/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Having a sex model /=/ entertaining

>gets along with everybody
>never did anything wrong
>extremely open cummunicative with her fans
>avoids overlaps
>cute personality
>cute model
>good singer
>entertaining
i wonder why

>Actually streams
>Crawling in my skin
>Actually collabs
vs
>Kronichiwa of no real gimmick

She cute

>>55236119
>never did anything wrong
nice memory hole

>>55235493
>phoneposter
>"3. Singling out individual VTubers for the purposes of trolling them will not be tolerated. Do not stalk or harass any VTubers."
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

>>55236542
Shut up mumei

>>55236486
Oh, do tell. I'm sure this will be good and not the usual "hurr durr she was roped into a stars collab a year ago and then never acknowledged them again".

>>55235493
>How did she surpass kronii? Is council that fucking shite?
Yes and Kronii sabotaged herself

M O D S ?
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Totally has nothing to do with a popular tiktoker whose name is also Mumei btw.

>>55236119
in short a numberfag who spams "endurance karaoke till *** number of subscribers" kek desperate unlike gura and kronii who doesn't give two shits about numbers

>>55239509
>bringing up a WHO? 3dpd from zoomerapp
how desperate are you

>>55236649
likes vox tweet on mumei account sees catalog spam about it instantly unlikes. kek mumei is a numberfag who hangs around /here/ just so she can social climb the best way to stay relevant

>>55239509
that was the only time she even got remotely close to kronii's subs kek. she was even on break for more than a month and was still inactive when her subs started growing because of the famous tiktoker named mumei. kinda embarassing for her

WHY DO WE EVEN HAVE A FUCKING /#/ THREAD IF THESE FAGGOTS STILL FILL UP CATALOG, MODS?

I find it extremely funny how kronii doesn't even mention holostars anymore

>>55235493
Cute owl

>>55235493
I love the cute retarded owl.

>>55240832
>We want chubbas to act like this!
>Listens to the autists here and meets their wants
>"OMG SHE'S /HERE/ FUCK HER FOR DOING WHAT WE WANTED HER TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE"

Y'all are some shortbus ass niggers

>>55240680
Holy cope.

>>55235493
She's streams... no, wait...

>>55235493
No, CounilRyS is pretty strong with the exception of Kronii.

>>55240832
Good to know I will post more about how much I want to inseminate her so she can fantasize to the idea of 10,000 horny anons blowing loads in her like her own personal harem. We are all handsome and muscular btw.

>>55240927
>remotely close
Mumei has already surpassed Kronii's total subcount.

>>55235493
She cute

>>55235493

>>55235493
>How did she surpass kronii? Is council that fucking shite?
She stuck to the grind and didn't continue to collab with tempiss after one fuck up

>>55246359
No wonder she fell for a spic, white women are so easy

>>55240927
might want to actually check the numbers now, clockold

Is the rrat that council got Susan'd during their pre-debut debut period causing them to probably lose 100k subs each true or no?

>>55236119
>bland and inoffensive woman with 0 personality
>easy to project your perfect girl onto her blank slate
She's literally the perfect vtuber.

>shite
of course the perfidious albion would sow discord

>>55236670
I'd really love to see the trends you are seeing here and the statistics you used to make those conclusions. This is almost as bad as that line chart in that it instantly outs you as an innumerate retard.

>>55235493
The real question is how is Fauna still at 3rd behind kronii, that's the real question.

>>55235493
sounds like Gura

>>55235493
she's cute and doesn't cull her fanbase

>>55249579
Not sexy enough, although recently her sex appeal has skyrocketed and is imo sexier than kronii now

>>55249227
Very much so.

>>55240832
>this is what Nijifags actually believe

>>55250082
I know that Sana never ended up streaming but what caused here to do so much worse than the others at first?

I liked her debut and her model.

>>55251788
Black

>>55235493
>Is council that fucking shite?
Yes. A failed Gen through and through.

>>55251788
Cute and quirky sure but the aussie accent on both her and Bae might have been too much early on combined with the expectations put on them following up Myth

>>55251788
It was dark skin tone. Flare suffered even more than Sana with that debuff.

>>55235493
Does it need to be said?

Council had problems at the start
>Embarrassing Jap lore that just had to outshine Myth's far more comprehensive lore dump, coupled with how fucking badly written it was. Shit read like it was ran through a DeepL translator. Overpromised the power of these girls, delivered a bunch of dopes instead.
>Understaffed EN middle management
>Upper management meddling, forcing weekly "meetings" instead of just fucking streaming streaming
> All of them wanting the North America prime time hours, splitting the audience up
> Cronyism in the hiring process. If there was to be Cronyism in the selection process the last fucking person you choose is Ina, who wanted an illustrator to bounce off of. Sana should have been someone who had streaming as a career first and foremost.
>Cover assuming (or perhaps the EN bosses Overpromising the main Japan office) that Councilrys would naturally meet similar Myth numbers
> Council was dropped way too early. Should have been dropped in the Fall or winter 2021. Myth was still brand new and suddenly these new girls just drop in? IRyS' release time was fine, but she should have had 3-4 months to establish herself, build a relationship with Myth, then usher in Council in the Fall.
They seem to be doing better now, but it was a bumpy road.

>>55235791
You say that but then what about Shiori? Teh sex model is all she got.

>>55250082
In a week, there were more than 10 culls for council debuts, and they never bitched at Twitter like Holox.
>Hurr Durr, my YT numbers got Susan'd. Tasuketeeeee manechan!!!! Guys, please subscribe back!
I'm keked at that time, fucking crybabies ShilloX.

>>55236119
>creates her own medical problems on top of existing medical problems
>doesn't want to do anything about them
>doctors are a waste of time
>walking a dog is exercise
>i need vegetables
>i won't get vegetables
>i am right, and i need vegetables, and i am right
>i am a genius...OH NO
>"can i get food?"
>>55253355
council has gone through some bad shit. however
>irys continues to be uninteresting
>kronii's priorities lie elsewhere
>fauna is growing steadily in her power level
>bae cultivates an uninteresting persona and uninteresting content (like wife i suppose)
>mumei will have more health breaks

>>55253355
Not that bad

>>55235493
Kronii's model can't redeem her personality
Much the same will happen to Shiori

>>55250082
Supposedly the subscribers are technically there, just invisible
My theory is that the reason the subs are ticking up bit by bit everyday for all Council channels is because YouTube is slowly revealing the real number
It just doesn't make sense for all Council channels to be gaining thousands of subs every day and at a similar rate, despite some of them being inactive at times

>>55260134
however, i feel that some kind of reckoning is coming with the incoming account cull by youtube. are the subscriber counts for any given hololive member actually the case? if it's off by the thousands, or even tens of thousands, then what kind of reaction will the girls have when 888k suddenly becomes 600k? or even 1.3 million to suddenly 800k

Council is a fucking trainwreck.
It should be scrapped. Keep Baelz and merge with IRyS (it's not like she's a real vsinger).

>>55260356
that rat ain't worth keeping anon.
seriously, at this point, it is too clear that council was the "myth experiment" in 1.4 form. Advent is the true 2.0
but the tree can stay
and maybe the owl

>>55235493
Yes, yes it is. Literally only moompers at this point, has managed to not piss people off being retarded or having a disappointingly out of touch take on the audience.

Bae is in most respects not bad but is not that good either, she is more homo involved but has not had an improve yourself moment. She also just has not much personality and is known somewhat in large part for not knowing anything about anything in nerd/internet culture. She is a friendly space alien basically.

Fauna has been mostly great besides the "we are not and should not be friends" mini-speech, which was overblown in effect here, but also was not a nothingburger either and it did nothing good to help her reputation so she never should have said it.

Kronii needs no explanation.

With Sana it is just headcanon to assume what would have happened, we don't know. Even if she had a mega redemption arc and streamed daily nonstop she would have had a huge challenge to catch up, and even if you had a magic lamp and could undo her graduation she probably have just kept barely-streaming at all (unless Cover got genshin/Chinese gacha perms but that would require another genie wish basically).

>>55260803
>keep the bf whores who get cummed inside after every stream

>>55261296
Literally all you have to be is inoffensive, i wonder why mumei is the exception in that trash fire seeing as they are all americanized

>>55251788
Her design looked really bad. They didnt even have their debut stream until the 23rd, so you can see how much of a debuff it was.

>>55235493
>How did she surpass kronii? Is council that fucking shite?
How could one member of Council passing another member of Council imply that Council overall is bad?

Also, why does Fauna had a higher CCV count and number of video views than either?

>>55235493
More like why is Kronii that high in the first place

>>55235493
Council is alright

>>55261296
>>55263672
you're conveniently forgetting a lot of things about mumei that is worthy of criticism. what's the point of supporting someone who is likely to "health break" herself to graduation?
>>55270931
you know why. she is coomerbait. and even though she hates it, she uses it anyway to help her make rent, because it works.
plus she's korean, so a lot of her fanbase has sexual fantasies about getting in her pants.

>>55277807
Sounds like nip projection

>>55253355
>>Cover assuming (or perhaps the EN bosses Overpromising the main Japan office) that Councilrys would naturally meet similar Myth numbers

How do you come to this conclusion?

>>55282331
The speed in which they dumped out Council and IRyS screams they wanted to capitalize on the Pandemic conditions and Myth's popularity. They went all in on talents and forgot to build up the base that supports them, which led to the disaster that was 2022.

>>55282839
It was not actually that fast at the time, Holo basically went through gens 0, 1 and 2 within like a year. A new gen every like 6 months was normal up to gen 5. JP has slowed down however as it has been like well over a year and a half since HoloX. I would bet JP7 is probably imminent however.

>>55253355
Talking about cronyism they should have asked Kiara. I bet she would have suggested that gyaru Pinki girl with the nice ass. She can sing, dance and speaks Japanese. It would have been epic.

>>55283774
Pinki would have made a fine Sana, but I don't think that Kiara was in any condition for making suggestions in 2021. She was working through her own issues, and by comparison Ina seemed far more reliable to bet on.

Moomu a cute

>>55235493
Kronii self-sabotaged

>>55235493
>Is council that fucking shite?
Filler arc of EN

>>55298029
Filler arc somehow better than the canon.

>>55298315
Thats ID3

Kronii doesn’t stream, and when she does it’s shitty indie games and SC readings

>>55251788
The design was weird, a lot of anons say that it was because she was black but I still believe that wasn't the issue, she has a lot of fan art when you can see that the design was good, it just wasn't well executed in the live 2D for some reason I still don't understand, then there was the issue of her not streaming enough because her roommate had other activities to worry about.

>>55270545
Fauna gets higher views because her draw is ASMR, which is good for getting repeat views, while Mumei’s draw is unarchived karaoke, which by definition can’t get those. For CCV, that’s partly the whims of the algorithm, partly Fauna being around when Ina and Gura were on hiatus while her regular timeslot is normally sandwiched between them. The ones who didn’t simply stop watching until their oshi returned went to her.

>>55303215
that explains it

>>55235493
she didnt give up

>>55303940
her character designer, pako, mostly designs bishounen characters and his work history has a bunch of otome games. I like his art but it's definitely a weird choice for a moe style female character
the other problem with sana is that unlike ina she never wanted to draw for streams for some reason. I think she only did one and it was pretty short and she didn't finish the drawing.

>>55308185
>unlike ina she never wanted to draw for streams for some reason
Probably she got tired of drawing off stream to once again draw while streaming

>>55235493
Kronii doesn't give a fuck about anything. The only reason she even has this many subs is because of her massive debut buff. It was only a matter of time.

>>55253355
>All of them wanting the North America prime time hours, splitting the audience up
That one is on management, they push everyone to stream evening PST.

>>55304160
>Fauna being around when Ina and Gura were on hiatus
lol, this cope again. Actually look at the stats you dumb nigger. Fauna incline began way before that arc.

>>55235493
not sure
seems weird she's growing at twice the rate fauna was all year even though she was out sick and even when she did stream faunas numbers were better so i honestly can't tell you

well i can but most will just deny it

>>55270545
>Also, why does Fauna had a higher CCV count and number of video views than either?
Fauna has higher median / floor than the rest of Council, but her ceiling is pretty mid among CouncilRyS. Both Mumei, Kronii and IRyS have higher ceiling in term of viewership than Fauna

>>55235791
Shiori....

Here is the answer.

>>55235493
Council is a much better gen than myth. Gura is the only entertaining myth member vs Fauna, Kronii and Mumei in council. Kronii's interaction with JP's this year and last one in minecraft gave us more kino moments than all of myth combined. Not to mention the council civil war arc which was pure kino and had some of the funniest Holo EN moments EVER!

Because she's the cutest girl in the world and people only like kronii because her model is 90% cowtits

>>55308345
which falls into poor/unprepared middle management

>>55308411
>cope
>incline
Numberfags with their limited vocabulary, everyone.

>>55235493
The moomz always believed

>>55250082
>bae was top subs pre debut
good to see I didn't imagine it
I had a vague memory she was top for a short period

she moomed