/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Shiori's autism spectrum is on the deeper end compared to Mumei's.

>>54998695
One has autism the other one is just unmedicated.

>>54998695
both are le quirky le random le subversive tumblr girls, into the trash they go.

I can fix both

>>54998695
They both are really dime a dozen in their respective archetypes which are nerdy goth menhera fujo/yumejo with weird upbringing for Shiori and socially stunted college white girl with mental problems for Mumei. Shiori likely is legit autistic and her archetype is less represented in western vtubing though, so she's better.

>>54998733
Ticking time bomb

>>54998695
face value version of answer : Shiori
correct answer : Orcschizo

People didn't doubt Mumei was Orcschizo because this girl actually had lots of personality

Mumei is a pretty normal girl all things considered, but people tend to pin a lot of weird stuff on her simply because she's kinda quiet. Shiori plays up her weirdness a lot, but I do think she's definitely weirder than most people in HoloEN. (Not menhera or anything though. She's just a pretty legit yumejo with obvious /here/ ties.)
Fauna is also pretty weird, but she masks it better than anyone else. (Shiori doesn't even attempt to mask it.)

>>54998695
Gura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXi0I_QZfmY

Love my autistic wife!

>>54998695
Moom is scatter brained
So her autism is all over the place and unfocused

Shiori has her brain in one piece
So she can concentrate her autism on singular topics

Like I expect moom to have a 3 hour zatsudan and end up talking about 100 different topics but all with minor autism
I expect Shiori to have a 3 hour zatsudan on her favorited steam train and ONLY the one train.

>>55000881
You haven't been watching Shiori's streams, have you? She bounces around all the time (and I do not just mean her chest) and while she does eventually come back to the original topic you have to expect a lot of tangents.

>>55001041
Yeah, she kinda reminds me of Kiara with the layered tangents.

>>54998695
Shiori has a bolder personality and is thus wierder (I love her).

>>54998695
Mumei is just a normal girl that gets "intrusive thoughts" and learnt that she will get a good reaction from chat if she lets them out.
Shiori is one of those truly weird people that despite their best efforts to appear normal, still come off as weird. I knew 2 people like her in my life and their biggest problem is that they are weird in EVERY aspect of their life. They only talk about parts of their life other people know and had a positive reaction to. Once she gets comfortable and lets all her weirdness loose, you will see that she is still hiding her true power level. Enjoy the ride, I know I will.

>>55001923
>despite their best efforts to appear normal, still come off as weird
Come on now, she doesn't even try to hide it. And to be perfectly honest, she's leaning pretty deep into kayfabe to maintain that image.
I'm loving it though so you'll hear no complaint from me. I just don't think she's actually that strange. (Though it all depends on your point of view of course.)

I can fix both of them with my dick

>bait thread
>no one who watches Mumei joins in
Based, keep it up

>>54998695
Mumei is simply a generic white woman who tries to be """weird""" sometimes because she has no interesting personality traits. Shiori's biology stream was more interesting than anything Mumei has produced in two whole years.

>>55002657
I mean, anyone who watches both knows that it’s simply two different flavors, with the biggest difference being that Shiori is able to articulate her weird thoughts while Mumei struggles to string together a coherent sentence. The point of the thread is to use one to trash the other for being more “normal” by some arbitrary definition.

>>55002943
>Mumei struggles to string together a coherent sentence
Wrong,

>>55002657
Moom LOVE
Shiori LOVE
HoloEN LOVE

>>54998695
Shiori is putting WAY more effort into it. It feels like she's trying to fit a character, especially since she first debuted. Mumei's weirdness was revealed over months. So Mumei is the more natural weird person

>>55004901 (me)
>first debuted
just* debuted
gomen, nihonshu oishii desu ne

>>54998695
Mumei is autistic in the cute funny way.
Shiori is just a nutjob.

>>55004901
Anon, that's legitimately what autism on deeper end of the spectrum looks like with Shiori.
She almost definitely has ADHD with how easily she jumps from topic to topic. Her entire thing about pacing thousands of steps is another sign of ADHD.
It's almost guaranteed that she doesn't take ADHD meds for her streams so she can play it up for entertainment factor.

Anyone who says Shiori has never watched Mumei. Mumei literally spat out her food and ate it pretending to be a dog.

>>55005076
You've literally known her for a debut and 2 streams. Calm down. You don't even know her

>>55004901
What exactly is so weird about Mumei anyway? To me she always appears like a pretty ordinary girl. (In a good way.) Sure, she draws some macabre art and allows herself to talk about weird stuff, but part of that seems to be similar to Shiori, that she's leaning into the persona that has been cultivated. (It just took Mumei longer to find her niche, while Shiori has clearly planned for this.)

>>55005076
Autism isn't the same as ADHD. Also, the pacing is specifically for exercise. She walks around in a circle inside her home counting steps in order to keep healthy. It's definitely a pretty strange thing to do, but it's not because she just can't help herself.

>>55005174
How old was she when she did this?

>They don't know ADHD is bullshit.

Mumei

At first you think she's just a white girl trying to be interesting by hitting you with spongebob references and her fetish for dog dick, but then she starts telling you about all the times she failed to order food because she was terrified of the fast food guys or forgetting how to dress herself or drinking coffee out of a plate because she forgot where the cups are and then you realize there actually is something going on with her but you can't quite place it.

Shiori is just a normal nerd.

>>55000496
People pin weird stuff on mumei because she's there in her own world and then she tells you about the time she forgot to buy food so she decided to eat her dog's food instead because all the stores were closed and she didn't want to go to mcdonalds, or whatever. When the life tales about herself are all "haha but why?"-tier things you realize she's a weird chick pretending to be a normal chick pretending to be a weird chick.

Fauna isn't weird, she knows weird stuff but recites it like a curiosity, she's not a conspiracy theory schizo but she finds their rants to be very interesting.

>>55005393
>What exactly is so weird about Mumei anyway?
The best example was that story with her mom
>mother owl cooks for Mumei
>Mumei hates it and orders ubereats without telling her mom
>Mumei tells this story as if it's normal behavior to do so

>>55006605
mother owl...

>>55006022
NO

YOU NEED TO TAKE METH BECAUSE YOUR PARENTS DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH YOU BEING LOUD AND RUNNING AROUND

YOU CAN'T JUST SAY IT'S "NOT REAL" AFTER PERMANENTLY HAVING YOUR BRAIN FRIED AS A KID, THINK OF THE POOR PHARMACEUTICALS AND YOUR PARENTS TELLING YOU THEY DID THEIR BESTEST

This thread seems to be a gathering of our local armchair psychologists. Keep it up.

>>55002637
I don't want to fix them, I want them to break me with seggs

>>55006935
Arigato Shiori-sensei

Time traveler here, everyone is eating the Shoom ship.

>>55006559
I guess I just feel that I've done much weirder things and I just expect everyone else to do them too in secret. So to me, Mumei is just normal, except for sharing it with the rest of the world. (But she's also an entertainer and her audience loves it. Nobody would send me money for talking about my weird quirks.)

>>55006605
Am I being trolled? Isn't this an entirely normal thing to do?

>>55007646
no not really

>>55007646
It’s the type of story you’d find in a book about dealing with autistic children.

>>55000612
I went to the beach with some friends recently; one of them ate a fucking mcburger in the shower and almost choked on it.

>>54998695
Mumei is autistic in a somewhat manageable way while shiorin seems like an abnormal person who would struggle to live a normal life

>>54998695
I love both of them because they're weird.

>>55002125
>Come on now, she doesn't even try to hide it.
But what if this IS her trying to hide if. What if what we've seen is only the tip of the iceberg?

Why do Hoomans insist that Mumei has autism and act like it's a badge of honor? Why do they like to remind everyone that she has definitely for sure has autism? Is "did you know my oshi has autism" a personality trait?

>>55009844

>>54998695
Mumei "El OWLO" is
>voicing not only herself but also gura and vesper
>cant even do domino

>>55007646
Anon you should treat your mother better.

>>55009844
[My oshi] Haha. She acts silly, so has autism and is quirky, that's funny
[Not my oshi] Ugh, she's fucking stupid and it's not autism. So annoying

>>55010136
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What are your pronouns?

>>54998733
Not even APA. Disgusting.

>>55010727
>image gets reposted on an imageboard
You should write a paper about this discovery

>>54998695
*blocks your path*

>>55010238
It was windy

>>55011034
>repeated shit posts with said image
Damn, you're right. What a coincidence.

>>55001923
She is just like me frfr. I get so autistic with my friend even when I realize he probably doesn't care about it.

>>55001923
>Mumei is just a normal girl that gets "intrusive thoughts" and learnt that she will get a good reaction from chat if she lets them out.
No. Hoomans insist that she has autism in every thread, so it must be true

>>55007646
Just say her food is shit and she shouldn't cook for you(but in a subtle soft way)

>>55011528
It was aliens!

>>55011624
She's not autistic, she's a shy introvert with ADHD

>>54998695
They are both pretending to be weird eugh.

>>55011908
See, I can agree with that. But some of you guys legitimately believe she's autistic. I mean come on.

Mumei is autistic (real)

>>55012476
its mostly a /who/ meme.

>>55011908
I mean...she might have autism and just hasn't said so publicly cause it's embarrassing. ADHD and autism have a high correlation

>>55012476
Anon what makes you think she couldn't be? People with autism aren't necessarily completely nonfunctional
People say she's autistic based on her actions and stories which sound like that of an autistic person. It's not unheard of for people with autism to get jobs in entertainment and there are already other girls in Holo that have it

>>55012476
Because you don’t want to believe she has it and instead think it’s some nefarious conspiracy by Hoomans to trick everyone.

>>55012978
>>55012665
So which is it?

>>55012476
The fact that you're so mad about this is, ironically, pretty autistic

>>55005393
>bringing up her art
Are you some debut toursist that flew in after 2 years? The art isn't why people think she's weird that's just a debut meme. People think she's weird because she talks all the time about not eating, or not sleeping, or not socializing with other people, and the stories that involve these 3 constants

A collab between the two is now mandatory to see who can break the other.
The world is not ready.

>>55013092
Well, you seem inordinately mad at the mere suggestion she might have autism, so whether it’s a meme is irrelevant.

>>55013505
My brain hasn't recovered from the recent Gura and Mumei collab but yeah that's a must

>>55013505
What are they going to do?

>>55013513
>>55013162
>you seem inordinately mad
Nothing I've written suggests I'm mad. If anything you seem more aggitated at the fact I brought up this topic. I'm not trying to "gotcha" or anything, not everyone behind the keyboard is an angry person, Anons. But you're reading into it that way so I can't change your mind. I'm curious why Hoomans like to push the autism gimmick when she's clearly not autistic but just silly, shy and struggles to make up her mind like what >>55011908

>>55014335
Autism is a spectrum, anon.

>>55013505
Shiori is the one that's weird from minute 1.

Mumei is the one that lets you get confident then stabs you with a chainsaw.

Truly a fight for the ages.

>>54998733
When your oshi stalks you and not the other way around

>>55014379
And where on this spectrum is Mumei confirmed to be?

>>54999559
What a blatant nijifag take. Did you get tired of your dead corpo faggot?

>>55014496
Somewhere in the X-Rays.

>>54998695
Has Shiori killed a woman just for not having a face?

>>55014335
>I’m not mad, you are!
You’re not making a good case for yourself here.

>>55014335
you came in this thread to pick a fight, don't act innocent now

>>55014580
i've been here (and by "here" i mean the entire website, not just this godforsaken board) for far longer than you, nigger. you better get used to people not liking your trash.

>>55000496
Fucking niggers, this thread is actually de-antifying me more than the goth gf thirst threads

>>55014897
Nijinigger still thinks his words have validity here

Shut the fuck up and crawl back to your corpo hellhole, faggot

>>55006935
sauce pls

Mumei has normal interests but acts weird.
Shiori has weird interests but acts normal.