/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>55408844
I love Meica.

>>55408844
Sex with Shura while Eru watches

>>55408844
I hate Meica

>>55408844
I'm indifferent towards Meica.

>>55408844
Sex with Eru while Shura watches.

>>55408844
Masturbation while Shura and Eru watch.

Shura just "doxed" herself again, her EA account's name is GeeGeePog

Meica is cunnylover?
based if is true

>>55408844
What happened to the idol es rename of the threads?

>>55409928
>GeeGeePig
Too easy

>>55410129
It didn't happen, are you drunk Anon?

>>55410129
It only happened in your head.

>>55410181
She is more of the diary cow body type actually

Only groomers server, i mean only members server let's fucking goooooooo!!!!!!!!!!
https://twitter.com/NishaNixyeva/status/1688228079116615680

>>55410129
>What happened to the idol es rename of the threads?
Should have happened. Would have been a hilarious coup over the idolfags if /WACTOR/ just took their branch from them.

>>55410307
There says nothing about a discord server

>shura stream at 11pm

Would you make Shura oink or moo while fucking her?

>>55410307
go back to fb

>>55410307
It's okay for paypigs.
Poorfags don't have the right to complain.

Peruvian bros, we won!

>>55410454
Nisha has been talking a lot in her member streams about how much she wants a place where her fans can gather and interact with each other, but discord wasn't an option because it was too toxic
Then, last week nisha opened a members stream room exclusively for chatting and her members started talking there about how good would be to have a discord server and they promised that they would behave and that the toxic people was the non members, that's why i thought about a server with "anuncio de membresia muy esperado por algunos"

>>55410568
For me, it's Eru, fellow spaniardbro
Her voice is just pure bliss

Shura milk

>>55411445
And what did Nisha say about it, did she like the idea?

>>55411445
She should know that no one will oppose it publicly.
This will end bad again, mark my words, even if it takes months, all discord servers end badly.

>>55411445
oh so you are one of those gifted niggers fron the last stream huh
she opened that cause faggots keep pestering her with the fucking diskek and her statement on that is clear: never ever.
so she openet that chat to stop spaming her with that shit, the funny thing is dead af well if she don't post there ofcourse that attention whores will not use it.
also you fucking niggers keep boicoting her to have a stable community like every fucking vtuber have, why don't say a shit of other
>>55412561
it's only for members she don't post on that

Why fags are so desperate for a discord server?
Can't they interact on Twitter just fine?

>>55412709
she is kinda stupid cause she think that fags want to be friends with each others and that shit, so i'll say it clear to her: no one fucking cares about other chat nigger, stop deluing yourself with it, there will be no sane "community" you have to understad how fucking faggots vtuber fans are

All manolitas are really termo nuclear bombs, he

spanking nisha

Meica is basically a Shigure color swamped so have this

>>55413077
This, and if they form a group of friends between themselves be sure eventually they'll all migrate in group to another chuuba.

>>55413197
Nisha cured me of my yellow fever, now I only see manolitas

>>55413436
I don't know who's shigure and that doesn't look like Meica

>>55413469
based, what triforce you follow:
Yukine,Nisha,OG babu?

>>55413545
>Watching more than one girl

Don't fall for colonizers, you stupid spics.

>>55413719
Nisha can take all my gold

did anyone download the latest nisha membership stream?

it's probably more emotes for membership
ppl need to give up on the discord ffs

>>55413436
IA faggot do your thing, Meica it.

https://twitter.com/AisuVtuber/status/1688302552255758337

Never forget
"Mods profesionales"
KEK

>>55393711
Kawaii is just Wactor but slower

Does anyone still watch Merun?

>>55414286
>ccv:250ish
yes like you see.

NYXBROS, WE WON!!

>>55413719
Fuck off, the Imperial era was LATAM best times. (Before the stupid frog Bourbons)

>>55414430
Oh, pretty nice, I actually kinda like her, I was not trying to be mean. It's just weird that no anon talks about her anymore.

btw we never knew why Nisha or her mods kicked them out of the server one by one

>>55414554
If you like a girl you don't talk about her in this place. Only newfags do that, old anons already learned the lesson.

>>55414554
>it's just weird that no anon talks about her anymore.
geeee i wonder why her fans refuse to use this cancerous general...

>>55414614
That never happened, it was a lie pushed by supremacia lunar fags and they got called out personally by Nisha, that's the main reason she decided to never ever make a discord server again.

>>55414633
>>55414638
Aisu anon stays strong and no one shits on his oshi.

>>55414744
Because no one cares about Aisu.

>>55414744
threadwatchers don't know shit about her cause they don't watch streams and no one talk about her so thats why, don't you see how always parrot the same shit.

>>55414704
>That never happened
In the fan server more than one said that they were kicked out
And some of them were famous fans not from supremacia

>>55414962
Nisha personally said they were lying. I believe Nisha over a random faggot.

and here we go again with ancient trash.

>>55414614
Do you really think Nisha doesn't have mods on YouTube? Where do you think they communicate?
Well, they wanted that server for that, but the idea of not erase the server and only kick out one by one was too retard

>Making up shit again
KYS akipt

>>55415086
>Random faggot
Did you were in the fan server?

You fags never get tired of discussing the same shit?

>>55415301
is not him, is that other faggot that was on that server

Do you see why you don't talk about your oshi in this place?

Kys discordfags nobody wants you

You could save yourself all this trouble if you watched the superior Manolita

>>55415338
is the same shitposter retards that think they are on chispa or something, ignore and do your thingy.

>>55415517
Ofeb's property

>>55415517
thats not Riro.

>>55415517
Male collabing whore

>>55415628
Who's riro?

Nisha does have mods on youtube.
i remember in a collab stream they banned some people, and it couldn't be nisha because she was distracted with the game. in the last streams you can see that.

You should watch my daughter instead

Do you think that a discord server is a good idea?

>>55414704
I got kicked off the server and I'm not in any of those shitty groups and I've always been good to Nisha

>>55415781
No

i inserted my finger on my anus and i was banned

If you want to get Nisha wet you only have to say "boludo"

>>55415781
Only attentionwhores would say yes
You know, fags like Ofeb, Yuricom, etc

>>55415782
I was also kicked out of Discord for no reason. I never said anything because I didn't want Nisha to feel bad.

and if you had any doubts the tard just exposed himself, wew.

Who is/are the fag(s) begging for a discord server?

The only thing I learned from /Wactor/ is that Chinese girls are a blessing to this world

Reminder that literally everyone is here, from family members to powerful lawyers, so be nice.

>>55416052
carete.

a Discord server is the worst idea a Vtuber can come up with.

>>55416111
>Shura's mom knows about how much I want to breed her daughter

https://twitter.com/NishaNixyeva/status/1688310565284851712
I kneel

KEKKKKKKKKKKK
https://twitter.com/NishaNixyeva/status/1688310565284851712

>>55416212
get out of /here/, you cute little idiot.

>Imagine the filthy noises of her fat butt as her cheeks release her pent up gas.
>Conceptualise feeling the weight of Sezia's shitter on your head as she releases pungent blasts of her rank yet feminine odor right into your nostrils

>>55415338
Create IdolES first, then wait a few hours and create wactor.
Those two days when it happened were mostly shitpost free.

https://twitter.com/NishaNixyeva/status/1688310883603169280
AI FAG START WARMING UP THOSE GENERATORS

>>55416212
I love you Nishaaaa

SEETHE DISCORDFAGS

>>55416297
Do it yourself lazy spic cunt

nisha, remove a hand if you love anons

>>55416333
La Mas Bonita also La Mas Basadita

Nisha...

There won't be a discord, stop insisting. Now be good Nishadow and continue behaving well

NISHA LOVE NISHA LOVE NISHA LOVE

>>55416403
La más bonita is Mahiru right now

Are you still coming here Nisha? didn't you learn anything?

>>55416505
Mahiru face with Ageha body for the ultimate coom

Ok Nisha, you won this time
but one day we will know who are your youtube's mods

>>55416505
Femboys doesn't count

>>55416472
Yes my manolita princess

>>55416212
Now I love her eve more

>>55416271
IA faggot need a Shura version of that...

Why are we so powerful...

>>55416957
anons have the power of autism.

>>55415782
Are you calling Nisha a liar?

https://twitter.com/NishaNixyeva/status/1688314454457405440

>>55416297
>She's asking the AI fag personally.

After what recently happened
i'm going to masturbate thinking about Nisha
good afternoon

>>55417315
>>55417251

>>55416612
see
>>55417163

>>55417251
she is right to, retards kept spamming AI shit on the art tag even some fags tried to pass it like it was his his drawing

I still prefer Yukine btw

>>55417163
I'm just saying what happened to me, and nisha already admitted once that she's doing it to not worry her fans, someone who lies to you about something always lies to you about other things.

>>55417456

>>55415573

>imagine being jealous of fucking Ofeb
L M A O

I prefer Luna.

I prefer Yukine and Nisha having sex with me

I prefer Meica, to be honest

I prefer anon >\\\<

https://twitter.com/HanaYomeguri/status/1688203780993794048
say something nice to her

>>55418058
Anya?

>>55418067
Fuck off putiglota

>https://twitter.com/HimeragiAgeha/status/1688157245908156416

Nisha, if you're reading this, I love you a lot. And I will follow you forever

>>55418196
That fucking alien face... Why are japs so weird with their tastes?

https://twitter.com/KobiUruru/status/1688177242969620480
What would you do with 5 Ururus?

>>55418457
i forget that this girl existed...
also any news on Himea? fags where saying that she is out too

>>55418536
>His reliable source of information is 4chan

>>55418662
I trust everything that's written here after anons were right about Meica being in Argentina weeks before she said it

>>55418854
anon if you suck my dick you will have eternal youth, so contact me here: youareadumbfaggot@gmail.com

How hypocritical Carete and Nix are. They're the ones who ask for discord the most, and now they're acting like they agree with Nisha

>55419223
>Carete
>the same faggot that wanted to make a 4chin diskek
>the same nigger banned from the wactor diskek for posting doxshit
even /tsunX/ hate his guts, what an unlikeable anoying faggot, bring Yoffina back at least his bussy was top tier.

>>55419485
Why are you comparing cute Yof with a retard like Carete?

>>55419627
i don't know man im starved of fembois bussies not that miutomoop and she are gone...

Who is more hypocritical Ofeb or Carete?

https://twitter.com/nemuno_nemu/status/1688321905403768832

>>55420153
the mexican by far.

>>55419807
Anon...

>>55420162
lol

>>55418536
Don't ask about a girl you don't give a shit about you threadwatcher scum.

>>55421144
that's akira pretending to be her.

>>55421756
that would not be the first time he did something like that

>>55420162
wew

>>55418058
I prefer you too

>>55421144
Cool, farewell stream.

>>55420673
>>55422580
Why this reaction? Do you hate gfe?

> she's gone

>>55423157
That seems like a "jeje te quiero mucho ahora dame tu dinero"

>>55423472
Hi, welcome to the world of vtubers

>>55423472
First time here?

>>55423472
We buy affection with money here, where do you think you are?

>>55423573
>>55423738
>>55423910
Ok faggots
That seems like a TOO OBVIOUS "jeje te quiero mucho ahora dame tu dinero"

>>55420162
You will never be Anya.

God, I miss her so fucking much.

I miss Lia

Where are my (fake) menhera chuubas?

I miss Miu

>>55421144
why do you even respond to this fag?

>>55424714
>
>>55420162

>>55421855
stop spreading lies

Friendly reminder to not talk about your oshi in this place.

https://www.youtube.com/live/htzNN6kU3as?feature=share
Charo cute

>>55425388
>>55425577
the duality of the anon

>>55425577

Charo is eating my dick on stream

https://youtube.com/shorts/eRg_ZPHGh8E?feature=share
Cute

>>55425765
The only black thing she'll stop is my dick with her cervix.

>>55426061
Hello, argie anon.

Charo really likes bananas

>>55426635
Yeah, mine.
>>55426061

>>55424487
She is waiting you in your bed Akira

>>55426738
Not anymore.

>>55409975
I don't think she's actually said it on stream ever, but she's always liked cunny art on twitter

Nisha's karaokes are so good when she actually knows the songs.

>>55426810
Doing it on the living room?
You dirty son of bitch!

>>55428194
Based foreskin thief

>>55428194
thats what the jew is saying now, you can bet he will makle a male branch or a new corpo feautring malechuubas and planing collabs on the future, never trust a jew.

>>55428194
Based

>>55417163
Why she doesn’t use ask.fm? She is an expert she definitely should use it lol

>>55429478
>the funniest anon in 4chan

>Nishaschizo is still mad about her discord server

>>55429714
I know, that why I’m part of the best general on vt.

>Nisha schizo getting BTFO part 854648

Hana making bank on her birthday stream

>>55430661
condom money

Friendly reminder nisha was inside holo sorry I mean holo was inside nisha even before yago found it.

She is the best!!

>>55430886
Nisha was holo first subscriber hahaha

>>55430661
Well deserved!

HANA LOVE

>>55430886
I hope nisha joins the jew company to see how everyone reacts to the ask accident

I see his range ban got lifted, wonder how much time he'll last now.

fuck off, annoying retards.

Meica Peruvian won’t hurt anons but meica tagalog is cooler than you.

Nisha stream: Zzzzzz

Nisha trying to be inside holoArg I mean holoEs: 0.0

Nisha schizo is really mad today KEK
Cope and seethe nigger

Meica streaming: zoy based xd ass pee xd

Meica off stream: why my family hate me. No one love me :(

I want to find one joke about lia it was about humans plants and photosynthesis.

>>55432972
She has episodes of schizophrenia, please understand her.

>>55428194
Aviel is my Lord and Saviour.

>>55428194
I don't know man, all their chubas rely on being "the lewd one" which is why I don't like most spic chubas

>>55437371
Are you the designated /jidf/ threadwatcher?

>>55437371
you have Riro, Pochi and somewhat Rin
the rest yeah coombait shit and the schizo one Kattarina

>>55437371
>>55438072
Fuyo fullfils my NTR needs.

>>55438072
Watched some of them but honestly they aren't that interesting, Nisha is just too good compared to Riro and the rest is just meh, at least Himea is extremely weird, Mahiru is a good gamer, Anya could have been spic Shondo and Shura is just comfy
I really don't see nothing noteworthy about them, I must say sometimes it feels like they are the "anti-phase" like they are only shilled because they're competition to Phase

>>55439202
Nisha too good. Anon your standards.

>>55439651
Keep seething

>>55439651
I know you are still here Nishaschizo

>>55439651
Still mad Nisha schizo?

>>55439813
Sorry don’t bother to watch low quality shit like nisha la más aburridita

>>55439202
Fuyo and Rin are good.
yuko is just talentless but keep her numbers coom/gfe baiting.

and yes our girls are more interesting than most of the idolgirls, yes all of them.
Himea/Meica/Shura/Nisha/Eru/Yukine/Merun/Babu, etc...

>>55439813
>>55440014
>>55440037
Kek the whole band jump out coping like the lil bitches they are. Why are you mad someone think she is boring, maybe because you know in reality she is plain boring that it period!

>Kek the whole band jump out coping like the lil bitches they are. Why are you mad someone think she is boring, maybe because you know in reality she is plain boring that it period!

>>55440669
Nisha is superior, anon, get over it. And she will be even more so with the 2D

>tards keep giving attention for free
wew, you never learn

>>55441677
The numbers of online viewing or subscriptions think the same.

>>55439202
>Nisha is just too good compared to Riro
Oh hai Nisha

>>55441952
nisha's literally streaming faggot

>>55442078
Can you see the tab she has open?
Yeah, that's what I thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNknS-p4Qew

also Merun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO4H8dH1tTw

drop your ARS akasupas to Hana:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t6gRJf0NLA

>>55413197
Nateyo wanna be

Why doesn't Nisha want to participate in collabs?
for a long time she wanted to do Mario Kart with Meica and the other but she did't participate this time
why?

>>55416066
Jackie pal !!

>>55443486
no hablo takataka sorry

>>55444443
then fuck off from this general facetard.

>>55444284
she just said the reason for that now but it's content from membership streams sorry

Does anyone know why nisha deleted his membership stream?

>>55443486
Putistream without Kaichou friend
Omg

>>55443486
>500 USD

https://twitter.com/EruNabura/status/1688384986322272257
She's pregnant

>>55445839
fags are not ashamed to have their name on a ARS akas next to that gringo chad?
why all these faggots shamefully use VPN to donate monomoply "money"?

>>55443486
who?

>all songs are pre-recorded

>>55443486
>888 cvv
>bd stream
has she decline so much?

>>55446691
she stoped pandering to retards, and dropped the meme review shit streams, so it's natural if you have artifitial inflated numbers by normalfaggots that your numbers will drop hard

>Cristhian Crafts
>mod
ugh

>>55446953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihGTbDazpc8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2RYDZR2KKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHXDszos72w
>and dropped the meme review shit streams
sure anon?

>>55446953
she never had to went that way but well i'm surprised she managed to retain all those fags.

>>55447354
you know she it was her main content, memes and reations, she toned down it frecuency hard.

>subhumans
>numberputos
>theadwatchers
i still don't know why insist on making these threads.

>Meica

>>55447796
For the good anons.

>meica enter
>hana crying
meica really makes her mark with every girl she meets

>>55448553
OP-kun, the good anons don't post cause you know... just look at the threads.

>>55448369
1.1k cvv kek

>>55447796
The anons live in perpetual denial, clinging to their memories and not getting over the death of what they loved the most

>>55448721
both had similar problems with shit companies and other stuff.

>>55448996
she sure move people

>>55447796
Don't make them and you'll see no one misses them.

the test stream and the last space were just a big ball of nothing

>>55452071
shura should go have those moles checked by a doctor.

>>55452071
Made to be spanked

>>55448297
WHORES,
Graduation when?

>>55452800
Seethe Akira

>>55452800
Hi Akira

on other news
>Kiki has been caught making the Nerissa dox posts
kek it's true that shitty 2views use this board to shit at your oshis out of pure jealousy and their pathetism and lack of talent.

>>55454075
I find that kinda cute. Women fighting for male attention is funny.

if I had to choose between whores, I think this pair >>55452071 is better than this pair >>55448297

>>55454166
>cute
you know who she is?
it's a shitty Pippa wannabe, with a cancerous fanbase almost on the level of pippatards

>>55454503
Pippatards are doxxing people that blocked her in Twitter

>>55454800
it's a well know fact that those niggers are the worst kind of faggots of the board

>>55452666
Only for (You) kek, I'm enjoying my new life

>https://www.twitch.tv/shurahiwa

>>55455734
>shes talking about her past life

>>55455817
seems that one faggot form her *** times is bothering her, why fucking schizos can't leave our girls on alone.

>Ofeb being an attention whore again

>>55456271
the tard can't stfu about his life.

>ya pero yo te pregunte por tu oshi, no que se la chupes al marica de Owozu, no te pregunte por tu vida
HOLY BASED

>bitches and whores

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rmXHFToKPc

shura is blackpilled as fuck

>These doxxniggers trying to be celebrities
kys

>>55458026
the funny thing is the tard is using Sere trash as a proof, KEK that girl is other streamer, also well know too.

>Shura talking unity retards

>shura talking about dracucklones
KEK

AYY LMAO DRACULONES

>nishadowns and dracucklones
Oh no no no bros???

>shitting on unicorn anons

>you can bet that is Yuritroon gang sending those maros

Now I am ashamed to be a Draculon and share the same fandom with you crybabies haha, they are almost worse than the royal guard

>trannies should burn in hell
wtf, shura!!!

>>55458661
it makes sense, Yuricunt was trrying to pull a Mai on her and failed

>Si yo tuviera fans que creyeran que onions estupida

THIS IS FOR YOU GUARDIAFAGS
FUCK OFF NIGGERS

Shura hates anons now...

>Yo se defenderme sola
She's talking about her own white knights.

If people threat you like a stupid bitch, is because you are, Shura.
Not just that, just look at the hypocrisy of using twitch after shitting on that platform.
Once a twitch thot, always a twitch thot I guess.

>>55458827
even after the fangame...

>>55458932
stfu clown, and stop acting like a retarded FBkid.

>Siento que lo parasocial esta muy endemoniado.
>Siento que son más normales de lo que creemos.

>>55458932
OH NO NO NO SHURAKEKS
https://files.catbox.moe/d5kolx.mp3

>>55458975
Ungrateful fat cunt.

>Shura likes parasocial relationships
It's over discordbros...

another meica
DROPPED fuck off
it's always the normies that have to ruin everything, if you don't like the jp style, fuck off to watch whores streamers

Some anons are saying she's supporting parasocials
Others say she's a twitch thot
Who do I believe?

>>55459109
I watch Meica and Shura

(You) there grab it retard, you can go to bed now clown.

You see why you shouldn't talk about your oshi?

>>55459159
You have shit taste. Congratulations.

>>55454075
who? where?

>>55459149
wacth the fucking stream threadwacther

>>55459257
I have better stuff to listen to.

>>55459228
I don't watch Nisha tho.

>>55459149
She just said that parasocial relationships are very common, that's it.

So Shura supports parasocials.
Another win for anons.

>>55459360
anonchama...

>>55459257
>twitch
no.

>>55459403
I speak only the truth.

>>55459257
>anon
>watching streams
KEK

>Trannycom and the caca real trying to derail the thread again
No one likes you dracucklones not even Himea

quién haga otro hilo de /WACTOR/ es puto
y si va a hacer uno de idol que se llame /mipiñga/ Meeting and Information Place for Idol en Ñ General Awesome

>the retard exposed himself again.
hint: chispa, supremacia, lookers, Horos clips.

>>55459447
>Imagine watching streams
Haven't clicked a single vtuber stream in months

>>55459521
yeah, yeah, go away.

I will laugh my ass of when the shitter gets paid a visit from Papanya's hitmen.

>>55459537
You forgot the worst of them, the royaltrannies

>>55459701
dunno if he is on that server too, will ask Akipt later.

Reccomend me some bitchy spanish speaking chuubas, I don't really like when girls are so nice. (no meica)

>>55459773
Kosi, soon to debut.

>>55459773
Any Chilean chuuba.

Reminder that using Spanish in this place is sign of mental retardation.

>>55459773
any argersimian chuuba

>Image spamming when the thread is already dead
That's retardation

>>55460160
Seethe

>>55460105
you will never be gringo

>>55460151
But Himea is nice.

RABU <3

>>55460243
she's from crimaca threadwatcher-kun

>>55460233
Go back to chispa, spicboard nigger.

>>55460366
who is this cutie?

GN anons
to mimir

LAST MESSAGE
YOF IMPREGNATION

>>55460474
I have a legit question for you.
Why do you come to this place if you never talk about Meica? It literally doesn't make sense.

unts unts unts

remember to subscribe to Aisu

>>55460585
GN Nisha

Nisha ultra big love

>>55460574
Seeing crybabies like you moan when I insult your oshi is fun

Why is Natsuri crying?

>>55460692
Then do you mind if I do the same with yours?
I'll watch her streams and all just for that.

there's still half an hour of stream left and this is going to die. . . .

>>55460759
No one cares.

>>55460759
Shits boring. Nothing worth mentioning anyway.

>>55460720
who?

>>55460692
Why are brotecitos like this?

>>55460720
pussy cancer. i hope she is okay.

Did Meica ever raid Shura during el extensible?

>>55460574
anon here, because it's funny to see anons spit shit and watch the thread decay until it dies as I saw it being born and I want to see its end so just post at the end or beginning of threads and see how things are going.

>>55461096
Low IQ meicatard.

I really want no I have massive need to impregnate Yof and then abandon her

>>55461251
whatever your heart tells you anon, now I'm going to mimir see you chuu...

What if I start talking about Meica and advertise the thread on twitter so a bunch of newfag brotecitos come here and give new life to the thread?

>>55461491
My heart tells me that you belong in a facebook group, not here. So fuck off burraco, and never come back.

>>55460720
she hates japan because they say that girls who do not have children are worthless and they discriminate against her because of that

fuck off y'all

>>55461605
And where is the lie?

>>55461540
you don't have the balls

>>55461738
I'm getting fed up with meicaniggers, and it makes me want to do the worst thing possible to her. Bring the curse of anons upon her once again.

>>55461680
there are no lies , that's because she cries retard anon... that's why japan is the way it is kek

just do it or stfu

>the retard replying to himself
go to bed nigger.

I'm getting kinda sad remembering her making her own epic apex compilations and how proud she was of them... FUERZA LEONA

I can make her mother and problem solved

>>55462085
>he doesn't know

>>55462085
Good luck with the adoption.

Anya loev

>>55462636
Hi Ren

>>55461574
Still mad Meica schizo? KEK