/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>55604319
You forgot the part where talent have to fund there own live2D

>Management can destroy any projects you have because fuck you

They get to pander to twittertrannies though.

you make holodrones seethe uncontrollably by your mere existence. for me, personally, that would outweigh any negative

>>55604319
the point is so you don't have to join phase connect or be a jew slave

Like 75% of this applies to Hololive
Also for basically anyone who isn't Zaion Nijisanji is a step up from what they already had regardless of how shitty it is
And unfortunately it is or was the second best you can get after Hololive

Look how they treated the ID and KR branches

>>55604724
>Like 75% of this applies to Hololive
You cope with delusions?

>>55604724
>Like 75% of this applies to Hololive
which ones?

>>55604725
And India too.

>>55604319
you forgot the part where they have to pay for their own debuts and projects

To go from 2view to 3view and (probably) make more money, even with the 2%

>>55604319
Yeah but you get paid in exposure!
Obligatory reading: https://files.catbox.moe/sv7eoh.txt

>>55604319
>What even is the point of joining Nijisanji?
To help fund another yacht.

>>55604319
Riku became one of the youngest billionaires at the age of 26. Take that Holofans.

>>55604724
It’s actually 80% 2 of those points don’t exist for either side

>>55604319
record profits, seethe

>>55604319
>Someone mention Niji only girl collab
Cock cock cock cock
>Someone mention Niji success
1% 1% 1% 1% 1%

Why you even be Niji fan at this point?

>>55606288
>record profits
It's not 2022 anymore.
Shareholders love layoffs. More money for them.

>>55604319
i wanna be friends with kuzuha channel

>>55604319
>cum
>nigger
>ball sack
>fuck ass

>>55604890
Noor did not deserve the absolute shite treatment she got under nijiID. I still think about her and watch an archived vod once in a while.

>>55607018
I'll have what HE'S having!

>>55604319
The only dating service with 100% success rate.

>>55605327
Damn, why Yagoo have to pay his talents fair wages!
>>55606288
>care more about the company than the livers
yep typical nijifags.

>>55606288

>>55606288
>retard oshis the stocks instead of the vtubers
EVERY
SINGLE
FUCKING
TIME

>>55604319
>no salary
Only when you don't stream and take vacations
>low income
Depend solely on your own talent, some people make as much a top tier hololive talent and some make pennies because they are 2view
>high streaming hours
False, they can stream whenever they want, but only get paid when streaming
>custom merch isn't guaranteed
Only for milestones
>no official travel subsidy
False
>no health care support
Up to every person if they want to deduct a part of their wage for health care
>limited managerial support
They are over 200 vtubers in Nijisanji
>mandatory game permissions
Like any other vtuber company
>game selection has restrictions
Like any other vtuber company
>acquiring outfit has restrictions
Like any other vtuber company
>model update has restrictions
Like any other vtuber company
>3d model has restrictions
Like any other vtuber company
>events participation isn't guaranteed
Like any other vtuber company
>concerts participation isn't guaranteed
Like any other vtuber company
>company festival participation isn't guaranteed
Like any other vtuber company
>branch collaboration requires permission
Like any other vtuber company
>inter branch collaboration requires permission
Like any other vtuber company
>collaboration fees
False
>toxic working conditions
False
>fans will support management over you
False
>success isn't guaranteed
Like any other vtuber company

>>55606721
you don't, stop being a tribalfag and love your oshi, shame we are the minority

>>55608204
fuck off

>>55604724
>Like 75% of this applies to Hololive
Anon you aren't supposed to point that out in a bait thread. Nijisanji does allow their talents to select their vtuber model from a pool of models so they do have a few positives. The big negative is the large number of livers so they have more internal competition and it's hard to grow when Nijisanji keeps promoting new waves.

>>55608204

>>55604319
I actually stopped doing niji bait threads a long time ago coz i just felt bad for em

>>55608204
2 cents have been deposited into your kurosanji account

>>55608399
I stopped because it gets longer every time and I can't be bothered

>>55608241
sorry for ruining your tribalfag thread, faggot

>>55608381

>>55608548
sorry for ruining your tribalfag thread, faggot

>>55608782

>Please Riku let me stay, I need to make money! You can shit all over my career with dogcrap business practices, whore me out to males and ruin my future reputation, you can take my merch money and shit in my cereal bowl, just don't throw me back to being an indie!

Imagine defending this

>>55608333
They put out waves too quickly, none of their livers can make a decent audience if a new wave of assholes show up a few months into a growth period. this is why everyone but their first En wave and Noctyx have failed.

>no salary
>low income
>high streaming hours
>custom merch isn't guaranteed
>no official travel subsidy
>no health care support
>limited managerial support
>mandatory game permissions
>game selection has restrictions
>acquiring outfit has restrictions
>model update has restrictions
>3d model has restrictions
>events participation isn't guaranteed
>concerts participation isn't guaranteed
>company festival participation isn't guaranteed
>branch collaboration requires permission
>inter branch collaboration requires permission
>collaboration fees
>toxic working conditions
>fans will support management over you
>success isn't guaranteed

>>55608204
Gotta love when an anon BTFOs OP so hard they have to claim you work for anykara
good job

Yagoo
>called out at the shareholder meeting for allowing his talents such a generous merch cut
>stood up and defended his talents and defended the practice in front of a room full of investors
Riku
>asked why so many of his talents are graduating
>responds by blaming the talents and absolving himself of responsibility

That's the difference

>>55609926
You forgot:
>yelled at a shareholder suggesting following NijiSanji's pay structure. (no salary, majority merch percentage, no project subsidies, no travel reim burseent) to maximize shareholder profits.

>>55610121
>>55609926
Good for PR, be sure to remember this after your oshi participates in her first private shareholder event/orgy.

>>55608204
The middle of this post should be permanently stickied.

>>55610200
I'll start worrying about that after Niji starts selling off their livers to the private shareholders.

>>55608204
>no salary
>limited managerial support
>toxic working conditions(somewhat, varies per person)
>fans will support management over you
>success isn't guaranteed(Hololive Buff is real)
>branch collaboration requires permission(Holo just needs to ask the other Talent)
>inter branch collaboration requires permission(Holo just needs to ask the other Talent)
True to Niji

>low income(before monetization? or just minimum wage back when Coco mentioned it)
>custom merch isn't guaranteed
Varies on liver's popularity, won't happen in Holo.

>high streaming hours
>events participation isn't guaranteed
>concerts participation isn't guaranteed
>company festival participation isn't guaranteed
Talent/Liver choice dependent?

>no official travel subsidy
>mandatory game permissions
>game selection has restrictions
>acquiring outfit has restrictions
>model update has restrictions
>3d model has restrictions
Happens in Holo too.

>no health care support
Varies on each person's contract which is prob NDA, but I can see it happening to Niji only.

>collaboration fees
Dunno what the fuck this is

FTFY

>>55604428
Not OP but what? From what I heard they only get to pick which L2D they want out of a set of pre-made models.

>>55609833
Hololive
>talents are paid dramatically better than Nijisanji
>debuts are funded, unlike Nijisanji
>1 manager per talent vs 1/5 ratio in Nijisanji
>invest in new technologies rather than yachts for the CEO
>upgrading streaming assets and technology
>talents actually receive promotion, wild concept I know
>listen to the community and change
>doesn't kneel to China
>give the talents training, funding, and support
>3D for everyone, concerts for everyone
>gold standard of the industry

Hololive also treats the girls far better and doesn't treat them as shipbait and fetishbait unlike Nijisanji

>>55610580
>no official travel subsidy
Fauna confirmed Cover paid for their business class tickets so they can go over to JP for the upcoming events.

>>55610641
>>talents are paid dramatically better than Nijisanji
i MEAN, BEING PAID AT ALL IS DRAMATICALLY BETTER THEN NIJISANJI.

>>55610808
Ah, thanks for the update then, I thought I remembered someone from ID branch that they didn't. It was a while ago?

>>55611017
Yeah I think when ID1 was doing 3D debuts they had to pay for flights but that was a while ago and policies do change. Fauna actually did say that they upgraded her to First Class and she was constantly offered margaritas during her flight, however first class tickets are 20k USD to go to Japan so she probably mixed up First Class and business class, which most people do since colloquially they both mean not economy class.

>>55610641
>>1 manager per talent vs 1/5 ratio in Nijisanji
Ina, Gura and Ame all share a manager, but she's a veteran and is able to handle the three gremlins, ans is pretty baller with a katana in l4d2

>>55611459
And they call her The Gremlin Wrangler.

>>55610641
My retarded friend, no company is good or morally good, they all care about profit and only profit.

B-but hololive is different!

>Mel sexual harassment from a manager
>Put Coco on oidashibeya, until she resigned
https://japanintercultural.com/free-resources/articles/oidashibeya-japanese-purgatory/
>Put Haachama on odashibeya recently
>Firing the whole CN branch without prior warning
>Put extra work on "talents" than don't agree with company guidelines to prevent them from streaming
>The whole Russia drama
>The Aloe drama
>Forcing Nene to stream even when she was diagnosticed depression
>underpaid staff

>>55612021
I don't know how stupid you are, but you're pretty fucking stupid.

>>55612371
Nice argument, what you need to know is that I'm less stupid than you by far, you absolute retard that love to suck companies cocks for free, let me guess you follow companies on social media that upload memes? right? retard

>>55612021
My retarded friend
>Mel
Immediately fired meanwhile Nijiniggers have a groomer that passed all of their auditions and interviews before being fired
>Coco
He says, she says. She said it was creative freedom, people think otherwise. So it's whatever you want to believe
>Haachama
She's literally sick. I don't know which schizo voice in your head is saying that it's odayshibeya
>Firing whole CN branch
Most are traitors and supported antis. Good riddance
>Give extra work
More voices in your head, Give proof.
>Rushia
She caused it herself, they were on her side until she broke NDA
>Aloe
Nijiniggers are the ones that doxxed her and harassed her.
>Nene
Was advised to not stream but she herself felt compelled to do it since it was a busy time
>Underpaid staff
I will always advocate for people to be paid better. Every manager and support staff in the industry right now have the same salary so they should all try to aim for higher salaries.

>>55612021
>Rewriting history, using the voices in your head as proof
>Y-you can't refute anything I say!
It's all too tiring...

>>55608204
>Like any other vtuber company

>>55613021
>Immediately fired meanwhile, [delusions]
false
>He says, she says. She said it was creative freedom, people think otherwise. So it's whatever you want to believe
She said that she was forced to resign
>She's literally sick. I don't know which schizo voice in your head is saying that it's odayshibeya
And Sana back is still hurting, and Gura was super busy when she wasn't streaming
>Most are traitors and supported antis. Good riddance
False
>More voices in your head, Give proof.
watch streams
>She caused it herself, they were on her side until she broke NDA
She didn't broke NDA
>Nijiniggers are the ones that doxxed her and harassed her.
Delusions, but why is Russia and Aloe different in your schizo mind?
>Was advised to not stream but she herself felt compelled to do it since it was a busy time
LMAO
>I will always advocate for people to be paid better. Every manager and support staff in the industry right now have the same salary so they should all try to aim for higher salaries.
See, I was right

>>55613247
Nice argument schizo

>>55615150
You're argument is literally saying the opposite of what he's saying without really saying anything. And then you act like you've won this argument?

>>55604428
That's wrong, anon.
Niji provide Live2D for free but livers need to funded their debut material (trailers, asset, lore, media, etc) yourself from the start.
Meanwhile, Hololive will provide funded for you to be use as part of debut, it's enough so that some talents can make original song as part of their debut of some covers song with high quality MV.

>>55615351
Yes

>>55615150
>>false
>Manager was fired the second it was confirmed it was them, Mel asked to keep quiet while legal proceedings happened
>>She said that she was forced to resign
>A full year after the incident, when she said she decided to graduate, and noone was able to talk her out of it?
>>And Sana back is still hurting, and Gura was super busy when she wasn't streaming
Yes. Sana fucked her back up, and there were two massive events one with the entire company and the other with En, almost back to back.
>>False
One was an active anti, three others spouted CCP propaganda, they were all informed of termination and were allowed to keep their L2Dmodels.
>>watch streams
I don't think Kaela is being forced to stream as long as she does, however long a Talent works is up to that talent. Most Managers are concerned for their health.
>>She didn't broke NDA
>Yes she did, that was expressly the reason she was fired. she broke NDA while under an internal investiagtion and leaked photos to a notorious dramatuber.
>>Delusions, but why is Russia and Aloe different in your schizo mind?
>Aloe was harassed and stalked into graduating, Rusia broke the rules and was fired.
>>LMAO
>Great comeback smoothbrain.
>>See, I was right
>About what? Managers in Hololive are more then likely paid the same as middle managers all over japan.

>>55616152
>Can't even green text properly

Lmao, what a retard

>>55604724
List em faggot

>>55608204
based

>>55609926
>>55610121
is this really true or just rrats?

>>55606288
Retard-kun, you do know where they take that money from right?

>>55604319
Alternative to Hololive

>>55610641
pretty sure holo is the only corpo that had to terminate someone for intercourse in exchange for streaming equipment? Nice support

>>55610641

>>55604319
who knows

>>55604319
nijifag propaganda, probably

>>55612021
you forgot this my king..

>>55612021

>>55612021
>>55633184

>>55612021
Don't let me even get started and list all of Niji Drama. LMAO
NijiEN drama alone is more toxic than entire Hololive drama combined.

>>55624538
These bitches make money though

>>55612021
>>55633184
>>55633351
>>55633585

>>55612021
thats only 0.1% of the drama in nijisanji..

>>55633872
are you sure about that? If those other ones qualify as drama then ina failing a sponsorship from back then is considered drama

The last point joining Nijisanji was viable was in 2020-2021 when Anycolor was preparing to launch Luxiem. Now even regular faggots know Allcolor (black) is fucking shit.

>>55617777
It is, there was a transcript from the meeting posted a few weeks ago.

>>55604319
Toxic attracts toxic.

>>55617777
he didn't yell at anyone. Don't know why people are making shit up

>>55633585
This one turn out to be nothing burger.
As Lauren keep all of his viewer and that sponsorship just move on and pick another member.

>>55634824
what about this 3?

>>55633184
>>55633351
>>55633755

>>55635271
one of those was a termination that happened before this board existed. Why are you bringing up that now when holo has the same thing in their pre-/vt/ closet?

>>55635271

>Raito
Ichikara was doing right thing
>Meiro
As far as i know, i only know Narukami VS Roa, but not her vs Roa.
>Gundou
BAD timing for such stupid comment, knowing Gundou she probably didn't want to apologize at all.

>>55605327
>>55606288
Based corpo-dickriders

>>55609833
>can't even come up with their own memes and have to copy holochads
Kek leftists can't meme all over again

>>55604319
Nijisanji is likely a step up from the 1 or 2 view indie scene.

>"The point to joining Nijisanji is diversity and inclusivity everyone there is gay and non-binary it's the perfect company and bigots and racist don't like it, we must stan it because they are inclusive"
if you think like this kys, you're a grifter and joining hololive is not gonna help you become rich.

>>55633184
Literal rapist. Deserve it.
>>55633351
Literal toxic menhera. Deserve it.
>>55633585
Still fine and alive. Got mentioned in one nipple torture porn JAV. Literally winning.
>>55633755
Pretending to be retard. Get called a retard. Double down on being retard

>>55604319
Better than being a indie

I'd join to groom Finana. Nothing else matters.

>>55642177
sexy design

>>55617777
Well the stars no longer get 2 merch runs a year with one of them being standardized, don’t think they’ve gotten their seasonal merch, and finally still no talk about their yearly concert. So you tell me

>>55640311
brand worship is a dangerous drug, get some help.

>>55650048
>firing rapists and schizos is...le bad
out of the list only gundou suffered unfairly. lauren is fine and the other two had to go.