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>irrelevant in 2023
What went wrong? What can other vtubers learn from her irrelevance?

>> No.55119171

This is just lazy anon you can do better

>> No.55119253

>>55118961
I feel like gura might as well be an indie, my brain literally just doesn't associate her with hololive anymore to the point where she felt out of place in connect the world to me

>> No.55119310

>>55118961
>What went wrong?
no streams
>What can other vtubers learn from her
stream

>> No.55119404

>>55118961
Got complacent and now the dogs and Advent are at the top

>> No.55119417

>>55118961
she naturally got more numbers than every debut buffed girl.

shiori is using every dirty trick in the books and even then will not compare to gura in a week

>> No.55119486

didn't she take like a year long break? that would hurt anyone's numbers.

>> No.55119510
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The queen is dead
Long live the queen

>> No.55119562

>>55118961
>What went wrong?
She grew lazy and complacent. Inb4 she actually has a thousand secret projects that we don't know about.

>> No.55119627

>>55119562
I'm doing what I can WHEN I CAN

>> No.55119632

>>55119510
fuck off latinxlung jannie

>> No.55119636

>>55119171
Lazy sharks get lazy bait

>> No.55119726

>>55119253
sounds like that's a "you're a retard" problem, not a Gura problem

>> No.55119797

>>55118961
chumbuds it's over

>> No.55119847

She's been streaming consistently for weeks, how long before you massive faggots get off her back with the lOL sHaRk No sTreAm thing?

>> No.55119970

>oh no she lost to the shiny new pussies
are nijinigs this desperate? can't wait for the next juicy graduation

>> No.55120109

>>55119970
Chumbuds seething
Exhibit #96738

>> No.55120178
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>2view2%sanji cope thread
make a new thread when your whores manage not to be worse than literal indies

>> No.55120297

it's funny seeing nijinigs deflecting stuff after VTA kicked out 80% of their members

>> No.55120331

>>55120178
Why did you hide shiori, chumfat? Is it because she mogged her so hard?

>> No.55120401

>>55120331
You know this isn't how you get people to watch your dying branch, right?

>> No.55120598

Who's next in your graduation relay, sister?

>> No.55120903

>>55120331
>Retard didn't know how numbers work

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>>55118961
Your thread literally disproves your statement bro...

>> No.55121088

>>55120903
Why are you scared, chumfat? Show shiori and gura number of that day.

>> No.55121093

>>55120331
They have a week ccv buff. Next week you'll see their real ccv.

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>>55118961

>> No.55121173
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Nijikek, Phasekeks, and homostar deflection thread

>> No.55121273
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I unironically have never understood the appeal of Gura. Even after watching about 30 of her streams I still don't get it. The average HoloJP is more entertaining than her and I don't even watch any of them anymore. This isn't bait BTW, I just know that in any other context asking why chumbuds like Gura would result in a bunch of useless meme answers.

>> No.55121397

>>55121273
She's cute and funny. That's it.

>> No.55121445

>new girls debut
>panics and starts streaming regularly
lmao

>> No.55121469

>>55121397
Nah, it can't be. Tons of other loli vtubers are out there and they don't have such a loyal fanbase who isn't constantly spouting pedo memes. Gura's objectively unattractive compared to the other lolis within Hololive, too. More power to those who can get their rocks off to her but I'm talking about all the people who don't.

>> No.55121500

>>55119171
If it's lazy and could be better, why you fall for it?

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>>55121273
To be fair you have to have a very high IQ to understand her

>> No.55121539

>>55121273
I watched gura for about 6 months post-debut and when I checked in during her birthday stream this year where she read the fanbook she was almost completely unrecognizable. Slurring her words, not finishing sentences, singing deteriorated. It was pretty shocking. I don't go on vt often so I'm sure it's been discussed to death but come on, there's got to be drugs in the mix here

>> No.55121544

BrownVTM thread

>> No.55121586

>>55121539
First I've heard of this. Would not at all be surprised if, like, half of EN vtubers are on some form of stimulant at this point.

>> No.55121589

>>55118961
>new gen arrives
>suddenly tummy no longer hort
>all projects finished
>streaming regularly at the same time as the new girls
Gura is clearly jealous of their popularity. This is just the beginning of Gura's redemption arc.

>> No.55121716

>>55121273
>graduated watching vtubers
epitome of man here.

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>>55121539
why are you telling lies?

>> No.55121803

>>55119510
One bait worse than the other kek

>> No.55121866

>>55121273
Because every other cunny vtuber try’s to hard to pander to their fans or berate you for thinking they are loli. Gura is the perfect balance and comes off as natural

>> No.55121919

>>55119847
They're pathetic needy schizos. No amount would be enough for them. They have no lives outside of watching cartoon women play video games.

>> No.55121947

>>55121273
>>55121469
Many people like her because she was their gateway into vtubing. She debuted when the west was first getting into them, during the big english vtubing boom and during Covid. She was in the right place at the right time, was handed a decent model and had all the attention required. If it was anyone else in her place in 2020, as long as they had similar qualities (e.g. cunny voice to match the model, semi-decent singing) then they too would be in the same position as Gura is right now and would have a mix of loyal fans, ironic cunny lovers and normalfags who don't know anybody else.

You're right in thinking that Gura is an average vtuber, because since 2020, many have come along that do the same things she can and much more. But you can't replicate being in the right place at the right time. Gura got the luck of the draw and now probably can't ever fail because of it. She can take as many breaks as she wants and put in minimum effort. People will stick with her because she's babi's first chuuba.

>> No.55121979

>>55121778
i have a slow morning, do you want the timestamps on the slurring or not? At one point she calls Ame "armay" and then vocally keyspams right after it

>> No.55122000

>>55121445
Or management said "we want you to stream more to get a push for the new talent"

>> No.55122023

Just because Selen has collabed with Orcschizo before doesn't mean I would go easy on her nijikeks.

>> No.55122123

>>55121947
Lol, shes anything but average. Shes a savant when it comes to this shit. She had over a million subs on her own with no backing before she was signed. Then she shot up to the top almost immediately. She could quit, create an entirely new channel and hit a million subs in little time.

>> No.55122157

>>55121947
>everyone was here during 2020
A lot of those people have probably fucked off by now. I didn't even start watching her until she ignored males. Then I thought "wow is there one based chuuba among ENsharts? Impossibru." But no, it was true.

>> No.55122204

>>55121979
She was about to travel to Japan and depressed af, cut her some slack.

>> No.55122277

>>55122123
That's not what savant means.

>> No.55122297

>>55121947
She was a meme queen before she even go into Hololive retard.

>> No.55122383
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>>55122277
The art of memes

>> No.55122382

>>55122277
"Savant syndrome is a rare condition in which persons with various developmental disorders, including autistic disorder, have an amazing ability and talent."

>> No.55122493

>>55122123
You still don't understand. If you have such a strong headstart as Gura did (way more than anyone else in Hololive ever had, JP included), then the chances are you're not going to see a drop off from that anytime soon. Most people who are watching Gura now aren't people like you >>55122157 who decided to give her a try, but people who are new to vtubers (yes even in 2021 and 2022). Because she's extremely recognizable and famous and she's the one that they know. She's still the gateway vtuber and people like to watch things that are already popular

>>55122297
She made a few song parodies every couple of months and streamed every so often on Twitch to a 3 digit viewers (I know because I was there). Her YouTube subs were impressive, but don't translate to directly to the popularity she attained from being in HoloENs first vtuber wave during a global pandemic.

>> No.55122551

>>55122382
Gura is not particularly talented at anything, she's pretty basic compared to, again, literally anyone in HoloJP. Hell, even ID have a leg up on her in some aspects.

>> No.55122636

>>55118961
chumkek

>> No.55122730

>>55122493
Her last karaoke got 33k. Even from her singing alone people stick around. Stop trying to downplay her merit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-VArrIPbUI

>> No.55122755

>>55121273
I'm in the same boat. I've watched her streams here and there and I don't dislike anything about her at all, but I've never found her particularly interesting in any way. She's not totally boring but she also isn't particularly entertaining either.

>> No.55122791
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55122791

Your Shiori is Kronii 2.0

>> No.55122909

>>55122791
It sucks how I'm already nostalgic for Kronii's first month of streams. Her content is fucking BORING now. She literally peaked with the Superhot playthrough.

>> No.55123002

>>55120178
>NijiEN's total viewership was barely more than half of Bijou's
Nijisanji is not a major corpo anymore in the EN market

>> No.55123032

>>55121539
Meds may well be involved. During her backrooms stream she did after her last disappearance she mentioned that she started having visual and auditory hallucinations and when the things she would see out of the corner of her eye would scare her she would try talking to them to calm herself down.
It's entirely possible she's schizo. Although extreme sleep deprivation and drugs can do the same thing.
I doubt that Gura is a drug addict though, probably just mental illness going on in the background that makes it hard for her along with her physical problems.

>> No.55123072

>>55123002
Concurrent viewership and total views aren't the same thing. IDGAF about Nijifags but all you need is like 200 viewers as a vtuber to sustain your role in a corpo.

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>>55118961
Sure sis

>> No.55123318

>>55122791
>Kronii did only game streams
>Shiori has done anything but game streams
I'm not seeing how she is Kronii 2.0.

>> No.55123505

>>55122551
>Even ID has a leg up on her in some aspects
Yeah Homo and eceleb collabs

>> No.55123588

>>55123505
kek

>> No.55123643
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>>55118961

>> No.55123672

>>55122730
When was her last public karaoke before this?

>> No.55123751

>>55123672
>still trying to downplay people's talents
Don't you start to feel pathetic after a while?

>> No.55123765

>>55122730
>33k
36k actually

>> No.55123776

>>55121273
gura is the vanilla ice cream of the vtuber world
good enough if you don't want to take any risks but plain and boring

>> No.55123786

>>55122909
>nostalgic for Kronii's first month of streams. Her content is fucking BORING now
I prioritized watching other Council members over Kronii during their first couple of weeks. Can you explain the difference between Kronii then and Kronii now? Or is it just the content that's different?

>> No.55123838

>>55123776
ok seething 2view

>> No.55123913

>>55123751
I'm not interested in how you falsely interpret my postsm, Anon. Feel free to answer my question, or conveniently ignore it again if need to.

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>irrelevant in 2023
What went wrong? What can other vtubers learn from his irrelevance?

>> No.55124030

>Gura + Fuwamoco
The dogs will chase the fake fans away and the shark will eat them up. We will have peace afterwards. Hold on friends, we shall get there soon

>> No.55124058

>>55121273
You are not allowed to criticize Gura.

>> No.55124085

>>55119847
She's going to stop streaming again once the new girls "newness" wears off

>> No.55124172

>>55123776
>the vanilla ice cream of the vtuber world
It always blows my mind when people describe shit like this as if it's a bad thing. I feel like I'm being gaslighted because vanilla ice cream is fucking delicious.

>> No.55124174

>>55118961
Don't rest on your laurels

>> No.55124219

>>55123838
>>55124172
What's wrong will her being the Jane Doe of vtubers? Everyone has to start someone, and many start with Gura. That's why she's the vanilla ice cream vtuber of the world. She's like how Heinz is to ketchup and how Sriracha is to hot sauce - basic and standard, but well known.

>> No.55124306

>>55121273
At this point, she has the nostalgia buff and that's about it. She's inoffensive enough, but she hasn't really grown at all since debut.

>> No.55124395

>>55123913
It was in Oct, and she got similar numbers. Even then, you don't have an argument because she literally did one a week before that, and her numbers were similar, just a bit higher. And a month before that she did one, and again, similar numbers. You're just desperately trying to downplay like a retard.

>> No.55124396

>>55118961
but enough about ame and mori

>> No.55124609

>>55118961
I don't know, she still gets a billion of threads seething about anything she does (or doesn't) every day. Sounds like she's still very relevant to me.

>> No.55124610

>>55124396
-and Bae and Kiara.

>> No.55124651

>>55123786
Way less animated and not as eager to talk back to the game. She went too far with the GWAK dorky shit and now is a parody of herself. Half of her streams are also zatsus now.

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>> No.55124768

>>55118961
https://files.catbox.moe/nfg1pf.mp4

>> No.55124842

>>55124651
>Half of her streams are also zatsus now.
That's probably when it's time to call it a day watching them. In my opinion, if they eventually turn into someone who can only be bothered to talk to a screen for their content. Then it's a sign that they're coasting and that it's time to move on.

>> No.55125866

so irrelevant there's half a dozen threads about her every time she's streamed over the last couple of weeks.

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>>55118961
The 7 overlap stream proved Gura's fanbase is not going anywhere. Stronger in 2023 than 2022.

This chumbud hopes EN4 even more success. It has helped everyone. Holobox is back to growing. Great time to be a Hololive fan.

>> No.55128608

>>55119171
fpbp

>> No.55128690

>>55118961
I am annoyed that she suddenly streams regularly again when Advent debuted. She's sabotaging her kouhai's first week by overlapping with them.

>> No.55129560

>>55121143
Suddenly Gura overlapping her every single time now, makes a lot more sense

>> No.55130462

>>55118961
>Literally stops streaming for a year
>Comes back and mogs EN3 debuts just because
>wHy Is GuRa IrReLeVaNt?

>> No.55130891

>>55130462
She didn't mog them though. That night Shiori, the dog twins and Nerissa all had higher viewers.

>> No.55131036

>>55119171
Just like Gura!

>> No.55131553

Schizos' attempts to make rrats are not creative since they can't use the "no stream"

>> No.55131677

>>55128690
I dont think so, theres probably a bump for them. A lot of people are subscribed to gura and no one else. They get a notification that she is streaming and they remember about vtubers. YouTube then recommends the new streamers. I bet it had a positive effect and probably why management encouraged her to bump her streaming up.

>> No.55131740

>>55131553
They're working very hard to move goalposts. It must be tiring.

>> No.55131970

>irrelevant
>gets nominated to awards that grifters like Ironlung desperate shills for while she just doesn't give a shit
VWhorejo subhuman cope.

>> No.55132174

>>55119171
This is the level of wit rarely present in this board. Bravo

>> No.55132245

>>55118961
ask shiori

>> No.55132551

>>55118961
Not as irrelevant as niji lol

>> No.55132723

>>55123220
Uhh why include the niji ID and KR in the chart?

>> No.55135815

>>55118961
Who

>> No.55136974

>>55118961
Shiori deflect thread

>> No.55140440

>>55118961
Bump

>> No.55144444

>>55128690
More hololive is never a bad thing
You faggots act like all of Gura’s viewers would be watching advent if she wasn’t streaming

Which is it?
>“Chumbuds only ever watch Gura! Why don’t they ever branch out and watch other chuubas!?”
Or
>”Gura is stealing the viewers that rightfully belong to Advent! Advent is entitled to Chumbud viewership! Gura shouldn’t be streaming, because the fans that usually only ever watch her and no one else should be watching Advent members!”
Which is it faggots? Make up your minds

>> No.55145308

>>55144444
nice quints

>> No.55147856

>>55144444
it's over gura antis...

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