/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

7 Hours in Elden Ring? I might pick her up. Thanks.

>>55413391
Vantacrow bringer's debut schedule was so bad he killed his career before he could even take off.

>>55413391
>Actually streams
>All good games
Thanks for the recommendation, anon.

>>55413391
Nerissa's was worse she fell for all the garbage tier streamer bait games

>>55413391
>deadbeats desperately grasping straws
Pathetic

>>55413391
she should kill herself already

>>55413662
What did he stream?

For me it's Aki, it's not her fault per se but she got hospitalized right after debut

>>55413391
Seems perfect for me except the FF14 shit

>>55413391
>they were all kino streams
>OP shitting on them
you'd know this if you watched them
buy an ad

Unironically, probably the best debut week ever.

Mumei had the worst.

>They should stream games I like to play, not the ones they like!
Nigga how retarded do you have to be for this to be your opinion?

>>55414158
>4(four) streams in your debut week
Council really were lazy fucks from day 1 huh?

Truck Sim and Elden Ring were great choices. Skipped FF and Phasmo. Zelda was whatever, will probably be more fun when she gets off tutorial island

>>55414219
stop talking like a nigger, I mean, I agree with what you said but stop being a nigger

>>55413391
When I have
>1,500 hours in FF14
>250 hours in Elden Ring
>100 hours in TotK

Nope. She seems perfect to me.

>>55413527
She beat Tree Sentinel with just the shitty pebble spell and then played up to Renalla. She's a bigger souls autist than Noel

Why is she playing old games all of her peers have already played to death?

>>55414158
hopium.tga

>>55414436
Because those are the games she wanted to play? Are you stupid? Why did Gordo play holocure omg everyone already play that game?!?!? idiot

>>55413884
REMNANT: FTA
Themeysia (never finished)
Honkai Starrail
Chilla garbage
Only up

>>55414219
This but replace "I like to play" with "I like to watch"
>Elden Ring
>FF14
>ToTK
All games that are fun to play but shit to watch.

>>55413391
7hrs of elden ring? based

>>55413391
Yeah, all of council. you can stay away from our gaming pebble though, just means one less faggot in the community.

>>55413835
Deadbeats had nothing to do with this, damn Anti.

>>55413391
Imagine getting filtered by a rock
You must be from a 3rd world country

>>55414322
>Muh council
She got a ton of shit for it back then just like Shiori got a ton of shit for her recent schedule
Reminder that /vt/ absolutely loved Kronii right after debut

>>55414409
Based.
Except FF14. Why do you like that garbage?

>>55414158
Reminder that this was Mori's fault giving to them the "take it easy" talk

I thought her ToTK stream was really cute. She mentioned she specifically stayed away from the game so she could play it with her pebbles and was very excited about finally playing it.

>>55413391
Almost like most people don't need to watch another nth streamer/vtuber play the same old games.

>>55413391
>Kino zatsu with truck wrecks in the background
>Kino Zelda with interesting solutions already in the tutorial
>Kino phasmo with enough moan screaming to make my dick perma erect
>Kino Savage raiding on end game content
>Extremely kino 7 hour ER stream with someone who is actually good at the souls series

This has been the best debut week of any holo, OP's just a faggot who didn't watch streams

>>55414594
Wasn't StarRail hype at least during launch? He dubuted during that time right? Also Only up was tourist trap

>>55415061
Mori is such a great friend

>>55413391
Watch something other than hololive
>20 part pikmin playthrough on debut that is still going on today

>>55413391
Phasmo debuff is fucking insane

>>55414874
>Reminder that /vt/ absolutely loved Kronii right after debut
Reminder that /vt/ absolutely loves and hates everyone right after debut

>>55415372
unironically youtube's faults

>>55414158
That construction simulator stream literally turned me off from watching her for months.

>>55415264
>omg guys so kino
>streams autism ring for 7 hours with an unanimated png
Some of you really do make excuses that nobody would rationally make for things nobody would expect even from the most garbage tier 1view indie. Like what you like but there is a little bit of insanity in your thinking, anon.

>>55415372
OP cut a 1 off at the start of the view count

>>55415491
What does Youtube do?

>>55413391
Her one Elden Ring stream has more hours of content than Shiori's entire debut week.
Remind me who is dead again?

Chumcucks SEETHING

>>55415619
If you cant see Kino even in the most scuffed of streams then I dont know what to tell you
Go watch some twitch whore that spent $3750 on a model while getting 5 viewers Hololive clearly isnt for you

>>55415686
I was thinking that YT culled the view, but it was this >>55415682

>>55415619
>Omg she became a PNGtuber so she could actually play a game without lag spikes? Sis, that's a 2view tactic, you deserve far better.

>>55413391
found the tempiss enjoyer

>>55413861
Agreed

>>55414158
My wife Mumei.

>>55415061
>>55415327
Can people really change after two years? I want to believe they can.

>>55415061
>>55415327
mori is already targeting her to destroy, she was in her chat for so long.
how many weeks or months will it take?
kek she killed kronii in a few months, kobo in like a few weeks.
Bijou ? might be her fastest kill yet

>>55415956
As long as Kaela outgrooms Mori it will be alright

>>55415407
Not true, Ame was trashed really hard during MYTH debuts, and even kiara got some flack, though that lasted longer

>>55415731
>>55415783
You say that like more than a thousand people world-wide think screwing up and making rookie mistakes is cute. Even then you're making up excuses and infantalizing the screw ups that nobody would accept otherwise, not even you. At least they didn't just cancel their stream. Low quality hires this gen.

Hololive is a small indie VTuber company, please understand.

>>55415956
poor bijou

>>55415320
by the time vanta played starrail everyone played it already. any other game in the list i posted would be a better watch
chilla's art (night security) was also peak tourist bait

>>55416081
Counterpoint: This happened before she even got monetization, so it can be ignored. Since Bijou isn't currently profiting off streams, it doesn't matter if she has tech issues.

>>55413391
Looks pretty good to me.
This you?

>>55416148
having remnant and thymesia gave me hope for the guy
but in the end he will just be another one horror kusoge streamer
with some relevant titles like RE and Outlast in the mix

>>55416028
nah kobo died so fast it's so funny, was the fastest moving subscribed from ID no less could have shot to Gura status 3+ mil subs easy
then she just committed seppuku, homo collabs and all, thanks to great advice
LMFAO
mori wanna defend her 2nd spot so badly,
too bad JP pekora and marine don't listen to no reaper of death

>>55413391
the elden ring stream was based as fuck

>>55415956
Pretty sure Mori already got destroyed in chat during that stream.
>I didn't know Calli-senpai liked bears so much
Biboo knew exactly what she was doing.

>>55414874
Didn't she redeem herself when she did her Supa reading and dry started singing Sillouette which was the first time we heard her sing which Kickstarted the Moom Luthor meme?

https://youtu.be/a0P2fTK3UAo

After that she started improved by A LOT.

>>55416314
he's a good entertainer but not enough that I can watch him play garbage week after week, you need to be a cute girl for that

>>55415956
Mori can't break the rock cunny. If she even tries it the rock cunny will break her.

>>55414839
Yes, I hate Mori. And?

>>55413391
Why is this a thread?
Why aren't you waiting out a day ban?

>>55413391
Seems like a good schedule.
Is she actually good at games?

>all this Mori-seethe
Cope. She likes the rock and the rock likes her.

>>55413391
I was the least impressed with Bijou's debut, didnt give a shit about her all week, but I started liking her because of that 7 hour Elden Ring stream. I've watched 8 different Holomems play ER and she was easily the best and most entertaining

>>55416172
Counter-counterpoint: She's already debuted as a supposedly professional in her field and selling merch.

It's not just her either but at some point people have just started expecting fuck ups and making excuses because of brand loyalty. Now I'm the asshole because I actually expect them to get better and improve the quality.

>>55413391
Would you say, shes rustling your pebbles?

>>55415619
>goo goo ga ga why picture not move
hope you die of SIDS, baby

>>55413391
Yes, Nerissa's schedule

>>55416489
Mumei is probably the one holo who's Imagine got improved by a lot over time because she's genuinely just a nice girl with some problems and who gets along with everyone. Now she passed Kronii in subs.

>>55415336
>20 part pikmin playthrough on debut that is still going on today
Yup, I'm thinking based

>>55415569
That stream was hilarious though

>>55413391
Mumei, and I’m saying this as a Hooman who enjoyed Construction Simulator.
>>55414322
Mumei had the shitty luck of fall semester starting right after debut, and preparing that fucked her over.
>>55416489
Mumei was under fire for reasons that had nothing to do with her content to begin with, and things didn’t start getting better until after her first guerrilla week.

>>55416751
Cover is busy with trying to develop blended AR-VR entertainment experiences in interactive virtual worlds. Yet apparently they can't do a standard two pc streaming setups for their talents.

>>55417076
It was clearly an internet service provider issue she's been having problems with them all year

I thought elden ring was a terrible choice at first but I was surprised how fucking kino it was

>>55416860
Shame about Kronii
It could have been so good

>>55416738
Counter-counter-counterpoint: She is roleplaying an actual child so her having issues with computers is on-brand.

>>55413391
>promise long streams of action/adventure games
>deliver long streams of action/adventure games
Bijou is great. I hope she can keep it up because EN seriously needed a real gamer with long hours.

>>55416738
NTA but this is the opposite of brand loyalty. Because it is, in fact, the company's fault this time. The problem is Cover's outdated Live2D app is a godawful resource hog. Even while she was trying to fix the problems, she said the game was running fine on her end. Lowering game settings didn't help. Lowering bitrate didn't help. There just weren't enough resources left for OBS to do its job because Live2D was gobbling it up. Meanwhile once she switched to PNG she was able to crank the graphic settings and bitrate up and keep a stable 60 fps no problem.
Saying it isn't her fault is defending *her*, not the brand. Bijou didn't have problems streaming the game during her PL. Meanwhile multiple talents have had problems with Live2D running at the same time as Elden Ring. Which you would know if you watched streams back when the game was making rounds.

>>55413391
All of these were kino, what are you on about?

>>55414158
Construction simulator made me not want to watch mumei again...

>>55413391
Nijisister...

>>55414874
>falls behind kronii 30k subs
Pretty funny how things are now

>>55413391
i was turned off by the notion of having "just another cunnytuber" but after seeing she's straight up just a GAMER, i'm hooked.

>>55416494
Isn't that all of NijiEN though (I don't watch HoloEN so I don't know what their schedules look like). I always see
>Chilla shit
>monthly FotM (this time it's Only Up)
>gacha shit
>one good game
>collab phasmo/zomboid or some other 'horror' multiplayer game

>>55413391
She played buff game prior monetization, wish her the best

>>55413391
Some people wanted a Holo who could/would actually play games, what the fuck do you expect.

>>55414158
I want an oshi who actually works at figuring out DST....

>>55418350
she's a girl loli gamer, a real gamer at that.
her games she likes are huge and a large varity

>>55416954
>Mumei was under fire for reasons that had nothing to do with her content to begin with
I remember when she started scrubbing those images from her timeline hours after debut, which only made things worse because it confirmed the speculation.

At least it's not fucking Minecraft

>>55418901
t. Nijinigger

I think it's absolutely horrible because it's not well rounded.
People like games like people like fast food it's cheap and quick and it's easy to get but if all you had for a week was fast food you'd get sick easily unless you really REALLY loved that shit.
A full game stream is like a full fast food week, either it's a very bad move that will make people sick and filter many or it's a good move that establishes her as THE fast food girl in her gen and filters anyone not interested in that content.
I don't know her PL or her content so I don't know if this is just what all her streams will be or if she just fucked up and made a whole week of this only.
But first impressions matter a lot and the first week has been very competitive for Advent, a lot of overlap, people are tasting all of the girls to try them out and if all Bijou offered were games that's not going to give people any variety of her to try out.

>>55414158
Journey stream was good

She's cute.

>>55413391
I was filled with dread for the future when she released this. Lazulight's first weeks were kinda mid.

>>55419532
It's so hard for me to imagine a pre-MGR Pomu at this point.

Nijis are desperate in looking after the weakest link in Advent, huh.

>>55419463
I agree it wasn’t bad, it just got overshadowed by Construction Simulator and Birb Drawing. You had people in /#/ mistakenly listing Construction Simulator as her first stream to compare with Advent, for example.

>>55413391
Thank you for advertising my oshi! She is a lot of fun and streams a lot! Give her a try!

>>55418209
We could've had the block game in there but a certain someone killed the meta for it for NijiEN

>>55419532
It is always the mid/underrated one on debut who last longer in relevancy compared to the , more appealing one on debut. The others become lazy bitches or get a big ego filtering the big following they initially had.

>>55413391
>Truck Stimulator
Basically just a zatsu stream, with a lot of car crashes and cute noises
>TOT k
Her weakest stream for me, I can't really remember anything except for building bridges over and over
>Phasmophobia
A short solo stream before her collab, we got some cute scared noises out of her and she did better than some 4-person EN collabs did
>FFXIV
Stream full of playing with viewers. A lot of singing and humming, and she was cute trying to show off how she learned the raid before the stream started (despite being out of position often, she did learn and fix her mistakes after each wipe)
>Onion Rings
Fangirling over one of her favorite games for 7 hours, proving she's not a complete shitter at games like certain other ENs, solidifying her status as an endurance streamer with a somewhat short stream (and don't forget, she had an hour of tech issues that was privatized so this is technically 8 hours long)

Other than TOTK her entire week was rock solid.
Adding in collabs
>Untitled Goose Game
Shitty game, it at least can be used as a zatsudan... except for Nerissa actually tryharding this shit and refusing to just do a zatsu with dumb honking in the background
>L4D2
10/10. Constantly trolling her genmates, flat out ignoring the fight against the first witch, and then actually going tryhard once she realized that they weren't going to win with her griefing in the mall.

>>55420836
Phas was so good before the devs became autistic

>>55413391
Not even close to the worst I've seen

>>55420836
This. It was a really good week imo, zelda being her weakest stream.

>>55414431
>magic
>She's a bigger souls autist than Noel
Nah, she's a child.
And that's a good thing.

>>55422935
The new Zelda is fun to play in small doses but it's like watching paint dry

>>55414158
Man I had forgotten how garbage Mumei's debut week was.

Also IIRC none of them had a cover/original song release where as Advent has 4 plus the group song. Council debut was incredibly underbaked.

>>55417258
Connection has no impact. That's simply not how computers and network traffic works. She's sending the same amount of information either way. But it's good to know at what level of intelligence and understanding the fanbase is.

>>55417658
>it's not brand loyalty it's the brand's fault so we will be loyal
You're confused. Yet you don't explain how this would not be solved with a standard 2 PC streaming setup.

>>55413391
I watched an indie that managed to gather interest predebut kill her entire audience by playing the FFVII remake for 3 weeks straight.

>>55423372
Hololive's had lots of time since Council to steal good ideas from other companies.

>>55414431
doing a magic playthrough isn't being a souls autist, let's see her do an SL1 run

>>55423589
The game is just so intense that it psychically affects the other PC with its aura and then you can't stream and something OBS and you know inefficient Live2D so you need a super computer just to send pixels.

>>55415336
>advertising a niggersanji in my thread
Kill yourself, tourist faggot.

>>55420317
LE POG XD

>>55423589
these women can barely understand how to use OBS correctly, they can't handle having more than 1 PC

>>55423659
Playing games is low tier content either way. You either play a game that's a slog, or you play lots of games that aren't connected and give people nothing to follow along with. Only games with emergent gameplay, fan interaction, or user generated content are good games for vtubers. The rest are going to bore most of the audience given a few weeks.

>>55423937
They were hired in part on their ability to use OBS and streaming technologies correctly. In fact, one of them was specifically hired for their OBS skills.

>>55423702
She is doing a rock/crystal playthrough not just a magic playthrough

>>55423372
I’ve been of the opinion that there were internal changes with how Cover handled new gens between Council and HoloX. There’s always been this one schizo complaining about the latter getting special treatment, but it’s more emblematic of Council being the last of the old style and HoloX being the first of the new style.
Also, Kronii and Mumei both had previews for their orisongs on debut, it’s just that they had only just started working on it, so what they showed was all they had. Cover clearly gave later gens more time to work on their music.

>>55423589
Loyalty to the streamer is not loyalty to the brand. Does that simplify things enough for you? If X streamer could do Y before Hololive, but cannot do Y after Hololive, then it is the brand's fault and not the streamer's. I never said a 2 PC setup wouldn't work, only that it's Cover's fault such a thing would be necessary to begin with.

Nerissa's debut week schedule is quite possibly the most generic schedule someone could make. The only thing that stood out was the L4D2 collab

>>55413391
>Has there ever been a worse debut week schedule?
yes? everyone in myth and council had way worse schedules. let's look at gura's first week for example:

>debut
>man eater
>tabs
>plug & play
>kokoro clover
>monetization

the next week was even worse. they all played horrible fucking games for months after their debuts.

>>55413391
The truck stream and Elden Ring streams were kino, and if you count L4D2 half of her streams were good.

>>55424745
>I'm loyal to someone I don't know.
You definitely are confused. They are a brand, you buy into them because they are new faces of the brand. You are not loyal to them at all, you didn't support their past content creation, you support the product that the brand has put out without question.

>>55423856
That's a Prism, retard.

>>55414158
>council meetings
What were they thinking with those?

>>55424745
>>55417658
It's possible that you will actually develop loyalty to them as an individual content creator later on, but definitely not now. For now you are loyal to the brand and don't think too much about it. After the honeymoon phase you will either end up loyal to them or you'll sober up and either move on or anti them. Maybe you will even blame them for changing or say they stopped caring about the quality of their stream despite it always being the same quality.

>>55427737
They saw that Myth had a bit of an cohesion issue which kind of came with all the talents being spread across Japan and America at the time and they wanted to try having Council avoid having the same fate. Say what you will about them, but Council has never gotten the same level of THEY HATE EACH OTHER posting like Ame and Gura did or Mori and Kiara did at various points over the years.

>>55427737
It would have been a good idea if they talked about like what was going on with council and myth, what had been happening and basically made it into a podcast type of thing.
Instead it was awkward

>>55413769
Nerissa is playing the long game because knew gura would spitestream over her all week so she didn't bring out the best.

>>55427737
Regular full-gen collabs were a decent idea that was working until Sana’s dog died.

>>55427489
Anon, this might come as a shock to you but not everybody started watching these people when they debuted in Hololive.

>>55430624
This. Brands are popularity

This thread quickly devolved into genuine gaslighting of anyone supporting the talents.
>You are confused about what you actually think
>You don't REALLY support them
>You didn't support them in the past
>You didn't do any number of things that I have no way of confirming but you just didn't because I said so
>You ackshually just....
There's no need to think any harder about who is behind this thread, eh sisters? Gaslight. Gatekeep. Girlboss. Are you really that insecure about your preferred company collapsing that you have to projectile vomit all over people who enjoy streamers that happened to be hired by a competitor?

>>55414158
I didn't watch her again after Construction Simulator and nothing I've seen of her since then has made me feel like I made the wrong choice. I hate girls who act stupid.

>>55415061
No surprise that management kept mori away from the new girls and just called it training
Not even trying to be a drama sister here, but it's fairly obvious that they believe that mori isn't a good influence

>>55432152
Are you honestly trying to defend mori?

>>55413391
You faggots will never be happy

>>55424430
Honestly, I think the difference between Council's and HoloX's debut is entirely attributed to Omega. Omega was the one who decided EN was going to be special, ditch the number generation, and he was so autistic about it he had the girls coached to avoid using "Gen 2" and constantly remind the fans not to refer to Council as "EN Gen 2." Honestly, Omega's shitty lore handicapped the Gen 2 girls from the start, and why they were pretty quick to ditch really sticking to kayfabe. Especially since Sana's graduation threw the entire gen theme into the garbage anyways. Tempus debut similarly had far more lore than necessary because Omega felt the need to self-insert himself into Tempus lore.

In contrast, Gen3's debut is much closer in style to that of HoloX's debut, and I think that's very much indicative of the managerial change that took place. Like Cover decided to actually give a shit about its EN branch, did the wise thing and threw Omega out of the kitchen before he burnt the whole restaurant down with whatever nonsense he was cooking. It's a shame, because I do think under better management, Council would be rivaling Myth in subscand ccv's, but because of piss-poor management throughout the past 2 years, they're going to be overtaken by Advent before the year ends simply because they were able to debut under new, better management.

>>55423372
Council really didn't have idol stuff in mind. Yet I thought this was a great performance during the festival. So did Omega just want more chuuni trash?

>>55438724
>In contrast, Gen3's debut is much closer in style to that of HoloX's debut
I liked that advent were posed as delinquents instead of gods, because it worked. But what makes Advent work is that everyone filled a good niche. You don't have overlap. I actually think we finally have that EN Miso soup, and I am hopeful it leads to more collabs. We need it.

>>55437932
What? I'm calling out people for trying to gaslight Bijou supporters. Did you get your threads mixed up?

>>55414431
>shitty pebble spell
I don't know if you've played or understand Elden Ring but spamming Glintstone Pebble and Rock Sling is like, one of the most optimal spell damage routes without getting into Physique cheese and super late game spells. They're your bread and butter spells and never really stop being your bread and butter spells. It was a good and fun stream but it was barely a "challenge" stream. That's just what most Sorcery runs look like unless you're going out of your way to play some of the wonkier spell builds.

>>55413391
The only bad game there is Zelda

>>55413527
>>55414431
I think she's beaten it 3 times or more, once with a randomizer.

>>55414431
>She's a bigger souls autist than Noel
Noel commits to no magic. Checkmate.

I do however, hope that Bijou has a good enough ER playthough. A lot of holomembers have good journeys, but some haven't finished it (Like Pekora and Miko)

>>55413391
Who the fuck plays solo Phasmophobia? That can't be fun.

>>55442163
bijou has also committed to rocks only, it's not just a regular run, probably about as autistic each other.

>>55414431
Why are you comparing her to Noel?
Bijou has her own appeal

>>55417326
Kronii fumbled too much

>>55416063
>and even kiara got some flack
Yep. The ONLY reason /vt/ flipped on Kiara is because she came out against male collabs. But back then that wasn't even a concern, and she had nothing else to offer (still doesn't).
Don't get me wrong, I'm a unicornchad and I'm with her on the male collabs, but that alone isn't reason enough to like her. She's still an insufferable libtard whore with a voice that sounds like nails on a chalkboard.

>>55442163
no magic is beign an autist? thats most of my runs even when i first started souls games lmao the rock is actually limiting herself to rock and crystal stuff

>>55444109
It used to be until the devs autistically cranked up the difficulty

>>55445119
i admire her choice but seriously she needs to stop being such a tryhard everything feels fake and too artificer
it's better if she just ease into her diva self image and just act like that. f

>>55442163
I feel like the rock/crystal theme would be been cool if the rock sling + meteorite staff combo didn't delete boss health so far. Rennala was the first real hurdle for her, but 2nd form Rennala is difficult in general. I'm hoping the latter bosses put up more of a fight against rock sling and force her to seek out alternative forms of rock/crystal damage. I'm hoping she gets Guraanq's rock incantations, but I'm not sure how viable they would be by the time she would get them, considering her early game is very INT focused. Maybe she can respec into it later if rock sling becomes to boring

>>55413391
The Elden Ring stream was great

>All debuff games
I wonder if Cover has laid out the numbers for the talents to help them pick games.

>>55416028
This. And Bijou seems to be going in that direction. Her 7 hour stream was dedicated to Kaela, since anyone that want to colab with Kaela on a regular basis will need a lot of endurance.
God, just imagine if Kaela and Bijou becomes a recurrent thing, and we end up getting 2 (two) pairs in Gen3?

>>55448248
Kaela plays shitty boring games though. Kaela will never touch a FromSoft game and Bijou is a fucking FromSoft nerd (she said she beat DS3 in 9 hours)

>>55413391

>>55415569
>>55417766
t. Pete

>>55449021
I still remember watching that live. That stream was so painful that I honestly thought it broke her. She ended up crying because of how badly it was going.

>>55413391
Probably that one where an nsfw streamer said she allowed minors on stream, and got insta-banned

>>55413391
I didn't watch her at all before elden ring and I don't like her meme stuff but she is the gamer of the gen, she also name dropped Kaela. Easy pickup

>>55413391
She fills a void that Holo EN needed to fill for a long time. She a souls pvp fag, she does the hardcore MMO raids and called the Zelda game too easy, so she handicapped herself.
She's an actual gamer. Maybe not speedrun autismo good but definitely miles ahead of everyone in HoloEN, and for that she's got my view and membership when it becomes available.

>>55452850
while also being a little shit. She is gonna be the perfect little gremlin that Ame has lost.

>>55452953
I kinda feel bad for ame because she never wanted to be solely gremlin but her fans did