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>Joins Small VTuber Agency
>The CEO seems really dedicated and has large budget
>Very kind and responsive
>Suddenly starts ghosting
>Me and the other gen 1 girls have a meeting with her and she says that she will hire a manager because she is very busy
>Get ghosted again
>Decide to do everything ourselves and start working and planning tirelessly for debut
>Randomly get recommended a twitter post from one of CEOs *many* alt accounts
>Find out she is a notorious scammer and has been scamming artists and begging for money for months
What do I do bros? I'm so sad and hurt over this and it feels really demotivating. I just want to stream and it feel like all my hard work has been for nothing...
It felt like I finally found friends and a place to belong and now its all gone.

>> No.54632798

Phase Connect Lumi

>> No.54632832

>>54632715
nothing is stopping you from hitting the button

>> No.54633095

\you can still salvage something. as you said you found friends, bail out and start a group with them

>> No.54633403

>>54632715
Why can't you just stream with the other people you were gonna debut with? Pretend is just a clan and stream under the same brand/banner or whatever, so it's easier to be discovered.

>> No.54633418

>>54632715
dont use wifey for your random catalog threads thanks

>> No.54633645

take a page out of the wactor book and just flee with all of your friends

>> No.54633730

>>54632832
>>54633403
We are trying to figure out what to do about models and stuff right now and reaching out to artists.

>>54633645
We are 100% leaving! Just trying to make sense of the situation, I guess

>> No.54633757

How the fuck did you get scammed? Did you give your boss money to get models for you?

>> No.54633893

>>54632715
Up to you to gain a following and to keep it even after leaving this corporate hellhole. Also, a female CEO was a huge red flag you should have paid attention to.

>> No.54634037

>>54633645
>take a page out of the wactor book and just flee with all of your friends
Did the whale idol go free willy already?

>> No.54634049

>>54632715
Reeks of larp.

>> No.54634099

stop shitting up the catalog with this and get a fucking lawyer retard

>> No.54634106

Are you really sure the CEO is scamming artists as you say? Maybe she's just late on some payments, artists are notoriously whiny and if they are not paid immediately they will act like they were ripped off even if the pay is coming a couple days later.
I'd say stick to the friends you made, either debut with the company or debut together later as indies.
If your CEO really did scam people there's a chance your models are not paid and will cause drama later. This means you might have to stop using them.
But that doesn't mean you shouldn't use them, the whole situation and the drama would still be good publicity for you.
The hardest part of being a vtuber is getting any audience at all early on. If you debut with the company along your new friends you will at least get some audience and even if later you do have to give up the models at least you still have that initial audience.
Even in the worst case scenario if the company goes under you can take your audience when you go indie so it's not an entire loss for you.
So that's my advice.
Debut however you can, stick to your new friends, but be ready to pull the plug and move indie if needed or change to a new model.
I'd even be prepared for it with a cheap basic model for when that day comes, something temporary to use until your audience can help you fund something better later. Plenty premade generic slightly customizable models out there for cheap.
And who knows maybe your CEO manages to figure out how to pay for all that shit in time to keep the company going after all.

>> No.54634299

>>54633757
She was scamming artists, not really us. Her past personas were lying and stealing money, tracing AI art, and ghosting commissions. I guess the agency is some elaborate scam, but I couldn't tell you.
The only thing we lost is a lot of time.

>>54634106
She is 100% scamming artists and is banned from a lot of places because of it. The artist hadn't even reached out after getting payment ghosted because the CEO claimed she was in hospital.

>> No.54634447

>>54632715
EIEN?

>> No.54634469

Lol. Lmao even.

>> No.54634661

>>54634299
>tracing AI art
Based

>> No.54634855

>>54632715
I'm so sorry you joined Idol corp anon

>> No.54634971

>>54632715
>CEO
>her
run

>> No.54635288

>>54632715
At the very least you can try to stay connected with the other girls and try to pull together as png tubers and save up for some proper models. Don't let your memes be dreams.

>> No.54635352

>>54632715
The main questions are: did you signed contract and can you redeem model from CEO. Think about it and make your choise carefully

>> No.54635484

Real shit show situation, if your model was not properly paid to the artist maybe you could pay them directly and cut ties with the CEO entirely if you really want to keep it.

>> No.54635778

>>54632715
>She
Is this Kawai?

>> No.54635973

>>54634855
The smartest anti

>> No.54636161

>>54635778
presumably not, since their ceo is a dude and the op is talking about being gen 1.

>> No.54636172

>>54632715
There's some really cheap 2D rigs out there if you pay, pool your group's money, tell the artists that you're going indy to fuck over CEO and see if they'll give you a "Fuck that blacklisted bitch" discount.

>> No.54636262

Buy an AD.

>> No.54636564

>>54634447
>>54634855
>>54635778
not gunna state where for obvious reasons. This was mostly just a vent post sorry

>> No.54636698

https://twitter.com/ReHOPE_Corp ?
I have no idea what gender or who the CEO is though.

>> No.54636862

>>54635973
Its idol corp
>large budget
>CEO has many alts
>scamming and begging for money
>doesn't pay artists
>no managers
There isn't a single other company this applies to
OP, get out while you can ASAP and I hope to god you read the contract
If not only a lawyer can help you

>> No.54637332

>>54632715
show us your tits OP

>> No.54637383

>>54636862
I think you'll find idol gen 1 was launched quite some time ago.

>> No.54637485

>>54636698
Why does these companies take so long to debut, might as well leave at that point.

>> No.54637497

>>54636564
Just shitposting, you'd be stupid to even namedrop the company

>> No.54637723

>>54637332
oh of course! sorry, i forgot :(
https://files.catbox.moe/qh0x77.png

>> No.54637979

>>54632715
You and your friends should jump ship before it sinks. Maybe debut as indie png tubers, and try for larger companies.

I wish you luck and I hope to watch your content!

>> No.54638508

>>54637723
ToT

>> No.54638666

>>54632715
>female CEO
your first mistake

>> No.54639195

>>54637723
>>54637723
You're a good one OP, hope we can catch you whenever you pop up the next time

>> No.54640734

>>54634106
>Maybe she's just late on some payments, artists are notoriously whiny and if they are not paid immediately they will act like they were ripped off even if the pay is coming a couple days later.
>sorry anon, I know you stayed late at the office every day for the last month to make sure the product launch goes off well, bland I know it's pay day, but I'm just not gonna give you your money. Sorry what are you saying? Your mortgage payments have been late the last 3 months because I never pay you on time? Your electricity bills too? They're gonna shut your power off and it's been over 100 degrees out most days this summer? Why are you whining to me about that?
Pay your fucking workers you thieving little fuck this isn't a goddamn charity.

>> No.54641088

Either Mel started a new scam corpo in the background because she herself lost hard on last iteration or this is is about exoe

>> No.54641580

Salvage what you can. I think you should do what this anon said >>54633403 while ya'll recover.

>> No.54641792

>>54637723
You didn't even debut and I already want my money back

>> No.54642968

>>54632715
The average male is so starved for positive attention that even a simple complement will get them to worship you left and right with money tributes.

>> No.54643442

>>54634447
>ceo
>her
there is only one small company with a female ceo who used to be an artist

>> No.54645939

-Consider getting a lawyer, if you can, get them to understand your contract in depth
-Don't be like the typical exploited newbie who cucks to any abuse
-Unironically DM someone who has been in a similar situation, like Lumi, and ask for advice.

>> No.54647233

>>54636862
Love how selective and vindictive you are. Are you the artist that was "scammed" with getting 150% the amount negotiated because you failed to actually give them the invoice?

>> No.54647436

>>54636862
>no managers
Why are phase-cucked idol antis so bad at info gathering?

>> No.54647540

We've cut all contact and are making plans to debut independently! ty for listening to my vent thread anons

>> No.54647599

>>54647540
Can you actually post tits now?

>> No.54647698

YOU KNOW THE RULES
THEY BETTER BE AT LEAST NOVA SIZED

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54647720

>>54632715
>want to stream
>need a company for that

>> No.54647862

>>54647540
Where can we find you?

>> No.54647977

>>54647599
I'm sure it's a guy. They will forever remain pre-debut like most of the others

>> No.54652296

>>54632715
I hope things work out for you OP, you seem like a nice girl

>> No.54655031
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54655031

>>54645939
>Consider getting a lawyer

>> No.54655948

>>54632715
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgG4oDinIDE
just stream dawg

>> No.54656296

>>54632715
You need to be told this? Quit and find another agency to join, preferably one which isn't a giant red flag.

>> No.54657869

Please don't use my wife for your catalognigger ramblings, thanks.

>> No.54658663

>>54657869
what are you gonna do about it, shondokek?

>> No.54662153

>>54634299
You can claim you "want to pay to the artist yourself" more in line you are kinda zchizo and have such preferences, people may look weird at you but you can be sure your artist are being paid
then debut, and if thing go south you can go independant, if not, continue but keep an eye on

>> No.54662448

>>54632715
Please don't use images of my wife to shitpost. Thanks

>> No.54662929

>>54632715
Try to use all connections and assets that you can use and try start anew

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54662949

>>54645939
>>54655031
>Consider getting a lawyer
A good lawyer costs $500/hr
It's easier and probably cheaper to buy a new model

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