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55308074 No.55308074 [Reply] [Original]

They are not *true* EN talents.

>> No.55308113

BAU BAU

>> No.55308140

bau bau

>> No.55308164

They speak better English than Bae.

>> No.55308197
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there's a cosmic level battle going on.

>> No.55308196

>>55308074
Scotsman? Is that you?

>> No.55308214

BAU BAU

>> No.55308219

>>55308074
Of course not anon, they are Holo JP, doing Holo EN.

>> No.55308234

>>55308197
The fact that neither acknowledged the words nor the chat spamming it really made me think.

>> No.55308238

>evidence of them speaking clearly
>decide to speak even more esl for the uwu woof woof! xD
>they won't change
I-it's k-k-kayfabe....yyou're just a nijinig!

>> No.55308269

>>55308238
I really don’t understand how you can seethe this hard over two cuties, perhaps because your audition failed.

>> No.55308289

>>55308074
They're kinda they're own thing for various reasons

>> No.55308321

Miko’s Japanese
Fuwamoco’s English
Both very popular

>> No.55308327

>>55308074
So we can finally kick out Kiara for being the only actual ESL in HoloEN right?
IRyS doesn't count, do your reps. And the doggos don't count either.

>> No.55308329

>>55308074
I smell onions sauce getting jealous. Get your own twins, samurai.

>> No.55308387

>>55308238
Bau bau bau bau

>> No.55308491

>>55308269
>over two cuties
Once you've seen it, even by accident, it makes them unbearable to watch. I kind of wish I wasn't exposed to it but now it's all I see when I hear them talk.

>> No.55308565

>>55308238
UN UN

>> No.55308588

>>55308491
Are you saying that vtubers acting differently irl vs in kayfabe was a shocking revelation to you? What the hell?

>> No.55308624

>>55308491
>doxniggered himself
Had it coming

>> No.55308637

>>55308491
I’ve seen them, you retard. I don’t care if you’re a homosexual, but don’t project that on me,

>> No.55308682

they admitted they were dog first language, its not a big deal mori is cafeteria lady first language.

>> No.55308695

>>55308074
No you see they're actually JP holos that could speak english which is a good thing

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>>55308074
trash bait

>> No.55308805

>>55308074
BAU BAU

>> No.55308809

They'll have better friends, opportunities, concerts, events, cover music and original songs if they move to jp, they are ten times more entertaining than HoloX members as a whole.

>> No.55308820

>>55308588
You're completely glossing over just how hard their kayfabe is. They sound like 8 year olds and act like it. That right there is my problem with them. Sounding young and cute is normal for VAs but this is just uncomfortable. They show hints they're cultured as fuck but they make their collabs and conversations awkward if a genmate makes a lewd joke. Ffs just laugh and have fun. We all know you two know what was just said and no one will be offended. Kayfabe ironically. Sora laughs at lewd jokes when she's around yabai girls...

>> No.55308841

>>55308238
They'll stop. In less than a year they'll have dropped the voices and a lot of the duo gimmick. The only one who's maintained an extreme voice long term is Luna and that's only because of her CIA supersoldier training, she's built extremely different and nobody else is going to do a voice thing like hers. The FuwaMoco you're seeing now with the uguu talk and four hands on the same keyboard will, for most of their career, exist only as a thing to cringe at once a year in a debut react stream. Even Haachama only sometimes pretends to be really bad at English, and she's a genuine adult ESL learner.

>> No.55308853

>>55308074
And that's what makes them the best.

>> No.55308900

>>55308234
Why would they mention zucchini or yabba dabba do? Is this some reference to something that happened in their PL that I'm unaware of?

>> No.55309040

>>55308820
The awkwardness in response to lewd jokes is part of the overall appeal of the group, at least to me. You wouldn't expect them to laugh and have fun while playing a horror game either, so that can't be the ideal in every situation even if you'd personally prefer it.
It also sets up a possible gradual evolution that keeps them more interesting long term.

>> No.55309161

>>55308841
I hope so. If they tone it down I'll finally start watching them. Anons that know them well seem to think they'll maintain the performance forever which sucks because they tick a lot of boxes for anons like me that don't want to be so filtered by them.

>> No.55309260

>>55308074
what does that even mean? What qualifies as a true talent? Isn't Bijau thai?

>> No.55309351

>>55308074
>They are not *true* EN talents.
Keep begging last samurai

>> No.55309352

>>55308820
The keyfabe helps them. That's why when Rissa starts going "Are you fucking kidding me? You are blowing my fucking mind right now" you start wondering "Weren't you supposed to be an idol? What's with the swearing? Kiara much?". Meanwhile Mococo says "motherfucker" and it's adorable because of the way the setup the situation and contrast to their keyfabe. It's the same stuff that made Miko FAQ and similar situations from JP chuubas so cute to western viewers back in the day.

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>>55308074
they're better

>> No.55309422

>>55309352
>surprised that rissa cusses like kiara, her kamioshi
Go back

>> No.55309643

>>55309161
at their previous gig the kayfabe only got more extreme as the years went on

>> No.55309656

>>55309422
Marine is her oshi though

>> No.55309701

bau

>> No.55309815

>>55309656
>EN Oshi: Kiara
>JP Oshi: Marine
we are, later virgins

>> No.55310006

>>55308074
No they are better, these cute dogs have restored my faith in humanity

>> No.55310059

>>55309422
With Kiara context it makes sure, obviously, but not like she has to emulate one of the least idol-ish traits after proclaiming how much she loves idols. Either way it shows the contrast with FuwaMoco approach.

>> No.55310097

>>55309161
>>55308841
Do you fags even know who your dealing with?, you think they'll stop... Thats funny

>> No.55310152

>>55308841
>They'll stop.
I have the smuggest grin right now.

>> No.55310164

>>55308491
They cant be that bad, dont ruin this for me

>> No.55310225

>>55308074
Yea, they’re JP tier. Much better than your average shiori whore

>> No.55310235

>>55308074
Yeah, cause they're not cancer like most of EN.

BAU BAU!!!!!!

>> No.55310281

>>55310164
>Caring about roommates
He's BSing. They're actually pretty cute.

>> No.55310471

>>55310164
I don't think anon is talking about looks because they're not ugly or anything.

>> No.55311974

>>55310164
>>55310281
I wasn't talking about looks, it's the immersion that was immediately lost. The uwu baby talk kayfabe is bad enough as it is, but accidentally seeing that shit made it impossible to even try to enjoy the escapism. It's all I see. It's not an issue with the rest of EN because they're nothing like Fuwamoco.

>> No.55312004

>>55311974
That doesn’t even make any sense, anon. I know that you didn’t expect something outlandish, right?

>> No.55312383

>>55308238
>*gasp* they are vtubers, and they act!
you must be a retard to just realize now.

>> No.55313062

Doxnig should really hang them self

>> No.55313230

>>55311974
So you're retarded and mad over us finally getting EN(s) that do proper kayfabe

>> No.55313280

Wait, do they not have boyfriends?

>> No.55313423

The mere-kayfabe defense offered by FWMC supporters doesn't work. Kayfabe per se is not intrinsically good. Everyone recognizes that the content of the kayfabe matters

>> No.55313528

>>55313280
They have me

>> No.55313543

>>55313423
Good thing their content is also good, then. I love everything about them. They are exactly how I would want my holos to be.

>> No.55314045

>>55313543
Sure, and in that respect it's clearly a matter of personal taste. For some their content will be too extreme, for others not so. Responding to someone who is filtered by the content with "no, you don't understand, it's kayfabe and therefore good" doesn't make any sense and it has plagued the discussion surrounding these two for the past week.

>> No.55314112

>>55314045
Does "They are not "true" EN talents" make sense?

>> No.55314134

>>55313280
They have each other.

>> No.55314223

>>55313280
Idols aren't supposed to have boyfriends
or more specifically, their fans are their boyfriend

>> No.55314250

>>55314112
All the OP clearly communicates is that this is a shitpost thread

>> No.55314292

>>55314250
We can agree on that

>> No.55314380

FUWAMOCO ARE PART OF HOLOLIVE ENGLISH
THEY SUPPORT TRANS RIGHT
>pink and light blue color scheme
>(F)uwawa
>(M)ococo
MtF -> Fuwawa who has big boobs
FtM -> Mococo who had boob shrinking surgery
Pronouns for them are they/them (for the channel).

>> No.55314415

>>55311974
>it's the immersion that was immediately lost
>accidentally seeing that shit made it impossible to even try to enjoy the escapism
then you should give up on any form of escapism from now on, because you WILL get spoilers on anything that's popular.
it's over for you. the rest of us are fine though, our minds aren't as simplistic and rigid as yours.

>> No.55314663

>>55308197
It’s all coming together

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>>55313280

>> No.55315139

Suisei loves dogs, I want to see her interact with the dogs.

>> No.55315251

>>55308841
>In less than a year they'll have dropped the voices and a lot of the duo gimmick
Do you anticipate them doing solo streams? Is that something they ever did in their previous life?

>> No.55315263

>>55308820
>They sound like 8 year olds
They said the same about Gura, and she became a superstar. I’m thinking they’re going to be big.

>> No.55315343

>>55315263
crying shame they don't have cunny models otherwise they'd be perfect

>> No.55315391

>>55308074
BAU BAU MOTHER FUCKER

>> No.55315478

>>55315343
en3 should have all been cunny except for rissa who is the onee san

>> No.55315698

>>55315251
They did some Solo streams in their PL, but for the most part they are a duo.
They won't stop the voice ever, anyone who thinks they will are stupid.
Not like that is a big feat, even Kiara didn't stop doing that after 3 years.

>> No.55317136

they aren't even really dogs

>> No.55318014

>ctrl+f "kayfabe"
>11 results

Can you faggots stop using /pw/ terms on /vt/? Tell it like it is: FUWAMOCO are roleplaying. They are not doing a work, they aren't staging every individual BAU BAU and UN UN and they sure as Hell are not going to stop acting like dogs because a few disgruntled anons feel childish watching them.

Roleplay is not Kayfabe. Having fun acting like a dog is not particularly difficult or complicated, FUWAMOCO won't break character anytime soon, not because it's necessary to do so, but because they enjoy roleplaying as dogs. They are still talented, and the roleplay is just a means to not flaunt their fluency in Japanese and extreme work ethic. It is for this simple reason that Pekora, Suisei, Miko and several others in the JP branch already have much respect for FUWAMOCO.

Ironically, the ones who are the most adultlike in this scenario are those who can enjoy childish content and not bitch and moan about how vtubers ought to act like. BAU FUCKING BAU.

>> No.55318195

>>55318014
>It is for this simple reason that Pekora, Suisei, Miko and several others in the JP branch already have much respect for FUWAMOCO
They only have respect for their numbers you fucking braindead furry

>> No.55318249

>>55308074
Yes that's the strat here dumbass congrats on seeing the marketing

>> No.55319003

>>55317136
No way...
Next you'll tell me that Gura isnt actually a shark catgirl?

>> No.55320154

>>55317136
They are on all levels but the physical one BAU BAU

>> No.55320313

>Vtuber doesn't act like a western whore with bodycounts on the double digits
Not EN!!!

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I don't know why they are being singled out as ESL when Shiori speaks the most pig disgusting Chinese Pig English possible, with clipped vowels, dropped subjects, confused sentence structure, and just completely incomprehensible word slurries (what the fuck was her speech last night? Vtubing is like climbing a mountain, you meet people along the way, and you have many friends? So lest do our best? what the fuck are you babbling about you weird bitch?).

>> No.55321246

>>55320814
She was being a real motherfluffer, blathering on about nothing. I’ll cut her some slack, but the real test will be after the one month mark.

>> No.55321652

>>55308164
Bae is also an unacceptable hire, since Australians are ESL.

>> No.55322035

>>55308841
you have to be baiting

>> No.55322461

>>55308074
I get to watch HoloJP without needing to learn Japanese. FuwaMoco is a godsend.

>> No.55322817

>>55314380
Bait

>> No.55323246

>>55313423
Dont you have some bear smut over on /v/ to seethe over?

>> No.55323330

>>55323246
NTA but the bear sex scene was astroturfed shill material and the exact moment Baldur's Gate 3 released those threads suddenly stopped being made.

>> No.55323413

>>55322461
>Suisei
>Choco
>Subaru
>Flare
>Towa
>Polka
>Lui
JP members that talk normally like the rest of Advent. Luna is the only member that's close to Fuwamoco and she's an EXTREME example. They're not normal JPs and their content isn't either. Most JPs in Hololive don't treat their fans like literal babies using baby talk. That pledge is unironically one of the cringiest things that has come out of EN since its inception, and to think this board of all places bought into it will never not be funny.

>> No.55323573

>>55308900
I believe 'yabba dabba doo' is considered to be Vesper's catchphrase (note: boomers associate this with Fred Flintstone which adds an extra layer of confusion).

>> No.55323651

>>55323413
I enjoy watching children's cartoons and vtubers. I am a grown adult and I can laugh at baby sensory videos if I want to. I regularly make stupid noises to my pet dogs because I'm not exactly beholden to acting mature because some faggot on a Taiwanese basket weaving bulletin board thinks it's "cringe."

>That pledge is unironically one of the cringiest things that has come out of EN
How? Promising your viewers you're gonna make them smile is cringeworthy to you? Look in the fucking mirror.

>> No.55323707

Rrat: the twins are the biggest menhera duo, hiding behind their cutesy RP. Even worse than Russia.

>> No.55323762

>>55323413
I don't care about hololive at all. I'm just glad the twins are doing great. I loved that pledge without caring about whatever the fuck you were talking about. LOL

>> No.55323809

>>55323707
That’d be really hot, so probably not.

>> No.55323902

>>55323707
I actually believe this rrat, as stupid as it is. The very first Q&A they did had about four questions asking if they argue a lot with each other, and Fuwamoco Morning has a corner literally about them sorting out misunderstandings. I would not be surprised at all if these two did some heinous shit to each other in their PL behind closed doors. That being said, it's clear they mean the world to each other.

>> No.55323974

>>55323651
The wording of the pledge is what I meant. I genuinely can't understand how it's only me who sees how hilariously cringe it is like holy shit. It's the kind of shit you see furries and trannies say on xitter and fucking 4chan loved it kek. Even the pledge in of itself is fucking awful. Why not just...do those things? How insecure must they be that they have to promise everyone they'll be good lmao. Walk the walk before you woof the woof.

>> No.55323984

>the jp experience
What do you guys even mean by this? JPs are not a monolith. Fuwamoco is basically like Luna (with the strict adherence to kayfabe and baby voice), except way less coherent because there are two of them. There are plenty of other JPs that don't do exaggerated voices or lean too much into kayfabe.
I feel like you only say this because they also speak JP frequently.

>> No.55324149

>>55323974
You type like you're underage.
>>55323984
>Over half of HoloJP openly loves Fuwamoco
>"Guys they're just Luna!!! This is a bad thing by the way!!!"

>> No.55324205

Good.

>> No.55324228

>>55324149
Over half of HoloJP openly loves Calliope so they are actually just like her.
Same argument.

>> No.55324319

>>55308074
Yeah they are better

>> No.55324436

>>55324149
>Over half of HoloJP openly loves Fuwamoco
They love the gimmick and want to collab for the numbers. Open your fucking eyes you brachycephalic piece of shit.

>> No.55324452

>>55324228
I'm not arguing with you, I'm pointing out that despite saying they aren't a monolith, you think you can speak on behalf of HoloJP.

>> No.55324484

>>55308074
they're english speaking JP vtubers
now bau bau

>> No.55324636 [DELETED] 

>>55324436
> you brachycephalic piece of shit
You are either underaged or a manchild. What a pretentious piece of shit. XD

>> No.55324644

>>55324452
You're the one speaking on their behalf though. You're saying that they love them because they are exactly the same as fuwacoco.
Also I only just noticed how you inserted this shit there
>This is a bad thing by the way!!!
Who said it's a bad thing? You're the first one doing that.

>> No.55324643

>>55323974
They explicitly stated that they wants to hit 1 million subs in a year as one of their goals. I suppose that's one way to reach that end.

>> No.55324721

>You are either underaged or a manchild
>XD
The ironing

>> No.55324728

Baubros might be more defensive than even Shiorikeks

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>> No.55324803

>>55323974
More like you're the only one who can't see how kino the pledge is. It's like light at the end of tunnel, it's like sunshine rays peeking through the clouds as storm subsides. The only promises we got from EN so far were about homo collabs and half of them were broken too.
Suddenly FuwaMoco arrive with their unprecedented appreciation for idols (not just empty love expression from some newbie grifter but actual love for the medium and proof they've been in the industry for ages) and powerlevel putting most /a/nons to shame, completely stomping entirety of EN combined. They're also the first ones to care about moe kayfabe, the thing people sought out in Hololive JP that was never before delivered in EN.
Finally they finish things off with a pledge, an incredibly powerful symbol/gesture showing their commitment to the cause, a warranty assuring we can put our trust in them, knowing they will protect our smiles.

FuwaMoco are the shining hope of vtubing in EN and I'm proud to be a Ruffian. They are what people desired from Myth three years ago when Cover entered the EN market but it only came to fruition this week. They fulfilled all those long forgotten expectations and went further beyond with the pledge. Bau bau.

>> No.55324807

>>55323974
This is one of the cringest posts on this entire board.

>> No.55324842

>>55324644
>You're saying that they love them because they are exactly the same as fuwacoco.
No? I'm pretty sure JPs like "Fuwacoco" because they appeal to the JP audience. How stupid are you that basic facts like this go over your head?

>> No.55324884

>>55323413
>Suisei
New? Go watch her before she wrecked her vocal cords
>Subaru
You mean the loud duck?
A few Holos has also said they got bullied when they get younger because of theyre unique voices. Luna and Miko are much worse baby talker than the twins. The twins would fit right in JP.

>> No.55324885

>>55308219
Japanese is not their native language.

>> No.55324902

>>55324643
Why are they numberfagging? Why not just be grateful for the huge platform and unique opportunity to share a channel with their sister? Subs mean nothing so it's just another stupid thing they've done. CouncilRyS haven't hit 1m and they all get outfits and 3D. It's pointless numberfagging.

>> No.55324908

>>55324842
You said they are "the jp experience", retard. You got mad when you got told that not all other JPs are like them.

>> No.55324910

>>55324721
Learn to spell first. XD

>> No.55324917

>>55323902
>>55323707
You people are sick in the head looking to make up anything to make other peoples lives as terrible as your own.

>> No.55324965

>>55324910
Not only are you a literal child but you're also a newfag.

>> No.55324966

>>55324908
This is a case where post IDs are necessary. You got me mixed up with a previous anon in the chain and are now just sneeding instead of making a point.

>> No.55325014

>>55308074
They are not talents.

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>>55324902
>Having a goal to be successful is bad
>Why? .................................IT JUST IS OK LOOK IVE SPENT 3 YEARS OF MY LIFE SEETHING AT KIARA IN EGGCORDS AND NOW I NEED A NEW THING TO GET MAD AT DONT TAKE THIS AWAY FROM ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.55325064

>>55324902
There's nothing wrong with aiming for subscriber goals. Many OGs did it. Your brain is just rotten by this board. There's a huge difference between total obsession with numbers that you're wrongly thinking of and simply wanting to get 1M in a year.

>> No.55325101

>>55324803
Hey man I liked the pledge too but your being weird

>> No.55325107

>>55324966
So are they the JP experience and same as other JP holos? You're going to have to restate your stances if you don't want to get mixed up.

>> No.55325108

>>55323573
>boomers associate this with Fred Flintstone
...isn't that what everyone associates it with primarily?

>> No.55325172

>>55325014
explain

>> No.55325176

>>55324902
No you see they're actually being based because it shows the sheer determination and hunger to be the next big thing in vtube in which the previous EN holos lack

>> No.55325208

>>55308074
They're too good for EN honestly with the kayfabe and the EU friendly streams.

>> No.55325244

>>55324885
I didn’t say it was

>> No.55325252

>>55324803
>>55324807
kek

>> No.55325354

>>55325107
They are the JP experience for the EN audience, who just so happen to attract JPs as well.
What is the JP experience? I'd say that one element is to act moe while playing a horror game. Hence why so many JP holos have clips of them screaming at jumpscares. This is just one example, it's not as common with EN from what I've seen and FuwaMoco went all-out with the spooks in their first week because that's something Japanese viewers like.
In general, consistency and moe personalities are all that really separates EN from JP. Getting hung up on the details just leads to pointless arguments.

>> No.55325380

>>55324917
These retards are falseflagging brownies and obviously know nothing about holojp

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>>55325354
>consistency and moe personalities are all that really separates EN from JP.
My wawa has both

>> No.55325594

>>55324803
You're not Japanese. Just because Japanese people value those things doesn't mean you have to. The EN audience is an entirely different culture with different values. There's going to be overlap because of the anime avatars and the idol shit in Hololive, but you have to be a retard to expect every EN tuber to match the standard Fuwumoco have set in regards to moe crap and kayfabe. Only one JP is like them (Luna) and she does it ironically. She treats her fans like adults and they know she's one of the oldest members. Everyone is on the same page just having fun and that's why she's so great. Fuwumoco literally want you to believe they're actual anime doggies. This anon is right >>55323707 they're actually menhera. This is beyond normal. Wouldn't surprise me if they literally eat out of dog bowls off stream and sniff each other's asses to help get into character before they start their streams.

>> No.55325657

>>55325594
Good bait, had me in the first half desu

>> No.55325802

>>55324902
You get a wish for every million subscribers. Some wishes are trivial but they can request a VN like Aqua did.

>> No.55325904

>>55325802
NO ITS NUMBER FAGGING AND CRINGE TO WANT SUCCESS YOU DON'T GET IT ITS BAD BECAUSE SOMEONE GREEN TEXTED ME ABOUT IT ONCE

>> No.55325975

>>55324902
Stfu Idols should have goals

>> No.55326046

>>55324908
>You said they are the jp experience, retard. You got mad when you got told that not all other JPs are like them.
nta, but people don’t generally mean that all JPs are identical to each other when mentioning that the twins have JP-like mannerisms to their conduct, with similar style voice types, kayfabe, and good Japanese language abilities. Or I guess a package of what they would call a more “JP experience”, as something very different than say watching Kronii for example. I think the idea is that both can have appeal, and that things are noticed to be different between them.

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>>55325594
>Only one JP is like them (Luna) and she does it ironically.
This schizo speaks as if he is aware of what he clearly is not.
How embarrassing.

>> No.55326180

Isn't this whole argument about speaking clearly or not just chammers 2.0?

What was the result of that anyways? Chammers can speak English clearly but she has to try to do it.

>> No.55326434

>>55326180
It started off with anons complaining about not being able to understand Fuwamoco. Then, instead of putting on headphones or actually paying attention, they began to shitpost relentlessly and claim the dogs are talking like googoo gaagaa babies, when they're just doing a very typical anime voice.

>> No.55326438

>>55326180
Not really
Fuwamoco are fluent where Haachama was extremely esl. They're not putting effort into finding the correct english words, they're augmenting their speech to match specific character concepts.

>> No.55326519

>>55326046
There's a massive difference in meaning depending on the article used.
If you're going to defend the use of "the jp experience" the implication is that JP hololive members all provide a certain kind of experience.
Now if you change the article to 'a' as in "a jp experience" the meaning changes completely and it no longer implies that there is some kind of general "jp experience" but that they're just one of many flavors that you don't really see with EN.

>> No.55326577

>>55326519
Oh, so you're just a pedantic grammarfag.

>> No.55326695

>>55326577
It's not pedantry when you literally defended the claim that they exemplify what JP holos are about even though so many of are nothing like the other.

>> No.55326848

I always thought it was weird that the ID branch even exists when literally the ONLY qualification needed to be EN is to know how to say at most 4 English words.

>> No.55326872

>>55326695
>Thread starts off saying Fuwamoco are not true EN talents
>Anons agree and say they're better at being like JPs
>Now you want it both ways and claim they aren't like JP at all
Either shitposting or arguing for the sake of it.

>> No.55327071

>>55308841
Retard, fuwamoco are also CIA trained and honeypotting idolchads

>> No.55327104

>>55326519
>the implication is that JP hololive members all provide a certain kind of experience.
No, the implication is that an overall pattern is being witnessed that generally fits a portion of Holo JP behavior, like JP-like mannerisms as one example, and seeing the contrast between Fuwamoco and Kronii to help illustrate differences.

>> No.55327112

>>55326872
>claim they aren't like JP at all
This never happened. The disagreement came when you defended someone's summary of your beliefs as the dogs providing "the jp experience" which implies that all JPs are more or less the same.

>> No.55327156
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55327156

>>55308074
>They are not *true* EN talents
Yeah, I know. They're great, aren't they?

>> No.55327958

>>55308074
Based

>> No.55328100

>>55308900
They’re hyper turbo mega weebs to the point they probably have no idea what a “Hanna Barbara” or “Fred Flinstone” even is

>> No.55328138

>>55328100
they didnt even know what Scooby Doo is.

>> No.55328288

>>55325108
Yes.
I didn't even know Vesper used it

>> No.55328455

>>55328100
>>55328138
They have probably lived in Japan more than in NA?

>> No.55328502

>>55328455
Or just super-weeb, anon

>> No.55328505

>>55328138
That call in was fucking awkward man. I blame it on Shiori.

>> No.55328696

What's with the ESL obsession with hating EN vtubers?

>> No.55328703

>>55328505
It wasnt so bad honestly.
>>55328455
I don't think so? And scooby doo isn't unknown in Japan. I think they are just very focused on their weeb stuff. They seem to have been pretty Japan focused from children just based off of what they've said.

>> No.55328847

>>55320814
>what the fuck was her speech last night? Vtubing is like climbing a mountain...
It's not like she doesn't dominate the language, it's just genuinely autistic and a nervous mess

>> No.55328986

>>55328696
They realize they chose the wrong oshi and their brains are short circuiting trying to justify the time they wasted by defending the whoredom of western vtubing

>> No.55329105

>>55328138
I'm pretty sure a good bit of JP could name off Scooby Doo, Nene in particular loves kid shows so even considering that its weird they've never heard of Scooby.

>> No.55329130

>>55315478
>cunny shiori
My dick would have to file a restraining order against me.

>> No.55329331

>>55313280
they are both wizards

>> No.55330726

>>55325802
>You get a wish for every million subscribers.
anyone knows that were gura's four wishes? I can see her wasting one taking some sabbatical month with full wage

>> No.55332842

>>55308074
too good to be EN

>> No.55334777

>>55308074
I saw some rrat that they applied multiple times before being admitted. Whether it's true or not it seems like Yagoo was saviorfagging again instead of hiring some actual talents.

>> No.55334804

BAU BAU

>> No.55334904

>>55332842
What do you mean good? Have you seen their stats in L4D2? They are not real gamer dogs.

>> No.55335500

>>55308074
Sure they are. They're just larping Engrish. I can't tell you how many times I've seen people in D&D insist they play a character that can't talk English/common and end up using the same vocal crutches. It gets old fast and is the least interesting way to represent a fictional language deficiency.

Also you have to be strong in at least English or Japanese and at least mid in English to even pass the first audition filter. And their Japanese is not great.

>> No.55335665

>>55308269
Maybe because FuwaMoco had better English than them.

>> No.55335784

>>55308841
Oh man this is some schizo shit.

>> No.55336317

>>55308820
The amount of normalfag seethe these two generate could power a city.

>> No.55336864

>>55308074
They are real EN beings

>> No.55337246

>>55309161
Oh jeez they better tone it down then, don't want to alienate the anon behind post 55309161.

>>55308841
They'll settle into more natural intonation as they stream more, but they'll still remain around the same pitch. They'd be stupid to drop the duo thing so quickly too when it's their big selling point.
>The only one who's maintained an extreme voice long term is Luna
Kiara is still doing her voice, despite how massive a debuff it is.

>> No.55337505

>>55308074
The further they are from "EN talents", the better.

>> No.55340221

>>55324884
>Luna and Miko are much worse baby talker than the twins.
They are the only ones out of 30+ tho. And Miko supposedly not on purpose.
Most JPs don't act/treat the audience like retards.

>> No.55340300

>>55308074
And that's a good thing

>> No.55340399

>>55308074
they are better than any of the EN "talents" we've gotten so far from Hololive

>> No.55340840

>>55334777
rrat? they said they did. they applied in english and japanese like 4-5 times they said, sometimes together sometimes separately. they felt that because their approach/pitch of being twins was unconventional, Cover simply overlooked their apps as they werent by-the-book for Cover's own submission rules.

it also means Omega (or whoever decides these) passed over the twins like 5 times before Jap saw their potential.

>> No.55341325

>>55340221
>Most JPs don't act/treat the audience like retards
I think you just dont get how retarded they behave and how they treat their fanbase as literal toddlers.

>> No.55341457

the bau baus are finally JP Holo style girls but in english, it's literally what I have wanted since 2020.

>> No.55341516

>>55340221
>Most JPs don't act/treat the audience like retards.
They do though. Every single one of them.

>> No.55341668

>>55308074
And that's a good thing.

>> No.55341859
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55341859

>>55320814
the funny thing is actually they aren't ESL. they like having a cute accent because.. they know it's cute.

they likely remember how everyone absolutely melted whenever Karen from Kiniro Mosaic talked because it was adorable engrish and they modeled themselves after that. mococo in fact, sounds actually very very close to Nao Toyama (karen's voice). I'm not 100% on that's why they talk like that but it's got to at least be a factor, they know how much people love the Miko Elite English and Chammers english etc and so they can model it effectively since they also speak Japanese so understand exactly how/why they have that accent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puRTBZIcwFQ

>> No.55342810

>>55341859
What I like about this rrat is that FuwaMoco specifically list KinMoza as one of their favorite shows for the CR interview.
Like they literally say "yeah we love this fucking show". So of course they are familiar with Karen and must love her too.

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