/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Don't worry mysta will probably in tempiss 3 sister.

>>54660293
I clicked the video and first thing he says "so many people don't see us as people". My nigger, do you see your viewers as people? As an individuals? Fuck no, then why should they do the same for you. It's not a jab at male chuubers, but I hate when chuubas complain about this shit.

>>54660691
This

>>54660691
The absolute state of Mystakes

>>54660691
>My nigger, do you see your viewers as people?

When people talk about parasocialness. The streamer is the one who gets afflicted by it more often than the viewers. The relationship is fan and creator, a friendly relationship based on mutual gain. But when streamers get parasocial they start freaking out that they are seen as a commodity instead of a person.

>>54660691
Sister...you might be a sociopath.

>>54660293
I dont get it. Was mysta being bullied by his own fans? What kind of a fanbase unironically bullies their oshi to graduation?

>>54660293
While I do agree that toxic fans are bad, but they keep doing this shit where the only thing they see in chat is that hate/anti comment,
and then bringing up and destroying the mood of a stream.
Like i get it, its hard to concentrate when you see that shit but you don't have to comment about them all the time, that's why you get mods to filter those shit out or even better, fucking man up and ignore them.

Its not even a joke that every stream they do, all they talk about is this shit.
Without streaming or having the ability to earn online, these guys will never survive the real world.

>>54661175
NTA, but this is a conversation this board already had during the Rushia meltdown. It's pretty pathetic to go deep into exploiting the mentally ill on the internet for monetary gain and then whine about their behavior. Who's the sociopath really?

>>54660691
And they say that unicorns are the problem...

>>54660293
>so many people don't see us as people
he says with that freaky furry nose, pointy ears, and horns sticking out his forhead.

>>54661229
Nijiniggers.
They're that toxic.

>>54661008
I don't watch males or nijisanji.
>>54661094
What mutual gain? One gets money and huge self esteem boost, viewers get....entertainment? Delusional fiction that they are dating? I wouldn't call it a very mutual gain.
Honestly I think, it's up to streamer to be treated as a person, how he presents himself at the start and the way he builds himself to his audience, ofcourse if he pretends to be a boytoy for a good aprt of his career, they won't treat him as a person, but dudes don't really survive otherwise in vtubing, if you want to be treated as a person in vtubing being a male, might as well just be a streamer.

>>54661229
Or was mysta too much of a pussy that he cant handle simple banter with his own fans.? What is going on

>>54660293
Even putting aside my general disdain for Vox, and fujobaiters in general - this is literally a "learn to take words" moment. So many normies shouldn't be allowed on the internet because they can't take ""negativity"". It's pathetic. Grow up - you're an adult man ffs.

>>54661574
>viewers get....entertainment? Delusional fiction that they are dating? I wouldn't call it a very mutual gain.

The same applies to moves/books/video games.

>>54661229
Nijisisters literally use a doxxsite as a chatroom. They are even crazier than male unicorns. And then you have the chinese fans which are another grade of having no conscience and justifying their bad behavior constantly. It's always the guy's fault they act the way they do. In some cases yes, but there's still no personal responsibility from the fanbase at all.

>>54661175
>>54661390
I did not ask you to show me your content or to continue sharing increasingly excessive and personal content, beliefs, opinions online
I did not ask you to profit from my attention or interest, and no one else did, either
Viewers click on to be entertained and you cannot dictate what form that entertainment takes, "real" celebrities have dealt with much worse for much longer, and they handle it - in aggregate - with more grace (and more drugs)
Vox got to his real message at 5:15, more succinct, more impactful, and that should have been his entire comment. Amateurs, by 2025 perhaps pissy vtubers will learn how to work a crowd and get the response they want instead of the response they deserve.

>>54661715
Why have you been attaching luna to your hateful rants

>>54660293
wait who is mysta again?
is he from Tempus

>are you happy now?
This the same guy who participated in the group chat stream saying this? ahahahahhahahahahaha.

>>54662307
it's a mystary

>>54662251
Luna got bullied quit nijisanji then adopt by yagoo

>>54661715
they were doxing him and sending hate to his mom and stuff
Vox had people directly calling his phone number and doxing him based off a photo of a dry plate of pasta

>>54660293
>Shu is also going to graduate soon
3 remaining. Your boy band will crumble.

>>54660293
oshi no ko ruined a whole generation of vtubers, now they all are outspoken experts on vtuber troubles

>>54660293
I don’t want to get lectured by a grown ass man, from the UK of all the places.

>>54662661
handle it like a normal person in this position, report anyone retarded enough to your legal team and let them eviscerate the people dumb enough to go in unprotected, change your phone numbers to a secure line, and come to grips with now being famous enough your identity is a matter of public knowledge
what do you people think the point of having a corporation behind you is? if Nijisanji isn't willing to back you under minimal duress as part of their responsibility as your agents and managers, then simply quit (or take advantage of transnational status to unionize I guess), you have no future with the company otherwise

>>54661344
This. His fans are unhinged but he never even tried to ignore those comments, giving ammo tho those who get off to attention, which also turned him into a menhera doing everything in his power to piss off those schizos just like Mori, except his skin is thinner than paper. Pretty sure being /here/ also rotted his brain. His downward spiral was not his fans' fault alone

>>54663188
>Nijisanji isn't willing to back you under minimal duress

Yeah that's the problem
They'll release PR statements about their "joint efforts to combat slander" and shit but it doesn't apply to anyone but JP

>I wanna make this clear
>I'm just gonna say people have the wrong idea of what it is that is making me leave
>A lot of people - like, even now in the chat - it's not like, the hatred
>I don't like it - I don't like the hatred, no-one likes the hatred
>But it's not that, okay?
>I feel bad about it because I feel like people latched onto that one thing and now they're giving me so many sympathy points when that's not -
>I feel like I'm getting sympathy points for nothing
>It makes me feel icky
https://www.youtube.com/live/gpt2rvnaOMk?feature=share
2:37:00

>>54663224
Mori spun the cringe hatemob harvesting into free song ideas and multiple EPs and has been relatively mentally stable ever since, so the comparison reflects even more poorly on Vox/Mysta/etc. than one might think

>>54663027
it make sense

>>54661229
>>54661651
Vox is projecting, Mysta specifically denied hate being the reason he's graduating.

>>54661651
Mysta is notoriously easy to work up, and that's unfortunately a fact. He can easily be baited with troll superchats even when there's a stream full of thousands of women fawning over him. Of course, he's not always wrong either because Luxiem fans also use the doxsite, but at the same time Luxiem did not help themselves in the long term either by pandering to said fans in the first place with Twitch/normalfag-tier drama and content. Nevermind turning some Nijimales themselves into walking gigolos, that's another reason why their fans just don't seem to respect them whenever they try and put their foot down. They'll always walk it back later because they know the talents need the money more than anything.

Speaking in general terms, does it just not worry people that we've been almost trained by the nature of media to remove our humanity when interacting with them?

>>54664286
>worry people
no, most people are pretty sane and normal about most content creators and it is a tiny minority who decide to seek their fun in more interesting ways
unless you want to systematically weed out psychopaths feat. gene editing there's no solution other than to simply arrest the ones who are crazy stupid and manage the ones who are crazy smart appropriately - not like this lmao

The man with possibly the worst fanbase in all of EN vtubing is projecting hard. You reap what you sow

remember: its okay when Hololive does it

nijiSister's

>>54665037
Nobody gives a shit about 3view shitter

>>54664403
The question is how do you manage them? Just train yourself to never get one-guyed or look online and hope your group's legal team actually does something?

>>54665037
I didn't know someone like this exists in hololive lol

>>54666164
even this guy exist LMAO!

>>54666299
or this one RURO!

Don't do content that disproportionally attracts schizos even if it's lucrative. Don't try to "own" the schizos. Don't use the same devices for work and daily life. Don't post pictures, ever. It's not that fucking complicated.

>>54666434
>he doesn't know about lord hajime and the antis from 2ch

What a fucking retarded newfag, look at this dude, he probably start to watch vtubers when holoEN debuted

>>54665037
It doesn't even work in HoloSTARS.

So even with a co-ed environment they actually have more fanbase problems thanks to female fans.

>>54660691
This, I only watch girls but I assume the same thing happens with male vtubers. As viewers we are just names flying by in the chat, while they have a fully rigged model capable of showing most of their emotions. With 4views, most of the meaningful interactions you can get as an individual is through donations. Which one is easy to dehumanize?

>>54660293
Deserved tho, it's just consequences of their own actions

>Male vtuber = full of faggot crying and whining on stream all the time
>Male vtuber fan = subhuman psychopath

>>54667936
>subhuman psychopath
That's me. I run your local tax office.

>>54667300
'Twas ever thus. Not even the niggerest nog is more "dinduniffin" than the average nerd girl.

>Damn... what a toxic fanbase..

Also /vt/
SHIORI IS A WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>54660691
Except you don't see streamers treating viewers like their money bags.

>>54668195
No proof this was done by female fans btw, the OP of the thread claiming as much made it up.

>>54663188
Remember Lulu? Nijisanji sure didn't.

>>54662207
>"real" celebrities have dealt with much worse for much longer, and they handle it - in aggregate - with more grace (and more drugs)
You've never seen celebrities just disappear?

>>54660691
It's just plain harder for a streamer to see of you, what you see of them. It's an asymmetrical relationship.

Vox became kinda based after all the initial controversy

>>54668268
>still using the poorly edited nijicope image

>>54668268