/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Who's IRyS?

>>55429265
No

>>55429265
Holy fuck her singing is so beautiful,
hope they do a karaoke collab some day.

>>55429265
>IRyS
is that a sex toy?

They're like the same person but whatever
At least I don't have to tolerate this bitch anymore

>>55429265
I wonder will Hololive replace her with Nerissa on all the songs/narrations they usually have IRyS doing

Neri is good, but IRyS is better. Gura too when she tries. So Neri is #3 or #4 in EN.

>>55429265
IRyS is better at pretending to be a sister that I have sex with

>>55429265
Only the tempiss collabers will suffer from being obsolete due to homobeggar audience, the unichads will stick by their oshis through thick and thin

>>55429558
this girl has a great singing voice but shitty talking/zatsu voice,
don't get me started with that shitty personality.

her voice is good but she wasn't kidding when she praised IRyS, she needs more practice

>>55429265
are you deaf or an eop?

>>55429265
>People saying she will replace Kronii
>Sings in a higher register replacing IRyS instead
You made a mistake doubting the blue woman alliance

>>55429668
delusional

no she is quite bad at japanese songs

>>55429265
Both are mid at best anon

>>55429814
she is still better Kronii

>>55429668
Kek

>>55429755
>no meantions of men
>immediately brings up a dead and irrelevant branch
mindbroken

>>55429265
Nerissa can’t speak Japanase to save her life. That’s one thing IRyS does better. She just opened anki and learned 2000 kanji out of context, with no grammar, no reading skill or any kind of practice. Kanji alone is useless if you don’t learn how to make sentences....

>>55429265
We don't all have tin ears anon. She's alright and can hit the high notes but something about her singing leaves me feeling nothing. It's not as emotive as some of the other girls.

yeah mogs her easily not gonna lie. i like irys and her sibgning chops are there but it always feels souless.

Nerissa is the fucking epitome of sovl

IRyS is has more training and it shows, but Nerissa has more natural talent albeit undertrained. If she works on her japanese and more singing lessons she can easily stand on a stage on her own one day.

>>55429265
Irys is better at being your kind of dumb girlfriend. Nerissa is your older sister. Different vibes entirely.

Irys is a genuine cute retard. Nerissa reminds me of mori and kronii. Not a good thing.

>>55429265
did something happen in nijisanji again?

>>55429265
>irys
did you wake up from a coma? she was obsolete when council debuted

>>55430131
just like Noel

>>55429265
>holo vs holo
who could be behind this post

>>55430315
bvtm

>>55429265
Rissa's JP language skills are poor and it's kinda showing in her singing right now. She's great for English songs though. Both have pros and cons.

>>55429265
She needs more practice, her Japanese is bad.

>>55429929
She doesn't compete with Kronii in the signing department. Only one in EN is maybe mori.

>>55430315
A holofag?
They don't watch non-holos so can't compare anyone else.
t. holofag

>>55429773
IRyS's personality is pretty shitty when you consider everything.

>>55429265
kronii deflection thread

>>55430449
nobody can compete with Kronii, Fauna and Ame

>>55430315
It shows how far nijis have been floundering that they have to bait post holos vs themselves instead of holos vs nijis.

>>55429265
Honestly, I do think Irys needs some kind of change

I don't know what though.
The 2.0 was supposed to be that turn around and it just hasn't happened.

There's something Irys is missing, either she's being restricted by something, she's not giving it her all, something.
I don't know what it is and I can't put my finger on it,

It feels like she's just going through the motions without really doing anything worthwhile.
Maybe advent will inspire her to try harder.
Maybe Dimitri Jap will reinvent her like AZKi.

>>55429265
Nerissa is not doing as well as hoped, but maybe she’s nervous. It’s actually not too good

>>55430111
It feels a bit tight? Probably mostly nerves

>>55429265
Don't be mean. I think IRyS has a more interesting personality than Nerissa.

>>55430754
>Pretending that Kronii is on that level to keep up your narrative
Sad

>>55430570
Yeah IRyS's personality is really shitty when you consider how hard I assfucked your mom last night

>>55429265
I'd still say IRyS is the better songstress and I actually like Rissa.
She's good, though, definitely in Holo's upper quartile.

>>55430570
>when you consider everything.
huh? do you even watch her?

>>55430131
>i like irys
>irys
sure you do

Listening to Nerissa radio and IRyS is far better. She really butchered Plastic Love and removed all the soul out of it. Nerissa already dropping a new cover as a surprise? She looks like sh'es aiming for Mori's throne dumping more music per month.

>>55429265
She mogs at EN songs, but she's weak at JP.

>>55429668

>names two getting absolutely mogged rn

Cope

>>55429265
Nerissa is pretty mid

>>55430810
>Maybe advent will inspire her to try harder.
It worked on the others like gura and mori, hopefully they all get inspired to do things.
this is why getting EN3 was so important for EN.

>>55430131
Here comes the same soulless cope. Just say you don't like IRyS and be done with it for fuck's sake. No need to beat around the bush, this isn't reddit.

>>55429265
shes okay but gonna be honest shes not that good at karaoke

>>55430997
needs some practice and vocal training at least. If ame can show any improvement then she'll definitely get better with time.

Yeah, nah. IRyS remains the queen and it's not even close. Demon Of Sound is not delivering at all.

Honestly, IRyS is way better, but it’s clear Nerissa is nervous. So maybe not counted.

>>55429265
the doggos are better singers than Nerissa

No I am listening now and IRyS is far better. Maybe Rissa is just nervous tho.

>>55429265
irys will always have the horny bimbo niche until somebody replaces her

>>55431058
She was more likeable before [redacted], could have told you more 12 hours ago.

>>55431058
its just the resident schizo

>>55429265
>Great at recording songs
>Can't sing live
She is pretty much how I feel about Axel when he debuted

>great songstress
>still almost having heart attacks from nervousness
How does Holo keep getting this setup?

>>55430844
Nah, she is great, but she is clearly stressed and tense.

IRyS always sounds impressively good live, like better than her recorded voice

>>55431414
>No I am listening now and IRyS is far better
I don’t like IRyS, and much prefer EN3, but you’re 100% correct. I think expectations were too high.

>>55430810
>she's being restricted by somethin
She's being restricted by having her music career run by complete retards and it's killing her motivation to even try.

>>55429265
Nah, Nerissa needs to work on her live karaoke, IRyS is clear and this ia from someone who thinks IRyS is mid
And just as I type this, she's already messing around in the middle of her songs, Mumei style. It's over.

>>55429265
Who's irys?

>>55431529
I agree, she’s obviously nervous. But that’s also why it’s not as good as it could be. Hard to sing like that anon. Not her fault IMO

Rissa's first time, so it can be better. But IRyS is clearly far ahead.

>>55431344
Demon of soup*

>>55431529
I think her Japanese is just bad, I'm looking forward to unarchived karaoke, should be much better

>>55431344
Lots of copes, like this, here ... face it, Nerissa mogs .. simple as

>>55431496
oh wow she's nervous? Just like how Mumei was a mess during her first week.. so much that /vt/ shit on her horribly for it?

>>55429265
Does she always look 72 degrees to the left?

>Stream for more than 5 hours
>Having a cute voice
>Being retarded
If something fuwamoco overlaps IRyS fans, and not even them because they stream for short periods of time

>B-bb-uutt the singing
No one cares, did you retards cared when AZKi was only releasing music?? No, you didn't falseflaggers. The singing part will become a 2 karaokes per month like IRyS and covers, and almost every holo does that. Their way of streaming is completly different, she's kinda like a Kiara with Kronii voice.

>>55429265
She doesn't have a 100m cover

>>55431496
IRyS never seems nervous about singing.

IRyS is legit one of the best EN singers. Nerissa is nowhere close to her. And don't come in here with your chink bitch, she's not that good.

>>55429265
Irys is very obviously more trained than nerissa. You can like nerissa's non-nasally voice more but you're deaf if you can't see how Irys is a technically better singer

>>55432339
She was nervous as fuck anon. Can’t sing well like that.

>ennacucks spend the entire pre-debut period overhyping Nerissa just because they hate IRyS
>ends up she's not as good as everyone thought
Nijiniggers should be publicly hanged.

>>55431864
Yeah her jap isn't that great, but she was making mistakes probably because she was nervous too. When you want to do something perfect, it's always at that moment you are fucking it up.
It will be 100% better when doing karaoke stream will be a normal thing to do for her.
I'm sure she isn't really happy right now because she is clearly able to do better than that.

>>55429265
they both sounds the same to me.

>>55429265
Eh, Nerissa is fantastic, don't get me wrong, but this karaoke showed that she isn't quite at IRyS' level. IRyS sounds perfect during karaoke. So perfect that she sounds just as good as a professionally mixed studio recording. Nerissa isn't quite at that level and was a little rough around the edges.

Either way, Nerissa is a great singer and I can't wait for her and IRyS to do a singing collab.

>>55429265
Is Nerissa mentally 8? If not, I'm not interested in checking her out.

>>55429265
Nerissa and Irys are both welcome into the CGDCT club, keep your bait to homobegging whores

Their timeslots aren't competitive with each other, they'll coexist just fine

>>55429668
delusional paranoid schizophrenic

>>55429668
this is neri with nervous and rushed debuffs, imagine how good she's going to be once she has the time and confidence

>>55433627
Plus she had superchats exploding in her face

>>55430754
kronii isn't a genuinely talented singer, nor does her singing have SOVL.

I think the low singing voice she was using didn't fit most of the songs.

>>55429265
Kys shitposting cunt

>>55431766
that and she's said her voice has been a little sore

Why not both?

>>55429265
Eh... I'm not really feeling it

>>55430032
nerissa learned kanji for her tshirt side business.

>>55429668
You are deaf anon.

Nerissa actually gives GFE

>>55430315
It's from nijinig and the funniest part is it from a nijicuck discord who are a nijigirl fan.

>>55429668
book an appointment with an audiologist

>>55430902
anon, you should notice the sarcasm in that post by noting that it has three of the worst singers in EN

>>55429265
No. Love Irys, love Rissa.

Collab now please.

>gura, mumei and fauna obsoleted by bijou
>IRyS and kiara obsoleted by nerissa
>kronii/ame/ina/mori/bae/etc. obsoleted by shiori
>plus JP experience done better with fuwamoco
holy fuck, there really isn't any reason to watch any EN gen other than advent now, is there?

>>55429668
Why is nijicord targeting this post specifically?

>iryschizo trying so hard samfagging
>get shit so hard in his own thread instead
Lol
>he change so many oshi from Enna > Meloco > ironmouse > mumei and now Nerissa
Guess you will need to find new oshi now , lol

>>55429265
she needs to cover the goblina's songs, maybe she'll do them justice

irys is far more used to doing this sort of thing, but this is nerissa's first time under these particular circumstances. some of you need to remember that.
in terms of potential, i think nerissa has more. irys has stagnated because of terrible management, but this is also not exactly an excuse to actively coast with just gaming, karaoke, and doing constant yabairys stuff. to me, i think she has lost the enjoyment, though she recovers somewhat during karaoke. overall they're both great.
but my fave right now is nopan nee-san

>>55434574
They hate gura because she never acknowledged them "daimond city light, what that". And irys because they think enna better than her when enna is just a nobody in holo mindchair, also she doesn't care about them.

>>55434492
just fuwamoco fuck the rest

>>55430449
kronii is competing in doing nothing department

excuse me but nerissa is my oshi please do not say anything negative about her, thanks

>>55429742
That's Nenechi anon...

Not going to make any comparison yet with someone who has been doing karaoke streams for 10 years versus the first one ever, in a language she doesn't sing in normally.

>>55431150
Nobody got time to commit to that stupid ass spelling nigga

>>55431025
Her rm doesn't like these kinds of memes, just and fyi
If you use them she'll block you from the community

>>55429265
Wouldn't know, didn't watch

>>55435804
I often shit on IRyS by saying she has no emotion to her singing, and that it feels bland, which is very true to me, but from what Ive seen she is still overall a better singer than Nerissa, if only going by what I seen so far. Even if emotion makes music sound better to me, it cannot compensate for what I witnessed. I have to pick IRyS.

>>55429265
Nerissa herself thinks IRyS is better, kys OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15iFb0_aOCE

>>55437037
She's one of those types? Oh no no no no no!

>>55430032
>doesn't speak japanese
Good. She's in EN, it's better that she doesn't.

>>55437563
it's called being humble, retardchama. now imagine if she said she thinks she's better.

>>55429265
Its joever….. you need to find new oshi now…..

>>55439472
Its funny because what she said is literally true, lol
Now keep coping

>>55437393
>Soul meme
Go away

>>55439764
time will tell. you cannot depend on her past performance, or even past past performance, if she isn't doing much with her voice in the present. part of the problem is that she undercuts her own voice by streaming an unholy amount. nerissa is already reaching the line with the daily streams, though it might just be a debut week thing.

>>55429265
Her live singing isn't very good.

>>55439472
True but she didn't just say "IRyS is so good, I hope I can be as good as her one day". That would be being humble. No, she gave specific reasons why she thinks IRyS is better than her which gives it more weight and goes beyond just "being humble". She legit thinks IRyS is better.

>>55440313
>>55440503
You can judge anything based on countless evidence in past 10 years, it will get better fr fr
Dude, you are coping hard rn

>>55440503
Quit trying to pit them together Nijisister. They're both good

>>55440501
cope

Who even is IRyS

>>55441764
The best vtuber in the world

>>55434492

competition within the company is good, a rising tide lifts all boats. plus, they can fill in for each other when one talent is sick or prepping for a major event.

>>55441764
My wife

>>55441391
It probably is cops, but he’s not wrong

i wish fanbases critically evaluated their oshis. none of them are above critique

>>55432186
She knows it's the only thing she's good at because everyone except her dad and her sister always hated her.

>>55429558
>>55429773
Just listened to it but she's no Enna (definitely no Chima) or Millie or even IRyS. Another anon mentioned she has natural talent and with that I agree but she is untrained as she has trouble controlling her decibels and her enunciation of Japanese needs work. I would say Gura has better control then she does. None of those songs fit her vocal range so maybe in the next karaoke she could sing a song that complements her voice.

I think some anon's here are just so desperate for whatever reason deny IRyS when she's a great singer not better than Enna (or Chima) but still great.

>>55429668 >>55429833 >>55431204 >>55433617 >>55433627 >>55434254 >>55434379
I agree with you but it's too early to rank her in my opinion. IRyS is still #1 in Hololive EN with Gura #2. Some of these anon's are coping real hard her nervousness might be a factor but I doubt it. Her control is not good compared to Enna, IRyS even to Gura. She's untrained so maybe once she has a voice coach to help her we'll hear her go all out and know how to control her voice.

>>55437563
Oh shit lol I was just saying this shit too she needs better control but some desperate anon's here don't want to give props to IRyS. Fake fucks need to get lost and start being neutral when it comes to hololive singers and vtubers in general.

>>55445396
More like she trained too much, she talked about this karaoke during every stream this week, she trained every day and over did it. Classic mistake.

>>55429265
t. deaf retard

>>55446077
I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about. I'm sure she'll be able to afford a voice coach because if Nina from kurosanji can go from sounding horrible to sounding way better in less than a year Nari can do it too. It's all up to her.

>>55429265
Holy based

Not a crat but IRyS is better in live, she has the control while Nerissa is somehow not hitting the right notes... yeah I agree with her voice being powerful but that's not the only thing in the whole singing concept. People who probably disagree w/ this are probably deaf or IRyS schizos.

>>55446383
IRyS is the retard. Also her best cover is about to get BTFO'd by Rissa's first release lol

I like IRyS because she is dumb but sweet. Heavy on the dumb, watching her play anything that involves more than 2 brain cells makes me wanna die

>>55429265
I just watched the karaoke, idk wdym but IRyS live karaokes still better imo. man has lacking of vocal control lmfao

>>55445396
Her earlier stream on One-Hand Clapping already shows she's trained (likely in theater). She's just nervous af.

>>55446485
If you can't hear that her voice is already well trained and can do way better than that, then you are the one who know nothing about vocal training and performance. She was out of breath after one song, maybe that will ring a bell in your brain.

>>55446555
I agree.
>People who probably disagree w/ this are probably deaf or IRyS schizos.
A lot of them clearly demonstrate they're one of those two or both at the same time I do want to add that they're so desperate for somebody other than IRyS because of her personality (like some anon's above spitefully talked shit about my Enna Alouette) which is disgusting. Case example >>55446598

>>55429265
idk bout that anon.. After watching Nerissa, It's like there are a lot of things lacking in her while IRyS live karaoke is like studio level.

>>55429265
Except sings better in JP.
Which matters the most in Hololive.

>>55430810
It's literally just the fact that she's the Vsinger. Meaning her output and direction is controlled by Cover or more accurately her retarded project managers. If she was a normal holo her output would be way less but also way better. Can you think of anything more retarded than having enough originals for 3 live concerts but nothing after 2 years?

>>55446984
I'm tired of IRyS because as other anons have mentioned above, she's just coasting in Holo. FOTM games, Karaokes, FPS. It's the same shit over and over. Her music is mid, her whole shtick is being retarded and "accidentally" saying lewd stuff, and being waifu bait for Otaku retards. I'm just hoping we have an actual singing talent that isn't lazy.

>>55446977
You have no idea what she lacks. You're too blind to comprehend wtf you're talking about.

>>55430223
??? Because she has a deep voice? She's nothing like them

>>55447580
>blind
What a dumbass kek

>>55447530
do you even watch her?

>>55447530
>she's just coasting in Holo.
How does one just "coast" as you said? Isn't her job the same as the others in EN? To stream? So you have a problem with lewd stuff? So you have an issue with gachikoi's? What business is that of yours? Just watch a different EN member lol wtf you schizo's are weird af. How tf is IRyS lazy? Singing is not lazy especially with how IRyS sings.

>>55447530
AZKi 2.0, basically.

>>55447530
>Lazy
I don't see the point of what you've said, she literally has almost 20 original songs
> FOTM games, Karaokes, FPS. It's the same shit over and over.
That's like everyone's content retard.

Irys goes viral with all her yabairys shenanigans. She is the Subaru of EN.

>>55447530

>>55447530
????????????? and you're expecting nerissa to focus on music/singing? Almost all she does this whole week is play games though.

>Nerissa's karaoke didn't went well because she was nervous
Naaaah, As a person who knows the forbidden knowledge, She's a professional in-front of audiences, It's just live jp songs isn't for her.

>>55439518
No, this is the finished version

>>55447923
That is technically wrong. IRyS is actually the VSinger and has a different contract than everyone else. IRyS doesn't have to stream at all. So any streams we do get are because she wants to.

>>55448600
>While IRyS: "I just learned this in Yesterday Series"
IRyS in a different level when it comes to song learning efficiency.

>>55440301
No, not soul as you would probably think it, but rather emotional singing like the singer Aurora as an example. It’s rather effective, and when someone doesn’t have it, it truly does hurt them.

>>55448697
I know that but that's not what that anon is saying about her. You should of replied to that guy instead of me.

i swear, most on this thread are tone-deaf ... I love IRyS, always will, but most of the time she's flat during her live singing streams. Japanese may not be Nerissa's forte, but she's on pitch at least. Plus, she only had like 25 minutes

>>55429755
You haven't seen Fauna's numbers lately I take it. On the other side of things Mori is also in an upward trajectory for views lately.

I hate to say this but, the idol corp singer Roca is significantly better than both IRyS and Nerissa. As a singer, she seems wasted on idol corp. However, Roca can be boring on her normal streams.

>>55449057
>she's on pitch at least.
Anon, you're the one whose tone-deaf. She's said it herself she lacks control. Her karaoke I'm sure she hit the red on the decibel scale as some of those songs did not suit her vocal range. Folks like you are only contemplating her loud raw natural vocals only. In karaoke's is when everybody can see who can actually sing from those who need "more assistance" for their cover/original songs and IRyS has shown she can sing, I'll add in Gura too.

>>55449057
She's been a professional for a long time but she still lacks control anon..... you probably like her because of her vocal range. Admit it.

Not seeing a downside to HoloEN getting a 3rd great singer. Given IRyS only does a singing stream every couple weeks, and Gura has only done one so far this year, having Nerissa doesn't make IRyS obsolete, it just expands Hololive's offerings.

>>55429265
be likeable

>>55451408

>>55452165
IRyS is the furthest thing from likeable if you aren't a fat Otaku desperately in need of a Asian wife

>>55449918
>In karaoke's is when everybody can see who can actually sing from those who need "more assistance" for their cover/original songs
Judging her with only one karaoke stream which is her first is absolutely retarded.
Wait for at least one more before judging her talent, this shit isn't The Voice.

>>55449057
You are deaf, anon. Not even counting faans or strangers who might be fans, almost every Holo singers of note, Nerissa included, have praised IRyS's singing even though they didn't have to. I'd expect them to know better than random /vt/ anon

>>55453078
Wow all that singing talent yet all her music flops and no concert in sight lol

>>55453238
People have gone through this before. While her YT views can be better, all her released albums and EPs so far topped chart and did really well - that should count for something (and arguably might be more valuable since you can't just loop sales)
If IRyS's music is a flop, 99%+ of singers' might as well be

>>55429265
This didn't age well after today karaoke + first monetization buff, did it?

She murdered Plastic Love so I just closed the stream there. She could also do something about her setup to improve the sound quality. I will still check an English singing stream because it might be better but this one was very underwhelming.

>>55429265
irys can speak japanese, which means she can collab with the main branch without being a decoration who just repeats a couple of kindergartener-level phrases every so often when prompted

Irys lmao cover had to force her into council to give her a semblance of relevancy after the hard carry by the JP senpais failed

>>55454206
This. All the cope in the thread is from sunk cost irystofags that can't admit that IRyS has checked out of the job. Even shitters like Bae and Kiara have enough relevancy in the company to be asked to be apart of events and official programming.

Both Kronii and IRyS are now irrelevant. There is LITERALLY nothing Kronii does better than Clarissa

>>55454206
She's a council? I thought there was a yab before that she's not included.

>>55454824
It's ok, my wife can have me instead.

>>55454694
This is literally what you're all saying when council debuted to IRyS and Myth.... I'm having dejavu

>>55454825
> Clarissa
literally who??

Tell me the truth anons, you all like Nerissa because of her loud vocals right? Go fuckyourselves and watch Risu instead. She has the vocal control unlike the one ya'll being amazed with. Most of you are literally clowns for defending Nerissa that her karaoke is "toptier".

>>55455618
desu the Karaoke is ok, but yeah it's not what I expected.

>>55455618
Anon, most of this thread are flaseflagging nijifags and phasecucks.
Jailbirds have nothing against Irys.

>>55455618
>People be like: OMG HER VOICE IS SO POWERFUL AWOOOGUGUUGUHHGHG
Fuckoff fatfucks

>>55448007
Not even close dumbass
Never post your stupid fucking opinion about AZKi ever again

>>55429265
Seeing council and myth actually feel threatened by gen3 is toptier comedy

The change in their work ethic and the way they interact with chat is observable

>>55455618
>Why Nerissa's Karaoke didn't went well?
>A. She's Nervous.
>B. It's her first stream .
>C. Japanese doesn't fit her well.
>D. All of the Above.

>>55455618
Buy and add Risu

>>55455990
now we're having a quiz....

SHUT UP AND START SHIPPING THEM OR WE'LL LOSE OUR DEMON DUO TO A FUCKING CHICKEN!!!!!

>>55456146
IRyS is already taken by FWMC and Bijou...

>>55429265
For anyone still here, the biggest problem is that Nerissa can't speak or pronounce Japanese naturally or well enough.
The male equivalent would be Sylvester Stallone trying to sing a Japanese song.

>>55455618
>loud vocals
Yeah and so? Loud raw vocals is most likely the best, I don't really care about your recommendations. That doesn't change the fact that Nerissa is the best singer in whole EN.

>>55429265
I want to suck the farts right out of Nerissa's ass as much as the next guy but IRyS is still better.
IRyS has better resonance, falsetto, head voice, stability. She's still queen

>>55456382
>best singer in whole EN.
whole Hololive*

The demon of sound isn't even top 3 singer in HoloEN.

>>55456524
She's top 1, These CouncilRyS and Myth can't even sing. Have you watched the cover?

>>55455897
IRyS's career as a vsinger looks similar to AZKi's from a management (mismanagement?) standpoint; though, the last time I paid attention to AZKi was literally when Last Frontier was released, and I stopped paying attention to IRyS... a few months after her debut.

>>55456603
>Have you watched the cover?
Studio magic can make Noel sound good, anon.

>>55432491
Trained in the sense that she has amazing control but IRyS doesn't have any formal vocal training

Irys doesn’t oshi fucking KIARA out of all people and swear like a 10 year old. So yeah, I’d say she still has appeal

>IRyS
>Debuted alone
>Being in worst Management
>Delayed projects (Outfits, MVs, Covers, etc..)
>Bad 3D model
>Being compared a lot
>Getting sick frequently due to overwork.
>"A part of council" but in reality, she's not.

>Despite all that she's still streaming with her usual streaming time and doing her best as she could.
Now I felt sad from this Nephilim

>>55457250
>debuted alone
because she pulled nepotism strings to get in

>>55444348
Too bad Enna cucked her fans

im gonna add her to my oshi list

>>55457250
>Debuted Alone
desu this is really sad. Imagine there's no one to share your current experience with... While council, myth, and advent can literally express what they felt to themselves because they're a a unit....

>>55457250
felt pretty bad for her during connect the world .. the group song segments, and she's forced to perform gravity by herself

>>55454206
>>55454694
Do you know how restrictive IRyS's Vsinger contract is anon? Mori has said before how difficult it is to collab with her in anything musical because IRyS doesn't get to decide, her project manager does.

Marine remains the most interesting singer in hololive. Incredibly effective at her style, very nice natural vibrato, her voice is rarely post processed unlike other holos. i am a trained singer.

>>55456722
Vsingers as Cover has done them is fucking lame. Who what's to oshi a Corpo? Who is going to shill and spam replays on songs that the singer not only had no say in but also has no financial stake in? There's no fun saviourfagging for a Corpo, which is half of the whole experience in watching chuubas. They'd actually make more money if they made them regular holos

>>55458226
based

>>55430380
>Both have pros and cons.
I know someone who has all the pros without the cons

Not gonna comment on the technical aspects, but Rissa's karaoke was a little boring. IRyS's karaoke streams are always fun because she's really cute and dorky on top of being a good singer. Rissa only had thirty minutes and was obviously very nervous on top of not having great Japanese though.

>>55457825
Yeah... On one hand I liked it because hey, more IRyS but hearing her talk about after you could tell it really upset her

>>55458258
>They'd actually make more money if they made them regular holos
It's bloody telling that AZKi finally gained traction after she left INoNaKa and joined hololive. If she had joined Suisei back then, who knows how far she could have gone?

Oh well, the past is past. Just gotta wait and see where this takes them now.

Irys is fluent in japanese anon. She can actually communicate and collab with the jp side

I will say hearing her English... In a official cover of a song which can have voices tuned was awesome. I'd put Nerissa very high as far as best English En singer. But as far as JP singing goes I would put at minimum IRyS, Gura, Kiara above her if not others. She doesn't sound awful but she can't hit it as well as they can.

>>55429265
speak japanese

Why are we grading the EN branch on their Japanese singing again?

English singer excelling singing in English? Woah. Hopefully they'll continue to let the member of the english branch release songs in English - unlike other talented singers of the english branch

>>55457884
Not that I doubt you, but do you have a timestamp for that Mori bit? I'd like to keep it as well for my own records.

>>55457250
Dont forget
>ID3 new outfits
>IRyS casual outfit delayed once again

>>55429668
Early Gura was arguably even better than Irys, and she wasn't even serious about singing. So much potential lost on this lazy bitch.

>>55460273
Sorry it was too long ago to remember and I don't watch Mori much. It was during a zatsu or sc reading in response to a chatter asking about a possible collab song. I think it was after their first karaoke collab because Mori was praising how well their voices sound together

IRyS is a good singer by idol standards. She's basically just an idol singer. Meaning she's mediocre at singing but good enough to get the job done and primarily focused on sounding cute. IRyS gets mogged into oblivion by every one of the top Holo singers like Moona, Towa, Kanata, and Suisei. It's not even a competition.

>>55461140
Hahahaha
Besides Kanata and AZKi, IRyS is the best Holo singer for live Karoke

>>55462012
>>55461140
Everyone always spouts the same few names when it comes to singers within Holo
Not even a single mention of Okayu automatically decreases your credibility. Maybe not the #1 spot, but her live singing and covers are all rock solid

>>55462287
Chloe without her debuff voice is also a legitimate dark horse

>>55462287
Okayu is not good at karoke anon. She has the best Hololive songs though.
Like the anon above who puts Moona above IRyS for live singing, it simply shows that people here don't know the difference between live singing and your studio singing

>>55462455
I mean I rather have a good produced song than a good karoke

>>55462455
What's wrong with Okayu's karaoke?

>>55461140
I don't want you are on about, IRyS is considered as one of the best singers ok Hololive for Karoke. She has arguably the best pitch control in Hololive, ffs, she was toe to toe with AZKi during their collaboration. Even Nerissa acknowledged that her pitch control is god level

>>55429265
It feels like Irys has no real personality. I know she is supposed to be "le dumb upbeat girl with the cute voice", but there is such a huge disconnect between this and her avatar that you get this feeling.

>>55462603
Anon listen to her recent karoke for yourself. She used to be descent in 2020, now she puts in more effort in covers and OG songs

>>55462644
>all this utter nonsensical cope
Anon... she's an idol singer. She's slightly above mediocre at best. She's soulless when it comes to singing. She lacks any emotion whatsoever. She's just technically proficient.

>>55462759
>The usual le soul cope
Why did I even bother, yeah you don't even watch IRyS

>>55429265
Sorry but Nerissa will never be Asian and she will never cure my yellow fever.

>>55462705
Ok? It sounds perfectly fine to me, and never did I limit the selection to karaoke only. Her sololive was stellar in terms of live singing on stage.

>>55462869
Anon its true. No amount of cope will change the fact that IRyS is just technical skills and thats it. She has no emotion and no soul in her singing. She might as well be an AI robot.

>>55462759
>Anon... she's an idol singer. She's slightly above mediocre at best. She's soulless when it comes to singing. She lacks any emotion whatsoever. She's just technically proficient.
Atleast come up with an actual flaw instead of uttering words for the sake of an argument. And btw, being an Idol singer doesn't mean you are not a professional singer, so stfu.
If you want to actually point out the flaws, then point out things like how she struggles with songs that require a higher pitch or how she is not good with fast paced music

>>55462705
>>55462455
Why is it always the ESLs that love to run their mouth about singing skill? How the fuck do you misspell karaoke twice and confuse decent and descent

>>55462975
This is the usual cope they come up with.

>>55462975
Has IRyS ever sung Stellar Stellar? Even half-assed in a karaoke?

>>55429265
Nah both are quite mid

>>55463026
>Misspelled one word
>Muh ESL
And No, I am not saying I know everything about music, but the reasoning poeple come up with is just so fucking idiotic

>>55463138
She has sung more complex songs, forget Stellar Stellar anon.
Even her songs (Ai no Jikkai & COD) are comparable to Stellar Stellar in terms of complexity. Not saying they are better because ofcourse Stellar Stellar is just way better

>>55461140
>>55462759
>>55429265
https://www.youtube.com/live/XGzuTH_-dIU?feature=share&t=1176
You fucking retards did you even listen to IRyS's first karaoke? I don't hate Rissa but they aren't even on the same level

>>55463324
Anon, they are your usual thread readers who don't watch her. Don't bother

>>55429265
not watching her for the simple fact she's a English voice actor and friends with Cali.

>>55461140
>>55462759
T.never listened to IRyS

>>55463318
I was looking around for it since it is one of the signature songs for hololive. Oh well.

>>55463215
Alright SEA monkey, provide one non-idiotic difference between Okayu's studio singing and live singing that creates such a power gap between the two.
Surely if you're going to sit on your high horse and talk shit you wouldn't just be telling us talentless retards to listen to it for ourselves

>>55463324
>usual bug level empty emotionless singing as expected from IRyS
Damn you sure showed me! IRyS spent so long trying to get her technicals down she forgot the most important part of singing, actual emotion. Even Gura is a better singer off just that alone.

>>55463532
https://youtu.be/WfCwBFDTvWU
Listen to this yourself and compare it to the actual song.
You really this constitutes Okayu as one of the best?

>>55463532
NTA, but is a common census even among her fans.
Flos is the greatest thing that has come out of Hololive

>>55461140
>Muh no soul

https://youtu.be/7GMHGFyf8Ws
This is not even the best example btw, I searched up Irys karoke clips and this showed up

>>55463951
I swear her singing voice really fit Disney songs.

>>55464180
I will take it as a complement.

>>55463702
I can't really argue against this, but using a clip from 2021 for Mogu Mogu Yummy of all songs seems a bit disingenuous
>>55463836
https://youtu.be/epPYcIwJ5aQ?t=2786
Flos is great and of course it'd never compare to the studio version, but my point is that the live version is not far behind. Her pitch is accurate, her expressiveness is good, and there aren't any glaring flaws on the surface level. Again, like I said, I don't think she's #1, but would you really exclude her from the upper echelon of singers within Hololive?

>>55463951
It's not fair though because she's a literal Disney princess

>>55463951
I will save this clip.
Whenever some retard starts the no emotion cope, I will show them this. And it's not like this is the only example, IRyS doesn't seem to have that many singing clips besides having the best Karaoke numbers behind Gura and on a similar level as Mumei

>IRyS sings emotionless
I don't really know what you all guys talking about and I don't really care about that shit. Either you agree with me or not, but this song filled with emotions and hits different. This is literally my comfort song during my hard times....

https://youtu.be/p_wSoMIdQ18

>>55429265
She sings well
It's just that her vocal color is superficial and not in a good way
When she sings lower notes she has that darkness coming from a lowered larynx (think of Patrick star) but on high notes it has that tight piercing nasal color.
It's very controlled, bland and sounds tiresome. Not the type of color you could enjoy by playing it on the background
I don't think she's the type who could smoothly switch to a falsetto and sing gently if she wants to. I might be wrong though

>>55464315
Anon, I really don't think this is what you will constitute as live singing. But yeah, Okayu is my favourite musician from Hololive nonetheless

>>55464495
https://youtu.be/_hIwZ4-a2mE?t=2983

>>55464549
Yeah see, this is a better example

>>55464469
Oh this comment is for nerissa not irys

The only thing close to tribal shitposting and numberfag posts is retards arguing over who’s a better singer.

I feel Okayu used to be on the top of the list before 2021 for Karaoke, but some members have seriously stepped up their game.
Members like Sora, AZKi, Suisei, Mio, Marine, Towa, Kanata, Chloe, Shion, Risu, Moona, Kobo, Gura, Mumei, IRyS and recently Fuwa-Moco and Nerissa have also been added to the mix.
It's hard to make a top 10 with so many singers

>>55464682
First singing stream anon? You can't be that new right? I'm sure you were there when gura first sung and was here when irys sung right?

>>55455799
but anon, most gaybirds are nijifags and phasecucks.

So I just went and listened to it. It was disappointing to say the least. Irys comfortably mogs her live singing, maybe her voice is better recorded bc it’s lower and more pleasant, but that’s just preference

>>55464809
Don't expose them like that....

>>55463538
>>55462759
>>55461140
Irysschizo status???

>>55433627
>nervous
Uhhhhh, she's good singing with audience, if you know what I mean... It's just jp songs isn't for her.
>time and confidence
Anon, they have like a fktons of months to prepare before debut.......

>>55463951
Lmao, this is shit
https://youtu.be/hCYQB9G9xlk
You were comparing her to Moona btw

>>55465306
I don't even know where to start, retard
Firstly these aren't even the songs from the same type of genere. Second, you were quick to point out IRyS lacking soul, I can do the same thing and point out on how awful her rhythm and technique are. Just watch the first 1 minute and see hoe mnay times she is going off beat.
Third, are you one of those idiots who thinks shouting=soul?

>>55465306
Yeah, thanks for proving to me she is just a worse Mumei.

>>55465306
God this is awful wtf
Never post this shit in a music thread ever again

>>55434357
show full pic coward

>>55465306
>All these seethe replies
Kek. Moona mogs all of EN including IRyS and Nerissa and it's so blatantly obvious

Keep doing Nerissa vs IRyS anons...

meanwhile I'll initiate NerRySa ship.
https://youtu.be/nFNK35y2E-c

>>55467452
based

>>55430032
>Nerissa can’t speak Japanase to save her life
EN singers have no need to speak Japanese. They're English singers, they're supposed to be singing in English. We have plenty of Japanese singers to sing in Japanese already.

>>55467597
They're still under Japanese company, Speaking Japanese is mandatory anon.....

>>55467452
sexo

>>55467635
Speaking Japanese only to managers and company people that dodn't know English. Forcing someone in the English branch to sing or stream in Japanese is idiotic. It's not what they're in the EN branch for. If you want them to sing in Japanese, put them in the JP branch. The EN branch is for English.

>>55467694
>company people
to be fair, the talents itself are also company people. And they're required to speak it since there are times that they'll be using it. either offstream or on-stream. As you've also noticed, they already knew the basic practices such as the basics of the language, culture and such.

Also who the fuck forced them to sing in Japanese? if it's not officially mentioned by them or the company itself. Don't believe it.. There are a lot of things to consider and I'm pretty sure there are plenty of reasons behind that.

>>55467635
>Speaking Japanese is mandatory
Except it isn't

>>55468008
wym?? how will they be able to collab with JP if they don't know japanese basic such as Jikoshoukai?

>>55468123
>how will they be able to collab with JP if they don't know japanese
Knowing Japanese isn't a prerequisite for collabing with JP.

>>55467694
> The EN branch is for English.
That's never been the case in the history of the branch

>>55468176
Then explain why ENs learning them and speaking in Japanese when they collab with JP.

IRyS is better at not taking bbc

>>55468277
Because they'd like to communicate with their JP senpais but they're under no obligation no.

>>55468176
Haven't you heard "language barrier" anon? It's not pre-requisite but it's required for them to do so in order for them to properly interact even though in slightest.

>>55468337
Then in order for them to communicate, they are required to atleast learn it.

>>55460611
>Early Gura was arguably even better than Irys
Only in terms of adding some emotion to her music, whereas IRyS sounds bland and empty. IRyS however has much more skill, just lacking that emotion that makes the music more engaging. However, Gura lost that touch now. It doesn’t feel like she tries hard to really do it well anymore. It’s like a Gura AI.

>>55468456
??????
https://youtu.be/UwdThvO2O54

Honest Non JP singer tier list

>SSS Tier
Risu>=IRyS
>S Tier
Gura>Moona>=Mumei>Neriss(for now)
>A Tier
Kobo(she is basically a worse Gura)>Bae>Fuwa-Moco(for now)>Kiara(Limiters off)
>B Tier
Mori>Reine>Kiara(limiters)>Ina>Kronii>Anya
>C Tier
Iofi>Zeta>Kaela>Ollie
>The actual singers
Ame>Fauna>Shiori

>>55463951
Here's more soul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxBLSlFKb10

>>55468502
The sad thing is I cannot actually tell if you are joking or not.

>>55468456
There were times that IRyS got emotional were she's literally about to cry while singing. Those are one of the rarest moment, I can't find it atm but I'll get into you when I do.

>>55468572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zy2GTYdFIU

When people need to really search hard to find something they think shows even an ounce of emotion from IRyS, you know it’s bad. Even though I said IRyS is likely better than Nerissa at singing, if Nerissa can fix her nerves and add some emotion to her music as well, she could very well come out on top. IRyS doesn’t have human emotion in her music, and it makes it boring.

>>55468711
Nigger you lost. Stfu with this cope. I searched up a random IRyS singing clip and proved you wrong

>>55468675
>>55461140

IRyS a Disney princess????

sorry bros but japslop doesn't fit Nerissa that well. her english songs are very powerful.

>>55468748
Which one? I checked out this one: >>55468502
Also if you have to search through a lot of stuff, you are proving my point in general.

>>55429265
I think Nerissa's better recorded, Her live karaoke doesn't flop (honest reaction). not a crat but I'd still prefer IRyS live.

>>55468802
Here
>>55463951
Just typed in IRyS Karaoke clips and these showed up. You can check the recommended songs as well. They are equally good

>>55429265
So the conclusion on this thread:

IRyS sings better in live Karaoke while Nerissa is better recorded?

>>55468854
Btw if you need more songs, here are some of the karoke recommendations that I got from /cope/ general
https://youtu.be/Kkx3-Feht9A
https://youtu.be/MqfSmvk9ke8
https://youtu.be/Aa4EAdsz0_E
https://youtu.be/b1PAfNga6oQ
https://youtu.be/mg3x6NCe3j0
https://youtu.be/9xtIGqw9HQU
https://youtu.be/hgJvJcZq054
And this was her almost a year and half ago
She has drastically improved since then
https://www.youtube.com/live/afSBWXV7JQw?feature=share
The last song

>>55468932
Yes

>>55469010
Where's her Sexy Back ang Santa Baby?

>>55469039
These are cope recommendations

>>55469010
The only problem I have perhaps is that her voice seems kinda generic. It still brings emotions, NGL but she is no Suisei or Gura with the natural talent. She is like AZKi.

>>55469010
Yeah she has improved. The last song was probably the best one. But again, I don't think she is ever gonna be famous with this voice. She is like a Disney princess and people today don't care about that

>>55469010
The only advantage she has is she is only good in Japanese songs

>>55468854
It’s clearly better there, which means I can see that you are capable of understanding what I mean. It’s also not as good in general, or even comes close to other singers. I’m glad you do seem to understand me enough though, because some people don’t even know wtf I mean by emotion. I’m also not sure how Gura lost much of hers. The best singing VTuber I seen that combines both good technique and emotion, is Roca of idol corp. She is better than both IRyS and Nerissa. But in regular gaming streams, she is extremely boring. Like wtf boring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7MsTw9s03o

Here's IRyS's Inochi no Namae if people are bored and want more songs to listen to.

>>55469371
>I’m also not sure how Gura lost much of hers.
It's not always about the feels, sometimes you have to objectively improve yourself. Gura just got tired fo singing. IRyS has more kino and emotions in her Japanese songs.
>>55469010
The last one especially

Here is Roca’s debut, the singer I’m saying is clearly better than IRyS and Nerissa, and watch how she switched her style (skip 10 mins in): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55N5rU7tWUM

>>55467452
now do that but with 50 Cent

Muh Iron Mouse is better than everyone

>>55469573
Yeah but if you are comparing them you need to use same kind of genre. IRyS rarely sings music in the rock genere(she does and she is good at it but it's not her strong point)
For rock I think Towa does a better job. So she is comparable to Towa

>>55469731
>you need to use same kind of genre
Did you even listen as she moved from opera to rock? Or did you skip the opera part? Check again, I’m saying she can do anything she wants. She has that ability. She is seriously better.

>>55469828
Dinr let me listen to it again

>>55469859
She does the opera part before the rock

>>55468572
>Doing all the villagers voices
Fuck everyone in this thread that said she's got no sovl

>>55469878
I mean yeah she is better than her but I need more examples.
However I don't think she is the best. Chima is better than her

>>55468932
This was just a stealth IRyS shill thread and it worked on me

>>55469196
I hate this natural talent cope because IRyS never had vocal training either so what do you call that?

>>55470198
Go through her music anon. There really is no singing VTuber who is better than her. I say this as someone who doesn’t want to watch Idol Corp, and who much prefers Hololive. I trust that you will come to the very same conclusion, and probably should have already if you’re being honest with yourself, or understand singing well enough to understand that what she did was very hard to do. The switching with the great range in her vocals, is astounding.

OP here
I'm just glad I made a thread that hit the bump limit :D

>>55470657
You absolute shitter. Now admit IRyS is better so I can go to bed...

>>55471022
No, I'll never forgive IRyS for debuting around Kiara's birthday