/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

It's over
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1556905131869818880
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1556905131869818880
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1556905131869818880

>>55543189
Hololive Global 2.0

>made it to reply limit
I had forgotten what it was like without bumpschizo

>>55543189
kikeknogs need to off themselves and go back to their dead general

>>55542663
That motherfucking whore didn't choose IRyS.....

Why didn't she save someone who needs to be saved more

POLL POLL POLL POLL POLL!!!!

http://poal.me/5g3skd

>>55543189
Good op

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

RAIDS ARE FUCKING BULLSHIT

Chumbud claimed the last post >>55543162
Gura got cripple gold
Shiori OP

>>55543239
NIJISEETHE

Thank you for condom supacha guys :)

I cum to every shiori stream, now i have to go on a 10 day break..

>>55543258
It's ok when Nijisanji does it.

>>55543275
>Gura got cripple gold
Hey now you don't know yet
What if someone pulls out a sleeper hit, NijiEN co-okay okay okay well SOMEONE could do it

>>55543316
what's this weakness, VODs are there do your reps

I expected EN3 to overwhelm the industry. They're doing better than most other vtubers but I was hoping for a soulcrushing flex that would demoralize the industry outside of Hololive.

>>55543189
sex with shiorin be like
https://files.catbox.moe/qsaiu0.ogg

Why did an anon say that nerissa was mestizo last thread? She isn't. Like not at all.

>gather new audience with Advent
>raid other holos with new audience
What's Mr. Jap's plan with this

>>55543370
But that's what happened tho?

>55543309
No one here cares about her

>>55543239
Cuckbirds..blaming someone again..

>>55543189
Do you think Shiori eats Pagpag?

>When Shiori gets raided
:(
>When Shiori raids someone else
:)

>>55543385
I think people from the Spanish Empire just assume anyone that isn't pure-blooded from a certain race to be "mestizo."
Like, if an Italian and an Irish person had a kid, they'd call that a "mestizo." Maybe?

>>55543401
That's just minor twitter salt, it happen for everything.

>>55543374
>sex with Shiori
>post IRyS voice clip

What caused Shitrys to be a sub 5K streamer?

>>55543394
Stretching the box

>>55543401
Man I can taste the salt.

TOTAL HOMOS EXTERMINATION

>>55543394
TOTAL HOLOLIVE DOMINATION

Personally, I welcome this new era of nonstop raids.

>>55543448
Yes

>Mori inclining after Shiori went off
Thoughts?

>>55543449
That's fucking retarded.

>>55543370
Why?
If anything, people will just go back to normal content creators when that happen, then we will go back to the good old JP vs EN again

>>55543470
with no survivors

We're in that rare part of the night where the only people who are streaming are the top-tier fuckable Holos, EN and JP, so treasure that, /#/

>>55543536
Grim

>>55543394
finally building a box for EN, once the new gen audience is interlaced you tie them to the old ones, i'm almost walking back on my opinion of the 1month collab ban slashed and to start collabos when the tourists are still in the system

Yeah, I'm seeing more greys than usual in the raided Holos' chats. The new audience Advent got is staying for the other holos

>>55543536
Holothoughts

>>55543536
grim thoughts

Fine Shiori, I'll give you a sub.

>>55543565
Why are kikeks like this?

>>55543448
Nah raiding sucks in general. Ruins any understanding of a chuba's power level and thus the sport of numberfagging.
Brand numbersfags will call me a sister for caring about individual numberfagging though.

>>55543598
Why do kikeks come to the numbers thread?

>>55543401
He's been spamming the same thing every thread. He's either a retard that thinks they should have crushed the JP market and EN market, or just some false flagger. Everyone in the EN market outside of HoloEN was saying they were crashing because the EN market is dying and the fad is over. EN3 showed them it was a skill issue.

>>55543449
I mean mestizo is just mutt in spanish no?
I imagine north italians consider south ones to be arabic mutts

>>55543465
Herself

>>55543536
Mori is going to unironically get a Fifth or Sixth wind out of new Advent viewers, isn't she
The Wild Ride will literally never end. In a way, I'm sure that makes deadbeats happy.

>>55536070
Sauce on pic?

>>55543615
So true sis! #cut4hex

Where did the graph anon showing us inclines/reclines go

God I'm curious what EN is gonna look after 30 days of Advent+Gooba nigh daily streams

>>55543045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW9UfDonid8
I'm not sure if the dog language is French, but I saw anons said something like this before.

>>55543448
Should have raided Mori, she needs those numbers more than Mumei

How did Moom succeed and Irys flop???
Is she shitrys?

>>55543536
Shiori stole some deadbeats. Now Mori's the number 2 choice for them.

>>55543615
It's ok when Nijisanji do it.

>>55543646
Northern Italians literally invented social darwinism to justify being racist to southern Italians after Risorgimento

>i get prime jerkoff material with the ShioRissa collab
I'm not out yet..

>>55543683
Bi-monthly checkins

>>55543316
Good do your no fap reps

>Shiori has raided 3 different members that are not advent so far.
>Exposing new Holo fans to other members
Based.

>>55543449
Mestizo applies only to descendants of American natives and I think Asians (half-Malayans/Pinoys) were also branded mestizo. Half-blacks are mulatos. Black-amerindians are sambos, etc.

t. Spic

>>55543189
Hahaha, Irys numbers in the garbage

>>55543247
Nothing surprises me for seeing Calli at 1st place but holy shit.... IRyS being second and beating Kiara is somehow surprises me

>>55543247
Clear winner

Mumei loves Riizoto it's over.

>>55543615
I findd it funny that you complain about it now when you probably crucified the cripple tally fag when he tried to remove raid peaks last year

>>55543646
yup south italy and the islands, but that's compounded by greek first and spanish later rule for centuries so you have mori (literally brown/arabic) as term.

>>55543829
Girl's got some niji schizos, what can ya do

>yesterday's Mori retention
>Mumei retention
So viewers need to literally be forced into another Holo's stream to watch it?

Is the Jap sysrtem slowly rebuilding the EN box while attracting people in the JP box?

>>55543247
>Calli

>>55543829
IRyS deserves it more tbqh

>>55543246
Fuck off iryskek
Mumei is better

>>55543370
>I expected EN3 to overwhelm the industry.
He knows nothing before EN3

dorya

>>55543829
We're being raided by sistersseething about IRyS. Pretty much it

>>55543615
Based

>>55543246
Maybe cause Mumei is better?

>>55543246
Last time she raided IRyS it blead out fast.

>>55543862
People are lazy, more news at 11

>>55543750
The better TimeRyS

>>55543914
ssg garbage collector

>>55543647
Not him, but if you're retarded and believe that the Myth fad of 2020 was somehow the normal state of the EN market numbers then it did/does seem to be dying.

>>55543615
This is like saying it should be illegal for batters in baseball to have people who run for them after they hit the ball
You can say it's bullshit, but it's part of the rules

>>55543980
>Irys becoming en watame

>>55543952
>blead out fast
>2 hours
sure sister

>>55543615
>Raids used in NijiEN, ineffectively, with poor retention, basically just distorting their peak statistics without actually helping them
crickets
>Raids used in HoloEN extremely effectively to pass around the Advent tourists and cement them into the box permanently, with impeccable, industry-leading retention
whine whine whine whine whine

>>55543972
don't jinx them
TimeRyS was known as the best duo in very early days of Council. Look how it ended up

Mumei is so smuch superior than kekrys

>>55543829
The sisters have been seething about IRyS for a long ass time. She is one of the most well liked HoloEN members. Let the sisters seethe.

>>55543862
>anon finds out that users are exceptionally lazy and literally need to be lead by the nose
Nice job!

this fucking thread is just getting worse, Chart-anon is gone, SC-anon gone, News-anon also gone and Clips-anon too. there's only third world schizos left..... GRIM

so when's the bae and shiori chinese only collab stream?

Shiori already did handcam? That's neat

Why does Mooms love Hooters so much.

>>55543843
You find it funny since you wrote a fanfic about me and what I thought back then

>>55544015
cheating yiutube algo boost doko

>>55544034
That was Kromei

>>55544042
I fucking love lying too, sis, we should make out

>>55543924
I hate Irys coz she turned the best gen name, council, into councilrys which is giga retarded

>>55543246
I'd rather watch Mumei than IRyS though...

>>55544038
>sisters
>s

>>55544075
You know how it is

>>55544030
Or...I disliked both.
I'm one of the many people who made many screenshots mocking raids or "wow x girl is inclining let's take a look at her stream oh right, it has 20 fucking nijis in it". Stop assuming I'm a nijinigger is it really so goddamn incomprehensible that I'm someone with a distaste for raids?

>>55543615
mysta raiding into itself or the whole branch pummeling one stream before was ok i guess

>>55544069
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aNUz1NK8gwE
She's just speedrunning all the buffs.

>>55544050
>Shiori
>Chinese
No way lmao

>Irys a dun 5K streamer
EN is helaing

>>55543646
>>55543449
Mestizo is just the word for mixed race.
But is mostly used for white-native american. Coming from the empire times

>>55543972
I doubt it. What makes TimeRyS great isn't just that they are super comfortable with each other and bounce off each other fantastically. It's the fact that IRyS brings something out of Kronii that no other member can. It's like Kronii is only truly comfortable enough to let loose and be herself when IRyS is around.

It's my favorite combo in HoloEN.

>ctrl + f "shior"
>1/150
>160+ ips
I fucking can't bros

>>55544042
All of them are alive but SC anon and he can stay dead for all I care. All he did was flood the thread with text-limit length posts for weeks on end instead of putting it in a picture or pastebin

>>55544120
Less tears so we can understand you please

>>55544077
Where were you when the cripple fag tried to remove mystas afterparty stream due to a self raid then? Cause im pretty sure nobody defended him back then and people just dogpilled

>>55544167
>no other member can
there was another one

IRyS hitting 5k and making the tally on part 3 of fucking SOMA in this overlap is pretty impressive. She is as stable as ever. I was expecting 3k like Mori is currently getting.

>>55544191
>ctrl + f "mo"
>1/151
Moom won

>>55544191
EN3 /#/'s queen

>>55544151
>raiding sucks
>so you like niji raids huh
no nigger, that's a whole other sentence

>>55544042
>he doesn't know about the actual numbers thread
this thread is a honeypot. the actual thread is elsewhere

>>55544152
Well OK anon what the hell do you want us to do about it? Hang on, let me get Neal on phone and tell him to turn them off because some anon doesn't like it. Or maybe we could call Jap and tell him to let all of these tourists shake out of the box, rather than introducing them to the other girls and turning them into overall Holo fans slurping up merch 6 months from now

>>55544152
>I'm someone with a distaste for raids?
>only becomes very vocal when holo does it

>>55544246
eeehhhh she made it on but let's not go overboard and say it's really super stable with that
The fact that she had to do 3 streams of this game just kinda shows that she's stupid (non-derogatory), the fact that she managed to stream long enough to get to 5k on part 3 of this game just accentuates that.

>>55543853
>mori
excuse-moi?

This has to be sisters falseflagging, I refuse to believe the Holofans itt are this dumb.

>>55543401
>retweet niji stuffs
of fucking course

>>55544246
>I was expecting 3k like Mori is currently getting.
Didn't she get raided? She made the tally, right?

>>55544246
>Soma part 3
Wait isn’t Soma supposed to be finished in like 6 hours ?

So how did mumei incline whereas Irys reclined?

>Debuts a new gen
>HoloEN is healing
Wow it's that fucking easy
Why did they wait 2 fucking years again?

A question for True numberbros

Has there been a situation where A raided B and B bled 100% of raid very quickly and the 100% funnel goes to C?

>>55544371
Its all Omegays fault

>>55544371
NijiEN psyopsed everyone into thinking male vtubers are viable

>>55544364
It's a game that's somewhat smart
And boy
She is not smart

Who won? Gimme numbers damn it

>>55544021
Oh nyo. So true sister. This is what you wanted me to post right? So you could shit on IRyS? #cut4hex

>>55544371
Sana fucked everything in the first year and Tempus in the second.

>>55544324
Her forte has always been streaming long enough to pick up the scraps

>>55543607
>3/5 frfr

>>55544220
Idk, must have not been in that specific thread. But I was calling for raids being bullshit and filtered from the start.
You idiots have me wrong anyway. I'm lamenting that its all raids now, not expecting the prestigious cripple tally council to filter them NOW specifically or some shit. Not that it would matter since HoloEN crushes with or without.

But let's not act like we didn't switch to talking averages more often when Nijiniggers were spamming the fucking things. Let's not act like we didn't mock Tempiss and their raid baby shit.

This narrative of "everyone was okay with raids and never said a word against them until advent" is bizarre.

>>55544394
The luca to Selen raid, yeah

>>55544371
StarsEN

>>55544394
I can think of a few times where the first half occurred (that one Selen Overwatch stream for instance), but I can't think of any scenario where the second half did.

>>55544042
>grim

>>55544443
And the kikek reveals himself at last

>>55544246
>in this overlap
She couldn't hit 5k until Shiori ended, so her only overlap was Mumei and Mori. And frankly Mori isn't really a factor with Final Fantasy, so it was really only Mumei. Not bad, but not a crazy feat

>>55544246
Irys keys haha

>>55544191
I still don't know where the seethe is coming from. It's absolutely abnormal. Is it because she didn't perform as bad as this board hoped she would? Runts used to be laughingstocks, not seethe central.

>>55544412
It's really not that hard tho
>Step one: Be the first to the market
>Step two: Obtain the Mandate of Heaven
>Step three: Don't fuck it up

>>55544342
yeah singular moro plural mori, a very dark brown hair color when used for a person, yeah that person is dark brown kek.

>>55544191
Shiori and Fuwamoco are the dual Advent queen of /#/s, for completely different reasons. God bless.
Meanwhile pebbles comfypost here and jailbirds are completely absent for some reason.

>>55544444
checked and truth'd. it's a really weird attempt at revisionism couched in the dumb company war that this thread seems to solely be about now.

>>55544420
Right now Goobah is winning Cripple with 20k
I don't THINK I've seen a higher JP but we all know how that goes in a few hours

>>55544246
What is this cope?
She is a shitter now

>>55544371
Tempus had to fail. The lesson had to be learned. It's like the hit movie Looper starring Bruce Willis and young, disturbing CGI pseudo-Bruce Willis

>>55544412
I blame the chinks

So far only Nerissa has peaked a 4view stream with Hololive Error.

>>55543401

>>55544371
>debuts males
>the whole industry fucking nosedives
wow, anywa-
>debuts males again
there's your answer

>>55544541
Rissa didn't stream today so i can see why especially after that dox shit, no reason to enter the thread.

>>55544444
We did, and we still do it also makes talking about Twitch streams much more bearable because that hellsite is the reason people hated raids in the first place.

>>55544371
Sure, lets see if EN will heal if the new gen debuted under omegay nigger

Although the 2 years were grim and shitty I think the hardship was the only way Council shaped up to meet the holo bare minimum standard.

>>55544494
IRyS has always been the EN garbage collector which is why her position as a mid-tier EN is misleading

>>55544596
Not really sure how to judge her at this point, she has the worst overlap of the bunch and has largely played shit in her first week.

Why?

>>55544583
It's basically like the square airplane windows thing. Someone had to trip headfirst into it before the rest of the industry found out, and it just so happened that cover did

>>55544697
She btfo the beggars and got spammed with supas.

>Ibrahim Z is counted since we have always counted Z in the past
>Noo Sana Z doesnt coun !!!!! I thought you people hated Z's
Kek even after a year they never change their style

>>55544541
>jailbirds are completely absent for some reason.
Girl's just fucking normal, man
It's hard to build a fanbase when you're competing against
>Cute and Funny 2.0: This time as a Zoomer that isn't fucking Australian and also not obnoxious about zoomerisms
>The Twin Terrors of EN3
>Ms. La Petite Schizophrenic
Genuinely, she's gotta work overtime to build that fanbase up, it's gonna be a longer term process than it was to make Ruffians, Novelites, Pebblephiles, etc

I wonder if HoloEN3's story about repeating their audition and the rise of small corpos would be a threat to NijiEN's scouting team. No matter how horrible Niji's management and pay, it's still better than being a 2views indie. Now, unless they're a male or a fan of Niji, I think any self-respecting talented vtuber will choose the small corpos while keep applying for hololive

>>55544420
Goobs followed by Shiori-n~. Then the twins.

>>55544691
She's the only one to not have received a raid other than a waiting room (hours prior) as well.

>>55544697
My cute autistic girlfriend

Ccv predictions? I hope they would have multiple orgy sessions with ghosts.

>>55544697
QnA stream

>>55544432
>Sana fucked everything in the first year and Tempus in the second.
Remember Sana gave a prep talk to Tempus right before she left?

>>55544444
I said a bad word about raids but only in the context of raids with bad retention, and I think that was pretty damn common. Raids with bad retention are shit, they fuck up your algo and they introduce false peaks. But raids with good retention are good.
I can't speak for other anons but I personally have been very consistent about that.
You mention discussing average more: That only helps if raids have dogshit retention. Good retention raids will buff your average too.

>>55544444
>we

>>55544656
Naa, she is just shit

>>55544697
canacucks are profitable

>>55544731
Well at least she will be like her oshi

>>55544767
20k minimum if it's single POV

>>55544774
Tempus was fine in the first few months though, it was after their debut month when things went to shit

three- two EN live streams at this hour. Are you not impressed?

Magni's roomate said he will be doing more streams since he has more time since yesterday.
So not looking good.

>>55544731
Nerissa will be like Mori. Medicore viewership for streams but massive viewership for songs.

>>55544767
15k

So why is Irys such a failure?

Grim

>>55544731
If you seriously think any of them have an actual fucking fanbase here after a week you're a complete tard.

>>55544444
Yesterday FWMC won without a raid and today Guaranteed without raid.

>>55544494
IRyS is the first choice of very few people despite people liking her. The only time she does decently is if shes the only one streaming. If you put her right in the middle of Advent + Gura overlap she'd probably only get around 3-4k monthly avg depending on what she's streaming.

>>55544444
>Idk, must have not been in that specific thread.
Or you just choose to pigeonhole it
This is the same shit with Ibrahim and Sana last year where people were calling out Z peaks but ignored it until Sana did it during her graduation and now people were calling Z peaks as dishonest.

>>55544867
Eh, I'm not gonna count her out yet. We're only a week into this thing. All she needs is a breakout moment and the whole trend will fucking snap into a new gear.

>Towa birthday totsu
I don't want a m*le gold..

>>55544697
EN GFEtubers are freaking lame when Twitch thots exist.

>>55544767
two niggas who cant carry a tune to save their lives

>>55544795
Replying to bait but IRyS is probably the most average holo in terms of numbers in EN, well at least before Advent. Makes her a good measuring stick in that regard, in fact that's likely how I'll make my judgements on where the Advent members end up placing after the debut hype wears off

>>55544767
25k.

>>55544767
22k

>>55544863
>check twitch
>he really is streaming
lol
dude looks completely normal too

>>55544848
very, having few members in jp doing early evening streams really extend the schedule, 10hrs of continued stream is a godsend

>>55544731
She has a nice voice and a good model. She's played shit games but seems stronger than Bijou right now, Bijou has just benefitted from starting first most of the time.

>>55544551
>it's a really weird attempt at revisionism couched in the dumb company war that this thread seems to solely be about now.
You mean just like Z's right? about how we shouldnt remove them from the tally because thats always been the case until holo's suddenly did it as well then it became a problem.

>>55544900
I became a 'crat after literally her first stream and feeling fucking electric tingles go down my spine, I have no doubt that the same thing happened to at least some anons

>>55544900
# was my oshi and my main enjoyment of vtubers was shitposting, now I'm a ruffian

>>55544933
Noel and Aqua will be at it

>suichan collab
rrat killed easily

>>55544934
I want a gf not a whore

>>55545006
BAUSEDD

>>55544897
>33
Grim

>>55543504
>ISRAEL
The fuck???

>>55545004
>>55545006
Uh huh.

It's amazing how the Enna schizo controls this thread, everyone just follows whatever retarded shit he posts

>>55543792
take this deamanumberfaggot back to this junk yard.

>>55545042
Same thing Shiorifag

>>55544767
I'll probably cum a few times

>>55544371
Tricked management into thinking the west wanted males.

>>55544904
As a long time follower of IRyS I think it's actually the opposite. She is the first choice of a large amount of people and IRyStocrats are super super loyal. The issue though is that she has very little casual viewership. It's just the hardcore IRyStocrats watching her and since her viewership is pretty decent they are pretty numerous.

It also explains her songs. They usually get decent first week viewership since the numerous IRyStocrats are doing their reps. Then the viewership just dies since there is very little casual viewership to keep it going.

>>55544767
Sub 25k.

>>55544934
I'm convinced that somehow Pikamee and Shiori got swapped by mistake. Shiori is vshojo incarnate, I don't understand why she is a holo. She's even got the moose's autism

>>55544842
Honestly I think one of the many factors that ruined them is the tardwrangling. they did it too much which sometimes came off as open hostility to the audience. No one watches streams to get lectured by some fucking zoomer fuckboy. Even Hololive girls who lecture their audience see a decline in viewers. If someone's fucking up chat ban them and move on. You don't have to run your mouth to get the point across.

>>55545052
Legit, gura was my most liked but I just watched her and wished her well, the dogs have already turned me into their gosling slave

>>55545090
NIJISEETHE

>>55544985
It'll be hard to properly test that idea since Biboo is keeping the streams up every single day. No control to see how she'd be without a Biboo variable.

Mumei ending, IRyS might get the boost she needs for 6k

>>55545114
How are you gonna shoot your loads out more than once like, an hour
Only women can do that

>>55544697
The "Scarle" read all SC's not matter the color maneuver since stream is mostly chatting anyway.

>>55543504
One of the top coincidences in Virtual Youtubing.

>>55544753
Don't Nerissa and the twins have raids disabled? Or did they enable them recently?

>Wrong OP
>Rampant low quality baits and biters
>Accepting raids
# is dead. And yes, raids are bad whether it's holo or niji raiding..

>>55545143
>She is the first choice of a large amount of people
That's demonstrably not true.

>>55544934
Talking about GFE not whores.

>>55545149
>begging

God why did Kiara sign up if she had, and still has, no intention of actually practicing to get better.

moom gone

>>55545149
>implying Pikemee isn't Vshojo tier

>>55545143
>They usually get decent first week viewership
This just isn't true at all outside of Idol which had a massive algorithm boost due to all the other covers of it being released.

>>55545219
I think this is an issue have. I can go 3-4 rounds in a row

>>55545261
Literally the same

>>55545270
Why did IRyS, Ame and Mori sign up if they had and still have no intention of practicing to get better?

>>55544444
My take on raids is "don't hate the player, hate the game". No matter how much this thread complains, Youtube isn't going to remove it. It's not like it's unfair either because everyone can do it. And besides, the 'worst' case of it ruining stream peaks really doesn't matter that much because as you said, we can discuss stream averages instead and the tallies are just for the thread's entertainment

>>55545219
Do your stamina reps, 5 minutes is more than enough

>>55545251
You can check out any time you like.
But you can never leave.

>>55545280
she's still in mah heart though

>>55544863
Reminds me of Rushia just before her termination got announced.

>>55545248
They have always had them enabled. Hard to get raided when you're one of the first ones to start and you're not playing a long game.

>>55543566
>1month collab ban slashed
Up to this day I still dont if collab ban is good or not.

collab ban = force 5 strangers to build unity within gen, it might or might not work

no collab ban = 5 strangers can choose to bond with whoever suits them the most

>>55545324
They didn't think it was going to be full of tryhards

W/Remi is cute in a retarded way. And she has no gag reflex

>>55545152
Nah, the big thing that made them go to shit is antagonising the holobox. The two major events was the squad collabs and the debut of tempus 2, the first of which set them against the primary audience who hoped for them to be similar to the JP stars, and the latter pissing off everyone who've been asking for EN3

>>55545143
>She is the first choice of a large amount of people
As a former IRyStocrat of over a year, this is false. Her number gets slaughtered during overlap. You can activity see her bleed a large amount anytime another holomember start when she streams early JP time. You can also see this in Collabs with multiple PoV. Her numbers are almost always the lowest.

>>55544863
Wheres the notice Cover????

Why didn't Mumei raid anyone

>>55545090
Not my problem. Tell your organ liver lungs and dogshit fanbase to stop yabbing.

>Advent tourists need to be escorted to other EN streams via raids
How would you fix this? You can't keep raiding forever

>>55545421
scared of buttons

>>55545324
Mori has actually said she's practicing off stream. Ame knows how to play Moba and has actually played Pokemon Unite before. I don't watch IRyS so I don't know her standing. Even now Kiara was like "I already know the basics of the game so I don't really have to practice more so I'll just play GTA instead :)". Like she has no fucking intention of not playing like a fucking 3 year old.

>>55545393
>Former IRyStocrat
Ok sister

>>55545287
At least she didn't spend her last stream talking about period blood and markiplier

>>55545270
She thought it was just gonna be a fun little collab not a serious tournament endorsed by the official pokemon company

>>55545270
>Shion and Okayu on JP
>Kaela and Kobo on ID
Why even bother practicing? It's not like EN stands a chance against the tryhards.

>>55545370
More the management desperately pushing them to participate

>>55545421
Older gens never learned to raid and are basically ego andys

>>55545443
If they get interested the point is they'll learn to manually go to the stream themselves.

>raids are now suddenly bad when holo does it.

>>55545251

So true sis! #cut4hex

>>55545339
Yea that's why I am visiting less since EN3 debut.

>>55545421
Too late for raids, don't want to hurt anyone's channel

>>55545443
>You can't keep raiding forever
Why not?

>>55545362
Really? I thought Kiara complained about being unable to raid the twins before.

>>55545380
I agree that was the primary factor. I just think they fucked up in more ways than one. After all, if they were entertaining, someone outside the holobox would watch them. No one does though, so they just aren't entertaining. I guess what I mean is, if they were good streamers, they wouldn't need the holobox.

>>55543189
Finally, a good OP

Outside of Bijou none of EN3 really stream long hours do they

>>55545481
If you want to view things at the most negative AND be wrong, be my guest

>>55545507
IRyS?

>>55545421
Fuck raids

>>55545450
Mori "practiced" for Shadowverse and got steamrolled and has said she's practiced for other shit when she clearly hasn't. Ame hasn't practiced and didn't intend to, thanks for agreeing. IRyS will literally not lift a finger unless it's reading trashy manga, speedwatching anime or playing splatoon.

IRyS 6k dorya

>>55544140
multiple IPs still count

>>55545536
>3/5 remember to sell!

>>55545380
Which at that point was pretty much the entirety of the fanbase*
Fatfingered the post button

>>55545541
Frequent moderate streams are way better for the algorithm

6K doryaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>55545535
Yeah the hires for tempus were just legit dogshit, that's all it ever was

>>55545533
Raiding isn't always on or off. You can be open to anyone or you can whitelist specific channels.

>>55545443
>You can't keep raiding forever
Yes, you can. It's not even hard to set up.

Worms tournament doko?

>>55545450
IRyS is the same as Mori, doing it offstream.

>>55545443
once they have enough holo watchtime or the fall in the rabbit hole the issue will sort it out by itself

>>55545584
Why are kikeks like this?

>>55545533
They didn't whitelist Kiara. You have to manually add everyone you want to be raidable

>>55545492
Thread would probably be better if you left permanently since all you do is whine

>>55544430
>Took an hour to bleed roughly 50% off
NTA.
You might not think so, but that was actually decent retention. Bad raids are those that bleed off within 10-15 minutes or so (ref: Niji raids)

total raidkek death

>>55545561
>IRyS will literally not lift a finger unless it's reading trashy manga, speedwatching anime or playing splatoon.
Or shlicking to BL

>>55543504
>>55543506
Now kiss

>>55544430
What went wrong... Soma isn't even a bad game.

>>55545596
Eh, the clown seems to have found a way to make it work.
One out of eight.... well it is bad, I was gonna say "ain't that bad" but no it is bad. Just, it ain't complete failure.

Lel there's a dedicated kikek janny here

>>55545633
So true sis! #cut4hex

>>55545621
im invsting in kikicoin since i have a feeling she might incline to 4view or 5view soon

>>55545621
>3/5 frfr this time

>>55545598
yeah, it's pretty fine grained.
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>>55545443
>You can't keep raiding forever
twitch host circlejerk says hi

>>55545624
Yeah all those whining posts are me and my smart fridges, and my dogs' wifi anal beads too.

>>55545693
Shinri is doing okay too, honestly. He has a very niche appeal but that's a 700 ish niche so I wouldn't say he's bad

>IRyS 6k
I guess she's safe.

>>55545443
Twitch: Just watch me.

>>55545443
>You can't keep raiding forever
With good retention? yes you can. You even can with bad retention, of course, but I would never advise that, I think there's enough evidence to be leery of showing the YT algo extremely poor audience watch times.
But you shouldn't need to, they'll sub to the girls they like once they seem them in raids, and then they start going to their streams directly if the content interests them, or the algo will shill the streams and surface them to their homepage. That's what a box is on YT. Raids just make it easier.
>But raids don't work!
Yes they do, if the content is a good match. Hololive content is all pretty synergistic. You're dealing with cute girls here, just different genres.

>>55545710
Lol
Lmao

>>55545755
Now you get it

>>55545695
Grim

>>55545629
It may be good over all i guess, but it's not nearly as good as the Mori and Mumei retention from the raids. I also noticed there was another IRyS raid that I missed that showed similar retention to Mori last night so maybe the audience is learning to fuck off if they don't want to be raided.

>>55545755
>my dogs' wifi anal beads too.
You know that's mean to do to Mococo after her tummy hurt during the last stream, Fuwawa, not cool

>>55545695
>pander to /vt/
>get shit numbers
Many such cases

>>55545804
i just have a gut feeling that she will incline out of the blue within this week or month

>>55510122
The berylschizo is losing it

>>55545766
Imagine the world if Omegay had put the second gen as the tip of the spear instead of the first gen.
Man would probably still have his job, for one.

I do feel bad for the girls that stream earlier that literally will never get a raid.

>>55544038
Who likes her other than Mori and Bae??? Nobody in hololive talks about IRyS or collabs with her other than this two and even that is mostly due to their podcast.

>>55545561
>>55545450
IRyS said yesterday that she practiced off stream. Tried Snorlax, but wasn't really successful with it.
She wanted to do a Pokemon United stream, but hadn't decided it yet

>>55545143
I've been a day one fan and this is not entirely wrong. but I need to add:
we know she streams for so long there's no pressure to pick her during overlaps. IRyS will stream 4-5 hours so if during those there's an overlap you can safely go watch the other girl and come back after she's done with her 1 hr stream. IRyS will likely still be at around the same spot she was (lol but true). This is similar to Fauna except Fauna has almost no overlap due to her time slot. Bijou has a similar situation where you can always leave for the other stream and return to her when she's still streaming.
Numbers-wise this is a good technique, it builds the holobox by ensuring you have coverage at all times, viewers also start bulding familiarity and loyalty to the girls they see so often, while the short streamers add variety and excitement thorough the day. Ideally you want a good mix of both long streamers who keep the holobox glued together and short streamers who keep the box varied, this was likely (?) planned by management if they know what they're doing.

Did someone just find out kiki was a thing or something?

>>55545860
Get ready for thread nuke I guess

IRyS poll 2k votes over about a minute and half at near 6k CCV

>>55545451
lol. You are delusional if you think everyone is falseflagging. If you are a member you'll notice that all these movies I've rented were for her Movie Watchalongs. I stopped membering her since late 2022.

>>55545914
Flare said she has sex with IRyS all the time

>>55545910
And they will be shit on here for their numbers

>>55545541
It's much more important to have consistent, frequent streams, than to stream long hours, especially in a system where you want to funnel viewers inside the box.
Although if you're playing long debuff games like JRPGs you probably want to marathon that shit to finish it ASAP, so long streams will be necessary. Kinda wondering how Sakura Wars V will work out for the twins, if they keep doing 2 hour streams it might take them like 10 streams or more to finish it, assuming they want to finish it (which im not sure about)

So why does Irys Suck at getting numbers during overlaps?

>>55545090
Tell your garbage fanbase to stop being subhumans crying about being bullied while exhibiting subhuman behaviour peak nijinigger

>>55544933
Noel will be doing a 3D LIVE with guests. This will be the stream to beat for today I think. Unless Towa starts call-in with someone unexpected / very hyped.

>>55545899
he's going to be really upset when she's moaning like a slut in phase or pissing in a cup for idol.

>>55545941
>be /here/chuuba
>get /here/schizos
Many such cases

>>55545090
So true sis! #cut4hex

>>55545629
>Bad raids are those that bleed off within 10-15 minutes or so (ref: Niji raids)
All nijis streams with degenerate styles. Raid doesn't retent well means there are many different degenerate styles of Niji. Nothing much in common. Fanbases don't like each other if even they are all degenerates.

On the other hand, all holo streaming styles are similar which is boring. Which means NIJISANJI WINS AGAIN

>>55545974
FWMC won't be finishing games.

>>55545951
People actually rent movies on Youtube?

>>55545972
You already get spammed
>Who?
When you mention Fauna despite her getting 7-8k lol

>>55545899
The only good shills were the GGN shills

>>55545914
Nerissa was talking about her. She said IRyS has a beautiful voice and she wishes she could sing as well as her.

>>55545941
Some retard tried to anti her here a day ago and then a schizo got obsessed, and either the same guy or a different retard started vaugeposting threats about botting her. Hell if I know why anyone cares about a runt like that, but I guess schizos don't really have the capacity to choose their targets beyond their base impulses.

>>55546030
It was mainly due to convenience5

>>55543647
I was expecting more than what we got. Council tier numbers and dropping fast. In a month they will be 2k-5k and no one will be above 600k subs. I was hoping for something industry defining, not just another Hololive gen. Is hololive on top? Yes. Is it by a "fuck you" amount? No, other corpos can still compete.

>>55545979
kekerino kekerooo kekkitty kekkerek

I can't watch the same game 25 times only played by a different holos, I need, I need minecraft colabs

>>55546035
That's only because they were correct

>>55544933
anon, Towa won't even get on the podium. Gold is Noel 3D live vs Maimoto final koshien roundup, Aqua totsu with Noel funnel is bronze.

Do the holos commission their own covers, or does Cover do it?

>>55545941
She commented on Nerissa's RM video when that whole doxraid was going on

>>55546056
Other corpos couldn't even compete when 7/10 girls were out of fucking commission.

>>55545951
Nice try sister. Did you "leave" IRyS because of the homos or something? That has to be it. You didn't support her avoiding the homos.

>>55546117
Depends on the girl and the contract but they typically front a lot of the cost themselves.
Cover pitches in a bit, but the girls are taking the brunt

>>55546117
cover is holo

>>55545443
>You can't keep raiding forever
Yes you can
As long your finger is alright

>>55545914
>>55546043
FuwaMoco dedicated their first ever Karaoke song to IRyS niggers
Atleast watch streams
Unlike the meme, IRyS actually has a lot of female viewers(around 10%)

>>55546130
now this sounds like an actual false flag kek

>>55546023
this ESL learned what degenerate means today and is so eager to use it in a sentence

>>55546150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI96hnhcr2E

This one

>>55546044
Because she's a /here/chuuba who has an extremely unhealthy relationship with her thread and so shitting on her here actually gets to her.
It's the same reason for the mori stuff way back when

>>55546117
Cover songs are paid for by the talents, Cover contributes a certain amount for an original song (not sure how often) and any amount over that is paid for by the talent.

>>55545941
kiki was retarded enough to comment on an rm video and someone got a pic of it and posted it here

>>55546117
Covers are talent funded, orisongs have a budget that Cover gives them

>>55544230
more like 3 kek

>>55544767
>all these 20k+ predictions
bruh

Oh no tribalfags
What should we do? Even coffee elf is in

>>55546056
>No, other corpos can still compete.
Such as?

>>55546203
Cover pitched in a bit but Kiara went ham on it with her connections that she's acquired over the last few years

>>55545941
She wanted to be the next Pippa and try to insert herself by commenting on Nerissa's rm.

>>55546234
I warned you about those knife ears bros.

>>55546129
KEK
for real tough Idol and Phase are mid tier corpos now. As soon as 3-4 of their talents hit constant 4-view territory they'll be a serious threat to Nijisanji.

>>55546233
They won't be getting overrun by Gura this time, I'm sure

>>55543615
>Ruins any understanding of a chuba's power level and thus the sport of numberfagging.
Retard. More people seeing my oshi is actually important compared to your feelings and headcanon.

>>55546233
>3/5 Nerrisa debuff

>>55546234
Suisanji strikes again, now dragging another holo along.

>>55546233
She had a massive 12k raided waiting room from Bijou but had to restart her stream. She then restarted it with DVR on, which causes viewers to drop off the count if your stream lags at all.

>>55546282
Pippa already completely mogs NijiEN

>>55546233
>Bijou debuff
>Nerissa channel debuff
C'mon anon

>>55546284
The best thing Gura can do for this is fire up HoloCure for another 6 hours

>>55546056
>in a month they will be 2k-5k
Did you even look at the CCV medians for July? The absolutely lowest HoloEN was Kiara with about 4k. Saying shit like this just makes you look like an idiot
>other corpos can still compete
No, they cannot. As of July, the only non-graduating NijiEN with a median CCV even close to 5k is Luca, while most HoloENs easily pass that mark.

>>55546282
>As soon as
Optimistic there, huh

How can you unironically fix their numbers back to the early 2022 era?

>>55546129
NijiEN was doing pretty well at points earlier this year and last last year, not as much recently though but that's their fault and not Hololive styling all over them. HoloEN still has streams that can lose to other corpos.

>>55546056

>>55546234
hate chinksui and Flaresanji

>>55546025
Yeah I kinda suspect that but we'll see, you never know.

>>55546056
pippa having 1 stream per drama peaking like a mid-holoEN waiting room isn't being competitive

>>55546056
Compete for the raspberry tally maybe.

How so we save Shiori? She'll forever cement herself as the runt with that 10 day break too.

>>55546234
>What should we do?
spread more niji rrats outside here since its fun

>>55546284

>>55546192
never seen any Niji stream thumbnail and decided to show it today

>>55546233
Their gonna get a massive spirit bomb from the twins and bijou collab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z03Fs8FjakI&ab

>>55546375
>3/5 you wont believe it.

>>55546291
>>55546323
Nerissa was neck in neck with Shiori in L4D2 until her stream started to lag. I swear you retards are incapable of looking at contexts like overlap and raids.

>>55546375
Ear licking ASMR and GF roleplay will save her

lmao

>>55546323
Are you implying Shiori is less of a debuff than Nerissa?

>>55546375
Novelites are happy she's the SC queen. Now they have to keep her that way.

>>55546284
Are you sure about that?

>>55546109
Because it was so obvious from the start
Their holo debut and PL debut thumbnails were a dead ringer, and then everyone piled on with tweets comparisons and shit

>>55546387
And chumkeks said they only watch Gura.

>>55545899
does berylschizo even watch beryl? seems like a weird falseflag. i've followed her since her kawaii pro days. even i know she's ngmi for holoen.

>>55546423
It's hard when you're interacting with the retards more than the ones that aren't retards, but that's how it tends to go

>>55545899
>Next big thing
I have nothing against her, but isn't she not even the biggest chuuba in jewcorpo right now?

>>55546375
she doesn't want to be saved

Ok but where is holo Rust or GTA? Are they going to pass summer without any box games?

>>55546345
>millie 3k
>check stream
>enna vox and maybe other people in vc

>>55546457
I thought GGNshill was going off before the actual announcement of EN3, did my timeline get massively thrown off?

>>55546450
USA Weebs and having money. This isnt anime.

>>55543615
I am a different kind of a numberfag. I am not obsessed with golds. The cripple, global, gaijin, and raspberry tallies are still fun. But Selen's outfit reveal stream showed me it can be rigged naturally. And then, there are Zs and potential bots.
It is more entertaining to numberfag on the effects of stream content choices, effects of timeslot, retention (slope), overlap retention, raid retention, floor, ceiling, funneling and many more.