/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>54616878
Grim. Didn't Council have like 500k subs after debut but before cull?

bots

Jesus, sisters are taking a tiny detail and start running with it like some sort of truth. Why are you doing this?

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>54616144
80% of the time it does and she has an esl accent

GRIM

The twins will save us..

well, they broke the EN records i guess

Will tomorrow's debuts do better? They have more potential but don't have the benefit of the Summer relay funneling a free 40k JP viewers to them immediately.

Omega im not feeling so good...

>catalog completely taken over by EN3 debuts
Yeah I'd say holoEN is back for now.

What did you expect? She said she likes parasites and insects.

>>54617381
Shiroko sexo

2 years...

>>54617381
Oh not this shitpost again.
Also, they debuted in relay so it's not really the same at all.

Kek, this might be the most confusing gen in Hololive history regarding /vt/ stance on them

i really liked bijou

PEBBLEPHILES, HOW WE FEELING?

>>54616878
Already mogging Vesper kek

>>54617492
They have no drama to use. Literally grasping at straws

How far will myth and councilrys numbers fall once en3 start streamijg regulary

>2 got over 100k sisters
So i'm waiting to get my dick suck

>>54617381
the moggin nijien is gonna get will be unbelivable.

>>54616752
She didn't say collabing with homos directly but her exact quote was

>"I'll be collaborating with friends or people who may be potential friends"

> Mori is the canary
Kek. She cant taint tomorrows debuts since shes in thewatchalong. Based Management

DIGGERS GET THE ROPE

>>54617492
People somehow gotta doom post two 125k debuts.

>>54617546
LOL

>>54616281
At least wait a month there’s still the collab ban

>>54615759
>Mori
>Towa
>Botan
>La+

Bijou cute

>I will only collab with anyone I want
>AIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE SHE WILL COLLAB WITH HOMOS
Jesas

Shiori really talked about her husbandos on debut stream
Let that sink in

>>54617450
yeah, EN3 didn't even manage to get half of 750k subscribers pre-debut. FLOPPED

Jewel masterfully integrated something as memey as a fucking Rock into her character and wasn't too abrasive about it
She'll go far

Rock girl and raven woman seem like the best this gen

So far the rock cunny is carrying really hard

>>54617616
Good, better to let their actual content dictate how you feel about them than relying on JUST debuts.

>>54617659
gonna be all of them anon

>>54616841
As a Hololive debut, Bijou did everything right IMO. Even redirected to Ninja at the end as a cherry on the top. Fags can moan about FFXIV all they want but game choices can be fixed, attitude can't.

How long will it take for Bijou to blow past Shiori in subs? That was brutal mogging.

https://www.youtube.com/live/EwGAcKnE-y4?feature=share&t=2549
small corpofags and sisters are really desperate huh the numbers made them shit there pants.

>>54616694
You still don't buy shit and your streaming scene is heavily focused on dogshit like fifa, fleshy screamer dickheads and native language creators. You're not worth it and never have been so either fuck up or just leave. Had it up to pussy's bow with you four whiny cunts that pretend you watch JPs.

It’s weird that she set herself up to either piss off unicorns or homobeggars.

Jwu
how GRIM was holoAdvent DAY1?

So far 2/5 after good girls.

So what's the initial verdict? I feel like Shiori is going out of her way to filter her audiences firsthand while rockloli is pulling all the tricks to grab her share, with the exception of the debuff games, but maybe FFXIV might be a buff if she can somehow make it kino.

>shiori was boring as sin but went up to 125k and then flatlines
>potential homocollaber
>be jew peaked higher and then hemorrhages ccv
>awful game choices
So who's the designated runt of EN3?

twins not the most subbed any more
can they recover tomorrow?

kek even Bae one of the biggest homolovers in the company doesn't see Tempiss & Tempoop as her kouhai

>>54617722
>At least wait a month there’s still the collab ban
Popular demand...

why hasn't anyone talked about the #pebbesona play being marketing 101 200IQ tactics? just look at the her engagement that will boost her NUMBERS bigly. KNEEL

>54616281
Is this a so-called unicorn or a falseflagger?

>>54617536
Probably not in terms of numbers, for the reason you gave. I hope they do, though.

>join hololive and your goal is to collab outside of hololive and with homos
Oh fuck off go back to being a 2view.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/48205962/
>lalafel
Dropped like a rock

>>54617684
and where does she says anything about the homo?

>>54617894
Number wise, it was 125k+ for both.

>>54617764
>same with irys

ok boys, EN atishi was a bust today
we'll get them tomorrow

Alright, we dipped below 400%, should be back to normal when Gotalu start
I think we've already won as a board, regardless of what will happened next week.

Let's be real, Shiori only got in because of Yagoo saviorfagging the OG's

>>54617826
So they'll fall to nijisanji numbers?
GRIM

>>54617872
I'm gonna start shilling for the EU now

Watching this entire relay in sequence and capping off with the premieres, a part of me genuinely wonders if we'll one day see Hololive (or something like it) as a Youtube channel network that resembles something more like linear TV.

Like, a casual viewer would essentially have a Hololive "channel" that they could just flip on, and you would be able to watch live Hololive content in sequence covering most of a given day that would consist of a mix of broadcasts and VODs. If all of this will theoretically be the replacement for linear television one day, I wonder when we would eventually transition into that kind of next step.

>>54617702
So you mean dwarves?

>>54617684
Anyone who cant see what she means is literally an ESL

>I will be collabing with friends and potential friends
>now this is possibly quite rare simply because I have to study people - I have to study characters to understand them
>the more often you see them the more likely they have reached friend status, but you will not really know unless I mention so please respect those around me
Going back and re-listening, is she actually just trying to say that collabs will be rare in general and people shouldn't bother her or others to do them?

Biden's cover is actually good.

>>54617684
Just post the full thing, it's very on the face.

>"Regarding collaborations. I'll be collaborating with friends and people who may be potential friends. The more often you see them the more likely they have reached friend status. Please respect those around me. I will not tolerate disrespect, please be kind. If I am not the one that can make you smile that's ok."

>>54617894
as predicted sub 130k good numbers.

>>54617923
shiori, i can`t imagine crow and the twins being more boring than her

>>54618029
Anon you are replying to a guy who has been samefagging (this time too) the same two pictures for literally 30 threads in a row

Bijou > Shiori not even close

>>54617764
yeah and?

Sisters, hololive won. It's joever. How the hell vshojo and niji en can even do to compete??

>Perfectly calm in front of 128k viewers
>Smoothly integrated memes and jokes from pre-debut into presentation
>Didn't linger too long on any point
>Cute and creative jokes, good obs transitions, great setup for fan interaction with low bar of entry that might psychologically entrap some of the 100k tourists to get attached
>Cover post debut into raiding main holos

Schedule aside that was probably the strongest debut in hololive history in terms of pure performance.

>>54617687
Bae will take her job.

>>54615892
I said this in another thread, but if she is the type of girl that has a lot of anime husbands and plans to collab with guys I wouldn't believe in her being GFE, she won't behave while being close to ''anime boys'' designs

what was the combined ccv with the watchalong?

How much viewership do NijiEN debuts usually get?

>>54617969
actually this lmao

god damn, bijou's debut was extremely polished

Say hi to Mori

>>54618072
bitch i don't care. wait 2 months. this is shitposting time

>I'll be collabbing with friends and people who are maybe potential friends. Now this is possibly quite rare simply because I need to study people. I have to study characters to understand them. The more often you see them the more likely they've reached friend status. But you won't really know unless I mention so. So please respect those around me ok? You want to be a good boy for me, don't you?
>I wish for all of you to simply smile. And if I'm not the one who can make you smile that is ok.
What did she mean by this, bros?

>>54617912
Shiori will be the runt of her gen based off of content type, Rockloli is gonna be a bit rough numberswise due to content (But can be fixed with better games).
I'll put Rockloli above Shiori in the long run.

remember to watch my wife sing in 12 minutes

https://twitter.com/dvckyVT/status/1685502751411982336

Tries to numberfag

What’s the consensus?
Dangerous gfe
Or
Non gfe rock cult community

>>54617923
shiori the bae of en3
jewel still has loli buff than can come in clutch

Shiori's gonna collab with her twitch indie friends and vshojo friends....
The absolute state of covers hiring process

>>54618046
Go ahead, not like the thread can get any worse or more repetitive.

>>54618106
full woman moment during debut, she applied for the wrong corpo

>>54617975
LMAO

>>54617536
Twins have the most hype behind them due to PL knowledge and gimmick, two people in one debut I could expect record breaking numbers honestly if not for that dumb watchalong gimmick.

>>54618072
I don't really care until she does something about lmao. Why pulling hairs about it.

en3 100k streams
2/5
myth 100k streams
4/5

After reading the end of last thread you guys honestly started to sound like nijisisters with how fucking gay you were
>OMg DEBUFF THIS
>OMG DEBUFF THAT
>WAAAA
What, you want people to fucking do celebration streams and nonstop tierlists all the fucking time to the point where buff streams stop being buff because it becomes normal? Let them play some random shit so people can get a feel on them

AND THE WORST PART IS THE REST OF THE SCHEDULES ARE TOP TIER TOO AND YOU STILL COMPLAIN

>>54618072
Yeah, but you can't expect people to get that when they are salivating about something to shitpost about.
She might do it in the future, but there is no reason to throw a fit already.

>>54617982
>towa
there

Bijoufags have to constantly deflect to Shiori and doompost about vague collab boilerplate just to make their reclining loli look good

>>54618215
>using the wiki for numbers
kek what a faggot

>Numbers poison content
They are really testing the waters hard during debut buff week. But my intuition says more videogames will ultimately win out, even long niche videogames.

>>54617450
Trying this again, faggot?

>>54618072
Nigga it's always been the case. these retards just shitposting by twisting her words.

>>54617753
>first stream is a ""vtuber"" history stream
>not a hololive history stream
yeah, it's actually worse, it's another "break the hololive bubble" whore

>>54618142
i am genuinely impressed by there mentalillness.

>>54618215
Didn't this dude have an autistic meltdown about Kiara for some stupid reason?

>>54618169
lets hope the others stay with us

>>54618072
>>54618106

>>54617872
based

Bijou blew past my expectations, that was a very good debut with some good ass content.

Shiori though man... why tf would you spend your whole career in mediocrity, get a golden fucking ticket with an opportunity to change, only to just go back to the same content that made you wallow in mediocrity? Some women just can't help themselves I guess.

Oh well, I still have high hopes for the three (two) tomorrow. I'd take a 3/4 on the watchable list.

>>54617975
Anon, if she was anything BUT a yeetable 'tater, it'd just be wrong all things considered.

Shiori strikes me as someone who will declare war on her fans because she thinks they're the problem. Bijou strikes me as someone who will patronize her fans but at least be nice to them and play along.

I'm not seeing the added benefit, we already have both of that.

>wants to play learn games to play with hololive girls
>cute and funny
>loves hololive
>shilled holo summer
>raided iroha from her song cover
I see a bright future for those who understand the assignment.

>>54618249
>non gfe
Are you retarded

>>54618072
The optimistic view is she's just asking people not to collab beg in general
GRIM view is incoming homo and e-celeb collabs

>>54617953
Anons are too busy thinking about homo dick. But I agree with you and she seems to have good grasp on fan interraction in general.

>>54618199
it was obvious from the beginning...
the cancer is still spreading thanks to Mori

>>54617928
?????? I didnt watch the watchalong. What she say?

Now the real question is what tomorrow's numbers will look like without the Holosummer relay to lead into them.

>>54617684
>didn't say collabing with homos directly
She also didn't directly say that she was going to collab with the president of Uzbekistan

>>54618332
>overused joke

>>54618143
Shiori > Powergap > Bijou

>>54618106
You didn't even post the full thing yourself though >>54618072

>>54618169
Shiori is on probation until 2024

>Got recommended https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1tNfS1bEfw
>Oh cute snek lady I remember from like 2 years ago
>She starts singing
HOLY SHIT SHE HAS IMPROVED A LOT IN THE LAST 2 YEARS

>Bijoufags
>Shiorikeks
I see the sisters are starting to use their favorite tactic, huh?

>>54617764
If she is mentioning her husbandos then she is safe.

>>54618072
So /stars/ is seething for some reason, what's /mans/ reaction so far? I'd expect it to be worse.

>>54618072
not taking any chances until I see her prove otherwise
I'll come back if she proves us wrong

>>54618106
>if I collab with Mori a lot, please don't disrespect her
This is what I'm getting here

>>54618072
I'm willing to give her a chance, I don't like judging people that harshly from the beginning. She does look pretty introverted tho.

Bijou is damn close to perfection if it weren't for that games selection.

>>54618545
holo vs holo is based. prepare to see Kronii killer tomorrow

>>54617969
And do it while GFE baiting hard. Like, is she an actual idiot?

>>54618106
They pulled the Hakos Baelz strategy but worded in a way that may give one false hope. An EN intern is definitely reading the tips that anons post here.

>>54617975
>Sage
>Full crafted gear
Wonder how prepared she really is.

>>54617830
While FF14 will get shit streaming numbers, raiding with viewers is the type of thing that gets people to stick with you

>>54618259
Maybe good, maybe bad. You can see how it worked for Suisei, and its only Suisei because being patient and persistent works against Cover more than being menhera on twitter and in streams.

>>54618199
kek she better not be /here/
this place is ripping her apart

You lost.

>>54618163
It wasn't 128k she dropped 10k in her Debut because she was fucking boring you fucking tard

>>54618537
nigga she made a song for hololive recently.

Dokoooo? >>54530642

>>54618013
unironically yeah but that means he Savior fagged a OG and a 2view. The twins are basically 100% confirmed if we managed to pinpoint these 2 girls.

That just leaves Narissa, her actions dont match up with the VA chick but she might be doing a complete 180 who knows

>>54618327
Stuff like ff14 is streamer poison. Just be glad it's one day.

>>54618072
EN VESPER LETS GOOOOO!

Will Kronii 2.0 or the twins overlap Gura?

>>54617975
>nolifed a new character after getting hired pre-debut
Kinda based but FFXIV is streamcancer, hope one of the girls can convince her to drop it

QUESTION
Is Iroha's frame flashing black occasionally for anyone else?

>>54618072
HARD COPE

>>54617975
SEX RACE

>>54617830
Also, her going straight to raiding instead of starting a 200 hour game from the very beginning gives more potential for numbers, at least relatively

>>54618072
anon pls you really want to invest in her but is on cope mode

>>54618029
yes and nijien will fall to nijiid numbers anon since the vtubing audience is finite

>>54618072
There was literally NO NEED for this. NOT A SINGLE FUCKING HOLO has needed to say this. This was a dumb fucking woman moment at best, and a hint of what's to come at worst. She's a fucking idiot.

>>54618106
>Groomed by Mori
It's unironically over for her

>>54618211
>genmates
>holos
she did say collabs will be rare lets see depending on her content she might not have chances to interact with people much outside of hololive.

>>54618169
>the preditction was right from the start
>we just needed to split the dogs

>>54618654
Who do you think posts those "chu" with Kari pics?

>>54618674
we're partying sis

>>54617616
Well that’s because this place has become a hololive hug box. Any dissent makes you a sister until you turn out to be right then they try to rationalize it

>>54618072
sisters like to twist words so she's still 8.5/10 rushia levels to me

I stand by my words,
>Bijou - Pekora
>Neri - Marine
>Shiori - Rushia
>Twins - FlarexNoel

>complaining about how much time someone sings
Literally Stephen Colbert crying about 2 scoops tier.

>>54617536
>no funnel
>workday in Japan
Lol it's over.

>>54617975
>Faerie

>>54618215
>Reporting Z peaks
Lmao

>>54618435
They hired her for a reason anon, and it wasn't to reinvent herself from the ground up.

They want what she does. Cover builds themselves on hidden gems and streamers who "spend [their] whole career in mediocrity."

>>54618676
Seethe of the dying browns

RIRISYA 1000 DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>54618646
It is risky to do that tho. Ever wonder why Holo don't play MMO? Because their fanbase are too big and they will have to constantly tardwrangle them

>>54618211
She wants to collab with random 3views from her PL desu

Grimgang is so back, you'll never get rid of us

>>54618683
I know, but I haven't actually watched her in years
I thought she was still the low voice super quiet emotionless singer

>>54618702
>nolifed
Nah she just bought level skip

>>54617830
>but game choices can be fixed
if only.

>>54618249
>none GFE rock
Just like Luna is just a baby huh (me getting Kissing asmrs in members)

GOZARU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJlWlcU6Kac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJlWlcU6Kac

>>54618464
Go back, Nijifaggot.

rock double raided and wants millions of fans, she is #'s new god

Can FuwaMoco beat Shiori's debut numbers?

So bijou is basically kobo without the musical talent.

>>54618435
Seems like Cover expects her to be the tardwrangler based on her seniority, and if she's willing to take a backseat and does the dirty work while the rest cater to more extreme fans then it's probably worth it. This is a golden retirement home for her anyway as long as she doesn't fuck up (no collabing with indie and Homo don't count as "fucking up", just part of the dirty work).

JWU
why are half the EN relay streams privated? did they go unarchived to be able to sing some songs?

>dropped to 198k
>has a shit schedule

pebble bros....

>>54617975
24HR STREAMS LETS GO

>>54618788
ew

https://twitter.com/its_omocat/status/1685510904962764800?s=20
https://twitter.com/its_omocat/status/1685510904962764800?s=20
https://twitter.com/its_omocat/status/1685510904962764800?s=20

The ~125k iron ceiling makes me think Youtube's bots have flagged both EN3 channels and will probably take away a lot of their subs soon.

>>54618747
>NOT A SINGLE FUCKING HOLO has needed to say this
id3

I'm winning today sisters

>>54618822
>"spend [their] whole career in mediocrity."
none of the big jp does that

>>54618646
I agree, though I wonder if it's wise to do it on your literal first week - there's no way to filter or refine your audience yet, making it easy for griefers or shitters to ruin things

>>54618912
easily, they're the most hyped ones

>>54618508
>She also didn't directly say that she was going to collab with the president of Uzbekistan

Are you saying she will collab with the president of Uzbekistan then? kek

>>54618860
LOL
LMAO even
you grimnigger are so fucking retarded
you still owe us a dicksucking btw >>54530642

>>54617923
Bijou is guaranteed the runt because numbers is simping for her. Just look at this thread, there's way too many people trying to distract from Bijou fumbling with rrats

im in the bvtm discord and they're screenshotting your replies, anons

>>54618106
Thats an extreme Woman Moment

>>54618528
ok Vesper

Im pent up, going to jack off and sleep

>>54617636
Same. I think she's really nice. I'll see how their streams go for a week or so before deciding but it's looking good.

that was definitely a certified "Woman Moment"

>>54617975
A FUCKING HEALSLUT

Sub 5k shitter

>Doomposting immediately starts after debut
Lol
Lmao even
At least wait till tomorrow

>>54617616
what stance can we possibly have? We don't really know them yet. For now they feel better than Council, certainly better prepared than any EN gen before them. Bijou have great potential with that loli thing going, she seem to like memes too and can sing that's pretty much following the Gura/Kobo formula. Will she be as popular? Probably not but still should do well.

so, this is what pebblephiles look like

>>54618169
with the whole Nerissa tweet thing I think she will also be safe, if the twins are really ''THEM'' we are set for a good score of only 1 wasted potential for the cgdct army

>>54617684
you forgot to add the next sentence

>>54618933
cant into english songs

>>54618333
>bijoufags
we know its you brown subhuman keep shivering at your upcoming demise.

>>54617492
I just rewatched the collab comment from Shiori. Exact quote is "I will be collabing with friends and potential friends. Now, this is possibly quite rare... [etc]." Could mean anything. The "rare" part might imply external to Hololive, although that's not really rare if you take JP into account recently. Make or own judgements on whether or not this also means homos.

>>54618072
Dont care im not interested in playing these games. Plenty of fish in the sea

>>54618974

>>54617975
is this the most hardworking in EN? she literally grinded and prepared a character just for raid streaming

>>54618978
No, what ID3 was fucking different. Don't fucking conflate the two. They didn't lecture, they just said "yeah I'll be collabing with everyone".

>>54618163
I really enjoyed it, debuts are hard to make entertaining usually.

>>54618788
>shiori rushia when she talked about husbandos
>what the FUCK does pekora and bijou have in common?
didn't watch the debut streams
disgusting

>>54618845
>and they will have to constantly tardwrangle them
Depends if they like tardwrangling or not.

>>54618072
She’s gonna be the Roboco of HoloEN, isn’t she? Completely knocked out of the Holobox in favor of outside friends. If she’s needing money for her sick mother, she’s gonna find out the hard way that what she wants isn’t gonna work.

>>54617956
How new are you? There’s a literal 1 month collab ban

>>54618106
On one hand she's insane for having such a woman moment during debut
On the other hand if that's her announcing she'll do collabs with males and ecelebs and others outside of Hololive this early on, that's also good cause it means I can drop her before even getting invested

>>54618845
Worse, the FC surrounding her would inevitably drag her down with drama.

sisters are really seething hard right now

>>54619027
You've been repeating this same line over and over. Unironically get some help. I saw your dumbass last thread too.

>>54618983
it's a draw 1:1

>>54618747
>NOT A SINGLE FUCKING HOLO has needed to say this.
Towa

>>54617975
I don't get it, aren't they the only race that isn't retarded to play as?

>>54618922
Doing what you mention while also trying to lean into the GFE shit that she very clearly was trying to do in debut is a recipe for disaster. If she wants to be a dumbass and end up the first HoloEN 3view I ain't gonna stop her though.

>>54619031
>screenshotting their own replies*
ftfy

gozaru will be the highest in the relay

>>54618876
Even then she'd have to have gone through Endwalker which takes a bit of time itself.

classic holo vs holo not even 1 day after debuting

Why is more than half of this thread brown?

>>54618161
Bijou had a 2k higher peak but 1.7k lower average and 10PPM slower Chat.

>>54618348
shioris schedule is not numberpoison

>>54619058
GURA HEALER

>>54618199
we shouldve heeded the warning when mori typed in her chat

>>54619255
On fucking debut?

>>54618508
>She also didn't directly say that she was going to collab with the president of Uzbekistan
Fuck, I hope she will collab with the president of Ghana at least...

>>54618333
they are thai fags so they like to shitposts koseki's genmates

>>54618933
>English songs
>Archived

>>54618922
Maybe being the designated homo colllaber isn't necessarily a fuckup, but it does mean she lost me as a viewer and I was interested up until that point. If her plans are just to occasionally collab with indie girls then I can accept that. I hope to god that's what she actually meant

>>54619088
Just refer to >>54618072

>>54618348
>Phasmophobia
Another Kaela game, I predict many collabs between those two

>>54619006
90% of hololive does that

>>54618979
Let's say it was too much buff stacked on top of each other, as if the hype is not enough already, Cover also funneled into it with event, of course YT would find such a HUGE amount of people flooding into one stream suspicious
Bijou stream backed me up on this because it did not hit a ceiling

It says a lot when beggars' biggest win is some vague ass statement that might as well be a way to say she won't collab very much and mostly do solo streams.
I liked both debuts a lot. Look forward to seeing more from them both.

>>54618106
>If I am not the one that can make you smile that's ok
Imagine passing all of the hololive auditions, and the final thing you say at the end of your debut is this. What a fucking retard. Embarrassing.

>>54619135
You could buy the levels and the gear is obviously crafted either by her main or her contacts.

>>54618072
Thread is full of shitposters. What do you expect? EN3 had two debuts over 120k while the other major corpo hasn't only failed to touch those numbers, but has reclined HARD. The small corpos also can't even dream of numbers like that. They're here and they're HUNGRY to shitpost.

>>54618933
just idiots that wanted to sing kesha and arctic monkeys
IRyS mogged the entire day.

>>54619031
Can you screenshot theirs?
I want to see

>>54618974
koseki already winning with engagement, literal gura tier

>>54619255
Yeah and us holo fans hate Towa. Most threads on this web page won't even call her "Towa"

>>54618072

>>54618747
This is my impression of it as well.

So did (You) genuinely grim at the predictions? It's accurate so far.

You niggers should try watching Pekora's or God forbid Korone's debut streams sometimes.

>>54618106
>If I am not the one that can make you smile that's ok."
Why even say this? at fucking debut even

>>54618483
Yeah, she's clearly nervous as fuck but she plans this debut really well. She won't be the top (can anyone even beat the twins?) but focusing on being the Kaela or gamer of EN is a good niche for her

>>54619058
>Trying to go full healslut in FFXIV
Would drop, if you're not DPSing, you're dead weight.

>>54618072
It very very much reads to me as an anti-collab begging statement rather than a homo collab statement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy6HD6t8XhE

>>54619298
hard to swallow pills: shiori's numbers were only inclining because she was bijou's waiting room

So... who do they oshi in EN?

>>54618508
Uzbektomo it’s over…

>>54619196
How new are you? 1 month is only for JP side

I'm oshiing Mumei and Bijou from now on

>>54619016
Will they have relay buff?

>>54619092
>>54619332
i hate the music industry

Is Nerissa going to be good or a dud like Shiori?

>>54619254
They're the designated safe and cute type, because people aren't likely to admit to ERPing with a child avatar

HOLY CHRIST FUWAMOCO HAS 2K WAITING 23 HOURS AWAY

>>54618348
well at least it's not rocksim

>>54618747
You sound emotional, retard.

>>54619249
you win some, you lose some, there are still 2 left

>>54618914
Nah. Bijou seems to want to be hardcore streamer.

>>54618072
Anon this thread talks more about the fucking homos and nijisanji than their fucking splits while pretending to hate them. Just ignore the brainless fucktards that post here.

>>54619305
Not on debut, but what happened after that SHOULD tell you that yes, they need to set boundary right on debut with how retard EN fanbase can be (Case in point: Kronii)

No matter what she meant, she just had to fucking give beggars some ammo. They were almost dead, Shiori..

all of the advent girls are going to have more subs than council in 3 month

>>54619016
Don't they have the lack of relay funnel AND Monday jst time against them though? Tough hurdles

>>54619460
yeah
or any debuts whatsoever, most are awkward or cringe

>>54618860
>125k
>Grim
You people are actually mentally ill.

That woman moment would be a lot less shit if she wasn't going in on GFE from the start

Horned brothers, how are we feeling?

>>54618072
>>54618106
There is a literal month before any of this matters. Trying to figure it out now is pointless

>>54619491
>still has higher subs
Anon?

Any reason why Cover refuses to touch the Philippino market? I mean, they have considered every other SEA country, even fucking Thais but not Philippinoes lmao. Its hilarious

There's not enough Niji vs. Niji in this thread
I'll start. Enna is a bitch, Kotoka mogs her every day

>>54619410
Yeah exactly this, she's gonna be Kronii and Mori's new bestie
Such a shame, what a waste of an opportunity.

>>54618747
In her defense, her pre-chat was doing Tempusfags vs Unicorn timeloops so maybe that's why she felt the need to address it

>>54619410
Kek

>>54619460
I did, honorable mention to Kaela's and Mumei's debuts too. Debuts rarely reflect the talent.

>>54619432
I don't care, I've been all in on the twins since we got the designs

>>54618654
>3 brownskins obsessed with cocks

>>54619629
literal biggest W of the year

>>54618072
Homobeggars and bvtm phase retards are seething and trying to create a yab.

How is opsec so tight this time? The board was already on fire by the the time Fauna said her first words.

>>54619410
Of course it was this retard in here shitposting the debuts.

https://twitter.com/feluccachan/status/1685510206942588928
https://twitter.com/otsukue/status/1685510128072818688
L2D

>>54617975
>Scholar/Sage main
>Doesn't even unlock literally any other job
XIV fans, what lunacy is this?

>>54619388
they are very desperate lmao watch them say
>you should watch this girl from this small corpo she is better
next.

>>54618685
I'm waiting to be suck too

>>54618845
>>54619013
Yeah it might be tough depending on what kind of crowd follows her, I'm hoping her cunny princess persona helps with that because people won't want to make the cute rock upset.

A lot of larping today ain't it? also
>reddit spacing
see you tomorrow, i'll check the /vt/ videos or bvtmkeks self fellating themselves later

>>54619298
Bijou's graph looks normal while Shiori's looks abnormal.

I have no idea why that is, but it's definitely odd.

WTF
WHY THEY RANGEBANNED ME FROM MAKING THREAD???
DURING EN3 DEBUT????

why are sisters and small corpo fans like this? Downplaying every negatives from the girls?

>>54619629
WINNING

ROCK AND STONE

>>54350343
I called it bros. Kayahara is cursed.

>>54619746
This doesn't look like a homocollaber. Are homosisters grasping at straws?

>>54619573
Saying "yes I'll be collabing with people in and outside of HoloPRO" would make sense. What she said, and how she said it,was fucking trash. Each and every ID3 mentioned they'd collab with the homos, and sure it got people to fuck off, but they did it straight up without this lecture nonsense about how they need to respect whoever she's collabing with or whatever. Like holy shit woman why would you phrase it like that at all?

>>54619652
For the same reason why AFA doesn't want to come to PH and Bandai canceled their PH Gundam Base.

>>54619607
Nijifags never left this thread, they turned into grimfarts after NijiEN reclined into the ground

PEBBLECHADS WHERE YOU @

>>54619629
lol homos are dead

>>54618184
40k-50k

>>54619074
I suppose that's pretty damn good considering the state of holoEN the last year

>>54619481
She should say, I don't like colabs very much then

>>54619642
Not for long!

>>54618072
No sane person takes that as a homo collab statement. Notice that they worded it almost exactly like BVTM? Either way I'll watch her. If she collabs with males I'll stop watching her. It's that simple. People throwing a shitfit are mostly retards or fags trying to shit up the place.

Anyone who is dooming over Bijou is forgetting that even if she plays shit like FFXIV, she is still positioning herself to be:
>EN KAELA
How could you ever be mad at that

>>54619298
How much bigger is this than a NijiEN debut

>>54619642
shiori had a 7k advantage before debut
right now, they are 3k away, unironically passing her before the next debuts

>>54618106
>Talking down to viewers on debut
DROPPED

>>54619832
1 week forward it's gonna be like this

>>54619861
what were you gonna make? the 5th thread about shiori collabing with males? lmao

COME HOME WEARY TRAVELRS

Timeslot wise Koseki will be sandwiched by Fauna and Gura while Shiori will potentially be against Irys/Mumei/Kronii.

>>54618169
She’s gone without mentioning any males but Kiara is there despite bringing up homos every stream even in members. Cucks are weird

>>54618163
La+ and Chloe

>>54619655
theres a reason Mori was in her chat and not Bijous. Shiori was groomed by the 'badass bitch' clique (Mori, Kronii, etc) and SNO took Bijou under their wing.

Lamy wants to make a Lamy Council unit with Koyori and Fauna...

>>54619885
>Are homosisters grasping at straws?
It's all shitposters. And yes.

Will asvent collab mog mumei's birthday?

>>54619481
It's ambiguous, which is the problem

>>54615682
>Wait really? Didnt she have like a 30 minute rant about how people should just accept her collabing with males and to stop harrasing her boyfreind that was years ago

Is there a clip of Natsumi Moe doing this?

Anyone gonna do an update on picrel? Mine's so old even ID3 is missing.

>>54619932
Zeldaslop PTSD

It was a weird statement to stay and it probably wouldve been better left unsaid, but if she was going to say she would be collabing with people outside of hololive that probably wouldve been better. either way its better she said it now than later so theres no blow back and we can just move on to better pastures

HOLO VS HOLO HOLO VS HOLO HOLO VS HOLO

I don't know about you anontachi, but Bijou feels like she is a right fit in Hololive, her debut stream so hololivey

Shiori in the other hand..

https://twitter.com/Minchi_anda/status/1685501677200400384
https://twitter.com/Minchi_anda/status/1685501677200400384
https://twitter.com/Minchi_anda/status/1685501677200400384

>>54619932
Compaing
>8 hours of minecraft
with
>8 hours of FFXIV
Really now?

Shiori better clear that up really quick.

>they've actually convinced themselves that the gfe chuuba is the one that's going to do homo collabs

???

>>54619961
Biggest NijiEN debut is Ren with 90k, and that's a Z peak.

shiori's model is just too japanese? I don't know if that makes sense. Like there's no way it would work in an english setting because there's no EN that can play that character setting
They would need a VA level roommate to play her character. Lucy's character into shiori's model for example would be a perfect fit.

>>54619772
She clearly bought boosts for a new account

>>54620051
What?

Shiori might not Collab with homis but she will Collab with twitch fags

>Fuwacoco debut
>they're exactly as wild as they seem
>but Moco (and only Moco) sounds fat
What would you do?

>>54619932
>10 hours of ToTK
No thanks

>>54620009
>jrcach onaholes
hard pass

>>54619186
Hate to say it, but she'll get her money. Remember the 20k people that watched the squad uno collab? Each one buys her $100 birthday set and that's a tidy 100k easy

>>54620051
I don't believe you.

>>54618897
The word is non* and why are you comparing Luna to her?

>>54618106
>I'd love to collab with holopro
>I'd love to collab with hololive(Bijou)
That's it. Filter whoever doesn't like it without long winded lectures.

Now that the dust is settling wtf was Cover thinking of hiring Shiori

>>54618747
Not a single fucking holo had a fucking unicorn vs beggar war in their god damn debut prechat you fucking overly sensitive retard.

>>54620178
literal peabrain the sisters are

>>54619909
I'm a pebblephile actually.

>>54620098
No, he made it up

>>54620163
We already have a no-lifer for Minecraft, I prefer variety

>>54618072
>rare collabs
maybe but she's definitely won't let viewers tell her who she can't collab with. she's also saying she will play with potential "friends" offstream first before collabing with them. all in all maybe she will put out quality streams but she won't be as transparent as other holomen

>>54620148
>in the other hand
ESLchama you don't need to type out every opinion of yours.

>>54619629
1-1 for the day, I'm more into lolis so I'm okay in letting Shiori go

>>54619716
Because not everyone is a retard like the council girls and feel the need to blog out their lives on half a dozen tumblr accounts

We know who they all are they just don't say retarded shit

>>54620051
too good to be true

>>54620163
Recall that Kaela spammed League of Legends Wild Rift for a while after debut. Things can change.

>GFE friendly
I'm invested. My wife DESU ~~

>>54619410
>Shiori is about her warning her fans to not collab beg, be it to her or to the other party.
>Kronii is about her warning her fans that she will collab with someone that they won't like
>LOOK LOOK LOOK IT'S THE SAME
Hai Hai.

>>54620178
Retard she said as clearly as she could without saying it directly that that is what she's gonna do.
The fact that she's gonna try and juggle that with GFE just means she's gonna be a shittier Kronii with worse stream choices.

>>54619253
No holo will ever be a 3view. Not even Mori.

>>54620051
What????? Where?? Timestamp?

>>54620181
What a braindead post

>>54619196
There's a new kiara clip floating around where she said they don't have to do it JP style. They're EN, bitch

>>54620274
She's been in the game for such a long time it's a no brainer

>>54620214
what does fat sound like

>>54620015
Bijou will be fucked because she'll have Ina + Fauna on her ass and if Gura decides to stream that day it's even worse, and her content choices is dogshit enough that people are not going to leave their comfy little tako/tree hole for after the first week

>>54619891
Mysta and Nina literally graduated over fans harassing collab partners you rube. She is just telling us not to act like nijifags.

>>54618106
My guess is that this is mainly directed towards the unicorns. Probably towards the collab beggars too but nah, I lean towards the unicorns. Only unicorns sperg out when undesired collabs happen. And she already gave an advance goodbye for those who are hostile towards who she will choose to collab.
I am not unicorn so it is not a dealbreaker for me but she chooses the path of lower income so she can be more free to choose whoever she will make content with. She better pull off a budget Suisei in terms of content she can attract guys like me.
Anybody can disagree with me and I am willing to change my mind.

>>54618106
This is good. I don't want another kronii arc. Ignore and move on. Having 4/5 cgdct is not bad.

>2k difference now
shiorin...

>>54620211
Some of them are ok like girldm or shilyly.

Putting the homo question aside, Shiori doesn't really offer anything worthwhile

>spam the catlalog on shiori
>shitposts and twists words about her
sigh.. is this not a good time to talk about the girl's pros?

>>54618072
I actually think so, yes.

You can read her statement in two ways. Either the way she goes about things is rare and she wants to collab with a lot of potential friends to study them to see if they can become friends... Or collabs will be rare because she only wants to collab with (potential) friends and first needs to study them before she decides whether they'll fall into that category or not.

So it could be a message to say to not ask for more collabs because she needs to study them first, or it could be a message to not ask for less because the collabs are her way of studying

>>54620178
BAE???

>>54620214
>He lack the critical information that # are all architectchad

>>54619616
That is what I don't get. It such mindfuck to me that I turned into Korone.

>>54618394
Kiara didn't even directly make fun of him, she made fun of that vtuber countdown list for getting holo names wrong, which he somehow took as an attack on himself and had a meltdown despite the fact that he didn't even make the list.

>>54620231
I'm happy to see Mori's pet snake still doing well all these years later

>>54619885
It's shitposters and people backing other corpos.

Today's tally is going to be fucking huge.

>>54618072
we simply don't know. Its too vague so its basically a non-statement, not even 'don't ask me to collab with people'. But acting like people are gonna maybe have an issue with people you collab with is already a red flag.

>>54620330
bro it's just a typo, the i and o keys are right next to each other

>>54619491
Really though, Bijou has no appeal
Stop with the hopium, she's just a flop

>>54620039
God i hope you're right
I hope Gura and Fauna get to Bijou as soon as possible

Just a reminder to you fags that 85% of you unironically thought even 80k was not in sight. You fucks seriously, UNIRONICALLY thought that 60-70k was an actual ballpark estimate for these streams.

Kneel before your queen, now.

>>54620178
Bae: but I also do GFE and collab with homos

>>54619716
>Fauna is a whore
simple as
So far 2/5 have pristine pasts in Advent, looking forward to the others.

>>54620376
Harobo

>>54619209
It's annoying but it's for the best. It's a waste of a slot imo but that's just how it's going to be.

>>54620461
don't let the shitposters niggress gets to you

>>54620273
Seaking of The Rock, I can even imagine a B-rated movie starring Dwayne Johnson where he has to protect Biyou from evil aliens looking to take her away for her gems, led by Kaela.

So twins and Bijou are the only guaranteed safe ones so far with Neri being mostly safe unless her liking those tweets was her relapsing. Shiori, regrettably, looks like the gens dedicated cocksleeve. Welp, it had to be someone I guess. That aside i dont mind her voice unlike some of you here.

>>54620412
Heavier breathing, for one

>>54620108
I have HoloID gen1 debut numbers, appreciate if anyone update this.

>>54620448
>before the yab
+7k
>right after debut
+15k
>koseki debut
+2k
joewarida...

>>54619772
It's a fresh character, only so much time to grind things out in time for debut.

>>54620461
I mean, compared to Fauna and Mumei, its nothing

>>54620356
Stay strong Shioribro