/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>How pants-shittingly terrified are they right now?
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They're in the same company retardchama, they want each other to thrive unlike your oshi.

>All of EN3
>Shiori
Lmao no, Shiori bombed out

I think they're happy to get new friends to stream with and I think you need to remove your head from your anus

>>54732231
>>54732723
>>54733010
>>54733010
Bae is still the best HoloEN.

>>54732231
>All of the EN3 debuts have been stellar
>enter

>>54733010
Shiori is the Sana of EN3

>>54733180
I agree with you. Her accent is so good. We need more EN members without north American accents.

They had to wait two years for new kouhai so i'm sure they're happy

>>54732231
Sana can't wait to collab

>>54732231
>stellar
>hyper nervous "quirky" homolover girl
>annoying retarded zoomer who got hired god knows why
>boring
>2 in 1 channel, cant even rack up views to win against 1 debut from last years

Yeah...

Fauna has been begging for more girls to play with, actually.

EN3 is def stellar, but theres nothing wrong with that.

The more eyes on Hololive the better living conditions for those around them

>>54732723
>They're in the same company retardchama, they want each other to thrive
have you ever had a job before

>>54733180
weak bait

>>54733180
Baesed

>>54733999
It's true though. She appeals to people outside the USA.

>>54733951
Find a better employer. I mean it. If you're too poor to have time for that then get fucked.

>>54732723
They still directly compete for viewers

>>54732231
bet Sana is shitting herself rn

>>54732231
>All of the EN3 debuts have been stellar
Except Shiori's. The rest have been great at the very least.

>>54732231
Too bad Shiori exists otherwise Advent would be perfect.

>>54733472
hololive board, please understand

>>54732231
Kronii is absolutely on suicide watch
No one watches Bae anyway
Mumei and Fauna will be fine

Nah, Council still mogs EN3 IMO, especially CouncilRyS. Mumei and Fauna are top tier for me, I don't know if anyone else will be there for me, maybe Bijou. IRyS and Bae are also great, but with Bae you superficial fucks just say 'male collabs' as if everyone watches Hololive from the standpoint of self-inserting themselves as their virtual boyfriend. EN3 has a bunch of 8/10 chuubas but FauMei are 10/10 for me

PLEASE stop shitting on solely Shiori.
Imagine being the only member of your entire fucking gen that gets absolutely brutalized by /vt/.
Stop mindbreaking her you fucking monsters.

>>54734755
the main thing is it's clear shiori aside the rest of the gen is out for blood. they know why they're in hololive and they're going to go all out for it. i guarantee you every single one of them besides shiori has been looking at the rest of EN resentfully knowing they'd go for gold if they ever got the chance. these girls are in it to win it.

>>54735262
Why would she go here?

>>54735262
she started it by mindbreaking me by going the ntr route. i have no sympathy.

Imagine thinking this girls are fucking scared when they get new coworkers. They're all still getting PhD money and thousands of simps no matter what happens

>>54735262
Maybe she shouldn't have been shit then? Lots of red flags that put her as someone that doesn't belong in Hololive. Look at her stream and look at the other three and you'll see why Shiori doesn't fit the bill. I don't know what the fuck whoever hired her was thinking but it was a fucking mistake.

>>54733659
>ASMR with Fauna

>>54732231
So which ones are confirmed Tempiss safe? I don't want to bother watching any homo collabers.

>>54732231
The only ones scared are Myth, CouncilRyS is still the best gen in EN.

>>54736025
Everyone except Shiori. Shiori is the free use homoslut.

>>54732231
nah council is fine

>>54735262
All Shiori has to do is make it clear she won't collab with males. Until then she's in retard jail.

>>54735569
anon, i know from this perspective it's hard to believe since they've "made it" but that's just how these things go. i'm sure plenty of them are healthy enough and resilient enough to let it wash over them, but i guarantee you they're all a bit scared, especially seeing how serious en3 is sans shiori. i say this as a novelites.

>Bae has a completely different feel than any of them
>Fauna will never have to fear losing her well groomed base
>Mumei is already established and charming enough to keep pace with the new gen
Kronii is absolutely fucked though.

>>54736816
Nah fuck that, even after that she's in retard jail. Bitch blew her chance.

>>54735262
We've been asking you cunts to stop trying to turn Hololive English into Nijisanji English for a while now
It's easier than you think

>>54736337
yeah, free use for me

>>54736919
Bae's different feel is amazing.

I imagine Sana is sleeping pretty soundly.

>>54735262
I will give her all of my love when she sets the record straight and confirms she's not going to betray me by collabing with men.

>>54735262
her debut was fine, the schizos here latch onto like one or two things said near the end as bullshit justification to pretend it wasn't

>>54736337
Has she even interacted with them or are people assuming because of her cringe husbando slide

>>54736919
Kronii's gonna have to get some lewd-ass models from Wada to bail her out.

>>54737948
Stop being a cuck

>>54735262
/vt/ likes to pick out the runt in each gen and just rail on them. I wasn't KFP, but I was never anti-Kiara even from the start and defended her weak entrance to Hololive. /vt/ and 5ch just railed on the poor girl when Kiara was actually overqualified to be in Hololive.
If you are into Shiori, you'll literally have to put up with it until the antis find EN4. I had to wait until EN2 for people to stop ripping apart Kiara for no damn reason other than she's a bit of a narcissist. "Runt" antis jump from generation to generation.

>>54732231
I'm just going to keep watching mumei and fauna like I always do

>>54737948
>how dare schizos latch on to the part of Shiori's debut that might entail something really fucking bad that completely ruins her

>>54732231
Irys wanted more people to groom

>>54738179
Bro she literally told people that they aren't going to like everyone she collabs with. What the fuck else is that going to mean except homos and twitch losers.

They're only going to be enhanced.

>>54738746
>something really fucking bad that completely ruins her
No Holo has been ruined by male collabs. /vt/ catalog fags bitching about them and numberfagging doesn't mean ruined.

>>54732231
Why would Sana be scared?
>>54733379
>Shiori is the Sana of EN3
No, she's not going to quit, she's been a vtuber for over half a decade.

>>54732723
Based and correct, OP is a faggot

>>54737948
It’s definitely the weakest of the four debut streams, but that’s more a testament to how well everyone else’s went, rather than being a trainwreck like Ame’s or Mumei’s debuts. It’s also worth noting that debut streams aren’t the best at showing what you’ll get with regular streams, as anyone who watches Kaela can attest.

>Shiori
Bombed Debut, but who knows. Open a strangle on Novelcoin with upside bias, as it would squeeze if she doesn't do male collabs.
>Koseki
Cunny love is cunny life. An absolute blast of a debut. Leveraged longs on Bijoucoin.
>Nerissa
Underdog coming in strong. Designated blue girl, so strong potential. A little vanilla thought, so have to watch out for that. Long Ravencoin, but low ADR means we probably want calls here instead of commons.
>Fuwamoco
GGN spectators are buying their fourth mansions at the moment. Might be too late to jump in, but we can make a play based on the macro economic impact they will have on the market (extreme optimism, deescalation of war tensions, return of inflation due to rising mansion prices). Long homebuilder stock and etf.

>>54738898
I missed that part desu. Just gonna unsub now then.

>>54732231
Imagine being an 2view and having a brain that thinks like this.

>>54732723
You wish they are numberffags at heart

>>54732231
EN3 doesn't even feel like Myth or Council. It'll be so weird to see them mix together.

>>54735715
>I don't know what the fuck whoever hired her was thinking
She is super duper experienced. It is hard to get more experienced as a vtuber than her.

>>54732231
>All of the EN3 debuts have been stellar.
Nerissa is boring
Dog girls don't even speak English
Shiori

>>54734755
So true sister!

>>54733010
stay mad

Council have been frothing at the mouth over EN3 on twitter and on streams. You don't watch streams so you wouldn't know why.

the twins are going to be the biggest numbers in this gen by far

>>54733010
I mean her debut itself went well until she derailed it. If anything hers was the most professional looking until the fuck up.

>>54739328
tell that to their numbers going straight down the shitter LMAO

the only one fucked is kroni, dont you have other viewers?!?

>>54738528
The difference is Shiori made her self the runt of EN3 by possibly implying she's a destructive parasite who doesn't give a fuck about Hololive and just wants to frolic around with her guy friends on stream. But she can instantly fix it by clarifying that isn't what she meant. Unless that actually is what she meant. Then she's fucked.

>>54740623
I dunno, even during the stream it was a bit awkward. It's a hard sell though because her character is meant to be a weirdo.

>>54740306
because they are jp disguised as en

>>54732231
>no longer the shiny new toys
>but also not the beloved classics of Myth

Don't think they're terrified but they'll have to work hard to carve out their place.

>>54733010
Her debut was good all around, Nerissa was the worst one but even she was around Council-tier.

>>54739328
It's over, homobegger. Your false narratives don't work. At least 3/4 of EN3 are CGDCT streamers. You lost.

>>54738528
>I wasn't KFP, but I was never anti-Kiara even from the start and defended her weak entrance to Hololive. /vt/ and 5ch just railed on the poor girl when Kiara was actually overqualified to be in Hololive.
That's how I am with Shiori, I'm not even her target audience but my fucking savior complex is kicking in because of how badly she's getting treated. I feel so bad for the girl. My stupid empathy is making me feel like shit just for watching this happen.
Imagine being in her shoes and coming here and seeing the warm reception to all the other girls then seeing everyone just ripping you a new one and tearing you to shreds. That's gotta make you feel like dirt.

>>54740957
I think it’s her being a weirdo, her character being a different type of weirdo, and was still working on bridging that gap. The bit at the end that people are complaining about was so vaguely worded that I didn’t even realize that it could be interpreted that way, so I’d hold off on passing judgment until she says something to clarify.

>>54732231
>praising the fact that a corporation hired a bunch of professional VA's and ex-corpos to be their new chubas

shut the fuck up

>>54732723
Mostly true, Kiara though is climbing the walls right now.

>>54742063
>Imagine being in her shoes and coming here and seeing the warm reception to all the other girls then seeing everyone just ripping you a new one and tearing you to shreds.
She can end it literally any time just by saying she's only interested in female collabs. It's not hard.

Anyone else as excited as I am for her corruption arc in her desperate attempt to remain relevant?
She literally has no talent, all she has is a smoking hot model. Now she'll have to actually use it.
My dick can only get so erect

>>54742063
Korone image is appropriate for your post, considering she had what’s probably the worst debut in company history. Personally, I’m getting Mumei flashbacks.

>>54732231
I think mumei, fauna, and bae have done well enough to secure their fanbases. Might see some drop in ccv during overlaps but fans will stick around. Kronii on the other hand has been cratering for a while and is going to lose the most.

>>54732231
>All of the EN3 debuts have been stellar
Shiori stop trying to sell yourself you fucked up

>>54743137
she is more interesting than 3/5 that just debuted, she'll be fine.

>>54743010
>Kiara though is climbing the walls right now.
Yeah looking for your heterosexuality but she can't find it

>>54742292
Her voice is so terrible though, not because I wanted something else but just for its own sake. It wasn't so bad in her previous role but here it sticks out. This post-debut collab just makes it more obvious how grating her voice is compared to the others.

>>54743376
lol
lmao

>>54735262
Her fault doing 44 minutes of GFE and on the Last minute say she like homo dicks and follow them on twitter

>>54742063
>how badly she's getting treated.
It's nothing compared to what she put up with for half a decade while Indie. Shiori will be fine, she already won just by being in Holo.

>>54743137
> smoking hot model
The more time passes the more fucking retarded this cope keep sounding.

>>54733074
>new friends

lmao Mori just called her own genmate "someone" the other day

>>54732231
>holo vs holo
Genuine answer is nobody. Their personalities and content are different enough that there's really no overlap.

>only 74k viewers
it's over...

>>54732723
>they want each other to thrive
Yes of course, and take away their fans, numbers and paypigs.
Myth and council will feel now what Kizuna AI felt when she fell, expect crying streams

>>54743456
That’s a fair enough criticism.

how will you dramafaggots cope when no one leaves anyone?

>>54733951
sound like you-problem, here's a tip for you: stop working for a black company

>>54732231
>kronii
kek
>bae
can't go any lower than what she barely has left, actually the safest
>mumei
no en3 has the retarded autism that mumei can only provide, quite safe
>fauna
to be frank, not so sure

>>54740623
Being "professional" is what made it weak. It felt overly scripted in a bad way (unlike the twins that felt scripted in a good way).

She's too normalfag. Just wasn't interesting to a primarily anime consuming audience.

>>54744782
>expect crying streams
maybe brapper and clock. kiara and fauna have irongrips on their fans, and we all know how cumbuds are.

>>54732231
all of these faggots are trying to do holo vs holo bait, when council was already at the top of EN. real hololive fans will stay winning because our EN branch only grows stronger, while other faggots will stay crying because of their lack of success.

>>54746135
>council was already at the top of EN
lmao

>>54742581
>pathetically complaining that the people hololive hired to be their next gen are TOO GOOD AT VTUBING
sad

>half the generation does sexy-baby-voice
they belong on twitch getting into pointless pre-teen tier streamer drama, get the fuck away from a japanese company doing idol stuff.

>>54732231
mumei and fauna have nothing to worry about , they are kinda have their special space, but they will feel the heat 2 early back to back streams b4 their debut
rest are fucked,
better kronii
better bae aka the dogs the singer, the loli
remember to listen to mori
kek

>>54743376
Nerissa is a better Kronii in literally every conceivable way

>>54744947
It'll probably get better as time goes on. Although it is clearly still in the part of what she was before, she is giving it an odd tone that I believe is her trying to sell the weirdo girl angle further.

>>54735262
She is the Kiara of Advent, completely mediocre with an obsessed fanbase.

Mumei is drenched thinking about all the petting she's going to give and receive.

>>54745525
shiori is a really cute tryhard who's gonna be extremely scripted and strained for a while until she stops panicking

>>54746806
If she becomes ok 3 years from now I'll apologize although I feel like she'll pull a sana before that

>>54738772
SOMEBODY STOP HER SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>54745790
you don't watch streams

>>54746806
>the polar opposite of Kiara in every way
>she's the Kiara of Advent
?????

>>54735262
The solution is easy, don’t be a whore and it won’t happen, she can still be salvaged, no collabs have happened yet

>>54747194
yeah i don't. problem?

>>54747605
If she collabs is that the equivalent of having her hymen broken?
Is she pretty much done for after that?

>>54737064
Yeah the husbando list was a huge fucking red flag, even if we give her the benefit of the doubt on what she said towards the end, the husbando list does not bode well for the future

>>54747632
me too. so Gura is absolutely going to cry and shit herself on stream because she is losing fans to EN3

>>54745790
Wait wait wait who's the brapper?

>>54735381
Facts, i’m sure EN’s complacentcy has been frustrating for them and now that they have the chance, they’re gonna take it and run, fuwamoco and bijou are both looking like multiple streams a day/endurance stream type of chuubas

>>54732231
>All of the EN3 debuts have been stellar.
lmao

>>54748193
nerissa also is one hundred percent serious about becoming an actual real idol like the jp vsingers. it's clear she genuinely wants to create a vsinger market in the US and has big dreams

>>54747821
ye there can be no forgiveness when they do that. theyre used up whores.

>>54748193
The other ENs should be terrified. If these girls actually do have a stream schedule akin to Pekora, Miko, Watame or the other high output JPs they'll very quickly and very easily start eating up the fanbases of the ones who barely do anything. Chumbuds will definitely have their loyalty tested when Gura goes back to streaming once per week and multiple Advents are in that same slot every day.

Shat their pants
>Mori knew they were coming and was so desperate to regain viewers
>Kiara tried hard to retain KFPiss with new outfit rumao

Don't care
>CouncilRyS
>Ina
>Ame
>Goomba

Btfo once again Mythfag

>>54736256

>>54732231
Only Kronii got made redundant, the others will be fine

>>54749130
Sure thing Anon, Kiara is scared of EN3 she's been shilling them and was having kissy gay discord sex with Nerissa earlier kek

>>54732231
Why did you only use council? It’s joever for myth too

>>54751390
Because Myth is too entrenched as the original EN generation to be threatened, they have the legacy nostalgia buff.

>>54747214
well she already has a horde of antis that are seething nonstop about her for pretty much no reason, so she's basically Kiara 2.0.

>>54732231
honestly at this point Council girls have a more solid fanbase than Myth.
They actually feel like a cohesive unit

Once you get comfortable with a streamer you fall into the habit of watching them and it takes a big yab or a really long period of boredom for you to drop them. Over the period of 2-3 years all of the current hologirls should have picked up enough of these kinds of viewers to not worry too much.

Also, people keep on saying Nerissa will replace Kronii but unless if clockfags are the most superficial fanbase in en their personalities seem different.

>>54755229
nerissa won't get the kinds of kronies who still post in infinity, but there's definitely a huge segment who are into kronii's sexy voice and not so much into her brand of menhera. nerissa actually seems a bit normieish and basic but she's gonna win people over anime sports protagonist style

>>54750936
She knows her only hope of remaining relevant is leeching off them

They don't have to worry about them since they lacked any chemi in their collab when collab energy was strong with Council from the start. They are probably mirror of Myth more but instead of having to build it from the ground up with no map, the map is already set for them with what their predecessors did before but now more streamlined. You already got fragments of this with Holostars EN with debuting with a group original and that's what you'll be expecting going forward. Each gen will be perfecting the formula as they go along.

The one thing the twins have over every single over vtuber is that they'll stream together. One of the reasons why collabs can be really fun is the constant back and forth between two people (preferably friends), so if every stream has that fun back and forth they have the potential to mog every other holoen and make them all look boring in comparison.

>>54732231
Literally only Bijou's debut was good. Dogs were alright until the pledge. Nerissa came out as a cringe e-girl and Shiori was… You know

>>54757369
The pledge was so fucking cringe
Just blatant unicorn pandering and pathetic

>>54735262
Imagine giving a shirt what /vt thinks. None of them do

>>54757369
>>54757735
Sistertrannies fucking seething.
Unicorns are who the entirety of this industry are dedicated to. The ones who shit on unicorns are the outsiders trying to change things for the worse.

>>54732231
Yup, people think it's okay since they're the same company but they are still competing for views and super chats.
I'm gonna bet council super chats are going to start drying up.

>>54758168
I've been watching vtubers since 2018, I don't like male x female collabs either but unikeks have proven themselves to be devoid of any sanity.

>>54732231
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their unity is too strong

>>54748881
Gura is special she's the 1st and made vtuber global. truly global every weeb knows gura

>>54733010
Shiori is the best though

>>54758168
it's a known secret that unicorns are important to a vtuber, but they shouldn't be catered to

>>54759079
catering to unicorns is as simple as not collabing with males. i literally cannot think of anything easier than that.

>>54759262
their personality and content should be assessed first and foremost, not muh male collab

>>54759719
i can live with 1 of the first 2 qualities just fine, though both are preferable. both are irrelevant though if theyre going to collab with males.

>>54743137
This is unironically Kronii's greatest strength, a long term move that took a while to slowly cook.
Everything wrong she did so far actually contributes to it. Honestly she couldn't done a better job setting it up if she had tried to.
Her shitty bitch attitude, her way of throwing her fans under the bus, her whoring out with Tempus, her disrespect of her character model and her stubborn refusal to play along with the fanservice design she was given.
It makes her the perfect subject for a corruption and humiliation mind break arc.
The fact that she clearly hates it and did everything possible to reject it is what makes it work so well.
Cocky prudish bitches with huge tits like her are the norm in such porn genre.
If she's ever desperate enough she will always have that resource as an option in case of emergency.
>>54743771
3D basically fixes her model, and she's fine in fanart. What matters is that she has huge tits and her default costume has a massive underboob. Her anatomy is all sorts of fucked so she's better the less you actually see her but most of the time as a vtuber people only need to see a girl from the chest up anyway.
She only looked like slenderman that one stream where she purposely showed her full body.

>>54732231
I think they're happy to get new friends to stream with and I think you need to remove your head from your anus

>>54763387
Anon you're looping, you already posted this

>>54733010
Worse than Bae

It’s gonna be weird seeing the new gen pass council

>>54735262
It isn't too late to graduate Shiori

>>54766514
It’s going to be hilarious seeing the new Gen pass Council

>>54740800
Too much pride being an independent western woman
No she will not do that

>>54732231
They're all living incredibly comfortably, kept busy by their job, have a supportive fanbase and Advent doesn't change any of that.
Only number obsessed faggots like yourself do.
Instead of terrified, they're excited by new girls that they can get to know and become friends with, especially the Myth/Council members who are EOPs.

>>54766514
both vt and normies remember how dreadfully boring council was. IF gen 3 is legitimately more entertaining it's only right that it happens.

>>54735262
The schizos here likes to spin narratives in their head to satisfy their ego and hate on something. Nothing new.

>>54732231
Mumei secured autistic little sister experience so she will be fine and I'll keep watching her, maybe Rissa and Bijou

>>54743137
She's a trainwreck

Why are people shitting on that menhera looking girl? Why are you seeking idols outside of JP? Western women don’t get idol culture. Until now the most idol-like talent, Kiara, is someone disliked by a lot of people here.
If you think you will get, say, an english speaking Marine, Pekora, Subaru or Miko you need to wake up. They are like that because they were born and raised in a culture where such expectations on women are ok, which is absolutely not the case in the west.
If you want idols watch JP, if you want regular streamers using anime avatars watch EN. Exceptions might show up from time to time but it’s futile to have said expectations for the norm of EN streamers.

Kronii status?
>mogged
Irys status?
>Challenged
Sana status?
>playing honkai star rail

>>54766514
They deserve it.

>>54767369
Kronii status?
>fine
IRyS status?
>fine
Sana status?
>playing honkai star rail

>>54743376
a real comedienne her folks lmao

>>54767354
Brown manlets need to feel big somehow.

>>54732231
Not anymore than the half a dozen or so JP gens that all stream over each other. They fill niches and develop fanbases. Chuubas that can't maintain a good act will graduate. Simple as.

>>54735262
>Shiori
>I am going to colab with males
>FuwaMoco
>We promise to protect your smiles

God I can't believe why people hate her

>>54733340
Oh yeah, I'd enter her repeatedly if you know what I mean

>>54748100
I’d assume Mori. There was a stream long time ago where she just exploded the toilet and everyone heard it

>>54735454
perhaps old habits?
they've all been here at some point
this place is the public bathroom drain of chuubadom; everything flows through here at some point, either into the drain or being vomited out from it

I pray all shitposting unicorns die

I don't understand a lot of fanbases, so I can't comment on that. Kronii's greatest asset seems to be her voice from what I've always read. Nerissa has that and seems more pleasant. I don't enjoy Kronii's negativity.
Gura's fanbase has Bijou and FuwaMoco to watch now. They both have their appeal to the pedos and children who watch her. I used to watch some Gura and her latest stuff feels really stale.
I think all will lose some viewers and SC money, but they make most of their money outside that... right?
Shiori spent her whole debut throwing in awkward pandering. I was forgiving it the whole time, but it even seemed scripted. Then she got to the end and did the weird collab warning. It was very jarring to warn your viewers they may not like your collab partners, or some weird shit about them maybe or maybe not being friends?!