuck in 17th Place in tournaments as a part of VSPO she's going to look like dogshit and won't have the excuses to help her recover anymore. It's a mental health speedrun.

even ame would've passed the vspo "at least master rank in one game" requirement
it's not a very high bar

>>56070615
>2020 NijiEN audition
>2023 VSPOEN audition
Cant you compare it to the latest NijiEN audition announcement? Comparing it to three year old tweets seems retarded

>>56072972
and this was selen. it was very trendy to put your peak elo in your stream title in that era

>>56062665
Nijien is dead already. Nijiwhores would probably leech off of VSPOen

>>56071908
Go for it, when you make it just don't collab with males

>>56071908
yes, but you need to start your HRT now

>>56072997
Niji vs VSPO part specifically compares their very first audition announcements, but if you want to look at the latest Niji audition then it's 4550 RTS/2280 QRTS/27.3K likes, which is slightly ahead. Phase and Idol only has their 1st audition engagements in the low-medium hundreds as expected.

>>56073150
>Nijiwhores would probably leech off of VSPOen
what a world that would be

>>56072359
>"All of Selen's connections are men"
>forgets about dtto, vgumi, froot, ollie, zen, etc

Meh, I mean I think Redsong01 is a perfect fit for vspoen, alongside Niamocha and other indie vtubers that mainly plays apex. But I don't think you see how close the similarities of her and Selen are, just that Selen's overall 'stats' are better. Considering that Selen now has connections in the pro scene of not just apex (noc, tempo, wigg) but also on overwatch (surefour, linkzr, others), while redsong01 mainly streams apex with other indies (mostly male too). Also I think they're actually on par with fps skills too, even when Selen is variety, you can see her improvement in her solo fps streams since she can't troll much because no one can carry her. If Selen ever went to Vspo, she'll probably improve way more since all she can play is fps games, but that's unlikely since she has infinitely way more benefits in staying at niji.
So vspoen can only get the indies, or i guess people like babynikki who loves japan, learning japanese, has pro connections, and is looking into vtubing too.

>>56071219
This. Also western people who are into fps mainly just watch the pro players like imphal and mande, that's why fps chubaas stay 2-3views even if they're good at the game. So most likely the EN branch would just leech off of its main branch's connections and mainly collabs with the eastern part of the fps sphere.

The fans/interns astroturfing here already seem scared. This is apparently the third largest vtubing agency in Japan, it’s not hard to imagine some talents either trying to jump ship or some potential indie applicants applying to this new company as their back up for if they can’t make it into Hololive. Because NijiEN offers very little and this entire year probably scared off most outside of the very desperate of applicants.

>>56075995
>So most likely the EN branch would just leech off of its main branch's connections and mainly collabs with the eastern part of the fps sphere
I doubt people who are watching VSPO right now would care about VSPOEN, and the JP VSPO girls can collab with the EN girls all they want, the high profile JP streamers and their fans wouldn't care about EN

>>56062665
They should probably focus on JP ESL women because finding western ones that play at the high end is difficult.
I'm surprised btw how Apex ranked distribution works. 25% of players are Masters or higher. It really is just a grinding ladder huh?
In Valorant, Ascendant is top 2.7%, Diamond top 9.2% and Platinum top 20.8%

>>56075208
If you were reading the thread I was obviously referring to connections Selen could reach out to to audition alongside her/for future gens. Ollie, Froot, dtto, Ollie, Zen etc aren't budging from where they are. The people who she climbed rank with off stream are all dudes. The people who live in pro player poverty like Linkzr, Muma etc are all dudes. Selen barely interacts with her own branch so expecting her to be some kind of catalyst for gen unity by hiring her own people and collabing FPS games with them just sounds like a pipe dream. Yes, she has connections but she also has connections in Niji. She's getting invited to VSaikyo and Twitch Rivals because she's 'Selen', not because she's the person behind Selen. It's a big gamble with no clear motive for her.

Freedom? She's joining another JP corpo with perms hell. Networking? She doesn't speak Japanese. She's already networked her ass off as Selen. Collab projects? Nijisanji has 200 people. Money? Selen is one of the few members who constantly talks about how much she spends on projects. Beyond that, she already got the subscriber updraft from being in the company when Luxiem exploded. She'll never hit 750k subs again and will therefore never hit her goal of 1m subs - which is a goal she only set for herself a couple of weeks ago.

>>56075208
>all she can play are FPS
They're FPS focused but they all do some variety. They have a Minecraft server, they play Genshin or HSR. If anything it fits Selen's style that much better.

>>56062665
Sisters can cope and seethe but Selen is 1100% leaving and that will hurt nijiEN.

>>56062665

I guess the only way vspoen can become big is if somehow they can get their talents into playing in the big tourneys, but it would be hard to do since western female players that are capable of doing so are already signed to esports orgs and is well established in their respective spheres. Otherwise they could just get stuck into playing ranked FPS games or just hope to get invited in the JP tourneys, which is also hard to do considering the amount of JP FPS streamers automatically given priority first.

>>56062665
>western
>female
>"""gamer"""

>>56069184
what about csgo?? why do japs hate this fucking game? is it because its not anime enough?

>>56078665
because it's not zoomer friendly and isn't being shilled by a big JP streamer or org

>>56078665
I've been watching Niji since 2019 and VSPO since 2020 and only remember a brief stint of VSPO members playing CSGO together before falling back in line to Apex and Valorant. Similar to what we're talking about with the EN scene, there's just not enough interest in JP to have CSGO overtake Valorant. Maybe that'll change with CS2 but it could also just become a FOTM game. Vtubers are slaves to numbers so until an Apex-killer puts it's dick on the table we are stuck in purgatory, and that means VSPO EN are reliant on hiring EN Apex/Valo players.

>>56069157
You are understating how bad things were with the niji gamer wave. Most of the initial gamer group they recruited initially ended up canned/left during the onboarding process.
They even dropped the gamer branding during debut.

The western pro scene just has no chill and if VSPO EN manages to be as good of a time as JP is, I'll consider it a miracle

>>56076876
>She's getting invited to VSaikyo and Twitch Rivals because she's 'Selen', not because she's the person behind Selen.

Uhh no. The people organizing these aren't idiots, they know it's the same person and they know that most of her fans and viewers know it's the same person because someone as high profile as Selen reincarnating will be an open secret. The same way Nekota Tsuna was immediately embraced by the FPS box as if she was already playing with them all the time will be how Selen's new persona will be treated.

>>56062842
I mean this was pretty much nijisanji right before NijiEN. All people knew were Lulu and Gibara and both of them graduated right before NijiEN debuted.

>>56078665
too much gore, Japs aren't good with that
CS2 just made it more gory, so that's not gonna catch on either

>>56071219
Eh, if their scouting team is decent and they get at least 3 good prospects, it's not gonna be much of a loss to debut them and try to corner their own niche of the chuuba market.
And if all the applicants turn out to be shit, just memoryhole the whole thing, or wait until 1 or 2 years to see if anyone decent applies.

>>56062665
most obvious astrosurfing I've seen from a corpo in a while

Reading this thread has educated me on how Selen isn't the only female EN vtuber who's decent at Apex
>Redsong01
>Niamocha
Anyone else that I can check out?

>You have to be a pro-level player to get in VSPO.
>You have to play competitive mutliplayer games, preferably FPS ones, as a VSPO member.
But that's not true.

>All hidden streams are Valorant.
They can stream a variety of games, but some of them like to play FPS ones (APEX, Valorant, COD, CSGO, Splatoon, OW, etc) because they either like it or because those games are easy/conventient content while being moderately popular among viewers.

They also stream zatsudans/morning shows/variety shows, karaokes, Minecraft, GTA5 RP, co-op games(Phasmophobia, etc), RPGs like DQ11/Nier/etc and more. Some of them are also decent singers that release covers from time to time. They don't play FPS games exclusively.
I don't know how this myth was created.

Multiple members also had their 3D debuts this year and they are doing 3D lives too.

>>56081813
Dtto is actually cracked and is also on twitch but most of the times she speaks thai or japanese

>>56067630
oh please no. japanese people at least understand that no one is interested in ex-boyfriend stories

>>56081813
There's actually not many decent female EN FPS vtubers aside from the usual well known ones like Selen, vGumiho, and Apricot(?).

I heard Reimu, Kotoka, and Maria from nijien plays apex too, although I don't know how well they play. Does anyone here know?

>>56083110
>Apricot
Grim

>>56081385
Nijisanji was much more known than vspo before njien

>>56081102
you know she only was able to go to vsaikyo and jp tournaments because she was a niji member right

>>56084598
they literally had two talents that were known to EOPs and both graduated by the time EN debuted
no one in their fanbase even knows about the original NijiEN and how they got shafted

>>56064532
That's Chinese.
Moreover, vspo is owned by the Brave Group, which is in some ways more notorious than Any Color.
If the management approach differs from that of Japan, the environment could be worse than a rainbow.

>>56062665
*HoloEN

>>56086484
NIJISEETHE

>>56085441
Yes? my point still stands, nijijp was much more known in the west than vspo is. theres a reason vshojo is called the third biggest here and not vspo, unfortunately

>>56086522
>Be Nijisanji
>"Oh no, this chuuba is graduating! I will miss them!"
>>"Don't worry anon, they're going to be fine over here on X, Y, or Z"

>Be Hololive
>"Oh no this chuuba is graduating! I will miss them!"
>>Don't worry anon, the--
>SO FUCKING MUCH, I'll wait 498 more years!
>It's like i can hear my little necromancer still!
>5th Gen will always be 5!!
>>Guy's they're right over here
>............God i miss my oshi soooooo much, BEEEEEEG Space!

If anything, the safe bet for VSPO will be to recruit from literally anywhere except Hololive, the fanbase their has a very burnt bridge mindset if the blue chip isn't attached to them

>>56086990
I know you guys have a habit of stating blatant lies as fact, but the switch around here is seriously impressive. Former Hololive talents have all retained audiences better than Nijisanji, and that's saying nothing about Nijifans' proclivity for playing the attack dogs when the company marks someone out.

>>56067630
C9 stoppd supporting a bunch of stuff here included. A lot of western esports orgs are bleeding money with bad crypto sponsors and just generally paying too much for talent for no results.

>>56087848
its funny because bora went to vspo and still do collabs with nijijp normally.

>>56087848
>Former Hololive talents have all retained audiences better than Nijisanji,
Kek this isn't even remotely true, neither Coco nor Rushia have anywhere near the views they used to have, Mike's creeping up there but only because her new model is literally just Rushia.
And does NijiEN have anything to fear from an esports focused all female group?
The answer is no, they'll be nobodies and low 2 views.

>>56086547
you're looking at 2021 with the lens of 2023 anon
Even back in 2021, VShojo was the hot new thin in the west after Hololive, Nijisanji only had a few dedicated supporters - same as VSPO today.
NijiEN grew the mindshare of nijisanji in the west on their own before crashing all that obviously

>>56087848
Retard. He's saying that holofags are married to the brand and could care less when a graduated girl reincarnates and he's right, you fags still hold a candle for fucking Sana, a nobody that did nothing of note.

>>56089333
no anon, im here in vtubing since 2016 and nijisanji already had more mindshare than vspo. no one who isnt a jp viewer knows vspo. i watch both and vspo is much smaller in mindshare in the west than nijijp was

>>56089766
> nijisanji already had more mindshare than vspo
> 2016
IN JAPAN dude
not in the west

>>56062842
VSPO management is hands down retarded for exposure. You need to be an approbed clipper to upload videos of the talents or they copyright strike the shit out of you. That is the reason why they have so little presence in the EN side.
>>56065077
>>56070053
The only parameter thay I have to judge Selen against the JP girls is the Vsaikyo. And I would say the top of VSPO is way ahead of Selen and the bottom is similar to her.

>>56078665
I think they really like the idea of playing a named character with lore and all that stuff, even R6S was the go-to tac shooter before valorant took over.

>>56062665
Only if VSPO bots the EN debuts like the JP branch did for their 3D debuts, they are literally who tier in the west.

>>56064515
Qpi is not really a VSPO original, she was from another agency that disolved in less than 6 months. She become indie conserved her model and later then joined VSPO.

>>56062725
Shouldn't the talent pool actually be larger in the Anglosphere? Asians are notoriously prone to motion-sickness so the West has dominated the competitive FPS scene since its inception.

>>56090699
I forgot about their clipping policy and also their lewds policy. This shit is gonna be a struggle for the EN branch unless they explode out of the gate.

>>56076849
>focus on JP ESL women
Getting into VSOPJP is very competitive, there may be a few JP that might use EN auditions to circumvent that problem

>>56063399
https://audition.vspo.jp/en/

>>56084598
>vsaikyo and jp tournaments because she was a niji member right
Niji was just a door for connections, she still only got to Vsaikyo because she networked with holostars
and because Axel vouched for Selen she is now always invited to ShibuHal customs

>>56062725
There are tons of small gamer girls on twitch. And a couple of popular ones too.

>>56089228
>NijiEN have anything to fear from an esports focused all female group?
you literally put word for wrod why nijiEN(thegirls) should fear VSPOEN
>GIRLS THAT ARE (maybe) GOOD AT GAMES
Nijien biggest curse is having all these girls playing the same garbage and the only reoccurring one of these with any semblance of creative/skill expression is Minecraft
Fuck chilla's art, Fuck nintenshit, Fuck coop horror kusoge

>>56097060
>apex addict
>publicly talk about how much you want to play in vsaikyo
>no one ever invites you
>your fellow EOP branch mate who barely even plays apex gets invited to play in vsaikyo by a jp senpai before you
>finally get a pity invite from a tempiss homo (he literally said he decided to invite Selen after seeing her talk on stream about how it was a dream of hers to play in vsaikyo) who has to fight with Hal over Selen's point cost so that she can be allowed to participate
>put on an all time most catastrophic performance during the actual tournament, placing in the bottom 3 by individual performance and basically griefing your team
>immediately ditch the homos and hop on the esports cock carousel that you got into through your vsaikyo connections
>spend the rest of your days playing with apex pros off stream and having menhera meltdowns
Honestly Selen is so pathetic

>>56097218
>There are tons of small gamer girls on twitch. And a couple of popular ones too.
Are they cute in the Japanese sense of the word and good at fps? Because both qualities are needed.

>>56100726
The thing is, even her fanbase more or less agrees with this assessment of her recent behavior, they wish she went back to how she was in the early days of NijiEN. They just hide it all in their general and act like nothing is wrong in threads like this in order to try and make her look good, somehow.

>>56097218
>There are tons of small gamer girls on twitch
Would any of them be interested?

>>56097497
Playing Apex and Valorant all daty is boring anon.

>>56062665
>specifically about esports content
I don't really see VSPO as competing with any other agencies because they're targeting a wholly separate market

>>56100726
>>your fellow EOP branch mate who barely even plays apex gets invited to play in vsaikyo by a jp senpai before you
Reimu? She at least speaks Jap so she could communicate unlike Selen who always needed a 3rd to translate during her fucking APEX 2434 kill challenge she dropped. She should've kept up with learning Jap instead of dropping it multiple times then she wouldn't have some of these problems.
Alban came out of nowhere and fucking embarrassed her going from EOP to basically fluent in less than a year while she whined to chat about how she didn't understand "desu"

>>56082020
>I don't know how this myth was created.
fear is the motivation

>>56062665
Is that real or projection? I checked their website and I don't see that. Sources say they are the 3rd biggest vtuber agency after kurosanji and hololive interesting. If they do something like that I just want more authentic latina's (Spaniards are not latino/a's), no more white girls unless they are hardcore idol lovers like Kiara and Pomu, and can actually speak Japanese.

>>56062665
Is that real or projection? I checked their website and I don't see that. Sources say they are the 3rd biggest vtuber agency after kurosanji and hololive interesting. If they do something like that I just want more authentic latina's (Spaniards are not latino/a's), no more white girls unless they are hardcore idol lovers like Kiara and Pomu, and can actually speak Japanese.

I forgot to add, they got a bilibili channel too so.....

>>56105939
I don't think Selen gives a shit about learning Japanese. I see fucking RPR learning to communicate in Japanese every clip I see about VSPO and it's sad seeing Selen just smiling in ignorance.

ok but qrd on the corp? they a black company like niji or are they better than that?

>>56112933
VSPO isn't a black company, but they were bought by one (Brave Group). They retained existing management apparently, but who knows how EN will be managed.

>>56113689
thankyou anon, i was looking at maybe applying to them for a while but wanted to get a rundown on them

>>56087848
D E L U S I O N A L

>>56083110
Reimu has stopped playing apex almost altogether and only picks it up if other members inside and out want to play it. I'm not sure about Kotoka but Maria is probably the only active apex player but I don't know how well she plays since she streams between 9 pm to 3 am in the morning for me.

>>56105939
Alban really progressed that much? impressive. Wonder what he did

>>56062665
who?

>>56072997
>>56073796
LMAO, comparing with 2021 Phase when they were unknown (about 2 months after Gen1 debuted even).

>>56127824
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t89Uc5Lamck

>>56131105
Ok, lets look at 2022-2023 Phase-
>bump tweets all at 3 digits

>>56066834
>This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds

>Last time this thread was up an anon tilted off his axis over the idea of Fauna and Ame leaving
You just know they're so delusional they'll refuse to watch them in their new bodies purely out of spite and also because not a Cover blue dorito chip

>>56092119
I'm no genius but they probably can't pull a Meloco this time, or even a Pomu/Enna where they lied about playing APEX and being good at it. It seems like for VSPO EN that they're actually trying to make sure that these people either have accomplishments or at the very least can semi-competently play vidya compared to the average woman.

>>56133309
sapling here, why would fauna leave hololive? she genuinely seems to love working there

>>56133621
If she were to unironically drop heavy investment into "pro" gaming, a la Selen, Towa, Aqua, etc., VSPO would have for her an actual roster of gamer girls, instead of Kiara, Mori, and others who try not to care too much about comp gaming

>>56064532
its zhang, vspo will totally destroy themselves with this, I dun see how it will work when one of their girls said taiwan no 1 on stream b4

>>56092119
>very competitive
>the last 2 hires are poached and recruited
Lol. The Vshojo way

>>56133886
yeah she could if she wanted to go down the esports route but she doesn't want to do that, even recently she said she wants to stream games that she thinks are more enjoyable and that allow her to interact with her audience better and that's why she hasn't streamed dota yet and will only do so for a collab

>>56134226
In the case of Bora, the company offered her freedom from being a Nijislave.

>>56134388
it wouldn't surprise me if the company does the same to a certain dragon.

>>56136362
oh bro for SURE
They did it to coco, to aloe, to chris, to mel especially (literally asking her to shut the fuck up about being molested on site by a coworker and superior), to Pekora (her manager shitting on her big plans)
Cover is just as black as Brave or Anycolor, they just have a psyop group that tries to rub that shit stain out of the sheets

>>56118552
His reps

>>56100726
Grim. No wonder Axel doesn't play with her now

>>56105939
RPR too. Grats to Alban, can't believe there's a Niji who'd do his reps

>>56118552
Literally when he wasn't streaming he did reps. Minimum of 6 hours daily. He started from basic weeb EOP to conversationally fluent in about 8 months. Selen is bilingual and has an advantage by being a native Cantonese speaker(maybe she can't read it idk)

>>56062725
>western girls can't play video games
yeah, sure

>>56134388
And they will do that for ENs?

>>56063444
They already hired Hinano 3 years ago.

>>56063444
Imagine thinking that none of the VSPO girls are menhera

>>56136362
They bought fucking Met and she straight out said she would have quit vtubing if the deal wasn't going well. That's a 5 viewer, the only 5 viewer in 774. If they think Selen and her name is worth it they will buy her or do a Tsuna way.

>>56142039
Good point

>>56138769
Alban's improvement was crazy, you could see it in clips

>>56143192
Noah...

>>56062665
Niji would need to stop shooting itself in the face long enough to be scared first

>>56136362
If they do, it would be a big sign to see if theyre serious of not

>>56143430
Why would niji sell? And no you've seen they dont care about their reputation even lesss if its niji en related

>>56142039
Hinano can at least sing

>>56062665
The only corpo Niji talents should be scared of is Anycolor

>>56155153
And the ccp

>>56155072
It's sell or get nothing. The chuba will just not renew their contract, stop for 7 months and reapear as a new one on VSPO. Do you think 774 wanted to let go of their golden goose?

>>56066638
this, the EN vtuber scene is pretty lacking for professional level players. there's nothing wrong with them looking outside though, one of the members of the gen V&U recently debuted was a female former TF2 pro player that also has some casting experience and was a really good pick.

>>56062892
>brown gyaru starts going off about 'POC representation in vtubing' and other american racialist shit on her DEBUT
>drop her immediately and don't even bother with the pink one

>>56062665
nah, they already lost, but holo sure as hell should get their talents to start streaming regularly

Scared of what? This is an Esports focused group, most EN indies applying can't even play Undertale without being shit at it, you think they can actually do E-sports?

>>56136975
lol, the classic Kurisanji move. Trying to bring everybody to their level. Actually there is a talent in Holo from Brave group and he only has prises from them compared to their old job.

>>56160662
>>56066638
>>56160309
See
>>56082020

>>56136975
>Cover is just as black as Brave or Anycolor
lol
>They did it to coco
Nice victim blaminig. The chink would give you credit scores if they could
>Aloe
She leaked the thingie. As clear cut as it can get.
>Chris
it's been, what, 5y since. Let it go, jesas. Cover has become a completely different company since.
>Pekora
I'll give you the Mel thing, but LOL. Imagine equting "Mel being stalked" to "Pekora's plnes being squashd".
And whatever happened, 2023 is Pekora's biggest year so far. She's not complaining.

>>56136975
>Cover is just as black as Brave or Anycolor
classic nijicope

>>56064515
>quarter resolution shadows with visible artifacting
one job

>>56066200
Is THAT why Valkyrie Chronicles barely has any good fanart in spite of its age?

>>56163222
>And whatever happened, 2023 is Pekora's biggest year so far. She's not complaining.
Pekora's biggest year is seeing Marine becoming more and more unreachable shrinking speck ahead of her...