/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I refuse to watch IdolEN on principle due to my commitment to boycotting all products from the apartheid state of Israel.

>>55037613
based

>>55037468
All else aside, I'm confident that Idol ES could swoop in and dropkick WACTOR into the abyss if they play their cards right.

>>55037468
I only like Rin and don't give a shit about any of their other talents.

>>55037878
You must be 18+ to post here.

>>55037468
I really dislike how their entire strategy and identity is "We have a lot of money" since I feel it diminishes the dreaming nature of the idol dream. The way their talents are managed also feels very "souless" for lack a a better term, what with all the donothons and their biggest talent having gotten there by gaming the YouTube algorithm. Aside from that I haven't heard any rumors of bad management aside from them being Jewish.

>>55037468
They're funded by Mossad and US government. 30% of each superchat goes to missiles that bomb Palestine.

>>55037926
There's nothing wrong with Rin, anything you can lob at her as an insult she has already been up front about

>>55038038
Based

>>55037468
So far they're more or less clean, except for one case of not paying an artist on time. Having a lot of cash smooths over a lot of the problems small corpos run in to. How or if they keep that cash flowing in the future might be an issue later.

>>55037468
No, but they likely some tax evasion shit

>>55038217
As long as Americans continue to buy the Jewish lie they will have money forever.

>>55037468
>Have their own paid jidf force that shills on /here/ quite often and can be really annoying
>Rin and Yuko blatantly leeching off of Gura's name past the point of parody via shorts
Those are their only crimes I can think of if you can even call them that. They're Jewish though so we're bound to get some black company rrats sooner or later.

>>55037613
fpbp

>>55037926
You must eat my ass.

>>55037468
Idk about the black company stuff but I hope their ES talents are FULL ES. No whities that live in California so they know some Spanish. I want full accent ESL latinas that are gonna open up the ES market. English vtubing is in a rut, time to pander to others

>>55037468
Yes the girls who "graduated" in reality are being sacrificed to Moloch, is the only reason we've been somewhat relevant the past few months, first it was emi before EN debuted. It makes sense when you think about it

>>55037468
>Any drama about their management or talents?
they haven't had much actual drama, at the start everyone thought they were a scam even the talents they tried to scout but that doesn't have much eight and would probably have fallen apart by now if it was a scam. aside from that they've had 3 graduations but only from the hebrew branch which were all 2views and had no experience prior to idol

>Do you think it can dethrone Holo or even get close to it in popularity?
hololive would have to commit suicide for that to happen short term but they are growing steadily so who knows what the future holds

>What about IdolES? Are they going to have the same numbers as their English talents or be way more popular since it's the first agency adventuring in that portion of the market?
i'm not knowledgeable on that market but their only competitor seems to be wactor and a few big indies. they'll probably get good numbers due to their strategy of actually advertising themselves but whether that transfers to profitability is another matter entirely

>>55037468
>Any drama about their management or talents?
Once IdolEN took off they axed all but one talent of their main branch and made IdolEN their focus.
Their remaining HE talent dropped the HE and is now just a weird Russian menhera yandere.

>>55039352
I fully buy the theory that the HE branch was a ploy to get Israeli grants

>>55038891
KEK

>>55039352
Katta was the only entertaining one out of that failed branch anyway and everybody knew it.

>>55039421
This has to be true. They even had a video they used to scam the government that was just some guy at a computer copy/pasting a 3D version of the Idol logo into a stock Unreal Engine town. They video claimed they were going to be able to directly inject their talents into video games.

>>55039352
WTF ? you can't make an agency out of people with no streaming experience ???

>>55039721
Why did they hire inexperienced people then?
The only thing that makes sense is they needed just anybody they could get. And only temporarily.

>>55038217
>except for one case of not paying an artist on time
can you even blame them for that though? the artist didn't send them a bill, then sent them a message about it on a weekend, then tried to cancel them on twitter less than 24 hours after she sent them that message because they didn't reply. that whole drama was just a huge advertisement for why hire twitter artists is a terrible idea.

>>55037878
HOLY BASED

>>55039352
2/5 of the original girls are still there. 3 of them quit.

>>55037878
I keep forgetting that Rin is even in Idol. For some reason, my mind wants to lump her in with Phase Connect.

>>55037468
>Is Idol a black corpo?
They're Israeli, the answer to that question should be very obvious.

>>55037613
God bless this faggot for he is based.

>>55037613
dune coons deserve to be segregated

>>55037878
I like that she mostly does short shitpost gimmick streams. Quick and fun and I can fit it in with all the other shit I follow.

>>55037468
stop being a stupid nigger for once

>>55038381
>Rin and Yuko blatantly leeching off of Gura's name past the point of parody via shorts
Did Rin ever mention her beyond a single short? How is that past the point of parody?

>>55037468
The CEO is shady as fuck, possibly a past scammer. The corpo is made of money - but is clearly running at a loss, and no one knows where the money is coming from. Their first Israel branch was half-assed and ended up being a failure, and their announced ES branch is looking very suspect from a business standpoint too.

Bottom of the rumor mill: aside from the usual "literal jews funded by Mossad", there are accusations of them using underhanded promotion tactics - buying bots on YouTube and paying shills on /vt/ to promote them and shit on other small corpos. No proofs tho - and unless I see some, I'm inclined to think it's the usual mix of rrats and dramafags trying to stir shit. Another common rrat is that he's getting the money to run Idol by bullshitting investors out of it.

That aside, their treatment of EN talent actually seems decent enough. No known black corpo shit, no gigayabs, the internal culture seems alright. Talent gets comfy small corpo benefits, like having a solid amount of freedom and getting a character design that's tailored to you. Idol also puts a lot of money into advertisement and a solid amount into merch - which doesn't directly translate to big numbers, but sure helps.

Every corporation is a black corporation.

>>55041093
She has some of that Phase vibe, not gonna lie. Although on paper, Yuko might be a better fit among the Gen 1 yab monsters.

>>55044740
Cover is clean, but every other corpo is a black company.

>Shiorin
>ShioRIN

>>55037613
Fpbp

>>55038012
would you rather be 0view shitters? if it wasn't for that clip of the hololive girls saying nigger in the pandemic they would be no views. believe it or not, they are taking all the right steps to grow from SCRATCH

>>55037468
No. they are a Jewish corpo.

>>55037468
The catalog is full of muslim SEAniggers and /pol/tards. If you think you'll get any answer here other than "HECKIN EVIL JEWS!! SCAM!!" you're retarded.

>>55039352
wtf that's antisemitism

>>55038012
Yeah, they should have put zero money or effort into marketing and exposure and instead die out as 1-2 views like Tsunderia, AkioAIR, etc.

>>55044419
>none knows
everyone know, CEO himself explained that they are funded by investors and they recently completed seed stage and that idol finance is looking good and they are finally in the green. Startups are usually in the in their first year so thats big.

>>55037613
fpbp. Allahu akbar.

>>55049057
>Staying pre-revenue
Always the winning grift.

>>55039352
Thats literally all made up kek.
Only true part is dropping the HE name, which is actually smart

>>55037613
Based
>I denounce the Talmud

>>55037613
fpbp
buy an ad
4chan.org/advertise

>>55037468
mucho texto

>>55037613
Based

>>55037468
is this the one that drank her pee on stream?
do all the new hires have to drink their pee?

>>55037613
BASED

>>55055273
No of course not, she is a prince(ss).

>>55037613
>Apartheid is... LE BAD!!!!!!

>>55055273
>is this the one that drank her pee on stream?
that's the cunny ghost anon

>>55037613
That's actually an interesting reason to not support them.

>>55046890
Ogey doritofan

>>55044419
If they pander good enough to spics, spics will pay with good numbers to attract more investors. That was WACTOR's game, until our stupid CEO killed all the goodwill left from us.
But be sure spics still love to be pandered by foreigners, so just don't mistreat their girls and those numbers will come rolling.

>>55037613

>>55060830
wactor's CEO doxxing his own talents and making them sign disingenuous contracts in a language the girls can't understand is incredibly fucked up,

>>55037613
Giga Based

>>55044419
Could be that it started as a scam for that sweet Israel funding, then their one hit (Rin) brought enough additional funding for them to flip legit. They seems unnaturally chill with what they allow (e.g. editing their prod website on stream), which either screams indie freedom or don't give a shit freedom.

Aside, Rin also mentioned that she thought idol was a scam when they scouted her, so we are not the only ones seeing something fishy here

>>55066842
YouTube shorts don’t make money

>>55067012
I think he means investor funding, which lines up with what their CEO tweeted. Either way, the original branch is mostly dead, so I'm not sure if their sponsor feels the same way about funding them now

>>55037613
/thread

>>55037468
Blacked corpo

>>55044419
KEK
Cuckconnects still mad that Idol did surpass them

>>55037613
BASADO

>>55037468
i dont trust anything from israel.
they have a history of exporting "entrepreneurs" with near unlimited resources to easily carve out spaces in emerging markets and exert more influence over them later.
it probably is a sweet deal for the girls though and i can't really blame them for taking advantage of it.
all im saying is that trusting an israeli startup company is like trusting a bus full of camera carrying chinese tourists requesting a tour of your new factory.

>>55037613
Based except for comparing pissrael to apartheid.
Apartheid was based.

>>55038038
wtf?I will send akasupas now!

>>55037613
Go away

>>55037613
fpbp

>>55037613
fpbp

>>55039352
Nikki is still there, and actually does better numbers than Katta.

>>55067012
that sucks

>>55037613
based and true

>>55037613
Same

>>55037613
Mashallah

>>55037468
Idol will save the ES community

>>55037468
It seems like they're trying to Trojan horse Reddit Sexuality like pronoun shit (Rin) and extreme perversion (Yuko) into vtubing. But beyond that, paid shills, and Israel there's really nothing other than extremely bad vibes.

>>55037613
>Killing mudslimes is LE BAD!

>>55038038
Eh better cause than enlarging Yagoo, Riki or the fishmans bank account

>>55037613
fpbp

>>55046890
This.

>>55039721
>>55039799
My problem with idol is that they are too ambitious. At least, they are giving good results.

>>55037468
some anon compiled 9 pages of shit on them, do reps

>>55038038
based. I will now superchat your oshi

>>55038038
And how is that bad again?

>>55042535
She made a single short months ago and that's it. People here, for whatever reason, have used it against her ever since. The "Rin leeches off gura" narrative has somehow been succesfully astroturfed on this board.

>>55037468
Ever heard of the term "too good to be true?" This is it.

I'll give you a complete overview of some of their actions that can be seen as huge red flags, but only in the eyes of those with higher IQ than the average mindless zoomer on the internet:

1. Prior to the debut of their HE generation, there was a huge document posted /here/ about their CEO running idol as a scam. You can do your reps and you will probably find it, but the TLDR of it is the classic fake entrepreneur over promising investors and under delivering. There were a lot of video proof at the time but they have all since been privated. The author of the post warned about the CEO being /here/ and that it was likely to see self-promoting threads on the catalog, and it's exactly what happened. Out of no where, numerous anons started shilling the corpo despite there being zero English influence or reach before.

2. Reinforcing the first point, upon the debut of their HE generation, they did a ridiculous amount of marketing hyping up the fact that they were "OFFICIALLY SPONSORED BY NINTENDO." This was a huge deal for a new small corpo, so it gained a lot of attention. But it turned out to be a "half truth" where the actual sponsor was just a licensed private distributor of nintendo products (basically your local fucking game shop) in Isreal. This is VERY DIFFERENT from being officially sponsored by nintendo. This is the first red flag of scummy marketing tactics, and dishonesty (this is a key point here), much like other online scammers that you see on Youtube teaching you how to make money on Amazon.

3. Fast forward to idolEN, nothing was done at all to help their HE branch, despite their website claiming to offer MUCH SUPPORT. Some HE talents ended up quitting. Prior to the EN debuts, idol starts shilling on the AWSOME support it provides to their talents on the website and on the CEO's twitter where he posts pictures of mics and playstations that he purchased for the talents. While this may look good to people with negative IQ, it is also something the online scammers do on their instagram or Youtube videos (which works on people with negative IQ). This is red flag #2.

4. Out of nowhere starts preaching "Transparency" on their twitter. Talks about how it will always be transparent. If you are innocent, you don't need to say this. Only those with shit to hide will preach this because it creates the context that everything they say after are all true and implies they are not leaving anything out. But in reality, everything shady is being left out. And without any surprise, it starts to shill itself constantly on twitter about how well it treats its talents both on the official account and the CEO's account. This is another red flag and common practice by online scammers.

5. CEO starts a blog called idol weekly which is basically the ultimate shilling tool where he hires a SEA news writer (do your reps and you will find him) to restructure the same central shilling idea into different versions and repost them week after week. With just a bit of brain power you will realize that there is barely any new information in the weekly blogs. It's the same information being paraphrased over and over to make something sound good. Yet another red flag and common practice by online scammers whose script all read the same and the videos all convey the same meaning without any deeper or different information.

6. Everything idol does is to appease the public and inflate numbers. Massive ad campaigns, sponsoring half the indie scene, the marketed donothons, the constant transparency shilling, the usage of pointlessly big words by a ESL CEO on things like "revolutionary" debut (which was just a massive sponsored watchalong campaign), "roadmap" to success, and more - to make everything sound better than they actually are. All of this is to make itself look good in the eyes of investors - big numbers, big revenue numbers, big foot print. The upcoming idolES is another attempt to get cheap worthless subs that have no revenue potential but leaves a big inflated impression. Once again, this is something equivalent to the online scammers renting lambos and beach side mansions to appear good in videos.

These are just a few redflags that ALL resemble an online scammer, which coincides PERFECTLY with what the initial thread said about the CEO - who is out to scam investor's money.

Don't believe my essay? Pay attention to what they are doing on twitter, and their talents' activities. Talents are doing donobaits after donobaits. They masturbate on stream, drink piss on stream, all take breaks at the same time, and zero company hosted events after almost 2 years. Management is not doing any real managing of the talents but busy hiring SEA writers to write blog posts about how great they are. Spending money on things that inflate their worth, while seeking investors. Obvious scam/rug-pull.

>>55106256
Rin has potential for success. Of course, it will attract resentful people in /vt/.

>>55107148
tl;dr

>>55037613
zased

>>55107282
idol is a scam

>>55107148
Man, I wish Katta would masturbate on stream. Or anyone else besides Yuko.

>>55107148
>They masturbate on stream
Damn bro, link?

>>55107148
Actually observant

idol cured my antisemitism

keep seething phasecucks

>>55107148
Scam or not, you think people will care if it works?

>>55038226
And that's supposed to be a bad thing ?

>>55038891
>is the only reason we've been somewhat relevant the past few months
>we've
Wait...

>>55107148
1. and turned out all the claims there never happened, all the predictions were false like them not planning to debut any talents or to do the minimum.

2. thats half the truth, it wasnt a small store but the official Israeli Nintendo distributor (one out of 3 in the whole world)

3. HE brand earns nothing to idol and they still get them cover songs, asmr mics, and working on a redebut for them something no other corpo did for failed branches.

4. Talents back this up all the time on streams, just watch Rin stream recently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1skjnYRan34&t=5075s

5. no evidence its not written by Aviel

6. idol is doing better than all other small corpos

try harder phaseshill

>>55040151
It wasn't the artist's fault you bag of shit, how many shekels did they pay for you to shit up the actual facts so much?

>>55110295
>artist admits he sent them invoice day before making the twitter post
>artist admits he was already paid before making the twitter post
>artist even suggests publicly followers to work for idol AFTER this incident

Rin Hard carry the IdolEn ... Wishing there is a British Vtuber in HoloEn

>>55037613
/thread

>>55110359
they probably paid them to say that or threatened

>>55037613
Sir this is an American only website

>>55109972
Post nose

>>55038071
What's the deal with her and the ikea tranny sharks?
The spooky ghost girl doesn't disappoint when it comes to her streams, but race-mixing is a sin – unless she's Jewish.

>>55110572
Made up headcannon, be more funny and say its moloch rituals like that other anon

>>55107148
who exactly is getting scammed here? when is the bad stuff actually happening?

>>55111948
I was going to ask that too. Why would I give a crap if investors are scammed of their money? Apart from it not being to some viewer's tastes, how does masturbating on stream equate to being bad? Does it count as a scam if viewers are enjoying their time?

>>55037613
based

>>55112346
>>55111948
The scam is that they are debuting high quality chuubas, listening to community feedback and supporting their talents. Absolutely disgusting, they should learn from other corpos and do nothing.

>>55037613
hope you don't have an Intel CPU or an iphone

>>55112346
>>55112625
You are either a brainlet or paid shills if you can't see the big picture. Just wait until everything crumbles like their OG branch.

>>55113205
how many months do i need to wait?

>>55037613
Based, also same

TWO MORE WEEKS

>>55067012
Yes they do? YouTube shorts pay $3 for every 1k views. Did you really think that people were posting family guy funny moments on YouTube for the fuck of it?

>>55113269
im giving it one year tops or earlier when yuko gets her first yab

>>55113205
Origin is still there. No one cares about whatever the fuck you mean by "big picture."

>>55114358
Yes, because one yab is all an agency needs to fail.

>>55114406
>>55114481
Don't you have a blog post or bragging tweets to write today, Aviel?

>>55041093
>>55044934
She'd definitely go on a 20 minute racist rant about poles or arabs if she was in phase

>>55107148
/thread

>>55115054
I thought a SEAfag was writing those posts.

>>55113833
That's what it says if you type the question into Google (technically it says up to), but if you honestly believe that's what they're getting then you're retarded. If you actually watch videos or read articles on the topic you'll find that most people seem to be reporting RPMs of $0.04 to $0.07 per 1,000 views. So, yes, it's disingenuous to say that they don't make money, but it is far from lucrative.

>>55046890
With Omegatroon and the dogshit management it had until just a few days ago? lol

>>55107148
Anon, you're nooticing too much.

>>55113205
still waiting, been a year and a half. I'm sure they will rug pull any time now

>>55116870
It is when you constantly spam them, rins shorts get 300k-500k views and she has like 200 of these things. And it's not like their growth is just gonna cap out there. Each thousand views these things get is more money and of course it also results in more subscribers which also results in more viewers/vod watchers which results in more money as well.
Shorts are one of the best things YouTube ever did for its content creators

>>55037613
>talmud denounced
based

>>55038226
Tax evasion is my number one goal in life. So good for them.

>>55066842
Most of their talents pull a fuck load of members and donos tbf

>>55037468
>/pcg/ - Phase Connect General
Fixed the thread title for you

>>55037468
The proof of the pudding is in the eating. So far the current talents and management are doing well enough and everything seems to be aboveboard. The only "sketchy" rumors I heard were during idol as a startup where they promised a lot of future projects to investors like a videogame etc. and most of those pie in the sky promises were quietly dropped to focus on the talent management but that is just standard startup business of building up hype for your company to score investors.

>>55107148
1 So no proof? K

2-6 no one is reading that retard, did they scam you? No. okay so show me your investment portfolio before you start crying on the behalf of mystery investors who I am guaranteeing knew exactly what they were singing up for before getting involved, but I guess the basement dwelling nolife knows a better use for their money.

>>55037468
Neither you nor the rest of this board would know a black company if you worked for one, so asking is kinda pointless, innit.

>>55037613
based

>>55120904
NijiEN and WACTOR exist.

>>55037468
>Is Idol a black corpo?
All their talents love being there and management does everything for them, from covering the costs of any games they want to giving them a free 3Dio if they ask.
Yeah, totally seems like a black corp to me.

I wasn’t so sold on the idol shit before but I am now. Look at all these shills coming out the moment someone makes an actual sensible observation.

>>55125822
>Sensible observation
>No proofs given
Just trust me, bro.

>>55119140
>>55109972
>>55068240

Is shitting on phase part of the job requirement to be a shill for idol? Thread is clearly about idol but you fags keep deflecting and shitting on phase, who isn’t even mentioned. This is pathetic. Idol is pathetic.

>>55126124
I did my reps and everything the guy says checks out. The writer is there and also writes for vtuber newsdrop. Look on linked in.

>>55126181
Only if you're a shitposter who doesn't watch either corp. They're friends who had multiple collabs already, the most recent being not even a week ago.
https://youtu.be/Xj9iecLxx-E

>>55126124
It’s an observation based on shit that he and everybody else saw. Are you fucking retarded? Do you know how seeing works?

Posting Fuyo tummy in the black corpo allegations thread!!

>>55126181
>It's okay when phasecucks do it.

>>55125822
>what the fuck people are defending them instead of joining in? That must prove all the accusations are true
Meds please

>>55126378
you're trying to argue with shills

>>55047097
I have a mighty urgy to pinch her erect nipples through her shirt

>>55046890
Cover has probably the worst managers in vtubing history. They're utterly fucking useless.

>>55107148

>>55126283
>My evidence Aviel doesnt writes his own blogs is that once they hired a PR writer who now works for a different company

>entire thread filled with false flagging faggots
a thread died for this

>>55126506
Don't you know? This is a hololive board any discussion that doesn't pertain to hololive being the best there ever was and ever will be and everything else being shit is obviously a shill attempt to convince anons to watch something else for once!

>>55037468
No. Also Rin is a whore.

>>55037468
ALL corpos are black to some extent, simply off the intrinsic fact they are trying to streamline and maximize profits on human beings with different personalities and goals
>Cover over how they treated Coco in particular
>Anycolor over basically everything in the past 2 months in particular
>Wactor just in general
>Idol over questionable tactics and where the money's going
>PRISM over letting their talents rot after the Sony contract
Etc, etc

>>55049057
I guess their goal is market share. Its pretty smart desu, until Gen 3 debuted, Hololive was falling off. Being managed from Japan makes it exceedingly difficult to maintain brand strength long term, since you don't have any infrastructure or PR getting your brand tied into bigger projects.

>>55126475
Literally can't go an idol shill/anti thread without someone either taking shots at phase or claiming "this is all the phasecuck's doing!".
Are idolfags really that insecure?

>>55114358
>first

>>55107148
>Yuko is on break because she’s in Israel getting her chest shit on by Jewish businessmen
It’s Joever

>>55129491
Honestly as a prism fan, they were rotting before the contract.

>catalogniggers don't know the meaning of "black company"

>>55037613
FPBP

>>55037613
Holy based breaker of US law

>>55117729
That's just tiktok but google keeps all the revenue. Most other channels have to do both, shorts for engagement and tiktok to hopefully funnel back youtube channel for streams.

>>55116677
he didn't have a reply for that one kek

sorry, but goldmansach WILL buy your teachers union and have your kids wave the idolen fag flag by 2030

>>55107163
She makes youtube shorts with 1000 edits so zoomer retards cant look away and has to keep making them or her CCV drops dramatically.

>>55113833
My point was they dont make GOOD money and the while the money varies per channel and niche the number you are throwing out is NOT for shorts. Thats for videos on average, shorts make a LOT less. Please know what you are talking about before bringing up family guy funny moments as a reference.
100,000 views is where you will hit 3$

>>55113205
Sure schizo, the fans will come crawling back to Phase after idol collapses!

>>55138683
I'd rather watch nijisanji than phase.

>>55137376
as I understand it the returns are shit, but still an order of magnitude better than tiktok for the same view count. But yeah, it's the engagement that really counts with them

>>55055754
JEW

>>55044934
i don't follow idol, qrd? i thought she was really safe considering she was advertised as le gura killer for so long by shills

>>55037468
no

>>55133258
I’m a casual watcher, what’s rotting in PRISM aside from pic related’s food?

>bumps his own thread off page 10 for literally the 20th time

>>55037613
Anon is Palestinian

>>55037613
Based

>>55037468
I'm gonna be real, I watched Yuko for a bit because I like ghosts, drew some fan art of her, but stopped when she streamed a shitty 2hu fangame and kept talking about hentai doujins

>>55107148
Just like the CEO, the fans don’t care either. Also, I wish the masturbation streams were real, that sounds cool as fuck.

I wish more people supported products from Israel.

>>55037613
fpbp. We must defend vtubing and Japan from the Jew.

>>55037468
>Is Idol a black corpo?
shady but not black

>>55037468
I legit dont know anything about jew vs muslim or israel vs palestine or whatever
Foreign politics is such a massive headache, why is anyone supposed to care about it in a hobby like vtubing?
Even if you live in an affected area that's part of the conflict, why bring it into vtubing? Nobody who ever watched hololive or even nijisanji or vshojo thought that's what vtubing would ever be about

I dont know much about Idol but if it's going to purposefully take sides and step into that politically controversial topic then I dont know why it should if its supposed to be a VTUBING agency

>>55146027
It's just a case of nothing ever happens.
There's not really anything to be excited about. It took 2 years for them to get a new outfit....

>>55138095
I dunno anon according to Google you can earn literally up to 3 dollars per 1k views. There literally is a reason why people spam clips from Rick and Morty and family guy along with subway surfers and 6 part reddit stories on shorts.
It pays

>>55146162
This thread should really just get deleted

>>55155935
>they shouldn't do something they aren't doing
thanks for the input retard

>>55155935
I doubt it. You can't talk about politics in the girls' chat.

>>55157353
Thats not for shorts you fucking idiot.

>>55148622
Same, anon. Katta and Nikki should do those together.

>>55146027
Sony...

>>55037468
>Is Idol a black corpo?
theyre saving the Wactor girls

>>55037468
possibly

>>55146162
I thought you can't bump your own threads.

>>55155935
All this thread has done has made me want to superchat more to help fund the end of this Arab sperging out over not being given one piece of land after the Ottoman Empire was conquered like they wasn't given 97% of it with all the oil that made them super wealthy.

The only reason they are in the situation they are in now is because they kept trying to win militarily until they no longer could and now they invoke an old name to claim land. What if the British occupation called that bit mandatory Canaan? Would they be saying Free the Canaanites?

The fantasy they created that this was Arab land and then a bunch of Jews showed up with super weapons and drove them all out one day is hilarious.

>>55165848
Whack , guess there must be some other feature called shorts I wasn't aware of

>>55037613
fpbp

>>55099306
You're so close.

>>55187265
Up to is not the average. The only shorts paying that much would be in the finance category. The average is a lot lower.

>>55099306
Support your Palestinian Christian brothers, anon. Don't fall for propaganda of Israelis.

>>55037468
no

>>55037468
No

>>55183842
True.

>>55037613
Sandpeople hands typed this.

>>55107148
This anon has been living in /vt/ for too long.

>>55037613
fpbp

>>55188602
I didn't say average. I said shorts can earn you up to $3 per 1k views and you told me I was lying

>>55137942
She stopped shorts weeks ago and she still retains over 1K CCV

>>55201169
I hope she resumes them. I like her shorts honestly

>>55037468
For the final time, no.

>bumps his own thread off page 10 for literally the 30th time

>>55203374
Yes

>>55201367
Rincels have been saying that the shorts audience have been shitting up chat.

>>55114358
Nobody gives a shit about Yuko. Rin the face of the company.

>>55037613
Based.

>>55037613
fpbp

jidf cope is pathetic

>>55207353
Please kill yourself

>>55047097
It all makes sense now

>>55207353
How so?

>>55114358
>first

>>55037613
Based
>>55037468
TJD

>>55037613
Very based

It sure is a blacked company

i dont see a lot of drama like nijishitji so they seem to be ok. But I guess niji cant help it because they just throw spaghetti on the wall and see who sticks, everyone else gets axed for random reasons.

Yes moving on

>>55037613
good man

>>55204897
Not surprising honestly. The shorts expose her to a larger audience which in turn brings in new people and they don't know chat etiquette obviously.
It's always a mixed bag when your oshi starts getting bigger

>>55223227
got you

>>55207353
Elaborate? Your post is hard to understand

>>55155935
People are political, anon, there's no way of getting around that. Therefore, corpos are political as well. Sure, the current standard by which most corpos act is that they pretend to have a politics free, neutral, veneer to them, because most customers are like you: just want to grill. Nonetheless, corpos are political all the time through their actions: Hololive pulling out of the PRC is political, Phase Connect turning a blind eye to their menhera breadwinners is political, Idol being Israeli is political. Not wanting to care about these things is effectively letting someone else who does care make the decisions for you.

Maybe

>>55037468
no

>>55231405
Yes