/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>55648017
> TOMORROW FOR SURE

It is better this way desu. Keep his trannies and sisters at bay and they will leave eventually, THEN fire him.

>>55648017
they don't have to announce anything, eventually people will just forget he existed

>>55648017
Suspended for repeated internal misconduct and then over one months suspension and counting right as he had his redesign, fucked the anniversary plans and merch, fucked the reputation of StarsEN EVEN more. All in under one year.

If he somehow manages to come back from this he will be on such a short leash I doubt it will be long before he blows up at a manager again. I say this with total sincerity, if you are an actual stars fan who likes them for more than the "unhinged" squad collabs and homobegging you are better off without him.

It would be funny if this not-suspension went on for years and cover just didn't acknowledge it ever.

Keep seething at """unicorn""" and anti-ing Hololive sisters, surely you are helping him getting back to activity

>>55648017
They probably forgot to tweet about it. Easy to forget when you've just realised the best vtubing gen since myth.>>55648017

>>55648017
He's dead. Magni murdered him.

>>55648017
It's been a month already?
Haachama is dead way longer than that yet she's still more talked about than this fag, sisters really jump ships fast

>>55648017
Retarded JP management decided that Shiori executing him and Magni live on stream and eating their still-beating hearts counts as a collab, so they have to wait for the Advent collab ban to end.

>>55648017
Instead of termination they are just going to keep him on infinite suspension until he resigns.

>>55648017
He was selected by the DOD to infiltrate and destroy the Russian state. He'll be back when the mission is over.

>>55648017
Because he won't be

>>55648017
I hate cover management so much. There's no reason to mini-grad Vesper twice. Idc what he may have said or done. He's the only one worth watching. It's a bunch of bullshit. Also Yagoo put my X-two-favorite members (shitty)plushie versions on his tiny green cock in that picture on twitter. Disgusting.

Why would they want to come back after this? They fucked up their anniversary, were embarrassingly suspended for a month right after getting their "outfits" and missed the biggest sc bait besides birthdays. That's a lot of money and time down the drain.

>>55648017
I just hope he can come back so that he can play Xcom. We need at least one Holomem who will play Xcom.

>>55648084
>"Not tomorrow, Today!"
-mococo

out of curiosity, whats a reasonable amount of time for someone to move state in america?
let's say you lived in texas and it suddenly became apparent that your life was in danger and you needed to leave post-haste, preferably out of state. how long would it take to get your stuff together, find a new place to live, say goodbyes to family, actually move and then deal with all the paperwork involved with setting up life in a new area?

>>55648855
The dude broke the #1 rule in Male Vtubing.

No collabing with females.

>>55648017
learn English esl kun

>>55649758
Me personally? About a week

>>55648017
You know what? Don't terminate him. Just leave him in limbo. The sisters suffer more that way.

>>55649474
You don't think Cover wanted their cut of that dosh?

>>55649882
okay, and what if you were a menhera autist off his meds?

>>55649987
No idea, I'm a man, we dont get mental issues

>>55649831
Yea looking at the majority of them I don't think that's a rule.

>>55649028
Calling you a retard certainly doesn't hurt him coming back lmao

>>55648017
Pako is a fucking curse, fuck that guy

>>55649831
Nah it was his actions related to that though.
Imagine making a t4 members post specifically saying you wanted to do more female collabs to upset the weirdos.
Imagine biting bait in your own chat constantly to the point where you start calling trolls "pet incels" and tell them you are going after their oshi next instead of just banning them.
Imagine being aware raiding Kiara out of the blue was going to piss people off and doing it anyway because "they can kiss my ass"

This all from the supposedly harmless wise old man. Least professional tempus member by virtue of making it so fucking obvious he gets his kicks from riling up schizos without considering the girls. And that's not even getting into the problems the sisters have had with his behaviour.
Magni by comparison has done nothing wrong aside from being close with Mori.

>>55648932
The more I think about it the more plausible it sounds. Everyone gets off scot-free.

>>55648017
Vesper got Steven Kubacki'd, he will show up again in a year

What could Magni have possibly done?

>>55651252
I think Magni is the main reason Cover doesn't know what do to. Vesper's was a repeated infraction, his was the first, they decide to suspend Magni and fire Vesper, but he says he's not coming back without Vesper. Either both or he's also out. Cover needs to decide what to do, so they just keep them under indefinite suspension hoping he'll change his mind, but at this point it's apparent he won't.

>>55649474
>Why would they want to come back after this?
Are you seriously asking why they would stay at a job that's literally free money?

>>55648855
>fucked the anniversary plans and merch, fucked the reputation of StarsEN EVEN more. All in under one year.
He did our work for us.

>>55651530
What is this fanfiction?

>>55649160
weird, his RM is still free to roam twitch

I can't believe he only streamed with his new model ONCE

>>55651759
He said on stream that Vesper is different from anyone else he met in holopro, that he likes all of them, but Vesper is "a friend for life". Any other "Vesper is dying, Vesper is moving" or any other rrat fails to contemplate Magni. Anything so bad they could have done together that would result in Magni being fired even without prior suspensions surely would be bad enough for them to be fired sooner, without this nonsensical wait, and a regular suspension is already too long at this stage.
They're hung up on something they can't quite decide. This is what's keeping them. I've seen it in a dream.

You know, it's funny how it's been about a month and I still have yet to see anything convincing for why they would be suspended or terminated kek

>>55652257
That much is normal if it's an internal matter. First time he was suspended the only thing he said was "I lost my temper", and he said he got permission from management to say even that, so Cover doesn't like airing their dirty laundry.

>>55648017
I support never-ending suspensions for both of them. If they're let go, the sisters might cry for a week or two, but that's it. As long as they're suspended, I can keep reminding the sisters that two of their favourite faggots are still in a limbo, and all they can do is call me an "incel". That is a form of joy for me that money can't buy.

>>55648017
Advent still haven't opened memberships yet

>>55652325
First time they announced a reason and a duration. They always announce reasons for suspensions and terminations

>>55652540
Every other suspension/termination has been announced by the JP corporate account first and translated to english, including Vespers first suspension.
This one was ONLY announced on the EN holopro twitter. I don't know what that means but there is no point holding onto prior protocol because it's uncharted territory for two talents to be MIA for over one month with the only notice coming from the EN side.

>>55648017
they just dont want to stain advent and their fresh start. these trashy socially inept homos are absolutely irrelevant for almost all holo fans but still vocal minority troons go apeshit over it and slander hololive. they know it.

>>55652963
>there is no point holding onto prior protocol
Sounds pretty safe to say it's not a suspension

>>55648017
Its because Cover isn't a black company that shits intself and throws shade on Twitter. Shit like this is a quiet affair at Cover if it can be. Likely waiting on confirmation from JP side. Either way, I love watching you homobeggers cry

>>55653103
Except for the fact that there have been no strong rrats to suggest otherwise, either. It's a Schrodinger's suspension.

>>55653103
What is it then

>>55651105
proof at least pick from t4 mem or didnt happen

>>55653219
>there have been no strong rrats to suggest otherwise, either
Besides this being handled completely differently from everything we're seen in the past? They weren't even like this with Chris.
>>55653391
Not a suspension

>>55648017
Tick, tock

>>55654010
>Besides this being handled completely differently from everything we're seen in the past

And how is that supposed to be an argument against the likelihood of it being a suspension? You can't even answer the question aside from repeating "not a suspension". If you insist on being deliberately obtuse, then I'll just leave you to your little game.

>>55654908
NTA but is cover doing stealth suspensions now then? Thats really the only way it could be a suspension and thats not really a good thing.

>>55654908
Don't mind the sisters. It's just their way of coping. That and accusing others of being incels.

>>55654908
>And how is that supposed to be an argument against the likelihood of it being a suspension?
>Be Cover
>Always announce suspensions
>Always announce reasons
>High profile talents like Rushia and talents they want to disappear like Chris treated the same
>Magni and Vesper are treated completely differently
>Be you
>"This must be the same situation!"
Are you positive I'm the obtuse one? There's every reason to believe it's not a suspension or termination, yet all you can point to is "they're not around so it must be a suspension!"

>>55655301
Why weren’t they in the starter voice and why was first anniversary merch postponed

After he comes back they should funnel a lot of collabs with girls on his channel, so that he can catch up in numbers.

Explain why Mag-chan is going back to stream with his roommate account, sisters.

>>55655356
>Why weren't they in the starter pack?
Well if it's something like a contract dispute, why would they be in it?
>why was first anniversary merch postponed?
Because the anniversary was postponed. Why would they postpone the anniversary if Magni and Vesper have already graduated/been terminated behind the scenes?

>>55655521
>Why would they postpone the anniversary if Magni and Vesper have already graduated/been terminated behind the scenes?
Because they haven’t announced it yet

Chances are he's fine and he's dying with laughter over this place's reaction to the suspension. He'll come back stronger than before.

>>55648017
You can't just terminate an elder vampire willy-nilly, they have to do all sorts of wacky rituals.

>>55655491
Link? Just do it quick I am faster than the jannies

He'll be back chudceps just you wait. I have been cutting for vesper daily

>>55655584
Which makes no sense because they would've announced it beforehand.

Thread has devolved into semantics. The main takeaway is that they had been made to cease their activities as HoloPro talents due to something very serious. And things are not looking good for them, at all. Call it whatever you want ; a suspension, a mandatory break, a dispute, security concerns. Whatever. All roads lead to Rome, at this point

"Oh, they were not killed. They simply had their life-force removed from their bodies".

>>55651105
>Imagine making a t4 members post specifically saying you wanted to do more female collabs to upset the weirdos.
this literally never happened
>magine biting bait in your own chat constantly to the point where you start calling trolls "pet incels" and tell them you are going after their oshi next instead of just banning them.
He never called that person an incel, and why shouldn't he fuck with someone trying to start shit in his chat?
>Imagine being aware raiding Kiara out of the blue was going to piss people off and doing it anyway because "they can kiss my ass"
you can only raid people who have given you permission to raid them on youtube, so if he was able to raid Kiara, either Kiara or a manager who works with Kiara gave vesper permission to raid her channel. The only people who would get upset about two people in the same company sending viewers to one another are literal insane people.

>>55655491
Anon, if you watched those streams you'd know there is nothing to worry about when it comes to him... Now Vesper on the other hand...

>>55656028
Except "suspension," "mandatory break," and "dispute" are all very different things, unlike "killed" and "life-force removed from their bodies"

>>55649831
>No collabing with females.
Female collabs are fine, just not holos simple as. Just look at Astel and Roberu they got from 3 view to 4 view by collab with female indies and outside of holopro.

Is Cover a black company? Are they Zaion Lanzaing them?

>>55656204
>>55656028
>can't survive having your life force removed from body
ngmi

>>55649172
People are spaming him 24/7 when the fat menhera was contained in the general.

>>55656204
We're not in North Korea and I'm not going to stop you from being pedantic. With all the writing on the wall, what matters to me is the obvious and inevitable outcome. Facts don't care about anyone's feelings, after all.

>>55656772
At this point i just think anons are making this threads just so sisters would talk to them. kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHqCuVrrePo

>it's not a suspension
>They just got locked out of their accounts by Cover
>>55656142
That did not answer my question. Why did Mag-chan stream on his alt instead of going back ?

>>55656791
I'm assuming you must be ESL is you think those words mean the same thing at all. I'll help you
>Suspension: cease of activities as a form of punishment
>Mandatory break: cease of activities for reasons management deems necessary, ie preventing talents with covid from streaming
>Dispute: The current contract has ended and therefore the worker cannot work until a new contract is established
That's no where near the retardation of "I didn't kill them, I ended their life!"

>>55656028
couldn't you interpret ejaculation as "Their life-force removed from their bodies"?

Obviously they are gonna memory hole all of tempus, it'll take a fair bit of time but by 2025 no one will remember them besides sisters.

>>55648017
It's pretty hard to find a tasteful way of firing someone who killed themselves.
They're just trying to figure out how to tell the fans and the other talents. Magni already knows, which is why he didn't stream on his holoacc or alt for over a month.

>>55657688
why would they need to fire someone who killed themselves?
Wouldn't they just say they died and hold a memorial for them?
Firing them would just be bad PR at that point.

>>55657868
OP asked why he hasn't been terminated yet.
Just saying that firing a dead guy isn't really something you do.
They'll probably hold a memorial soon. They might be waiting for permission from his parents to announce it. Which will probably take some time, since they don't know what he does.

>>55656084
>you can only raid people who have given you permission to raid them on youtube

I dunno about the rest but that is wrong, you can allow or not raids as a whole and there's a blacklist for people you don't want raiding you. Kiara had it to "allow", there was no permission of any kind going there because the feature simple doesn't work as you said.

>>55650106
>I'm a man, we dont get mental issues
Counterpoint: You're on /vt/

>>55656084
>Literally never happened
https://www.youtube.com/live/9buvfAmsTO0?feature=share&t=2795
From that same vod you can see comments from members calling him out for his behaviour including that members post. I will reply to you again with a picture of that

>>55656084
>>55658287

>>55658287
Based anon exposing the MANhera and saved for later shitposting.

>>55658287
what did he mean by the second sentence

>>55658287
>I'm going to keep doing what I want to do and don't care if I annoy weirdos
So where does it "SPECIFICALLY" say he wants to do more female collabs, he literally just said he doesn't care what his haters think of him and won't let them prevent him from doing what he wants to do.
>>55658415
>Claims his fans are the one making the disappointed comment
>Non of them have a membership mark
sure buddy

>>55659107
Anon you claimed he didn't make a post about owning the haters by doing more female collabs, not only did he do that but if you listen to the timestamp I linked he makes it pretty fucking obvious where his headspace was at the time he made that post.
The funny thing is it was his own t3 100 dollar members leaking this shit because they were seething at him ignoring the boys whilst making time for any collabs with the girls he was invited to.
>What are expired memberships

>>55648017
They want him to announce his graduation and do a few final streams before calling it quits, but he probably fucked off completely and they're trying to decide if they should just terminate him or wait a bit longer.

>>55658646
Pretty sure he means containment breakers spamming his chat

>>55648115
>they will leave eventually
When, I've been waiting so long

>>55657379
You can scapegoat ESL/SEA/whatever other demographics all you want. In fact, it's ironic, because you're either illiterate or did not learn English beyond 3rd grade. I specifically mentioned the idiom "All roads lead to Rome", meaning it doesn't matter what you call it ; They were *made* to stop their activities over something serious. the outcome will not be a positive one.

And then you chose to sperg out with semantics, because that's all you had. You've got nothing of substance to offer besides repeating "not a suspension" like a parrot. You're way too desperate to downplay the gravity of the situation, with little to show for it. Just like the clown in this picture. And the analogy at the end of my post was meant to illustrate how stupid semantics can be. It doesn't matter whether the person was killed or had their life force removed. They're dead. That's the main point. I never said anything about someone killing them and then claiming they "merely" ended their life. There's a quite a bit of difference between these two analogies, yet a so-called native speaker like you couldn't even pick it up. So which ESL shithole are you from, then?

>>55659543
being open to more female collabs =/= specifically going out and asking for collabs. and they've said from the start all hololive x holostar collabs on EN have been initiated by the girls so if they have more girl collabs it's the girls asking. Also it wasn't a $100 post, it was the $10 post.

>>55648017

If hes not dead or already terminated behind closed doors they are drawing this out as long as possible for all his misbehavior and all the hoops he made holo en jump thru. I would do the same if a cocksucker scammed me out of a new model only to shit the bed right after.

>>55658287
I will save this and us it for future threads.
This insufferable faggot can now stick his thumbs up his ass getting roaed for 3 years for all i care.

>>55657456
Well, the French do call orgasms "La petite mort", so you might be on to something.

2 more weeks

>>55659107
You're either an incorrigible goalpost shifter or a mentally-challenged reptile who can't read between the lines. What do you think he meant by "I'm just gonna keep doing what I feel like doing (a clear reference to the hot topic then, which was the intergender collabs)" and "I'm gonna ignore those weirdos (alluding to those who were against said collabs)", followed by "But I think annoying that other group might be pretty hilarious (clearly showing malicious intent)". Do you need us to explain it to you using sock puppets, over 2 hours, along with other special ed equipment?

>>55659916
Where does it even say that he's merely being "open to more female collabs"? He's clearly planning to deliberately do intergender collabs for the sake of antagonizing "the weirdos". You're bending over backwards to spin the narrative when solid evidence is already there.

>>55659916
Listen to the timestamp you disingenuous retard
https://www.youtube.com/live/9buvfAmsTO0?feature=share&t=2795
>Oh noo a monopoly rematch uwu
>Boomer vs zoomer 2 uwu
>Just make everybody mad

If you want to talk about someone who was simply open to collabs without feeling the need to deliberately antagonize people you might have a leg to stand on defending Magni. But Vesper is a menhera who gets his rocks off doing this shit and both that members post and the timestamp I linked make that pretty clear. Feel free to keep moving the goalposts to defend him.
>Also it wasn't a $100 post, it was the $10 post.
/MANS/ said differently at the time, and if you were aware the post existed why did you claim it didn't exist? Didn't think I would dig it up out of the archive?

>>55658287
I dont know how Tempus fans can even pretend he's still the sweet innocent grandpa that he was on debut. He's just too menhera to be a corporate streamer.

>>55659854
>All roads lead to Rome
Anon are you positive you understand what that means? The only outcome those these scenarios you mentioned is returning. I'm curious how you think negotiating a contract is a negative outcome like being suspended would be.
>Muh semantics
Words have meanings, anon, and the meaning of "semantics" is clearly one that's lost on you. Words with completely different meanings is not semantics.
>You've got nothing of substance to offer besides repeating "not a suspension" like a parrot
Lie again >>55655301 Now surely you have something of substance, yes? We wouldn't want you to keep repeating "semantics, semantics!" like a parrot, would we?
>It doesn't matter whether the person was killed or had their life force removed. They're dead.
Well then, since according to you not being allowed to stream counts as a suspension I guess Cover's been suspending talents left and right for having covid. Which, once again, would make this a nothingburger. You've lost.

>>55660668
You killed the homobeggar anon...

>>55657379
>>55659854
My guys, my self-sucking pseudo-intellectual anons... I think you're making the wrong assumptions about why people aren't in agreement with you. Let me add my own pseudo-intellectual armchair management take to the pile. It's not "their life force is removed" vs "they're dead", it's "they're not here right now" vs "they're dead". This is like basic object permanence. At the same time, Vesper and Magni aren't streaming. Their activities were stopped and it was announced by management, which is bizarre and out of the ordinary. Even if they're considered "suspended" there's nothing pointing to them receiving disciplinary action at the moment. It could swing either way, I have no investment because if a Cover employee wants to play stupid games, they can win stupid prizes. Likewise, if they need to be put on hiatus for something that's not under their control and isn't related to their own behavior there's no reason to jump to them being suddenly secretly disciplined. For someone to claim that either everything is fine with Magni and Vesper or they're being severely reprimanded/fired is asinine. It's okay to sit on the fence with this one and say "we don't have all the necessary information to come to a conclusion".

>>55660339
>read between the lines
the post said he specifically said it, not that you could interpret it as such. Words have clear meanings in English and it's not "goal post shifting" to call out someone saying misinformation. Vesper never specifically said what he claims he said. Showing malicious intent towards people who hate you isn't a bad thing either

>>55660668
I never said he didn't make a post, I said what you said his post said was INCORRECT. Which it was.

>>55648017
Just nuke this faggot already what are you waiting for? Who gives a flying fuck about the opinions of homo watchers.

>>55661067
Yeah that's what I told him earlier and he started crying saying that being suspended and negotiating your contract is "semantics" and are the same thing kek

>>55660748
>Anon are you positive you understand what that means? The only outcome those these scenarios you mentioned is returning. I'm curious how you think negotiating a contract is a negative outcome like being suspended would be.

Entering into negotiations, for which you have little leverage, and it being dragged for over a month, is not a positive sign. Cope more, I guess.

>Words have meanings, anon, and the meaning of "semantics" is clearly one that's lost on you. Words with completely different meanings is not semantics.

An overzealous emphasis on so-called meanings to avoid tackling the main issue at hand is exactly that : semantics.

>Lie again >>55655301 Now surely you have something of substance, yes? We wouldn't want you to keep repeating "semantics, semantics!" like a parrot, would we?

I call a spade, a spade. What you're doing is nothing but semantics. If that makes me a parrot, then I'll join you on your little perch. Because you've been evasive with almost every anons in this thread, including myself, giving non-answers to valid questions. "Oh, it's not a suspension even when all things point in that direction, because I say so!"

>Well then, since according to you not being allowed to stream counts as a suspension I guess Cover's been suspending talents left and right for having covid.

Non-sequitur. Covid cases were clearly spelled out in their announcements.

>Which, once again, would make this a nothingburger.

Thanks for making it clear cut : You're just one of those tempigs trying desperately to spin a positive narrative out of these circumstances. You could have just said so from the beginning, and I would have left you alone for the mental patient that you are.

>You've lost.

This isn't some early 2000s gaming forums. We don't self-proclaim "victories" here.

>>55661067
I specifically mentioned Schrodinger, but being an inbred hillbilly, he probably thought it's a brand of German beer.

>>55648017
he's dead Jim

>>55661118
>the post said he specifically said it, not that you could interpret it as such.

Again, semantics. Anons are known to be hyperbolic, but the essence of what he said is there. You refusing to interpret it correctly is none of my concern.

>Words have clear meanings in English

Yes, and that screenshot did not need further clarity.

>and it's not "goal post shifting" to call out someone saying misinformation.

There was no misinformation. A slight exaggeration is not an outright lie. The gist of the claim was proven to be true.

>Vesper never specifically said what he claims he said. Showing malicious intent towards people who hate you isn't a bad thing either

Tempig gibberish and is not relevant to the discussion at hand. And justifying that sort of behaviour is a desperate tactic.

>>55648017
That guy doxxed him.

>>55661209
>INCORRECT

Except it was correct.

>>55661211
Don't use my oshi to shitpost faggot

>>55658287
Kronii almost certainly asked Vesper to help get rid of her unicorns and he definitely enjoyed doing that. Cover didn't care at first but they might have changed their mind when it started hitting the merch sales.

>>55661609
>Cope more, I guess.
I wouldn't exactly call it cope considering your side hinges on Cover magically changing their tactics after over 5 years of repeating the same pattern
>An overzealous emphasis on so-called meanings
Anon, pretending you're right doesn't make you right, you know. Pointing out that you claimed that three different words with three different means somehow mean the same thing isn't "overzealous." It's calling you retarded.
>I call a spade, a spade. What you're doing is nothing but semantics. If that makes me a parrot, then I'll join you on your little perch. Because you've been evasive with almost every anons in this thread, including myself, giving non-answers to valid questions. "Oh, it's not a suspension even when all things point in that direction, because I say so!"
That's a whole lot of words to say you've got nothing while I've got facts.
>Covid cases were clearly spelled out in their announcements.
Irrelevant according to your own logic. You've made it clear multiple times you're of the opinion that if management forces someone to stop working, regardless of reason, it is a suspension. With that logic, Cover "suspends" talents frequently, with Haachama being "suspended" for almost this whole year. This leads into my last point:
If Cover "suspends" talents so frequently, with some ranging for multiple months, what we're currently seeing is normal and rarely ever ends poorly. Therefore, by your own logic, it's a nothingburger. To go against this would be to admit your line of thinking is retarded and that I've been right this whole time. You've been trapped.

>>55657379
Who care, the point is, you don't disapear for more than one month, on a disastrous timing (2.0, first anniversary, voice pack release) on short notice and unplaned (they had streams scheduled) without a reason who would be called catastrophic, and that is downplaying it. And the absolute sillence from litteraly any potential source make it even worse. And not magni streaming like it's nothing make it even worse.

2 more weeks

>>55648855
I really want to know what this faggot's obsession with being unhinged was.

>>55663284
>And not magni streaming like it's nothing make it even worse.
That means the exact opposite. He's continuing his activities like he did pre-all-of -this, and he's hanging out with Bettel like there's nothing to worry about. Other members have also been mentioning him and Vesper without a shred of worry.

He hasn't broken any rules he's just shit to work with and magni tried to defend him but also got suspended for insubordination, cover is now waiting for either news of him having been eaten by bears in the woods comes out OR he willfully graduates so they no longer have to deal with him. Termination is a bad look and cover wants to avoid it.

>>55649758
I'm about to be in this scenario, minus running for my life. I can be in my new location in 2 day's worth of road travel and that's just carrying the absolute bare essentials and my PC in my car and abandoning the rest. Then it is a matter of how soon can you move into your new place. A month is pretty reasonable assuming every cog working flawlessly.

>>55648017
Why do you people always only talk about Vesper when Magni is also "suspended" at the same time?

>>55661609
>"you've been evasive with almost every anon in this thread"
>"giving non-answers to valid questions"
>while greentexting a post with a valid answer
>while not answering a valid question in return
troonicorns can't be this inbred, can they?

>>55648017
Hold strong Tempura

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhz2uQJDY30&ab_channel=MagniDezmondCh.HOLOSTARS-EN

>>55648017
The rrat about him cucking Magni's gf is the only thing that explains the delay.
> Interpersonal bullshit so Cover can't do anything - not even a formal suspension.
> They obviously can't reveal this shit on their accounts either, since it has nothing to do with the VTubers or their careers.
> Relationships within Tempus are utterly ruined.
> Neither of them wants to talk to each other.
> None of Tempus wants to work with Vesper again after that.
> Cover trying to subtly nudge him into graduating with various perks.
> Vesper is a stubborn old fucker and will cling to this little career like the leech that he is.
> Cover can't force him, but they can't force the others to like him either.
> Entire branch in limbo for weeks while they try to find a solution that works for both sides.

>>55648017
If he or a family member (by birth or marriage) is having an emergency he, being in the US, is entitled to take Family Medical Leave, as according to the Family Medical Leave Act of 1993.

The FMLA allows eligible employees to take up to 12 work weeks of unpaid leave during any 12-month period to care for a new child, care for a seriously ill family member, or recover from a serious illness. The FMLA covers both public- and private-sector employees, but certain categories of employees, including elected officials and highly compensated employees, are excluded from the law or face certain limitations. In order to be eligible for FMLA leave, an employee must have worked for the employer for at least 12 months, have worked at least 1,250 hours over the past 12 months, and work for an employer with at least 50 employees within a 75-mile radius. Several states have passed laws providing additional family and medical leave protections for workers.

>>55658287
Imagine getting suspended and maybe even fired just to own some customers you don't like

>>55666347
So what then? He got magni pregnant?

>>55666347
was magni the family

>>55661609
Now THIS is reddit spacing.

when does the contract run out for the second round of homos? they're all getting terminated at the same time and the branch will be ended.

>>55649758
A month should be plenty of time

>>55666985
Any day now, sister!

>>55665360
I like this rrat.

>>55648017
Cover's dragging out the termination of Magni and Vesper so they can inflict maximum mindbreaking on homobeggars. Playtime is fucking over.

>>55649831
This is the stupidest strawman, you can look anywhere and know this is untrue. I'd argue, a vast majority of the time, men collabing with women doesn't actually end up hurting either side.

Vesper and Kronii are exceptional because both of them were absolute shit heads about it and openly antagonized their broad fanbase because they were insecure over a small minority of fans.

>>55666347
He wasn't there a year and didn't put that many hours in. He also isn't employed by cover. They're all self employed private contractors that cover can cut ties with at any moment. It's honestly pretty shitty.

>>55662831
>Kronii set the gears in motion to kneecap Tempus for the foreseeable future
Blue woman... good?

>>55667999
Oh then he's just fucked lmao

I hate Vesties so much. In the same vein that simps and incels are two sides of the same coin, they're simply the incels to the Fandead's simps. Only, simps will leave you alone if you stay out of their sight. Incels have to make sure everyone hears them all the time. Holy shit fuck Vesties.

>>55667874
There are legs to the rrat that the 1-on-1 collab they did was a ploy to burn out some unicorns, but Kronii hasn't had candidate camera moments saying she was doing certain actions deliberately to piss off certain groups of people who annoy her like Vesper has over and over again since then.

>>55648017
Remember that the Japanese can detain you in a koban for up to 23 days, which they can extend indefinitely while they do their investigation.
And the only way to get out early is to confess, even if you are innocent.

and knowing how much of a menhera Vesper is, it is more than likely

>Omegatroon becomes EN manager about a month before IRyS debuts
>Immediately starts looking for GEN 2, and picks 5 bad candidates for a variety of reasons, (Dead dog/not really interested, Sounds exactly like Gura, Is boring, is Australian, is Kronii)
>Project hope is forever abandoned
Council is a failure for HoloEN (Not catastrophic or anything, they just didn't make anywhere near what they had projected based on Myth/previous JP Gens, nor did it lead to any real growth for the company)
>This was Omegatroon's big first project as a manager, since IRyS was more or less done by the time he came on board and he had limited input for her debut.
>Omegatroon sees the lack of growth from Council, decides that perhaps the female market is stagnated and the company can make money by diversifying
>It cannot. 2 generations of HomoEN are released to great expense and very limited financial return/company growth. Maybe of them still have barely any subs by Hololive standards.
>Not even looking at Gen 3 HoloEN because the focus was on bailing out the sinking ship that was HomoEN, 2 gens meaning that management didn't want direct competition with them for at least a couple of months each, we lost an entire year to this faggotry.
>Omegatroon is sidelined, fired, sold into sexual slavery, or perhaps just blocked on Discord, it's unclear. Either way, Omegatroon loses the managerial oversight position for HoloEN
>Dimitri Jap is appointed to be his replacement. This decision was based on the idea of returning the company to its core strategies that have worked on the JP side, (as well as in the early HoloEN days before Omegatroon)
Homostars speak out against Omegatroon's replacement as they were desperately dependent on Omegatroon's corporate support, speak out of turn and get suspended. (this was Vesper's first suspension)
>EN3 is scouted in quick order, 3/5 of them are great, 1 is fine but currently forgettable, 1 is a clear weak link
>This is still a marked improvement from Omegatroon's tenture.
>Also Pekora's monkey is dead.

>Credits roll while "Don't you Forget about me" by Simple Minds plays over black and white photos of Hololive girls (no mori or kroni)

>>55649831
this is stupid as shit, you're corpobrained. i don't collab with unicorn-friendly women obviously but collabing with women has only been good for my channel

What did him and Magni do? Leak info to vtuber news channels?

>>55669807
Bad for theirs though.

>>55669401
One of the craziest RRATs I've seen a out the situation. Vesper wasn't in Japan when the notice was put out.
your based for posting The Fable though, love that manga.

>>55648017
Probably a few different things.
Suspension, investigation, negotiation, legal consultation, etc.

>>55648017
Just two more weeks unicorn bros, lol

>>55670321
>Sisters are now celebrating every day their homos are in limbo

>>55648855
>he blows up at a manager again.
This is parroted a lot but there's no proof that his supposed anger was directed at his manager, right? I assumed it was towards the blue troon supporter since it looked like they had beef.

Damn just found out he got permission to stream Dohna Dohna in streamer mode, but during the test stream his manager noticed he'd modded all the generic whores to be Hololive girls!

>>55670927
It was confirmed by Vesper himself that he blew up at his manager. I’ve yet to see proof Altare had ANY involvement past “uhh they totally hate each other bros!”

>>55651878
His RM also called Vesper his friend but didnt mention him directly and talked pc building and did an impression of him yesterday

quite the waste of a model from a business perspective

>>55671170
Does he ever whistleblow?

>>55671093
>It was confirmed by Vesper himself that he blew up at his manager. I’ve yet to see proof Altare had ANY involvement past “uhh they totally hate each other bros!”
OK I didn't follow closely enough. Just kept seeing it said with increasingly ludicrous levels of hyperbole. I thought he and and blue were for months not seen in the same stream until relatively recently and basically never mentioned eachother onstream for ages whereas they both ref the other members no prob? Wasn't that the basis of the animosity rrat?

>>55671399
No he is vague

>>55666347
>In order to be eligible for FMLA leave
>an employee must have worked for the employer for at least 12 months, have worked at least 1,250 hours over the past 12 months, and work for an employer with at least 50 employees within a 75-mile radius
>75-mile radius
>cover is in Japan 6000miles away from the US
Yeah, nice try being an intellectual.

>>55671697
Means he's still employed, for the time being at least. He doesn't have to be explicit, but if more and more vague details were to begin to spill I suppose that couldn't be taken as a good sign.

>>55671902
But he is ramping up activities too. He is now just playing games on stream and he hasn't done that in a long time.

>>55655143
That's weird. Who would do that

>>55671425
as someone that did watch Vesper he did mention Altare on stream through that collab ban arc

2 more weeks unichad bros! T-this time for sure!

>>55672010
RM doesn't seem distressed even the slightest. this whole thing is a giant nothing burger for sure, corporate stuff takes time.

>>55672631
It could just be because hes checked out though and stopped caring

>>55672316
Imagine being cocky when they have been in limbo for over a month, even IF they come back they will have always been responsible for ruining the first anniversary (after Vesper already soured the half anni) and scaring the shit out of their fanbases, that is never going away.

>>55667874
They're perfect for each other.

>>55659107
>Claims his fans are the one making the disappointed comment
That user used to make clips of Vesper, then after the japan arc they deleted their clips.

>>55672942
And we still get to laugh at you kek. The shitposting material will also never go away

He called Jap a nigger. It's over.

>>55648017
Its a common japanese company trope they suspend you permanently or treat you like shit until you resign yourself.

At this point I'm just getting more and more mad at Cover for this bullshit circus they're performing. If they were gonna be terminated they would have done so already.
Whatever reason there is for this clown fiesta, they're never gonna reveal it. When they reappear they will never fucking address the topic either.
Secretive pieces of shit.

>>55663542
This I can answer. He liked making his chat go fast in reaction to him saying things.

>>55674083
b-but muh blue triangle is good, they will never do something like that

>>55648017
investigation before making an actual statement

>>55648017
use a proper funeral picture next time faggot
and good riddance

>>55649758
Given Texas is a third world shithole where murder is essentially legal, it would motivate you to get out of there faster.
Depending on your finances, it might be better to just live out of a hotel and find anew place to live from there if you're in imminent danger

>>55649758
Gavin Bettel literally moved cross country in less than a week counting packing like 3 weeks ago.

>>55671425
They mentioned each other regularly. You could MAYBE say that Vesper was avoiding Altare for some period but it’s really more “Vesper didn’t do group collabs except with Kronii and Mori for a while and Altare is in every Tempus group collab”.

>>55661209
Crawl back into your fucking hole

If they are fired i want them to announce it.

If they are not that is even better imagine how easy is gonna be to bait vesper, its so obvious the retard has anger management problems. He would never miss a chance to own unicorns and say somethi g he shouldnt in the process.

Its a win win. The knly losers are homobeggars and sisters

>>55677108
keep crying siste

>>55649831
>#1 rule in Male vtubing
>No collabing with females
Were you dropped on you head as a kid?
Vast majority of JP dudes have done that several times and they are doing fine.

>>55659928
French people nowadays never use this phrase
People need to stop with all those french saying nobody use since 1950

>>55669807
At their expense of theirs, pea brain.

>>55648017
JP management thinks information leakage is death, but it seems that EN management is getting in the way

>>55677487
There is no justification for hurting hololive
And JPstars keeps failing all the time

>>55648017
>>55676503
He looks like he's constipated kek

>>55678106
>There is no justification for hurting hololive
This is some niji tier "my oshi is the company" rhetoric

Schizo rrat I haven't seen anyone suggest lol:

Vesper and Magni are in a relationship and it was found out by management. NotMagni cheated on his irl gf with NotVesper and that's why she also deleted her Twitter/X

>>55672631
Anon, magni started lossing interest in being holostars when he realised his twitch cilque (daph) wasn't wellcome, then it became more and more apparent he stopped giving a single fuck. he was aiming for the exist since 6 month ago, obviously he isn't distressed finaly getting out.
>>55678567
Anon, your oshi can be anyone in hololive the existence of tempiss is a dread. Every single fandom hate tempiss and want them at least gone or executed. and if you don't you are a fake fan who let some thrash boring fag ruin your oshi carrier. Also tempiss are not holo, they are niji so it's fair to go for an all out war against them.

>>55678987
I honestly think Magni expected similar viewership to some of the EN girls or Nijisanji EN boys like Luxiem before joining. When he realized his growth is stagnant around 200k, compared to his viewership on his RM's, he wanted to leave. Btw am not an anti Magni is my oshi. I think he regrets choosing Hololive over Niji (I always heard he applied for both)

No matter the outcome, fired or not, the fallout will be fucking delicious.

>>55679296
>I think he regrets choosing Hololive over Niji
I too regret not eating raw sewage when the restaurant gets my steak slightly wrong