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Please don't die before bump limit edition

What is /asp/?
/asp/ is a thread for vtubers to give and receive advice related to vtubing.

>Should I stream on Twitch or YouTube?
Most people would recommend against streaming on YouTube if you don't have an established subscriber base from making videos.

>Is there an audience for X?
Would you watch someone do X?
Is someone already doing X?

>What video editor should I use for editing clips?
DaVinci Resolve if you don't feel like spending money, otherwise use Vegas Pro.

Open company auditions:
V&U (ending Aug 17): https://twitter.com/VNUofficial/status/1688373561482993664 (embed) (embed)
Yume+ (ending Aug 25): https://twitter.com/YumePlusEN/status/1683884706192928771
IdolES (ending Aug 31): https://www.idol-company.com/auditiones
IdolEN (ending Sep 6): https://www.idol-company.com/auditionen
Brave: https://bravegroup.co.jp/audition_en/
Hololive (Open indefinitely): https://audition.hololivepro.com/en

Useful links:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
Op-Sec: https://mauthedoog.medium.com/21-privacy-tips-vtubers-need-to-know-ce93082cd166
Twitter growth: https://controlc.com/9eba2fbc
What to avoid: https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt

Previous thread: >>55952741

>> No.55991804

this one's definitely dying as well

>> No.55991842

>>55991749
Homosexual hands typed that post

>> No.55991948

A pre-debut /here/tuber got doxxed in /ppg/ yesterday as someone who has been posting about Nia Suzune in the threads for over a year. What are the chances he's posted in /asp/ too?

>> No.55991969

I want the gyaru bug girl's tiddy in my mouth
RIGHT NOW

>> No.55992027

>>55991842
If you're referring to the pic related, you are a pedo.

>> No.55992103

>>55991948
how did he even got found out

>> No.55992113

>>55992027
Don't out yourself as a terminally on twitter faggot that infantizes non-obese women under the age of 35 so early in the thread you homo

>> No.55992117

>>55991948
Explain. What did they do that lead to them being doxxed?

>> No.55992198

>>55992113
Whatever helps you cope anon

>> No.55992380

I want to kiss the heckhound

>> No.55992508

I peed in the shower and came back to another thread I must've pissed it out

>> No.55992591

>>55992103
>>55992117
He was known as Niaschizo, a poster who would frequently write out highly detailed paragraphs about specific ways he would torture/murder Nia, but admitted several times he actually liked her. Someone saw him in her Twitter comments posting about how he missed her (she's been on a break) with a goslinging gif and it lined up just minutes from the same time he posted on /ppg/ about missing her and "almost outing himself on twitter".
One anon went even further and found him interacting with someone who referred to him by his past life name, and recognized him as a user who has been active in Nia's stream chat for years. Another (or maybe the same) anon then suggested searching his old name on the archive, where rrats were posted over a year ago about him being Nia's boyfriend, along with Pipkin Pippa's boyfriend, along with a few posts about him flirting with peoples oshis. It was also revealed that he follows Vesper on Twitter. Nia fans are now on high alert, as there seems to be a historical likelihood that he is all but guaranteed to have sex with their oshi.

>> No.55992849
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55992849

Small request to whomever bakes the christmas thread: Please use this as the OP

>> No.55993028

If there wasn't constant drama, what would /asp/ talk about?

>> No.55993034

>>55992849
Hate that I get the context behind this picture.

>> No.55993214

>>55993028
>What mic should I use?
>Should I stream on Twitch or YouTube?
>Live2D or 3D?
>[Insert aspie] SEX
>What video editor should I use?
>Should I add a mask to my design?
>What do you guys think about my voice?
And other non-drama timeloops

>> No.55993763

>>55992591
>all but guaranteed to have sex with their oshi.
Good for him. Hate the whore, not the playa.

In all seriousness, /asp/ cycles through schizos a lot, so even if he did set camp here at one point, no one would've known/cared enough.

>> No.55993788

>>55993214
>>What mic should I use?
AT2020
>Should I stream on Twitch or YouTube?
If you have solo content on YouTube, YouTube. If you don't, Twitch.
>Live2D or 3D?
L2D.
>[Insert aspie] SEX
Yes.
>What video editor should I use?
Premiere Pro.
>Should I add a mask to my design?
What?
>What do you guys think about my voice?
Probably annoying.

>> No.55993885

They all have boyfriends, but that's never stopped a girl before, so stop getting demoralized.

>> No.55993998

>>55984589
>Mukuro
You miss a depressed ngmi babi? Everyone else is still around, just watch or talk to them.
Also >YUROS DO YOUR JOB

>> No.55994754

>>55993788
what's a good entry-level dynamic mic?

>> No.55994933

>>55994754
The AT2020. I'm not joking when I say it is unironically the single best value microphone in existence.

>> No.55995467

>>55992591
This site's autism scares me sometimes

>> No.55995605

>>55994933
it's a cheap condenser mic but I don't like it, give me a recommendation for a good and affordable dynamic mic

>> No.55995907

>>55993214
>What mic should I use?
A Yeti is fine, Twitch and YouTube will compress the shit out of your audio anyway
>Should I stream on Twitch or YouTube?
Twitch, unless you want to do prerecorded content too
>Live2D or 3D?
Live2D if you can find one for under 1K for both art and rigging, otherwise 3D
>[Insert aspie] SEX
Indeed
>What video editor should I use?
Vegas Pro
>Should I add a mask to my design?
No, covering up your mouth makes your design less expressive
>What do you guys think about my voice?
Post Vocaroo

>> No.55995946

>>55995605
Why do you want a dynamic mic? Are you streaming from the inside of a live firing range?

>> No.55996026

>>55995605
Behringer XM8500. Absolute best for entry level.

>> No.55996575

>>55996026
impressively cheap, any requirements for the audio interface?

>> No.55996752

>>55996575
As long as you have an XLR input you're good to go.

>> No.55997565

>>55991749
As a lolicon, I disagree with OP.

>> No.55999639

>>55993028
The thread would die and it would be for the best

>> No.55999836

bump

>> No.56000304

>>55993028
The drama is manufactured and stale. You can tell because it's literally the same thread to thread and how it mentions people who haven't even selfposted in months.

If you can get past worthless drama then aspies can spend time discussing developing their personas, their content and their stream presentation. There's a lot of neat stuff I've just never bothered bringing to the thread because it would feel casting pearls before swine when thr thread seems intent to engage with/ wvt and /trash/ schizos or larp as home grown.

>> No.56000448

I feel like playing a RPG on stream would it be better if I clammed up during like story moments

>> No.56000656

>>56000448
I don't think you necessarily have to clam up, but you should definitely turn your commentary down a notch. Unless you actually don't care about the story, but at that point you may as well just skip it then, no?

>> No.56000671

>>55994933
will any non-dirt-cheap interface do? i feel like i'm doing something wrong with my scarlett solo

>> No.56000738

>>56000448
There is an art to "priming silence. It's perfectly normal to be silent during cutscenes with VA (less if they don't) but you have to let the viewers know that you're doing it. "Oh hey its a cutscene" or "oh what's happening here?" It let's the audience know you're engaged and that they should watch along with you without just being "alright I'm turning this movie on and getting a snack"

>> No.56000760

I have a crush on someone from /asp/

>> No.56000782

>>56000760
Its me, I know.

>> No.56000792

>>56000671
What do you mean? I probably wouldn't get the Scarlett solo if I could go back in time but it should still do you fine

>> No.56000872

>>56000671
My interface is ~$50 USD.

>> No.56000908

Who's the least attractive aspie male?
Who's the most attractive?
Who's the most crazy?

>> No.56000955

>>56000908
Kuromaru
Kuromaru
Kuromaru

>> No.56000957

>>56000792
What interface do you recommend anon.

>> No.56001002

>>56000792
what's wrong with the scarlett solo?
>>56000872
oh damn that's less than half of the price of the scarlett, how's it serving you?

>> No.56001019

>>56000671
If all you're doing is talking on stream then you don't need a top shelf interface. If you plan to do music or a lot of high dynamic audio content then I'd invest in a better interface.

>> No.56001047

>>56001002
Does fine. Very limited in what it can do, but it's fine.

>> No.56002023

>>56000957
Well not the scarlett solo because that's the one I have and I am not 100% happy with it
If I had to buy another it would one with enough clean gain and two XLR input, keeping in mind that you can definitely buy audio interfaces second hand

>>56001002
>what's wrong with the scarlett solo?
Nothing, it's budgeted, that's all

>> No.56002323

>>56000671
Think of it like music, a good rest can be powerful for your next part.

>> No.56002374

>>56002323
ment to respond to
>>56000448

>> No.56002982

>>56002023
>two XLR input
why

>> No.56002985
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56002985

>find a 1 view streamer
>female avatar with massive tits
>say hi
>male voice
I HATE IT, STOP LYING TO ME. WHY DO THEY ALWAYS DO THIS!?

>> No.56002998

>>56000908
He's crazy because motherfucker keeps arguing with people in twitter. He's usually not wrong, but you have to have some screws loose if you're willing to do that

>> No.56003009

I'm dating a fellow asp. Cucking viewers lights a fire under me.

>> No.56003052

>>56003009
It's me. Now bend over, faggot.

>> No.56003067

>>56002985
Blud was gearing up to rizz some virtual bitches and found a ladyboy instead. Get fucked!

>> No.56003193

>>56003067
not even a ladyboy, full-blown bloke. Fucking William from the pub.

>> No.56003213

>>56002985
It's destiny. You like men now, hahahaha

>> No.56003301

Any advice on balancing a design between being visually interesting but also just looking like some guy?
Also what do you look for in a vtuber costume, as a viewer?
(male btw, so don't just say tits)

>> No.56003347

>>56003301
tits

>> No.56003405

>>56003347
I'm gonna do something drastic

>> No.56003437

>>56003301
Huge tits

>> No.56003546

>>56003437
This

>> No.56003611

>>56003546
>>56003437
I honestly should've just kept my big mouth shut.

>> No.56003765

>>56002982
So I don't have to unplug to switch between mics and a stupid joke where I would get two of the same mic and use that as a budget binaural mic

>> No.56003778

>>56003301
you need an element that'll immediately stand out. a certain type of hat, a weird streak in your hair, a pair of glasses that are an odd color. what it is will depend on your design as a whole, but you gotta treat realistic character design as finding the right 10% to make it unique.

Even outside of vtubing, let's look at anime for a second. Ash's hat is iconic. Digimon is at least partially defined by having every MC wear goggles. There's more to them than that but the point is you need one single element for people to grasp onto.

>> No.56003900

>>56003301
Don't overload the design and make it too overcomplicated; you have to find a happy medium with enough details so it won't look boring, but not too much that it looks crowded. I forgot where I heard it from (I watch too many character design tutorials) but you could try to visualize your character as a newborn, then gradually age up your character to where you want it to be. So for example, if your character was autistic about trains (or whatever else you like) as a child, or had braces, then you could add small details like that to the adult design and keep your lore in mind. I would say as a viewer I look for vtubers that have unique concepts, but not overly unique where it looks like a mary sue/gary stu abomination. A middle ground is always nice, something that's not done too much (i.e anime catgirl) but also not something that nobody would every think of in a million years.

>> No.56004192

I want to rim Denpa's asshole

>> No.56005068

>>56003301
Guys look less faggy with less accessories, start from having a nice silhouette and you should be able to count the number of clothing and accessories you have on two hands.

>> No.56005206

>>55994754
I've been using the Samson Q2U. I'd suggest getting a mic arm for it as well if you do.
It has a USB connection and an XLR connection. If you don't have any mixer with an XLR connection, I'd suggest getting a program like voicemod to make your voice sound nicer, to go along with it.

>> No.56006252

I like streaming I like talking to my chatters.

>> No.56006405

>>56006252
I like talking to you too

>> No.56007085

i love lava

>> No.56007435

Where do I find bgm?
I'm looking for a new track to play during the start of stream and another for the talking screen.

>> No.56007531

>>56007085
I don't remember posting this

>> No.56007841

>>56007085
>>56007531
>those are the people telling you vtubers are not GFE and that they don't care if they have a bf

>> No.56008161

>>56007841
you don't love you little sister? damn your family must been rough

>> No.56008239

>>56007841
i never claimed any of those things, stop putting words in my mouth

>> No.56008469

>>56008239
I'll put something else in your mouth then

>> No.56008511

Is posting my link here a bad idea?

>> No.56008541

>>56008161
I'd fuck my sister if I had one, just for the record

>> No.56008678

>>56008511
not really, also it's not that useful outside of possibly getting some initial viewers

>> No.56008847

i wish i had an older brother...

>> No.56009006

>>56008847
I'll be your older brother (sister (male))

>> No.56009122

>>56008847
I have 28 years of experience as an older brother if you want one

>> No.56009241

>>56008511
I can say I only benefited from posting my link. I got a few viewers I wouldn’t have and I got opportunities to connect with other VTubers in a way I couldn’t before. Ofc that was from posting tons of links here, but I’d say I recommend it. Hell, look at hamster boy who shot up real fast. I was kinda wary of schizos joining my chat, but I genuinely have not gotten a single one. I say do it.

>> No.56009776

>>56008847
I don't want a whore to be my little sister.

>> No.56010028

>>56009241
Hamster inclining had nothing to do with posting links here. Dude won the raid gacha.

Still, no harm posting links. Good for asking feedback.

>> No.56010567

>>56010028
He's friends with the guy who raided him

>> No.56010719

>>56010567
That's even worse.

>> No.56010833

>>56010567
>>56010719
aspies giving advice
>network with others
>BUT DON'T YOU DARE TO NETWORK WITH YOUR FRIENDS IF THEY ARE BIGGER THAN YOU THATS CHEATING!!!
stop crabbing

>> No.56010835

>>56010719
lmao

>> No.56010863

>>56009241
Hamster boy had connections.
Don't look at him as a way to incline if you're a nobody with no connections.

>> No.56010887

>>56010719
who fucking cares it's not like he isn't interacting with /asp/ies or acting like a bigshot because he's got a popular friend

>> No.56010930

>>56010719
Pretty convinced this guy is trolling at this point

>> No.56011054

>>56010863
True, but then it’s a good opportunity to get connections if you don’t have any

>> No.56011163

I feel miserable, nothing I ever do amounts to anything, only reason I haven't graduated is because my only friends are other chuubas and I feel they wouldn't consider me a friend if I was just a viewer

>> No.56011619

>>56011163
If you talk to them on discord and stuff, I’m sure they’d still consider you a friend. It may be a bit harder to make new friends with VTubers, but I’m sure your friends would stay with you even if you’re not a VTuber.

>> No.56011765

>>56011619 (You)
Also you don’t need to make a huge impact. If what you care most for is your friends, then just relax and have fun with VTubing. If you’re not relying on it for income, don’t stress about it.

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Csz0PRKbfSSJOhh4JBjvsJQ7EnyrUb1t7-VfBuwSips/edit#gid=0

>> No.56012043

>>56011054
>leeching

>> No.56012124

This place is now forever poisoned.
The hamster is going to be used as a weapon to brow beat 0view /asp/ies when they're not happy with their growth. They'll point to a man with a 500 ccv friend and tell them that this is the norm for successful networking. You wanna talk about crab behavior? Well this is the epitome of it.

>> No.56012130

>>56011163
>>56011619
>I’m sure they’d still consider you a friend
Dead wrong, I've seen vtubers graduate to viewers and those "friendships" you've made as a vtuber don't last if you're not a tool that can be used for networking

>> No.56012197

>>56012124
Wait for him to stream a third time to see how many he managed to pull before talking out of your ass like that first, damn

>> No.56012454

>>56012197
let the crab throw a fit about how "it shoulda been meeeeeeeeee" in peace, it's all he knows how to do

>> No.56012473

>>56012197
I have a feeling his third stream will coincide with the other guy and he'll get raided again.

>> No.56012576

>>56012124
>500ccv
It's even bigger than that

>> No.56012600

>>56012043
>bait

>> No.56012801

>>56011619
They'll sometimes tune in whenever I manage to stream but we rarely have private conversations, we've also collabed
>>56012130
I don't think I'm being used to farm viewers, I've always had worse numbers than my collab partners and the few viewers I pull in are all aspies anyway

>> No.56012803

>>56012576
Good

>> No.56012926

>>56012473
I dont think the guy will raid him that quickly again, but he'll probably get raided again sometime in the future.

>> No.56012953

>>56005068
>Undershirt
>Hoodie
>Earring
>Facial tattoo
>Cat ears
>Horns
>Halo
>Tail
>Night vision goggles
Phew. Made it.

>> No.56012974

This guy did nothing but have a connection and everyone hates his guts. He's not even an asshole and he's been in /asp/ie chats since debuting

>> No.56013030

Amy GFE chuubas here?

>> No.56013045

>>56012953
Sounds fruity to me not gonna lie

>> No.56013099

>>56012974
>everyone
it's one guy seething and malding

>> No.56013120

>>56012197
It would be retarded to expect him to have 100 viewers again. His next stream will be low 2view (between 10-30 CCV), which is a lot more than people who've been streaming for months here have got. It's around the same level people who've been selling out and shilling themselves in ads have, except he gets to keep his integrity.
Just face it, you can't compete with him.

>> No.56013147

I have to use a file compressor for every fucking image I save off of clip studio AAAA

>> No.56013151

>>56012953
>earring
Ok homo

>> No.56013184

>>56012974
>everyone
See this is how you retards turn one crab into a running problem

>> No.56013231

>>56013120
This is also bait btw

>> No.56013240

Anybody that brings outside viewers into the /asp/ ecosystem/network is good in my book. It might be weird to look at it like this, but /asp/ and here-tubers in general could be looked at as some sort of a large and very loosely organized corp at this point. So many of it's viewers are shared between many of it's members. While it does take time for these viewers to spread among the different streamers, it will happen and be good for basically everyone.

You guys really need to pound this into your head, in streaming the best thing that can happen to you (next to making it for yourself) is for your friends to make it. Make and maintain lots of friends and connections and we can all grow together.

>> No.56013320

>>56013231
It's not bait if its true.
You guys can't compete with him, so don't compare.
He's GMI and is on track because of his connections.

>> No.56013370

He's going all out

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56013427

I bought an image placement for the furry text sex game I'm going to be playing on youtube tonight

Hope to see you there in 7 hours :D
https://youtube.com/live/f_-KE50hIZ8

>> No.56013430

>>56013240
>he thinks the hamster boy viewers are gonna watch him too
kek
they're only watching him because of his friend

>> No.56013536

>>56013427
Graphic design is my passion

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56013892

>>56013536
I have limited art I'm working with my man

>> No.56013968

>>55992591
So basically don't be a schizo and this won't happen to me, got it.

>> No.56013983

>>56013045
yes?

>> No.56014006

>>56013892
I dont mean this in a mean way but your character looks like it has down syndrome

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56014174

>>56014006
thanks I'm trying to rep the retard community

>> No.56014251

>>56013536
Just saying I'm seeing 100%red papyrus, some kind of art-deco/history-channel-core and comic sans (or one of its siblings) in the same image and it's activating something deep inside me.

>> No.56015575

>>56013240
I must say, I did raid "outsiders" occasionally, but usually these are still people I either like or appreciate. I am usually trying to offload my viewers usually to another aspie most of the time. Aspies being cool guys usually definitely helps tho

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>>56013427
Chad move!

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56016404

new chuuba sketch

>> No.56016435

>>56016404
I'm getting alva vibes

>> No.56016456

>>56016404
wannabe alva

>> No.56016621

>>55991749
Previous previous thread
55883738

>> No.56016755

KeitaroCh > SunAlbionis
KeitaroCh > Alva_the_Lordling
KeitaroCh > FuzaKeruNah
KeitaroCh > GClefCannon
KeitaroCh > MoMoMoVT
KeitaroCh > LagoMofu

>> No.56016773

I'm a 2view that has lurked ASP since before I started and will forever. Not 100% sure what's going on with the current discourse but based on this thread - ya'll have to remember that the objective of streaming is to attract new viewers outside of your current friend group. Streaming to the aspies, all sharing viewers, its not sustainable. There's not enough viewers for that to be a reliable viewerbase.

You should always raid "outsiders" unless there's a pretty good reason. That's how you make new connections, friends, and grow your viewer pool.

>> No.56016887

>>56016773
And you're still just a 2view? Pathetic

>> No.56017020

>>56016887
I've never posted my channel on this website. Maybe I should, become Queen of the aspies.

>> No.56017236

>>56017020
There's already an aspie queen.

>> No.56017255

Is it just me or are escorts getting pricier? Maybe I should start grooming a chuuba girlfriend

>> No.56017260

>>56013983
yep!

>> No.56017273

>>56017236
Does she have a penis? I do.

>> No.56017636

>>56017255
groom me pls

>> No.56018249

>>56016404
sending alva

>> No.56019040

>>56016404
Gween tea

>> No.56019068

>>56016773
>non-aspie
>wants us to only raid other non-aspies
Checks out.

>> No.56019111

Reminder that Haru is NOT your friend and if you are in this community he will NOT support you. His raid proves that.

>> No.56019176

i want to hug gween, she seems really soft

>> No.56019372

>>56019111
You're right, he's not my friend he's my boyfriend

>> No.56019401

>>56017273
Pretty sure Haru has a dick, so I don't know what you're getting at there.

>> No.56019613

>>56017636
Go to bed you're drunk again

>> No.56019670

>>56019401
Keitaro and Haru, king and queen of /asp/.

>> No.56020087

What's Haru's channel name? I wish to view

>> No.56020145

>>56016755
Just you wait, I'm gonna hit up all the 1k strimmers I know. Next month I'll be getting a BIG raid an ENORMOUS raid, a GIGANTIC one, COLLOSAL man. Absolutely TITANIC... Hehehe... And then? Then I too will be a 2-view with 10 views every second stream. I'm GMI I can feel it

>> No.56020385

>>56020145
>Then I too will be a 2-view with 10 views every second stream.
You are SEETHING over the hamster, its pathetic.

>> No.56020522

>>56020087
we will not share the dog with strangers, stop trying to steal him from us

>> No.56020526

>>56020087
He's mine, I won't share

>> No.56020666

>>56020522
>hasn't streamed in 2 months

???

I've been mutuals with this dog since the Destiny days lmfao. Seethe nerds

>> No.56020706

its funny seeing you 1views and 2views trying to act all distant and professional and shit

>> No.56020754

>>56020385
I am pathetic alright. Pathetically gonna make it that is. I'll call you guys when I've made it, chilling in my jacuzzi with my little chuber sister on the left side and the queen of /asp/ on the right. Heck, maybe I'll raid you even with my 12 followers. Feel free to drop me a link.

>> No.56020798

>>56020666
He was live on Friday dumbass

>> No.56021433
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56021433

muppet gunpla stream
https://www.twitch.tv/savvyavenue

>> No.56021475

>>56020706
You wouldn't get it

>> No.56022030

Does gap moe exist for men?

>> No.56022115

>>56022030
Alphonse Elric is the epitome of gap moe.

>> No.56022287

>>56022115
I love Alphonse! I included his human form as a reference image for the artist I'm commissioning to draw my model.

>> No.56022413

Should I bother posting on Instagram? I already feel like cancer from posting on Tiktok but I don't know if either even help to get new viewers.

>> No.56022417

>>56021433
Nigga stop reading the thread on-stream.

>> No.56022509

>>56022413
Is there a big vtuber fanbase on instagram?

>> No.56022523

>>56022417
? What did he say?

>> No.56023089

>>56016773
You've been here this long and you still take bait? Amazing.

>> No.56023280

I'm feeling very depressed. My audition video for EIEN was viewed only for two minutes. The one I sent for Kawaii got nearly a minute instead. What's making them close the video? What did I do wrong? I'm never going to make it...

>> No.56023554

>>56023280
look at those first minutes and see if they are worth watching, if you don't hook them at the very beginning they have no reason to continue watching

>> No.56023556

>>56023280
I don't expect you to put it anywhere to be seen, but can you give a rough description of what was in the video around the points when they stopped watching?

>> No.56023740

>>56023280
Real question: Why are you applying to eien?

>> No.56023898

Is there anything more pathetic than a male vtuber? Who do you appeal to? You're not cute, you're not entertaining, no one wants to hang out with you. Girls are cute, girls are entertaining, we want to hang out with girls. If you're a male reading this I suggest you kys.

>> No.56024026

>>56022417
Why not? It's not like he has viewers

>> No.56024076

>>56023740
Why shouldn't I?

>>56023556
Sorry. I don't want to risk getting blacklisted. I am doing what >>56023554 suggested before I submit my Idol application though. I just feel miserable right now.

>> No.56024291

>>56024076
It's just that everything I hear about them makes them sound like a huge mess. I just don't know why you would apply for them over the others in the OP.

>> No.56024481

>>56000760
lots of people have a crush on lava, its fine

>> No.56024647

>>56008847
you know where to find me, kiddo.

>> No.56024817

>>56024076
Idol watched my video all the way through despite them saying they probably wouldn't watch most views 100% but it hasn't gotten any views since I sent it. I'm gonna take that as meaning I was entertaining but my lack of streaming experience disqualifies me lol
>inb4 why did u even send it if u dont have the required exp
Just wanted to shoot my shot, and it was some nice experience gained.

>> No.56024876

>>56019040
cawfee

>> No.56025085

>>56021433
Kankuro is already doing better than this guy, in like half the time.

>> No.56025231

>>56024076
Fair enough. Just make sure that you don't get discouraged if things don't shake out favorably for you. If you're aiming to go Corpo, make sure that you're improving some facet of your craft so that you'll be even more capable when you take a stab at the next round of auditions.

>> No.56025392

>>56025085
Most of gen 4 are

>> No.56025459

>>56025085
Get all the dolls, puppets, muppets, into a cage and have them fight to death.
Like that jar where the asians throw in a bunch of poisonous insects until only one is left

>> No.56025584

>>56025459
>Like that jar where the asians throw in a bunch of poisonous insects until only one is left
Is that on youtube?

>> No.56026713

>>56025584
It's east asian mythology, I don't think that's how it works in real life
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodoku
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu_(poison)

>> No.56028069
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Kankuro here!
We're going to stream random games in 30 minutes(it's not going to be JUST Risk of Rain I promise : - ()

https://www.twitch.tv/kankurokingch

>> No.56028257

>>56028069
very cute drawing of a cute puppet

>> No.56028846

>>56023280
Don't forget they probably get thousands of submissions. You gotta realize they most likely look for any reason to click out of a submission video, even if the reason is that they're kinda hungry and feel like ending it short so they can get a snack. It doesn't mean you're bad, just that dozens of people ahead of you won the gacha. Just keep streaming, improving, and resubmitting.

>> No.56029085

>>56028069
He has more viewers than savvy

>> No.56029533

>>56000908
I'm the craziest because I'll never scream for 10 streams in a row then have an actual meltdown playing a game i don't even care about

>> No.56029556
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56029556

>>56029085
I unironically look up to Savvy a lot, he has a great voice and a good idea with the Muppet theme.
I know you're trolling to get a rise out of people, but streaming isn't a zero sum game. Be kind.

>> No.56029811
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56029811

Every single /asp/ie is a goal to surpass. Like steps on a staircase, I will overtake each and every one of you one by one.

>> No.56030097

>>56024817
Idol also watched mine entirely and hasn't been back since, but it's still fairly early on in their auditions. Maybe they're watching as many as they can thoroughly? How long was your video?

>> No.56030353

>>56029556
>look up to a dramafag
thats disappointing Kankuro

>> No.56030403
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56030403

Who is the hungriest /asp/ie?
Who is the best cook? At cooking?

>> No.56030455

>>56029811
I'll never admit it to their face but it makes me happy when I surpass someone in followers.
I keep track of who is the next closest one and make it a goal to pass them.

>> No.56031117

>>56030403
I claim the title of hungriest aspie. I think I'm an okay cook but there are almost definitely better.

>> No.56031851

Why would anyone want to be a corpo for anything other than hololive?

>nijisanji is a black company
>basically all other companies are literal whos which can't offer someone anything they couldn't do themselves

>> No.56032233

>>56031851
Holobrony brainrot

>> No.56032472

>>56029811
But no climb is steady, anon, so, after you step on me, it's *my* turn to step on you, then you step on me again, and I step on you again, and we keep stepping on each other until one of us cums and submits to the other.

>> No.56032547

>>56032233
I only watch Indies, I literally cannot understand why anybody would throw their whole career in with a no-name company or a company that is going to milk you. Hololive has the brand name to catapult any worthwhile talent to their rightful place and the resources and connections to keep them there.

>> No.56032654

>>56031851
>holomales are doomed to irrelevancy and to always live under the shadow of the girls
>niji is a black company but males have a chance to rise to the top
>every other company either does not hire males or is too so small that it would probably be more beneficial to stay indie
Males have it rough

>> No.56032820

>>56031851
I'm assuming you live under a rock because idol corp and vshojo are massive and pretty much the current realistic targets to apply to since hololive's standards are so high you pretty much need to be an IRL idol to apply anymore.

>> No.56033640

>>56030353
OBSESSED

>> No.56034335

>>56032820
NTA, but really, is Hololive that intense? Also VShojo only really poaches ex-corpos or really big indies, they rarely open auditions either. Phase Connect is getting pretty big nowadays too, they even have an official Mahjong Soul collab.

>> No.56034769

>>56034335
You at the very least need to be able to sing, dance, do mocap and travel to japan both for mocapping and for lessons. It's driven some talents insane. Yes, they are that bad. The talents that put up with it are hardcore and deserve respect. People constantly go "where is [rando holo]!? do they not like streaming anymore!?" no its because they're in japan being treated like a puppet.
I aspire to be a vtuber but jesus christ I will never want to be a hololiver. I love the talents and the managers are good but they simply have massive expectations, expectations none of us could reasonably fulfill. And if you think you can fulfill them, then by all means, keep apply. Remember fuwamoco had to apply several times before getting in, and they're the biggest thing to happen to hololive.

>> No.56035403

>>56032654
Males should aspire to be signed by Mythic

>> No.56035801

>>56034335
Not at all. You either need actual talent or numbers but not both. Kobo got hired with absolutely no online presence through pure talent. They gambled on a 0view with no prior experience and it paid off since she's now ID's best performer. There are also people like Ina and Sana who were really only good at art that managed to get in. If you have real talent in anything that can entertain an audience, you can most certainly be chosen for holo. You just have to still be better than 99.9% of everyone else that applied.

>> No.56035957

>>56035801
I like to think that Ame's also a pretty good indicator of someone who's anyone that applied and got in and look where she's at now

>> No.56036106

I aspire to have impressionable female fans following me like big youtubers have

>> No.56037065

>>56036106
>I aspire to have impressionable female fans following me like big youtubers have
Groomerchama...

>> No.56037210

I aspire to have one person call me their oshi!!

>> No.56037388

I aspire to infiltrate my Oshi's social circle and become acquainted with my Oshi so I can groom my Oshi!!!

>> No.56037571

I aspire to make a friend

>> No.56037772
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56037772

I... am a man!

>> No.56037838

I aspire for a bigger blacker dick

>> No.56038140

I aspire to get over my brain rot and learn to formulate and speak coherent sentences without sounding like a total retard despite having a perfect grasp of complicated English whenever I read literature.

>> No.56038535

>>56037571
I'll be your friend!

>> No.56038584

>>56038140
Sun...

>> No.56038791

I aspire to use vtubing to escape being a turd worlder

>> No.56038811

>>56037838
Well open wide

>> No.56038965

>>56035403
name me one good reason to apply to mythic and ill do it (i do not know who they are)

>> No.56039354

>>56013427
>>56013892
White background on a black website... One image, plaintext. Atleast get some butterfly clipart and make the background grey so you don't murder those poor coomer's eyes.

Based tho

>> No.56039431

I apsire to be a little better each day.

>> No.56039479

>>56038965
Pink cat good

>> No.56039631

Flamboyant catboy vtuber here, I have no model and barely a concept. It's nice to make your nya-quaintance!

>> No.56039812
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56039812

We study the blade more with Sekiro!
https://www.twitch.tv/berialryuuta

>> No.56040030

>>56034769
>I have to WORK?
>fuck that, I'd rather play videogames all day!

>> No.56040526

>>56039479
nyanners...?

>> No.56040634

>>56034769
Of course duermo I had to apply several times, they had NO twins in the previous waves. So they probably commissioned twins in hopes they’d apply again.

>> No.56040756

>>56002998
Not sure who you're talking about

>> No.56040786

>>56039812
If I was a Gen 3 and still posting here, I’d kill myself.

>> No.56040787

>>56034769
You don't need to sing and dance. You need some relevant talent and can't coast on just being a gamer or streamer. Training and mocap are normal requirements and even reasons to join Hololive, because as a vtuber that aspires to push the medium you ought to be excited that you have access to their studio. The main issue is that they don't cover any audition expenses, including travel. Otherwise, people that hate travel are just weirdos that should probably decide to do something where they can just be a shutin. Other corpos focus more on only streaming and especially variety game streaming.

>> No.56040790

>>56038965
Not him, but they seem to mainly focus on doing the boring parts for you without getting in the way otherwise, there isn't really a sense of corporate unity though, if you look at the list of talents most haven't interacted with each other, Shylily is there but most of the chuubas she hangs out with are not. For a male example, have Nux and False even collabed?

>> No.56040893

>>56040786
Most of gen 3 is still here, we just anonpost

>> No.56040947

Patiently waiting for the big YIIK update so I can potentially torment myself on stream for 5 or 6 sessions.

>> No.56041395

>>56040790
nux is in mythic, i think I'll pass then. i would not be feeling comfortable anywhere near him. i don't hate him or anything but i don't think I'd ever get along, even if you say they don't have unity

>> No.56041547

>>56040893
I meant still self promoting here and having terrible numbers.
I know even Gen 1 still lurks (Elliott).

>> No.56041559

>>56040786
t. a Gen3 crab

>> No.56041674

>>56040786
why does gen 3 hate gen 3 so much

what happened to solidarity forever

>> No.56041802

>>56040786
i think the fact that people in this thread keep telling us to kill ourselves ironically inspires me to keep living funny enough

>> No.56041818

>>56041674
Karaoke happened

>> No.56042160

>>56041395
https://www.mythictalent.com/mythic-talent-vtuber-creators
Anon, all the people who left VShojo are there and they don't interact with him, if they can avoid him you could too. Don't be like that girl with the pig avatar that said she didn't want to be in a corpo because of the "inherent GFE"

>> No.56042304

>>56041547
But overall you should never let those kinds of thoughts manifest or bother you. It doesn't matter what you do or how things are going as long as you're still progressing. Sometimes people are called successful but then plateau at a hundred ccv for five years. Sometimes someone suddenly blows up after years. Sometimes someone is spammed to popularity at the start and then keeps losing viewers with ever stream. If you're going to be ashamed every time numbers suggest something negative and then feel like you should die, then maybe content creation isn't for you. Focus on the content that matters to you and you will always be successful.

>> No.56042442

>>56041674
i love everyone from gen3 still. and im happy to see they are still going and some of them growing. even if we never got along much or if things just didn't align I'll remember every single one of them and cherish their character. they got me through a hard part of my life and even if it's harder now and they are distant, i still feel their presence. i don't want to give up as long as they are alive and well.

some of them are my friends, some of them might be enemies but they are my gen mates and I'll love them forever.

>> No.56042653

My mama is starting to send a lot of sketches & we're doing back & forth feedback.
I really like how it's coming together! Still up in the air over some designs like some rings, but think it'll be in final design stage soon!

>> No.56042896

>>56041818
as a karaokefag, it pains me that there have been no karaoke since then, I despise karaokeschizo from the bottom of my heart

>> No.56042974

>>56041802
spite the haters, anon, live a good life.

>> No.56043057

>>56042896
what happened with karaoke?

>> No.56043073

>>56040893
Name and shame sister.

>> No.56043088

>>56042896
Do you really want some fag to poorly sing Gas Gas Gas over and over every month?

>> No.56043227

>>56043088
This poster here is a complete homosexual.
As long as you sing with SOVL, there is no wrong way to sing GAS GAS GAS(capitalize motherfucker)

>> No.56043457

>>56042160
I think I'd be a bad fit overall and I think they wouldn't recruit 0views especially males. also i don't think they are actively looking anyways. I'll keep it in mind when I do my next audition videos though.

>> No.56043663

>>56043057
>jinxcord is made for /asp/ies to flee from the retardation that was /asp/ and yellow cat
>some time after its creation a karaoke night is arranged to break the ice
>lots of people sing
>some took it too seriously that they started shittalking others because they couldn't sing, had horrible music selection or got mad over how many pachis they got over their performance
>brown dog sings at the last moment and kinda fumbles a bit
>everyone enjoys his singing
>one /asp/ie takes it personally and bitches about brown dog causing a meltdown on the thread that lasted a few days

>> No.56043790
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56043790

I miss gen 3, I wish they made it

>> No.56043846

>>56043457
They're not really a corpo but a management firm, so by design they won't take people with low CCV because they don't benefit as much from management. You don't audition in the traditional vtuber sense of filling out a questionaire and making an audition video, you fill a contact form with a link to your at least decently successful channel, and if they see you as a good fit they'll take you in

>> No.56043941

>>56043790
I hope kaiser at least enjoyed lala that one night.
Fucker took her from me.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME

>> No.56044311

>>56043846
that's the vibe ive gotten, no real point in applying then. there's enough other options, i only do it because i enjoy making these videos anyways

>> No.56044340

>>56042160
tbf there probably isn't as much bad blood between them as people seem to think, considering the nux drama was mainly brought on by management fucking up several disparate things all at once.

>> No.56044531

>>56043790
Looking back I'm a little disappointed how Ain handled it. She stopped streaming because she got a boyfriend and went on and on about how she needs to graduate to stay faithful to her unicorn beliefs. It was mostly just a cover to reincarnate quietly without /asp/.

>> No.56044602

>>56043941
anon she's still streaming and probably still single what are you waiting for

>> No.56044624

>>56043790
Two of them went to that doomed AI project. Not sure if they're still doing that or if they quit.

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>Unity events

>> No.56044827

>>56044624
Doomed AI project?

>> No.56044971

>>56044827
Pippa made an AI vtuber "corpo", some people volunteered and among the volunteers were aspies

>> No.56045057

>>56044624
>>56044827
ain stopped streaming in favor of touching grass because she became too unhinged for herself. probably on her bloomer arc.

lala still streams as stella, I think she got like 15ccv last time i tuned in. check /fvr/. i think kaiser tried to stream there too but got bullied out for being a sexpest

>> No.56045168

>>56013427
hope to see ya

>> No.56045496

>>56042442
Surprisingly wholesome

>> No.56045689

>>56044531
Deku stealth reincarnated too. This thread really fucks with some people's heads

>> No.56046017

>>56044827
>>56044971
>>56045057
I had a look at the /fvr/ thread and links, but it looks like all but a small handful of the people involved with that moved on. The few that remain seem to try to be rebranding to dissociate with FlaVR entirely.

>> No.56046280

>>56046017
it was never meant to last and i guess it at least birthed a couple of chuubas that otherwise might not have done it so I'd say it did more good than harm. i personally think lala and ain had more to lose by switching but i feel like there might have been other reasons (i think both stopped streaming way before the projects inception)

>> No.56046313

>>56042304
Id be ashamed if I got surpassed by hamster boy in 2 stream, after working on my twitch for 2 years.

>> No.56046356

>>56041674
Fuck you all, I know what you've done and you know what happened

>> No.56046395

>>56046017
The value of FlaVR was the association with Pippa, she clearly got bored of it, there's no reason to stay

>> No.56046460

Is it bad if my concept is something that a popular Vtuber or corporate Vtuber already has? For example, I want to be a lich, but will I be called a Froot ripoff, shark and Gura, etc.

>> No.56046558

>>56042442
How come Gen 1-2 are close, and Gen 4 are also close, but Gen 3 has terrible relations.

>> No.56046748

>>56043663
who is brown dog?

>> No.56046779

>>56046558
because these relations are made up by this thread just like the gens

>> No.56046841

>>56046748
not much, hbu?

>> No.56046961

>>56043663
>flee from [ ] yellow cat
jinx let yellow cat run rampant in there right up until he annoyed that one /lig/ ASMR chuuba

>> No.56046986

>>56046460
Most people understand concepts can be used by more than one person, you may get one ofr two retards shitting on you but you can just ignore them and move on, people will try to drag you down even when you're at rock bottom

>> No.56047030

>>56046748
korone

>> No.56047049

>>56046460
as long as you take the concept in a different route aesthetically you should be fine. I think there're definitely other shark chuubas, and lich characters are popular enough in media overall that you're safe.

>> No.56047052

>>56046558
Gen 3 has too many polarizing figures

>> No.56047116

>>56044531
and then she joined the fake FLAVR corpo, which was a fad, and quit when she didnt blow up like she hope she would.

>> No.56047227

>>56047052
>am currently the most well liked and commonly networked with gen 3 among /asp/ these days

Guess who I am.

>> No.56047234

>>56046986
>>56047049
Thank you both! I appreciate it!

>> No.56047257

Can't believe 4 of you idiots fell for the FlaVR meme. gen 3 deserved to fall apart

>> No.56047271

>>56046558
as far as i can tell, a lot of them either split to their own smaller circles separate from the thread (cordycord), stayed in visagecord, moved to lancecord, or split off to other /wvt/ adjacent groups

>> No.56047329

Is this Ain reincarnating again?
https://www.twitch.tv/savehymn

>> No.56047414

>>56047227
Not Juniper, thats for sure.

>> No.56047433

what's the average cost of a live2D

>> No.56047493

>>56047433
Your soul

>> No.56047553

>>56047433
just make it yourself bro

>> No.56047572

>>56047433
For a good model? $400 at the least. Add $200 if you want below average but serviceable rigging.

>> No.56047642

>>56046460
Froot annoys me for using "lich", because in every fucking piece of media it's a bone dude while she's just a basic succubus...

>> No.56047742

>>56047642
expectations subverted!

>> No.56047889

>>56047642
thats good tho, makes you stand out and not look stereotypical

>> No.56048057

The first 2 gens lucked out.
No Gen 3, Gen 4, Gen 5 and whatever is gonna come out after will ever have the level of unity, friendship, love, support, and most importantly, success (as a group) than them:
https://www.twitch.tv/lonestarcolt

Still streaming together to THIS day, because they are actually friends.

>> No.56048285

>>56047329
Her voice doesn't sound like her besides being a deep voiced female

>> No.56048557

>>56047257
Stop talking about it as if everyone is in a team. Whatever someone does all the more power to them, if they want to pursue other things that's up to them. It's thread schizos like you that drive these narratives and got involved with /fvr/ trying to force it here too.

>> No.56048922

>>56044602
That's right, she only had sex with Kaiser as friends, they're not in a relationship
No wonder she stopped trying to be an idol after the IRL meetup, whore

>> No.56048996

>>56047257
I don't give a fuck about FlaVR as a meme corpo and I actively dislike Pippa but I'll gladly watch any of them that I find interesting the same as I would for any other random small indie. The fact that one of the ones I watch is a reincarnated /asp/ie doesn't affect that in any way.

>> No.56049002

vtubers?

>> No.56049046

I edited my first clip today!

>> No.56049083

how does one maintain a voice for long periods of time? I'm great at doing different voices but I'm not sure about maintaining them for hours

>> No.56049098

>>56048922
im pretty sure his dick was just too small

>> No.56049119

>>56049083
Rest, hot liquids in moderation, minimal caffeine

>> No.56049230

>>56049083
my vtuber voice is just mine pitched up a bit

>> No.56049395

>>56049098
You'd be surprised, I saw the pictures

>> No.56049456

>>56048996
was Sena one? shes the only Flavr peep worth watching

>> No.56049553

>>56049395
no way a babi has anything more than a micropenis.

>> No.56049590

>>56049083
Honey tea, honey coats your chords, tea for the caffeine

>> No.56049791

>>56049553
I've also seen it, it's pretty sizable

>> No.56050038

>>56024817
>>56030097
is idol hiring males? Otherwise idc

>> No.56050222

>>56049553
All the babis I know are hung

>> No.56050464

>>56049456
All of the ones made by their thread were ex-/asp/ies

>> No.56050545

I aspire to never have to interact with women ever again

>> No.56050549

>>56050464
that's factually not true but this has gone from an actual discussion to shitflinging at this point
>>56049456
no

>> No.56050567

>>56050222
>>56049791
it's fucking over, only saving grace is that he's too homosexual or that he'll kill himself soon because of his menhera

>> No.56050772

>>56043663
>>56043057
What do you fucking expect?
She commented on every person who sang except me.

Once I can accept as coincidence, but twice? I'm not sure what I did to her to deserve that, I don't think I've even talked to her before.
Don't say she wasn't there either, she was there and active after my first song, and so I know for a fact she saw the other two. Don't bullshit me. Whatever I did to her I'm sorry, but she can go fuck herself if she wants to fuck around like that and be all passive-aggressive. I handle my problems straight up to people's faces and tell them what's what, although I hardly do have problems with people because they don't tend to start this kind of shit with me. This is bullshit. Again, I didn't do anything to her, so why is she like this?

>> No.56050823

>>56050772
Im not reading all that

>> No.56050907

>>56050038
Both the Spanish and English auditions listed in the OP say the classic "All Idol characters are female but applicants of all genders are welcome to apply" so in other words no. It's worth noting that the spanish audition form mentions being able to do a female voice, so they may take a chance on trannies

>> No.56050975

>>56050772
lol

>> No.56051052

>>56050772
holy fuck it's the exact karaokeschizo pasta

>> No.56051085

>>56050907
About what I expected, was tempted to apply for manager but I'd rather be indie. TY for the TL:DR

>> No.56051115

Someone post the recording

>> No.56051174

>>56050545
same oomfie

>> No.56051180

Are there people who think you can be hired as a manager at a vtuber corpo with no entertainment management experience?

>> No.56051235

>>56050545
Based

>>56050772
Good times, and timeloops are real because it reads just like that outburst herahera had

>> No.56051542

>>56051180
I don't know, but there are plenty of anons that try to LARP as managers or as if they have special insight into what is good for entertainment. Some try to go with that fake clover corp or /fvr/ or maybe they start their own indie corpo with no resources. Unfortunately most people involved in the vtuber scene aren't serious people.

>> No.56051570

>>56051180
I ran a team of Modders. Ez Talent Management experience. Sorry you are so bad at stretching your resume

>> No.56051788

>>56051570
True bro! I put DnD on my resume too!

>> No.56051974

>>56051788
I have unironically done this and gotten hired

>> No.56051996
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56051996

Late-Night Tekken! We're on more Lucky Chloe silliness! Maybe even trying a new character! Come cheer me on as we dance on our enemies!
https://www.twitch.tv/SlushyWater52

>> No.56052002

>>56051939
>>56051939
>>56051939
new bread

>> No.56052253

>>56046313
Dude I've gotten surpassed by the entirety of Gens 1-5 in less streams than it took me to get a single channel to affiliate. Hamster's success doesn't bother me, hell good on him for it. I've already sulked in the shadows of guys from gens 1-4, just gotta keep truckin along.

>> No.56054200

>>56031851
No valid corpo is going to hire me so I'm exclusively staying indie lmao. Maybe one of these days we will have a decent male corpo but... I kinda doubt that

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