/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>552157
Peko has bad social anxiety, she probably wouldn’t do that

>>552157
Put this on the schizo iceberg

>>552157
I'm your mother. Get a job or Im going to stop making you chicken tendies and getting you glasses of choccy milk.

>>552157
Why would she hire fake family members to make a meme stream? What kind of schizo logic is that?

This is the worst rrat I've read.

>>552167
this

>>552157
I find it hard to believe Peko could go out for 3D events and such and manage to BS her mom out of it, or that Peko could have so much income coming in and her mom never bothered to find out exactly what she was doing to get it.

That being said though, if it was her mom, actually she wasn't completely in the dark; she had become basically certain that Peko was some kind of streamer or youtuber, but just didn't know she was a vtuber nor so successful. So that makes it somewhat plausible it was for real. Also it's not implausible to me her mom really would have such a surprisingly nice ara-ara voice - having a nice voice somewhat can run in the family, and Peko probably was gifted with one that is good for voice acting aka her wacky Peko voice.

>>552187
Her real mom has known about her vtuber career from the start and never cared for it. Pekora got Rindou Mikoto from Nijisanji, famous for her ability to imitate characters, to pretend to be her mother on stream.

>>552157
Jesus christ OP are you this socially inept that you can't even just take it at face value and has to write a shitty rrat?

>>552242
>Peko could have so much income coming in and her mom never bothered to find out exactly what she was doing to get it.
Does your mommy look at your bank account or something? I still live with my parents and they never really cared how much money I have in my bank account.

It's the same actress that plays Matsuri's mom.

>>552279
just a simple schizo

>>552242
Her parents knew she had some kind of work online since she was making money. They just didn't ask because Japanese are autistic like that.

>>552328
do you work for cover corp?

>>552164
She seems confident when speaking to certain people. If I didn't know who she was, I wouldn't believe for a second that she had bad social anxiety. She must do a good job of hiding it. (Which I know people like that do of course)

I heard you’re talking about the way of making Holos my mom in this thread.
Have you alchemists come up with any ideas to suggest?

this narrative has always been one of the dumbest ever of any holo, but I legit laughed my ass off the moment Pekomama spoke and we heard her absolutely sweet anime mom voice, i was like "that fucking guy's brain must be frying right the fuck now"

>>552534
gorilla tenshi will never be your mom schizo

>>552298
she said before that her parents where surprised that she could afford all the stuff she was buying and not taking money from them and that they were confused where she got it from

>one of the voice actors is an utter amateur.
>drawing quality is not that exquisite
But why could this video be this satisfying?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=swGNEJ56EFI

She definitely hired someone.

is this a roommate discussion bait? this is a roommate discussion bait.

>>552582
tbf if your hikki daughter starts getting a lot of cash. You might not WANT to know.

>>552656
But, what is her real mom like then?
In reality she’s a victim of an abusive step mom, and after recoding that Peko mama gimmick she murmured “if only you’re my real mom..” to the hired actress?

>>552578
I will even become a gorilla if I can be her little one.

>>552157
>schizoposting hours
Her mom's known about her vtubing career since her "past life", she's just introducing her mom into the kayfabe of hololive.

>>552782
It couldn't have been her real mom, because her real, human mom isn't part of the kayfabe. Pekora is a bunny person from the moon, so Hololive needed her "mom" to feasibly be one too. That's why they hired a professional, whom they can bring back at a later date if they need her to reprise the role again. It worked wonders, everyone believed Pekomom was the real deal.

>>552298
To be fair, if your daughter suddenly changes from "I only have 400 yen on me" to Ms. Moneybags, a sane parent would normally start being a little concerned as to where she keeps getting the money from. But for sons, no one really gives a shit if you start getting loaded.

>>552921
They knew she wasn't whoring herself out since she never leaves the house.

>>552952
Who says you can't whore yourself out on the internet?

>>552921
>Ms. Moneybags
But according to their words, the rabbit spends most of her time in her hole so that her mom couldn’t see her throwing her money on something. And I have an impression that she hardly buy things on her own in the first place, so it’d be not the case that empty Amazon boxes are piled up in front of the door of her room as well.

>>552981
You can but do nips care about internet whoring? I thought they only cared about the irl version

>>553052
>but do nips care about internet whoring
Nobody seems to care since Noel is doing it weekly.

it was her boyfriend using voice changer obviously

Hasn't her mom made appearances since then?

>>552871
I don't fucking understand what level of reality you're on.
Hololive doesn't need every aspect of kayfabe to be perfected; if not, how the fuck would any of the girls be able to talk about their personal lives without euphemism?
Are you implying Matsuri's brother and Anemachi are all fake, because Hololives NEEDS them to be replaceable?

>>553115
No Pekora is a boy of a massive dick, and mama is indeed a hired prostitute (male) because she needs another new and tight boypussi weekly.

>>553143
>Are you implying Matsuri's brother and Anemachi are all fake, because Hololives NEEDS them to be replaceable?
Yes

>>552157
It was another one of Akai Haato's personalities.

>>553159
Proof please

>>552385
shut mouth

>>553039
I didn't mean it literally of course but going from normally poorfag and thrifty to suddenly bringing home stuff regularly would be a little suspicious to say the least.

>>552442
Nah, ever single hololive member who has met her irl has basically said she is a super sperg who can't communicate.

Which makes her even cuter. But yeah, noel said pekora and her met up irl, and pekora dressed up in really nice gifts and jewelry and perfume given to her by her fans, but she could barely mumble a few words both to noel herself and waiters etc.

>>552167
What's the schizo iceberg

>>553052
I don't think any sane parent would care about the difference.

>>553143
>Anemachi isn't real, she's a machine
Anon

>>553196
I saw it in my imagination which always tells only truth to me.

>>552157
>you can hire family members for a day in Japan

>>553269
The schizo iceberg.

>>553313
Conan did this. He hired a wife and daughter.

I think a japanese man called him a lolicon.

>>553313
Hiring people for the most inane shit isn't native to Japan. Hell I can pay a crowd to cry and act like grieving friends and family for my funeral in britbongistan.

>>553382
I'm gonna have to do this at my own funeral

>>553369
>Conan
The barbarian or the detective?

>>553417
Neither. The not funny talk show host.

>>553259
>Nah, ever single hololive member who has met her irl
I'm just saying she doesn't exactly come off that way in her streams. She has some ditzy moments, but thats it. Not saying she doesn't act in such a way in real life and with people she's not 100% comfortable with.

>>553417
Anon meant Conan O'Brien.

>>553440
She's only confident when behind a screen anon.

>>553401
yuo'll be dead stupod

>>553143
Matsuri's family are hired actresses, her real one has disowned her due to her extreme menhera tendencies. Anemachi isn't real, Suisei herself prerecords Anemachi's lines and plays them back on stream. Other holos allegedly having met Anemachi is part of the kayfabe.

>>553478
That's exactly my point,. anon. That's literally all I'm trying to say here....
She's this big sperg, but you wouldn't be able to guess this from her Vtuber persona alone. While someone like Aqua lets her spaghetti out and sounds like she has drool dripping from her mouth constantly.

>>553528
Aqua is playing up her stupidity. She is a stupid person pretending to be even dumber than she actually is.

>>553259
She went to eat with Subaru and Aqua too if I remember

>>553243
>suspicious
But in the first place, could you tolerate your 20 some yo daughter screeching and hysterically laughing in her room every night?
I mean, I guess she’s literally me. And mama is my mom.

>>553655
Hi Pekora

>>553683
Shut your filthy mouth up peko.

>>552253
Is this board filled with schizos?

>>553655
>daughter
Sure
>son
I'd cut his internet but only after I give him a whack or two

>>552253
Who?

>>553790
You'd know if you weren't an EOP. This isn't a narrative, it's confirmed information from 5ch.

>>553717
>is schizos: the website filled with schizos

>>552167
lmao

>>553717
Does the Pope shit in the woods?

>>552167
spbp

>>553846
Anon.. I'm sorry but I have something to tell you..

>>552195
Okayu is just Roberu will a voice changer and Korone is 100% hetero.

>>553454
That's the worst one of the three!

>>553846
>It's in Japanese, it MUST be true!

>>553454
Huh? What vtuber is that?

>>553715
it hurts

>>553873
No?

>>554094
You're delusional

>>553269
>he doesn't know

Mama was quite cool about the whole thing, leading me to the perfectly obvious conclusion that Pekora had already told her about it some time before (a few hours, a few days, weeks, it doesn't matter), and they had a talk.
I mean, Mama calling her by her roommate's name live among other things would be a thermonuclear YAB -- so the obvious solution is to tell her first, talk about it for a while, list a few rules (e.g. "1. CALL ME PEKORA, NOT ______"), then stream.
I'm not sure why people are making it more conspiratorial than it has to be.

>>556013
Obviously, she had to sign NDA etc.
It'sjust schizos being schizos.

>>552167
lol perfect

>>556013
Imagine what Pekora's setup looks like. Multiple monitors, microphone, iphone cradle. The works. I cannot imagine a world where a parent doesn't start asking questions until being satisfied with the answers. She knew a long time ago.

>>560886
Nah, Japanese parents can be very carefree of their children at a certain age. I think Pekora has talked about how her family must wonder where she got money from.

>>552242
voice acting?? lol that's her natural voice

ballsdeep her hard last night and I can assure you she sounds the same

>>556013
we need entertainment and mentally ill theories, not common sense

get outta here

>she
>her

>>561006
Her parents just assumed she did some weird shit for money. Didn't really care since she wasn't asking them for money.

>>552242
>or that Peko could have so much income coming in and her mom never bothered to find out exactly what she was doing to get it.
I've made hundreds of thousands of dollars off Internet shitcoins this year while living with my parents and they have no idea

>>561607
replying to this post to see if it is deleted later
>tranny shark

>>553551
Everybody knows you never go full retard, Aqua.

>>553551
>she went full retard

>>553655
in japan as long as the eldest son does something with their lives they won't care what the other childrens do unless it openly shames them, so if they keep themselves hidden that's a plus, so you have a reclusive girl who won't get in trouble and on top of that doesn't cost you that much beyond her basic needs? that's a nice pack there, and you can always get her married for some bonus points though nowadays that doesn't amount as much as it once did

You guys, Pekora is a spoiled child. She already admitted that she does not give money for anything. Even her fans were suprised abou it. She also has admitted that she is a mama's girl. In Asia, it is quite common for adults to still with their parents AND given how Pekora is the only daughter, her mother is probably fine with her locking up all day rather than doing some weird shit. We know for a fact that Pekora was bad with her studies based on Roommate info so her just doing quite okay is probably better for her mother rather than doing something sketchy. And yes she probably knows that Pekora is doing some work online but she is not familiar to Vtubing. Her reactions to all of this sounds like a mother who is relieved that her only precious is doing well. If Pekora is a stubborn child she is probably a stubborn adult. Her mother probably did care about her daughter, but what can she do? Pekora locks herself up all day. All she can do as a parent is to make sure that she does eat healthily and has a home.

>>566262
Where did you learn your culture from manga from the shogun era? You can't force marry another person anymore. If it was a thing then the population issue could have been solved.

>>566599
Arranged marriages are totally still a thing in Japan. Of course the son or daughter can just get out of it by saying no or running away. And they're not common at all anymore.
Also marriage doesn't guarantee children.

>>552157
Kek were you just on *that* imageboard? If not what a weird coincidence because yeah, this seems like a schizo rrat but ironically in the last couple of days there's been a shitload of dumps that actually points to it being pretty likely

>>566840
>you can always get her married for some bonus points though nowadays that doesn't amount as much as it once did
So why say it as if it is common then? Arranged marriage happens everywhere but it is certainly not common in Japan anymore. Parent can suggest dates but that is about it.

>>566599
you idiot of course they won't marry their daughters to the fucking increasing otaku, unemployed, old men or combination of those, they want to get something out of it
(at least getting rid of them properly) and not just have them back later with children to take care for on top of their now used mothers, and this happens EVERYWHERE around the world at diverse levels

>>567236
>ot just have them back later with children to ta
You sound like you have no idea how Japan works and just speaking as if your 3rd world values apply everywhere. just shut the fuck up.

>>567236
Here is some study about the Mother and child dynamics in Japan called Amae. Fucking read it and not some fucking manga https://www.sociology.org/ejs-archives/vol005.001/smith-nomi.html

>>561006
>>561683
You guys are nuts. Everything pekora did and all of the shit in her room invited questions that needed answers. At the very least, pekomom knew she was a streamer.

>>572591
>she was a streamer.
I don’t think she actually knows what being a streamer is like. It’d be one of her Oniichans who told the mom that her daughter is engaging in some sort of online part time job.

>>553497
proofs

>>552242
>mom never bothered to find out exactly what she was doing to get it.
she probably thought she was camming, pekomom did said she heard peko make weird noises in her room.

>>572810
I just can't imagine a world where I walk into my daughter's room and see a bunch of weird bullshit and NOT ask questions. It defies all sense and logic. The idea that pekomom just kind of sat back and endured years of screaming without ever asking what was going on is the most unrealistic thing here. Of course she fucking knew something.

>>552253
That oni is pure sex

>>552157
She didn't seem to surprised and picked up the peko thing immediately

>>573276
Well yeah, she's been listening to Pekora basically screaming it for months

>>572945
To be fair if your NEET-ish daughter started getting tons of money from her room the first thing you would think is camwhoring, and at that point is better not to ask because it would be a fucking weird conversation

>>552164
Imagine thinking you know someone you've never met. LMAO

>>573524
She is a shut-in. Not just neetish. The moment her mother says something she would shout urusai and then slam the door. That is what she said. For sure questions has been made and I am very sure Pekora has already said or explained a version of the truth and that is why her mother never really pushed. And the weird noise is really her saying it's weird for her daughter to shout in the middle of night or say Pekopeko. If she was camwhoring. She would hear something entirely different and ofcourse she never did and that is why she never pushed. Most importantly, you guys are assuming that her mother knows her financial gains. I doubt it. She probably knows that her daughter is making decent enough money to buy a computer. But Pekora does not give money to her though. So that means her Mom probably works as well.

>>552157
You can 100% tell that was her mother just because of the part where her mom ends her sentence with "peko" and Pekora cringes with the force of a thousand suns. That level of cringe isn't something you can fake, it's the "Oh my fucking god one of my family members is doing stupid shit that makes me want to die" levels of cringe.

>>552157
>you can hire family members for a day in Japan
then why hasn't Watame hired a father?

Everything about Peko is a lie, she just wants your money. Embrace this,

>>553717
Everyone here is a schizo, I'm a schizo, you're a schizo.

>>566521
>Pekora was bad with her studies
How bad?
Did she flunked college?

>>553478
wow, i didn't knew vtubers were quiet irl and very talkative in the internet

>>572988
I agree with him >>573779
But I think she mentioned that she was once declined by her mom when she offered mom some money for housing and so on (I think it was in a collabo stream with Tamaki where the comic artist said she was giving some 3k dollars a month to her mom). So mom knew she was earning some money by doing some online job, but must not have known it was that big as she said she’d be better off saving it for herself when declining.

>>574364
Wow, it's not like chuubas can't be talkative in both. Goddamned retard.

>>573900
This is savage. But I uhh think she would rather hire a grandma to pamper her...

>>572988
Obviously she knew "something" but there are about a billion jobs you can do mostly from home on a computer these days.

She knew what train station in Japan today(basically there’s no smoking rooms in Japanese train station after 2010 or so), so she’s not an utter shut-in. She must go outside occasionally.
Therefore pekomama assumed she was engaging in some part time job and got threatened by a foreign tourist again.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HdFUDMSZldk

>>574511
Yeah. If you are coming from at least a middle class to a well off family, money will never be asked. A lot of her stories about her family revolves around her being "bullied" by her brothers and then running to her mother or asking her mother to appropriately dote on her. She's a spoiled one. Remember when pekomama said that she's proud of Pekora? If you were a parent of a shut-in. Her standards of being proud is probably because 1. Pekora isn't doing drugs. 2. Pekora isn't doing sketchy like camwhoring (hopefully since she is never sure but in this regard she's probably thinking in her head that her daughter would never do such thing) 3. Pekora doesn't really ask or demands anything except food. Pretty low standard if you ask me but since we are talking about a shut-in here that rarely goes out. That is still better. But I think Pekora is atleast self aware of her state and that's why you can tell how much she was bragging when she was able to really open up to her mother. It's like.. look Mom! I'm well adjusted! I'm famous!

>>566262
but it does in my book, so, if i cannot marry kanata, i will marry aqua or pekora

>>574793
>kanata
People tend to see only bright side of things. Having Kanata as your wife means you have her that mom as your mother in law, who I presume would be even a member of some cult religion group.
I know you may say “noooo I’ll save my angel from the hand of the witch!!!”. But what you need to realize is that Kanata is still keeping in touch with her mom and she’ll be the grandmother of your children.
So go with Okayu. I’m always telling you the truth.

>>574983
and that is fine, family is important

>>575177
why does PPT have two fucked up left feet?

Another thing I don't get was why mom asked Pek whether Kiara was cute when Pek talked about her. Is it normal for mothers asking their daughters if she's cute when they talk about their new friends?
And if she was a paid actor, that was not what she was supposed to say, I guess.

>>575558
She is referring to to the character not the person. She already knows at this point that she can only talk about avatars not the actual people. she was being careful

>>573900

>>575904
>referring to the character not the person
I mean, does it make sense to ask if an anime character is cute, good-looking?
You can ask if her appearance as an anime character is LEWD or not, but her cuteness comes mostly from her voice, way of speaking, or mannerisms and so on.

>>575516
Angels are all like that.
O sorry, you haven’t seen any,

>>552167
Already in it

Why does Pekora always get a pass for being a terrible human being? She treats her family horribly as she admitted herself while talking to chat. Even if the mother was fake she did her best to be rude on stream. She only takes from her family and hasn't paid into the household at all for years. She claims to be an all ages channel but she often has adult content and doesn't give a shit that very young kids are watching or discourage their parents from letting them watch the way other Hololive members do. She is a a terrible role model and will never change.

Why does Pekora always get a pass for being a terrible human being? She treats her family horribly as she admitted herself while talking to chat. Even if the mother was fake she did her best to be rude on stream. She only takes from her family and hasn't paid into the household at all for years. She claims to be an all ages channel but she often has adult content and doesn't give a shit that very young kids are watching or discourage their parents from letting them watch the way other Hololive members do. She is a terrible role model and will never change.

>>576574
Schizo chinese.

Why Pekora get pass being terrible being? She her horribly she herself talking chat. Even the was she her to rude stream. She takes her and paid the at for. She to an ages but often adult and give shit very kids watching discourage parents letting watch way Hololive do. She a role and never.

>>552167
This also
>The Shadow Game was a real occurrence

>>576691
This isn't a Coco thread you litle faggot, or are the scary Red Chinese trying to take down all of Hololive now with bat soup and Russian hackers assisting to take your freedom?

>>576574
>now I got another hater to seethe and am feelin good peko peko

How can this cute bunny cunny be so cruel!

>>574211
In Japan, bad with studies tends to me you ditched high school part way through or didn't even attend H.S.(you can't do this anymore). I'd imagine the university attendance rate is 50/50 for Holos and some of them only get the degrees to look like a better marriage prospect(Choco, Noel).

>>576773
I really do wanna know though why Ayame and Kiara are often treated as garbage people because of circumstantial evidence or having a sharp tongue, but the one girl who admits to everything without sugarcoating it is different. Is it because NEETs relate to hating their families?

>>574983
>would be even a member of some cult religion group.
This is pure rrat. She just said they don't get along and that her mom is the pestering type, asking if she was gay out of the blue,etc. Mom is more likely menhera and Kanata got tired of being around that kind of person 24/7.

>>576036
Japanese are obsessed with cuteness. Kawaii is king.

>>576574
>>576698
Zhangs going after Pekors now?

>>576907
Because she's honest about it and I think the understanding is that she's a much better person now than she was in her NND days where she was total bitchy gremlin to lots of other streamers. The Pekora-Korone beef was a real thing but they've moved past it since Pekora joining Hololive.

>>577088
Pushing that old doubt button.

>>576968
But
>prohibiting her from video game (TV as well?)
>she had had almost zero idea of porn before joining Holo
Here we can observe her mother’s
>antagonistic attitude towards degenerate and sinful “outer world”
>tendency to put her daughter under her absolute control
and I think Kanata once mentioned that mom was not good at cooking as well, which means she doesn’t pay attention to daily chores because she has something more “important”.
I don’t get how she managed to escape from her at the age of 15 or so.

>>576748

Didn't they tried to go after Korone as well because "Taiwan"?

>>553369
And that very same company he showed was proven to be fake

>>577088
>Pekora-Korone beef was a real thing
I really hope it’s still going on smoldering!!
We need rabbit-doggo cat fights!!

>>577313
What exactly went down?

>>577274
No, this is a meme because people found the video where she mentions it.

>>577225
She never mentioned a dad though so that means she was probably raised by a single mother that was overprotective and was probably deflecting a lot to make sure Kanata doesn't make any missteps. It's quite a thing in Asia. We have a lot of career moms and if you are always working, cooking is probably not your priority.

>>576036
>You can ask if her appearance as an anime character is LEWD or not
Wtf is wrong with you??? Do you really think a 50 year old mother who barely know any internet shit besides using it for music will ask that?? Most especially ask her daughter about that? You must have a lot of friends given how skilled you are in reading the room. FFS

>>577462
Pekora, on Okayu. (Roommates)

>>577462
I don't know it exactly by myself as well, but there is a rumor that both of them used to streaming in Niconico and at that time Korone was way more popular than Peko. But after joining Holo the rabbit was rapidly catching up her and you know, she's younger than the doggo.
And in some collabo videos there were moments showing they were at odds indeed.
>Your voice is dirty
>Hey! this girl said I have a dirty voice!

>>576907
Ayame. Streams the bare minimum but gets 10k-20k viewers everytime and have dude friends. So people put two together to say "she must be fucking one of them. what a whore"
She doesn't participate in any call-in stream nor acknowledge other people publicly on twitter for milestones and birthdays.

Kiara. Her past is always brought up. Her behavior towards other people looks fake. Her being forward with her feelings towards her senpais as well annoys other people and so on and so forth. You either love her or hate her.

>>577644
That was on her first collab with Korone. I don't get the hate. Korone has always been this way. This is like her way of trying to "bond" by bullying. She actually did this first in that host event that Marine organized. Hella Funny because Pekora kept pushing korone and miko to spend money. But Korone did this act on Mio, Shion, Coco and even Okayu. Her sense of humor is quite weird as she would admit herself.

>>577673
I love her ostensible attitudes somehow.
I hope someday Gura or Ame casually saying
>...but you're always fake
and Kiara
>NOOOOO why do you say such a thing to me
it'd be a really beautiful moment of Holo.

>>577729
Don't put sugarcoat on Holos. They're people as well and we can love them.

>>577825
I'm not sugarcoating though. I say it this way because I understand Korone. She likes to bully to get close to people. If you can roll with the punches and make a joke out of it, you are probably good everywhere. Subaru and Mio are like that.

>>577673
That sorta proves my point though. People will read bad intentions and behaviors into all kinds of things that could be taken either way. Ayame could just be in her own little world given her tendency to space out and Kiara is a loud European who doesn't follow Japanese protocols so rude at worst. But when someone comes out and says "Yeah, I always treat my loved ones like shit because I get away with it hahahaha." people go out of their way to find some kind of virtue in this like honesty.

>>577775
I think one way or another, Kiara has probably heard it already or have probably asked all of the HoloEn's and Jenma's opinion about it already. She looks like a person that needs affirmations and is very quick to look for it.

>>577893
>She likes to bully to get close to people. If you can roll with the punches and make a joke out of it, you are probably good
Is that why it's been so awkward between Korone and Aqua after the 'pretending to be retarded' comment?

>>577912
Oh your referring to Pekora? The thing is, family values can be different for every household. By the looks of it, Pekora looks like she came from a well-off family. Going field trips to universal studio, doing karaoke every week with her family, being able to visit arcades with her big brother pocket money from Mommy. Those sounds like a sheltered brat.

She doesn't give money but her mother doesn't want it though. Her mother did say that a little thank you would be nice after being fed though which she immediately obliged to. I'm not saying Pekora is a saint. But it doesn't look like her family needs any help and her mother is quite content taking care of her shut-in daughter.

It's all a work, brother
-HH

>>577927
>you're always superficial
I mean, that's what my coworkers and so on as saying to me, so I relate to Kiara.
But what I wanna tell her is that she'll be eventually accepted by them as she is.
But what I am convinced is that they are still saying I'm of a fake personality behind my back, and that's what I want other Holos to do.
>like saying "you know, Kiara is ... like that?" in their streams
Kiara needs to suffer in the same way as I do.
I'm Kiara. Who are you?

>>577966
>the 'pretending to be retarded' comment
I thought that one was just a rrat

>>552195
it was her real voice, she was talking to herself