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>>55649862

>> No.55658891

>>55658684
she's starting to go through puberty

>> No.55658919

Ruffians are so fucking cringe

>> No.55658921

GRIM

>> No.55658928

17k DORYA despite the overlap

>> No.55658926

>17k
17k
>17k
17k

>> No.55658938

>>55658142
Farfa's latest stream, somewhere around the 3 hr mark. I was fucking shocked as well
It was this one btw
https://myfigurecollection.net/item/1624939
Also REALLY? NO ONE PREPARE AN OP?

>> No.55658940
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>> No.55658943

>>55658684
And Mococo is getting more rebellious

>> No.55658945

>fuwawa got a virus from her regular yobais

>> No.55658957

>Everyone want on the MGS train
Jesus we are looking at grim numbers simply because everyone will play it at the same time

>> No.55658964

>>55658919
Bau Bau

>> No.55658971
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>>55658919

>> No.55658972

>Fuwawa is a piratechad
Of course she is. I bet she got the Cross Days Virus.

>> No.55658977

>>55658921
why are kikeks like this?

>> No.55658991

>>55658919
Bau Bau???

>> No.55659000
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55659000

/#/ Place Your Bets
https://poal.me/7szqvi
https://poal.me/7szqvi
https://poal.me/7szqvi

>> No.55659007

>>55658940
BASED

>> No.55659012

Fuwawa isn't allowed to touch PC!

>> No.55659030

the closest predict was that anon who said 18k

>> No.55659031

>FWMC lost to FWMC
Absolutely mogged

>> No.55659034

>>55658919
BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU BAU

GET FILTERED GET FILTERED GET FIOLTERED GET FILTERED

>> No.55659036

They got the holo senpais' blessings to sing their songs

>> No.55659040

>17k
they would easily hit 20k if they actually streamed for longer than 30 mins.

>> No.55659045

>Miko: it's the age of YT shorts now

>> No.55659050
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>>55658919

>> No.55659062

>holo finally got MGS perms
There goes Pomu's niche, gone, reduced to atoms

>> No.55659069
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55659069

Chu~

>> No.55659075

>23k to 17k
is it over?

>> No.55659087
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55659087

FWM should make out

>> No.55659092

>>55658943
mococo developing communication skills other than un un

>> No.55659113

>>55658919
BAU BAU, BITCH

>> No.55659126

JP DUB > EN DUB

>> No.55659142

>>55658872
What's the TL;DR from Cover's financial report?

>> No.55659146

why did konami take away the perms to begin with?

>> No.55659148

>>55659045
Is she streaming? Where are you fact quoting her from?

>> No.55659154

JP dub

>> No.55659157

>>55658972
Was she the one with the plant fetish?

>> No.55659164
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>>55659092

>> No.55659167

>>55659142
Made some money

>> No.55659168

>>55659000
>40k
Who the fuck

>> No.55659169

>>55659031
Rock debuff

>> No.55659191

>>55659075
No anon, just overlap
Debut buff lasts forever!

>> No.55659197

FWMC raiding the protector of Idol Culture ?
>>55659075
20k or 19k next time without so many overlaps.

>> No.55659203

>>55659146
The holocaust

>> No.55659205

>>55659075
rare en overlap for these retard

>> No.55659209

>>55658919
BAU BAU GET PREGNANT

>> No.55659208
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>>55659142
tldr: Numbers go up, CtW was a massive success, and the numbers make a smiley face on cover's spreadsheets

>> No.55659218

>>55659000
why so many people in this thread?

>> No.55659236

>>55659146
The chinkout and Holocaust revoked a lot of perms from Holo

>> No.55659238

no... don't go...

>> No.55659248
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55659248

>>55658872
>55658659
Guess arrow straight up Sora's bushy asshole
What did they mean by that?

>> No.55659254

>>55659040
Copium

>> No.55659260

>>55659146
There is no permission to begin with

>> No.55659264
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>> No.55659275

>They didn't speak Japanese at all this stream
Based. Fuck JOP.

>> No.55659276
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55659276

FWMCMORNINGS
Ep0:38,979
Ep1:28,132
Ep2:23,079
Ep3: 23,269
Ep4: 17,258
Ep5: 20k

>> No.55659290

> Everyone on YT chat asking for JP dub
> Puts the poll on twitter
Will the JP dub win out? Or will the Poll get raided by outsiders?

>> No.55659301
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55659301

Sorry FWMC, 18k is reserved for DIAMOND DOGS.

>> No.55659299

>>55659168
Seriously, that is extremely hopeful. She blows through 20k easily, but entertaining 40k is madness.

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they're gone

>> No.55659318
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>>55658919

>> No.55659348

no raid for you Mori and Co., nice try though

>> No.55659369

>>55659299
>She blows through 20k easily
??

>> No.55659374

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eZyasHftXBc
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eZyasHftXBc
This is the reason on Marine subs growth

>> No.55659385
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55659385

BAU BAU

>> No.55659394

>>55659348
it's a watchalong anon

>> No.55659398

>>55659290
>will the Poll get raided by outsiders?
On Twitter? Definitely.

>> No.55659405

>Not even 17k anymore
How do we save FuwaMoco bros??

>> No.55659409
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55659409

>>55659142

>> No.55659439

>>55659000
16k because ENsharts are a lost cause who can't understand how magnificent an ASMR stream can be.
I won't watch that cuck queen anyway

>> No.55659437

>>55659276
>Ep5: 20k
Proof?

>> No.55659452

>>55657960
Even the nintenDOGS knelt in front of her
The numberqueens light permiates the land of the rising sun she has reached asended status this everyone kneels to her now
>The year of the rabbit buff is too strong.

>> No.55659454

>>55659374
If Peko was an actual numberfag she would do the same

>> No.55659461

HOOOOOOOOLY KING YARA RAID

>> No.55659473

>raided Kiara
lol
lmao even

>> No.55659481

I got jump scared by Kiara

>> No.55659489

>raided to Kiara
Let's look at retention rate

>> No.55659492

>>55659000
ASMR is niche content when it comes to CCV, retard.
How can /#/ be so fucking clueless when it comes to numbers.

It'll be around 10K just because of people checking out her first ASMR.

>> No.55659493

CHIKEN RAID

>> No.55659495

KIARA WINS

>> No.55659494

I'm staying. For dogs.

>> No.55659498

We’re back to making schizo threads. The advent buff will be missed

>> No.55659507

Based dogs killing Kiara's channel.

>> No.55659510
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0(tl;dr: The remaining Holostars are pretty much Frieza now, farming raspberries for your entertainment)
This stream right here by the Raspberry King made me realize a couple of things

Part I: The whole "Tempus Experience" made me realize a couple of things about their "story arc". Here is how it went

Summer 2022 season
>a new party arrives. four mysterious adventures show up in the land to initial acclaim, invited by the king and welcomed by the heroes.
>Very soon it is discovered that neither their habits nor their intentions are as pure as the current protagonists

Fall 2022
>The new party shows their true colors and wreck havoc in the kingdom.
>A significant part of the kingdom's population, plus half the heroes party and the King are under a spell and can't see the damage they're doing
>The kingdom forces and the adventures court join forces to deal with the remaining of the unconvinced population, defended only by a ragtag bunch of schizos following an old witch from another land
>One of the adventures pushes too far and ends up imprisoned temporarily by the kingdoms force, which helps to dehypnotize part of the population
>At the same time the kingdoms drawbridge is fully lowered so heroes from distant lands can mingle freely with the local ones and with the adventurers

Winter 2023
>Instead of summoning the long awaited five more heroes, the king goes completely insane and throw a big parade for four more adventures, at great expense for the kingdom treasure and much to the dismay of the population, now fully dehypnotized
>Even the heroes that welcomed the initial party now are skeptic about the new party and stay cautiously away from them
>Infighting in the now eight people adventurer guild causes internal friction and their lack of results and their dwindling support ends up in a palacian coup, with the former King being replaced by a new one

Spring 2023
>Morale is at an all time low in the Kingdom, both in the original group of heroes, the adventures, the populace and whatnot
>The situation can only be described in one word: grim
>The group of rebels manage to push the adventurers forces back and hold the line but, without a new group of heroes to increase morale and strengthen the ranks, the best that can be done is to achieve a demoralizing stalemate
>A big party for the original heroes is thrown by the new king, with the population invited to take part, sing and wave their torches and that injects new hope in the kingdom
>The drawbridge is pulled up again so the kingdom is no longer at danger of being overrun by outsiders

Summer 2023
>The anniversary of the first group of adventures come but DISASTER STRIKES!
>Two of the leaders of the adventures go missing, suspected to have been arrested by the forces of the new king, and the morale of the adventurers support hit an all time low
>The remaining adventurers, demoralized and depowered are forced to work in the Raspberry mines to entertain the masses
>AND THE MUCH AWAITED NEW HEROES ARE SUMMONED!
>They proved, at least initially, to be as good as the population expected and a new era of relative peace is found in the kingdom
>some unrest still occurs, with the adventurers supporters clinging to hope, while the rebels prepare the gallows and the rope for the eventual trial and hanging of the disappeared leaders of the adventurers
[YOU ARE HERE]

That would be the HoloEN anime, from Summer 2022 to Summer 2023 season (ongoing).

Part II: And this is what connects to
>pic related
the remaining Holostars are just "some lil guys", completely depowered from the initial threat they used to be
>ASSUMING THEIR LEADERS SWING FROM THE METAPHORICAL GALLOWS

It reminds me of Frieza, from world destroyer in his first appearance to some side character in subsequent arcs.
Their supporters still need to be completely vanquished but I don't even consider them a major threat anymore, just a bunch of minor annoyances farming raspberries for our entertainment.

All in all the remaining ones are just that, lil guys trapped into a kingdom that loathes them with a dreadful audience that doesn't really appreciate them and only want their existence to wage a war against imagined enemies.

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>>55659374
Marine is korean food seller?

>> No.55659525

>Moved by raid
>Heard GTA sounds
>Closed the tab

>> No.55659531

kiara 7k ez

>> No.55659530

Kiara effortless tally.

>> No.55659545

Sorry Kiara, I'm watching my Garlicunny practice pokemon

>> No.55659548

>raided kiara
what a waste of a raid lmaooo

>> No.55659552

>>55659276
Ep5: 15k

>> No.55659558

>Kiara raid
the graph falloff is going to be fucking BRUTAL
goddamn I can't believe they found a way to fuck kiara's channel up even further

>> No.55659563

>>55659494
Fuck that.

>> No.55659575

>>55659409
HOLOLIVE CANNOT STOP WINNING

>> No.55659577
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>>55659299
Why are anons pretending to be novelites and trying to make their own grudgepost? I honestly dont think it'll go last 10k.

>> No.55659581
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> Roboco literally has one (1) EN clipper who also occasionally live TL'ed on her streams.
> His channel name in the algo got destroyed by an asian comedian with a similar name.
> He himself got filtered by RBC's Valo spam.
> Last Roboco clip was 3 months ago.
> "Fell in love" with Patra.
> He only does Patra clips now, despite still getting the same numbers.
Robochi...

>> No.55659585

>>55659369
The power of coom.

>> No.55659584

easy 7k for kiara

>> No.55659590

KIARA ON THE REAL TALLY LOLOLO

>> No.55659593

>>55659146
After the Holocaust, from Cover's perspective they had no permissions and had to rebuild from scratch. So the new policy was to contact and ask for explicit permission for everything from now on. Konami are a notorious black company and already had an existing relationship with Anycolor, so it wouldn't surprise me if Anycolor convinced them to withhold permissions for Konami games from Cover.

>> No.55659592

>>55659146
They never had any before that, retard.

>> No.55659595

>>55659299
>>>>She blows through 20k easily

>> No.55659599

>>55659348
They were ending anon

>> No.55659615

Gura will soon drop again to under 10k like that one stream

>> No.55659621

>Open stream
>Type BAU BAU
>Close stream

>> No.55659623

>>55659409
Where's this from?

>> No.55659625

>One FWMC Morning raid every 2 days if she streams
Kiara's investment in this timeslot finally pays off

>> No.55659634

>>55659075
I blame kiara and the en off collab.

>> No.55659640

Oh, no. The viewership collapse will be too big.
It will hurt her in the algorithm.

>> No.55659657

>>55659454
She did, and failed to replicate it
Her audience simply do not watch short and she do not have the appeal for it since her appeal only show through streaming

>> No.55659669

Advent brought the raid meta to HoloEN and nijiniggers are pissing their pants over it.

>> No.55659670

>>55659142
Board of Directors saw EN make alot money but that money weny to homos in 2022. They hired Mr. Jap to correct any wrongdoings.

>> No.55659680

homosquad 4-man collab BTFO'd by wawa

>> No.55659692

>>55659409
>managed to gre EN audience, despite not releasing a single generation in two years
MY HATE FOR THE FAGGOT OMEGA JUST GROWS MORE AND MORE

>> No.55659706

>>55659494
don't be like that

>> No.55659708

>>55659405
It was 17k, which is good in contrast to the rest of Holo EN. I think with the more Holo EN streamers, the less everyone will get. I think when myth had no competition, it was easier to do better. Now, even Gura is not the same. I imagine for EN4, it will be tougher.

>> No.55659722

>>55659374
wrong link anon...

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>>55659409
>HolostarsJP were doing better at growth than sister branch
My fucking sides.

>> No.55659736

>>55659623
chatGPT I assume

>> No.55659743

>>55659510
Is this a metaphor? idgi

>> No.55659747

Please stay on Kiara's stream anons...

>> No.55659765

>>55659510
So ... Golden Frieza when?

>> No.55659769

>>55658919
BAU BAU

>> No.55659770

>>55658919
BAU BAU

>> No.55659775

>>55659581
I like Patra better too, good for him

>> No.55659784

>>55659409
Is this from Sora poster

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>>55659625
Well kiara received my raid before

>> No.55659791

>Kiara easily beat floprys
We have a new runt of EN

>> No.55659790
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55659790

LOL, natural incline!

>> No.55659801

>>55659736
chat gpt doesn't sound like that, and also as far as I'm aware chatgpt can't read images yet

>> No.55659822

>>55659657
she should have done more ryona bait

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>> No.55659834

>>55659669
Fauna was already raiding other CouncilRyS members for months. It's just more noticable now because there's a lot more people to throw around.

>> No.55659839

>>55659507
>>55659558
>>55659640
Why do anons in these threads pretend to understand how the YT algorithm works?

>> No.55659843

>>55659747
No. She's a hard worker but her voice is horrible.

>> No.55659858

I guess 1M in a year was too ambitious

>> No.55659887

>>55659790
>>55659830
I hate raids so much

>> No.55659903

>>55659830
damn 2.4k to 7k, impressive!

>> No.55659906

>>55659615
Only if she plays super debuffed game like ffixv

>> No.55659911

>>55659409
Thank God they took Omega out behind the barn and Old Yeller'd him.

>> No.55659925

>>55659887
I hate them too

>> No.55659926

Why did only 5k raid? Doesn't seem fair

>> No.55659940

>>55659839
because this is exactly how the algo works, newfag
now kys

>> No.55659943

>>55659545
Ping me if Pekora ever joins the VC, anontachi.

>> No.55659944

Is kaela not restricted?

>> No.55659955
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aieee

>> No.55659956

>>55659558
>>Kiara raid
>the graph falloff is going to be fucking BRUTAL
post it after stream

>> No.55659969

>>55659790
Hahaha this raid thing is out of control kek.

>> No.55659970

>>55659887
Yeah, they just fuck up the tally

>> No.55659971

>Kiara: FWMC, open raid for me so I can raid you girls (but raid me back, please)

>> No.55659972

>>55658938
Farfa good. Table 500 good
Thanks

>> No.55659975

>>55659510
Why does /#/ have better fanfics than /wg/...
I miss Wuxia anon

>> No.55659976

>>55659640
There's nothing to hurt. If she gets 10 extra permanent viewers out of this it's win.

>> No.55659980

>>55659858
We'll see. It's interesting because both outcomes are very much possible.

>> No.55659988

Can raiding really kills a channel's algo? How?

>> No.55659989

So do >we like raids now?

>> No.55659994

>>55659822
She is bad at being lewd anon, you can't just force people to suddenly become good at something
Her expertise is creating a long arching "story" spanning several streams, that kind of thing can't be expressed through shorts

>> No.55659996

>>55659940
You don't know shit.

>> No.55659998

Advent tourists need to be escorted to other streams via raids cause they dumb. Please anderstan

>> No.55660027

>>55659790
LOL RAID BABY KIARA

>> No.55660031

>>55659988
Retention

>> No.55660032

>FWMC Morning lost to FWMC
it's fucking over bros...

>> No.55660041

>>55659955
>kiara herself is a major debuff

>> No.55660046

>>55659989
No

>> No.55660048

>>55659955
Amazing. 13k ruffians said "fuck no" and didn't even allow themselves to be raided in to kiara. 1.5k (and counting) realized where they were and immediately left.

>> No.55660053

>>55659998
I got only bau bau in my mind

>> No.55660061

>>55659988
It appear to YT algo as "unnatural viewers" (it is)

>> No.55660062

>>55659988
We, yes >we, don't know. Don't listen to faggots that just repeat what some idiot said

>> No.55660070

>>55659955
I expect 3k by the time most of raiders fuck off

>> No.55660072

>>55659988
Nah, niji en just suck and their fans just fuck off.

>> No.55660086

>>55659615
Just ask her to do a watchalong or shill some rpg game, you will get your sub 10k goob stream

>> No.55660099

BIG DROP INCOMING

this will kill Kiara's channel

>> No.55660108

>>55659374
Wut? Some korean nigger selling fried chickin?

>> No.55660109
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Why is she getting lazy again

>> No.55660114

>>55659906
>IXV

>> No.55660120

>>55659989
I only like it is receiving person aren't stealing the gold from the one who's rading.

>> No.55660121

weird, even with more people moving on, the dropoff seems more stark when it's Kiara compared to Mori
the folks that redirect to Mori seem to stay for fairly long, even if the initial number is lower

>> No.55660122

>>55659839
spiffing brit made a video about this phenomenon.
raids without retention are considered as "fake views" and drop your priority in the algorithm, and can sometimes outright kill your channel if your raid falloffs reach some threshold.

>> No.55660124

>>55659955
This is unironically why Gura should never raid. It would have these humiliating graphs for other holos.

>> No.55660126
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>> No.55660131

>>55659789
>If anyone get pissed, they can kiss my ass.
Words from a wise dracula before he got send to the Rushia-Ukiraine frontline.

>> No.55660132

Kiara is surprisingly pleasant today.

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>>55658919

>> No.55660140

>>55659989
No. >We only like raids with good retention.

>> No.55660149

>>55659148
she's doing members only stream right now

>> No.55660158

>>55660048
>13k ruffians said "fuck no" and didn't even allow themselves to be raided in to kiara
Or you know, just closed the stream like most people do

>> No.55660164

>>55659988
it's about retention, youtube detects when people click on a video and quickly leaves as it being "undesirable" and so reccomends it to less people. It's why the nijien fellas cratered after the constant raid parties

that said it requires a constant, repeated instaces of this happening to kill the channel, one or two instances won't d much

>> No.55660168

>>55659625
she just needs to tactically schedule her streams right after and she won't be a ccv shitter anymore

>> No.55660169

>>55660062
>>55660072
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7SPVa3hpvzA

>> No.55660175
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>>55659790

>> No.55660176

>>55659944
why would she get restricted. she's against hologods

>> No.55660184

>>55659988
Very unlikely. In theory if you continuously raid something that people immediately leave, it could. Like if Pekora raided some Nigerian pastor every single day and everyone who wasn't asleep immediately left within 2 minutes, maybe it could hurt.

>> No.55660202

>>55660109
doing anime work

>> No.55660211

>>55660126
I wonder what #10, #11, #12 and #13 have in common (and also where is Kiara)

>> No.55660214

>>55660126
Fauna still in that 7-10k range

>> No.55660215

>>55660109
Anon this is the schedule for the rest of the week, are you retarded?

>> No.55660218

>>55659955
What Kiara gets when it stabilizes is still going to be 1-2k more than what she would have gotten by herself. She's probably happy that there's another EN that streams around her time sometimes that's willing to help her out.

>> No.55660221

If FWMC actually kills Kiara's channel I will kneel. I'll be a ruffian for life.

>> No.55660220
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55660220

Advent tourists hate idols, they want normie streamers like Mori

>> No.55660232

how was the MC thing…. Is worth my time?

>> No.55660236

>>55659955
Mori had better retention...tourists really get filtered by chicken huh

>> No.55660237

>>55660121
>the dropoff seems more stark when it's Kiara compared to Mori
Context is cope time?
FWMC raided JOPs into a very popular JOP game (Night Shift) for Carri-chan (who JOPs think is kakkoii).

>> No.55660238

>>55659988
Awful retention. There was a CC making a video about it.

>> No.55660265

>>55660126
>The Whoretastic 4 at the bottom
You love to see it.

>> No.55660277

>>55660109
Still in JP?

>> No.55660284

>>55660232
Not really

>> No.55660286

>>55660126
what happened brrats? 7k of you even choose your favorite timeslot

>> No.55660290
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>>55659494
You are based and blessed. As a fellow ruffian, I am proud. Bau bau!

>> No.55660289

>>55660126
Now post NijiEN.

>> No.55660292

>>55659510
> The remaining adventurers, demoralized and depowered are forced to work in the Raspberry mines to entertain the masses
fucking KEK

>> No.55660293

>>55660126
Gura leading in hours streamed... SLAP ME ANONS! WAKE ME UP!

>> No.55660295

Medians peak CCV were already dumb to rank the performance now they are going to be dumber if you think there is some serious real incline. This also isn't even going into things besides raids like peak CCV reward greatly shock value streams.

Average is better, don't care if they punish shit like SC readings or long JRPG streams. That's on them.

>> No.55660303

>>55660237
GTA isn't popular? what about the gta rp servers being popular recently?

>> No.55660316

stop leaving chimkin stream

>> No.55660323

>>55660293
Holy shit, you are right

>> No.55660324

>>55659581
Honestly if you're an eop gen 0 guy (like me) it's rough out here.
Miko does better on EN subs, but I'm still wholly reliant on like 2 people for my longform Miko clips.
Not to mention live TL's, of which there is almost none in Miko's stream.
So I get it. Make sure RBC feels the love from you instead anon.

>> No.55660325

>>55660032
I mean, JP slot lost to EN slot and there were significantly less JOPs in chat. It can be indication of 'fucking over' in a way.

>> No.55660330

>>55659510
KEK

>> No.55660341

>>55660236
karaoke and chilla games vs GTAIV #9734
I don't think it's fair

>> No.55660345

>>55659706
why not?

>> No.55660347

>>55659988
depends on the channel

>> No.55660348

>>55660126
>Gura is somehow beating half of the debut buffed raid baby new gen
Yep she's gonna be back on top by September

>> No.55660354

>>55660232
I only watch it because it's Peko
I'm not really interest in the ID girls

>> No.55660358

>>55660232
livestream, no. vod, yes. just skip any indo speak. the latter part tho is good with pegura team. Zeta was sweet as she was originally supposed to be.

>> No.55660369

>2k bleed chicken
ohnonono

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>>55660293
AAAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE
THANK YOU JAP-SAMA
THANK YOU DOGGOS

>> No.55660382

>>55660062
>we don't know
yeah anon, that's why NijiEN just spontaneously stop all raiding all of a sudden...

>> No.55660397

>>55660295
No one cares about average twitchbro. We counted raids when Luxiem was hot shit, so they still count now. Deal with it.

>> No.55660405

>>55660048
I closed the stream after the ending screen anon

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>>55660126
>Gura 13k ccv average
It’s fucking over for the shart lmao

>> No.55660413

>>55660169
You really think people that don't already know who Kiara or Hololive is would click a video of her just because it appeared on their feed? Retard

>> No.55660415

>>55660237
I'm talking about the Bijou raid into FF16 (Part 4? 5?), it got raided to 3.7k and only dropped to like 2.9k over 7 hours

>> No.55660427

Kiara is planning a collab with all of Holotori it seems (wants a game for 5 and mentioned Lui and Subaru specifically).

>> No.55660428

>>55660221
what is wrong with you?

>> No.55660431

>>55660293
The sleeper has awakened

>> No.55660436

>>55660126
how many of them are raid babies?

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>>55660126
>Gura streamed the most hours in August

>> No.55660448

>>55660358
>Temflops and ollie influence killed her career

>> No.55660454

>>55660345
if you have to force yourself to watch Kiara you'll end up hating her

>> No.55660475

>>55660126
>Gura
>1st in hours streamed
that's a wider chart

>> No.55660478

>>55658919
BAU BAU
BAU BAU BAU
BAU BAU BAU BAU
BAU BAU BAU
BAU BAU

>> No.55660482

>>55660369
You mean the same as any raid ever?

>> No.55660484

Now what, Kiara? you still like raids? ruru

>> No.55660485

>>55659988
https://youtu.be/5z0wUA4q1yA
This is for ad-boosted videos, but it very likely works the same way for raids as well.

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>>55660232
Kino games they have been working on(much better than anything the undokai had pulled off up until now, even the Elitra trial), but having to listen to the purple whore's broken english was awful.

>> No.55660500

>>55660169
So raid per se is not bad, it's the retention. If you retain the raid, then it's all good, if not like this Kiara stream, then you're just fucking up your channel

>> No.55660503

>>55660454
I've been doing it for three years now and I'm fine.

>> No.55660506

>>55660109
I wwonder if Holocure stream will be with early access version?

>> No.55660508

>>55660427
Hololive made me realize how many games won't cater to groups over 4 people

>> No.55660517

>>55660126
Sub 6k shitRyS

>> No.55660520

>>55660427
She's mentioning a bunch of crappy debuff games.

>> No.55660522

>>55660286
>No more dick to ride

>> No.55660528

>>55659988
The theory is that your channel might get flagged for "suspecious activity" that is getting an abnormal increase in viewership
>BUT THATS WHAT A RAID IS SUPPOSED TO DO
we already know that youtube is incompetent, much like there music fuck up we do not know if the raid algorythm works properly with the YouTube algorithm or is it just taped together, youtube has also said multiple times that they themselves don't understand the algorithm anymore.
One example i suppose will be nijiens viewership crashing, they fell too hard people are speculating it might be because the raids fucked up there position in the algorithm.

>> No.55660543

kiara literally did not ask anyone to raid her. she just wants to return the favor

>> No.55660548

>>55660412
shu is graduating, vox too

>> No.55660549

>>55660126
GO GURA GO

>> No.55660550

>>55660303
This is GTA IV though.

>> No.55660551

>>55659409
excellent

>> No.55660553

>>55660303
This is GTA4, the black sheep of the series

>> No.55660564

>>55660448
she can be redeemed if she dropped all homo retardation. she did not seem like spiteful to her viewers too

>> No.55660566

Kiara still holding 5k, that's a solid 2x from her prior numbers.

>> No.55660569

>>55660303
>GTA isn't popular?
GTA5? Yes.
GTA4? Hell to the fuck no.

>> No.55660570

>>55660485
>very likely
>maybe
>actually i have no idea

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>>55660412
This image is only reserved for the likes of you AKA Nijiniggers. Do not sully this image with your sister shit, you bargain bin liverlover.

>> No.55660578

>>55660412
Gura need only sound the clarion, and shrimp long dormant and lost will heed the call. Give her some time. Give the Chumbies some time.

>> No.55660575

>>55660126
Bae...

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>>55660293
>managing EN as dimitri jap + most hour stream
how does she do it

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55660589

>>55660126
>”Runt! Runt! Runt!”
Reality

>> No.55660610

>>55660099
she was already whiny with the numbers and now her confidence is gonna blow up with raids leaving in 10 minutes lmao imagine having your kouhais boosting you triple viewers and then going back to sub 3k

>> No.55660609

>>55660126
Where's Kiara?

>> No.55660608

>>55660232
No,Anya not the translator so JP is mostly silent or talk among themselves since ID host is speaking English and Indo only

>> No.55660612

>Minecraft
>Elden Ring/Soulsborne games
>ToTk/nintendo games
>FFXIV raids
>Horror games
This is bijou's weekly game schedules. You rike?

>> No.55660613

>>55660126
>average
what do the medians look like? bet the new advent girls have a bunch of 20k+

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55660622

I should have a threesome with my Mugyu Mugyu wife and Jimmynikki.

>> No.55660631

>>55660126
Now include Kiara anon
I know you can, you already got al the (You) from desperate chumbies

>> No.55660645

>Kiara sliding back into 4K
I guess it was too much more expect 5k stable
welp

>> No.55660647

>>55660508
these days most games don't cater to groups of 2 players. Dedicated multiplayer games don't tend to do well these days because most people are friendless fucks who can't gather a group for a game of billards if their lives depended on it

>> No.55660652 [DELETED] 

oh hey the ID girls are face caming on twitch with some random indo male
Iofi's channel

>> No.55660653

Is YouTube working for you? My steams are stuck in loading

>> No.55660657

>>55660543
>hey doggos, make sure you enable raids so I can raid you at 9 PM EST which will totally be a thing that happens ever
>also raid me back tee hee

>> No.55660662

>>55660126
Yep watch hour is king. I kneel gura

>> No.55660676

>>55660126
Why does Gura have more hours watched here than Bijou but Bijou was beating her on the Streamhatched one and FWMC were nowhere to be seen there?

>> No.55660681

>>55660126
This is what I mean by lots of competition. Gura seems to have it harder now. Also data is fucked, because of the endless raids, with the vast majority going to Shiori from the followers of other channels.

>> No.55660682

>>55660612
I mean it's alright

>> No.55660685

>>55660550
You just made me realize how old gta 4 is.... fuck...

>> No.55660688

>>55660436
All of them except Gura

>> No.55660692

now that i think about it, why are advent able to collab with kiara and mori in the second week?

>> No.55660702

>>55660126
raid baby doing raid baby things

>> No.55660703

>>55660652
notIofi? I don't even know if she had one to begin with

>> No.55660719

>>55660676
the zelda stream was bad ccv for bijou

>> No.55660726

>>55660645
kinda feel bad...

>> No.55660728

>>55660681
What fucking competition it's fucking new debut hours wait a month or two from now for shit to really settle before you say shit

>> No.55660735

>>55660427
Just look at Shiraken's collab game choices

>> No.55660746

>>55660612
It's solid enough. I'd kill the FFXIV though

>> No.55660747

>>55660211
>>55660631
>>55660609
Fucking newfags. Kiara's average is reserved to humilliate NijiCN's average numbers.

>> No.55660763

>>55660293
>acknowledges 2022 was a shitty year and apologized for it
>committed to bringing back 2020-2021 fun times
>comtemplating on bringing back schedules
>wants to restart forgotten projects (minecraft haunted house, FISH TANK)
>acknowledges lack of music and wants to release a ton this year
>wants to make sure she can have the best 3D live she can

You're not dreaming anon

>> No.55660781

>>55660303
JOPs can't understand the kino that is GTA4, but at the same time it's the chicken whore we're talking about so I side with them this time again.

>> No.55660783

BAU BAU BROS WE ARE ON THE WAY BACK TO OUR 2 VIEWERSHIP LET'S GO

>> No.55660792

where the fuck is Pego

>> No.55660800

>>55660303
>GTA RP
That's GTA V
And only with JP
Even with normalfags GTA RP are no longer the buff meta it used to be.
Now is skibidi toilet with westies

>> No.55660804

>>55660126
NijiEN doko?

>> No.55660811

>>55660325
but EUfags told me that the reason fwmc #1 got 28k was because of EU. Not JP or NA.

>> No.55660812

>>55659146
Konami are notorious scumbags. They're like Mussolini to Nintendo's Hitler and Disney's Stalin. Or something like that

>> No.55660820

>>55660612
She like simulator games too and the most active member to interact with her fanbase

>> No.55660827

>>55660232
there's be clips of it, just watch those

>> No.55660828

>>55660702
This does prove why raids are bad for numbers, particularly raids that mainly go in one direction. It screws the data completely.

>> No.55660829

>>55660746
Not until the Fall Guys crossover ends. That should be fun.

>> No.55660830

>playing my vidya while listening to FWMC morning
>get redirected to Kiara
>can't change anything because my hands are full
>forced to sit there for 10 minutes and take it
Forgot how low Kiara's Charisma stat was, bitch sounds so bored

>> No.55660853

>>55660792
She finished streaming?

>> No.55660860

>>55660792
Pekora slipped her way out

>> No.55660861

>>55660612
Solid except for the FF slop.

>> No.55660881

>>55660324
I already know JP and can watch streams so that's not really a problem... but I obviously don't have enough time to do clipping stuff...
I guess I'll just keep spreading her name when I can.

>> No.55660885

>>55660830
Poor you

>> No.55660884

>>55660652
Twitch should let you block channels. Sick of seeing dozens of non-vtubers using the vtuber tag.

>> No.55660888

>>55660747
Hours streamed anon
Hours streamed
We know her average CCV is shit
But her hours streamed is different

>> No.55660905

>>55660830
What the fuck are you talking about, bored is the literal opposite of what she sounds like

>> No.55660908

>>55660763
All of that will last a month or two tops before her motivation slowly dies down again and she goes back to 2022 Gura because she's an irresponsible alcoholic womanchild with no work ethic

>> No.55660916

>>55660631
Gura still have more than Kiara, anon just do quick check

>> No.55660939

>>55660570
If you suddenly get an influx of viewers and they all leave your stream, then the click through impressions for the usual ad that's shown at the start of every stream will be ABYSMAL.
That shit CAN kill a channel quite easily.

>> No.55660940

>>55660692
The collab ban for en was shorten due to popular demand.

>> No.55660945

>>55660884
LMAO FLESH LOSERS NEED TO USE THE VTUBER TAG

>> No.55660947

>>55660884
There is an addon to hide certain tags and more than likely some of the more atrocious one usually have some tags in common

>> No.55660950

>>55660916
Hours streamed?

>> No.55660957

>half of the raid is gone
chimkin...

>> No.55660959

>>55660888
You will see them when he posts the NijiCN numbers.

>> No.55660962

>>55660853
>>55660860
pokeunite grind

>> No.55660966

>>55659581
Ohhh yeah, I saw his Patra clips.
Never saw any Roboco clips though.

>> No.55660970

>>55660528
>The theory is that your channel might get flagged for "suspecious activity" that is getting an abnormal increase in viewership
it's not that. Here is the explanation as relayed AND PROVED by the Brit dude with receipts, although not in the context of live stream but of regular uploads

1) The main metric Youtube uses for everything with regards to "recommendation" is a proxy for "user satisfaction", an indicator that shows that people that get recommended that video really liked it
They measure it with a good proxy for that: "average view time". That's the time the users spend watching the video, in the average.
>If makes sense too: if for a 5 minutes video people spend 4 minutes and thirty watching it on average it must be a good one. If people on average only watches 10 seconds, it might be a bad one unworthy of being recommended

2) That brit dude showed that if you buy and ad targeting THE EXACT OPPOSITE AUDIENCE of the video being advertised you can KILL it's algo recommendation
To prove that he did just that, on one of his own videos, using a brand new google account, he bought an ad targeting people that HATE that type of video.
He went from tens of thousands of impression per hour to ALMOST ZERO immediately after a few hours after releasing the ad, showing that if a significant number of people drop by your video and bails immediately, it drops your "average view time" and kills it in the algo

3) There is no distinction for Youtube with regards to live streams and regular video uploads, once it becomes VOD, Youtube treats them the same.
That implies that, if you have a significant number of people (far superior to your regular audience) dropping by your video and bailing immediately (be it during the live stream or afterwards) it will drop your "average view time" and, hence, kill you in the algo

It just so happens that raids with poor retention works exactly like that, hence the hypothesis that a raid with poor retention will actually hurt your VOD down the road and, if you get many of those, it will hurt your channel as a whole

>> No.55660988

>>55660506
Nobody is getting early access this time

>> No.55660999

>>55660950
Just look at it lmao retard

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>>55660681
>Gura seems to have it harder now
>competition
time to pull this baby out again. see this shit? Kronii was mogging the entire fucking company. Fauna was beating Gura
wait a few months and they'll all be fighting for their life to get 10ks

>> No.55661023

>>55660681
>competition
>gura already beating 3/4 Advent members despite being in their debut month
uhmm

>> No.55661041

>>55660830
>hands full for 10 minutes
Did you just admit that you masturbated to kiara? Also you can say a lot of bad thibgs about kiara but bored is not one of them

>> No.55661054

Give it to me straight, numbercucks, what are the chances of Nijisanji losing Koshien next year.
What are the chances of Hololive Koshien 2024?

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>> No.55661073

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJri9Mcs2HY
>40k views
>on marines channel
jesus christ, she could upload a picture of her png staring at you in silence and it would get more views than this

>> No.55661084

AHEM
Hololive is good.

>> No.55661094

>>55660681
their honeymoon numbers are barely beating Gura playing random ass games anon...

>> No.55661101

>>55660303
GTA V is the only really buff Rockstar game.

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>>55661004
Idk what you're talking about anon these are clearly their numbers forever and this power level has remained set in stone since

>> No.55661109

>>55660988
Anon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlINnRziMkU

>> No.55661121

>>55660988
are you retarded

>> No.55661122

>>55660970
More on that: there is some empirical evidence for that being the case, because this pattern of poor retention raids started with Tempus, iLUNA and XSoleil and you guys saw the result of that...

>> No.55661131

>>55660126
Sapbros...

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>>55661054
who the fuck wants koshit. it's borefest meant for bots.

>> No.55661136

>>55659142
That everyone in Cover including ALL talents are making fucking bank. Which is honestly surprising.

Basically everything this place thought was wrong. What's the use of this place then?

>> No.55661144

>>55660959
Anon
Most of NijiCN stream longer than Gura despite their CCV is shit
So no, it won't change that Gura get the most CCV with barely any stream
>But this week...
Now go see the lenght of Kiara's lastest streams this month

>> No.55661157

>>55660950
Yes. I know it's hard to believe, but yes Gura has more hours streamed than Kiara on this month.
Granted it's only by 6 minutes, but the point still stands.

>> No.55661162

>>55660988
Everyone did, I hope Gura overlaps Mori

>> No.55661170

>>55661073
This is actually weird. Is this unlisted or something?

>> No.55661176

>>55661131
She's doing how she always does. Completely chugging along, what's more to ask for?

>> No.55661179

>>55660612
Everything except nintendoshit is alright

>> No.55661181

>>55661136
>including ALL talents
They don't discriminate the numbers per talent, there is no indication for that in the report

>> No.55661185

>>55658919
bau bau?

>> No.55661192

>>55661157
shark is motivated

>> No.55661203

>>55660792
Try to check on uniteapi if she plays with her Pekora account or not. She might be sleeping because at 12:00 there is the real tournament.

>> No.55661205

>>55660293
>>55660763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA9OTf87QyQ

>> No.55661206

>>55661004
Ahh, the good old days.
Back in 2021 when Gura had 19 streams in a month...

>> No.55661223

>>55660950
Not counting Kiara's current ongoing stream - yes, Gura is leading in hours streamed, too.
(Kiara is at somewhere around 25 hours streamed going by Vrabi data), place her behind Gura + Bijou but ahead of IRyS

>> No.55661221

mori needs to coombait more, she has the model for it

>> No.55661227

>>55661104
lol look at those three loser JPs at the bottom, I bet at least one of them got shitcanned.

>> No.55661239

>>55660970
It this permanent or temporary because the chicken channel resurrected twice now!

>> No.55661245

>>55660830
lol can relate, I was fingerbanging my 2 dogs

>> No.55661250

>>55660970
Interesting anon. Shiori seems to be declining in YouTube subscribers perhaps by getting less recommendations. Could it be related?

>> No.55661246

>>55661170
Nah I got it in my recommends

>> No.55661256

>>55660970
But this means Youtube's entire streaming system is fucking busted cause raids are a counter feature. No one has amazing raid retention in general, raids are not meant to have good retention as a cocnept

>> No.55661260

>>55661162
>I hope Gura overlaps Mori
Sorry anon, she said she couldn't stream that day.

>> No.55661268

>>55661134
>71k watching
>43 chats per minute
No fucking way right? my 3view gets way more chats than 43 a minute

>> No.55661272

>>55661181
Even though. Let's say others make less due to superchat. None of them are actually going though poverty.
The top 10 or even 20 are for sure damn rich.

>> No.55661276

>>55661054
Koshien copium huffer need to realize Holo Koshien is impossible. A baseball team consist of 22 players. For a proper tournament you need 6-7 teams to be exciting, which mean about 154 character (Holo) at the very least is needed. Current Hololive have half that number

>> No.55661278

>>55661157
>6 minutes
Not anymore if true

>> No.55661284

>>55660970
>There is no distinction for Youtube with regards to live streams and regular video uploads, once it becomes VOD,

proof? it puts them under the 'Live' tab now so clearly it treats them different

>> No.55661297

imagine having a discussion about the most meme metric in streaming, hours streamed KEK

>> No.55661301

>>55661004
How the fuck was Naruse so low back then, dude was a legend pre-2020 too

>> No.55661309

>>55661260
Gura is lying, she also said she couldn't stream yesterday. Shark will come to eat you.

>> No.55661310

>>55661004
>Kronii was mogging the entire fucking company
She is boring anon. Just overhyped.

>> No.55661311

>>55661062
SASUGA TENCHOU

>> No.55661312

>>55661206
It's unironically possible for it to happen again this month

>> No.55661313

>>55661073
>on Marine's channel
Check the icon for your video
>Provided to YouTube by cover corp.
It's a YT Music auto generated song. They work differently and
>>55661170
No, it only appears under Releases, in fucking playlist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJri9Mcs2HY&list=OLAK5uy_mT59rI-VW4UGawD5xbXckM64GvapHZNGI

>> No.55661319

>>55661162
Gura comes back on friday. She specifically mentioned thursday as no stream day. And that mc practice stream was her stream today.

>> No.55661336

>>55661310
Hey just like Advent!

>> No.55661337

>>55661297
It’s chumpedos coping that the shart got mogged lmao

>> No.55661341

>>55661054
Why would Konami give Koshien to hololive?

>> No.55661344
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55661344

When you fly too close to the sun with wings made of numbers you don't deserve.

>> No.55661358

>>55661272
There are also anomalies like Kiara who get very good SC numbers but poor CCV

>> No.55661367

>>55661054
0
Like it or hate it, Niji Koshien is still a big, massively successful event. Konami has no reason to rock the boat unless Hololive can show clear proofs of being able to get significantly higher viewership

>> No.55661374

>>55661256
Youtube was never built for raid in the first place. They merely want to copy Twitch with that

>> No.55661380

>>55661310
Well yeah, that's why she stopped.
Now look me in the fucking eye and tell me Shiori is somehow going to stay top EN dog. Come on.

>> No.55661385

>>55661250
She's only 3k behind bijou kys doomfag

>> No.55661393

>>55661256
>No one has amazing raid retention in general
Probably looks to see what the biggest drop offs are, rather than any drop off.

>> No.55661398

>>55661162
No Gura streams for two days. Nerissa will finally be able to show her true power

>> No.55661403

>>55661297
What do you expect out of chumkeks

>> No.55661408

>>55661101
Even then people just want to see the nigga scene and then fuck off after part 1

>> No.55661412

>>55661337
FWMC is mogging their shark so they have to cling onto something BAU BAU

>> No.55661420
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>>55659409
Can someone explain this? Is this just their salaries for the Holos or does that include everything?

>> No.55661430

>>55661297
>most meme metric
That's hours watched, newfag.

>> No.55661439

>>55659405
infiltrating youtube and putting them in the algo

>> No.55661442

>>55661398
That's cute.

>> No.55661443

>>55661403
So true sister

>> No.55661445

>>55661004
>Kronii was mogging the entire fucking company
The entire vtubing scene.
Funny, back then I remember people understood that this was temporary a lot better than they seem to understand for Advent. I'm already seeing people desperate to say Advent's debut buff is over , and their honeymoon too. What's up with that?

>> No.55661457

>>55661385
If what he said was true, it might follow to assume the possibility anon.

>> No.55661459

>>55661297
I remember chumbuds used to look down on that metric until Gura started streaming more lately
It's just how this thread is, don't take it too seriously

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>>55661398
>Implying we will watch her
Roru
Rumao

>> No.55661464

>>55661309
She said she wasn’t sure if she could, not that she wouldn’t.

>> No.55661475

>kiara sudden tech issues
>kiara whining about crap
>now 4.5k
KFP can cope all they want about raid retention being bad for everyone but Kiara is just not good at keeping tourists

>> No.55661481

I WANT TO MEMBER BAUBAU SO BAD

>> No.55661485

So......we really just threw NijiEN out of the window or something? No one is even talking about their numbers anymore?

>> No.55661486

>>55661337
and you are coping that Shiori or Fuwamoco really is the new queen lmao

>> No.55661493

>>55660126
>Kiara not there
How did she fuck up so hard to the point where people don't even consider her a holo?

>> No.55661495

>>55661445
Advent newfag infestation

>> No.55661501

>>55660763
>comtemplating on bringing back schedules
Where'd you get this from anon? When it came to schedules it sounded more like she made excuses/explained why she won't do them.

>> No.55661503
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55661503

>Ruffians barking in the background.

..And not a single fuck was given.

>> No.55661515

>>55661358
CCV and superchat numbers have never been related to any significant degree, consider that the number one and two most superchat vtubers in the world are Coco, who has an average CCV somewhere in the 3-4k, and Rushia, who averaged around 15k back when she was still with hololive. If anything, judging from Scarle and Kiara, the higher your superchats, the less CCV you'll get

>> No.55661523

>>55661256
I mean the main issue is whether or not Youtube is smart enough to take raids into account when determining whether or not to deprioritize a stream. Considering that, as proven by The Spiffing Brit's video, you can easily sabotage any video you want by taking an ad out on it, the answer is leaning heavily towards "no, they are not smart enough to do that".

>> No.55661531

>>55661344
could be worse though

>> No.55661536

>>55661420
>only 28K-40K per talent
Holokeks? Explain. King's making $80K a year in comparison.

>> No.55661537

>>55661475
>almost everyone has at least kinda good retention except kiara
and it is never kiaras fault according to kfp

>> No.55661548

>>55661136
That’s like combining Pekora and Uyu income, dividing it by 2 and then say the average is that amount.
It’s pretty obvious that the homos and some of the IDs heavily skew the average down.

>> No.55661549

how do we save Kiara?

>> No.55661555

Opening memberships is usually at the end of first month, right? Any predictions for each Advent members?

>> No.55661557

Well if we all accept raids now, then we must say the Shark is currently losing these matches. I mean what is the truth anymore.

>> No.55661562

>>55661380
She'll do better than Kronii, she seems to know what she wants to do while Kronii just spammed debuff indie garbage

>> No.55661565

>>55661367
and even then they would just let Hololive set up a rival koshien instead of baring nijisanji. Why have one pie when you can have two

>> No.55661569

>>55661412
>sisters got no more numbers to present against HoloEN
>Fuwamoco mogs the shart! BAU BAU

>> No.55661574

Chumpedos and numberfags arguing over Gura's CCV, when Gura's ideal streaming environment is and has always been not being anywhere near #1.

>> No.55661576

>>55661358
>Anomalies
Holy newfag
The mf spic larper flip from NijiCN earns more in superchats than all of HoloEN
Low CCV and Big SC revenue is not an anomaly retard. Is literally how a lot of 2view stay afloat.

>> No.55661578

>>55661420
Afaik Holo doesn't get salaries anymore. None of en have ever mentioned it and nobody in hololive jp have mentioned it in years. Seeing as it was such a small amount of money to begin with, it's pretty likely that they did away with the program since now all of the people make way more than what the salary was.

>> No.55661582

>>55661523
You are mixing live streams and videos, they have fundamentally different metrics

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>>55661062
retention comparision

>> No.55661603

>>55661486
He did that to Bijou, even come to their thread celebrating, kek

>> No.55661606

>>55661420
It should include everything. There is no way their monthly salary went from minimum wage to $27k a month (on average, which meant a lot of members will realistically have higher due to Stars and ID dragging the average down)

>> No.55661612

>>55661481
Oh when are they going to open channels' membership again? I thought it was supposed to be the same time as superchat?

>> No.55661625

>>55661475
Why did she choose GTA4 to begin with? This game was infamous for being the buggiest shit among all GTA titles.

>> No.55661626

>>55661549
do an intervention on fixing her whole personality and voice
its gonna be tough

>> No.55661637

So who will win tomorrow's poke tournament?

>> No.55661642

>>55661536
why are nijiniggers this retarded?

>> No.55661656

>>55661578
Holy grim. They get nothing now? At least Nijis get paid

>> No.55661664

>>55661062
lmao that's so fucked

>> No.55661675
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>>55661442
>>55661462
you anons already forget last night? One got raided by a 16k stream, and it's not Nerissa

>> No.55661681
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He is back into my recommendation, might be making a return into the algo

>> No.55661689

>>55661537
their heads are in the sand as much as kiara's is. I guess that's what happens when you cultivate a small but strong audience of yesmen

>> No.55661688
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55661688

>>55661297
>>55661337
>>55661459
>>55661412
>>55661574

>> No.55661697

>>55661495
Hey man, /#/ isn't immune to this shit every new gen.

Need I remind you of HoloX and ID3 debuts? About muh ID renaissance and incline and now they're back in the gutters with kobo being the equivalent of a low tier EN whereas before she was right behind Gura for months?
About tempiss and their 3-4k medians for months?
Give Advent time to filter their audience.

>> No.55661704

>>55661062
isn't this a nijiEN tier retention graph?

>> No.55661705

>>55660202
She had a new one?

>> No.55661706

Mugyu Mugyu time...

>> No.55661710

>restarted stream
chicken's body is cold

>> No.55661715

>>55661420
math for brainlets. top 20 makes up 60% of the revenue.

>> No.55661725

>>55659142
Basically shareholders are crying to Yagoo that the Holos are making too much money for themselves.
Yagoo said fuck you we pay them well because if they are happy then Cover earns more.

Not even a joke.

>> No.55661735

>>55661537
>shiori
>good retention

>> No.55661737

>>55661642
Why do Holos get paid nothing for everything they do?

>> No.55661739

>>55661536
That's 28k+ per month bro...
even Anya can buy multiple properties

>> No.55661743

https://twitter.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1689306876322979840
vote

>> No.55661747

>>55661675
What are you trying to imply here?

>> No.55661750

>>55661256
>But this means Youtube's entire streaming system is fucking busted cause raids are a counter feature
Anon, Youtube is retarded like that. The whole experiment of the Brit dude was to prove
>YOU CAN BUY ADS ON YOUTUBE TO KILL YOUTUBE VIDEOS OF YOUR YOUTUBE COMPETITORS
Ads as a counterfeature, can you imagine that?

>>55661284
>proof? it puts them under the 'Live' tab now so clearly it treats them different
At the height of CCVID and people pestering TeamYoutube they disclosed something similar to "you might see incorrect numbers for your concurrent views but that won't affect your average view time" which indicates the metrics they care about would not be affected

>> No.55661755

>>55661430
Hours streamed is even worse because no one ever compare that in any serious manner. Kiara would have been HoloEN's MVP if hours streamed matters.
At least hours watched, as much of a meme metric it is, is tracked by proper streaming data sites and certain Holo members (i.e: Pekora, Koyori) cared about it

>> No.55661752

>>55661637
I bet on ID and JP will somehow found a way to job

>> No.55661758

>>55661569
cope chumshart

>> No.55661762

>>55661592
getting raids at the start of a stream is the best way to retain it, bonus if it's a short game or activity

>> No.55661774

>>55661625
Nah that's the remake of SA, shit was unironically a mobile port that they ported over to consoles and then PC

>> No.55661777

>>55661612
They're waiting for channel emotes to be done. So earliest would be next week. or it could take as long as a month

>> No.55661785

>>55661637
JP >>>>>>> ID >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EN

>> No.55661786

>>55661681
I noticed that he's been trying the 8+ minute format for a few weeks now, seems like he numberfagged his way out of the algo black hole?

>> No.55661787

>>55661747
That Nerissa is the #2 Advent, what else?

>> No.55661795
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OH NO NO NO

>> No.55661800

>>55661420
Basically even if a of the top earners get the bigger piece of the pie, all of the talents are actually doing well money-wise. Yes even the Stars.

>> No.55661799

>>55661459
No one is exalting the metric, most replies are literally
>what the fuck how is Gura leading in this
It's like if suddenly Ina started dominating superchats. Are superchats suddenly relevant? No. Is it insane to see her do that considering who she is? yes.

>> No.55661806

>>55661380
>Now look me in the fucking eye and tell me Shiori is somehow going to stay top EN dog
But she’s isn’t. They are the viewers earned from other channels, then being sent to boost her numbers. It’s not actually all her viewers. Meaning Gura is already beating her now.

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>>55661704
lol no

>> No.55661818

>>55661625
I think it was decided by poll or something

>> No.55661826

>>55661536
>>55661737
>*average*
>per month
Uhmmm, Nijifriend?

>> No.55661829

>>55661675
Shiori had more viewers in pre-chat and in the beginning. It would have been very close without the raid.

Point is that she's not gonna crap out amazing figures just because she has no overlap.

>> No.55661832

>>55661795
OOOFFFF

>> No.55661834

>>55661737
Your KING make 80k a year meanwhile a top Holo make half of that in one month. Now I dare you calculate their yearly numbers, just multiply it by 12, cmon

>> No.55661833

>>55661062
I want to make fun of KFPiss but there is a chance the chicken whore will have a mental breakdown like the delusional manwhore from NijiCN had that one time.

>> No.55661841

>>55661536
you can't be this stupid...

>> No.55661843

>>55661737
that number is per month retard

>> No.55661855

>>55661656
Nijis get paid the same way. A lot of nijis in Jp work jobs because there's so much competition only the top earners make enough to afford to not work.

>> No.55661867
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>2/5 can't go wrong
>3/5 get groomed by Mori
>4/5 used goods GFE
>5/5 fandead special

>> No.55661868

>>55661795
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

>> No.55661877

>>55661786
is that channel bad or?
t. ourist

>> No.55661881

>>55661688
>get salty about your objective numbers being mogged in the numbers thread
go back to global, chumbud
this FWMC domination now

>> No.55661888

>>55661787
She is not even better than Bijou, she won't be the runt because that place is for Shiori, she will be the number #4

>> No.55661889

>>55661697
Oh I know. No harm in pointing out what's currently happening though. There's also some desperate nijiniggers larping as advent fans because they still can't stop seething over gura.

>> No.55661891

>>55661814
>>55661795

>> No.55661897

>>55661795
Activate the Anti-Number aura

>> No.55661898

>>55661420
>suisei
She actually doesn't spend that much on gacha since her credit card limit is low.

>> No.55661906

>>55661785
I thought MOBA is the essence of SEA

>> No.55661908

>>55661735
>Now shitting on Shiori
Yup, is just chumpedos grabbing onto any straw they can to prove their shark is still the strongest even after casting the "Gura Killer" hex
....kek

>> No.55661911

>>55661814
One of the dumbest raids of all time. I believe this was an Uki karaoke full of kpop sisters into an esports commentary stream.

>> No.55661916

>>55660126
Ina falling behind IRyS
What the hell happened to the former #2 EN?

>> No.55661918

>>55661800
See>>55661578
They're not being paid at all anymore.
Why aren't there any threads about this? This is MORE THAN BLACK

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>>55661891

>> No.55661926

>tech issues
>yelling in an ugly shrill voice
yep this is the kiara experience
sorry for any ruffians that have to endure this, if you're still even watching

>> No.55661939

>>55661888
There's only 4 channels in Advent, anon.

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55661950

>>55661795

>> No.55661953

>>55661578
>>55661656
You do know you are basing your entire argument on "Holo did not mention it so it's not real" right?

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ACCELERATE

>> No.55661966

>>55661906
not in the face of Pokemon autists

>> No.55661976

>>55661762
ye, and this was nearly none of those things
massive debuff content, Part X, 5h+ stream and yet the retention was pretty good, even while overlapped by IRyS and Shiori
people don't seem to keen on clicking on Mori's streams or they aren't recommended in the first place, but once they somehow get there they seem to... stick around?
I wonder what's up with that

>> No.55661997

>>55661953
what can you expect from nijiniggers?

>> No.55662002

>>55661578
>Afaik Holo doesn't get salaries anymore.
>>55661918
>They're not being paid at all anymore.
kek, anon makes an unbacked assertion, then uses his own post to corroborate it.

What type of judaism is this?

>> No.55662006

>>55661888
>>55660126

>> No.55662012

>>55661908
Fuck off nijinig

>> No.55662014

>>55661916
Zelda spam into Pikmin

>> No.55662017

>>55661800
They're not being paid though retard. If anything this is a sign Cover is a black company if they scrapped their yearly salary for their livers.

>> No.55662026

>>55661420
this is how homobeggars rationalize the existence of the faggots

>> No.55662048

>>55661906
pokemon unite requires a switch which never gained major penetration in SEA

>> No.55662057

>>55662017
>livers

>> No.55662065

>>55661344
why the new gen keeps raiding other holos? it used to be only nijien and homo who did this. no holo jp/en/id who raid other holos randomly, they only use it during event or relay

>> No.55662076

>>55662002
we call them nijiniggers for a reason

>> No.55662079

>>55661834
Holy shit you didn't see>>55661578
THEY DON'T GET PAID A SINGLE PENNY. THIS IS AN OUTRAGE

>> No.55662088

>>55661888
>Bijou
now I know you're just shitposting. This is the last (you) you'll be getting from me. Still, it's
>Fuwamoco
>Nerissa
>Shiori
>Bijou

>> No.55662089

If you debuted as a Holo Homo, would you be able to make it as a 4view?

>> No.55662092

>>55660126
So many newfags that dont know why kiara isnt on the list god

>> No.55662100

Kiara is a fucking mistake.

>> No.55662103

kiara 4k doryaaaa

>> No.55662106
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Why doesn't cover just grow the domestic market, they obviously get most of their numbers from there...

>> No.55662108

>>55662017
so true sis! #cut4hex

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>>55661344
talk about the most wasted raid i've seen this week

>> No.55662119

>>55661256
>No one has amazing raid retention in general
If only the streamers weren't so retarded they would throw raids here and there like the Twitch faggots do. The Christmas and Summer Relays' raids always proceeded well, no matter how much you try to cope about that feature.

>> No.55662121

>>55661906
>Anya and Reine
>SEA

>> No.55662122

>>55662014
Don't forget Final Fantasy

>> No.55662133

>>55659510
The heroes did not hypnotize the King, it was Wormtongue. He's dead now.

>> No.55662146

>>55661953
It's in the report that they completely rid the salaries per livers. Now please cope otherwise because they're not being paid at all now kek

>> No.55662164

>>55659510
>I READ IT ALL
>I CRIED IN THE END
>I READ IT AGAIN TO FIND THE EASTER EGGS
ANON, I KNEEL!

>> No.55662169

>>55662048
It's available on phone from some time ago but IIRC SEA has that mobile LoL or something so it never got popular.

>> No.55662171

>>55661337
>It’s chumpedos coping that the shart got mogged lmao
Well what does a majority believe here…
Do you view raids as counting, so Shiori beats Gura?
Do you view raids as NOT counting, so Gura beats Shiori?

>> No.55662186

>>55662017
>livers
Yaaaaaas sis! *peels foreskin back*

>> No.55662187

Why is Kiara streaming this shit instead of training for the PU tourney anyways?

>> No.55662189

I kinda a newfag in this thread But wasn't this site supposedly to have a bunch of unicorns? Because if that's the case I don't see why almost everyone here shits on Kiara, I thought she was unicorn friendly

>> No.55662193

>>55661800
>Yes even the Stars.
Nobody here is particularly concerned about the Stars themselves, but rather the company. The talent will get paid on the revenue they generate no matter what, so they will be above water always unless the blow that money on dumb shit. The reason they got their projects cut and the requirements put in place is because the company needs to show investors that they're earning more than they spend on the Homos.

>> No.55662194

>>55662106
They are
What? You thought Pekora doing all sort of brand product collab this year have no meaning? Management obviously advised her to go in that direction

>> No.55662198

>>55661675
>only 24k
Yeah we got our Advent runts right here.

>> No.55662206

>>55662002
>doesn't get salaries anymore
ITS LITERALLY RIGHT THERE. NO SALARY, NO PAY. IT'S ALL FREELANCE, GET A BRAIN

>> No.55662215

>>55662117
They should have raided altare instead

>> No.55662221

>>55662119
You think YT introduced a copy cat stream feature to be used in relays and related streams exclusively? come on anon

>> No.55662227

>Kiara whining about how she just has bad luck and how her debut was scuffed and now that Advent debuted she has bad luck again
jesus

>> No.55662230

>>55662146
so this is the level of retardation nijiniggers are at now

>> No.55662232

>>55662187
Doesn't want to read.

>> No.55662236

>>55662146
>It's in the report that they completely rid the salaries per livers.
No it isn't

>> No.55662242

>>55661877
There was a YouTube algo change a while back that supposedly punished "reused content," which was then followed by a fuckload of clippers getting algo murdered and/or having their channels purged. Sushi used to be one of the biggest (or just THE biggest) clip channels before getting unceremoniously Susan'd; he's generally trustworthy though a bit speedsub-y in quality.

>> No.55662254

>>55662206
Right where?

>> No.55662257

>>55661592
>Peak is lower than Kiara's current stream pre raid
I knew is just chumbuds getting desperate at FWMC power to rely on Mori
FWMC did not help shit for Kiara
But also
"GTA IV > FF"
OH NO NO NO NO
HAHAHAHA

>> No.55662271

>>55662198
>only 24k
>only
>more than what FWM+Bijou got
>only

>> No.55662272

>Hololivers get no salaries and therefore are 100% freelancing now
>somehow Holofags spin it as good for the company
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I KNEW YOU WERE THE CORPORATE BOOTLICKERS THE WHOLE TIME

>> No.55662273
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55662273

>55662215

>> No.55662274

>>55661795
>Bad raid retention followed by Internet / YT issue
Kiara just can't get a break...

>> No.55662279

>>55661800
>Yes even the Stars
G-guys please support me so I can buy a PS5!
t.Axel

>> No.55662294
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55662294

>>55662206
kek, the voices are getting louder
>TIME FOR YOUR MEDS!

>> No.55662297

>>55662189
Kiara has some really weird things going on stemming from way back when she first debuted where unicorn wasn't valued as highly here. At this point I feel like it's just groupthink where posters here hate kiara because other people hate kiara and so they think that's what they need to do to fit in

>> No.55662296

>>55662119
>If only the streamers weren't so retarded they would throw raids here and there
YouTube probably doesn’t want the raid system abused. Management should only use raids where retention will be high, otherwise no. That is IF that post was correct

>> No.55662323

>>55662272
So true sis! #neck4vox

>> No.55662321
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55662321

>>55661549
Honorary HoloAn can't be saved

>> No.55662326

>>55662242
>supposedly
There's no supposedly about it. Several clippers got their channels demonetized due to the reused content policy.

>> No.55662330

>>55661592
>peak literally lower than Kiara having tech issues

>> No.55662336

>>55662274
Tranny deserves it.

>> No.55662340

The way Nijinigger are arguing now is exactly the way an 8 years old would

>> No.55662341

Smells vietdogs in here

>> No.55662342

>>55662189
Nigga this Is the numbers thread shes the fucking poison of ccv, the black hole of buffs, the destroyer of volume levels and ruiner of collabos.
Love her work with holotori tho.

>> No.55662343

>>55662227
>now that Advent debuted she has bad luck again
And? why is saying she has bad luck?

>> No.55662347

>>55662272
>Hololivers

>> No.55662353

>>55662230
No salary=No pay
How the fuck is it that hard for you to understand basic logic?
>>55662236
Yes they did.

>> No.55662359

>>55662189
It's easy anon. We like numbers. Kiara lacks numbers. Go to the global if you want to see love for Kiara.

>> No.55662369

>>55577129
Kek I knew you retards were bullshitting yesterday when replying to me. Feels good to be vindicated in not even 24 hours and know the hypocrisy, blatant lying of the residents here.

>> No.55662370

>>55662189
it's more of a CGDCT thread and Kiara fails at the C parts

>> No.55662373
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55662373

>random sister makes retarded claim
>sudden burst of spam about it
It makes me happy to see that nijiniggers still got it in them! If they just shut the fuck up holofags would turn on each other but as it is, the common enemy persists

>> No.55662381

The game crashed so hard it killed her goxlr

>> No.55662385

>>55662189
/#/ has always hated Kiara, anon.

>> No.55662388

The problem with raid is that they raid the wrong ppl. Would you rather watch mori or fauna? There's your answer.

>> No.55662394

Kiara....

>> No.55662395

>>55662343
I have no idea how she correlated those things just because she's having tech scuffs and how it's related to advent debut. Seems like their success is rent-free in her mind

>> No.55662398

>no arguments to refute the fact that Hololivers don't get paid as said in the financial report
Holosisters, it's time to stop coping and face the facts. Hololive is all freelancing now. No salary, no pay.

>> No.55662402

>>55661750
>which indicates the metrics they care about would not be affected
Yeah, but thats not the one >We care about

>> No.55662401

>>55662353
>>55662272
Isn't this one straight from the NijiCOEP list? Something something "Lie lie lie like your life depend on it, until it become "truth""

>> No.55662403

>>55662353
so is this guy just going to keep banging on about holos don't get paid based off one post he read on 4chan?

>> No.55662417

>>55662189
She's just annoying and loud, but pretty harmless

>> No.55662424

That one nijinig really hates Gura, huh?

>> No.55662432

>>55660612
Not bad, despite what this thread will tell you it's good to mix buffs and debuffs/neutrals.

>> No.55662439

>>55661004
>Kronii was mogging the entire fucking company
>Only 7 Streams, barely 8k above Pekora's 30k with 35 streams
You don't know what mogging means, ENshart.

>> No.55662441

>>55662388
Mori at least pretends to be my friend so her

>> No.55662443

>>55659510
Kino

>> No.55662457

>>55662297
I started out at a clip watcher who liked Kiara, then I watched her streams and started disliking her, then I came here and now I just kind of feel bad for her.

>> No.55662473

>>55662171
Where ever the shart gets mogged

>> No.55662479

>hold 4k
>offline
>4k again
>offiline
kiara, just give up this gta shiy

>> No.55662484

>>55662373
>random sister makes retarded claim
Did you mean this: >>55660970
How is it regarded?

>> No.55662488

>>55662369
Lmao that is hilarious. Holofags deserve the rope with their double standards

>> No.55662489
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55662489

You know what to do

>> No.55662493

>>55662385
this is basically what I mean by >>55662297
People hate Kiara for mostly unrelated reasons way back when and now newfags think that hating kiara is just what we do around here

>> No.55662499

>>55662403
Can you at least refute his claims? So that you don't get threads about this?

>> No.55662500

>>55662189
I don't
My general rule is that if they don't harm Pekora there's no reason to hate them. Except Nijinigger really try their damn hardest to make me hate Miko for no good reason

>> No.55662502
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55662502

>>55662424
She's alone mogging the entire branch of NijiEN

>> No.55662507

JUST FUCKING DIE ALREADY HOLOKEKS

>> No.55662520

So why is this retard sperging about Cover giving no salary when we have Mumei talking about her big fat paycheck? Do we have a newfag nijinig on our midst?

>> No.55662522

>>55662473
By who? I don't see other companies competing with her

>> No.55662543

>>55662499
can you not talk in third person?

>> No.55662547

>>55662424
Nah we all hate Gura here. Pedobait bitch and her fans are disgusting

>> No.55662567

>>55662499
Anon, how the fuck is it possible to refute a claim based on absolutely nothing but the voices in his head
>Hololive don't get paid
>No proof, just the voices

>> No.55662574

>>55662488
Dude read>>55661578
This implies Hololive livers aren't even paid at all

>> No.55662579

>>55661549
While her being frank is admirable in a way. She should learn when to shut up a lot of times. And I mean a lot.

>> No.55662580

>>55662484
No it's the one who say Holo doesn't have salary anymore because "No one talk about it"
If you use this argument in real life no one would take you seriously, except this thread

>> No.55662586

NijiSisters are getting uppity again. Maybe watamage will soon bless us with another Luxiem graduation announcement.

>> No.55662589

>>55662439
Sometimes I think you people just randomly lash out without understanding context

>> No.55662595

>>55662520
It's literally the nijinigger thinking that if he spams it often enough people will actually believe it
but he forgot the bit about not seeming genuinely retarded

>> No.55662612

>>55662522
Pekora mogs her everyday EN shart

>> No.55662615
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55662615

>>55662547
Oh nyo

>> No.55662617
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55662617

>>55662547

>> No.55662616

KIARA HAVING A MENHERA MOMENT TUNE IN EVERYONE GIVE HER THE MENHERA CCV

>> No.55662644

>>55662574
No it doesn't
>I didn't hear anyone talking about X so X doesn't exist anymore
is not even an argument, let alone proof for anything

>> No.55662656

>nopaylive
kek lol oh no no

>> No.55662660

>>55662369
Kek. I didn't expect that many replies and all of them were disagreeing with you with such confidence too. pfft

>> No.55662669

>>55662520
I doubt it's a newfag. He knows he's wrong but he also knows that acting like a retard will get him (You)s, either from his false-flagging friends or the weak willed retards from here who refuse to ignore baits.

>> No.55662670

>>55662547
Mysta is graduating lol

>> No.55662671

What the fuck is going on. It's been more than a year since I witnessed a niji spergout about literally nothing but fabricated nonsense like this. Did some schizo come back?

>> No.55662672
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55662672

>>55662507
Seethe HAHAHAHAHA

>> No.55662685

>>55662489
Your twindog will be a JP in no time

>> No.55662690

>>55659510
>following an old witch from another land
Watamage?

>> No.55662693
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55662693

>>55662574
She seem more optimistic about this team than her Yellow team
I like it when Pekora do this

>> No.55662695

>>55662612
>HOLO VS HOLO
Nijinogs please

>> No.55662699

Fucking hell Nijisisters are going on a rampage because they can't believe that Cover are actualyl paying their Holos well.

Why are you guys a fan of Kurosanji and not of their Vtubers? Shouldn't you guys actually complain to KuroKara in regards to that?

>> No.55662700

>>55662616
>Watching a niji
Nah ill laugh at the clips

>> No.55662702
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55662702

SHARK CUNNY SEGGS

>> No.55662709
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55662709

>>55662586
choose one HoloChad, the male or the female? And I will grant your wish

>> No.55662722

>>55662671
I think the #cut4hex spam actually minbroke her

>> No.55662728

IMAGINE
>This board
>But with flags and ids

>> No.55662726

>>55662388
Bae, Kiara and mori are runts. Of course no one stick around after the raid. It's like pekora raiding roboco valorant.

>> No.55662736

>>55662616
If she stop complaining, I might think about it. I still have half a day ahead, don't want to drag my mood down for nothing

>> No.55662738

>>55662336
>Tranny
You need to be 18 or older to post here
Also
>>55662359
>We love numbers
>Lose their shit when Gura gets shat on by the newbies
>We LoVe NuMbErS

>> No.55662743

>>55662616
>she ragequit
I wanted tears but this will do

>> No.55662745

>nopaylive

>> No.55662750

>>55662520
>Do we have a newfag nijinig on our midst?
Well I mean we do get those from time to time.

>> No.55662791

Stop responding to really lazy obvious bait, you're shitting up the thread with your responses more than the bait guy is at this point.

>> No.55662809

>>55662700
why are nijiniggers like this?

>> No.55662813

>>55662520
>when we have Mumei talking about her big fat paycheck?
timestamp?

>> No.55662815
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55662815

HOLOLIVE DON'T GET PAID BECAUSE NOBODY TALKED ABOUT THEIR SALAR-
>JAZZ MUSIC STOPS!

OH NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHA LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD
>Kiara Is Worried About The Yen Value Because Her Salary Is In Yen (3 weeks ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U56YJQYBBoY

FROM RRAT TO BTFO IN LESS THAN 5 MINUTES!

>> No.55662820

>>55662699
>Cover are actually paying their Holos well
And other lies Holofags tell themselves since they're not being paid any salary at all KEK

>> No.55662826

>>55662671
It was so obviously retarded that I believe it must have been a falseflagging phasecuck instead

>> No.55662827

>>55662743
>>55662736
nah shes still struggling, the goxlr muted her when she started ranting about support for it being discontinued

>> No.55662838

>>55662671
Numbers is fucked in general. Nothing makes any sense anymore. No one agrees on anything, and the opinion on raids is all over the place.

>> No.55662841

>>55662728
All indog flags

>> No.55662845

>55662693
Oh wait, it's just a bot flailing randomly.

>> No.55662853

>>55661420
So at minimum every single holo makes at least 6 figure salaries?

>> No.55662858

>>55662671
Look, they are out of materials ok, now they have to make their own

>> No.55662863

jwu and saw clips of the indog event why did gura do it

>> No.55662873

>>55662728
what's stopping the board from doing so?

>> No.55662886

>>55662826
you say that like we didn't get "Selling out a venue means you lose money" from a nijinigger, which is probably the same nijinigger now actualyl

>> No.55662888
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55662888

>>55662690
Another witch

>> No.55662893

What happened to all of HoloENs viewers? Gura, our flagship, is like ~15k ccv while Aqua, Marine and Peko are doubling that shit

>> No.55662896

>>55662863
it was funny

>> No.55662897

>>55661953
I'm just saying that nobody has mentioned a salary in years and the last time it was mentioned it was below minimum wage. JP minimum wage right now is 961 JPY per hour. That was the number after they raised minimum wage in 2021.
That's under $7 an hour, it's 6.70 USD before taxes. If we assume that they're still salaried and raised it slightly to maintain the "below minimum wage" figure we can go with something like 6.50 to be generous. You stream for 4 hours, you make $26 USD before taxes. That's not even enough to sneeze at. You get a single red usd superchat and you're making more than what you'd make for that entire stream if you were salaried. On average if you get 1k ad views on average you get $18 and even if hololive splits that number in half, even people like Mori can still rake in 100k vod viewers.

If you were working for hololive you wouldn't even realize it disappeared because between members, merch, superchats and vod views, there's literally no reason why you would salary the people when they're making quadruple that per stream, minimum.

>> No.55662907

>>55662838
I think it's better this way.

>> No.55662916

>>55662369
KARMA IS REAL !!

>> No.55662926

>>55662809
Fuck off kfp

>> No.55662957

Has cover ever openly released the numbers for a SPWN stream before?

>> No.55662960

>>55662926
so you can turn this place into your schizo playground? Not a chance schizoboy

>> No.55662988

>>55662826
This nigger's posting style is classic Luxiem era "HOLOKEKS KEKZAA KEKEKEKE" shit. Phaseshits weren't relevant then

>> No.55662994
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55662994

>>55662897
>I'm just saying that nobody has mentioned a salary in years
Anon, here is Kiara mentioning her salary THREE WEEKS AGO
>Kiara Is Worried About The Yen Value Because Her Salary Is In Yen (3 weeks ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U56YJQYBBoY

>> No.55663004

>>55662893
EN viewers are underage and they only watch minecraft

>> No.55663018

Sisters discord raiding?

>> No.55663027

>>55660126
Graduate all whores

>> No.55663030

wtf is this
>Holos don't get paid anymore
shit? Kiara was krying for the yen to get better for her salary a few weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U56YJQYBBoY

>> No.55663031

>>55662897
Fuck off, retard.

>> No.55663035

>>55662853
>At least 6 figure salaries?
No. At minimum their least popular Vtubers have 4-figure salaries. The big ones are for sure 6-figures easy.

>> No.55663041
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55663041

They're getting bolder ...

>> No.55663043

>>55662960
Nobody here likes Kiara KFPtranny, go off yourself.

>> No.55663045

>>55662193
they spend like nothing on the homos since most merch is made to order and that's where majority of the investment would go

>> No.55663046

>>55662813
It was during her SC reading a couple day ago I think, she was talking about how she has money but has no idea what to spend it on because she hates buying expensive things. I don't have a timestamp because it was a 6 hours stream though.

>> No.55663050

>>55662500
>Nijinigger

>> No.55663052

>>55662369
And the nijinigger reveals himself at last

>> No.55663064
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55663064

>>55662369
Milliemage continues to expose holokeks

>> No.55663063
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55663063

MOGGED!

>> No.55663066

>>55663018
Looks like it. Something got them upset again.

>> No.55663069

>>55662960
go cheer for the next collab with pomu while homobegging on twitter, holy shit the worst fanbase of EN bar none

>> No.55663071

>>55662897
There's no indication they don't get the basic salary anymore. There's not much reason for anyone to talk about it one way or another because like you said, it's fairly insignificant. Until someone says they don't get it anymore, I have no reason to believe they don't.

>> No.55663072

>>55662827
Her goxlr is dying, thing is such a piece of shit that even the makers tell people not to buy it.

>> No.55663073

>>55662488
>>55662660
>>55662916
Stop fucking samefagging, whatever bait you're trying to use doesn't even make sense because Kiara made no drama tweet or statement about management, what the fuck is wrong with you? We can all tell its the same person since no one else can figure out what you're trying to say, let alone agree with it.

>> No.55663088

>>55663043
not your schizobox, seethe about it

>> No.55663089

>>55663027
BAUSED

>> No.55663095

>>55661062
thats some tempus tier retention lol

>> No.55663110

>>55660966
sort by oldest, his old clips are pretty much ALL Roboco

>> No.55663136

>>55663064
By graduating more niji livers? doesn't seem like a good start

>> No.55663142
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55663142

>>55662574
>Hololive livers
I see sister, you are actually coping by making a headcanon yourself and linking your own posts to your delusions. Pathetic to say the least.

>> No.55663146

>>55663063
Ii desu ne

>> No.55663151

>>55662206
>IF I PUT IT IN ALL CAPS I WILL BE RIGHT!!

>> No.55663152

>>55662838
Eh, on the raid point, there have always been a faction that is very anti-raid, but the majority of the thread just shrugged and didn't worry about it. Except now that there's a new HoloEN gen and they raid CONSTANTLY, someone decided to flip the fuck out about it again. Honestly the tally won't change, so I'm not sure why they insist on spilling their sphaget all over the place over it.

>> No.55663158

>>55663073
that guy thinks >>55663043 and >>55663069 actually blend in well and don't stick out like a sore thumb

>> No.55663157

>>55662206
Where?

>> No.55663161

>>55663072
instead of getting something else, she'll keep using it and whining, this isn't even the first time she's had issues with it
she is fucking retarded and a horrible streamer

>> No.55663165

>>55662994
I'm not sure her definition of salary is the same as yours. She most likely meant the monthly amount she gets paid per month from YouTube/Hololive.
Not an actual salarysalary like to them, that is technically a salary. It's the monthly amount they get paid from superchats, membership, merch and etc.

>> No.55663169

>>55662994
Hololive members use the term salary for the the basic stipend thing they get and their entire check (all YT earnings + merch cut ect). That makes it confusing to understand what they're talking about.

>> No.55663173

>>55659657
Aren't most of her shorts and videos just safety blankets for nousagi when she can't stream? Looking at the dates most of her shorts were spammed during her break and the education videos are exclusively posted when she is not streaming.

>> No.55663177

>>55662726
>Of course no one stick around after the raid
that's not what we see with Mori tho

>> No.55663190
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55663190

>>55662489
JOPs Deployed

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55663199

>>55662815
>0.0063 vs 0.0080
if she's earning around 5 mil yen per month, then she's losing around 8k eu when compared to 2022... ouch

>> No.55663218

>>55663063
All the nips on the replies being grateful for all the JP votes kek

>> No.55663219

>>55663072
Huh, what a coincidence. I think Fauna and IRyS also talked about it last night and they said GoXLR is something only HoloEN uses. HoloJP doesn't.

>> No.55663256

>>55663161
Ame keeps recommending it and she just gets whatever Ame tells her to buy.

>> No.55663264

>>55663073
Look at the amount of celebration at Kiara's misfortune in this thread anon and that too for just a raid. Do you expect us to believe you people will support and believe her if she complains against management like Selen did.
No you people will continue to laugh at her and say 'get fucked chickenshit'. The proof is right here in this thread hypocrite holokek.

>> No.55663265

>>55662574
*Hololivers

>> No.55663270

>>55662424
>That one
Anon, pretty much all Niji(CN)nigs hate Gura. Just a quick glance at Vox's chat when he said Gura was the only real mainstream western vtuber is enough to reach that conclusion.

>> No.55663272

>Euro hours
>Thread is shit
like clockwork

>> No.55663281

>>55661867
why does icomochi draw Mococo with breasts? I don't get it.

>> No.55663288

>>55663063
Good

>> No.55663293

>>55663199
Anon, you are as financially retarded as an average woman without a bachelor degree

>> No.55663303
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55663303

>HOLOLIVE BOARD
>HOLOLIVE THREAD

>> No.55663305

>click FWMC poll
>EOPs all asking for JP dub
>JOPs all asking for EN dub

>> No.55663309

>>55663219
Please please please, let this be the END of the shitty goxlr usage by HoloEN.

>> No.55663310

>>55663158
I dont give a fuck about your paranoid soergs, k-kiara is totally liked i swear, no kfp go back to global instead of shitting the place

>> No.55663325

>>55663072
Huh, could've sworn she got rid of their goxlr a long time ago
Or maybe that was another holo

>> No.55663334

>>55663199
>this couldn't happen when I was whaling gachas
sad... big sad...

>> No.55663336

>>55663165
>the definition of salary
are nijiniggers serious right now
so you make the assertion that they have no salary at all based on nothing but "they haven't mentioned it in years", get shown they have, then say its not the "same" salary? Like what the fuck?

>> No.55663338

>>55663310
See I told you it's a nijinigger

>> No.55663350

>>55663165
>>55663169
kek, nice goalpost move
>I'm just saying that nobody has mentioned a salary in years
to
>When she says "salary" she means "something else except her salary"

>> No.55663354

>>55659510
The best content to come out of Tempus and it's fucking isekai

>> No.55663376

>>55663219
Didn't Ame start it all?

>> No.55663409

>>55663264
Insane post by insane person. Comparing apples to chickens

>> No.55663413

>>55663310
hey remember when we asked what you gave a fuck about?

>> No.55663419

>>55663256
that was years ago, now she knows it doesn't work yet refuses to replace it knowing it's broken

>> No.55663423

>>55663376
She was basically hard shilling that mixer to EN

>> No.55663428

>>55663338
And the holokek reveals himself

>> No.55663434

>>55663305
>EOP know how shit the EN dub is
>JOP want to try and learn english?

>> No.55663436

>>55663264
The fuck are you talking about, it's kiara with a shit stream, not her talking shit on Cover. Your ESL retards need basic comprehension.

>> No.55663439
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55663439

>>55663336
First time seeing goalpost moving?
Stay around, you'll see a whole lot more.

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55663455

>>55663264

>> No.55663472
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55663472

>>55662728
>Using a VPN
>Larping as a pagpag all day along
Easy.

>> No.55663477

>>55663309
Ame was the one who recommended goxlr to them all, right?
Debuffson tax still in effect

>> No.55663481

>>55663350
I think you're arguing with multiple people at once and confusing yourself.

>> No.55663491

Kiara just blew out the ears of KFP and any poor ruffian that was trying out kiara for the first time

>> No.55663489

>>55663428
>he says, in the hololive thread

>> No.55663497

>>55663338
>I-it's nijiniggers
No bitch its kiara she dont get the same treatment, go back to your hugbox if you dont like it

>> No.55663514

>>55663293
5,000,000 x 0.0063 = 31,500 EU (or to be exact 31,750 using Google because ''decimals'') (now)
5,000,000 x 0.0080 = 40,000 EU (in March 2022 as seen on the graph)

anon... you are worse than Gura in Math

>> No.55663519

>>55663264
To be fair, nobody likes Kiara, you should use a different member for that comparison.

>> No.55663523

>>55663152
My position is that it would be wrong say that Gura has overall lost in numbers to Shiori from the start of EN3, because the raids are viewers from other EN3 channels. This may upset people, but it’s a rational position to take. If you disagree, this place is actually fucked.

>> No.55663537

>>55663491
Ruffians left a long time ago.

>> No.55663541

>>55663434
Same reason why weebs will never admit when a JP dub is bad: they can't understand it anyway.

>> No.55663546

>>55663491
theres a reason Ruffians have overlap with chumbies, takos, saplings, and pebbles but not KFP lmao

>> No.55663551

>>55663477
Yes, and it's resulted in them using that shit for the april fools voice thing instead of giving them a shot at using their ACTUAL voice. I hate it. It's horrible-sounding and a piece of garbage.

>> No.55663562

>>55663497
What's the matter? Upset that you didn't find a group of your buddies happy to jerk you off over how much you hate kiara?

>> No.55663565

>>55663264
Don't bother. I am pretty sure she will complain about something management did soon and we will see the reactions in this thread. Until then just grudge post these replies.

>> No.55663587

Kiara is crying

>> No.55663608

>>55663219
It's an EN streaming thing in general. I was watching some random 4view guy the other day on twitch and even he had a goxlr

>> No.55663615

Is Kiara's sound only fucked in relation to GTA or will it be fucked tonight too?

>> No.55663616

>>55663587
why?

>> No.55663625

>>55663562
>>55663587

>> No.55663629

>>55663587
Lies
I'm waiting for her to cry but she's just being a bitch

>> No.55663630
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55663630

>4k after the raid bled out
>Game crashes
>Back to 4k
>GoXLR crashes
>Back to 4k
Well, if anything, those KFP at least are loyal.

>> No.55663634

>>55663519
>>55663565
totally organic Kiara seethe there huh?

>> No.55663646

>>55663063
Honestly it's been a long ass while since JPs are mogging EN streams that hard. The twins were really a good move from Cover.

>> No.55663649

>>55663514
Anon, it's not as simple as that, as the change in currencies means the INCOMING money isn't the same either. USD for merch is going to convert into higher amounts of Yen for example, which would offset this.

>> No.55663676

>>55663630
she actually went from 2k to 7k so some of those numbers came from the raid

>> No.55663701

>>55663514
This is basically what I meant >>55663649

>> No.55663708

>>55663629
yea please let those waterworks fly
she's just being bitchy and killing everyone's ears with her screeches

>> No.55663721

>>55663587
You bitch, you think Kiara will cry? she will likely throw that device if anything

>> No.55663723

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGWeSfeKhhI
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.55663725

>>55663541
Fair, there are no doubt many Japanese dubs that are mid, but since EOP can't understand shit, it all sounds better to them than a bad EN dub.

>> No.55663726

>>55663519
Exactly nobody in NijiEN like selen just like nobody here likes Kiara. That's why we were shitting on her not because we like to kiss anycolor's ass but you guys twisted that into nijiEN fanbase hates their talents and just ass kiss the company. If Shu made that tweet, we would support Shu and not anycolor

>> No.55663730

>>55663472
Would still be an improvement
I have no idea why anyone outside of SEA would wanna larp as them, but they already have a shit reputation, so I don't see the downside

>> No.55663731

>>55663676
she unironically always get ~4k playing gta iv

>> No.55663741

>>55663630
KFP love watching Kiara suffer, it's part of the appeal.

>> No.55663761

>>55663630
I boggles my mind with that money these girls make they don't take any time to have proper setups and back-ups. Jesus it's so frustrating

>> No.55663768

>>55663634
it might be the most organic kiara seethe ever since her current stream is a complete shitshow with nothing working

>> No.55663775

>>55663676
Not sure about that, she usually takes an hour or two or climb up to 4k. I assume people getting back from work or people watching the usual IDs/JPs streaming at this hour tabbing in when they stop.

>> No.55663789

Vesper made a few Tier 4 members posts today. Comeback could be soon. No word on Magni yet.

>> No.55663793

>>55663708
>>55663721
Make it less obvious

>> No.55663800

>>55663523
Obviously no one posting in good faith would disagree with that. But being totally anti raid because some people shitpost here about Gura is being reactionary. IMO the only concern for whether a raid is good or not is the viewer retention.

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