/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>55240468
I don't like her music and I don't like her art, but /vt/ does a shit job at trying to convince people she's lazy or that hard work is pathetic, bad thing

i still can't forget that one entitled tirade she had over the condom comment. she could've been smart and ignored but instead showed how much of a "Karen" (heh) she really is. maybe she's gotten better but there are better alternatives that I don't care to go back

>>55240468
She's getting better. Early on, she brought the hate on to herself

>>55240468
that thing about 'never meet your idols' is true
i'd enjoy her music a lot more if i didnt know she was so fucking weird and cringy

>>55240885
Except when she shitalked her cuckbeats killing her CCV lol.

After her shekels comment, I've decided she's alright. Yeah she's a bit of a sperg when interacting with the other girls, but she's a woman what do you expect. plus her bed head look is very cute. She's far from my favorite but I'm glad she's around.

>>55241772
Just say your horny for big white tits and move on

>>55241196
In English?

>>55240468
She seems to be the jealous type. She was actually getting mad at viewers for liking “moaning clips” from Nerissa and Shiori. Just let them like what they like, geez.

>>55240468
I dont get, the hype for her Music are the people she collab and not herself.

>>55240468
I like her a lot, I find her funny and endearing and she reminds me of some girls I've known. Plus her collabs have been golden and she seems to be pretty well liked by most of others. And the sleepy and unkempt thing she does is hot

>>55240644
At the time, it was clear that Mori was trying to use Hololive as a stepping stone, and that circle was a short cut to her dream.
Now, that supa saved hololiveEN from the sinking Twitch community.

>>55241925
Mori shittalk cuckbeat, cuckbeat sad. Cuckbeat no watch mori, CCV go down bad.

>>55242037
>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO SHIT ON THE UNICORNS AND STICK IT TO LE INCELS!!! STOP GIVING THEM WHAT THEY WANT
It would almost be funny if it wasn't so pathetic

>>55242037
What? Her words were that she said she was annoyed she kept personally getting recommend moaning clips of her coworkers when she wanted clips of other things.

>>55240468
I want to fuck her model. Mixed on music, some good some bad. Personality sucks. Internet clout always hating regardless of who or what it is. Faggots, everywhere.

>>55242380
in
motherfucking
English

>>55240468
I only like Red and still nothing has even come close

>>55241772
>Yeah she's a bit of a sperg
No, not "a bit", she is a diagnosed aspie

>>55240468
She peaked with Gang Gang Kawaii.

>>55242925
Holy based

>>55240468
You don't like her music
You like the music that the composers she chooses makes
The commissioner chooses the direction of the song, but probably over 80% of how a song ends up sounding is based on the composer and arranger
It's the same for essentially all of hololive's songs, and the reverse is true too. If you think someone's music is mid, then they didn't choose a composer that appealed to you

>>55243243
I don't like her music but you sound like you have fruity loops open right now with a gas mask on with a tube connecting it to your asshole.

I dont like her "rap" is dogshit, the only song of hers i can stand i the one on the vp of holoalt.

Her streams are the most cringeworthy things ive ever watched. Its too much. But id ont hate her just ignore her.

I think people hate her because some fans treat her as the second coming of god when talking about music when she is jus mid.

>>55243583
Maybe, but if you ever like a song, would recommend looking up who produced it
You'll usually find more of what you like

>>55240468
I don't care for her original music, but some of her karaokes are bretty gud
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTCvzBF8Buw
Also her default design is probably one of the coolest ones in all of Hololive

you have to be kidding right
https://youtu.be/FCvCL-MqW4s

>>55243650
>the default hater justification
>because x fanbase thinks x is the second coming of God
Grow up. Every fanbase has its diehards.

>>55242794
Me once saw of bone tribe. Pink woman chief of bone tribe. But, Pink women mean to bone people. Pink women bad. Many bone people no like pink women anymore. Many bone people not follow pink woman anymore leave tribe. Bone tribe smaller now.

Lazy people that shit on hard workers bc they are reminded how much of a failure they are and want to drag them down to their lv.

>>55245237
>Pink women bad. Many bone people no like pink women anymore

you're deluded if you think this is what is actually happening. Most of the Deadbeats are generally older than the average Holofan. There's also a fact that they're more subscribed for the music rather than the streams.

>>55242794
learn to fucking read

>>55244936
That's my jam.

>>55242794
Mori, with a penchant for loquacious disapproval, is ensnared in the perplexing dance of cuckbeats and woeful undertones. As cuckbeats reverberate with melancholy, they refrain from bearing witness to Mori's endeavors, leading to the unenviable descent of CCV into a realm of adversity.

>>55245511
Get some help. You are arguing seriously with an Unga bunga shitpost. You are literally dumber than the average chan poster right now.

>>55242794
sisters and homobeggers are worthless,
she listened to them and conner

>>55240468
Mori is old news, Shiori is the new /vt/ hatebait.

>>55245793
But for your hypothesis to be accurate, would not it have to be that Mori's aggregate subscription count have decreased since the great emigration of the cuckbeats? Surely these former cuckbeats would have canceled their subscriptions with her if they no longer wish to observe her any longer.

>>55246379
Assuming that former cuckbeats would have automatically canceled their subscriptions overlooks the complexities of individual viewer behavior. Some subscribers might continue supporting Mori even after the yabs, while others may choose to stay subscribed out of curiosity or habit.

>>55240468

I don't think anyone actually hates her. Hatred is usually when you got to war and beat someone up. Or when you hold a grudge, COMPLETELY close your heart, etc.

The internet has many cute drama lovers, that's all. You've not actually in danger, scared and needing to control someone to be safe. "Needing" to get angry to survive, as they say (which is anyways bullshit).

>>55241914
Nta but yeah, basically

>>55240468
EN3 debuts and you guys are STILL making the same Mori bait threads. Jesus Christ. Worse yet, people are still falling for it because they are so brain broken by the pink woman.

>>55240468
I can't defend her last songs

>>55240468
based deadbeat, Mori is a decent streamer and musician, even if she's not for me. /vt/ is just filled with menheras and can't handle streamers that don't suit their rigid criteria

like what you like, and don't seek validation for you interest from others.

I can distance myself from everyone's roommates but Mori's.

>>55240468
I love My Mori

>>55253572
Hard to distance yourself from something that takes up so much space.

She releases music too quickly and people get burnout. I'm not impressed because all she does is write the lyrics. If she composed the song, the melody and played any of the instruments I would like her more

>>55240468
I'm glad you like Mori's music anon. Because god knows its the only thing she has left, and it would be a shame if a far superior holo suddenly arrived to...

>>55256013
Wait. Mori doesn't produce her own stuff? She can't even write music?

>>55240468
buy ad hoe

>>55240468
She refused to change her transition sound which was extremely loud. I don't know if she has made any changes to it by now. It seems that she doesn't care about her viewers and is instead busy being herself.
In short, she is an asshole.

>>55255890
>>55253572
Well, I don't dislike how current mori looks. She put on weight. She's bigger than before. She's a larger lady. What I'm really trying to say is that I love big fat white tits.

>>55257139
>I don't know if she has made any changes to it by now
She changed that like two years ago.

>>55240468
Most of the hate /here/ comes from idiot Unicorns who never did PL reps and threw their money at a musician who dared to *gasp* go on a podcast hosted by men, and *gasp* play video games with men, and *on stream too* the slut.
And did you she how she "corrupted" our beautiful Kronii, she was perfect before Mori and now she's *collabing with men* and even worse *laughing at their jokes*.
So it'sa really twisted version of buyers remorse or something.
Most of the hate she gets from outside of /here/ is from black zoomers who think white woman shouldn't be allowed to rhyme because of "cultural appropriation" or something, and a KYM mod astroturfing that AI horse porn stuff.

>>55253572
Same desu~

>>55257756
Go back to your general than

>>55257756
the really funny thing thing is that Gura's PL did worse, and they make imaginary excuses for her.

>>55256139
NTA
but I doubt she produces the backing tracks
In my limited hip-hop/rap knowledge The only rapper I know that produces their tracks is Kanye

>>55240468
Music success on the back of Hololive, despite having no real special talent and being average at best at singing and just plain bad rapping. you only need to watch her Boogey Voxx collab songs to see how badly she gets destroyed by other inde rappers

>>55257225
>She put on weight. She's bigger than before. She's a larger lady
She's straight up a lost a lot weight between 2021 to now, I'm not really sure pushing this like she's a BBW or something when she's just midly chubby

>>55240468
I don't even bother arguing with cuckbeats anymore. I just point out her ccv is in the shitter and laugh when they go "but she got carried by muh one piece". If this trend keeps up she'll reach 3 view status 12 months from now.

>>55259445
>If this trend keeps up she'll reach 3 view status 12 months from now.
I will be grudgeposting you when it doesn't happen.

>>55259199
Just getting banned to point out that she's fatter than she's ever been and that all her pictures posted on social media use AI filters and fat girl angle shots to hide it.
Protip: check her twitch streams if you want to see the truth. Those concert shots where she was lying on the ground look flattering compared to what she looks like now.

>>55259445
I'm very optimistic about her future CCV.
What is clearly killing her CCV is her Twitch channel, RM business and the mention of connor in every stream.
When she quits them all, mori's popularity will recover.

>>55259812
>edited pic
>of her after applying make up with her bare hands for a gag
Antis are pathetic

>>55259812
Anon, there is AI that could detect if a Photo was manipulated by Photoshop. You're not being slick here.

>>55260010
>Edited
I knew you white knights would say that, i noted down the timestamp. You just got baited.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1864923718
01:12:19
Get fucked.

>>55260246
Lens distortion.

I cancelled her when she started Twitch.

>>55260246
Anon, going into still in-betweens is also not a slick trick at all.

>>55260246
old and fat

>>55260246
>>55261323
>"White Knights"
>"Family Guy"

>>55242794
How do you not understand baby english

>>55261485
>S-s-she's still attractive

>>55259199
>thighs bigger than her head.
>Wider than everyone she takes pictures with.
If that's mildly chubby I'm a twig. Seriously she's shorter and bigger than me.

Her music sucks but I like Mori as a person

>>55260246
>I knew you white knights
Nigga anyone with eyes can see that pic is edited, you stretched out her face so badly that her forehead, brow, and part of hair is not even congruent with the rest of her face
Not even going to point that doorway and picture frame behind have also been warpped to shit
What's pathetic is you're accusing her of " use AI filters and fat girl angle shots to hide it." while cherry picking stills from a live stream and photoshoping them when she literally has several unedited bodyshots on her twitter that prove you wrong
You KNOW they do which why coping by sticking to headshot and photoshopping them
What a joke of human being lol

>>55262283
>thighs bigger than her head
I have seen some older pics and that has always been true.

>>55240468
Her music is mid and she admitted herself that she has diagnosed mental issues, she is the perfect example why cover should include psychological illness in their casting filters

>>55264549
>she is the perfect example why cover should include psychological illness in their casting filters
Isn't that like half of the holos?

>>55262827
Holy cope they're identical.

>>55243583
This but with Mori's asshole.

>>55257756
A lot of these things that ruined Mori Calliope as a character could have been avoided all together if she could differentiate between the artist and the medium. Mori didn't need to go on that podcast. I would have cared a lot less if the roommate did it. But, were here now. In the year of our lord 2023. I don't hate the artist. I hate the wasted potential of something that could have been better. But, it's not because of something that can be changed. It's because that's how it was portrayed and that's how the character of Mori Calliope is now. Gawr Gura is Gawr Gura she's not the artist playing as Gawr Gura. But Mori Calliope is not just Mori Calliope she's someone else. Everything else is on the artist. Some people anti male collabs like it's the plague. But, in reality male collabs do exist among idols and they work. But, not in the way some of hololive are doing them which is just a trash fire. Another wasted potential.

>>55265155
FYI taking a mental health break, getting memed into a menhera character, suffering from a temporary depressive episode or being diagnosed by armchair Psychologist /here/ doesn’t count

>>55265931
Bro, Mori's appearance on Trash Taste was to promote Hololive and Vtubing. It directly led to the partnership between Cover and KADOKAWA, the company that owns TT. Who have since sponsored numerous Hololive events like the last Holofes. It's not something she did on a whim, it was a corporate push.

>>55240468
the Shiori bait threads doesn't work anymore?

>>55266963
If that podcast had ended completely after a few episodes, I would have believed your fan fictions.
But she denies them all.

>>55267383
Anon, that podcast isn't for vtubers, they're for people who are trying to get into anime.

>>55266963
>It directly led to the partnership between Cover and KADOKAWA
Damn, good thing your mori tupla told you that

>>55267723
Ah, so that's why she tried to get into the VA industry, where she could use their connections.

>>55267679
You seem like a good deadbeat.
But you need to google where she was when she cancelled myth collab and why she had to work 16 hours a day.

>>55240468
honestly she's improved by leaps and bounds over the years. found her groove as a streamer, and improved her musical ability beyond rapping.

hell even her rapping has improved. if we're going by her most recent collaboration with reol, her flow has taken on melodic characteristics besides the generic "i can rap fast". her lyricism has improved with attempts at multi-syllabic rhyme schemes. still has a long way to go, but the effort is noticable

>>55267723
>Calliope Mori™ owned by Cover corp
>Trash Taste™ owned KADOKAWA
>Immediately following her appearance Cover began receiving sponsorship from KADOKAWA owned subsidiaries
>"NO NO NO BRO THESE EVENTS AREN'T CONNECT AT ALL, COVER PAID HER TO GO ON THE SHOW FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES BRO, ITS ALL CONCIDENCE BRO TRUST ME!!"
Ogey

>>55240468
I don't

>>55268546
Bushiroad and Kadokawa are completely different companies, anon.
And it was suisei who made the connection with Bushiroad.

>>55268986
>Bushiroad
Who said shit about Bushiroad? stop trying to pivot retard

>>55266963
That shit sounds real but hololive first fes was in January 2020. Kadokawa was already sponsoring covers other products all the way to September. The podcast was in November if I recall correctly. Also, trash taste isn't owned by kadokawa its affiliated with Geexplus which is a subsidiary of kadokawa. But, I can also see why cover would push for this, since it promotes the brand. But it's a podcast on YouTube with a group that doesn't hold much influence outside of western anime circles. Eh....it's kinda makes sense. But, also doesn't.

>>55270576
Kadokawa was only doing sponsorships all the way till September. Brain fart.

>>55270576
Anon, management was with her. Do you unironically think that company relations only need one connection to be made?

>>55270984
>>55270889
Kadokawa stopped its sponsorship up until a point and that point was theoretically in September. The bushiroad sponsorship came afterwards.

>>55270576
Anon the entirety of HoloEN at that time got a sponsorship deal for BookWalker (company owned Kadokawa) that's not at all a coincidence
It was a clear example of quid pro quo

>>55268546
>mori and furs collab a Ton
>both meet at LA houseparty
>drunk shenanigans happen
>both barely collab in the following months, gura streams less and less
Gee anon, I felt like mori was behind this but now we can treat this like a fact I guess

>>55272883
>not included in info:
>Mori antis doxx Mori's sister
>blame the victims

>>55270984
>management was with her
To keep her sperglord ass from accidentally leaking shit,

>>55273110
Doesn’t change the fact that your cascade logic either doesn’t hold any water or Mori is the illness her opponents made her out to be.
just admit making shit up because you are a retard
Also:
>wahhhh victim blaming!!!
rumao

>>55271499
So so far
>podcast with tt
>bookwalker sponsorship
Well I hope it was worth it.

>>55274064
Who else would attempt to doxx them after she said Gura was with her?

>>55272883
>>55274064
>>mori and furs collab a Ton
WHO???
>>both meet at LA houseparty
The """house party"""" in question was just a small family gathering, 2 points in and you're already fucking lying kek
>>drunk shenanigans happen
More Fanfic
>>both barely collab in the following months,
They interacted a fuck-ton on Rust, watch streams
>gura streams less and less
What the fuck does Gura streaming less months after the fact they met in the US have to do with anything?
>Doesn’t change the fact that your cascade logic either doesn’t hold any water
What's makes more sense? Two corporations interacting resulting in a sponsorship deal; or 5 layers of doxxshit, literal hypotheticals and lies?
>the illness
The only illness around here is the mental illness in your brain, and meds won't solve it anymore you need a 5.56×45mm to head in order to cure it

>>55277107
shut the fuck up mori go be "busy" and do your thing that sucks ass

>>55279318
>"Everyone one who disagree with me is a Mori/deadbeat!"
Brain broken

>>55279857
yet you couldn't ignore it, nice one mori producing bangers as always

>>55240468
I don't like her music. She's also a bit of a drama magnet, but that's her personality that others like, so whatever. I just avoid channels that clip her streams.

>>55240468
in addition to all the 2 pages worth of shit she did in the past, she also failed to get a nepo hire into EN3 (milky queen) and then whined about it to her fans by implying that people she collabs with won't get into Hololive.
She also said she checked and management obviously told her that's not how it works, but she openly called them liars in front of her fanbase.
She also tried to crab bucket Advent just like she did with council, but thankfully got stopped by management.
You can notice the distance all the new members have from her.
Bijou goes with Kaela
Nerissa with Kiara
the dogs with JP members
She unfortunately did manage to sink her hooks into Shiori though, hence the vagueposting in her debut.

If you watch her music, stick with that, no one's gonna hate on her music comments section.
But stay away from her streams, unless you like drama.

>>55287835
>>55290091
>necroposting
pathetic as always.

>>55246379
not watching her when she streams is a passive action
unsubbing is an active one
I haven't watched Mori since late 2021 or something, and only recently realized I was still subbed to her.

>>55290240
NTA but I'm gonna do it again just to see you seethe more

>>55240468
She makes good music, is obviously very successful at it considering her deal with Universal, and she's very hard working.
People hate her because she exemplifies some of the worst qualities of western women and people who watch anime (and by extension vtubers) moved to that hobby because they were tired of experiencing it in their day-to-day life.

>>55290240
The first one you quoted is a necropost, the second isn't. Even when the board is moving at it's fastest, 21 minutes isn't going to be on page 10. Board is currently moving at 40min TTL

>>55240885
Elaborate?
Only thing she brought on herself was the shit with Connor.

Hate on Mori's content or music all you want, but it's always wild seeing people trying to paint her as a terrible person.

>>55299971
hey i finally got permission, thanks

Deadlocks like to gaslight you into thinking that the first few months after Moris debut weren't completely fucking atrocious and didnt cause permanent damage to Hololive

It's funny cause deadbeats like to make up all sorts of garbage excuses but facade falls apart when they say "oh she's better now her attitude was corrected"

No. Fuck off. I won't watch when mori on stream

>>55301076
If you are talking about TT then their fans have been gone for long time now.

>>55301295
That was pretty much the accumulation of it.
To sum it up it was her atrocious attitude to Hololive.

She didn't know shit, she was a drag in collabs (extremely bitchy, thanking her akasupas, her treatment towards kiara), she had greedy monetization, I doubt even today she could name most of the members and any characteristics about them, her music is cringe, her humor is cringe, she wanted to do it "her way" and "do things different"

The reality was she had zero talent so she resorted to being "cringe" and "owning the haters" as a way to self own but it reeks of insecurity. Unfortunately dense retards can't pick up on that and will defend her to death, most people dislike her but will just ignore her, but I won't hesitate to say that Mori graduating would be the best thing to happen to Hololive. That way she retain her "legend" not fade to obscurity as more nips realize that no one actually likes her music and she hasn't done anything anyone actually likes since RIP

>>55302287
>I doubt even today she could name most of the members
Actually this is where you wrong. This is why she had good SC earnings because she would remember people easily. Same with her members.

>>55302287
ogey

Her personality abd music are cringe af, but shes doing better that any us fat losers.

>>55268541
It just makes me think UMG now has a hand in her lyrics.

>>55301076
>Deadlocks like to gaslight you into thinking that the first few months after Moris debut weren't completely fucking atrocious and didnt cause permanent damage to Hololive
Speak for yourself. I go back to her old streams and they're a fun time, especially the first TakaMori/SameMori MC streams.

>She didn't know shit, she was a drag in collabs (extremely bitchy, thanking her akasupas, her treatment towards kiara)
Who gives a shit? She was still entertaining and made good conversation with genmates, extremely modest and never rude to anyone. I'm sorry she didn't live up to your precious aidoru code of conduct.

>no one actually likes her music and she hasn't done anything anyone actually likes since RIP
rumao

>>55260246
Fuck she hit the wall hard

>>55268541
>her lyricism has improved with attempts at multi-syllabic rhyme schemes
She always had multi-syllable rhymes tho, ever since Dead Beats

>>55259445
You don't know what "core fans" are, don't you?
The only thing that could tank her CCV further now is a massive yab.

>>55305907
>the first TakaMori
>cuckbeats like to go back to the time where mori was a total cunt to Kiara
Pottery

>>55274220
>podcast with the most hated pieces of garbage in the anime industry that divides the fanbase
>got small chump of some obscure sponsorship
totally worth it bro

>>55299971
defending the group of human garbage who shittalked your workmates as talentless and manipulative when the only reason why you're relevant in the first place is because of them doesn't paint her to be a stand up person to me.

>>55309076
It's not like anyone used that sponsorship all that much. Gura and kiara never did. Bae, Ame and ina only did like one video.

If you like her music you have shit taste in music

>>55243243
hmm you arent wrong
https://youtu.be/ZlXmQ6jNuzc i love this though

>>55259812
>>55260246
What the hell, bros?
She became very unplappable.

>>55305975
>Dead Beats
okay i stand corrected then. i think i skipped this one, or didn't think to look at the lyrics much but this track is fun as fuck.

>>55240468
>I really like her music.
keep liking it