/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>54747673
it's not holofans, it's people trying to create drama, damage her career and by extension hololive too. Just report them and move on

>>54747673
people coping about shiori are mostly nijisisters, phasekeks and dramafaggots.

trying to push a holo vs holo rivalry is their only way to forget how they're getting mogged by people who haven't even streamed an hour.

>>54747673
Just to let you know, /cbdct/ sisters are pissed at Shiori for following Flayon and wanting to (possibly) collab with holostars, so they want to harass her.

>>54748533
thanks spy-sis.

>>54747673
must suck to have zero intelligence huh

>>54748533
>flayon follows her
>she's a normal educated human being so she follows back
>"SHE'S A WHORE WORST GEN"
sisters really are desperate

>>54747673
I'll forgive her when she unfollows the homo on xitter.

>>54749034
>>54749083

>>54748914
>no argument
>raves about a broad concept of intelligence, NOT logic or observation
i accept your concession, dimwit

It's incredible how /vt/ takes are self-contained, go outside of this place and you wouldn't know there's this contingent with specific grievances about her. I liked her debut just as much as all the others.

It's not Holofan they're already aware of her stance, it's holoanti trying to cause more infighting with unicorns which have (mostly) been defeated thanks to Mori,Kronii,Ame,Bae and a lot of the JPs and IDs

>>54747673
As someone who didn't watch male collab.
I respect shiori's decision.
I just hope she's not doing that because of "idol culture is... le bad!".

>>54748533
Well the more the merrier right?

>>54749441
if you can't figure out something so obvious such as my post and what she was trying to go for with her spiel about collabs you are retarded it's simply a fact

>>54750163
>wrote an entire paragraph to literally say nothing
wittgenstein here

>>54749678
They were all wildly different from each other. If you liked them all the same then you have no opinion or taste of your own.

>>54749678
>pretends /vt/ is self-contained
>ignores how chuubas keep mentioning /vt/ memes
/vt/ is the biggest trendsetter in the vtubing community whether you like it or not

>>54750398
damn a WHOLE paragraph
that must be incomprehensible for you

>>54748533
they are just like us

>>54750691
>us

>>54750587
>cares more about HIS internet honor than making a valid argument as to why a debutant chuuba should be receiving post yab kronii and mori derision
i accept your retardation

>>54749845
>unicorns
>defeated

I still see akasupas being spammed and merchandise being sold out in minutes, though. And no, normalfags neither watch streams nor spend a cent on the girls.

>>54747900
Says who? The voices in your head?

>>54749845
>mori, kronii, ame and bae "defeating" unicorns

Yeah, these four owned them so hard, they themselves cut back on homocollabs.

>>54747673
>but she hasn't done anything wrong yet.
The rrats are going to be great.

>>54749845
DYRBI

>>54749845
Shiori is pandering to cuckbeats

>>54750441
I liked them all, not exactly the same, but I liked them all and that is the point. I don't dislike many chuubas, especially Holos, and call for their head.

>>54750539
Ah yes, I remember the /vt/ meme review with Coco and later Haachama

>>54747673
People who aren't invested sperg out less. I'd rather we have a few days of shitposting now than a bunch of retards oshiing her despite their better judgement and then going full retard forever because she betrayed them or whatever.

>>54747673
No. I WILL have a nonsensically strong opinion on someone we've seen barely over an hour of.

>>54747673
I don't mind the red flags.
She was honest like Bae and told about the shit she will do.
Won't support her but i respect the honesty.

>>54753610
Kronii doesn't even collab with homos unless Mori begs her too for one of her leeching sessions.

>>54749845
Nigga this entire gen is basically Cover's apology to unicorns for neglecting them so badly
Nerissa shoving her tits into us and begging for fanart, the yuri sister doggos, the uooh gem.
They debuted with fucking merch already.
The only non unicorn friendly girl is Shiori and she might interact with homos so that's them giving the gen some thing for all crowds but overall 4/5 of the gen is aimed at unicorns.

>>54747900
fpbp

>>54747673
Since when holofags have a collective identity, I watch holo since early 2020 and I shited on her and will continue to shit on her unless she proves me wrong, who do you guys think you're to go around saying how people should behave or they aren't "true fans"

>>54757978
Anon, this is the norm, why are you saying as if they opposite is true
Gamers no one collabs regularly with men, gen 3 too, gen 4 only Towa, gen 5 only Botan, gen 6 only Laplus

I don't get unicorns, why are they so fucking retarded? Are they so fragile that they go frothing at the mouth at the sight of a female streamer interacting with male streamer? What's their deal?

>>54758938
It's not the same across all branches and you know it.
On ID all of them do, 100%, on Myth 2/5 do and on Councirys 2/5 do so on EN 4/10 do which is almost 50%.
Compare that to JP where you can barely bring up maybe 6/36 do male collabs basically 16%
To be fair EN would need several gens with 0 male collabers to reach a similar ratio as JP, even having 1 of them per gen is still too much.
But there's definitely a correction attempt.

>>54759464
>what do you mean you don't want hololive to become nijisanji or twitch?

>>54747673
>if she really is bad, you can at least wait a few more streams.
nah a few more streams isn't even remotely enough to judge. wait like 6 months until she finds her groove and is more comfortable. hell maybe even a year. Anyone judging debuts and the first few months are legit newnigs and/or clinically braindead

>>54759901
It's not that I just don't get why people are like that, am a newfag

>>54747900
Correct, remind BVTM that he's a filthy SEAnigger and move on

>>54759464
A lot of gachikois (like me) are invested in our idols so seeing them having fun with another male "friend" on stream is enough to make me unconfortable.

>>54747673
Most people shiting on her are just doing it because they are salty or envious their 2view wasn't uplifted.
I didn't enjoy her past life very much, even back when it was just her as far as en vtubers went. But hey, here is hope she does well.

But why anon? It's not like they're your girlfriend or something, why does a male presence bother you so much? I'm not even trying to offend you, I'm just confused.

>>54761132
We don’t enjoy watching a girl we like having fun with other men. So we won’t support those who do. Their content is not for us and our money is not for them,

>>54761483
Wow whatever will these millionaires and corporations do without the incredibly rich and numerous /vt/. These streamers will sink into obscurity like ame or mori did without the enlightened mentally ill neets on this board..

>>54761483
Also shiori’s shtick is gfe pandering plus male collabs, which is ill conceived and will only pander to men with a cuckold fetish. Things that could otherwise be titillating will just make her look like a whore to us now. It is what it is.

>>54761838
You guys said they don't collab with males because of /here/ and now /here/ doesn't have any power, pick a side roastie

>>54761965
You ruined another girl that didn’t have the bumper years that ame and mori had congrats.

>>54761132
>It's not like they're your girlfriend or something
Sorry but you can't use that argument when Shiori was GFE baiting.

>>54749034
WHY SHE DIDNT FOLLOW ME BACK FUKINGUNEDUCATEDBITCH

>>54761965
Nice projection, perhaps you could sell your delusional fanfiction on some sketchy websites?

Isn't she kind of asking for it though? Preemptively demanding respect in her fucking debut stream is a pretty confrontational move.

>>54761838
Mori and ame are both in the toilet now in terms of ccv if you haven’t noticed.

>>54761483
You don't have to support them retard, but maybe don't actively anti them either.

>>54761838
>Wow whatever will these millionaires and corporations do without the incredibly rich and numerous /vt/.
Lose money. Just ask Kronii.

>>54762283
I’ll criticize them here and not support them.

>>54762283
>anti
Why the fuck antis would sperg at random anons, if they truly want to anti someone they would post somewhere where she would see it like twitter, live chat or youtube comments
If some chuuba came /here/ she deserves to ge flamed randomly anyways

>>54748533
>the gayest femsub out of the homos
>#sisters fear him

unicorns and sisters are the same thing: retarded schizo bugs

>>54763819
He has embraced and succeeded at the "guy pretending to be gay at girl's slumbering"
I applaud at this mecha bro

>>54759464
Jealousy. Hatred. Greed. (Insert Zephiel speech)

I bet you, Holo can do what Niji does better. Call me corpolicker for all I care.

>>54759464
Usually unicorns get mad when their oshi is dating or has a bf. However, for Holobros this means their oshi is not allowed to talk to men on stream, while everything offline is OK.

>>54747673
True. Anyone attacking her and shitting on her are shitposters though so trying to appeal to them is wasting your time. This is just what shitposters do and enjoy. Stirring up drama and insulting people.
I haven't subscribed to her because that weird lecture thing at the end about respecting her collab choices and the whole husbando thing just makes me think she's not for me. I'm not gonna go out of my way to shit on her though.

>>54760455
if its that hard for you to get it you should fuck off desu

>>54747673
i don't mind either way if she decides to collab with stars/males, i just hope that if she does she handles it like bae and not like kronii

>>54761483
You know what anon, that's fair, you do you.

I don't come to /vt/ often, am a /qst/ and /fit/ fag, I just like them cause they're cute. Unicorns are just pathetic, they need to go out more interact with people.

>>54765345
It is hard for me to get, because I'm not a massive fag like the unicorns. Good god are you people pathetic.

>>54766554
i'm sure you will generate a lot of revenue for the girls anon.

>>54758657
Just watch the chuubas you like instead of investing time into shitposting about chuubas you don't like. Nobody is clockwork oranging you into watching shiori, you absolute schizo.

>>54766943
But you don't get attention on /vt/ for liking things. Why would he deprive himself from the last bit of human interaction he gets?

>>54747673
>Ignoring the reason that people behave like that is because Kronii exists.
Last time people blindly trusted an EN talent, it had an amazing outcome. Trust this anon, it will totally work this time.

>>54765117
>everything offline is ok
you already know this is bullshit from yabs

>>54759814
>streamer explicitly states in their first stream they will collab with whomever
>there was a correction attempt
'unicorn' on this board aka seafags with no money are so retarded

>>54759464
homofags don't even watch homos. they're just the exact tranny/female version of the lonely incels they mock, except they contribute LESS to vtubing's success.