/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

her design is so fucking sex bros

>>55300789
I know you made this thread, Shiori

>Be genuinely autistic
>Unable to read room
>Tries to banter, falls flat sometimes
>Still has fun
>Emphasizes love for her genmates all the same
At least Nerissa can reciprocate the banter at times.

>>55300789
Wasn't she a bit too mean in the collab?
>Big Tiddy Menhera Goth GF
She's GFE not CGDCT newfags.

>>55301605
Bruh...
Cute Goth Do Cute Thing
baka

Cringy Girls Doing Cringy Things

>>55301075
>If I call it autism other anons might think it’s cute instead of intentional

Not mean enough to those betas

>>55300789
I know you posted this Shiori, I'm going to join Holostars and we WILL have sex and at least 17 kids.

>>55301075
>going off on my own! good luck! do whatever!

>>55300789
>Wasn't she a bit too mean in the collab?
she wasnt mean enough

>>55300789
She’s a cunt

I'm pretty sure they have built a dynamic while they were training which we're all still not used to yet. It has been that way since Myth, like Kiara's initial brashness or Kronii's disdain and apathy.
We all know they'll mesh together the moment they play minecraft with each other.

>>55300789
flop-iori...

>>55300789
She's blunt, and she sounds a little suspicious when she's actually saying nice things but I'm still willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. I think she'll get better and it's way too early to call her a cunt but red flags are certainly there. She's entertaining and makes me diamonds though, so EN3 is still 5/5 for me.

>>55304276
She's my type.

>>55302258
NTA, but Shiori's behaviour isn't consistent with someone normal who is simply a cunt, she come across as genuinely autistic, but still trying to do her best.

NO MORE FUWAMOCO LEECHING

>>55303466
She's so dorky and cute! Doesn't know how to interact with people!

I would be mad too at dogs overpowering everyone in the collab

>>55300789
Can you give examples because I can't think of any

>>55305050
I guess we’ll know when we see her interact with other holomems more.

>>55300789
I'm no fan of hers, I think she belongs in vshojo or niji. But I don't recall her being mean in the collab.

>>55305757
she's an immigrant who did part of her childhood somewhere poor in asia. She's talked about this on stream. So, it's likely she moved to the US and had serious issues integrating. Outcast at school etc. Girls who think they are goth all have issues and are masking it by being so edgy. If they're weird it's OK if normal people don't like them. So, she went online to find friends. And that's where she found the vtubing people.

She's a mean-spirited cunt, always has been. I still don't know how she got hired, give any literal who 3 view that model and they'd have her numbers. Her being such a bitch is going to stagnate her growth once the new toy period is over. She's speedrunning the Watson arc already.

>>55305757
Explain it to me like I can understand. I'm a grad student with relevant background.

is she this board's new orange woman?

>>55300789
The other girls don't mind. And it makes for some funny moments.

>>55306978
No. Purple women can't be bad.

Always has been. She has so many angry outbursts or directly mocking her chat before. Idk hopefully the management will tardwrangle her and she will not waste this opportunity like before.

The collab was really boring. It made watch some other vtuber VODs instead.

>>55306978
>is she this board's new orange woman?
Actually yes. The Kiara hate threads on /vt/ were astroturf and the Shiori "love" threads are astroturf too. They're similarly fake as fuck.

>>55300789
Shut the fuck up

Bump for free advertisement

>captcha: NTR00

hmm

>>55307242
shiori also fake as fuck! hmm

To be fair, she just doesn’t know how to interact with others. She cannot pick up the vibe, or know what flows with a conversation, and what doesn’t. Then she tries to play a character a bit, and that also doesn’t help her fit. I don’t think she even knows what she wants to be.

When was she mean OP

>>55307527
This is fine, all I want her to do is spend every stream as a zatsu or autism enhancing game sperging on non-stop tangents. Maybe collab with another mega sperg like mumei so we can watch the spaghetti hit the floor.

>>55300789
This bitch is always rude to my dogwives! I can get over her shitty voice unfitting for the model, but I will anti her as long as she keeps being disrespectful to them.

>>55307752
>Maybe collab with another mega sperg
Just not Mori. This board would never recover.

>>55307955
She is poking harmless fun in her autistic way, your dogwives are literally braindead anon, very cute, but braindead

>>55308046
UN UN

>>55307166
>hopefully the management will tardwrangle her
They can’t, because she’s not able to pickup on what’s wrong. Maybe she’s actually autistic? I think it’s better for a streamer to fake autism than actually be it, because the fake ones still have the understanding or emotional IQ needed for communication/VTubing.

The bar of being too mean is making a Holomem genuinely blood furious because you shot her in the head while she pleads to the void for you not to leading up to it. Was anyone even slightly mad? No.

>>55307527
>To be fair, she just doesn’t know how to interact with others.
She knows how to interact with people, she was always in huge male collabs as the sole female.
The problem is, her humor and the people she interacts with daily behind the scenes are all very 4chan-esque. She does not fit in with hololive at all, she sticks out like a sore thumb. The other girls are what you come to expect from streamers, they fit in seamlessly.

Shiori is never going to vibe with them, they've grown up in completely different online environments.
People keep calling her autistic, she isn't autistic, she's loud and crass in collabs with like 10 men and her as the sole female, so unless you consider everyone on this site to be autistic too then she isn't autistic, because that is just typical run of the mill channer behavior.

>>55308067
>Maybe she’s actually autistic?

Nigger have you watched her streams? It's fucking crippling. If it's an act it's by far the best one ever aired. Hence the collab warning because you can see she doesn't want to be pushed into collabs thay can't handle her absolute sperg energy. I love her btw it's so endearing.

>>55308202
You forgot your pippa image BVTM brownoid

>>55308202
so basically she's a 4channer who's stopping herself from the constant need to just shout nigger nigger nigger and has a hard time trying her best to talk like a normal person

>>55308307
This cope is getting boring. We've got an entire thread dedicated to rating the 4 Advent members with well over 100 entrants and Shiori is voted dead last.
I'm sure they're all the twitterfag you fear too.
>>55308341
Precisely. I wouldn't fit in with the hololive crew either for example. If you dedicate the majority of your online time here, you become molded by this place. It's why tourists are so easy to spot, they stick out.
She's not gonna randomly change. She can try mask it, but that's not gonna be something you can maintain easily and she'll probably appear even more fake by trying to.

>>55300789
>Stayed behind with Bijou when she got hit by the EN curse
>Mean

>>55308209
>can't handle her absolute sperg energy.
For group communication, it’s just an inability to read the room, and understand the proper flow of conversation. She will say something that the viewers don’t even like, but she would never know, unless they told her.

>>55308463
>We've got an entire thread dedicated to rating the 4 Advent members with well over 100 entrants and Shiori is voted dead last.

Nice, got all your filthy brown apes botting that huh?

>>55308202
Speaking from experience, it only takes a couple of months to permanently shift the way you carry yourself even after crippling long term experiences like military service. It depends on how stubborn she is about it.

I won't judge, instead I will simply state the facts.

Anons are making a lot of excuses for someone they barely know that was a 2view not long ago. Anons don't make these same excuses for everyone without the blue dorito.

I won't judge why anons are doing it but they are doing it.

>>55308599
It's becuase she gets alot of hate and anons only like things that arnt popular. They are very quirky like that.

>>55308599
>Someone just gets done explaining how she's too much like 4chan
Could it be the reason she's voted dead last is because we already have an entire board full of Shiori's in the Anons so it's kind of boring?

she wasn’t mean enough, i want her to bait nerissa into a full on flame war between them mid-collab

About 90% of female vtubers are mildly autistic.

Shiori is an exception. She's SEVERELY autistic.

>>55308599
Ironically enough, the people who are making excuses for her know the least about her.

>>55308699
Holy

Fucking

ESL

>>55308202
She knows how to interact with people she knows. That's the biggest difference, and will be rectified eventually.

>>55308582
lol, humblebragging like this is pathetic. Don't embarrass yourself.

>>55308599
For all the accusations that this or that group is antiing Shiori, and I'm sure that some do (jealous 2views, twitter shitters, nijis, etc.) there are some very valid critiques, but holodrones discard everything by beinging up bvtm or calling you SEA or whatever. Like how cucked do you have to be to defend someone THAT MUCH, just because they are now a part of hololive?

>>55306514
Not deleted by jannies therefore not true

>>55308789
Just wait and see for a couple of months at least. There's no point in doomsaying before anything of note has happened.

>>55308789
Not every fanbase is built the same, there's always one full of the worst scum imaginable that defend their favorite whore to the end.
Shiori's fanbase drew that straw this time around.

>>55308859
Getting frustrated?

>>55308789
Many and varied holos have dropped their past shit after getting the golden ticket, including many current favourites. Now go back to your pagpag dinner.

>>55308699
Nobody know what you're saying. Repost it in English.

>>55300789
It's my bad that Shiorin (my gf) is mean to Nerissa (my wife).
Well, it's unavoidable.

>>55308859
You should think of more creative posts to reply to yourself with because no one is going to interact with these garbage screencaps

>>55308785
I'm not a mutt, military service is compulsory and low prestige here. I didn't consider that not everyone has the same context. The point I'm making is thousands of men are being put in this prison-like idiotic environment that is like an isolated college fraternity on steroids for a year and the vast majority become normal people relatively quickly after they come back. Environment matters.

>>55308699
Certified BVTM classic post, obviously viscous bait for twitter material yet also ESL to the point on unintelligibility.

Shiori is not going to mesh well with the rest of hololive.

>>55308209
>her autism is fucking crippling.
That’s a problem then. What is she says stuff that she doesn’t even realize the people will be upset by? Like how she likes… well the black joke, for example. I’m saying it’s probably why she’s making these goof ups.

You're supposed to make these threads immediately after the stream so you can strike while the fire is hot.

Sheesh, amateurs..

I think Shiori bots her numbers. There is no other explanation.

Go through any Shiori thread and you'll see a stark difference between the two opposing posters.
The ones that don't like nasty cunts like her are calm, have reasonable reasons for disliking her and come across as much more logical and intelligent.
Then you look at her cucked white knights who reply to every post screaming a combination of ESL, samefag, bvtm boogieman, some other snarky comment or another form of projection, because they have no argument. They argue like emotional leftist trannies do, there's no logic to their words, just raw estrogen and emotional outbursts.
Just go back through this thread and compare posts even.

Go to the archives and type in bvtm, see for yourself how mindbroken these fags are by some random ass phase shill.

>>55309155
Can you jungle monkeys make a single post that can be understood by regular English speakers please? How do you even get content for your shitter channel with this level of incompetence?

>>55306978
Black is the new orange

>>55309221
People think that because her waiting room numbers were lower than the others, before the stream. But who knows

am I the only one who disliked both her and nerissa before the collab but their interactions during it caused me to like both now?

>>55309230
You know, you might be right if a substantial portion of the bait threads and anti posts weren't written in garbled seafaggot speak with broken links and obvious self replies

>>55309230
>ai art gura false flagger
yep, checks out

>>55309343
>and obvious self replies
See it's hard for me to believe you when you say this because every single time I've been called a samefag it's been wrong.
Someone is vastly overestimating their ability to pick out samefagging.

>>55309230
Please don't use Gura AIslop to false flag, their community is in shambles enough as it is

>>55308202
The irony of calling a chuuba loud and crass in collabe while posting a picture of Subaru. I don't know which stream it was but she's fucking repulsive in a collab with Botan and Korone some while ago.

>>55309253
What’s the issue anon? To simplify it, I was saying if her autism really is that crippling, it would then lead to her ultimately saying or doing things that will get her into trouble, and she wouldn’t even know as to the reason why. Do you understand?

>>55309423
Chumbuds aren't in shambles at all, the 3 days she streamed were the 3 days the Holobox got over 60k viewers.
Gura is doing perfectly fine.

>>55309445
Nice, did you manage to find someone who can type coherent English? Congrats!

I missed the collab anyone have timestamps of her being mean otherwise I don’t believe anyone

>>55309445
Again, can one of you make your case for why she has autism (clinically) in a way that I can understand? I am a grad student with relevant background.

Otherwise maybe stop the bullshit.

>>55309564
It's literally just average gamer banter, seething 2views, BVTM and nijishitters are seething. Remember sage goes in all fields.

She's still trying too hard with her persona but that's pretty normal.

>>55309230
Holy selection bias batman

>>55309612
>make your case for why she has autism (clinically)
Ask her fans, as I was getting that piece of information from them, and simply taking it seriously. I was also thinking it may better explain things, if true. I assume you don’t believe it is true?

>>55309925
She got past intense training, attends meetings, turns up to her streams, is able to talk just fine, responds to chat, makes lame jokes, laughs at lame jokes, uses innuendo, uses metaphors, makes many allusions, is playing the role of a character, doesn't take things literally, is able to actually talk (did I say that yet?), focuses on the subject, goes with the conversational flow, responds to what chat wants to hear; do I need to go on?

And what is so autistic about her? That she acts inconsiderate and tends to ramble and talks over people? Even so you can't diagnose her over the internet based on a performance. Hate to break it to everyone but there are a lot more things that can explain her behavior than actual legitimate autism, nor even high functioning autism.

>>55309550
It was a lazy post with a typo. I didn’t think it mattered.

It's just banter, and I imagine the other girls bantered back a lot more behind the scenes. Shiori is just having trouble adjusting to their on-stream personas while attempting to fit her own character.
Nerissa is definitely restraining herself somewhat even despite the cursing. She knows what the Hololive audience expects and seemed to be pretty concerned with whether or not she was likeable. Shiori targeting Nerissa specifically points to them bantering a lot off stream.
FWMC have let slip a few times that they can bantz, but their impenetrable kayfabe on stream prevents them from doing so. This also makes it harder to play off them in general, which is something all of the other girls are going to have to get accustomed to.

I have a feeling this chick suffers from a superior complex and will end up alienating her gen mates down the long run because her ego will get too big due to fame.

Honestly, having one bad apple isn't all that bad. The other girls from advent are completely immune from criticisms because everyone is laserfocused on Shiori. She's not completely useless, in a sense.

>>55310037
>attends meetings, turns up to her streams, is able to talk just fine, responds to chat…
Autism wouldn’t necessarily mean an inability to turn up and talk. I’m thinking as to a spectrum here, and suggesting that it may explain some of what has already happened. As for the anon saying it was crippling, I think he just gets off on that notion.
>makes lame jokes, laughs at lame jokes
I don’t see an issue here. Is it lame from a lack of emotional IQ?
>is playing the role of a character
It doesn’t come off right to me.
>goes with the conversational flow
Clearly not well, anon. Having said all this, I don’t actually know if she has autism or not. I’m just being told that she does by her fans, and then wondering what role it may play in her behavior. I mean people are saying she’s being mean, so I was saying maybe she doesn’t know that.

>>55310273
So true anonymous. Also, it's "superiority complex".

>>55310491
She already treats the rest of them like shit but okay coomer blind-chaama. Do what you think is best for ya.

>>55310478
You're thinking of fantasy autism. The girl display no real legitimate signs of diagnosable autism spectrum disorder. Do you want to continue the argument?

>>55308599
>>55308789
Holoboard, seethe, nijidrone

>>55310669
You didn’t really address my points
>The girl display no real legitimate signs of diagnosable autism spectrum disorder
Are you making an appeal to your authority on the subject? Here while anonymous? Also while not addressing my points BTW.

>>55310899
Facts don't seethe. Reactions to facts speak for themselves.

>>55310915
You think she does not communicate well in terms of she acts like a cunt. That is not the same as in terms of not communicating well as in clinical autism spectrum disorder. She goes along with things, instigates, and reciprocates, not pointing out minor inconsistencies or getting upset at or misunderstanding non-literal things. She would not meet the level you need for a diagnosis using the DSM-5 by any indication of her behavior so far. Of course we can't even begin to assess things like non-verbal communication and physical repetitive behaviors. Basically you're trying to force someone who you think is a cunt into a diagnosis of autism, not for their own benefit but so you can have your menhera head canon.

There is absolutely no reason to think she has autism. Certainly not over any number of other disorders including bipolar disorder. Please stop talking.

Real talk but her behavior is also consistent with sleep deprivation, if only she mentioned insomnia during her debut. Alas, true fans.

>>55310037
This.
Everything can be considered autism today. Nobody is healthy, everybody has a syndrome or a disorder apparently.
Act like a cunt with people? Oh no, you're not a cunt, you're just autistic.
Shy around people? Autism.
Loud around people? Autism
Self centered? Autism

Autism has lost all meaning. Shiori is absolutely not autistic, unless you're really using the modern day interpretation of autism which can be construed as 'any even remotely negative trait you have'.

This girl is basically an Enna that can't sing.

>>55311123
>You think she does not communicate well in terms of she acts like a cunt
No, rather her communication skills are lacking, and that may reflect on how she is being perceived.
>She would not meet the level you need for a diagnosis
I would assume a diagnosis that comes from watching a VTuber over the internet, would not be adequate.
>Basically you're trying to force someone who you think is a cunt into a diagnosis of autism
If you read my post, I said that I don’t actually know if she has autism or not. I’m just being told that she does by her fans, and then wondering what role it could play if true. I’m completely willing to assume that she doesn’t. It doesn’t actually make a difference to me, as I’m only curious.

>>55310037
>>55311123
She's playing a role, some high functioning Autistic types are horrible about being themselves but they're actually good at pretending for awhile until the mask slips and the autism leaks out.

It's like American Psycho but instead of there being nothing behind the mask there's 500 pages of insect facts and a stupid verbal tic.

>>55311601
Your interpretation of things like lack of communication skills is not the same as what is meant with the diagnosis. You are incorrect and trying to force it to fit. She communicates perfectly find and shows no significant signs of deficits in the ways that are required.

>>55311654
You are fantasizing.

>>55311727
>trying to force a fit
No, rather I think you are just too emotionally attached to the topic, and assuming things that are not actually there.

>>55311808
>and assuming things that are not actually there.
Dude that's literally what you're doing lol

>>55311808
It doesn't matter what you think. I really seriously know what I'm talking about, and you're just making things up to suit you.

>>55311773
It's not necessarily true that's what she's doing, but it's not something that never happens. I've seen it.

Autistic people that can put on the look of being perfectly normal, and then something sets them off and then it's pure 100% undulated autism and it's like you're dealing with a completely different person.

>billy Nerissa
>She gets horny

Do we really need seven fucking threads on Shiori along with another 4 on Advent in general, at all times?? Yes, it seemed like she was too mean and I don't really care. It's an act and they'll talk about it behind the scenes if it becomes a real issue.

>>55312094
Oh that's gay

>>55309230
Pretty much this. It doesn't matter if you provide logical, reasonable and intelligent arguments to explain your dislike of her. All you'll get in return is a bunch of screeching, no arguments and nonsensical accusations.

>>55312014
That's your own anecdotal layman observation. Apply what you just said to anyone, then it's also true anyone could be acting. Anyone in the thread and anyone in Advent. We're talking about whether being rude and going on tangents rises to the level of being autistic. No, it does not. There are myriad other possible reasons and most of them aren't clinical. So lets not try and fantasize that she's cleverly disguising it except for a few quirky traits, that would be no better than Tik Tok mental disorders.

I don't think she was mean. Most friend circles give each other shit constantly.

>Be Shiori
>Stream for years before joining hololive
>Don't have autism
>Join hololive
>Now suddenly have autism

Yes, this makes perfect sense.

>>55312240
Yes, and it's also their own problem. As much as anons like to complain about people on the internet getting mad on someone else's behalf. Isn't that what the thread is doing?

If advent members don't think it's a problem then it isn't.

>>55312210
I'd like to see a logical, reasonable and intelligent arguments to explain your dislike of her if you don't mind.

>>55311989
>I really seriously know what I'm talking about
If you still don’t realize why that’s an empty statement to post here, then I truly can’t help you. Again though, I’m just as willing to consider that she doesn’t have autism as I am to consider that she does. I’m not as emotionally invested in the topic as you are.

>>55300789
She's asserting her dominance as the daisenpai of EN vtubing

>>55312261
That's what unironically ntr does to people

>>55312411
NTR enjoyers are less than human.

>>55312232
it's called camoflaging. it's a thing.

>>55312261
Nah her old stuff was also intensively autistic, begone sister.

>>55312523
Based

>>55312523
When are you removing Marine (most popular JP) from hololive then schizo faggot?

>>55312411
Nta, but if they actually did perceive her as being mean, that would itself reasonably explain a dislike they have for her.

I genuinely believe this thread is full of highly functioning autistics who can't recognize one of their own.
Even her banter is poorly times at most times, bit I think Nerissa knows how to play into it, flirting back when teased. Because Shiori is autistic, she's funny only when she's not trying to be.
But of course retards here will be mad on everyone else's behalf because they think she was trying to insult them all instead of just trying to provide some actual color to their collab.

>>55312442
>If you still don’t realize why that’s an empty statement to post here, then I truly can’t help you.
That's incorrect. Because it has meaning at least to me. I can know whether I'm lying or not, and I am saying I'm not. So to me what you are saying is completely incorrect and I know for certain. Others can look things up themselves, and with caution not to misinterpret a clinical diagnostic text, make up their own conclusion.

Now you're talking about my emotional state which you don't know. If you were talking about yourself then only you could know that, but you're talking about me and you really can't know that. As I understand it, I am not emotionally invested. I am laid out why she does not meet the criteria in a way you can understand, but instead you refuse to listen. The problem is essentially that you cannot believe that anyone has knowledge, which means you don't trust anything anyone says. So why are you posting at all? Talk to yourself or something.

>>55300789
ban·ter
noun
the playful and friendly exchange of teasing remarks.
"there was much singing and good-natured banter"

>>55312771
Menhera ESL wall of text I kneel

>>55309230
except bvtm jumped right on the hate bandwagon

>>55312523
What does that have to do with the collab? Do tell, Anon.

>>55312769
She has been seething at them all week.

>>55312692
And it's called bullshitting and it's also a thing. Everything conveniently fits the narrative when you want it to.

>>55312745
I don't like Marine.
You seem to have mistaken me for some left-leaning faggot, I don't want Marine or Shiori canceled, I just said I don't like them, which for some reason you can't handle.

>>55312823
Good, it's funnier that way. I dislike groups like early myth who were afraid to tease each other.

>>55312813
It's two small paragraphs with a handful of sentences. Stop crying ESL if you want to be taken seriously by native speakers.

>>55312828
i just arrived and thought i'd give the name of the autistic trait. autism has been expanded quite a bit as far as what counts, so i have clue really. she's fucking awkward though.

it's called better you sensitive ass fags

>>55312901
Why don't you try typing coherent sentences if you don't want to be called out as the ESL brown jungle dweller you are?

>>55312970
>it's called better you sensitive ass fags
What did he mean by this?

>>55312874
>tease
That's not what she did. She didn't even bother trying to communicate with them.
Moco-chan going excuse me over her katana etc. were joking setups but she just did her own thing. She just randomly spergs out insults whenever she is confronted with fuwamoco's views on idols and vtubers.

>>55312932
There is a reason why the saying for Autism now is "If you've seen one autistic person you've seen one autistic person"

>>55313034
Take an english lesson chimp sea nigger

>>55312984
You're calling this >>55312771 an incoherent post and the poster an ESL?
What part of that post is giving you issues? I'm curious because it sounds like you're the ESL if you can't parse what is being written here.
It's perfectly legible to me.

>inb4 you accuse me of being him to cope

>>55312771
>I can know whether I'm lying or not, and I am saying I'm not.
It’s not a meaningful statement to make in a debate, and an anonymous one at that.
>So to me what you are saying is completely incorrect and I know for certain.
It doesn’t matter what you think you know, it’s what you can or cannot convince others of. This is a two-way conversation.
>Now you're talking about my emotional state which you don't know.
Like you don’t know Shiori’s emotional state? Oh right, you know, because you know yourself to be correct.

>>55312853
No one cares who you like or don't. I just wish people would stop shitting up the catalog with useless threads that aren't going to change anyone's minds.

>>55300789
the enna of holoEN but without the singing skill

>>55313247
Any native English speaker who reads that garbage will understand your third world mannerisms and trash sentance structure. I genuinely do feel bad that you grew up in mud/stick huts eating garbage and pagpag but that's no excuse to seethe and bait white people over virtual anime girls. Begone.

>>55313412
If you didn't care you and your ilk wouldn't cry your eyes out to me whenever I post.
This isn't your hugbox safespace. Deal with it.

>>55313034
Tbf she said some crazy things at Rissa too. I think she's just like that, and the girls are used to it. But it could be a problem if she has to collab with someone who isn't used to it. I can imagine Fauna getting super passive aggressive with her.

>>55313445
Is she going to make Flayon her Kyo?

>>55313491
Not an argument. Your pagpag is getting cold.

>>55313491
>I just don't like them is all
>spams catalog with endless ESL bait threads

Man feels good to be chilling in my quality constructed white man's house with air conditioning while you seethe from your bunk bed in a ten person tin shack

>>55313627
what the fuck mental illness do you have? do you hear yourself?

>>55313576
>>55313627
Why are Shioricucks so obsessed with SEAnigs?
Why are her fans collective IQ so abysmally low, bros?

>>55313034
>She just randomly spergs out insults whenever she is confronted with fuwamoco's views on idols and vtubers
When did this happen, again?

>>55313755
>you two are actual dogs

>>55313458
could be a stupid native. what the fuck was that.

>>55313755
It was real in his mind.

>>55313494
JP. I want JP collab.

>>55313553
i hope not but it would be pretty funny if it happened

>>55313724
>>55313745
Why don't you stop spamming low quality bait during Jakarta prime hours you disgusting shitskins? Note we have no problems with this trash bait when you fuckera go to sleep for your sweat shop shifts tomorrow.

>>55313627
Lol, that was actually funny.

>>55313837
I'm not sea just genuinely shocked at how pathetic you are.

>>55313627
they don't have beds. they sleep on cardboard or at best some foam on the floor.

>>55313837
No idea where that is, I'm not obsessed with third world shitholes like you are.

Weakness disgusts me

I am COLLECTING (you)s from feral third world monkeys, it shouldn't be this easy

>>55313950
Shiori disgusts me. As do her troglodyte simp fans who enjoy being cucks.

>>55300789
this is nina kosaka all over again... you cant be offended for another v tuber because it might be role play. Let the v tuber call her friend out, if its real and too far, then you can support that. Often times, they dont want fans to participate because its personal. You will just dog pile and ignore the apology. Remember the Kiara vs Moona skit? Fans killed it, they disengaged and it could have been funny if it wasnt nipped in the bud.

>>55314049
>you cant be offended for another v tuber
Of course you can.

>>55314034
ogey

>>55314034
What are you going to do about it anon

>Did you know that Shiori threw MAD SHADE at her genmates? I can't believe how much of a BITCH she is, you know?
>Oh my god bestie, so true!

>>55314257
>Did you know that Shiori threw MAD SHADE at her genmates? I can't believe how much of a BITCH she is, you know?
>Oh my god bestie, so true!
>Guys, guys, did you think perhaps she might actually has autism?
>FUCK OFF!

ANOTHER catalog thread where third worlders desperately look for new angles to attack Advent?

>>55314226
Post about it.
Such a minor thing on my part causes this much of a meltdown from the mentally unstable who thinks she's their gf, or even acknowledges their existence.
It's sheer delight to see that for all my flaws, I'm not that far gone that I'd act this pathetic over some NTR loving whore who doesn't even know me.

>>55314423
Calling Shiori out is not attacking Advent. The rest of the girls are highly based. Shiori just so happens to be an unlikeable putrid whore.

>>55300789
I mean, compared to Ame taking every possible opportunity to dog on Gura over worn-to-the-nub jokes like being flat or dumb.....Shiori seems to actually know how to pace jokes, even if they're shitty ones

>>55314474
See you tomorrow.

>>55314722
Same time? It's a date.

>>55314474
What do you mean by this?

>>55300789
It's her ``thing''

>>55301605
>>Big Tiddy Menhera Goth GF
That is not what she is. She's a nerdy tumblr fujo

>>55314474
>holo vs holo
Nice try, tribalfag.

>>55314474
This is a highly ironic post

>>55314257
Sad but true. Half the board is gossiping women and dramafags who obsess over streamers, which they don't even watch, not behaving in a way they approve of (even though the streams in question have no issue with it).

>>55300789
She'll get corrected by my dick tonight don't worry. vswag

>>55314474
Most self-aware schizo post.

>>55314900
I used to be in the NijiEN general over a year ago and they acted just like you, you know.
Couldn't say I disliked a certain girl without the entire general having a meltdown saying I was a holofag infiltrating their general.
Same old 'nooooooo unity unity unity you can't dislike anyone you have to be nice to EVERYONE!!!' bollocks.
You fags are far too loyal to big corporations. I couldn't give a fuck about Cover, Anycolor, Vshitshow, Phase, Idol or any of them.

I just wander around from place to place, observing the insanity and NPC-like mindset people have these days.

>>55314049
>Fans killed it
based

Board means no shit she's great

>>55315177
Have you ever entertained the thought that people saying
>'nooooooo unity unity unity you can't dislike anyone you have to be nice to EVERYONE!!!'
might not be entirely serious, considering the website you're on? Acting smug and superior as if you're thoughtful while everyone else is just a stupid NPC can leave you egocentric and ignorant.

I find it hilarious how one chick none of you will get to fuck manage to absolutely demolish this board within a week. Just look at all faggots digging on her past for shit posts all the schizo guessing whether she's autistic or not. Some of you need a different a hobby other than watching vtubbers this is not healthy.

>>55315521
Shiori is fine so far but I still want you rubbernecking debut tourists to go back where you came from

>>55315177
>pretty much admitting you're a retarded tourist who spends all his time shitposting on /veetee/ instead of watching streams
>leddit spacing
>that chuuni underaged last sentence
kek yeah of course these are the retards making dogshit catalog bait threads

>>55315646
Sure schizo you can have the shit thread for yourself so you can indulge into your cuck and BBC fetishes. Since this is the type of shit that's occupying your mind rent free.

>>55302258
i've got flawless autism radar as a result of being autistic and therefore spending most of my formative years being herded into insultingly dumbed-down classes and special autism camps and other dehumanizing shit where everyone around me also had autism. i can tell you that shiori is absolutely on the spectrum

>>55315753
>Shiori is fine so far
Not even reading what I said. Both sides of this are retarded. And I am seeing WAY too many posts with the
>She won't fuck you bro
twitter tourist alarm bells.

>>55315504
Of course, but it's evident they do take it seriously. It's remarkably easy to gauge whether somebody is upset from their posts when you've been here as long as I have. I can practically see the emotional anguish that accompanies their words as they lash out at me for speaking sense.
>>55315745
Reddit spacing is two spaces, newfag-chama.
Those are just spaces to make reading easier to parse. Very basic stuff.
>that chuuni underaged last sentence
lel, I've been on 4chan for longer than most people on this site have even been alive.

>>55315867
But am I wrong about saying she won't fuck you you know is true. She won't fuck me either. I apologize for misreading you anon.

All of this astroturfing from bvtm and it still doesn't compare to early fauna mumei days.
In the next 3 months anons will treat shiori like the next mumei fauna when she does literal harmless content while continuing to pile on the gfe.

>>55315521
i actually think shiori might be the holo i would theoretically have the best chances with, aside from maybe marine

>>55315916
You are not wrong but not even one percent of the schizos actually think their oshi is going to fuck them. That specific phrase is pretty much always used by retards on twitter when they are dunking on the evil parasocials and belies a misunderstanding of the hobby.

>>55316093
Fair enough.

>>55314257
>>55314397
You forgot the part where girl 1&2 go "fuck OFF BECKY your boyfriend cheated on you I don't wanna hear SHIT from you"

>>55315907
Your entire post is unironically just
>ME ME ME
no one cares about you faggot and how long you've been in this shithole. Seething at autistic anime girls is not a personality.

>>55308688
but shiori is popular pebblephile

>>55316010
Absolutely. Advent is by far the least controversial gen in HoloEN and it's not even close. Dramatroons are absolutely fucking desperate to force a yab and they are trying literally every angle.

>>55316258
>Waaah noone cares!
>Ctrl + F (You) - 1/73
>And it's like this every single time.
Yes yes, nobody cares, they just baww at me all teary eyed while tearing their hair out because I said their favorite anime girl is shit.
How deplorable of me!

Shiori is shit bro. I'm sorry to tell you this, but it's true. Stay positive though, in a few days she opens memberships and you can pour your wallet and your life to her so she'll read your donation message, that'll be sure to cheer you up after a tough day on 4chan dealing with big nasty trolls like me lmao

>>55313816
Can Shiori speak nihongo?

>>55316485
Damn man 73 (You)s??? How much are they worth in your third world currency?

Ironically enough, Shiorifags, I would have a better chance at getting with your whore oshi than you would.
>*hits pipe*
Think about it logically.
You think an NTR stacy like Shiori will prefer you, a bunch of spineless yesmen simp NPCs who have no self respect over a supreme poster such as myself?

If you act like cucks and you behave like cucks you'll be treated like cucks.
>>55316788
+10 dopamine gets deposited into my brain for every (You).
I'm literally cooming without fapping just by entering threads. It's masturbation for savvy thinking man.

>>55316910
>for savvy thinking man.
I would suggest thinking a little harder.

>>55316985
I was playing around with typing 'for the savvy thinking man' and 'for savvy thinking men' but I got too excited and posted an amalgamation of both without proof reading.

>>55317093
Very well, I'll allow it this time.

>>55315800
LMAO. This sounds fucking hilarious.
I am sorry, anon.

>>55302258
I have family members who are aspies, she is 110% autistic.

>>55317176
eh, it's fine. i was just autistic enough to not realize how dehumanizing it was, so i wasn't traumatized or anything, and i did get to take normal classes and interact with non-autistic people too

>>55315800
>>55317544
I mean yeah that's a double edged sword. A lot of Anons watch Vtubers because compared to your average Twitch ethot they are actually relatable autistic weirdos who grew on the internet and share a similar sense of humor. At the same time don't act surprised when they start sperging out and act awkward in group collabs.

>>55318207
There are different flavors of autism, many vtubers in hololive are neurotic but it's pretty endearing since they are fundamentally too concerned with how not to be annoying. shiori has the type of autism that grates on other people and leads to dislike and avoidance. Because I grew up around autistic people I know often it is a misunderstanding, though some autists are genuine asshole. It's a weird personality for an entertainer to have, could lead to interesting interactions but until she finds another weirdo who plays off it without straining their patience it's too cringe to watch.

>>55300789
i think your perception of the world needs some help.
no, a lot of help

>>55318722
It's interesting that she made it through auditions with that kind of personality though. Makes me think it's an act and she's really nice when she's not streaming?

Maybe it's also just a mismatch with personalities in Advent. She might get along great with Ame for instance.

People have been saying that her autism is hard filter that grates on other people, ultimately leading to dislike and avoidance and whatnot but can anyone explain how she's neck and neck with Neriisa >>55309221 in their collab?

>>55300789
>Wasn't she a bit too mean in the collab?
I know it may seem mean to rub FuwaMocos' face in their own shit, but it's the most effective way to stop them from crapping on the carpet.

I'm glad people are now memoryholing debut Mumei and Shiori is the current poster child of autism

>>55319261
Bau Bau

>>55316010
What is this revisionism. I don't remember either of them being bombarded with nigger dick obsession and ntr baitposts.

>>55306294
We'll see when she's forced to show respect for her senpai. Something tells me that since she's an OG she'll refuse to bow her head.

I still don't understand how she's an autist. She doesn't come across as an autist to me. I feel like there are those who label everyone an autist no matter what they say or do.

>>55300789
Did you mean fun?

>>55300789
she's the only one throwing jokes after jokes to actually entertain the viewers.
all others are just making noises and are too busy with the game itself

>>55316335
It's jealousy, plain and simple. The dramafags who only came to /vt/ initially to make schizoposts and beg for weekly yabs are now upset there's a fun, new group of vtubers to follow that aren't awkward or literal whores.

Why the fuck did she make an MVP poll? What's her endgame?

have you retards never watched an all-girls slapstick comedy before? why are you all so fucking soft?
>HUU HUU SHE WAS A WIDDLE TOO MEAN
she's bringing banter into the table and her genmates are too fucking soft to reciprocate. they should grow a spine and either tell her to knock it off or play along with her.

>>55300789
If she really wants to lean into mean-girl/hel kayfabe there are several things she would have to anticipate

1. Can she handle a really good snapback? If you get BTFO'd and that shit gets clipped? Would you be able to handle it?

2. How does one handle the retards in the audience that doesn't understand that it's a bit?

3. How will she handle accidentally going a bit too far, or her 'victim' replying back with a personal deep cut, you know one of those "Wait a minute were just fucking around. "this getting too serious" type of things

I remember Mea used to do that personality way back when. That shit looked exhausting to keep up with, Always having to be ready for a verbal jousting with the audience/collab partner. I don't know how she managed to stop.

>>55300789
I'm starting to get annoyed by her "indieness" like how a lor of her jokes are about sex, piss and edgy stuff.
Not trying to be a priest, its just that i feel the lack of this kind of talk was what separated hololive from the rest.
I'd hate to see streams reduced to talking about foul shit all the time like most indies

>>55322894
Unrelated but I always anticipated this personality from girls like Mori, Botan and Selen The only vtuber I can think of who actually still does this might be... Enna? Maybe?

>>55323880
>the lack of this kind of talk
Yeah, sure, except for Matsuri, Aki, Haachama, Choco, Okayu, Marine, Noel, Coco, Watame, Iofi, Risu, Ollie, IRyS (unintentionally), A-chan…

I dunno...
People have been warning about Shiori even before she debuted. If her fans are downplaying things she doing already and being defensive, this feels like a repeat of Mori 2.0.

I will reserve my final judgment until after monetization and collab ban lift, but I really think the most common opinion is "expect the worse" and her gachikoi with immense sunk cost fallacy are spamming the threads

>>55300789
asserting dominance

>>55325225
A-chan, Watame and Okayu is just bullshit from you. but still, can you really say this foul talk is not cringe and weird? that it would be much better without it?
I always felt like it's a cheap trick to get reaction from an audience and farm clickbait clips

>>55325739
>People have been warning about Shiori even before she debuted
And for good reason. If you know you know.
>If her fans are downplaying things she doing already and being defensive, this feels like a repeat of Mori 2.0.
>I will reserve my final judgment until after monetization and collab ban lift, but I really think the most common opinion is "expect the worse" and her gachikoi with immense sunk cost fallacy are spamming the threads
There's some major psyops going on right now on the board but it's hard to tell if it's falseflaggers trying to make others hate Shiori or if it's genuine novelites. The autism that's going on in the board is the exact same kind of autism that can be seen in Shiori's general though, for whatever that's worth.

>>55326110
>he doesn't know
A-chan has openly talked about her vore fetish on stream

>>55326404
i think she atracted a bunch of ex-niji that are used to this kind of cunt-ness from their oshi. maybe they dont realise thats what made then drop nijisanji in the first place?

>>55326110
>IT'S CRIIIIIINGE
>IT'S WEIIIIIIIRRD
Man... What fucking site are we on?

>>55300789
Why are this many people falling for this bait thread? Are there really this many more catalogfags than people who actually watch streams?

>>55326662
are you ok? if it makes me cringe and weirds me out then what the fuck im i suposed to call it?

>can you really say this foul talk is not cringe and weird
Marine is the apex of the vtube scene and she's racy as shit

>>55314891
watch her actual streams, retard, that's almost verbatim something she's said.

>>55300789
Not at all, you can be mean as long as you in the HoloGirls Box
>*pinching your smooth cheek while smiling

>>55326792
You're supposed to touch grass since that's what you normalfags default to saying when confronted with anything that makes you remotely uncomfortable.

>>55327123
Always

>>55306847
this is genuinely prophetic. screencapping it

>>55319223
Unless it was kayfabe and I'm retarded. Cover scouted her since she mentioned hololive calls. And unless I'm double retarded, she's allowed to mention those if others are allowed to mention how many times they auditioned.

>>55327288
According to all the posts I've read.
She's taken all the worst traits from Ame, Mori, AND Kiara

Truly unique, let's see where this takes her

>Shiori
>Not Bijou "The Friendliest Fire" Koseki

>>55327123
Finally a good post

>>55312771
>I can know whether I'm lying or not, and I am saying I'm not.
wow so trustworthy, if an anon on a mongolian basket weaving forum says they aren't lying you know they are 100% telling the truth.
i don't have a horse in this race, i don't watch shiori, but you're unironically braindead if you think saying "trust me bro" on 4chan will get you anywhere in an argument.
on a related note i am 100% shiori and i was diagnosed with aspergers. i'm not lying, you can trust me.

>>55301075
it's rare a fair take like this is so early in a thread. shame it got ignored for braindead ungranular takes from both sides. like usual.
t. dropped at debut anon

>day 7: shiori has completely mind fucked /vt/

>>55314423
>criticizing one streamer
>"attacking advent"

>>55308046
BAU BAU

>>55322894
This. For her sake, I hope she learns how to balance the mean girl act because once the collab ban lifts, her genmates can choose to ditch her entirely (aside from mandated gen collabs) if every interaction is just bracing for the next cringy shit that will come out of her mouth. I can see specifically see FWMC leaving her behind.

>>55309140
She fits in better with collabing with StarsEN

>>55335164
Color me interested.

>>55337917
god i fucking hate homobeggars

I think she was perfectly fine.
I hope she leans into a vanilla cynical and not a mean girl. What I mean is she can joke about shit and snark a little, poke at others, but not be mean. Not have malice, not actually want to make others feel bad or seem bad.
It's a fine line but and clearly people can have a different opinion on where it stops being a funny comment and when it becomes actually mean.
But I think Shiori so far has managed to be pretty reasonable about it.
Even she's poking others I don't feel any malice or bad vibe from her because she's still being kind and friendly with everyone, even the delivery of her lines feels more like she's clearly joking and trying to have fun along others poking at themselves than her trying to be mean.

i remember a part around the time of the window gauntlet where shiori said a mean thing and then had to say "but that's why you love me" which is her rough way of trying to steer it back towards friendly in her own bizarre way.
there was a part after like one or two attempts of the finale where shiori tries to steer the boat with a plan, something like "okay we'll stay together and go to the top floor first" and the others all stay on the bottom floor even though she just said it. bijou was dead quiet, it was very uncomfortable. gave me the impression maybe the others aren't quite as friendly with her.

>>55341452
Anon have you tried playing a 4 player co op game with friends?
Even good friends don't follow instructions.

>>55342646
>ignores all context
>submits unverifiable apologism