/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>55049448
He also has the least subs in the branch simply because he doesn’t leech like Hakka or Flayon

>>55049448
brotuber or not, nobody likes to watch fags

I can respect a male chuuba who does not leech off of Hololive members and provides a good chill atmosphere

>>55049448
His Employee of the Month stream was one of the most fun Vtuber vods I've watched. I hope people never ever drag him into any bullshit

>>55049448
I almost like him, but he keeps making these deep groans for the female audience. I get that he's stretching, but it's off-putting

>>55049448
The fabled brotubers you worship have existed in Japan for years now and yet male vtubers are still despised. Unicorns still and always will exist. It's a matter of sexual competition to men and no matter how respectful or "cool" the guys act there will always be a level of anger towards them. The JP Stars are despised in Japan and so are Kuzuha and Kanae and what have you.
It's not really anyone's fault and the sooner you let go of this notion the better.

>that model
>that voice
>brotuber
he's just a failed vox hex wannabe

>>55050067
Nah, I don't think I've ever heard him say anything remotely comparable to those disgusting faggots. I pretty much never watch male vtubers but I give just about anyone a fair try if they play a game I really like, and his Subnautica has been pretty enjoyable.

>>55049448
he probably doesnt get views because hes boring

>>55049448
He's pretty enjoyable. The only flaw is he makes some moans when he stretches and I get his audience might be mostly females but he doesn't need to do that. Or maybe that's just what he naturally does but it makes me not want to watch.

>>55049448
Can someone post that webm/soundpost of him with the fish? It's probably the only time i've laughed at anything Tempus related.

>>55050657
Coinsidering he hasn't overtly tried to farm a yume audience despite having a natural coomerbait voice that puts Vox to shame, I don't think it's intentional.

>>55050905
psish
https://files.catbox.moe/jd739t.mp4

For the last time there's no such thing as "brotubers", if they're a male vtuber they're gonna be a faggot or trying to fuck female vtubers, no exceptions

>>55049448
I did see on Holodex he is playing a based game tonight. If I was gay I'd be a big fan.

His model is fujobait, so first impressions are bad for a lot of people, then like >>55050451 said he's on the boring end of the spectrum. Keeps drama down, doesn't really pander, plays horror games but is a chad so he doesn't react strongly. Seems like a good guy but I'm here to be entertained by clowns.

>>55051170
there was a point in time where I wanted to be a brotuber but the brotuber market is just too niche

>>55049448
This is the good guy that stays away from the hologirls right? I respect that.

>>55051072
kek, wtf
this one is alright

>>55051072
kek. gets me every time.

He gets no bros because he has his tits out

>>55051200
>overlapping the dogs
sorry bro, not this time. I'll click the notification thing and maybe check the vod if it's not too long.

>>55051200
you can watch a stream without being horny for the streamer.

Dude has two postgrad degrees, he should have been Vesper to actually lean into the whole autistic scholar bit

>>55050040
hey man, you're not donating and buying 20 acrylic stands. someone's gotta keep the lights on and it's gonna be the sisters. i just look away slightly, it's like watching my friend whore himself out for a second

>>55051419
Yeah if his model was a bit "cooler" and less "sexy" I would watch him on the regular because he is as close to a bro-tuber as it can get in Holo. Though i dont know if that would yield him more than his current fujo-heavy fanbase

>>55049448
>>>>>>>>>The most brotuber
This guy? Lol. I watch this dude. He's more like the guy voicing documentaries. Fujobaits whenever possible and likes borderline horny drawings about himself from his horny yumes. This ain't a brotuber.

>>55049448
Thing is, people who want brotubers don't care about the pretty anime boy avatar. In fact, it's probably more of a debuff than anything. If he's good as you claim he'd be better off becoming a regular streamer, vtubing and brotubing are fundamentally incompatible.

>>55051793
>Fujobaits whenever possible
he's never flirted with any of the other tempus what are you talking about?
>likes borderline horny drawings about himself
all of them do. even gura likes cunny fanart of herself.

>>55051793
If I got women to draw me with big pecs and abs I’d like it too

>>55049448 (OP)
never thought I'd see a Shinri post here.
>keeps to himself
>actually cares about the videogames story and not just make pp jokes
>no drama yet.
I actually hope the Hologirls ignore him, like he's fine on his own.

>>55052021
OP should know better than to post good chuubas to the catalog

>>55051863
Kind of true. Shinri explained during debut week that he kind of didn't have anything going for him in life despite his degrees so he tried his luck with his application and was very grateful that he got the chance.
I think he is just living his best life right now regardless if he could somehow had a better career elsewhere.

>>55051548
He also wouldn't let the other guys down like Vesper too. He would've been less popular than the Vesper we have now was at the beginning but he would've been more stable and Tempus unity would've lasted longer.

Dude I had forgotten tempus had a second wave what were they thinking

>>55051881
You don't watch streams. Also liking lewd art with a girl on it appeals to men. Liking lewd art where it's a guy showing his boner doesn't.
>>55051933
Yeah but you'd be filtering the men from your streams. Rendering the brotuber audience useless and inviting the crazy Nijifans.

>>55053205
>Liking lewd art where it's a guy showing his boner doesn't.
he's never done this?

>>55049448
Unironically I think he has the potential to be my favorite Tempus at this point. I fell for Vesper's persona at the start but all the drama seriously put me off from him and while I like Axel it's more that I cheer for him because he's always struggling. Meanwhile Shinri is consistent, drama-free, and even goes onto his RM to motivate people to be brave and send in their applications because you might be surprised. Seems like a good guy tbqh famalam

>>55049448
he's also the only vtuber whose PL was actually /here/ so he knows how important it is to avoid this place entirely hence why nobody talks about him

>kois cant prop him up without bringing vesper into it
kek

>build a fanbase of mostly broke women
>his fans don't financially support him
>they started drama by refusing to superchat him because some of them could afford to donate and felt bad
>the clown's community had to save him and take initiative to rainbow superchat him

>>55053618
sad aint it. those same fans were leaking his voice packs in discord to where other tempus fans strayed away from them

>>55049448
He is the only hololive male I watch

>>55053416
Well no wonder he's shit. Anyone who listens to /here/ will never succeed.

>>55053941
so true sister, make sure to work on your reading comprehension next time

>>55053941
honestly he's pretty good in his own merits. too bad schizos are using the "Shinri vs Vesper" angle to sell him instead of actual cool shit he's done on his own. Kinda goes against the whole thing where his fans dont want him being compared to Vesper if theyre constantly bringing him up.

>>55054196
that's only really from anons in /vt/ because they see vesper as some kind of a god.

>>55049448
If he's good then he should graduate and go be a fleshtuber. Being a male vtuber is nothing but a debuff.

so you will be tuning in to his stream tonight right?

>>55054508
for like 5 seconds probably

>>55054508
I'll leave it on another monitor muted for the CCV since I respect the game choice, no one in Holo has done it before. But he's sharing a time slot with the dogs so that will take noise priority.

>>55051881
>he's never flirted with any tempus
i don't think shinri is a fujobaiter but this isn't true at all, he's said plenty of sus shit towards his genmates but that only happens when he's drunk which is why is why i let it slide most of the time. other than those incidents i think he's fairly decent.

>>55054320
did you time travel to tempus debut week? no one treats vesper like a god here

>>55054554
>>55054784
>Doesn't even watch the content
Guess /vt/ is right about one thing. No one actually watches streams.

>>55055658
Males are solely vod material, sorry you had higher hopes than that.

Why can't he exist without bringing out the sexiest Vesper in any discussion of him?

>>55049448
>is the actual brotuber that people tried to claim Tempus as
Not people, company shills.

>>55051170
>t. faggot

>>55050067
>men sounding manly is gay
grass

>>55055080
Vesper was generally regarded as "The good one" when people saw his /v/-core favorite games list on debut. Despite warnings from people like /asp/ people rallied behind him to show "brotubers do exist". Then the collabs happened, Kronii tore open a portal in time and flung him into the past where he became part of a modern stone age family. Then his menhera tendencies raged out of control, and the other guys got caught up in it so it stopped being endearing and people started catching on that he is kind of a prick. Now we have people who stick with him because they can't face the fact that they were wrong and people who like to push him because they love watching drama.

>>55049448
I liked his phish moment.

>>55049448
I've only heard a few songs, he has potential, so I hope he keeps at it there. Otherwise I've never watched streams. Might go browsing his channel to see what he does.

>>55051231
its really not at all, just be funny

>>55050067
nothing about this is accurate

gay people can't be bros

>>55054784
Evidences point towards the fact that muted and tabbed out viewers don't get counted towards ccv on YT, so you're probably not contributing much either ways.
>>55056851
NTA but where the fuck did you read the word gay in that post? The Vox comparison was clearly about how he's more appealing to women than men.

>>55049448
I used to watch alot of tempus before VG debut. The first 40 seconds of this guys debut instantly made me never want to watch him ever again.

>>55057556
>The Vox comparison was clearly about how he's more appealing to women than men.
no. the voc comparison is because he uses a forced deep voice while larping as a daddy.

>>55049448
waay too much of a hugbox for me. definitely doesn't have the bro banter i'm looking for. feels more like a faggot friend who always gets offended by anything but the most tame banter
or he changed since debut

>>55057616
Yeah, well, same thing.

>>55057686
He’s in hololive they’re not allowed to banter

>>55049448
Sounds like a decent dude (vanguard talent overall is better than hq imo), he's not for me though. But if you sisters wanna saviorfag for this guy then better buy his merch, please no more fucking updoots on reddit

>>55054784
>cant even leave the tab on unmute
so much for supporting him at least engage with the content he's putting out instead of giving him a meaningless view

>>55057909
sisters are too busy not watching him, not superchatting him, and leaking his voice packs on discord even the fucking clown's fanbase had to step in to help the guy get some money

>>55057809
yup, and this is why brotubers in hololive was always a meme. they will all be forced to becomes very hugboxy and eventually go into the lovey-dovey or fujo territory, appealing to women, not men (at least not straight men)

>>55053016
Don't even get me started on that Gargle Balls guy. This wave needs to be destroyed and never spoken of again. Who the hell thought of this crap? It's obviously riding off the coattails of Hololive and their success. What a complete waste of time. I'm gonna give it a zero out of ten. What a steaming load of fuck. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?1!

>>55058197
i think you mean garfield beatle?

>hating on garlic butter

>>55058045
Everytime i see sisters just virtue signal about homos without even watching streams i wanna slam someone's face on a wall, a full tear wasted on this, good on clown helping his genmate tho

>>55057809
There's plenty of banter in Hololive. See Marine, Pekora, Korone, Subaru, Polka. Not sure how things are in Holostars.

>>55057686
idk if he would get offended
https://files.catbox.moe/i9ekrv.mov

>>55058686
Magni used to banter...

>>55051863
>it's probably more of a debuff than anything. If he's good as you claim he'd be better off becoming a regular streamer
There's a male indie I watch that does both vtuber desktop streams, and normal IRL streams. He usually gets an extra 1k+ or more viewers from his IRL content.

>>55058859
god i remember this, it's so perfect with the background noise too, poor bettel. maybe i should start watching tempus again...

>>55060559
He wouldnt have those numbers if he wasnt Nyanners boyfriend. He just used her to jump start his streaming career.

>>55061107
based nyanners fulling her women role of supporting her man to success
a happy man also means a happy pussy to her

>>55061107
True, but he wouldn't be able to sustain his viewers or get into collabs with people like Asmongold, Sodapoppin, or Mizkif if he wasn't entertaining. When xQc was dating Adept she rarely got above a thousand viewers despite xQc frequently being a 6view at the time.

>>55060559
I mean, his IRL content is usually under Just Chatting and that category is a free buff so that's not really saying much. Just look at this graph: -500 viewers from playing a game.

>>55058880
magni and vesper have been fired move on

>>55049448
I think the best part of Shinri is he's a literal /asp/ie

God speed you faggot.

>>55057556
here >>55057478

>>55062867
On the 27th he went to a shooting range, and today he's doing mini golf. All the days in between he was in vtuber mode. By IRL I meant actually going around and streaming stuff.

>>55058171
>No banter allowed
Even a EOP clip watcher would know that this is false.

>>55050959
>>55049608
>>55051793
he's said on stream that he doesn't enjoy coombaiting in his content and that's why he doesn't colab with his genmates much

>>55068473
Damn, now I feel bad he got that obvious yumebait model.

>>55053941
Why do you think he didn't collab with holos btw?
besides /here/, no one really complain. also, you should be grateful that he isn't a spiteful /here/fags like Enna.

>>55069833
Here's the thing, his PL's artist is a literal Yaoi artist. I think he just likes the character design.

>>55049448
brotuber or not, nobody likes to watch fags

Voicing anime characters is faggotry. N-no, of course I'm not an ironic weeb! How could you ask such a thing?!

>>55069833
kek, his PL model way worse. this is just his personal preference

>>55051863
>if you're a guy just be a regular streamer
Vtubing has the benefits of face cam while still keeping anonymity. It allows for unique fan interaction and fanart too since its not a real person. Also the vtuber niche innately automatically filters out the biggest normies and has its own culture and vibe distinct from the general twitch one
I just like it. Its a creative outlet. I don't get why it has such a stigma

>>55086798
The Japanese and ID people have no problem with males. Heck male talents dominate nijijp. It's rotten westoids who think about dick too much.

>>55086798
Plenty of streamers/youtubers are just voices without a face, you don't really need an on-screen avatar if you want anonymity. The bigger ones end up doing face reveals because at those levels being a recognizable figure in the real world can bring many advantages, see Dream. Also, I wasn't really talking about male vtubers in general, was just suggesting how brotubing isn't really a viable option for them.

>>55069833
it's not even that, he's stuck in a gen where he cant comfortably collab with any of his gemmates on a regular basis

I never did give him a fair chance, I'll tune in.

>>55053397
Shame since while I do like Shinri his voice and some other things filter me somewhat. Solid tastes, pretty alright guy, but iunno. Watch him from time to time, including now.

>This thread
>the mfs trying really hard to bring hate towards the dude
It's just amazing, this board needs to be studied by left wing retarded lunatic college niggers just like /pol/

>>55051072
What stream is this from?

>>55088289
Whats the difference between male vtubing in general and brotubing?
>just be a voice
Thats boring to me

>>55049448
It's only 1 senpai anon.

>>55090628
>Whats the difference between male vtubing in general and brotubing?
Appealing to women vs appealing to men. Most straight men are turned off by the sexualized anime avatar.

>>55058197
You mean God's Blunder?

>>55069833
To be fair, it fits his deep voice.

>>55051863
There shouldn't be anything inherently repulsive to men about male vtubing on a conceptual level. It's just an anime puppet show combined with streaming, and lots of men like male anime characters. The problem is A. it is absurdly hard to find models that don't look like they were designed with women or gay men in mind and B. aren't overtaken by women anyway and end up alienating the male fans. If we had more vtubers that looked like shounen characters or big male-aimed franchises like Baki/Jojo/Kaiji/etc, they kept up a level of kayfabe that doesn't go TOO hard to the point of alienating people, and just played games instead of singing or flirting with other men (unless it's bro-like flirting you'd see from college students), you'd see some success. Those designs DO exist to an extent (Kongou looks like a Go Nagai character even if the quality isn't the best) but it's tough to find someone also entertaining while getting the exposure they need to thrive.
I do think it will happen one day. If it can happen in Japan, it can happen here. It just might take a while and we need a meta shift for it to happen.

>>55049814
Thats absolutely what his streams are. His streams are chill, comfy, and entertaining
/vt/ really should give him a chance.

>>55087267
>It's rotten westoids who think about dick too much
The problem is that the well has been poisoned by fujobaiting. You know how Hololive was most westerner's first exposure to vtubing and they set the whole "idol" template for everyone else? Nijisanji males did the same thing except instead of idols they marketed themselves as man-whores. No straight man in the west wants to watch an anime boy do blowjob ASMR.
Tempus actually did some basic research and went more comedy/zatsudan (aka brotuber) than fujo pandering. But a lot of people never gave them a chance because they saw male vtubers and went "oh those guys are for fucking fags". To be fair their character designs didn't exactly do much to disprove that misconception.

>>55092508
I've noticed that Japan tends to have trouble making male characters that resonate with western audiences. Every month at least one or two new anime or gacha game girls manages to captivate the internet with their design or viral clips. But most male characters fall into a few categories
>bland self-insert meant to highlight the girls
>dudes try to be "realistic" but are just pathetic sacks of shit
>annoying hotheads who talk in stock phrases
>fujo bait with soft faces and weird hands
They don't even have good designs most of the time. The options are
>Brown hair black eyes skinny boy with jacket and pants
>Black hair black eyes skinny boy with jacket and pants
>Yellow hair black eyes skinny boy with jacket and pants who rolls his Rs
There are obvious exceptions but that's a sad fucking percentage of male characters. Fucking hell at least the girls can have either big or small boobs and a few personality types to choose from.

>>55095004
You forgot the horny femboys

>>55092508
You can pull it off even WITH a fujobait model. this motherfucker has the most balanced gender split in all of vtubing, thanks to his pure charisma and how downright entertaining he is. Even outright pussy-magnet models like ShibuHal can still pull a sizeable male audience. The problem is there isn't an EN male vtuber in existence like that. Vesper was almost that guy but, as we all know, he screwed the pooch and Altare took the reigns and assured forever that Tempus' fanbase is predominantly female.
Nothing short of a miracle hire from StarsEN can fix the perception of male chuubas in the west. and it HAS to be StarsEN. Nobody gives a shit about NijiEN anymore.

>>55095120
The average male design is so boring that they're drawing women and calling them men and they're becoming the most popular characters of their respective shows.

>>55049448
He could cover up those square pecs first, then maybe I'll watch him. It's like he's got 2 belts as a manssier.

>>55095004
There is actually one more category for male designs to fall on, but nobody wants to fucking do it. It's a huge fucking risk and only the right guy with the right personality and charisma can pull it off.

>>55095449
>Nothing short of a miracle hire from StarsEN can fix the perception of male chuubas in the west.
I can do it

>>55051072
Ok he is alright, sorry mr bara that i have called you a homo

>>55095449
an EN kmt will unironically save male vtubing.

>>55095449
I genuinely think western men are way too insecure to give something they perceive as "fujobait" a chance. An EN Toya wouldn't be given the time of day even with the same level of charisma.
Hell, just look at Bettel. Maybe less edgy, but his content isn't much different from his pre-vtubing days when he had a typical majority-male gamer audience. Don't know what his current demographics are, but I'd be shocked if they aren't majority female at this point despite doing nothing that would warrant that.
Really, the only person I've seen in all of English streaming that is popular with both men and women without doing content that is to the detriment of one over the other is Jerma.

>>55092508
The problem is that anime is almost by necessity centered around fanservice, there is no reason to design an unattractive character after all. So by virtue of being male there are already some yume/fujo bait qualities. On a side-note, it might be why nobody watches Shinri, those who are into his design see that he doesn't pander to them, and those who want a brotuber are turned off by the fujobait desgin.

Tempiss1 had the fortune/misfortune of having absolute blunder character designs because Cover, somehow, despite spending gorillions to blatantly shill them, completely fucked up the design process and gave them ridiculous models.
But those models actually worked to ward off the "fujobait" problem and people kind of had sympathy for them from the get-go for being so ugly.
From the perspective of a regular male hololive viewer who isn't gay, this all worked out for them on debut.
Keyword being on debut. Obviously they lost all good-will they had when they started being sex pests and leeches.
But I will say there were quite a lot of normal people who fell for the brotuber meme for Vesper and Magni and watched them in the debut weeks. Including me. At least I can say I gave them a chance so my hatred for them isn't just based on them being male. Vesoer needs to be fucking fired btw.

Fine I'll try him out.
Thing is for brotubers, I go straight to the source. Twitch.

>>55049448
who?

>>55051072
lmao

Sisters keep trying to saviorfag this worthless shitter by claiming he's le based or whatever but he's arguably the most cancerous tempiss. Deep breathy Vox wannabe voice, posts photos of his sex toys to twitter and brags about all the kinky shit he's done IRL. He makes Luxiem look like brotubers. The fact that he doesn't try to leech from Hololive doesn't mean he isn't as much or more of a menace to holopro than any of the other homos.

>>55102555
>posts photos of his sex toys to twitter and brags about all the kinky shit he's done IRL
is this true or just another schizopost?

>>55051072
Did this fag collab with the girls? I need to know kek

>>55102795
It's true, I have no idea how to search on twitter and I'm not gonna go dig through 1000 homo tweets but he posted a photo of some tandem underwear sex toy as well as showing off his extremely low rice purity score and some other """subtle""" nods to how much he's gotten around.

Sneed
I don't understand why tempus didn't promote group unity by continuing to raid into each other one after another. Shinri tried to keep it going but for some reason the other guys just started fucking around. Disorganization is what killed the branch. Ironically they are still doing better than holostars JP.

>>55051072
wew

>>55051548
Shinri is everything Vesper should've been. I'm sad menhara grandpa gets so much attention and the actual chillest best dude in all of Tempus gets shunned.

>sisters would rather make a thread talking about how based shinri is rather than watch his streams
kek

>>55102877
As far as I know he never collabed or interacted with them.

>>55051072
this type of laught always gets me

>>55100752
>The problem is that anime is almost by necessity centered around fanservice
Maybe a few genres are, but not the medium as a whole. The most popular manga of all time has a ton of unattractive characters that are well-liked by the fans for their actions or personalities. Why can't any of them be the inspiration for a vtuber design, like Blackbeard?
Even if we're talking about anime where characters aren't ugly, it's not like a normal conversation about them would devolve into how much one wants to fuck them. I went to the gym a lot as a teenager because I wanted to be cool and strong like Goku, I wasn't attracted to him. Why is it so hard to have a dynamic like that with vtubers in the west?

>>55103435
>X would rather make a thread talking about how based X is rather than watch his/her streams
first time on /vt/?

HoloEN fills a niche in streaming that isn't covered by western streamers using a webcam, maybe by virtue of their streaming life being so isolated from the rest of the world. StarsEN so far feels like Twitch streamers with a small extra of singing for some members. If someone is looking to fill the brotuber niche, they need to win over enough viewers from the gigantic twitch channels already filling that niche like xqc, kai. Why are people even looking towards vtubers with trying to find brotuber?

>>55104106
I feel like the brotuber angle would only work if they can replace the anituber niche. Plenty of anons /here/ said that tempus filled that kind of role since they can talk about anime freely without getting shit on by ironic weebs/normalfags.

>>55049448
>model MADE for 35 year old femcels
No. The only valid brotuber was Vesper and he killed himself, it's fucking joever

>>55050057
Good point, I also can't imagine myself watching a dude palying an anime character, like I get girls, they are retarded and it's cute, but with dudes, I just rather watch my favourite fleshie. I don't even have any vendetta against them, its just...I can't.

>>55049448
unfortunate

>>55103710
Goku is 'cool and strong' because he has the feats, not because of his looks, whereas male vtubers aren't usually anything particularly special in gaming skill or otherwise. Girls don't really need any skills because even incompetence and ignorance is cute. But on a man it's offputting.
If you want a muscular swordsman model hire a MHW speedrunner at the least or something.

>>55051072
kek lost

>>55104106
xqc, kai and a whole host of other big streamers are hostile to the anime community, and I frankly would rather look at an anime character than a normal facecam human anyway. People portraying themselves as drawn versions of themselves predates vtubing, there's no reason it can't be an extension of that for all kinds of content creators.

>>55102877
I think he was on Ames show recently? Where she forgot his name.

>>55049448
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is the actual brotuber that people tried to claim Tempus as
shill harder sisters, I'm sure people are convinced

>>55104264
Vespiss was never a brotuber retard, he fooled fucking retarded browns into thinking he was though
In fact you might say he is the very antithesis of a "bro" considering he single-handedly killed the entire unity of his gen with his psychotic faggotry

>>55100134
The difference between them is Toya mostly presents in a way that targets a male audience. Look at his lolicon schtick; only men will find that shit funny, and it worked. His JP male audience considers him a gigachad. The problem is Bettel's schtick appeals to everyone, and because of the hard filter of his model, only women give him a chance. He can easily bypass that by relating to that tiny male audience.
That's the same reason Ougaman has a sizeable male split too; he does and says things only other dudes can relate to.

>>55051382
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>>55051072
Why do you feel the need to samefag every time you post this?

>>55049448
he got titties

>>55095743
This is never going to work unless the person behind is legitimately an obsessive toku otaku, with the charisma to pull off acting like a toku character for hours at a time. Good luck finding someone like that in the EN side kek

>>55105886
wdhmbt?

>>55095449
>Vesper was almost that guy but, as we all know, he screwed the pooch
Vesper is more menhera than any other holopro member, so it was never going to be. he somehow is more menhera than matuli, rushia, and menhera ouji astel combined.

>>55095743
bettel's PL had a model like that and pulled it off well

Wait he played Crusaders of Might and Magic and will be making it a series? Is the /vr/ of EN actually a guy?
Now if he leans more into retro gaming maybe I'll watch...

>>55106507
>try to watch him for le ebin hardcore retro games
>he starts moaning into the microphone and "stretching" every 10 minutes
Good luck with that

>>55106507
he likes retro games and is old as fuck so it will probably happen. ii used to listen to his pl streams reading legal documents to fall asleep lol

>>55105621
I don't presenting yourself as a lolicon will work in en. That only works in jp.

How long will it take for fag lovers to understand that nobody wants "brotubers" even if they could exist

>>55106586
needs to pay the bills somehow

>>55105886
I know you hate them, but ease back on the anger. It's making you look dumb. That was an actual funny video.

>>55106867
there are plenty of people that watch brotubers, it's just mostly 15 year olds and there'd rather watch twitch streamers or TikTok than cringe vtubers

>>55063779
The pro wrestling board?

>>55107352
Nah, he's from the wannabe vtuber general we have here, which in itself is pretty inspiring. He doesn't forget his roots either which is nice, makes me feel like I could get into holostars with enough reps.

>>55108111
are there posts that are obviously him????

>opens thread
>Vesper mentions
can you guys try to sell this dude to me without bringing up the popular menhera of the branch as a comparison?
people were able to sell the clown to me just based on clips alone without having to bring down his genmate so it makes it look like this one has nothing to offer but “at least he’s not this guy”

>>55108292
disckois are astroturfing this place but in essence he's just a guy who plays a lot of horror for the lore rather than for the cliche jumpscares that most streamers do

lately he's been getting into retro games like Etrian Odyssey and very recently Crusaders of Might and Magic.

His collabs with the boys are mainly just him losing it because of his top tier wheeze chuckle.

Other than that, that's really it. He's just a normal dude with the storyteller voice.

>>55108438
its crazy they complain about people bringing up the other old guy whenever shinri comes up in convo but as far as i can tell majority of vespers fans doesnt even know this guys name, they still call him Shinji ffs, or think about him nearly as often as they think about vesper.
the dude is a chill guy and nice to watch every once in a while so its a shame the only way they feel they can get eyes on him from outsiders is if they bring up Vesper all the time.

>>55106586
You've not experience OnoLumi have you? Weird noises and such are pretty much expected out of retrotubers at this point...

>>55108292
Shinri's draw for me is his love of janky horror games and willingness to engage with the lore of said games. A lot of times vtubers seem to play horror games purely for the initial buff before dropping them; Shinri tends to play them and pick at the seams until he unravels the mystery to his own satisfaction. He's a true Lorefag chuuba, so if you like deep dives on games, chill stream of consciousness zatsus and a relaxing voice you may like Shinri.

>>55053741
Me too. Man grinds even though he doesn't have a lot of viewers. I respect that.

>>55102877
He's the only tempus that hasn't collabed once with the girls.

>>55104535
It wasn't even a collab, Ame just decided to feature his png because it was his birthday.

>>55108937
barely anyone knows who he is because he isn't putting himself out there

>>55095449
>assured forever that Tempus' fanbase is predominantly female
I don't believe this at all. There's a certain brand of Tempus watcher who LOVES to complain about the dreaded fujos so much that they think they see fujos everywhere. It's like they want it to be true so bad that Tempus is overrun by fujos because they want something to be angry about.
In reality Tempus viewers is probably 60% straight dudes, 30% gay dudes, and maybe 10% women. Speaking as a straight dude who loves Shinri and Vesper.

>>55049608
Everyone leeches.
>>55049448
Shinri's stream last night was absolutely comfy. I love old games like crusaders of might and magic.

>>55108292
The only EN who actually plays horror games.

>>55109542
Did he eventually manage to play without it crashing every 5 minutes? I felt bad he was having to deal with all the crashes and ended up tuning out

>>55109600
It eventually got better, but yeah that's sadly very common with old PC games running on modern hardware.
Sometimes, a simple Alt-Tab is enough to break everything.

>>55086798
this, I don't get why people /here/ have so much vendetta about male VTubers. The avatar is pretty great for fan engagement and interaction. It also allows some people to build their own persona and character with some privacy. I get why some people are not into male VTubers, but trying to dismiss male VTubers and saying 'just go flesh-tubing, bro' isn't a valid answer. Not everyone likes to show their face, and VTubing is a good medium that allows people to express themselves without being tied to their real-life selves.
>>55095449
this
model aren't an issue, because most average/normie male anime fans in general are alright with usual ikemen anime boys. Just look at Gojo Satoru from JJK & a bunch twink/ikemen shōnen character, most casual male anime fans has no problem.
fujo and yume will always latch to any male character as long It's hot anyway, even Golden Kamuy and Jojo has a lot of fujoshi.
I don't trust this board so much about their thought on anime boys character since most of the time they're too fragile with the presence of anime boys that aren't hypermasculine (btw reason why most male vtuber in Japan looks like twink and ikemen were because muscular character has stereotype to actual homosexual in Japan)

>>55109484
It's tough without leeching + his self imposed ban to not collab with any girls.
I guess he can try doing more covers? Or playing more meme games to generate clips...

>>55106595
I'm pretty sure most people in holo are at least 35-45

instead of astroturfing can you guys tune into his streams so he can at least get 1k ccv without a raid?

>>55109788
You're talking about ccv in a board where people dont watch streams, hate video games, and were begging for over a year for something that ended up not being shiny and new.

>>55109788
I do. It's not enough...

>>55109755
he can just branch out of Holo like Roberu, Astel and Aruran. Hell, even Gamma's doing it now.

>>55109788
I'm usually at work when he streams. Night Shift sucks for catching ENs

>>55109934
I don't follow the JP senpais, do you mean collabing outside of Holo?

>>55110046
that's the point I'm coming across yeah

>>55110046
yes they collab often with niji and other companies to get their names out there

>>55109952
Same, except i have to sleep early.
The only EN's i can watch these days are Tempus because they're the only ones who bother fucking streaming during my work hours.
People said """""EN3""""" would change things, but it really didn't.

>>55109934
Is he even extroverted enough for that?
Because those guys (especially Roberu and Gamma) aren't afraid of meeting new people and getting themselves out there, and Shinri seems to be the introverted type to me.
Then again I might be completely wrong, I only watched him a few times since I'm not usually a big fan of his game choices.

>>55110193
Shinri is pretty extroverted. He collabs with the boys a lot, he did a podcast recently and it was really fun. He's also just dedicated to his solo content which is respectable because i'm not as much of a fan of collabs as everyone else here.
I like paying attention to one person and one game.

>>55108292
He's a charismatic boomer

>>55108292
You know that friend that grinds and preps everything so that your raid is successful? Yeah that's Shinri. This was his schedule during the Rust arc.
I remember the dude had 7-8 hour streams daily. My favorite was that he spent a few hours to make a holostars coffee shop, which became a neutral ground and his JP senpais pledged to protect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IOwfvVxhM0
Very sweet. Can't help but root for the guy.

>>55095449
loli chad I knee

its almost as if being charismatic is whats needed to succeed in the entertainment industry. notice how Bettel is the most charismatic of tempoop and gets 1k+ ccv easily.
Shinri's a nice guy but there's a lot of nice guys out there you kinda need more than that if you want to get anywhere in vtubing

>>55054508
I will watch him on my tv

>>55054508
Depends on what he's streaming, if it's yet another horror game then no.

>>55111668
yeah but the problem is that "charismatic" is also synonymous with "ticking time bomb"
Kiara is charismatic, but holy fuck is she one of the most annoying members.

>>55110185
Schedules may shift after the heavily pre-scripted stream hours in the opening weeks each gen has. We'll see how they go longer term but yea I fully expect a giant blob of 8PM - 10 PM EDT starts out of them so being pure VODs for me again.

For me after work is perfect for JPs who do morning US time streams since I Just accepted flipping my times to waking up and then going to work and then having the rest of the day open instead of doing work then going directly to bed

>>55049448
You're supposed to stay in /lgbtP++/

>>55049448
Can someone tell my what advantages a male VTuber has over being a male flesh streamer other than autismic levels of anonymity?

Also why would anyone watch male VTubers for the "brotuber" experience when they could watch the 50-100 or more male fleshstreamers in various niches that are already streaming various things?

Anime girls streaming, collabing, and generally being cute with each other fills a niche that can't be filled by irl girls, but what niche does this mythical "brotuber" fill that is not already filled by a male fleshstreamer?

>>55111668
Entertaining you mean. Bettel does make good reactions yeah.

>>55113821
Would you really want to be a flesh streamer who inevitably gets lumped up with trash like critikal, asmongold, xqc, and hassan?

>>55112946
but horror games is his whole niche. he could probably lean into the whole schizo conspiracy theory angle too

>>55095004
Someone like Shadow from Eminence in Shadow is honestly a perfect idea for a VTuber. Someone who's chuuni and knows it, but still enjoys the kayfabe.

Or they can stop wallowing in their shitty performance and work for their audience outside of the holobox like their JP senpais are doing. The only reason Axel doesn't pull any new audience is how unbelievably unmemorable and uncharismatic he is. Hell, you don't even need to be japanese to branch out, /lig/gers are right there.

>>55105886
Yeah man, it's definitely just the same guy samefagging for 12 hours straight.

>>55114273
You mean Doppio...?

>>55114393
Axel literally made his own gang consisting of JP vtubers i've never heard of.
He's fine and doing way more in the networking scene compared to everyone else. The problem is that you don't want that because you're english only.
Which means the alternative is english speaking, but then the problem is that people hate the vast majority of english speaking vtubers.
So there's no winning.

>>55114245
>but horror games is his whole niche
That's exactly the issue.
He's a nice guy and I understand why he enjoys them, but I'm genuinely sick of horror games at this point, I've seen so many playthroughs of them by all kind of vtubers over the years.
I did enjoy his Crusaders of Might and Magic stream though, he seems to be quite familiar with old pc games (I certainly didn't expect him to mention Ground Control) so if he streams more of them then I might check out his streams more often.

>>55113821
Because in the west, vtuber culture and streamer culture are completely different. There is a very different feeling and association when watching a pokimane compared to a Geega. They exist as a subclass of the gachastreamer/anituber umbrella, and a lot of male anime fans feel much better under that label. In addition to also enjoying anonymity and light roleplay, an indie male vtuber is a pretty sweet deal.

>>55113821
I think you're forgetting the legions of girls who simp for kpop idols. There's also a notable amount of female fans mostly in Asia who are also huge simps for idol boys. It's a pretty lucrative thing considering one of Niji's top vtuber is a male named Kuzuha. Bro is raking it tons of cash from female simps. All that said, the female market is much smaller than the male one.

>>55114393
working outside the holobox in EN means collabing with nijiEN, big twitch indies and all the 2/low 3view corpos, and i'm sure you'll be perfectly happy and not make any threads complaining about magni collabing with daph or whoever the fuck

>>55114907
Don't even get me started on the gacha/anituber/idolshit overlap that was happening.
/fgoalter/ fucking melted down and broke containment to shit this place up with their fear of streamers because of pekora. They shitted up /v/ with their tiamat and morgan meltdown.
Genshitters are infesting every corner of social media because female simps are shipper faggots.

>>55114600
I know. I watched VCR GTA. I watched the entirety of LFAM's saga. rpr carried every police interaction and the entire group's dynamic while Axel stayed docile almost the entire time. He had almost no interaction with the wider population of the server outside of LFAM. They all just remember him as he guy who tags along with rpr. rp 100% gained a growth in JP audience from the server, but Axel? Lmao

>>55115075
there really is no other choice than to do your reps and enter the JP scene
>audience receptive to males
>triple the collab partners than in EN
>depending on the girl, get a heteroship going without getting buckbroken by her non-unicorn fans
If only ENs weren't such lazy fucks

>>55116298
If only the EN scene were more receptive to collabs then this wouldn't be an issue. Their shit behavior is putting holo EN in a fucking box which is already consisting of many boxes.

>>55115748
It's the same as in Rust, rpr was talking to everyone in the server with his broken weeaboo japanese while Axel looked like rpr's embarrassed little cousin hiding behind his leg. He just invited himself into rpr's house and hung around him the whole time while rpr formed a clan and led raids and did business with other clans, etc. while knowing like 10 words in japanese.

>>55113821
>>55114078

I don't get why a straight man would ever want to see the face or fake face of someone who isn't a cute girl react to anything.

>>55109772
izuru and haachama were both in highschool when they were scouted. towa is in her early-mid twenties and was finishing her college career when she started. coco is under 30. the hags are the exception, not the rule. off the top of my head, the only ones who are older than 30 are oga, koyori, mio, korone, botan, and record holder for oldest member in holopro is rikka.

>>55108264
/asp/ies post in /asp/ and the western indie threads all the time

>>55117884
>rouge
Never watching this retard

thats literally just ling from FMAB

Is there anything stopping Tempus from streaming on Twitch? I've seen some niji stream there occasionally. Could be way more discoverable for the audience he needs rather than relying on just genmates collabs for exposure.

>>55118573
Altare and Shinri stream on twitch all the time..

>>55118481
His actual model was made by a Filipino yaoi artist.

>>55118424
Personally I'm a fan of hibiscus and burgundy streamers. Rouge is for basic bitch trend following chuubas.

>>55118616
Damn I'm on Twitch way more than YT and never see them in my recommendations. Usually it's pretty good about finding similar streamers, plenty of niji and lig. it's how how found out about Magnis RM

>>55100752
>>55095449
What happened with Vesper anyway? I enjoyed him a lot in early weeks but got busy with life and had to stop watching and now he's suspended.

so any streams you can link and recommend in here for people that are interested in checking him out? explain why you enjoyed the streams too while youre at it or is his only charm point is he's not Vesper?

>>55118920
Right now everything's pure speculation. I've seen things from them talking to that faggot FalseEyeD to one of them losing their Holophone with corporate details on it which gets them both put in time out since they'd just recently collab'd

>>55117485
>spoiler
I don't know about Haachama but Izuru had already graduated from highschool in 2018, so a year before debuting.

>>55117485
Anon, they've been doing this for a while now. You're assuming people don't age. My oshi even got a 30 year old outfit to celebrate.

I was really impressed with his anime taste on his debut but his huge boobies make me feel uncomfortable and the daddy thing is weird to me because I think I am the same age as him

>>55119042
You can watch the Mortuary Assistant streams. He's super knowledgeable about the game played a ton in his PL. The Faith: The Unholy Trinity videos were great.

He does a lot of 'horror' games that are pretty cool. I rather like him because I'm not a fan of WOMAN WITH HIGH PITCH VOICE STARTS YELLING AND SQUEALING AT EVERYTHING PLEASE CLAP.

His voice is smooth and steady, and he reminds me of when I was a kid on the couch watching older relatives play games.

>>55119042
>>55119412
Oh wow what a natural exchange between two completely different people

>>55119880
ikr?

>>55119880
Here's your (You) now kill yourself

>>55092508
Male VTubing is FUNDAMENTALLY different from female VTubing, and under current industry conditions, has an extremely difficult time finding success.
Most people have not been able to explain the reason for it. Let me try my hand at it.

A female character in an anime can be tsundere, yandere, kuudere and many other archetypes, but they're all in relation to her behavior towards/relationship with the male lead (in terms of VTubing, this is YOU - the audience). Female anime characters with zero appeal to males are EXTREMELY rare, the only examples I can currently think of are old ladies like Yubaba from Spirited Away and Big Mom from One Piece - and even those characters have weirdos who they appeal to.

Take literally ANY anime girl, and there will be at least ONE moment of involvement with some male character where they display a personality type that appeals to males - even when there's no romance e.g. being a mommy, a little sister, an oneesan, a cute child, a retarded child, a stoic beauty, a sarcastic beauty, some form of gaki etc. etc.
This means that there's a wide range of character expression templates available for a female VTuber. There's literally hundreds and thousands of anime girl archetypes, and every single one of them has SOME appeal in SOME male audiences at least - with a general all-encompassing appeal of just being a cute anime girl on it's own.

There are also female-only anime that can be marketed towards males. Stuff like K-On, Asobi Asobase, Lycoris Recoil etc. where the focus is on the girls and the relationship between them (often more intimate than typical male friendships, but always stopping short of full Yuri) but even there, the focus is on selling those relationships to YOU - the audience. These types of CGDCT shows, but in a livestream setting, is the main appeal of Hololive - the fact that you can interact with these girls directly, while at the same time not disrupting the CGDCT vibe by your actual presence on their stream.

Obviously this applies to male anime characters as well. Women will gush about all sorts of different anime boy archetypes, the glasses guy, the guy who's cold, the nice but psychopathic guy, the "I will fuck you with or without your consent" guy, the science nerd, the cute autist, the book nerd, the himbo etc. etc.
But, while CGDCT can appeal to women as well, male characters don't really appeal to other males - at least in a typical form.

There will be male characters with traits that other males might want to emulate, the protectiveness and power of Goku, the kindness of Tanjiro, the intelligence of Lelouch/Light, the charisma of Gilgamesh, Iskander etc. etc. Most of this stuff cannot really be displayed in the setting of VTubing, as a lot of it will have to do with how the plot progresses in an anime.
This appeal also clashes with the current VTuber industry model.
The "self made man" is a large part of the appeal of males selling to other males, and merch for them is sold on the basis of their existing success. "don't you want to be successful like this guy? buy the shoes he uses! or the shirt he wears!". Stuff like that.
As a male, you can only start selling "yourself" and "your brand" if you are already successful in something, so much so that people want to emulate or be part of that success in some way by buying your stuff. Even underground bands and stuff will need to make good music, and hope it sells well, before they get anywhere - and even then it's not a guarantee unless you can keep continuously putting out good content. Competition is EXTREMELY FIERCE in male spaces.
This appeals to male fleshstreamers as well, all of them are entertaining, funny or talented in some way or another - they show off their talent/success/charisma first and foremost. Their merch also sells on the basis of "see how successful I am! Wanna be a part of it? Buy my shit!". Note how almost every male fleshstreamer grinded for months or even YEARS before getting to the top.

What's your starting appeal as a VTuber? It's your model and your voice.
For women selling to a male audience for the first time, this is an extremely easy sell on the basis of the model appeal, wanting to know if the voice matches, wanting to know their personality, and where it fits into the "anime girl" archetype, and of course, the interactions with existing girls in bigger corpos.
Notice how all of advent fits neatly into some or the other "anime girl" box.
> Shiori = The weird goth girl
> Nerissa = The nerdy otaku older girl
> Fuwamoco = Cute hyperactive kemomimis
> Bijou = The memer gaki

For female VTubers, curiosity and appeal of the model will often lead to their debut stream being their most watched/popular stream for a LONG time.
This applies to even smaller corpos or new corpos.

>>55120232
For males selling to other males on the other hand, the appeal is success. The voice, the model, none of it matters to other males. The question is whether you have some talent or are successful in anything.
As male VTuber you start off as a complete NON-ENTITY. You have no brand, you are nobody. No males would want to emulate you, you're just some rando that no one knows about.
Males are 80% of the VTuber audience right now, and you already start off with a disadvantage in your appeal towards them.

As a male VTuber you'll have to grind out content, build up your legacy, show off your talents, and eventually reach enough success on your own to get noticed in a wider sphere. That success then attracts people looking to emulate it, which is how Kuzuha became one of the top male VTubers in Japan.
Also for successful male VTubers, the debut will almost NEVER be their biggest stream. They will usually start off low-medium and get more and more popular as their talent and charisma shines through, usually peaking at some or the other tournament setting or stage where they showcase their success.

And obviously, a male who has to rely on females for their brand, content or money is the most abhorrent thing for a male viewer. IRL terms, it's akin to the pity you feel when you see a household where the woman is the top earner or a lazy bum who lives by leeching off his wife/gf/parents.
It's the most pathetic form of male there is, and instinctually revolts other males. Nobody wants to emulate a loser after all. You are supposed to be the provider, not the one being provided to.
You can see this subconscious reaction in that recent Dacapo meme, where people made fun of the GUY first and foremost - because the perception was that he was living off the donations from those screaming women.

This is why most male VTuber audiences are majority female, and why male and female audience have such big clashes between each other when it comes to male VTubers.
Kuzuha is probably the only active successful male VTuber I know that has some male appeal as well. It's because of his confidence, charisma and hilarity - that males want to emulate, as well as him being absolutely dismissive of a lot of the stuff he has to do to earn his keep. e.g. openly saying he doesn't get shit from merch, so feel free to buy however many you want, or the nonchalant way that he presents merch, just going "here's my stuff, go get 'em if you want." - which appeals to males as well as they want to be as charismatic and dismissive as this guy is. The cute form of "pwease buy my merch~" appeal that most female VTubers go for doesn't work for males, and pitybait stories just make them look pathetic as hell. Once again, no male wants to emulate a loser.
The other one is of course, chuubas like Mayuzumi. Ultra creative fuckers who have no reason to be even doing this VTubing job and hence don't even bother about selling their shit more than the bare minimum. He was already successful and rich a f, he just wanted to do something creative in the industry. There was a lot of female appeal for his model and voice as well of course, but since he was never dependent on the women for survival, he still had a lot of male appeal for his charisma and creativity.
There's also Toya, who's more of a regular streamer, does comedy for entertainment, but even there his male audience is maybe 30-40% max due to his meme skills.

...and there's the second problem. Notice it yet? Check the first post I made.
Yeah, all those "wide variety of male character archetypes"? Zero male appeal. Only charismatic and talented males appeal to other males. So if you want a male audience (current majority of the industry) you only have a single base personality type for you to use. Unlike the wide range of character archetypes available to female VTubers.
This is why almost all male VTubers have a majority female audience. Deviations from this ultra talented, charismatic and dismissive archetype simply does NOT appeal to male audiences.
And that right there, is the main reason why male VTubing will never become as widespread as female VTubing.

>>55120232
>>55120405
Hey buddy! That's enough, thank you!

>>55049448
I mean Bettel is able to regularly compete with the top Tempiss Vesper in terms of ccv so kinda seems like its more of a skill issue on this guy if anything

>>55049448
He was a good man, what a rotten branch to be a part of

>>55121585
so are you gonna watch him?

>>55119880
>watching streams is SUSPICIOUS, SAMEFAG
this board is fucking braindead

>>55120405
NTA, but case in point, Technoblade.
>Extreme competitive autism
>Really good at PvP
>Witty and intelligent
>Oozes charisma (made memes of himself even on his deathbed)
It doesn't matter that his base appearance is a minecraft pig with a crown, he left behind an enduring legacy just by being the man he was.

>>55121636
Not while he's in hololive.
Maybe in another reality where he's just a guy who streams it would have been a lot of fun to watch him. But I will never support a male in hololive. The rest of tempus ruined that for him, and I am lamenting this fact.

i remember giving him a sub early on because he seemed pretty cool, then he instantly put up waiting rooms for the first two weeks probably, exploding my sub box, and while he was funny in collabs, his own content was basically just lore autism, which doesn't appeal to me personally. he kinda seems like he appeals to 35+ women

>>55120405
How did they do it?

>>55121819
a lot of his appeal seems to be his fatherly persona and lore autism. personally im not into a vtuber that feels like im watching my dad, and not a bipolar/schizophrenic dad just a regular ass dude. i'd rather just spend time with my actual dad.

>>55121878
They are extremely competent and their fanbases adore their skills.

>>55121733
Acting out some retarded word of mouth larp for a mid 3view shitter is suspicious, yes. You have to get better at shilling, sister. When Vesper was getting a minimum of 3k viewers in every stream you couldn't find a positive post about him outside of the tempiss general but somehow this 500 viewer failure has an entire thread full of totally real randoms casually recommending his content as well as open minded new fans excited to give the great Josuinji Shinri a try for the first time in August of 2023.

>>55122031
The radio doesn't talk to you bro

>>55122106
so will you watch shinri so he can get 1k ccv without a raid?

>>55122106
Unbased and not Terrypilled

>>55122141
That's not how holostars fans roll, anon. She will support him by watching clips and asking the girls to collab with him.

>>55122141
I didn't shill him bro. You sound schizophrenic and I'm reminding you to control your condition before you hurt yourself.

>>55122191
sisters didnt even stay in his stream after he was raided. if they dont even want to watch him why the fuck would the rest of /vt/ want to

>>55122295
Damn I wonder why those 600 holostars fans left based Shinri's stream so quickly when his content is so amazing and everyone loves him so much totally for real.

>>55122295
Cool graph that's completely contextless and useless

>>55122596
ok sister. please dont forget to watch shinri tonight or if you get raided into him dont leave!!

You anons just want stuff to argue about but never watch streams, just look at kiara.

Looks kinda gay.

>>55122683
at least kiara gets over 1k ccv

>>55122734
Kiara's a w*man

>>55122785
with a voice like that i assume KFP just watch her on mute

>>55114273
This is literally just Doppio

>tempiss shill thread starts shilling nijiEN on the side
Wow I'm soooo surprised

>>55120232
>>55120405
All of this.
Imagine if Tempiss hired a talented musician, one that can actually compose and play really fucking good music. It doesn't matter if he has the gayest model in the entire company, aspiring male musicians will look up to that and try to emulate what he does. Casual male viewers will tune in to the stuff he makes if it has wide appeal.

>>55123142
Anon-chama, why would they do that when they can pick up 100 CCV twitch streamers on the cheap?

>>55123142
The JP homos have Rikka and he's a bottom tier shitter. Just give up on male vtubers. Pretty much all of the popular ones are carried by legions of mentally ill female fans despite what you may have heard about how Kuzuha is totally a brotuber whose fans are all male or whatever.

you'd think if the sisters were smart they'd put their grudges aside and try to tune in to Vesper and Bettel, the only two tempiss members anyone outside of /MANS/ or their little holostars twitter bubble talks about. Vesper can attract the mostly male audience and Bettel can attract the female audience.
those viewers can then drip into Shinri's streams and the rest of the boys can get exposure through the two bigger guys fans. necessary work to get more eyes on the branch imo, but i guess instead of getting along and strategizing how to grow they'll pull each other down to the bottom. sad

>>55123378
Kuzuha viewership is 70% male 30% female. In fact, there is not a single nijiJP male vtuber with a higher female viewership, it's always 10-40%.

>>55123484
Vesper's dead and I won't support Froot's boyfriend, anon.

>>55123484
>try to tune in to Vesper
Do you live under a rock

>>55123495
Yes, they're all male and also from Portugal.

so when he streams tonight i expect at least 124+ viewership than usual for him since you guys are so supportive of Shinri and this is totally not a falseflagging thread!

>>55123620
>d-doesn't count
Yikes, pathetic nigger.

>>55123720
Etrian Odyssey's kinda boring, senpai.

>>55117359
>I don't get why a straight man would ever want to see the face or fake face of someone who isn't a cute girl react to anything.
>what's a male standup comedian
>what's a funny r18 male cartoon

>>55117485
Kson is hag status for a few years now. She's had a professional career pre chuuba since the late 2000s. And Shion was the youngest debut Holo at 16. She quit highschool in her first year in Hololive. Marine doing stuff with her in that infamous sleepover was a big deal because Shion was underage at the time(17).

>>55123976
ok! then 123 people! come on guys you dont even need to watch whats going on in the stream just have it on on the side. 123 people is easy to get right? gotta support our boy Shinri!

>>55123557
>Vesper's dead and I won't support Froot's boyfriend, anon.
I don't care if gura's rm is actually the spawn of satan, rm and the chuuba are kept separate for a reason

>>55092508
>There shouldn't be anything inherently repulsive to men about male vtubing on a conceptual level. It's just an anime puppet show combined with streaming, and lots of men like male anime characters. The problem is A. it is absurdly hard to find models that don't look like they were designed with women or gay men in mind and B. aren't overtaken by women anyway
It's not about the models.It's not about being dominated by girls.

Here is the ranking for tracked male vtubers (sorted by their median) NOT FROM NIJISANJI
>pic related

Outside of Nijisanji, there is no market for male vtubers to get anywhere near to any of the girl vtubers performance.
All of the sucessful male vtubers in this list did one and ONLY ONE thing
>became specialists and references in their particular tiny niches

Here are the top ones, all the utmost specialists in their niches
>Chiroru: baseball watchalong
>Nerumero: Genshin
>GatchmanV: Phasmo (also a convert)
>Hal and Reid: FPS
>Genshin Mosu: Genshin
<Tamaki: in this list on a technicality
from that point below it's all "small fry", 2k median or below.

There is no market for male vtubers, be it in the west or elsewhere except if you get into Nijisanji
It is the exact same thing for the girls, except on a different company.
>b.but 2k can feed a family of 13 in Africa
that doesn't really change the point being made here

https://twitter.com/josuijishinri/status/1635111886252568577
https://twitter.com/josuijishinri/status/1639134266339762177
Sisters...... care to explain this?? What happened to le comfy brotuber??

>>55124456
Where is Kamito??

>>55049448
voice too deep - hard filters potential male fans, he should target coomer sisters with this voice & model.

>>55124475
only a real brotuber shows off how kinky he is and his pair of sex toy underwear instead of boxers or goofy shit like the elephant thong like Gamma did! you dont understand!

>>55124532
>Where is Kamito??
Kamito is not tracked, because he explicitly declared himself "not a vtuber". He even refused entrance on VSaikyou because of that, he doesn't consider himself a vtuber.

If he did, he would be alongside Hal and Reid in that list as a "FPS specialist" without changing the point anyway.
There is no market for "male generalist vtubers", a bloke either has to be the utmost reference in something or he'll be along the rest of the small fry, with luck on 4 digits but more likely on 3 or 2

>>55113283
You have a weird definition of charisma anon. They don't imply being a menhera at all.
Gura is charismatic, kiara is... kiara

>>55124677
>he explicitly declared himself "not a vtuber"
Do you think that if you explicitly declare yourself "not a retard" you'll stop being one?

>>55124731
In this case yes

>>55124731
For the purpose of this particular tracking of vtuber numbers, of course.

>>55121733
People would rather complain about trite shite than watch streams.

>>55105621
>The problem is Bettel's schtick appeals to everyone, and because of the hard filter of his model,
Then let's wait for bettel's new outfit then, hopefully one with a more western friendly look (as to when that is, the hell i know kek) to see if you're right

>shinris fanserver announces theyre not affiliating with the other servers after typical discord fag drama
>shinri makes a big post trying to tardwrangle his fans for backsetting and spoiling too much
>they're trying to figure out how to get more people interested in shinri
>bunch of faggots think about how everyone hates vesper equals they're looking for a new tuuber to watch
>begin their plan as newfags to shill him as a "brotuber"
What now, sisters?

>>55124875
dont worry the Regis raid will get him to 1k tonight. we dont need to watch the stream.

>>55121636
Not him but try and convince me. I hate homobeggars as much as I think unicorns are annoying, I just hate the former more because they stands out more

>>55124917
>Someone talks about about the game
>People start crying and screaming SPOILER
I fucking hate people who are afraid of spoilers. All they do is kill the vibes by screaming and crying because they think that something is a spoiler.
That and you know that those faggots are going around spoiling everyone anyway. All those memes people like to vomit out onto the internet? All spoilers.

>>55124917
Shinri fans for some reason are insecure when it comes to Vesper and constantly use the menhera as a way to get people to watch this guy. Idk how they think he's gonna get new viewers now given EN3 is finally here and no man is gonna choose him over any of the Advent girls

>>55124917
>We need to get more people interested in shinri
>Let's do that by chasing everyone away by dog piling rules
>That'll get everyone interested!!

>>55123378
>really fucking good music
>wide appeal
anon doesn't know how to read. I like Rikka, but his music is generic as shit

>>55125061
why would i convince you i dont watch this dude im just laughing seeing all the sisters in here try to shill him when they barely watch the guy either >>55122295

>>55124917
This clip >>55051072 was the only thing even get a mild amount of interest from me, and even then I almost closed the tab after hearing his yume-baiting voice.

>>55125084
It's because Vesper was actually successful for like a month before he started leeching from Hololive and having monthly menhera breakdowns

>>55125589
what does this have to do with shilling Shinri and getting new viewers to him

>>55125661
>Shinri fans for some reason are insecure when it comes to Vesper and constantly use the menhera as a way to get people to watch this guy

>>55121749
>Technoblade
Fucking died to cancer
Reason: Fucking grinding too many fucking potatos in a fucking virtual game.
Stop worshipping autism.

>>55125084
theyre a bunch of retarded 30+ menhera women with a savior complex. normally they avoid the "ableist chans" but now that the numbers are bleeding out, they're leaving the hugbox under the impression that /vt/ hates vesper from ruining the "unity" when only hq sisters cared about it. these bitches only know one way of trying to convince others to watch their "comfy" tuber and it's through forcing a moralfag narrative of "vesper ruined the unity and that's why you should give my poor poor boy a chance!"

>>55120405
>>55120232
>As wide as the ocean, as deep as a puddle.

>>55125589
maybe its because what made Vesper popular at the beginning is something Shinri doesn't have.
Shinri and Vesper's general appeal is completely different from each other and their fanbases dont have any overlap at all. in fact Shinri has more overlap with Regis if anything so maybe they should be advertising Shinri more on the X app or the doxxsite instead of here.

>>55125938
>Stop worshipping autism.
Really anon? In this very board?

>>55117330
>KORE WA YABA--I

>>55126202
Vespers appeal for men was the “he’s just like me” factor he had.

>>55126985
wow you figured it out sister. so what does Shinri have to offer to men on /vt/?

>>55127088
If he kills himself irl he'll become my favorite homo

>>55126985
relatability helps you become more popular with people?? say it aint so!

>>55051072
ok, he's cute.

The /#/ raid was successful, here's to the next thread for the next /#/ raid where all their posts will have the same buzzwords as the last one.

>>55127819
>/#/ raid
whatever helps you sleep at night disckoi. dont you have more Shinri streams to not watch and voice packs to leak?

>>55127937
Awfully defensive after being called out, lmao.

>>55128029
>didnt deny everything

>>55128147
No point in denying anything when you won't believe a word of it. This thread is about to die you should probably get back to /#/ now.

>>55117330
Yeah, that's why axel is doomed to be a 3view, he just doesn't have the confidence or the charisma to tap into the market that the western male audience wants

>>55128479
ogey. dont forget to support your boy because he needs it desperately!

>>55128619
Go back to /#/

>>55128671
go back to /MANS/ where you can gossip about Magni and Vesper and look at gay porn for the 100th time in an hour instead of watching streams! :)