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>>55372775
Keep in mind this is Gura's own fault. She had massive popularity during her debut and she did nothing with it. Now she's desperate and scared, I wish I can feel bad but this is her own choice.

>>55372775
Anon, she didn't acknowledge them 2 microseconds after they debuted. This means Gura despises them and wants them dead.

>>55373272
Just because you repeating your posts doesn't mean it's true

>>55372775
We know Shiori and Nerissa are whores but her not acknowledging Beeboo is concerning.

Oh boy, can't wait for the seethe from catalog and the spin on an alternate fantasy world where this is proof Gura hates the twins and can't stand them.

Leech

>>55372775
>Gura wants to protect our smile too
UniLORD, we cannot stop winning

>>55372841
I watched it 13times already
>Its fucking beautiful

>>55373455
Holy fuck she is actually terrified

>>55373455
She never said that

>>55373272
Yeah, she chose to come back to regular streaming exactly when the new girls appeared and to overlap specifically one fo them at her mandated streaming hour over and over again on debut week. Why the fuck should I like Gura for her cunty behavior which isn't helping HoloEN grow at all? Nobody looks up to Gura as a senpai for a reaosn, they ALL know she is flakey and selfish by nature.

>>55373610
>shitting on Gura
>trying to star holo vs holo conflict
Nijiniggers really are despicable

>>55372775
>Hololive GIRLS

>>55372775
Everyone shitting on Gura my rrat she personally picked and trained advent this was her secret project scouting running auditions and training them.

>>55372775
Of course she acknowledges them
do you think she would be streaming this much if she didn't think they were a threat

>>55373823
Why would you ever believe this?

>>55372775
Fuwamoco saving holoEN's soul.

Fuwamoco, Gura, Bijou would be great pillars.

>>55372775
Bau Bau

>>55372775
FWMC represents a big culture change for HoloEN so I can understand why some members may be worried. They'll drag HoloEN into idol culture whether they like it or not or they will die in irrelevancy. Gura is showing she acknowledges that and is willing to be part of that movement.

>>55373874
Because it's more plausible than the average generic gura shit thread you see popping up every 30 mins.

>>55373971
How is it plausible?

>>55373954
This is the funniest shit i have read all week

>>55373455
The fuck is a "shark beam". God EN vtube is a fucking mistake.

>>55374011
Stop moving goal post I get your angle here is to shit up the board but not everybody here is a retard schizo like you

>>55373272
Her recent behavior puts to bed the theory that Chumkeks have that Gura doesn't want big numbers, she wants to be a small streamer without so much attention.
Well, she had her chance to let Advent get the spotlight amd overtake her and she refused to let them do it, guess she is a numberfag like everyone else at the end of the day.

>>55374190
Her dick when it cums on you

>>55374013
Thanks, do you have anything to add? I didn't intend to be comedic.

>>55372775
>My wives are turning Gura into a proper idol
Feels fucking good man, FUWAMOCO ARE HEALING HOLOEN!!!

>>55372775
My beautiful shark wife can't be this cute.

>>55373272
I'm saying this as nicely as I can: Gura is a dumbass. And her colleagues were a bad influence on her, the usual noncommittal western streamers hidden behind 10 layers of irony. FWMC are the first EN to truly understand vtubing and idol culture, so she's following their lead, as she should.

>>55372775
Gen of change
Smiles are here to stay

>>55373610
Cry more trannie, gura already won and form her group with the doggo.

>>55372775
>What are platitudes, Ken-sama.
Correct answer.

>>55373272
people on this board are incredible because they genuinely are detached from reality.

like, seriously, how did she do nothing with it? she's the most popular vtuber in the world. what do you want her to do, a movie, an album?

>>55373954
Are you a comedian?

>>55374190
"*thing*beam----------" is a Japanese thing you retard

>>55372775
It wasn't a joke...
SHE'S AFRAID

why does noone acknowledge biboo??

>>55374691
>the usual noncommittal western streamers hidden behind 10 layers of irony.
Why are you pretending Gura isn't a coastal elite at heart whether or not she has ever been to the coasts with tons of irony and sarcasm and nihilism behind every googoo gaga peepee poopoo sentence she utters? HoloEN didn't make her this way, her environment and upbrigning did.

>>55374974
Mori has a gazillion songs, sponsorships and collabs with big companies, quirky stream assets and gimmicks, creative shit, key word: create. What has Gura done with her explosive debut popularity? Nothing. She waited until she lost that initial boost to come out with one bad song that doesn't even show off her singing ability and not even in her fanbase's language. Then she waited until she's indie-tier to release a 2nd song which is so bad it's forgotten a day after release and never even talked about. Ina was on Times Square. Kiara received infinitely more support and exposure due to her work ethic. Gura had potential to not only be the biggest vtuber, but she squandered it with her lack of ambition. Pekora, Filian, Ironmouse, Rushia, Coco, etc. A lot of other vtubers mog her in live views, VOD views, total numbers, merch sales, etc. And Gura could have dominated if she put in more effort but she didn't.

>>55373823
>Gura
>doing actual work
LMAO

>>55374896
anyone messaged jap on linkedin?

>>55375317
Mane's fault

The past like 30 days have been amazing to be a chumbud. Something really clicked. I don't even remember the last time Gura has been this switched on and effortlessly streaming. She's been watching Holomems when she isn't streaming. She's really connected with chumbies and other Holomems. It's great.

>>55375501
Oh hi Gura. We know you're scared. The damage is done. You didn't strike while the iron was hot. Game over.

>>55374471
Omega being fired and all the talk about "change in management" is a huge indicator.

If they're going balls deep with idol culture then signing on FWMC makes sense as the dogs are so far left into idol territory that it's making even the CGDCT leader Gura a little flabbergasted.

The big question is what's up with Shiori? Are they just throwing random tubers into the fray and seeing what sticks? I doubt Jap and new management doesn't have all the power, so I imagine there's still some that don't want to go balls deep into idols and EN3 is testing the waters with hyperfocused idol culture tuber (FWMC) and a diverse set of streamers: gamer (Bijou), vsinger (Nerissa), and NijiEN-type (Shiori). With the stagnation of HoloEN viewership in Myth/Council I'd say if FWMC gets super popular in EN3 we'll see higher proportion of hyperfocused idols in EN4 and further irrelevancy of Tempus and males.

>>55375000
See >>55374393

>>55374691
To be fair Kiara understood it but she doesn't act very Japanese. Dogs embody HoloJP.

>>55375317
Gura is the biggest vtuber.

>>55373272
Gura felt like she didnt deserve her popularity and being the most popular one stressed her too much, she didnt want to be the most popular one. She talked about it so many times
she probably sabotaged herself

>>55375598
Salome did and she's sub 8k shitter now.

>>55375598
What is this even supposed to mean? She has all the connections and resources to do whatever she wants.

>>55375674
Salome was entirely artificial.

>>55375382
Come on man even the sun shines on a dog's ass sometimes. Give her the benefit of the doubt. Unless you're already an anti anyways.

>>55375134
Would you acknowledge some rock on the side of the road?

>>55373272
This is the dumbest rrat nijiniggers try to pull, she doesn’t feel threatened, I think she’d actually feel better if she wasn’t on top of hololive. It’s much more likely that she simply felt invigorated by the new gen again and has found her motivation

>>55374308
She didn’t "take the spotlight from advent" anti fag. All of Hololive isn’t on hold whenever a new gen launches.
Yes she doesn’t want to infinitely grow but she still wants to keep going of course, she obviously felt burned out and this gen might’ve given her the mental boost she needed

>>55373272
Why are dramafags like this?

>>55373534
Indeed fellow SEA brother, just like when the white folks come over to SEAland and lift up our rocks and we scuttle around screeching!

>>55375317
Yes, she wasted a lot of potential, but that’s her problem isn’t it? If people know that and still watch her can you blame them for it? She just wants to be in a comfy, stable position, not in drama wars or aggressive marketing

>>55375616
Kiaras brand was always to be the genki white european girl in Japan, she realized that she’ll never pass as truly nihongo to the nips so she just embraced it

>>55375134
I appreciate Bijou, anon. Her humor and banter is top notch, and she seems to connect with anyone, even acting as a bridge between wildly different personalities, like fwmc and shiori. She's Advent's anchor. A rock, if you will.
But her lack of controversy is precisely why she's not talked about here. She's too solid.

when did people stop making fun of ywnbj?

>>55375134
she doesnt have any yab apparently
>she seems like she have a strict Thai parents

They have earned her respect

>>55376915
She hasn't earned theirs though. And she lost everyone else's

>>55377002
you're way too invested in this hun

>>55374974
>how did she do nothing with it?
>proceeds to list examples of doing nothing with it
beyond the corpo mandated streams gura has done literally nothing the last year. she could indeed have done something like work on an ep or album, she was the 'city pop shark' on debut for a damn good reason but instead she did nothing because for whatever reason she just doesn't want to work.

>>55377069
>hun
go back

>>55373455
She's really desperate now

>>55377190
>because for whatever reason she just doesn't want to work.
Must be in her shark blood or something.

It was nice while it lasted Gura.

>>55377249
it's short for honey

>>55373954
Based take
In addition to Nerissa, both Fuwamoco and Gura represent the last hope for Western. The animation world needs to be saved from the dreck of kiddy animation, Disney, capeshit, calarts style smiles, SJWs, and 10 seasons of who gives a fuck adult comedy. Makoto Shinkai could not do it, and Hololives idol culture may be our last hope.

>>55372775
The way she says it sounds to me like
"I heard them doing that cringe shit like saying we wanna protect your smiles and you stupid fucks seem to like that so I'm gonna pretend to do something like that too."

I should really stop going to this board, the brainrot is getting to me.

>>55377390
Which you don't eat so kill yourself faggot

>>55377002
You're such a fucking loser lol

>>55372775
Gura is really impressionable sometimes. That pledge to the fans really had impact with how it made her think of her own fans' smiles.

Always remember it took Vesper to be terminated for Gura to come back and stream consistently again.

>>55375004
He just posted Ui Beam, anon. He's just a JPfag.

>>55372775
>streams over her new kouhais every day to steal views from them and get more superchat while more eyes are on Hololive now thanks to the debut
Hehe, nothing personal, Advents.

>>55375613

It was nearly 2 years since they last had a new female EN streamer. That Advent being a group of 4 different types of streamers is prudent to see where the market is.

Besides, the other 3 members of Advent are doing well too. All have good subscriber growth after debut and are maintaining high CCV.

If all the new members were in FWMC vein, Advent as a whole would be doing worse. There is only so much the audience for FWMC can watch, and all the viewers who prefer any of the other three would have been left wanting.

>>55373272
What was her thing again? She screwed up her debut and said the letter A and then all the Westoids thought it was so cute? Sometimes the excuse making is very magical indeed. Wait, you expected more? Huh.

>>55377442
I feel the same way about this board.

These nuntjobs will use anything to shit on Gura huh? Never seen a less controversial girl get so much hate.

>>55375871
I've seen this "motivation" rrat across several threads now. Gura's damage control brigade is out in full, unpaid force today!

>>55372775
It's the moment we have been waiting for. The queen gave the doggies her blessing. They are now considered safe to watch.

She is a natural comedian unlike the others need segments and script . This Shark just interact with chat , clippers gonna have solid clip it alone.

>>55378525
>""""works"""" as a streamer, one of the most popular
>Takes long periods of time off without streaming, sometimes unannounced
>Refuses to communicate with anyone during these periods, even though other members who take breaks still communicate with their audience somewhat
>Come back "motivated", spew words of love and appreciation while collecting those fat checks from paypigs
>Stream something for a week, maybe a whole month before fucking off again
>Do this multiple times
Gura is the Axl Rose of vtubing

>>55378270
Indeed. I'd say FWMC and Shiori are subjects to test the waters as they're unique enough to not really overlap with existing members.

As far as if we'll see more FWMC types, it's up to the market to decide. I'm interested in the effects it will have on Myth and Council as a result. We're already seeing some immediate effects (e.g OP's clip).

One downside of having gens where everyone is off doing their own thing is lack of cohesiveness. It's kinda jarring in collabs and I can be convinced they can make better content if they're all working towards the same goal instead of being fractured like CGDCT vs non-CGDCT.

>>55373954
Bets on who gets left behind? 10nijinigger slaves on Mori and Kronii

>>55378270
"NIJIEN-type" Fucking kill yourself.

>>55377442
And Bau Bau is just "You stupid fucks, we barked for you so give us all your money"
The brainrot...

>>55375871
>doesn't feel threaten
>streamed over Bijou yesterday and stayed up for as long as Bijou even though Gura would usually just stop way earlier

Come on

>>55378905
also
>Returns to actively streaming in the period where the newbies are forced to stream on her usual timeslot, the one time where her ghosting would negatively affect HoloEN the least

>>55379492
I cannot even imagine what a collab between FWMC and Kronii would be like right now and I don't think people want to see that. At least with Fauna I can see her collabing with everyone in Advent, and some in EN3 have already expressed interest in that.

Mori doesn't seem like she would fade into irrelevancy. She's doing fine with her music stuff. If she continues to do stuff like she's doing now with One Piece and Reol she'll stay relevant.

In the scenario both Mori and Kronii decide to embrace CGDCT then even better and nijis can seethe even more. I think it's somewhat realistic given the new management and how Tempus is really actually irrelevant now.

>>55378905
See
>>55378525

>>55372775
Homobeggar status????

>>55372775
>Gura happier than ever, complimenting her kohai, saying she's fully motivated and that she should be more positive towards her fans
>thread full of mentally ill sisters saying she's scared and having a meltdown
why is this board filled with seething troons who are looking for any excuse to shit on Hololive?

>>55374974
>what do you want her to do, a movie, an album?
Stream without taking month long "health" breaks. Its not fucking hard.

>>55379642

Uh...what?

If you are mad Shiori being labeled a "NIJIEN-type" you are responding to the wrong comment.

>>55378286
this post reeks of SEA

>>55380550
People can be motivated by fear. Honestly I think its a good thing that she's encouraged to stream as to not to get left behind

>>55381264
But she's not. I genuinely don't care about shilling her ass against the usual seething sisters but saying that Gura is a numberfag scared of losing her fans is just plain wrong.

>>55373455
The sheer desperation kek

>>55373610
The funniest part is that she's done the exact same song and dance before. Chumbies act like this is some kind of victory for them because "at least she's streaming now!!!" but she'll just go back to lazy shark mode in a few weeks once she feels like she's done what she could to stop her numbers hemorrhaging further.

>>55381662
>But she's not.
Yeah I'm sure it's just a coincidence that all the internet problems, tummy hort and being so busy all just magically disappeared as soon as EN3 debuted and that it has absolutely nothing to do with her she feeling the need to make sure none of her fans abandon her out of fear. I'm also sure it'll also be a coincidence when all these problems magically return again once the honeymoon period is over and she decides it's time to fuck off again after securing the loyalty of her fans until EN4. She did the exact same shit with EN2 when they debuted. The only ones who can't see it are you delusional chumbies.

>>55381993
Maybe not a coincidence. Doesn't mean the conclusion is her being scared. You can call Gura lazy and you'd have a point but her being a numberfag is again plain wrong and absolutely obvious to anyone who isn't a retarded threadreader.

>>55381993
Gura has literally never been a numberfag, people around her like Kiara, Mori and cover management are the ones that even made her acknowledge her numbers at any point

>>55379791
>OMG SISTER SHE STREAMED OVER HER
Unironically kill yourself

>>55381993
Nobody claimed it’s a coincidence, in fact most people agree that it’s directly related. What you don’t understand is that people say that it isn’t that she’s feeling threatened

bump

>>55373272
It's funny and sad that you prop up Gura as this big bad to take down, like some sort of weird projection for trauma that you need to overcome. Then again mentally ill bullies always pick weak targets that can't fight back.

>>55372775
Doggos grooming gura....

>>55375613
If we're going with your rrat then shiori being a "one last try" type of thing makes the most sense. Rolling out male collabs so late into the lifespan of holoen with so much mixed reception from both the streamers and fans was just a cluster fuck that never could have ended with good data to see where the market could be. Having shiori build herself up as best she can around the idea that she will be doing male collabs from the get go, and then seeing how she performs, would be a good indicator. The biggest issue is how intentionally vague she's being about it all. It feels like she's just fucking with people more than anything I mean a collab on "????? Channel?" Come on.

>>55372775
Do people take the stuff BrownVTM posts on twitter seriously?

>Gura doesn't stream
>SHE'S LAZY SHE HATES HER FANS SHE'S GONNA GRADUATE
>Gura streams
>SHE'S THREATENED BY THE NEW GIRLS SHE HATES THEM
>Gura doesn't talk about EN3
>SHE HATES THEM SHE WANTS TO KEEP HER VIEWERS IN THE DARK ABOUT THEIR EXISTENCE
>Gura talks about EN3
>SHE WANTS TO STEAL THEIR FANS WHAT A LEECH

dramaniggers are such a fucking mess lately, actually pathetic
mindbroken by Hololive doing well and the fans enjoying it

>>55388445
This. I'm a Ruffian and I think Gura just started streaming again not out of fear but newly gained motivation after seeing her new colleagues such fwmc.

no actual holofan is pushing this "holo vs holo" shit.

>>55388735
Gura wants to protect your smile.
Ame and Kronii wants to ruin it

>>55388445
gura should have waited a few more months to come back

>>55373954
>They'll drag HoloEN into idol culture
Lmao, i'm saving all of these posts so when they'll inevitably collab with Tempiss you'll look back and see how stupid you are.

>>55388735
lmao. There's multiple threads gloating about how superior some Holo is in some aspect over other oshis all the fucking time.

>>55388938
She came back as soon as her streak of japan trips ended and there is no problem with that.

>>55389819
Watch streams BAUBAU!
They didn't even say "Boys" or related words and any kind of foul language during Typing of the Dead except the misunderstanding. They even censored the words.
They are extremely protective of being seiso idols, you'd see them pull a Katana if they would be near males.

>>55372841
But it worked for them. 100k incoming

Based guardian dogs literally healing HoloEN

>>55388641
It's also likely that she was feeling depressed when being busy with a ton of things and management decided to favor the homos out of all things (gutting her 3D concert last year was the tipping point), and then she got her cheerfulness back thanks to EN3 and the possibility of 2 homos graduating soon.
Personally I don't really care, she sounds extremely happy these days and she's even interacting with chat all the time so I'm happy as well.

>>55372841
>everything I don't like is an ad
Continue to seethe

>>55375317
>Ina was on times square
Ina didn't lift a finger in making that happen, bad-faithchama

>>55372775
why is Gura asking if people is having a good time, just do your job, is too late for you Gura

>>55373534
yep gura afraid she gonna lose her entire fan base cuz it prob will happen if she woulda stayed to streaming 1 or 2 times a month.

>>55388445
what part of IS TOO LATE GURA you don't understand
>And so you're back
>From outer space
>I just walked in to find you here with that sad >look upon your face
>I should have changed that stupid lock, I >should have made you leave your key
>If I'd known for just one second you'd be back to bother me
>Go on now, go, walk out the door
>Just turn around now
>'Cause you're not welcome anymore

>>55372775
I love my shark wife.

>>55395269
>tens of thousands of chumbuds still welcome her with open arms whenever she streams
>s-shut up they don't count

>>55388445
This happened last time when a gen dropped. Everyone wants the crown but in the end Gura remains EN queen as always

>>55394520
>>55395223
>>55395269
stop spamming the thread eslschizo

>>55372775
Sisters??? Our response?

>>55388641
>not out of fear but newly gained motivation
i see your selective blindness, when you ignore that she streams at the same time as them

>>55395445
You mean the same time she's been streaming at for 3 years? Gura was always known for almost never deviating from her time.

>>55372775
Wow, Gura is already the #1 vtuber but still she sees ways to grow and become even more dominant.

>>55374974
An album really isn't that much to ask considering a big part of her brand is being good at singing.

>>55373823
She's too socially awkward to do recruiting work. I'm sure she's talked with the new girls since they joined the Discord but recruiting? Nah.

>>55372775
This situation seems to me like Gura was too insecure and afraid of going all in on kayfabe before. But now she saw someone that is able to actually pull it off without being considered cringey so she's been getting ideas.

>>55379273
God imagine biting into 2 inches of pure iceberg lettuce. Gross.

>>55372775
She acknowledged them day 1 retard, this is threadniggering levels of threadreading
the narrative was always "Gura doesn't talk to the new girls"

>>55398693
I blame Mori

>>55388641
>>55393563
It's funny because she herself said that she felt the same excitement due to advent that she felt when she first started and when council debuted, and admitted she'd been somewhat depressed the past year. But of course the catalogniggers drama-discussing don't watch streams so they wouldn't know.

AND SO YOU'RE BACK
FROM TUMMY HURWTS
I JUST WALKED IN TO FIND YOU HERE WITH THAT SAD LOOK UPON YOUR FACE
I SHOULD HAVE CANCELLED THAT STUPID SUB
I SHOULD HAVE MADE YOU LEAVE YOUR STREAM
IF I'D KNOWN FOR JUST ONE SECOND YOU'D BE BACK TO GRIFT ON ME
OH ON NOW, GO, WALK OUT THE DOOR
JUST TURN AROUND NOW
CAUSE I BAUBAU FOREVERMORE

>>55377442
i just can't believe her anymore...

>>55372775
Too late bitch

>>55373598
deaf and blind, buddy?

>>55373272
Not her fault that management was going full retard for over a year.

>>55399196
unironically i think someone from inside was pulling her down, but it is/was probably management

>>55373272
>>55378905
These must be bitter audition rejects, right? It's peak female behavior. No way a man is acting like this.

>>55402515
honestly, if gura has to decide merch, direct her animated and 3D MV's and streams. what in the actual fuck does management do with the 24 hours of their days?

>>55403040
probably. they cant understand that gura is just naturally better than them. she was a huge success before debut, while uploading once every 3 months, just by being her.

>>55380051
Kronii? Needs yoga
Mori? Needs to take the angst out of rapping
Then they'll be able to wield the true power of Moe

>>55391930
>katana
nin nin?

>>55402102
gura does the "frequent streams followed by void" thing even before she became gura, it's just her way of operating.

watch again her first birthday stream, where she cried uncontrolably at every positive message. watch how happy she got when myth did an impromptu collab with her in minecraft.

she loves her career, her fans, hololive. dont let the envious nijis get to your head

>>55374691
>I'm saying this as nicely as I can: Gura is a dumbass
say no more, you hit the nail on the mark

>>55380051
FuwaMoco already has to deal with Shiori’s autism dealing with Kronii’s would just be a death blow.

>>55403228
Mori produces hard bangers when she's not making serious songs

Her first album is the best thing she made, and her King cover with gura also slaps.

>>55403565
I agree, her angst has brought her far and lends her a powerful skill
But when it comes to the problematic songs, it's not serious. it's angsty and holier than thou
serious doesn't have to be gloom and doom, passive-aggressive, or 3deep5u
It could be a simple song about madagascar custard cake and how she loves it, and still be serious

>>55375302
She also tries to hide behind layers of irony, she's just dumb as bricks and don't know how to do it properly because she's involuntarily unsocial, so she ends up fleshing it out in a bizzare Streisand effect despite her best efforts

>>55401380
kek

>>55376852
That's what the king wants you to think

>>55375317
If you rise high, you fall hard. she's a natural at not falling hard, and that's probably the best for a pioneer like her, and for the scene in general
She's smarter than she lets off

>>55374691
>>55404419
Why all posts about Gura inevitably have a level of projection in them? It's funny seeing absolute losers try to project their perspective on a successful person. A lot of people that play a stupid role are actually pretty smart.

>>55402985
Management is way more hands off than that.

>>55404789
Okay, so that means you think being dumb is not smart?

>>55377190
what the fuck does "city pop shark" even mean???
>Ooo it's a shark that sings city pop music. Watch her plox
It's fucking stupid

>>55376299
Nah, more than that, she's also comfortable with where she's at now. Let's see if Fuwamoco splashes the pond hard enough to make her rethink it again...

>>55377442
Hey anon...
does the brainrot feel like it's correct?
or perhaps you're just scared of the chance that it was true and you will be hurt by it?

>>55405918
There were tens of thousands of vocal people adamantly certain Gura is a great singer and they would be willing to buy her albums at any price back when she was active.

>>55389819
Bend over omega-chan (again).

>>55406621
so she's gonna exploit that and stain her brand by being a huge disappointment catering to an unattainable hype from the very beginning?
she wants to do this as her life. like hell is she gonna let something like this squander her future

>>55378548
it's actually rewarding because there's so much material so I can connect dots and get my lightbulb moment repeatedly like it's the 4th of july lol

>>55406867
No. I'm just saying that pretending potential wasn't there is fucking stupid. She doesn't have to realize her potential and it's probablybetter for her mental health to not do it, but she absolutely had avenues to reach much greater heights.

>>55378905
I want Axl to debut as a Vtuber

>>55407063
you think she won't reach greater heights by holding off on a potential short term reward on behalf of her conscience?
what sort of high do you think is worth it anyway?

>>55374974
It's pretty amazing what mental gymnastics losers will do to cope with people being successful. They will keep moving goalposts until they're convinced the other person is a failure.

>>55372775
Acknowledge? Sure. Interact with? Fuck no. Even Nerissa said she's barely spoken to Gura besides the introductions.

>>55408195
>she won't reach greater heights by holding off
Yes.

>>55377684
Nah Dude, that was an echo that reverberates with her heart strings that made her realize it's exactly what she wants, and works towards (or at least daydream) all this time

>>55408623
>Nerissa
Gura is explicitly one of the Aqua tier members, you do not simply just join the company and interact with her everyday, especially with no middleman to help you, she needed Kiara to meet Okayu and she loves her, she likes people like Marine who knows how to handle the autistic members

>>55408667
understandable.
have a nice day in hell

>>55372775
quit advertising your clips

>>55373272
So true sis

>>55375967
she did the exact same thing when council debuted. she's gonna go back to taking week long breaks again eventually. she's at the top of vtubing that she has no incentive to try anymore. i genuinely hope the dogs become more popular than her (probably impossible) just so hololive has someone actually hardworking leading the branch

>>55416091
shut up retard

>>55372775
>gura leeching from the twins
kek how the tables have fallen

>holo vs holo

>>55373272
They don't have strength to be live there Advent girls

>>55387814
you type like a faggot