/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

retard
>>55569708
>>55569708
>>55569708

>>55577277
that thread is at bump limit and almost dead anon

Pissed off management?

it's over

>>55577204
Anycolor couldn't be more black.

>>55577204
She failed to get Clique permission

>>55577777
Lucky quints confirm.

>>55576005
>>55575663
>>55575369
>Selen gets shafted
>Nijifags immediately start finding ways to put the blame on her and absolve nijisanji of all wrongdoing
why are nijifags like this

>>55577204
selen next on graduation line?

>>55577204
Graduation in few months.

>>55578004
The company is their oshi. It’s not a joke and never was.
There’s also the problem that it could be interns or the talents themselves shitposting here in an attempt to change the narrative.

>Hmm...help Selen or buy a new foosball table? Selen, foosball, Selen, foosball...what would Yagoo do? FOOSBALL!!

>>55577277
Dramanigs have to dramanig even after the bump limit. And bvtm needs more screenshots to collect. Please understand.

>>55578004
Every single fucking time

>>55577204
Probably gave up. I would too if i was in a black company like kuroosanji

>>55578308
why don't you go back to your thread and think up of more ways of why this is totally Selen's fault and riku can do no wrong

>>55578308
>bvtm posting something other than shitting on hololive and shilling phase connect
Nice joke

>>55578004
holy fuck other posts there are really doing mental gymnastics to even blame jp members instead

>>55578018
>>55578093
I reckon that's why she got denied, she's already stated her intent to graduate internally and now management don't want to go to the effort of supporting a talent who is leaving anyway. They'd rather she just fuck off while they debut yet another wave.

>>55578004
They can't recognize most livers, so they make the company logo their oshi. That's why

>>55578141
It makes sense. Even niji-antis just hate the company, only sometimes individual livers.

deepl sorry
im jp
I can imagine that "women who are good at games" are very much wanted by Hololive because they created the "Horizontal" brand.
And it may be Omega's idea, but HoloEN is a worse gamer than HoloJP (e.g. Mario Kart competitions).
If Seren wanted to get into the holo now, she'd get a shot.
There are 3 ways to get into holo: "audition", "management scout", and "recommendation by holomen".
With the current demand for "women who are good at games" in Holo and the expected recommendations from Ollie, Axel, and others, there is no way Seren would be rejected.
With a quality model like Sioli, Seren would be convinced by the new model.

A "woman who is better at games than men" may not be favored at nijisanji, but at Hololive, it's treated as a superlative.
She will be revered by the holo-men and holo-oshi with the highest rating as a "queen.
Since they won't be able to wait until EN gen4 2 years from now, they will be added to hope as well as iris or jp gen0.
And while we're at it, if dtto is invited to come along, holo-EN gamers gen1 will be possible.
Seren would definitely feel more at home in holo live.
It's the Apex predator lady.

>>55579999
even quads huh

>>55578004
Because they don't like Nijisanji for the "livers" or content. They like it because they hate Hololive, and want to support the rival.

>>55577777
Quints never lie.

>>55579999
We don't want her.

>>55579999
Sovl

>>55578004
>he thought the company being their oshi was a meme
There's a reason everyone says the company is their oshi. They like to pretend they give a shit about the livers but will instantly lick Nijisanji's boots when something like this happens.

>>55580211
who is we, nigga, you and cockroaches in your mom's basement?

>>55579999
Grass

>>55577777

concernfagging for someone you don't watch just gets tiring to read. Not getting roped into a shitty crusade from a fanbase that hates the company and its streamers is the best move

>>55580377
KEK

>>55577204

>>55579999
Nice digits

>>55580211
This man does not speak for hololive.
I do. I speak for hololive and I say WE want her.

>>55580523
sure nijibro, why don't you go back to nijien where you can put your heads together and think up more reasons why it's selen's fault for getting banned from international collabs, not anycolor

>>55582094
Why would I think of that when I don't watch her? The nijis her fans and pretend fans hate are the ones I do watch

>>55578004
If they admit the company is in the wrong here, they have to consider that the company may have been in the wrong all the other times too. Obviously that can't happen, so the unending graduations must be due to outside factors and personal reasons only.
Seriously even Vshojo hasn't seen back-to-back controversy like Niji has this year.

>>55577204
i dont care. she should give me all of her money for free

"This is my only chance to get pred as a Nijisanji liver!"
>outfit reveal idea gets shut down
>left out of voicepack because she replied 1 hour late
>forbidden from holding tournaments with cash prizes
>forbidden from holding events outside NijiEN
jump off the sinking ship Selen

>>55577204
Selen, the blue dorito is waiting for you… come.

>>55577514
You know it

I KNOW YOU ARE /HERE/ COME HOME PLS.

>>55579999
Again, why would we want nijiwhores in hololive?

>>55581533
Stop pretending to be a holofan now that your corpo is in flames, nijifaggot.

>>55580341
"We", the real holofans, not some nijifags who wants to enter the fanbase with their nijiwhore oshi

>>55585186
To fix them.

>>55577777
>trips followed by quints

>>55577204
Every day that passes is another day closer

>>55585323
Why would we want to fix niji cumdumps who welcomed dicks on every orifice while worshipping baphomet?

>>55579999
Checked
I would accept laughing dragon into hololive

Remember that Nijifags harassed Aloe into graduation

>>55585620
Never forget.

Nijifags are not friends. Nijiwhores are not welcome. They started this war, we will finish it.

>>55585585
Anons who have this sentiment are either newfags or ex-nijifags

Neither have the authority to speak for Hololive

>>55585620
Dont forget causing the Holocaust into our current permissions nightmare

>>55585894
Korone playing retro games was the shit.

>>55577204
She realized being Nocturnal's 24/7 onahole is much better than doing stuff for her fans.

Feels like the actions of a company when they know an employee is leaving so they'll do everything in their power to spite them on the way out because you're not "one of them" anymore.

>>55577204
The clique were pressuring her to give them preferential treatment, and management was bending to their will, so she decided to say fuck it to the whole thing

>>55585894
qrd?

>>55578004
kek

>>55579999
It is true that any gaming skill in hololive is really exaggerated. Selen in niji is inferior to some males, in hololive with her skills she will be more noticeable.

>>55577777
Holy moly

>>55586013
>Was
Cuck and a clip watcher

>>55577777
Based quints

>>55579999
Homobegging faggots don’t watch streams big surprise

>>55579999
it's too late, she'll have to wait another 2 years for the next EN wave or maybe she can copy niji and try to get into the next homo EN wave lmao

>>55584989
Retard she’s definitely not fit

>>55584856
Can you explain these points? Outside of the last one where do you see these in any corpo?

>>55588843
Mass reporting streams for copyright reasons until Mio got 2 strikes from capcom.

>>55579999
Selen would never work in Hololive, because she's too used to having a permissions department that isn't fucking retarded. In Nijisanji, she can get perms herself. She wants to play something, she can go email devs, get the okay, and play it that same week. With Hololive, she can't do that. She has to put in a request to the permissions retard, wait for him to remember he has a job, wait weeks if not MONTHS for him to get off his ass and send an email, and then that MIGHT result in perms.

>>55577204
Meanwhile, in Holo, HoloID wanted their own version of the sportsfes that includes all branches, and the mainbranch organizers gave their approval and even appeared as guests. Now, its a yearly thing for HoloId and one of their biggest events.
It's just sad for the livers.

>>55590423
>she can go email devs, get the okay
she can't do that. She did it once with Vampires BR and got slapped so hard after it by staff.

>crying about "muh aloe and mio holocaust" as if NijiENfags had anything to do with it and weren't just bored Mythfags until the dumb kpoptrannies from Twitter were invited into our house

Why do both sides have to be so fucking stupid
Seriously

>>55590719
I like Selen.

>>55590501
again the nijisisters resort to lying and twisting the truth. It's really ironic how nijiniggers started the Hololive Holocaust and when one of their organs get transplanted over to Hololive, they will feel the effects of it.

>>55585575
Because you already have people like Nerissa and Shiori holocuck.

>>55589889
Selen wanted to hold a "design my next outfit" contest and offer money to the winner, but it was rejected because anycolor didn't want her giving money to anyone at all, so it had to be changed to a "design me a FREE outfit" contest. Rather than getting paid for winning, Anycolor changed it to where they can just take any outfit submitted (doesn't matter if you win or not) and use it for whatever they want. Next Niji gen outfit, new outfit for another Niji-member, merch sales.. if you drew something in the contest, it's their's now and it doesn't have to be used for Selen.

>>55590423
That’s not a good selling point for NijiEN either, management in both companies are retarded due to being Japanese companies forced to comply with Japanese copywriter law.
Plus it’s not even like it’s a good guarantee either, it took her a while to dig up Payday perms IIRC, and it took them a while to play a simple indie game like Pizza Tower, well past it’s FOTM period.

Black companies like Nijisanji probably have a non-compete clause specifically for their industry rival (in this case Hololive). Imagine the shitstorm if it's found out that one of their livers started streaming for the rival company. Then having those livers saying "I'm finally happy" after their debut. That would ruin kurosanji's reputation for sure. Which probably means any Niji moving to Hololive in the future probably won't happen.
>inb4 Luna
Luna was gen 4, when Hololive was still a blip compared to NijiJP. They were on the rise for sure but are basically still mostly 3views.

>>55591200
They have to leave eventually at some point anyway. The sooner they leave the sooner they can get started building a sustainable career for themselves. The graduation buffs are getting lower each time so the ones taking the early exit are getting the best head-start. By the time the latecomers join them, they'll already be miles ahead on their own career.

>>55591352
I'm just saying there is probably no hope of any Nijis joining Holo or any other corpo. They will all just quit and become indie and battle it out from there.

>>55591694
It’s that or some of the popular ones try and join Vshojo if they can. It’s the only group that isn’t that much of a step down, in some cases it’s arguably a step up.

>>55591694
Grim as fuck
There seriously has to be something better than Niji that isn't Hololive.

>>55577777
nijibros it's over...

>>55591200
>Black companies like Nijisanji probably have a non-compete clause
is it enforcable though? thought it was a bit different in japan.

>>55592932
i dont think anyone wants to fuck around and find out
Itll still require legal counsle

>>55592932
It debatable but if you are Hololive, would you be willing to risk a lawsuit from Nijisanji? And until the lawsuit is resolved, the talent probably can't even stream. These anti's over at Niji can also just spin it as Hololive poaching talents from Nijisanji, which will cause the general Jap audience to side with Niji instead of Holo.

>>55592932
Legal or not they'd probably still take you to court over it. They dragged the Roa shit on for 3 years before the state told them to fuck off, so they're certainly willing to do so. Even if they can't win in court they can still make life hard for you.

>>55577514
she's graduating, its over, so she can;t organize any more tournaments in between because not enough time.

>>55590719
I cringe every time I visit /NijiEN/ out of boredom. I don't know how any self-respecting fag can endure this constant stream of retardation, horny- and blogposting. It was such a nice place before the k-pop whores came.

NIJICLIQUE WAS NEVER THIS REAL

THEY AREN'T EVEN TRYING TO HIDE ANYMORE

THEY CAN'T STOP WHIPPING SELEN IN THE BUTT BECAUSE UNTIL HER INVERTED NIPPLES POP OUT AND SHE BECOMES LIKE THE OTHERS NIJIWHORES

>>55590423
on the other hand holo as Apex perms and that's like half her content so it's not like there's an obvious dealbreaker either.

they even have Peppa Pig perms.

She collabs with twitch Apex players more than NijiEN these days. She's on the way out. With a bit of luck she gets into EN4 or 5.

And no playing with apex males is not a problem in Hololive never was.

>>55595598
They have perms for almost everything she played.

>>55595246
It's seriously the worst thread on this board and that's saying a lot considering /#/ exists. Fuck I'm pissed again.

>>55595700
>And no playing with apex males is not a problem in Hololive never was.
Yes it is an new management will not allow it your whore isn't coming send her to VSpro or she can try indie

I hope she gets out of that shithole, a shame about the character though.

>>55591863
small corpos would take them in happily, the only two with some girls of significant size are phase and idol however. phase is like, "do you REALLY want to be forced to be friends with fucking Pippa and live under her thumb" while probably they wouldn't mind idol as much but it's definitely a downgrade in the clout/status. neither of them have even a shadow of esports stuff going on however so selen would be even more out of place than she would in holo (where she'd have to learn japanese and get in with Towa or something to find something to do).

if VSPO EN became a serious thing however.. fuck Selen could basically be the core pillar around which the gen would be established. I bet they've just waiting for her to go to give her an interesting proposition. An esports themed corpo (that's actually quite big in Japan, their girls do better than most nijiENs these days IIRC) sounds like a dream come true for her.

>>55596000
This character is not even good for her. She would much prefer to be a cute princess or whatever.

>>55596014
>"do you REALLY want to be forced to be friends with fucking Pippa and live under her thumb"
What does this even mean?

>>55596262
I'd assume you can't join Phase and not suck up to Pippa, who is way way bigger than anyone else there. Pippa is bigger than selen actually ccv/income wise I believe. but... it's fucking pippa. so yeah.

>>55596403
That poster doesn't know anything about Pippa then.

>>55593226
>risk a lawsuit from nijisanji
They couldn't even take down FalseEye. I'd flip them the bird, cause I'm an American and don't have to abide by the rules of lesser nations

>>55595246
i was in for the first 2 waves, sad to see what it's become.

>>55596403
Pippa literally doesn't give a shit. She's too autistic to start drama.

>>55577204
I swear this bitch needs a manager. Wtf is even going on? Why does she think organizing a tournament is her fuckin job.

Fuck even an unpaid discord mod could do that, these power tripping mofos would love to do so.

Selen works hard and anycolor treat her like fucking shit
fuck this company

She just addressed it. She was straight up being punished by management because she announced the date change for the tournament even though it wasn't finalized. She thought it had been.

>>55598650
No fucking way. If this isn't bait....

>>55598650
how many layers of retardatation are they working on?

>>55598650
holy shit please be false, that's really depressing and I feel bad for her

>>55598650
source?

>>55598699
When this stream is done watch the vod, she talks about it right before she starts reading supas, which she's already stopping, so it should be in the last 10 minutes or so.

>>55577204
INTERNATIONAL TOURNAMENT.....

>>55598699
>>55598746
>>55598750
>>55598800
https://www.youtube.com/live/QBfVpHHU2rU?feature=share&t=10509

even vshojo doesn't have it this bad
what the FUCK is going on over there at anycolor?

>>55596403
>Pippa is bigger than selen
you cant be this retarded

>>55599052
holy fuck these people at Kurosanji are retarded as fuck

>>55599052
That is seriously fucked. What the fuck is the point of torpedoing your own talent like that? Cover screwing Gura smacks of incompetence. This feels fucking malicious.

>>55599052
jesus christ I thought "black company" was a meme but that is straight up cruel

>>55585186
aren't a few of the holojp girls former niji people?

>>55599052
I like how she ends her statement and then says she might be in a lot of trouble. She probably wasn't even supposed to address it and might get another talking to now.

>>55599443
She's probably way past caring.

>>55599362
Just one

>>55599052
Selen, just make your escape already.

>>55580958
oh man, i love that movie

>>55599516
They already had enough graduations. Why piss off one of your better performing remaining talents? Why? What's her best exit strategy? She has made a fair number of connections and could do okay as an indie, but a good corpo brings a different level of merch, sponsorships, connections, and logistics.

>>55599691
>but a good corpo
well that's the problem isn't it

what makes you guys so convinced that there's frothing demand for an english esports-focused agency
english speaking vtubers who main valorant or apex do not have particularly good viewership

>>55599691
if the leaks are real, she is graduation in a month or so... she doesnt care anymore

>>55599052
SELEN I KNOW YOU'RE HERE MARRY ME and leave your black corpo, or something

>>55599932
SHE DO WANNA SEE YOU CHINESE SMALL BABYDICK

>>55599052
Wtf? Is Selen ESL?

>>55599720
Yeah. And leaving for mental health to have money issues leading to stress too is fucking awful. The best time to exit is when you already have your next job locked on.
>>55599756
I said this a few weeks ago in some thread but VSPO EN isn't happening unless they have some clout in the Western FPS scene or go for bilingual talents who can join main branch events.

>>55599052
This is fucked. I thought it was mostly exaggeration about nijien management, but holy shit it's seriously real. I hope selen graduates to go to a corpo that respects their talents, or she becomes a large indie.

>All this for a nothing burger
Selen was making a tourney, and considered managers/talents "we can try" or "we might be able to" as guaranteed yeses. When people panicked and said to delay, no date could be agreed

If she is really graduating and they are pissed off at her, can they override that and outright terminate her for not bowing down? That's the greatest punishment for someone so headstrong like Selen and what I think a vindictive management had already done to two people anyways.

>>55596890
Anon…

>>55600076
she's got a fatty voice that makes her sound nasally

>>55599932
Fake. Where is your hearted Selen image?

>>55599052
Makes me think the graduation rrats are true and this is managements way of getting back at her on the way out.

>>55600241
You can't fire someone without an agreement and/or previous notice without a breach of contract. Technically you can but it's expensive for the company.

>>55600357
SELEN I KNOW YOU’RE HERE MARRY ME YOU FAT BITCH!!!

Selen come home....

Fuck off we're full

>>55599756
VSPO seems to think there's one because they debuted official English branding at the start of the year.

>>55601088
>>55601270
kinda rude

>>55590423
>She wants to play something, she can go email devs
so what you're saying is management doesn't fucking exist. gotcha

Selen, please bring pomu and toesemi with you

>>55602264
Hololive Gamers EN

>>55602264
to where? I doubt she will be joining any other corp after this

>>55602196
niji management sucks and is spiteful and holo management has perms autism that stifles streams. both of these things can be true simultaneously, nobody's even making a value claim that one is worse than the other

>>55601270
>>55602264

>>55578004
Kek, Nijitrannies are so subhuman

>>55602427
Hololive, mythic, vshojo(God I hope not), phase connect, idol corps.

>>55600682
Nah, Selen is a bootlicker through and through. She might not even realize just how uniquely shit her corpo is.
Even in that VOD she talks about how she's "still gonna do other fun things" etc.

>>55591014
>if you drew something in the contest, it's their's now and it doesn't have to be used for Selen.
That's not how it works, you have to specificly get permission you can't just use a disclaimer like that
Easy lawsuit waiting to happen kek

>>55603264
A graduation stream can be fun.
Like leaking everything bad about management right before ending the stream.

>>55598011
Her wave (or probably her wave and the previous wave) more then likely have one manager. since Nijisanji doesn't understand that no two people are the same.

>>55591200
>Imagine the shitstorm if it's found out that one of their livers started streaming for the rival company.
it's happened once before

>>55603264
If Selen was such a bootlicker she wouldn’t have given that statement at the end of the stream knowing that management would get mad at her. She wrote it out so she wouldn’t say anything that would get her suspended or worse.

Selen you shouldn't have peeked me

This is gonna be the next headline. We're gonna get a Nijihate hattrick, kek.

>>55590423
>With Hololive, she can't do that. She has to put in a request to the permissions retard, wait for him to remember he has a job, wait weeks if not MONTHS for him to get off his ass and send an email, and then that MIGHT result in perms.
You do know that's impossible considering in the totem poll managers are very very low compared to the talents right? One actual complaint from a Holo regarding a manager gets them the boot to be fired.

Selen should just go to VSPO if she doesn't want to do idol activities in Holo. It's an easy choice really.

>>55605566
multiple holos across JP, ID, and EN have all complained that perms take a million years or they get ghosted by management. there's a version of it from gura on the front page right now. it's not really debatable.

>>55600321
God I want to feed her pastries and listen to her laugh because "she can't possibly eat any more" and then she eats another. Holy FUCK I need a fat gf.

AIIIIIEEE DONT LOOK DONT -ACK

https://youtu.be/j3heJ_1E84g
https://youtu.be/j3heJ_1E84g
https://youtu.be/j3heJ_1E84g

>>55605905
There's a reason why everyone knows HoloEN management got a big ass boot last 2022 until 2023.

>>55602264
She won't go to hololive as she isn't passionate with idol activities, she seems more comfortable to just stream and everything thats related to it. Best scenario for her would be become indie and join Mythic since you know... it seems vshojo is pushing this idol-stick a bit more altough half-assed.

>>55606011
alright but I'm replying to
>One actual complaint from a Holo regarding a manager gets them the boot to be fired.
which is laughably untrue for most of cover's history and still remains to be seen

>>55600235
>>All this for a nothing burger

>>55606183
NOW IM EXCITED MOUSE GOING TO DANCE WITH CONNOR

>People saying it was a nothing burger and she blew out of proportions
>Selen reading a written statement on stream made it clear she is not allowed to hold an event with non-EN talents regardless of setting up a new date
management literally gave her a new date for EN only, So she gave up
EN only has what 31 or 33 people? and not everyone would sign up, Fall guys is a 60 player lobby game

>>55595246
Last time I went there was when Zaion got terminated and all they did was spam porn to snuff out any attempt at discussion
Guess nothing changed

>>55606506
One of us is retarded and, admittedly, it might be me. Can someone explain this image to me? I know who ggn is, but I do not understand what this image is supposed to be.

>>55601282
I believe you, I'm just not seeing the potential when the biggest apex main vtuber averages like 150 viewers
I don't know what selen's educational background is but if she wants to not be a disappointment to her parents she'd better get moving on her content creator career because taking a step back at this point is not going to be promising

i thought this wasn't happening anyway since there already was an international fall guys tourney back in may or june
>>55607227
isn't it 40 now?

>>55607531
Someone trying to call them whores because they said the phrase "dirty bottom boy"

>>55578141
reminds of of AEW freakazoids in a lot of ways lmao

When WWE is fucking up, they are the first ones to point it out and dunk on their fans, but when AEW screws it up they will defend Tony and the company in a whole lot of ridiculous ways

I want Selen in Hololive because she's the kami-oshi of a friend of mine ans he's a great guy.
Poor guy can't say if he's more depressed or angry at Nijisanji for the way they are treating Selen.
Plus, if she's Mumei friend, she can't be a bad person, I trust Moom.

>>55608401
nta but is it a chinese thing? I also still dont get it

>>55608621
you're way overthinking it, it's just anons hearing the word "bottom" and then calling them whores, it's not any deeper than that

>>55606183
on the gamer side, I think she will be limited on the games that could be played if she join hololive, considering the Chinese antis will game dev's ass if they allowed holo talents to play their games...

https://viewsync.net/watch?v=VgkD1scIkKw&t=0&v=UQzv-8pJSqY&t=15&mode=solo

ACCELERATE!!!

>>55608709
dont know what to say that is embarrassing

I don't think this board would be ok with her joining hololive and continuing to network with the professional Apex community the way she's been doing

>>55609880
she could be EN towa but english apex pros aren't as funny as koreans

>>55605256
lost respect when he outed himself as a vshojo bootlicker.

>>55599052
Jesus, you can tell she was just reading all that straight off some corpo write up. None of it sounded like something she actually wanted to say.

>>55609880
Except Anycolor won't allowed it and Cover won't take the risk.

>>55611892
Where do you think he gets his sources from? You gotta whet the whistle that feeds you.

>>55579999
shitty nihongo, gomene:
Selen はイドルが好きじゃない

>>55611892
Pretty gay that you respected him to begin with

>>55608140
32 after 2 terminations and 1 graduation
31 soon with Mysta's graduation

>>55578278
>Foosball, FOOSBALL ON A YACHT!

>>55609880
after that toxic menhera breakdown apex stream, i don't think she even have 0.1% of chance with that personality, also companies talks, i don't think cover will risk it

glad I dropped that shitshow of a branch

>>55578004
As expected with Nijiniggers, can pull the most asinine excuse to blame someone else whenever kurosanji fucks up.

>>55577777
Every single time /vg/ tries to meme a Tempus graduation another Niji graduates instead, quints confirm

>>55577777
Checked.

>>55615669
>/vg/
Retard.

>>55577777
Checked

>>55599052
Start archiving her shit now cause she's gunna get terminated

>>55580958
I used to pretend I was this mouse at bedtime, crawling to my room and climbing into bed through the covers.

>>55611892
shitting on nijisanji covers a multitude of sins

>>55608437
It's wild seeing people defend the exploding ring spot to this day.

so thats what it seems to be the case? not sure why ppl are saying she was banned

>selen got approval for an old date for the big fall guys event
>rescheduled it out for june/july, thought her old approvals still applied, tweeted about it
>this was not the case, she got in trouble for this
>management told her she could still do the fall guys tournament but only with EN members
>presumably tried to negotiate this (to get JP involved) but plans ended up completely falling through
>now she's going to stick with only hosting EN tournaments, possibly because she doesn't want to deal with the headache of international ones

>be selen
>makes fun multiple times of how free she is in niji and can even SWEAR!
>gets clapped by niji like everyone else
kekw

>>55627320
so much for creative freedom

>>55596668
same; i knew something was off when wave 3 felt noticeably worse than the previous 2. then things went fully to shit once the males and their fujos came in

The fact that she chose to clarify she "will still be able" to participate in international events organized by other people is a nuance that some people won't pick up. It implies she's not able to organize her own. There would be no reason to make the clarification otherwise. It wasn't simply a statement made to maintain 100% transparency, because if she had wanted that she could have just outright said "I don't want to bother with the hassle of organizing them anymore". The fact that she did not say that, but did say she was worried she might get in trouble for making a statement, speaks volumes.

>>55595898
>New Management
Grudge posting when Mori forces another male collab to rebuild her clique after Magni and Vesper's termination is announced

>>55603673
would be so fucking kino

>>55605956
buy an ad rev. also can you invite me to the wedding me and strawb go way back i promise

>>55603673
as much as I want to see that, Riku will sue her ass to oblivion if she does do it. Still, fucking kino if she did.

>>55605956
why do these drama guys always use a female avatar its so weird

>>55590423
Dude, that will be legal nightmare if every livers can ask perm on their own.
Companies need to confirm to other companies, not just one employee.

>>55579999
I'm sorry but Apex Predator Lady?
I don't think so.
Holo already have Aqua, she actually enjoying the game and not trying to take things way to seriously like Selen did.

Selen would honestly be killing it if she wasn't constantly stonewalled by management.

I'm not gonna read the rest of this thread but I just want to say that Selen throwing a tantrum over this is immature and retarded. Hosting a cash tournament across international borders is a huge deal legally and even billion dollar corporations have issues setting them up.

If Selen joins hololive, then Ame will finally have a friend who wants to play with her instead of ignoring her for collabs or their cliques.

>>55599052
I bet Nijisisters still going to spin this to put the blame on Selen, as usual.
Fucking corporate bootlickers

>>55630073
t.bootlicker

>>55630824
why bet when it's already true? >>55578004

>>55630824
she literally says she messed up in the video. I don't know what else to tell you

>>55631104
>Joins a corpo so they handle business arrangements and legal issues for you
>Complains when they handle business arrangements and legal issues for you
Okay

>>55631354
Except they don't handle legal and business arrangements for you, that's the whole fucking point

>>55577777
Checked

>>55631354
they do? they do things apart from saying no?

>>55631444
>>55631472
Stopping you from accidentally committing crimes is their value

>>55628335
Rev going to get married?

>>55631245
>Proving my point immediately
kek

>>55590423
It used to be that way, but look at all perms Holo are getting now, Kaela is streaming a bunch of different games, plus Gura and even Advent has bunch of different content nowadays.
Plus, her main content is Apex and she won't have trouble getting perms for that.

>>55631781
you're proving my point though

>>55626869
>>now she's going to stick with only hosting EN tournaments, possibly because she doesn't want to deal with the headache of international ones

She clearly states she's not allowed to host international tournaments anymore even if she wants to or not. Its not just a date thing. That's why this is a big deal.

>>55631354
She already hosted an international tournament once. Why can't she do it again?

>>55631707
Yeah, with me

>>55632124
semantics. it was just cancelled. nobody tries to push a canceled project again in a row.

>>55631890
How?

>>55632211
Getting away with a crime doesn't make it legal

>>55632424
Do you even watch the linked VOD?

>Luxiem can get off scot free by being manchildren
>Selen gets punished for being excited for something
This is fucking stupid

>>55632504
by ignoring the video

>>55579999
She's not even good at Apex, the one game she's autistically obsessed about.

>>55618211
I only need the stuff that’s pre-Luxiem

>>55632568
>Getting away with a crime doesn't make it legal
ogey, explain this crime that Selen got away with.

Rrat she is doing it for the free shadow suspension and return with her graduation announcement instead of having to both streaming for the remainder of the contract.

>>55633074
If she ran a competition for cash prizes she needs to comply with the local gambling laws in every jurisdiction the competition is open to. I highly doubt she bothered to do so, and I'm sure Niji told her that there was no way doing that would be viable for her proposal after they noticed what she was trying to do.

>>55579999
>"management scout", and "recommendation by holomen".

lol scouts have never happened after gen 3. pekora and rushia were the last scouted holomens. what the fuck is even "recommendation"? it only happened with gamers that was managed by fubuki

you must be a schizo eop cretin

>>55600076
Speech deficit
https://youtu.be/1UL9R9wspzc

>>55577514
They gave her Zaion's petty tyrant manager kek

>>55633375
are you nijisanji management? because that sounds alot like nijisanji management

>>55631537
>phew, that was close!
>selen almost got sent to 10 years in jail for playing fall guys with mito and bonbon
>luckily we were able to step in and save her from that super dangerous highly suspect activity

>>55634428
Damn... I never knew this happened... we should make another thread about how Nijisanji does good things for their livers

>>55596890
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA...hehehe.HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>55634408
Yes. AMA

>>55634705
Why do you treat your talents so badly?

>>55632613
Most of them are in the clique.
Selen is not.

>>55634763
They are willing to do virtually anything to not get a real job.

dont worry, Nijisanji PH branch will save them

>>55599052
to be a nijisanji talent is to be miserable as fuck

>>55599052
>might be in a lot of trouble soon *wry selen laugh*
It's Bauver

>>55578308
so true sister

>>55580211
>we
t.Nijinigger

>>55577204
Selen got caught with her pro player boyfriend >>55638038

>>55608709
its just a nijisister shcizo post

>>55577204
>>55577277
The rrat about Elira or someone else from EN absolutely flubbing a senpai interaction to the level of them getting entirely excluded from some of the bigger NijiJP cliques has more legs than a centipede now.

>>55580341
>we
as in ACTUAL FUCKING FANS NIJI RETARD FO BACK TO YOUR BASEMENT FUCKING SUB HUMAN APE AND END YOUR FUCKING LIFE NIJIFAG.

>>55580211
>Jp bro listen to this anon
>WE DO NOT WANT SELEN'S ASS PLEASE DON'T MENTION HORRIBLE IDEAS.

>>55579999
deepl sorry
セレンが会社をダメにするなんて誰も望んでいない。やめてくれ。
>please don't say retarded ideas this is stupid no one want selen to ruin the company, her laugh is so annoying, please stop.

>>55579999
>>55640063
Deepl
Also Omega is no longer in hololive, she was a cancer and was cut out completely please let her die no ACTUAL fan wants Omega back.
また、オメガはもうホライブにはいない。彼女は癌であり、完全に切り離された。

>>55578004
They're far FAR more concerned about their little "safe space" being invaded by trolls and outsiders, and the shitposting that would follow, than the health and well being of one of their own livers.
Who needs antis, with "fans" like these?

>>55640149
why are they like this?

>>55579999
日本人のなかでもHLZTLアンチされてないんか?
ENはとりあえずセーフだし、でもいまの状況で人数増やせないと思う。

>>55584989
>kys niji-fag no one wants your shitty chuuba you either ex-niji or a leech trying to ruined hololive, again stop breathing.

>>55579999
> ENのトワ
なんでこれいけるとおもう?
JPよりENでユニコーン多いんですよ今時.

>>55640252
>wow why are people who watch not-selen niji viewers hostile toward dragoons that want to trash not-selen nijis

>>55640386
>he says, as the group of luxnoc fans that make nijien their home trash everyone who don't suck luxnoc dick

>>55640560
you know those people have their own split thread too right? I swear dragoons just want special treatment

>>55640644
>Everyone has split threads, that's why we bay for Selen's death every day in nijien
Nijinigger logic is something else

>>55640710
I never said that. God you're impossible to have a discussion with

>>55601088
>fuck off retard we don't need her fat ass.

>>55640644
>you know those people have their own split thread too right
I made a fun out of it once as well. However, with current state of /NijiEN/ it's probably the best course of action. I really hate what this place has become after bunch of zhangsis migrated from nenmen to main thread...

>>55585455
Damn. So, in this timeline, Vox was blackbagged by a CCP official and forcibly married to his NEET daughter.

>>55596403
>this anon is so fucking retarded.
I mean Pippa is way better and more entertaining, but Selen DOES NOT fit in Phase whatsoever, as far as I know she would be so out of place, I honestly believe sakana wouldn't hire someone who is like an orange in a barrel of apples,

>>55595246
>>55595890
>>55596668
>>55627727
>>55607230
they filtered you, as was their intention

Memes aside, VSPO would be really the best for Selen, but she'd have to finally start doing her reps and she's somehow even more lazy than Gura in that matter

>>55641653
You forgot to add me Anon >>55640911
Anyways, if turning a place into cesspool filled with filthy maggots is called filtering then yeah, good job on filtering, I certainly feel filtered

>>55591200
> Luna was gen 4, when Hololive was still a blip compared to NijiJP. They were on the rise for sure but are basically still mostly 3views.
Not really. Sure, holo weren't as big of a dominant force as they are now, but they did have several 4view chuubas (modern day first army) and their main channel stuff got current VSPO level numbers.
By the time Luna debuted, Idolbu was dying, AI was drowning in her yab, ENTUM was exposed and most other corpos were in shambles.
Hololive was waaay behind Niji of course, but even at the time they were the biggest competition to niji.

>>55640386
>dragoons that want to trash not-selen nijis
what. where in the screepcap does that occur?

>>55577204
> I will not be able to organize any more international tournaments from here on out.
>>55599052
> But I was only given the option to keep it within EN this time.
> And I wanted an international event, but sadly I couldn't make it happen.

O...okay, so her on-stream statement only says she was denied permission for THIS tournament... but then she says she won't be "able to" host any more international tournaments in the future... almost as if she's.. no longer...

>>55642604
from that particular screenshot? read the last few comments

>>55642837
The comments that say that they hate Selen because her drama is hurting their oshi? That's the example of Dragoons that want to trash not-selen nijis?

>>55590423
are you fucking kidding me?
that would be a legal contract nightmare for any company involved

basically, it will go like this
selen(livers under Nijisanji) > asking perm to any company >company needs to confirm if the one asking perms is truly Selen and not Rando claiming to be her so they need to contact Nijisanji > Nijisanji then asking selen if it truly her that been in contact with the company selen has been asking for the perm >selen need to confirm it's her to Nijisanji >Nijisanji needs to contact back the company selen ask for perm and confirm it is her >company then needs to do a lot of stuff exmp: negotiating term etc with/look into her history if she is damaging the company or not >give perm to selen

or they can just give Selen legal binding contract that she can ask perm to any company without asking nijisanji first but that's a lot of power to give to your employee and not lot of companies will do that

>>55629972
HoloJP has a bunch of Apex autists.

>>55609880
Yeah it's not like JP holos play with Dtto or RPR.

Also Selen does a lot more than spam Apex.

>>55642788
Dogwhistles

>>55608621
they where claiming they where saying Nigger as an hidden message and you know how the schizo rants to lmao they took the bottom thing out of context from other post to smear the dogs

>>55577777
I'm 100% black

>>55641653
yup, they did. and i'm not even a unicorn but still found it offputting. now with fuwamoco and nerissa everything is right in the world again.

They really don't deserve Selen.
The shit she does and effort she puts in, only to have it thrown back at her.
Same goes with the JP guy whos name I just forgot that used to organize stuff, Ma-something, Mayu?
Pretty sure he openly said he didn't like the direction the company was taking and couldn't find a nice middleground so fucked off.

>>55632215
don't fall for his avatar man....

>>55628618
I dont see nothing wrong with as long they dont go the full VRchat sissyfication route with falsetto or TTS and tranny'ing out.

>>55577204
fat

>>55603363
I don't like it but if they don't do it like that in that asshole way, they put themselves as risk of future lawsuits if some new outfit or character is "too closely resembling" one of the contest entries.

All it takes is one artist saying "I drew this for the niji contest and they're plagiarizing it in this new model and pretending it's original" to throw a wrench in any new liver wave.