/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>54987077
>JP will get something special because they actually work hard unlike EN and ID
Wow how fucking unfair.

Thank god

>>54987211
The only person who can play mobas relatively well on the ID side is Kaela. Kobo is fucking shit at them, and even ignoring that it's a totally different game with a totally different meta they'd have to relearn

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>oh boy I know the meidos hate this, let me make a thread with this as the image
>gets fucking deleted
Literally what else did they expect

Is the janny seriously STILL pissing himself over this? Really?

fucking niggermods
anyways
https://twitter.com/StreetFighterJA/status/1686591672745086978

beautiful coverage mountain tonight, with a peak of 68k

History is written by the victors.

Some day 2 numbers of advent debut week for EN

>>54987423
welcome to the mountaintop motherfucker

Pendings cocksleeve is already struggling to hit 20k without a raid
Fucking kek next she'll be collabing with vshojo friends and holostars

>>54987364
>inviting people who literally already know how to play the game and no lifed to the highest rank 2 years ago
Is not "they practice NOW to get good".

>>54987407
Yes, for some reason he still has his job

>>54987423
higher than yesterday btw

>>54987336
Recent clip numbers
>>54893015
>>54893065
>>54893103
>>54893131
>>54893161
>>54893215
>>54893245

>>54987423
Welcome to the mountaintop

>>54986686
>>54986600
I don’t know about bothered but with her being excited to do collabs both spontaneously and event ones there’s definitely a difference bts besides en3 existing. Technically they should’ve still had the power to do that last year but they stopped outside of rust which had it’s own chat

>>54987417
Only 4 people? Is this a collab or some kind of event?

After 2 years of grim, we're finally free

>>54987417
KEK

>>54987417
at least post the translation. ad stream?

>>54987077
I wouldnt count the ID out just yet since they have people with experience with moba and one of them professionaly

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>148,555: Miko (Hololive)
>71,754: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>58,200: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>53,382: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>48,305: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>35,511: Pekora (Hololive)
>30,632: Lize (Nijisanji)
>27,667: Suisei (Hololive)
>26,631: Hal (Neo-Porte)
>26,316: Bijou (Hololive)
>24,966: Shiori (Hololive)
>23,071: Gura (Hololive)
>21,007: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,806: Nerissa (Hololive)
>17,440: IRyS (Hololive)
>17,238: Subaru (Hololive)
>16,724: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>15,239: Kaede (Nijisanji)
>15,140: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,514: Patra (Indie)
>13,387: Watame (Hololive)
>11,831: Chiroru (Indie)
>11,207: Debi (Nijisanji)
>10,987: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,533: Kanae (Nijisanji)

>>54987436
shiori.png

>>54987417
What's this?

Can't wait for advent to get 1 million subs faster than council

Oh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWU3o_kDixc [Embed]
Nerissa's cover has pulled ahead of Fuwamoco's cover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr1EI_jYBB8 [Embed]
It's gonna be interesting to see which of these hits 1m fist.
(Yes, I'm reposting this from the deleted thread, I don't know why I bothered since I KNEW it was gonna get whacked).

damm too many schizos at EN hours
https://twitter.com/StreetFighterJA/status/1686591672745086978
Kososan shilling SF, viewer participation

https://twitter.com/envtubersooc/status/1686601727376592896

This girl is very clippable, got a feeling this is gonna go viral

>>54987535
>AUGUST 2023 GOLDS
1) Miko (Hololive) - 148,555 - Anniversary 3D Live

>PER COMPANY
1x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: Miko

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
150x: Hololive
47x: Nijisanji
7x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
51x: Pekora
20x: Miko
16x: Marine
8x: Subaru
7x: Toya
6x: Kuzuha
5x: Suisei
4x: Aqua, Hal, Hololive, Shiina, Towa, Yashiro
3x: Chiroru, Iroha, Leos, Mio, Nijisanji, Okayu, Koyori
2x: Aki, Fubuki, Fuwa, Hinano, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Nerumero, Salome, Watame
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Flare, Fuwamoco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ibrahim, Ina, Kaede, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Lize, Maimoto, Mel, Mito, Mori, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Roco, Ryushen, Shion, Tsukasa, Ui

>>54987436
Who's Victor?

>>54987492
They're all on separate days so they seem to just be different things

>>54987423
lol i was just about to post this
68k vs 65k, an increase vs yesterday with more non-advent streams, more overlap but less buff advent streams
next time chart anon posts the 30 days rolling average grim gang will be atomized

>>54987423
Shitposters here keep bitching about muh overlapping, but there's no way to reach these numbers without it. Absolutely beautiful

>>54987543
>>54987519
looks like a viewer participation stream

>>54987492
They're not even doing a collab, they're all separate streams at different times

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>8/1 DAILY TALLY
26,316: Bijou (Hololive)
24,966: Shiori (Hololive)
22,898: Gura (Hololive)
18,182: Nerissa (Hololive)
17,440: IRyS (Hololive)
16,724: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
9,896: Mysta (Nijisanji)
9,747: Fauna (Hololive)
6,234: Kronii (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR AUGUST 2023
1) Bijou (Hololive) - 26,316 - American Truck Simulator

>PER COMPANY
1x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: Bijou

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
5p: Bijou
3p: Shiori
1p: Gura

>>54987602
Me

>>54987601
>>54987535
At least use niigo Miku you shit taste faggot.

>>54987602
Me

>>54987482
Well, we KNOW management has been shuffled/fired out of a canon, so yea that definitely helps for sure. Gura basically has her mits on both Jap and Jenma now, which probably does wonders for her morale since she has people that will ACTUALLY LISTEN to her if she needs to talk to em about something, whereas before
>Makes fun of you over perms
>Ignores you and cockblocks your shit
>Dumps a bunch of useless garbage instead of a new gen of girls on the EN scene
The difference is night and day, and I'm not surprised at the change in her mood.

>>54987582
who cares I only want to DANCE DANCE DANCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYNYhSsR8EE

>>54987582
yeah lesbo circle doing their reps on nerissa's cover and it's great desu

>>54987593
Cuck

>>54987654
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
154x: Hololive
55x: Nijisanji
3x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
21x: Fauna
20x: Mori
18x: Gura
16x: IRyS, Mumei
13x: Baelz, Ina, Kronii
10x: Amelia
9x: Kiara, Mysta, Vox
4x: Pomu, Selen, Shu
3x: Nina, Ren
2x: Alban, Bijou, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Luca, Yu
1x: Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, FuwaMoco, Luxiem, Millie, Petra, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper, Vezalius

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
211p: Fauna
161p: Ina
154p: Mori
143p: IRyS
133p: Mumei
121p: Baelz
101p: Kronii
92p: Gura
85p: Kiara
83p: Amelia
77p> Mysta
74p: Vox
61p: Luca
37p: Shu
31p: Selen
25p: Pomu
24p: Nina
19p: Ike
16p: Ren
15p: Enna, Fulgur
14p: Sonny, Uki
13p: Finana, Millie
11p: Axel
10p: Alban, Bijou, Elira, Hololive English, Yu
9p: Vesper
7p: Regis, Shiori
6p: Rosemi, Vezalius
5p: Flayon, FuwaMoco, Luxiem, Petra, Roca
4p: Magni, Vantacrow
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Kotoka, Nerissa, Poko
1p: Kyo, Maria, Meloco, Shinri, Pippa

>>54987423
Cover is trying to paint a giant green dildo on the investor report for Q3

Hey guys is the whole pending thing with shiori a schizo rrat or is there actual evidence?

>>54987625
People have a scarcity mindset where there's a set, limited number of fans to go around, when what really needs to be happening is all of the girls growing and attracting new viewers to the box.

So who's getting the gold today? any contenders to beat Fuwa?

>>54987449
is pokemon really that hard? then again i often feel like these girls are barely literate.

>>54987423
these numbers won't last forever, enjoy your brief spotlight while you can

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGWeSfeKhhI
Aqua will be the first chuuba to cover the All-back sequel.

>>54987689
>524k
Nice, it's coming along and should hit 1m sooner rather than later.

So Pekora is also a participant, she just got put in the center just because Cover can

>>54987741
At the end of the day there's a moba and it has a meta. The only real metagame shifts this particular game has is what bullshit pokemon they released

>>54987449
it's fucking unite anon, not dota2. incredibly low skill ceiling.

>>54987732
What part.

Old days Nijifags: Why aren’t you watching Nijis, you Holokeks
Modern Nijifags: Why do you tolerate wrong vtuber history, you Holokeks

For this particular reason Nijifags never feel like a winner over Holofags despite they are both faggots. Almost feels like woke women demanding men to do something for them. While men want nothing to do with woke women.

I think when Advent finally settles on slots that the Twins should camp the abandoned Lamyslot to grab JOPs on their lunch breaks.

>>54987396
For the jannies to grow thicker skin and stop being babies

FIRE, FIRE, LIGHT THE FIRE

>>54987602
>shiori~n

>crowd noise bg in Miko 3dlive..
fucking hell they haven't learned anything??? so annoying

>>54987733
Yeah because most of this thread has only ever seen nijisanji dig themselves deeper into a hole with each new debut for two years and forgot that that's not how it works normally

2022....was a depressing year...

>>54987809
garbage fans from a garbage company what do you expect

>>54987827
Then you're either a newfag, a retard, or worse then either, a dumbass

>>54987686
Huge difference from March
>I have list of games I asked the perms guy for
Now
>There’s so much games to choose from I don’t know what to try first

>HOLOLIVE ALGORITHM
>HOLOLIVE GARDEN
>HOLOLIVE MINDSHARE
>HOLOLIVE BOX
>HOLOLIVE DOMINATION

>>54987624
>>54987625
got literal chills this is a baby holoJP mountain, large base with gentle up and down, still missing the punch through of big streams in primetime to go even beyond and emulate the absolute peaks of 21-22 JST

>>54987862
2022 mistakes are being dealt with don't worry

>>54986547
Does this confirm Kaela is poor man's HoloEN?

How did we even survive 2022?

rrat: the only reason Gura doesn't endorse Advent wholesale is Shiori's upcoming act of betrayal. So she just stays quiet instead of praising the good ones and looking like shes playing favorites

>>54987892
Imagine what HoloEN could have achieved if they had competent management leadership during the Myth boom era
Instead they had to do every-fucking-thing themselves

All of 3 Shiori's post debut streams are glorified zatsus, does this bitch not play vidya games?

>>54987911
It won't last forever
freaking delusional holo en keks
its a freaking debut week buff

>>54987809
maybe just maybe the second one isn’t that

New bread
>>54987598
>>54987598
>>54987598
Time to take
HOLOLIVE BOARD
HOLOLIVE THREAD
seriously.

Wait does Shoiri do ASMR or no?
Why are people dead set on asking Fauna for advice if she does? It seems counterintuitive.

>>54987862
You need to go through the hard times for the good times to feel good, anon

>>54987396
Just because you're a janny doesn't mean you're free from shitposting, especially in this case where he's clearly abusing his rights to delete stuff he doesn't like while letting threads that do break the rules stay up

>>54987423
And faggots kept saying the EN scene was dying. Motherfucker HoloEN IS the EN scene, and the moment Cover decided to debut a bunch of faggots instead of more girls was exactly when the scene started dying.

>Ina, Mori, Bae offcollab
>7.5k
>Gura Mumei collab
>23k
Genuinely, what makes Gumei so much stronger than others?

>>54987892
Yea, I mean with how they ran things, having someone run game perms as a secondary part of their job (by the sounds of how things went) to what's probably a dedicated perms/outside comms guy is night and day regarding getting perms.

>>54987987
Kill yourself

>>54987874
Nijiseethe

>>54987979
The overlaps has shown there is wide spread of fanbase, not counting Gura's core.
Very promising.

>>54987792
oh it's a moba. yeah new players usually get crushed at those.

>>54988006
Yeah I definitely agree that if the dude wants to stomp on shitposts, he should be stomping on the more egregious shit first.
But also, just, intentionally antagonizing someone is only ever gonna go in a way that doesn't benefit you, y'know? Not like, you specifically, but the general "you."

>>54987862
It all went wrong in July, it was a pretty fun year before that.
But anyway, that's all the past now. We can forget everything that happened and move on, focusing on the Hololive girls like Gura said.

>>54987874
grow a thicker skin, nijitranny meido

>>54987993
Shiori did a bunch of ASMR before but it's not like she's that good at it. Fauns's thing IS ASMR so it never hurts to ask

>>54987979
>freaking
Mad because mommy won't let you swear on the internet yet

>>54987969
The new leadership with council made things worse so I’ll take incompetence over malice

>>54988025
Meme pairing buff.

>>54987987
>How to kill /#/ faster

>>54988130
I really feel bad for Council.

>>54988157
>faster
It's growing, retard

>>54988178
To be clear, that retard's thread ain't growing shit, I meant this thread

>>54987986
wdym? theyve been trying to do that shit way before en3

>>54987979
>Posts like a bvtm faggot

>>54987969
Omegatranny and his band of retards has been disastrous for hololive

>>54987364
The JPs got schooled in the Mario tournament by fucking Irys who had barely played a few weeks before, they don't have some kind of special power.

Is ID4 still worth it?

>>54988025
Both get it each other on a spiritual level and both have never attacked their fans. That was in short supply before en3 with only 3/10

>>54987969
>Myth era with Advent-Era management
Gods stop, I can only get so hard.
At the same time, it's wishful thinking since we only got what we have through the trial and error of Myth/Council. That being said, 2022 was a terrible year for EN and I wish the lessons didn't need to be learned the way they did.

>>54987987
Rope, tourist.

>>54988097
>just, intentionally antagonizing someone
Dude are you new to 4chan? Intentionally antagonising people is pretty much how it goes around here. Like, shit, half the boards we have are the result of anons intentionally antagonising people until they get given their own board. /tg/ split off from /b/ back during warhammer Wednesdays, /jp/ got split of from /a/ due to touhou and idols pissing off /a/, /mlp/, etc etc

>>54988213
Pretend I repeated myself

>>54988025
>Mori
Mori is a debuff nearly on par with chimken nowadays thanks to everything she's done. She completely deserves it though, dumb bitch.

>>54987944
thats just kaela chumbies that latched to her after the mc collab

>>54987754
They will continue to be better than anyone else.

>>54988260
In a way, if you think about it, maybe this was all for the best.
Second-half 2022 was such a clear, blatant disaster that they had a massive management shakeup and now everything is much better. If things had just been normal-grim instead of despair-grim, we might still be under the old regime.

People were doomposting Ame's karaoke numbers but she ended up beating the Mori/Bae/Ina collab kek

>>54987732

>HistoryIsWrittenByTheVictors.png
>Blocked for "off topic"
>Shiorin isn't a vtuber now
Eagerly awaiting your ban of everyone talking about gen 3 on the entire board, janny.

>>54988025
>what makes Gumei so much stronger than others?
- not supporting homo
- yab resistant
- Gura is one of a kind thus should be an invalid target for comparison
- sadly Bae is just boring. Mori is cringe but at least she is cringe in a less hypnotizing manner compared to Bae. Mori is related to music too

>>54987862
But the COVID numbers...

>>54987806
part about him being her bf.

>>54988402
im out of the loop, why are they mad about the quote?

>>54986600
I don't think it'd be the collabs themselves but more so how the unicorn girls were just completely left out.
It's like how we pointed out back then how Mori and Kronii were barely collabing with other girls at that point. I'm sure something like the worms tournament which was 3 weeks of collabs every weekend would make the girls not participating not exactly feel thrilled

>>54987423
Now they just need to make that mountain wider
I'm interested to see if an EU audience in YT is possible
Those timeslots are "dominated" by the likes of Watame and Kaela right now

>>54988025
highly anticipated collabo, timeslot, holoEN overlap and myth overlap, 4 members were in 3 different streams at the same time, Gura ch vs Mori ch.

>>54987423
beautiful, the legendary tower of babel... to reach the gods...

>>54988286
That's a different kind of thing, anon. Those are all antagonizing someone by the fact that you exist, which then causes boards to be made. Like how we exist because the mere existence of Vtubers antagonized /jp/ old hats so much that they had to excise us before they mass-went to Gensokyo.
But like, PERSONALLY antagonizing, like the retards that try and go after specific meidos or jannys, that doesn't get you things, nine times out of ten. It just kind of turns you into another one of the turbo retards, like... whatever his name was on /a/ that ruined Madoka discussion, drawing a blank at the moment, but you know what I'm talking about, I think.

>>54988401
OH NONONONO NIJIJANNY. Hes off topic!

>>54988433
Niji-Jannie mod abuse, how do I stop this?

>>54988401
if they just collabed before idgaf it was indie time I expect that. collabing with him in Hololive is a different matter.

>>54988038
>>54988157
>>54988278
Salamat pagi to you too.

Fauna should graduate for her shit Numbers. She was a waiting room and still couldn't hit 10k with a completely empty slot.

>>54988433
She didn't put Niji in her vtuber history video and someone made that pic just to mess around. Wouldn't be posted nearly as much if the meido didn't have a melty over it, ironically.

>>54988025
Mori talks with people like they are retard

>>54988377
holy kek. mori debuff and rest debuts are too strong

so, it will be like this:
Kiara Nerissa Collab (idk idol talk or something)
Gura FuwaMoco Collab (BAUBAU)
Ame Shiori Collab (observing and maybe eating bugs)
Bijou... I hope she won't get roped by Mori

>>54988453
>EU audience in YT is possible
twins doing morning show+gem starting early to track the whole day+kiara+takotime+fst is already a huge investment in the market

>>54988017
>Lock someone in a closet with no food and beat them whenever they ask to be let out
Why are they so unhealthy? They were probably going to die anyway! Look at how thin they are and they're all covered in bruises!

>>54988433
>shitpost gets made
>people laugh
>dude starts trying to make it into the OP image
>meido/janny deletes the file, whatever
>the guy gets upset about it and starts pushing the image more and more
>now it's an authority-issue kind of thing so the meido/janny just deletes on sight and assumes anyone posting it is just trying to get a rise out of them (tbf that's the main reason people do post it)

>>54988488
Management would be retarded to allow it. Let her do it on her RM but dont defile the sanctity of Hololive after they've just started restoring it

>go into the split of a Myth/Council
>make a few posts so my IP doesn't look new
>make a post about how the Myth/Council has faltered/doesn't want to improve/lazy/don't love her anymore and how I'm moving on to the Advent most like her
>go into split of said Advent
>ask if they will accept a former fan of previous Myth/Council oshi
>collect (You)s
It really is that simple lads

>>54988563
Bijou probably going to kaela for minecraft

I'm watching Shiorin's vod and why do I hear Selen in her voice sometimes

>>54988488

>>54988433
bro janny just want to join the fun

>>54988563
Sadly anon all these girls will be forced to Collab with Mori at least once, you just know she will find a way to do that

>>54988519
>Calling you a retard means we're Nijifags.
I was too kind telling you to rope.

oh nononono she got nijisister audience

>Myth and councilrys are somewhat stagnant after EN3
>but Kaela is somehow inclining
What make Kaela able to get EN3 boost whereas the rest of EN couldn't?

>>54988364
It's horrible to think about it but we really needed a near-catastrophic failure in HoloEN for Cover to finally clean the house and get rid of the shitters they hired back when they didn't expect the branch to be much bigger than HoloID. Tempiss will forever be the cursed inheritance of that era but at least the branch is now focused on the girls and not the disgusting egos of incompetent staff members.

>>54988025
>Ina,Mori,Bae offcollab
Since when was it an offcollab?

>>54988401
So he didn’t close the deal?….. so what’s the issue?

Holocucks getting to ahead of themselves lol
Half their branch is dipping into 4 view stats while the rest are struggling to get 20k without s raid. 2 days after their debut and their struggling this bad

>>54988452
There was a point where ORK did multiple collabs together while Kronii was shacking up with the big group homo collabs. I remember being very dissapointed in how little Kronii seemed to give a shit about ORK. Anyone remember the ORK japan arc and new years tweet from ORK with Kroniis sad little reply. Kek. Shit was fucking weird.

>>54988401
This is still up btw. Nice niji-janny.

>>54988563
I feel Gura will be too intimidated by the twins, maybe if she had council backup for a 4p

>>54988563
Gura's gonna play wwe with the twins kek

>>54988687
>we really needed a near-catastrophic failure
true
>in HoloEN
They're not HoloEN but I get you

>>54988563
ALL GIRLS WILL BE FORCED TO COLLAB WITH MORI CALLIOPE THEN SHILL HER MUSIC AT THE END OF COLLAB

>>54988610
The more shitposting in those threads the less shitposting there will be in nijien right?

>>54988433
someone post that doggo image about nijibabies

>>54988610
Kill yourself.

>>54988685
She was at 1500 during the overlap and now nobody else is streaming retardbro

Why korone? Kuzuha literally got to Master rank and clearly know the game more
https://twitter.com/StreetFighterJA/status/1686591672745086978?t=LdiaHrcIpYGvxgH5W2NPFQ&s=19

>>54988709
Nijikeks getting to ahead of themselves lol
Half their branch is dipping into 3 view stats while the rest are struggling to get 1k without s raid. 2 days after their debit and their struggling this bad

>>54988726

Just woke up. Which Advent girl won?

>>54988531
Yea. The janny getting all pissy is just making it worse. Someone give it some pagpag

>>54988747
>global starts shitposting about how Fuwawa and Mococo are basically hype manning each other/Steve Austin posting
>Gura wants to play WWE with them
Like fucking pottery

>>54988709
stop ban evading

>>54988790
f-fauna?

>>54988659
"the more you see a name, the more it means they are my friend and that I may wish to collab with them"
Start the count

>>54988709
Look at the rest of the EN ecosystem and get back to us, anon.

Fuwawa is sex FREAK. She wants YOU to sneak into her house and fuck her brains out while Mococo is barely a meter away from her and can hear everything, but forced to pretend being asleep and not hearing anything. SICK woman.

>>54988790
>>54988796

Did NijiEN or IronLung finally made a contact with Advent?

>>54988687
>disgusting egos of incompetent staff members
trannychan you are next

>>54988563
>Gura FuwaMoco Collab (BAUBAU)
I think twins' reactions are very generic thus unable to bounce off Gura properly.

I propose a DoggoDogtwins collab instead.

how did fuwamoco got so many views today?

>>54988742
Those are the ones Gura has talked about the most.

>>54988709

Pfffft
Nice en3 you got there cucks

>>54988796
FWMC with their morning stream

>>54988859

>>54988783
Korone is more marketable.

>>54988747
yeah, she had them in mind, even asked in chat if you could play as 3 people

>>54988563
>Gura FuwaMoco Collab (BAUBAU)
Gura's fucking shit with JP-style streamers, keep her the fuck away from my doggos.

>>54988850
>NijiEN
:')

>bijou was the most popular advent in a poll here the other day
>she's going to be the runt in both ccv and subs
You guys know how to pick them huh

>>54988453
>>54988565
Honestly, all they need to widen the mountain is to space their stream times by 90 minutes instead of the current 60 minutes. They'd basically cover the entire afternoon schedule from afternoon to well past midnight.

>>54988760
Tempiss' failure was catastrophic, especially if they get reduced to 6 members in the coming weeks. I'm talking about all the bullshit that happened with HoloEN during 2022, including not getting a new gen until almost 2 years after Council.

>>54988851
I still can't believe how Cover allows that faggot to be groomed by discord cunts.

>>54988888
nijisisters, our top 2 streamers are leaving the family...
What went wrong?

>>54988790
Just graduate Fauna already. Useless whore

>>54987969
Why has no one SC a girl to ask "was the old management incompetent" or a nicer way?

>>54988742
Goomei vs the twins. That would work.

>>54988840
Lui stop pls this isnt healthy

>>54988670
>all these girls will be forced to Collab with Mori at least once
Why do you make it sound like a big deal? I've been scammed into chadcast for years.

- IRyS, maybe

>>54988377
Isn't that the best Ame karaoke in a while?

>>54988840
I will fuck Mococo instead

>>54988790
Fauna is missing.

>>54988888
Now do one from January to now but holoen

no... choco...
https://twitter.com/yuzukichococh/status/1686611688890748928

>>54988859
1M SUBS DORYAAAAAAAAA
ADVENT > PROJECT HOPE

>>54988859
Post homo views

>not even 1 million
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYNYhSsR8EE

oof

>>54988967
>western roastoid quirky girl mumbling vs a Japanese double act
Would be terrible.

>>54988840
What a disgusting woman, wanting to get her back blown out so hard that Mococo may have to deal with boards on the bunk bed giving out right on top of her. No shame whatsoever, forcing Mococo to hear her howl like a bitch in heat all night long, having to hear her sister's depraved climaxes while her head is shoved deep into the mattress, her moans reverberating through the bed down to Mococo's innocent virgin ears.
What a rotten way to live.

>>54988957
they won't answer, Kiara has said as much as anyone is likely to and we're just inferring the rest from the fact that we know they have a new HoloEN director and, uh, literally everything about the entire branch has improved for the better markedly since he was hired.

>>54988936
Bijou was only the favorite because she was demonstrating the most anti-homo ammo consistently, such is the rent free
It had nothing to do with how they are as streamers as you can see

>>54988969
>>54988931

>>54988685
Kaela is ENfags' last choice I believe.

>>54988783
Korone is well known.
idk about kuzuha. Is she from VSPO?

>>54988987
why not all of them anon

>>54988859
Fuwamoco 400k on Sunday

>>54988859
She gets VOD views from both EN and JP

>>54989012
all of the homos combined have 7.5m

>>54988685
She lost half her viewers to EN3 whereas Myth and Council are doing around the regular numbers retard-kun.

>>54988936
The schedule is the most important part of the debut. Shit content will ruin the debut-week momentum. You'd think #'s would know that already

>>54988859
Song + 2 short vods

>>54988936
For all the talk of jumping on shit too early, you guys love to jump in here and claim shit early, too, huh

>>54988826
The fact that it was in her script and she purposely wrote it like that makes me feel nervous. I don't like it.

>>54988563
>Gura FuwaMoco Collab (BAUBAU)
sadly the real answer is BaeRyS / FUWAMOCO

>>54989033
Y-yea....

>>54988957
They've already said as much as they realistically can and sending a SC like that could just get them exposed.
Mumei basically throwing out a sassy and backhanded comment everytime she talks about old management or her debut period should be all the explanation anyone needs.

>>54989077
nijisanji is free falling. big oof

>>54989096
Why do they hate Uyu

>>54988476
Dude do you even know why we use nigger so often around here? It's precisely because it offends people and the entire site culture is pretty much geared towards pissing people off for kicks. If you're surprised that a janny banning stuff he doesn't like makes people post that stuff more just to piss him off, I don't think you understand this place well enough

>>54988783
HAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHA KEK

>>54988936
>poll
the only ones I saw were where Shiori was botted to be the top

>>54988491
>>54988531
>>54988778
thanks a lot of things make sense now
they're quick to delete that but leave doxx posts festering for so long

>>54988859
That site bugs sometimes. It's actually posting two days as one.

What are all the things Hololive did to promote Advent debuts?

>>54988918
Gura's plan is as flimsy as oasis in desert. Always a mirage until it comes to realization.

>>54989077
>Vox -69%
Well at least that's consistent with his brand. Also seeing all the active Niji homos getting gutted is a sight to behold.

>>54988922
Bro, the dogs are slowly revealing themselves to be huge weirdos, that seems like it would work with Gura just fine.

>>54989121
yup the conditioning has started. I'll just sit back and watch.

>>54988890
>Banned bvtm faggot phone posting now.

>>54989163
I mean it is the OP

>>54989077
8 months into this year and not a single holoen or nijien has a 8k+ averages
Wtf happened?

>>54989096
So in 3 days FuwaMoco have a 1/5th of Vespers total views over a year. Hmmmm
.

there's something fundamentally wrong here

>>54988644
Aren't they both some variant of Chinese? Could be something there.

>>54989151
I'm not SURPRISED. I'm just pretty sure there's a worthwhile difference between normal "pissing people off," and self-destructive "pissing people off."

>>54989122
nta but in their defense all these niggas been looping EN3 from a year ago. They kinda gets a pass if they jump on shit early even it's a wrong move

>>54989271
they deleted the regular post of it here too

DANCE into the flame of life
DAN DANCE DANCE

>>54989313
I don't see it

>>54989272
2022 and Omega happened. Also Gura definitely has 8k+ average but for some reason she isn't on that image

>>54989272
>>54950991
because you have been looking at May averages for the past 2 months

funny how kiara has missed out on the last two days of bloodbath, maybe being in the bloodbath is better for your mindshare though

>>54988025
Gumei is the EN FuwaMoco

>>54989344
DANCE UNTIL THE END OF TIME
DANCE DANCE DANCE

>>54988563
>Kiara Nerissa Collab
>On Kiara's channel
cant fucking wait

>>54989398
y-yeah, man

>>54988401
>Left up
>>54988480
>[Deleted]

100M get!

>>54988025
reddit they sound the same meme!

>>54989343
anon give me a break, which song is better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWU3o_kDixc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYNYhSsR8EE

I press repeat on one of these songs only

>>54989413
7k

>>54989375
Surely someone can post a January to august 1st 2023 chart right?

>>54989398
fuwamoco is actually tolerable if you're white.

>>54989313
Which is... what?
>Cover of a very popular song that got a massive raid
vs
>Original song that got a large raid

>>54989313
HololiveEN channel hasn't shaken the debuff vibes from when it was an empty tomb only used to hold Omega's retarded trailers and Holostars debut watchalongs. Give it time to heal.

>>54988563
Bijou is either gonna be Fauna or Kaela
She's getting groomed in Minecraft, that's unavoidable, the only question is who's gonna be grooming her first

>>54989449
you mean gumei is

We hate Shitori here. The janny is protecting us from that whore.

>>54989384
>funny how kiara has missed out on the last two days of bloodbath
Why do you want Kiara to embarrass herself. Even Ina cant carry Mori Bae to good numbers.

>Not single non-collab gaming stream on shiori's schedule
Can someone familiar with her PL tell me if she actually plays games or nah

>>54989384
It isn't like she is also streaming at the exact same hours as everyone else

>>54987423
looks like a big fat shit on top of the other kek

>>54989435
>which song is better?
Nerissa's?

>>54989431
Which holo sang this song?

>>54988541
>Mori talks with people like they are retard
DING DING DING

Only victors here

>>54988890
>>54988936
Both Bijou and Nerissa are extremely solid entertainers and I can see them shine up once things settle down. They also seem the ones who will integrate the best with the previous HoloEN members.
Shiori and FuwaMoco are obviously the tourist bait and are used to raise the ceiling during this post debut buff stage.
Trust Jap-sama. Tempiss also had some pretty amazing post debut numbers but then crashed harder than anyone in less than a year. I think EN management is trying to avoid that and focusing on long term core viewers and strong floors instead of inflated debut numbers.

>>54988718
In Kronii's defense, her brand-new kitten suddenly passing away after being excited about finally getting one for months ruined her chance on ending 2022 on a positive note and 2021 wasn't exactly a banner year for her personal life either.

>>54989449
based

>>54989521
>>54989503
yes but people would use her as a waiting room while waiting for primetime bloodbath

>>54988563
Bijou IRyS splatoon collabs

>>54989482
the twins will be groomed in minecraft by fauna she will put them to work on the tree

>>54989435
I listened to Rebellion on Spotify so it won't count to the MV, sorry anon.

>>54989530
I guess that anon is snitch baiting
jk

2022 was wasted and Gura became depressed because of this

>>54989344
>>54989404
Higher further faster!

Can we expect more dipping under 10k tomorrow?
Can they hit 20K with a a raid?
the way things are going now its looking good for numbers next week

>get recommended Top100 Vtubers by subscribers
>100 is Iofi
>other than Advent, Anya and Kaela the rest of Hololive made it to the Top100
Is that accurate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHSxkHSNFIQ

>>54988541
retard-chama...

>>54988519
>>54988038
>>54988278

KEK

>>54989584
Worth it for getting Mococo and Bijou

>>54988097
>>54989323
>like, like, like
>im CAPITALIZING my words to indicate my tone
>and like, taking dramatic pauses too
>this entire discussion
stfu :)

If haachama comes back with a 3D return live like Migo did years ago, what would the peak ccv be?

>>54989584
>if i can turn back time, I would tell yagoo to stop this idol shit

>>54989597
im expecting 30k+ since gura isn't around to steal viewers tomorrow hopefully

>>54988718
>Kronii seemed to give a shit about ORK.
i won't forget the tour of birthday calls with the stitches still in her mouth

>>54989435
I can't get enough of Rebellion's chorus
JUMP INTO THE STREAM OF LIFE

>>54989599
the only valid ranking is
https://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/document/ranking
because they remove (most if the time) converts, second channels and other non-vtubers

I just saw Shiori revealed her gloved fingers already. She's really speedrunning all the buffs, huh?

UNHINGED BROS WE ARE SO BACK

>>54989657
100k

>>54989435
I've listened to both a bunch but I assume you're talking about Rebellion which is definitely loopable, certified banger

>>54989645
Sorry your autism flared up, anon

>>54989657
at least 100k

>>54989584
It basically had to happen though, Jap autism wouldn't have fired Omega unless he caused such a disaster

So now we know that the HoloEN box is around 65k, how does that compare to HoloJP?

feels good that i`ve been in a coma throughout 2022, woke up then advent debut

>>54989551
Yeah I'm sure Kronii was insanely depressed at the end of 2022. I still think she was being a bit of a menhera though.
At least i think things have been turning around for her a bit recently

>>54989689
nijisanji style

>>54989584
So without vesper and magni the homo box is about 2k?

Was trying to shit on tempus in reddit. Got hit back with a,
>Just because we don't watch their streams, doesn't mean it's okay to shit on them
Afterwards, they don't have any arguments as to why they existed in 2022 when EN3 proves to be better. How hard is it for people to understand that people like Hololive girls? Is it really supporting them if you don't watch them or buy merch?

>>54989657
100k floor, anything over depends on the line up

>>54989701
>>54989717
Migo hit 150k back then, I think it could easily be 200k

>>54989730
200k

>>54989551
Time-cat...
Yea, that was fucking sad as shit, and I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt that the kitten was just doomed, since that just happens sometimes.

>>54989730
FuwaMoco bring a ton of JP, box has increased

>>54989672
>steal
That's 11k-12k chumbies strong that won't watch anyone else other than Gura, and like 10% of them will watch her friends.

So Shiori is basically homobeggar and BVTM battleground?

Wait, Nerissa overtake the lead on music views.
How??

>>54989755
>reddit

>>54989767
with this current viewcull? No

>>54989503
Kiara's oshi is Pekora
Kiara has seen Pekora getting destroyed by the holo JRPG goddess.
Kiara realized "do not fight your opponents in their forte" and decided not to take the risk.

>>54989584
I hope at some point I just stop thinking about these dudes entirely and they just fade out of memory.
Please, Cover, give me peace.

>>54989754
>2k
that's not even one EU time debuff game kiara reading sc

plappenning sisters....

>>54989313
Not really, the cover is good, also has the novelty of being basically half original due to custom EN lyrics. Nerissa also seems to be getting some women in her audience, and we know what they're like with looping songs.

>>54989793
She sing good

>>54989551
>>54989772
Kek nah. She did go to Japan, just not with council.

Like Gura said Minecraft arc will be great since I can see JP Minecraft arc will revive also since new girls.

>>54989730
JP is 2.5x - 3x of EN

>>54989584
Reminder there are unironically people who would avoid hiring Marine, Miko, Watame, Kanata, Gura and more just so these guys can play games can leech off their more successful coworkers

>>54989847
Phasecucks why are you like this

I'm genuinely puzzled at how she managed to get into holoEN, let alone the leader role. What the fuck was Cover smoking?
>generic as fuck voice
>boring streamer, 2view for 3 years for a reason (watched 2 of her streaming vods and confirmed that she does, indeed, have 0 talent for streaming).
>In fact all her streams boil down to is mundane commentary over gameplay and thanking subs/gifts. She cracks 0 witty jokes or does anything interesting.
>Can't fucking sing
>Reads vns, and "books" like Sherlock holmes
>Personality, voice, does not match design and lore at all.
What the hell man. Cover is pretty much flawless on EN hires outside of Sana yet this seems like a massive blunder on their part. Sure there's nothing offensive about her but there's literally nothing remarkable either. Surely they could've found someone with at least an iota of talent over Natsumi motherfucking Moe of all people. Seeing a good chuuba design and model like Shiori being wasted on some shitty has-been is just tragic.
>inb4 nijiseethe
No faggot. I really couldn't care less for Nijisoutside of maaaybe Lulu. I just want them to hit it out of the park with EN3 after being so disappointed with Council. It's been 2 fucking years and I expected them to be above hiring someone so painfully miquetoast.

>>54989790
lets see, i really want a gura free day to see how well advent does without that overlap

>>54989793
All me

>>54989755
>Just because we don't watch their streams
Kek, they can't even refute this

>>54989672
She's maybe going to do a mengen. Who knows how many of that 11-12k core chumrades watch those.

>>54989793
>Japanese song cover vs original English lyrics cover
>Hololive English
not difficult to know why. also Nerissa just sings better.

Explain to me
Why are you not only doing GFE, the most schizo attracting content, but also actively cultivating egocentric schizo fanbase through focusing on pre-chat and telling your fans in various schizo promoting behaviors and then decide to ALSO aim for male collabs
Does she actually want to get stabbed?

>>54989767
Yeah but chammers is not miko

>>54989793
If I had to guess EN is starved for good English covers, but the JP side isn't for good JP covers.

>>54989847
>Phasecucks shilling clippers instead of WalmartPeko channel

>>54989880
What part of
>House of Broken Women
do you not get, anon

Consider this : If we get EN3 at the time of Tempus, we would be getting a totally different roster instead of what we have right now. Is it worth it?

>>54989912
where did you mention male collabs? or is that your cock obsessed mind poisoned by shitposters?

>>54989730
Are you comparing honeymoon tourist EN box numbers with normal JP box numbers?

She’s 100% going to collab with witch indies, vshojo friends and holostars once her collab ban is over isn’t she….

>>54989384
Well, Kiara might try to get raid from the twins from their morning show, but we all understand it instantly dissolving to her usual 3k viewers, within half an hour or faster. As for the twins, and their evening stream(spooky mansion timeslot), Kiara again can give them at most 2.5k raid viewers, which won't affect anything in their case. She is absolutely useless for any kind of numbers. t.esl

>>54989678
And i was there shitting on people for doubting her but i was specifically talking about that period of time where ORK was doing their own thing with Kronii nowhere to be seen. Like Octoberish to December.

>>54989912
Falling plane with no brakes. Once in a vtubing lifetime if you're into it.

>>54989792
Yup and my gf

>>54989793
Simple:
Its the best song coming from EN3 so far.

>>54989912
She is really dedicated to the bit

>>54989946
>4/5 hires are easily well worth it and top-tier talents
>1/5 is probably fine but just on a "wait-and-see" notice
I'm okay with things having played out like this. I'll say it was worth it.

>>54989880

>>54989689
>spam buff content up to the monetization stream
>collect fat pay cheque from the retention
>do a male collab afterwards
>go on break
>come back, do GFE bait followed by boring game streams
>end up floating around Kronii numbers
Watch

>>54989946
EN4 would've still got twins. EN3 last year could've gotten nerissa, shiori and bijou. It's all canon events.

>>54989912
Rope, bvtm shitposter.

>Mori 3.0

>>54989503
Don't act like Ina wouldn't get brutalized under that overlap, I shudder to think what would have happened to Fauna if she continued

>>54989946
You mean if the debut of Tempus was forfeited but we could get a reroll of EN3 members?

>>54989946
Anons doomposted everyone that was predicted.

>>54988778
The small dog syndrome one?

>>54989962
not streaming at a crucial point like the last two days feels like a mistake, people will forget about her with the new shiny toys and whoever streamed that day is around

>>54989912
Because it's totally fine for Hololive to do it. That's the beautiful thing about Hololive, Holofans support their oshi regardless of male collab

>>54989792
She's the only one they have an in on.
>Doggos are too idol and weird for them to try
>Rocunny slots right into the Hololive mold like she's been at this for over a year and shows no interest in homocollabs or yaba
>Rissa is HARD GAY, and also has explicitly avoided all things TEMPISS, going so far as to UNLIKE shit that she notices has Tempus shit in it
Shiori is the only one with any real past baggage or looks willing to acknowledge the leeches in any way.

>>54989912
i like my dogs vtubers play some games

>>54989503
Ina can't even carry herself to good numbers anymore why would you think she'd help Mori and Bae?

This big of a fall and its only Tuesday, expecting sub 9k ccv by next week

The amount of Advent baits is too damn high

>>54990055
nah, you want Shiorin, you can't go out there and unironically call the fucking idolfag of the gen "Mori-like" my guy

>>54989793
>Wait, Nerissa overtake the lead on music views.
>How??
Nerissa's the best holosinger and her sunday karaoke will make your knees shatter the ground

>>54990027
No, because EN3 would be picked by Omega along with EN4. It had to be this way

>>54989946
Late 2022 was really depressing, not gonna lie. It unironically impacted my real-life mood and shit. But I'm starting to subscribe to the necessary evil theory to rid us of shitty en management once and for all.
I'd rather have 6 bad months than have EN3 under Omega with Gura graduating in a year or two when she couldn't stand the bullshit anymore.

>>54990056
I think Ina could hold her own to some extent with buff content.

>>54990087
Then why the fuck is she in fucking 4th place in the entire fucking EN Vtubing industry, retard

>>54989730
Alright hold on, this is 65k during debut era. It’s far more likely to drop than it is to gain right now, but what you can say is that tonight was the first time in a very, very, VERY long time EN was almost “competing” with JP.
JP primetime with overlap is generally around 120k combined viewers, where EN had 70k tonight. Again, it’s not gonna last, but that’s a super sick feat to achieve and honestly girls like Shiori seem to be making large strides in getting holoEN new fans to enter the scene so we really gotta see where it ends up

>>54989946
So long as the twins still get saved one way or another i don't care

>>54989323
Yeah bro this place is just full of sensible people with good judgment as to what is a good use of their time

Grim :(

Begging so hard

>>54990105
I don't think so.

>>54990154
Because the EN vtubing industry was a total joke before Advent came along to save it, seething takotranny.

>>54989962
I never realized that they could actually trade raids

>>54990105
Fuck you nerissashill I am checking her music now

>>54989730
About the same as HoloJP.

>>54990162
Hey, if some of us retards can be here and not be completely fucking retarded, that means there's no excuse for the rest of them, y'know

>>54989951
She warned about collabs might be in some way be controversial.
Seeing her RM's stuff most ppl are quite sure what she meant by that.

>>54990178
he's not wrong

>>54990169
>>54989224

>>54990195
you're baiting

>>54989744
I think her kitten suddenly passing away coupled with the prospect of a life-altering surgery for her did cause to 2023 to have a bit of a rocky start, but since HoloFes really things have been looking up so it seems like it's better for her at least now.

>>54989864
If Animol or Snail suddenly passed away that close to the trip and Mumei or Fauna had to dip out while the rest of Council went, would you have given them a hard time about it or understood that they were being mindful of the others by not bringing that kind of emotion luggage on a trip that's supposed to be a happy occasion? And for all the shit people give her, Kronii still did birthday call-ins for weeks while her face was a bloated blood balloon from surgery, so saying she doesn't give a shit about her own gen is fucking silly.

>Tempus is dead
>go back to doing GFE

>>54990178
> Stars worth 1k
> Holos worth 60k
Beggar bros....

Numberbros, who will be the EN3 that generates most clips?

>>54990076
>Rushia
>Kronii
>Bae

>>54990253
She should Improve herself

>>54987715
Since it's the beginning of a new month I will post the lifetime points for HoloEN going back to when the tally started (January 2022)

Gura: 632
Mumei: 396
Fauna: 391
Mysta: 387
Vox: 345
Mori: 311
Ina: 305
IRyS: 280
Baelz: 271
Kronii: 237
Amelia: 227
Luca: 200
Kiara: 183
Shu: 115
Ike: 81
Selen: 67
Yugo: 56
Uki: 46
Ren: 45
Enna: 42
Fungus: 38
Elira: 38
Nina: 36
Pomu: 29
Alban: 29
Vesper: 29
Magni: 29
Petra: 21
Sonny: 20
Millie: 20
Axel: 20
Regis: 20
Finana: 18
Rosemi: 16
Sana: 12
Kyo: 12
Meloco: 12
Bijou: 10
Yu: 10
Hex: 8
Maria: 8
Shiori: 7
Vezalius: 6
Sara: 5
Flayon: 5
FuwaMoco: 5
Roca: 5
Reimu: 4
Vantacrow: 4
Aster: 3
Ver: 3
Bettel: 3
Hakka: 3
Kotoka: 3
Nerissa: 3
Poko: 3
Pippa: 2
Aia: 1
Shinri: 1

>>54989203
The dogs are a different kind of weird from Gura's kind of weird. Not sure how that would go over.

>>54990253
>GFE
Bro that isn't GFE, that's literally child stuff.
That's what three year olds do, anon. Or developmentally disabled five year olds. That's who goes
>give uppies, please!!

>>54990190
Heh, there's a reason why IRyS was particularly hurt by that sc joke about switching oshis