/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Only EOP live here

This is an EOP board.

>>55739847
>>55739929
This. Also I want holoX to stay as far away from the Catalog as possible. I don't want to share the same oshi as most of the filth that frequents it

>>55739729
Too much EOP

>>55739729
I like Chloe and Koyori, La+ is sometimes okay, Iroha is foregtable and Luis model is to ugly for me.

Hollox didn't do as well as expected.

>>55740093
This seems to be the way a lot of other people feel, though Lui has her dedicated fans.

The stinky orca succubus are pretty good at draining money, Koyori is always streaming. Go to /#/ if you want the latest yab for La+. Lui need to have sex with me. Gozaru just existing I guess?

>>55739729
4chan is a minority
Twitter is where it's at

>>55740098
La+ kinda ruined it with her hiatus, she was supposed to be the leader.

>>55739729
Koyori was the only good thing. People thought the orca was gonna replace Rushia but she don't come even close. Lui is boring as shit. The samurai girl seem to be pretty successful with nips despite being even more boring than Lui. Laflop is a piece of shit.

>>55740365
Koyori seems like a hidden gem which is ironic since she streams more than literally everyone. Her design is also pure sex.

>>55739729
Vtubing reached its peak hype with Holo Myth so every gen after them feels underwhelming

>>55739729
They seem really popular in Japan, but I feel like the Algo doesnt push JP vtuber clips like it used to.

>>55740630
Including Holo Myth today

>>55740630
Advent disproves this. They're ushering in a new golden age.

>>55740365
You don't understand Japanese

>>55740805
It's not even that. These are al talking points that this board pushes. He's a literal threadreader

>>55740174
>Go to /#/ if you want the latest yab for La+.
You mean the people who thought her first "real yab" was playing with blue homo? They don't know shit.

>>55740174
>Go to /#/ if you want the latest yab for La+
Why does this bitch seem to always have something going on compared to other JP members?

>>55739729
Iroha and Chloe were flops. Laplus and Lui are liked even among EOPs, and Koyori is surprisingly popular among JPs for some reason.

All the commonplace and mundane,
we shall cut down with one swing of our blade!
Oh, you poor souls lost in an eternal cycle,
we welcome you with open wings.

We are the rightful rulers of Eden's planet!
Secret Society HoloX! ...de gozaru!

There wasn't much of a group at the beginning, especially with La+ flaking out. The other girls pretty much did their own thing and its worked out for them. Its why most people refer to the individual girls more than HoloX itself. Cover seems to be the one that pushes them as a group more than anyone else.

>>55740093
Lui model ugly da fuck

>>55739729
There's not much to work with when the board is filled with EOPs and maritime-africans.
Being a popular chuuba who isn't talked about on /vt/ is a good thing

>>55739729
Koyori with short hair is why I look like Gandhi right now. Every ounce of liquid left my body from COOMING so hard.

>>55741081
Doesn't seem surprising at all.
>Pink Lamy
>Sex model
>Lewd onee-san vibes with a cute voice
>hag

La+ fucked it up big time. I'm surprised cover kept her on. She started off so strong, but it was just a cash grab, and she immediately backstabbed cover. Her role was to bring holoX together as the leader and plan a bunch of collabs, but she was pretty much absent her whole first year because she would rather play with eceleb s*yb*ys. Although I guess they didn't have great synergy to begin with, but imagine if someone like Marine had debuted in La+'s place. She would have made holoX a real competitor and found a way to make everyone's personalities bounce off each other.
In short, aside from Chloe it was kind of a flop. Koyo's got heart, but lacks a certain something for mass appeal. Gozaru and Lui aren't memorable.

>>55740365
>>55739729
koyori is unquestionably the most successful, but lui is well loved by other holomembers, so will be in plenty of collabs and concerts, which counts as success

>>55741065
menhera

>>55739729
Lui outside of collabs is one of the most boring holos
Laplus is hololive cancer
Iroha is good but kinda forgettable and a bit retarded
Chloe is good
Koyori is good but her charisma is on the lower side(at least compared with others holos)

It really says something when this is better than Council...

>>55741065
Anon, she's the only holo who got a "break" for months because "mental health", she's more menhera than Matsuri

>>55741658

>>55740093
Have you come out to your parents yet?

>>55742061
> no sexy Lui attached
It's her fucking hair, those wings ruin it for me.

>>55741658
Following what you said:
>Lui=Sana
>Laplus=Kronii
>Iroha=Mumei
>Chole=Fauna
>Koyori=Bae

The JP hags conviced la+ to dial down being a whore, so there hasn't been any yabs surrounding the gen for some time.

Nijinigger cope thread

>>55742152

>>55739729
They're more successful than 99.99% of all vtubers. That's a massive flop in my eyes. Cover should fire every single one of them immediately.

>>55741065
She's a complete screwball fuck up, however, you watch her perform on stage and immediately it's like, "yeah, all that baggage is worth it"

>>55742219
You have no fucking idea what you're talking about and are just talking out of your ass.

>>55742258
a different angle??!

>>55742283
Just fire Laplap for trying to funnel hololive fans to her personal channel for like a whole year. And calling them incels after they heard her boyfriend on stream or whatever and again when she got herpes.
Seriously, she's probably lost more money for hololive than she's made for them.

>>55740724
I think people just haven’t been clipping them as much since holoEN. A lot of the channels I used to watch are now dead, and the ones that survived are staying true to their pre-Myth oshi (so not clipping holoX)

>>55741081
Chloe was the first to 1 million subs

>>55742452
Clippers are actually so awful now it's unreal.

>>55739729
if /vt/ isn't talking about you, you're doing just fine

>>55741065
The Mori of JP

>>55743008
when's laplus's album coming out?

La+ antics killed the gen. They all have strong points and issues, but couldn't live up to the massive hype because of it.
Still not a flop, but for all the shilling they got, HoloX doesn't feel different than the other gens.

>>55740070
Then who and where do you discuss your oshi with on the internet?

>mfw /thread

Does anyone have a coherent summary of what Laplus actually did? Half the posts slagging her here are vague & general about it like it's some obvious gigayab everyone already knows whilst the half actually referring to specific things read like the standard schizo hyperbole /vt/ whips up over nothingburgers.

From what I can piece together she took a hiatus and talked to a MALE! So she's clearly the antichrist.

>>55739729
Lui is falling into the Mel category of being loved by all the other Holomembers but the fans hating or disinterested in her.

>>55745004
Well, what do you think it is? /vt/ being schizo or anything else

>>55743008
Mori is way better than Laplus, Laplus doesn't do anything good, her kusogaki kayfabe is trash and even Kobo is better at that, Shion then completely annihilate her, her game choices is fps, fps already is boring to watch if someone isn't super good or funny and yet she chooses the worst fps, she constantly go in breaks and don't go to gen collabs, even the anniversary she didn't went and was playing fps with a guy, she regularly has "serious talk" with the viewers, she doesn't care about hololive and barely collabs outside of advertising and company wide collabs, and several others things, Mori in her peak lean arc wasn't as bad as that

>>55745004
Just two weeks ago she indirectly shited on every holo over 27 years old

>>55745094
>but the fans hating or disinterested in her.
Is Lui simply too old and corporate? Which is a terrible combination I imagine.

>>55740630
The only good thing about Myth is Gura.

>>55741770
>the only holo who got a "break" for months because "mental health"
I mean, isn't this unironically what Haachama is in the midst of right now?

>>55745004
She said she would nevet play around with men but was then caught doing that.
She also said to not yesman for her and denand a proper apology if she fucks up. When she fucked up, she refused to apologize.
She played valorant all night into the morning with some friends and then didn't show up to the holoX 3D anniversary stream the same day. She played some more valorant after that stream.
I get the feeling that you've already decided she can do no wrong.

Isn't HoloX relatively succesful compared to most of the other HoloJP gens? Is this just a case of expecting every new gen to reach Sankisei levels, which is impossible.

>>55746252
More successful than Gen 1, 5
Less successful than Gen 2, 3
Gen 4 is arguable.

Lap+ broke the last straw when she got “internet problem ” during subaru’s collab.
Screw this bitch seriously

>>55741307
Koyori is way more successful than Chloe although those two are undeniably the most successful ones. Lui has been doing great as of late, she has found her niche although number wise she’s gonna be like Flare. Iroha is also doing great recently and she gets invited to concerts and gets along with a lot of holomems (the other day she went to Subaru’s house to hand her some home made cookies). Honestly if the gen debuted with only those four it would have been way more successful. Laplus is such a failure is not even funny. She’s by far the worst thing to happen to hololive with a hire to this date.

>>55739729
americans need subtitles to understand english spoken from different states than their own and you really think these mf could learn Japanese and watch streams ???

>>55740093
>lui's model is ugly
you're a faggot

>>55742431
She brings in good money just for the fact she’s in hololive. Although she taints the brand tremendously.
Branding your talents as idols while you’ve got this narcissistic zoomer who larps as an otaku for money, disrespect her fans, her senpais, drags down with her shit her entire gen and who’s only there to grab some cash while chasing e-celeb dick is not exactly what you would want for your brand. Of course you have to trust the talents who actually care but her presence alone makes everything worse.

>>55745868
So basically she didn't do anything wrong. It's just the voices in your head.

>>55741658
>Iroha is a bit retarded
>a bit
anon...

>>55746824
Body is fire, face could use some work

>>55745868
I liked her 4th Fes performance and think unicorn shit is tiresome, that's about it in terms of personal bias.
By the sounds of it there is no one big thing she did wrong, but a lot of little annoyances that've stacked up and made her the default scapegoat. Which is fair enough I guess; she IS an abrasive kusogaki. That's her entire appeal. So even if she's doing a good job at her niche, it'd just piss off people who aren't into the shtick.

>>55746344
So at the very worst it's a 'middle of the road' Gen? That's pretty good in my opinion. I don't know what people expect when Cover has already attracted all of the top tier NND talents for their previous gens.

>>55747070
She’s not a kusogaki, she’s a shitty person. She’s not an actress and she’s not playing a character.
And as the other anon said you just decided she cannot do anything wrong so it doesn’t make sense to tell you what she did. It’s not even about male collabs: she constantly disregards hololive and it’s clearly there only to get easy money and clout to go on parties with ecelebs, get covid and then infect the rest of holomems. She doesn’t even respect nor care about her senpais, let alone her fans.
But again, that’s not bad at all and she’s a “kusogaki”.

Did >we forget about L chan failed "Idol group" ?

>>55745004
I don't give a shit about unicorn shit, the issue is that she's a lazy, entitled brat.
Look at the recent karaoke relay:
>doesn't bother preparing properly
>10 minutes late (for a 30 minutes long stream) and had to slap a png anyway
>sings three songs (pretty great singing too)
>ends early (???)
>doesn't raid the next one
I get that if you like her, her attitude isn't such a problem. But she keeps screwing her co-workers that way, especially her genmates.

>>55747321
Gonna level with you.
I just don't see any of these as bad things worth anti-ing someone over. Apart from the Covid part maybe, when'd that happen & who'd she infect?
Otherwise... it's a job? IDK what to tell you mate. I don't take such things personally. The only Holo girls I'd consider call shitty people were CN Gen2, for actively trying to hurt their peers.

>>55747070
Yeah nah you've been in these discussions before and used this exact same garbage "argument".

it's just this place full of EOPs

>Laplus never streams, collabs with males
>Lui is completely boring outside of collabs
>Chloe pandered hard to kaigai bros and then proceeded to stream nothing but EOP repellent content
>Iroha is just boring
Koyori is the only one that's still good desu

>>55747321
Your vendetta of hating her and trying to get others to hate her is very obvious. No matter what you want to believe she does play a character, not to mention all of the various holos recounting how polite she acts behind the scenes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4RWTOcQJxM
>>55747796
Her part of the relay was certainly scuffed, and she could've tested things beforehand admittedly. I assume she wasn't expecting her camera to break again, and that ended up causing the delay as well as the PNG backup. She felt bad about the poor performance during the relay, so she plans to do another singing stream to try and make up for it when she feels better. She did raid someone but it was the wrong person though, she redirected to Azki
https://youtu.be/nxj2PuuoAIM?t=12222

>>55747070
Shion do the same kusogaki shit and it's 10 times better even with depresshion

Can anyone explain how did chloe got popular?

>>55741081
You consider Chloe a flop but not Lacuck? Well don't leave us in suspense I really want to see your mathematical proof.

>>55739729
>was holoX a flop
lmfao not even close
>/vt/ barely discusses them
Well no shit because this board only discusses le heckin yaberinos instead of the fun stuff holox does. Of all gens, I feel HoloX has the absolute best bond for collabs.

>>55748508
>cute
>retarded
>sex design
>good voice
>ponders to you
At least in the debut those are the things that made her stand out

>>55747796
That's fair. FTR I didn't mean to imply in >>55747070 that's it's all an act either, she had the menhara break so clearly isn't the epitome of stability IRL. Just that the model matches her personality and that she clearly leans into instead of away from her bad habits. If you're not entertained by that and avoid her, I can understand how frustrating that must be when she breaks containment in collabs.

>>55741065
There isn't

You just have dumb fucks who make mountains out of molehills.

>>55748453
How do you excuse her playing valo all night and skipping a gen anniversary as le kusogaki character but then say she is actually a great and kind person off stream when both of these things are behind the scenes actions and one of them is objectively shitty.

>>55748623
Gen chemistry isn't everything, gen 2 barely collabs yet every individual member(besides Ayame) is way better than holox

>>55745399
NTA, but that’s physical health reasons

>>55748471
Eh, she gives me a different vibe. Feels more like a mesugaki.

>>55748704
Damn, she getting caught red handed on fucking 5ch and getting months of "mental health" break is all making mountains out of molehills

>>55748508
cute and dumb and her rigging is incredibly good

>>55748508
She's very talkative, her interests are fucking great, and she plays a variety of games. Chloe also is great for collabs while being smart. Her Polka collab is something i'd recommend btw. She takes a lot of pointers from Marine and Subaru.

>if catalogniggers arent spamming anti threads they're a flop
Only on /vt/

>>55748758
I thought she was on her MH break during the HoloX anniversary.
Did I get my dates mixed up? Was she streaming valo as La+ or is this one of those Steam history things?

>>55748508
Took off the mask.
Seriously after that debut stream it was no wonder she'd be the breakout. Cover knew they had a perfect storm of traits in her.

>>55748758
I believe the hiatus was already set in stone, but due to it being the first HoloX anniversary Cover didn't know how to handle it properly. Hence the last minute notice as a way to garner as much viewers as possible

>>55740093
>Luis model is to ugly
Jesus hell gay anon, get a hang on yourself

>>55749225
I dropped her because I wanted her to keep the mask on.

"ehhh anon are you gonna order the hamburg steak?"

>>55749225
Her never wearing the mask is the worst thing about Chloe. A lot of girls would kill for such a fun gimmick, and she squandered it.

>>55748898
But if she’s such a terrible person, wouldn’t she have been talking shit on 4-chan? She didn’t write a single bad thing.

>>55749438
Let's not forget the other thing she squandered that would've been great

>>55739729
lol this is an EOP board, sir. Go to 5ch or sth

>>55749093
It was announced the next day because she skipped that stream.

>>55749260
You're just making up shit because you do not even follow Laplus or hololive. Why are you even here?

>>55749438
Tell me you never watch her karaoke streams without saying so.

>>55749574
Who are these mysterious anonymous girls?

>>55749324
>>55749438
FTR I meant the reveal itself. It is a VERY cute face, but that was hyper-accentuated by hiding it in the pre-debut materials. It allowed an initial gap-moe groundswell to form.
Her voice/actions in the debut stream built that up to a fever pitch, climaxing in the unmasking. Masterfully executed marketing IMO.

>>55748898
What'd 5ch find?

>>55749561
I'm not basing that on nothing anon. She was streaming more consistently before her menhera posting 2-3 weeks before her actual anniversary. After she started going menhera, her stream output started to significantly slow down and she started cancelling streams. She eventually streamed before her anniversary to announce it, and throughout the announcement stream she was clearly out of it. Afterwards she started drifting away from social media on all accounts. The only time she actually posted from there on out was to thank people for her anniversary and to say that she'll be taking a break a week before the HoloX anniversary to try and get better. Anything else that she tweeted was more than likely by her manager based on the copy pasta nature and the times they were posted.

>>55749876
You are basing it on nothing, retard.
Your entire argument is that it was unimaginably difficult for Cover to tweet out and inform everyone else that she is going on a hiatus BEFORE the stream took place when they do that shit all the time.
Thr truth is you will twist and turn every piece of info onto fitting this retarded master plan where cover all along intended to never inform anyone of her SET IN STONE hiatus.

>>55749527
inu is alive

>>55749484
>jap on 4chan
It would be easier to find a true unicorn(the animal)

>>55750349
I'm basing it on what I witnessed from start to finish, this was a gradual build up over the coarse of 5-6 weeks that ended up leading to her hiatus announcement. I expected her to have a menhera breakdown at some point, I just wish it didn't happen at the point in time it did. So you can continue to believe that she's evil incarnate, and I will continue to believe in what I believe. If she really did skip out on the anniversary, Cover would've properly suspended her for missing out on such an important event.

>>55748016
If hololive was just a job then not a single talent would stream ever since they make a ton more money by only shilling stuff, and if everyone were like that then hololive wouldn’t be what it is today.
Hololive has both a ton of members who feel for the company and fans who also do so so yeah, there are feelings involved and when your oshi is doing her absolute best with an insanely busy schedule and still manages to stream and fulfills her role as an idol and then you see this degenerate narcissistic zoomer tainting the effort of the people who made hololive possible then you’re gonna get a ton of fans’ bad side. It’s been almost two years since she joined and she has done absolutely zero for hololive outside of dragging her genmates and the brand down.
And as for the covid thing she got infected coincidentally after the rust streamer server with the ecelebs closed so it’s pretty obvious she went out with them to a party and got infected. A couple of dudes on the server got infected at the same time. Afterwards she infected like 5 holomems including miko.

>>55748453
Yeah, because holomems are gonna trash talk her publicly, retard. Holomems are professionals unlike her. They don’t shit on a fellow member, unlike her.
Marine passing on her for over a year is all I need to know who she is. She didn’t even invite her to the fashion streams she’s done and to this day still refers to her as laplus-san.
I don’t care if you are a cuckmate. Enjoy your narcissistic zoomer in your corner and keep her away from the rest of hololive, thank you very much.

>>55751509
Cool strawmen retard. No one said she is evil. She is just a selfish shitty person who chose to drop out of an inportant stream on a whim because valorant was more important.
Your retarded excuses for everything that happened make no fucking sense.

Koyori and Chloe are pure sex. Lui is good. Iroha could be good, but personally I'm not too interested in her content. Laplus is a massive disappointment.

Lappy is a cunt who shits on Hololive, her coworkers, and viewers. She should just fuck off and graduate back to her PL already.

>>55739729
anon, /vt/ is pretty much irrelevant as far as JP is concerned

No, they are popular

>>55740286
*X is where it's at

>>55751114
I meant 5chan, but my point still stands?

Why the fuck are there laplus schizos

>>55745222
>she regularly has "serious talk" with the viewers
This is one of the worst parts of vtubers. They have to have these 30 minute tangents in the middle of the stream about some minor shit that happened recently when simply direct and saying "You are causing issues. Stop acting retarded." would suffice.

>>55739729
No shit the Indonesian branch will be talked about more on /vt/. Most anons are seamonkeys

>>55739729
I see more posts about Lui than any of the indogs, well I don't visit their generals, so I'm probably biased, but holoX doesn't really have any unity desu, so it makes sense people would talk about individuals more than a group. I rarely see anything about Chloe and about La+ some boring tabs, people post about Iroha "I'm forgotten" type of posts. Koyori has her own general, I don't know anon.

>>55748508
>amazing model
>sings good
>talkative, expresses herself well and gets people interested by doing so
>quick witted, smart during collabs, bounces shit back and forward with good banter
>erokawaii gapmoe
>lots of pandering
>endearing menhera moments that trigger saviorfagging

Like Oga said, she's dangerous.

>>55755196
Why are you defending her behavior?

>>55744063
I don't need to discuss my oshi. She's my oshi. And I wanted to discuss her, the last place I'd come to is here.

>>55757482
I am not.

>>55749093
>Monster Hunter break

>>55739729
Lui is cute
Koyori and the samurai are BEYOND forgettable
Laplus literally has herpes
Chloe is a grifting whore

Everybody calling Iroha forgettable.... I will never forget her....

>>55758008
Catalogchan............

>>55758008
>Laplus literally has herpes
eh?

Orca replaced Rushia
Koyori streams a lot but isn't the most popular girl considering her stream hours
La+ disappeared for a long time and just became middling
Iroha is around sometimes

Holox had big expectations but they kind of petered out.

>>55740093
Lui doesn't use her sex model enough. Plus she lowkey a bitch.

>>55758008
>koyori is forgettable
LOOK AT THIS RETARD LMAO

>>55758223
I once genuinely forgot her name for several minutes, only remembering her as the gozaru girl.

>>55758311
She has cold sores, which is unironically referred as a STD by the "geniuses" of /vt/.

>>55758311
Oral Herpes led the schizos to thinking she has an STD

>>55758378
This has happened to me several times.Only with her, out of everyone in Hololive...

>>55751548
>tainting the effort of the people who made hololive possible
In what way?

>>55751814
>Marine passing on her for over a year is all I need to know who she is. She didn’t even invite her to the fashion streams she’s done and to this day still refers to her as laplus-san.
So that means Botan is also bad? Because they never collaborated one on one and Marine still call her Botan-san. Or Nene?

No

>>55758324
>Orca replaced Rushia
She is not even close to Rushia wtf

>>55761622
She is superior to Rushia and her fanbase is far superior to the fandead both in devotion and mental illness.

>>55757651
I honestly have nothing negative to say here. That's the proper mindset to have. Whoever your oshi is, enjoy her anon.