/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I think I’m losing brain cells

Henbutt

Remember that this is a big titty org

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

>>54494426
Just 2 more weeks bro she will leave and gain back her Rushia CCV

capybara

>>54494484
Why does Henry’s boobs have a big gap between them?

>>54494715
The artist only knows how to draw big booba

Hime

Remove Mouse from Vshojo.

>>54494834
Remove Vshojo from Mouse

kson had a foot or leg surgery

>>54494922
Same outcome.

>>54494819
My beloved

Remove your attentionwhore ass from this world

>>54494819
Wife

>>54494928
It's over....

>>54494484
Or huge* depending how you look at it

>>54494789
Her model also has this though

Love my Space Demon wife

Henya is the cutest ever

>>54495429
*Zen

>>54494691
Stop posting this, Vei moved on from wanting that animal

>>54495658
Surely telling a ritual poster to stop ritual posting will stop them from ritual posting.

this is a instant classic henya content

>>54495858
This is infinitely more entertaining than the collab imo

it' s spelled penisvillainia

>>54495727
Only to save themselves from their mental illness of posting vei, sure

henya is russian?

>>54496071
Japanese, she's relying in katakana

Look at my cute delinquent wife

>>54496071
No, she's human.

The lilypichu rematch is real

is mouses music supposed to sound so fucked up in the vod?

pencilhenya

ARTISTS, DO A PENCIL HENYA COSTUME NOW

>>54495959
Pencilhenya

>>54496130
What if it's an actual IRL boxing match?

jimmy_onishi.mp4

>>54496155
>Henya's nose visible
Something weird about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlm7lZdXmf4

>>54496130
Was this from the stream today? I didn't watch because it was an MMO sponsor

>>54496303
I don't know what this is referring to but I will say I never found the Jimmy Onishi gags all that funny

>>54496071
Looks like she's taking her time to me.

wiscon sussy lol

>>54496361
https://tiltify.com/@nyanners/nyanniversary-24hr-streamathon

There is a spot that shows goals

>>54496534

>>54496542
Nyan please add a BDSM goal

>only practiced conversation
Henya no..

>>54494484
why did mouse's hangers get cut off...

this is feeling like an all-timer henya stream

>>54497049
BIGGER

>>54497049
She's a ho.

ai da hoe

henya is THE hoe

>>54497111
Keep her away from Henya

>>54497154
It would be hilarious because Henya would not really know how she is being insulted.

henya has been displaying her email for a while

>>54497394
it's her business email anyway...

what has she done

>>54497111

>>54497369
That’s not the issue anon
We’re worried for Nuero in that collab

new jerry is so much better than old jerry

Alhambra

>>54497686
ahlabamana

>>54497599
>Nuero

she HATES kson

>>54497686
https://youtu.be/EQGBbLBShzk?si=kBjUjdhjAR8D0LTx

She's doing this on purpose isn't she

>>54497826
I thought so at first, but then she gets some right first try.

>>54497826
Anon...

>>54497826

geega is enjoying this

>>54497394

west virgin nya~

clipped and shipped

West vagánia

>>54498061
Hot

Mine sorta

>>54498147
maine soda

How fast did you southerners pick up on kson's accent when you first heard her speak english?

>>54498238
I'm not from the south but from what I can tell she doesn't have one

>>54497986
>BUT HOW CAN I MAKE IT ABOUT GEEGA???
Go geeg in the afterlife after hanging yourself

>>54498339
Anon, she's in chat.

>>54498321
what? I'm from the northern east coast and I heard her accent right away

I wonder if she will do european countries afterwards

Genghis Khan

>>54498491

>>54498475
Probably not
And I don't think many people in chat will request it either, it's very early Saturday morning over there right now so I don't think many yuros would be there atm

We'll be on Illinois for a while

Vei is a retarded broad who should've died at birth

PLHUE THORICO MENTIONED

Henya is representing Mouse wwww

first she hates kson, now she hates mousey....
unity in SHAMBLES

>>54498982
you know mouse is gonna see this clip

Manifesting Geega OnlyFans

>>54498475
Someone asked her to spell Saskatchewan (canadian province) but she just wanted to do states

Henya will raid Nyan tomorrow. Cap this.

>>54499146

>Short stream from Mouse
>Short stream from Henya
>Short stream from Zen
VShojo is dying.

>>54499207
She would need to suffer traumatic brain injury and permanently alter her personality for that to even be possible

>>54499282
sex

>>54499242
I wish canada was a real place, it sounds nice

can't believe henya raided this western WHORE
my sweet genius has truly been corrupted...

>>54499286
I blame cock

>>54499282
>girl
Don't care

>>54499286
>>Short stream from Zen
10 hours is short?

>>54499365
it's over

damn numi's voice is actually fucked

>>54499444
damn i want to fuck numi

If you'd have told me a year ago that of the Bikini Bottoms that Numi would emerge and start pushing Lily for indie supremacy I would have called you a damn liar. What a weird year it's been for Twitch indies.

>>54499566

>>54499566
eww

>>54499536
Numi has more ambition which helps. Lily is fine just vibing

>>54499444
Apparently her last subathon she was in a much worse position on day three

Part of the reason she doesn't stream very long is because of how quickly her voice wears out

>>54499603
it's because numi is a virginal lesbian and lily lives with her "manager"

>>54499603
That's not how it used to be, tho, which is part of the point. Lily was cutthroat and rode the shit out of her sudden popularity boom, trying everything to get more popular and stay relevant. She has seemingly been resting on her laurels for a while tho.

>>54499536
>pushing Lily for indie supremacy
I mean, she's still about 25% of Lily's following so that's a bit of an exaggeration

Aethel please dump nyanners so she can go back to her lesbian phase and have hot lesbian sex with layna please, thanks. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2KjEJZWgAMvK8J?format=webp&name=medium

>>54499603
i don't know about numi but for me lily was always bland. Her orca model and the first subathon carried her here.

>>54499628
She has some kind of condition I'm pretty sure. I remember her saying her doctor basically told her to stop streaming if she didn't want to permanently damage herself. Part of the reason she streams a lot less nowadays.

>>54499655
She went hard on promo, but not on variety. Her content is more or less the same, which is fine, but people will get bored. In a weird way, Numi has more of a traditional idol arc: she wants to improve herself and get over stage fright and become a singer. So people want to root for her.

>>54499789
You don't need a condition to permanently fuck your throat from overuse/improper use

>>54499789
>She has some kind of condition I'm pretty sure
GUNRUN
HIRE THIS DISABLED BROAD

>>54499789
Holy fuck she's so /in/

>>54499847
Her social anxiety alone is drastic enough to be considered a disability

You should have seen her trying to leave Shoto's Goose Goose Duck collab.

>>54499536
>Lily
>indie
This is what Mythicfags actually believe.

>>54499847
I've said it before, Numi would unironically be a great fit for Vshojo as she both fits in with the lewd crowd, has an overlapping but distinct social group, and has ambitions for events. Plus it would make my Space Demon wife even more solidly a +

>>54499914
nah she plays up that social anxiety a lot,
it's not that bad

>>54499986
I understand why kson groped numi

>>54499286
Short streams just reminded me of that statistic of VShojo having the most watched hours from English companies in June. Today was actually a short one for Mouse, with short for her being 5 and a half hours lol. Then Zen at 10 and a half and Henya at 6 and a quarter leaves Haruka as the shortest VSJ stream today at only 4 hours.
>>54499914
There's a clip out there where Numi talks about meeting F1NN5TER and from her perspective it was an awkward meeting that she made worse. But there's another video of him reacting to the clip and he thought she was perfectly normal, which really cemented how inside her own head she is with all of her social anxiety lmao

>>54499986
why are they called the whore clan if they are not in Vshojo?

>>54500035
https://youtu.be/ma3wO7YGUTA She groped Yuzu too and commented on how small her boobs were

>>54500029
I dunno about that, man
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1880758253?t=04h15m48s

>>54500091
The way she has seemingly endless stories of awkward social encounters

>>54499986
>vshojo
>lewd these days
I think you’re looking for the pippa corpo or whatever its called

>>54500107
Vshojo toned itself down and the indies went way harder as a result filling the new gap.

>>54500143
it's okay yuzu you're still #1 /lig/ger I want to fuck
numi can be #2 and #3 tied with tricky

would numi joining make tob on tobic? again

>>54499987
Of all the Mythics I don't understand how you can call Lily an indie considering how in-depth she's talked about her exclusive Mythic contract

>>54500310
Yes, they're like best friends

>>54500310
Tob will always be on tobic

Welcome to your new home

I just noticed aethel raided the voice debuffed wheelchair chuuba sleepy sakura
I hope she's having a good day

>>54500357
The easiest analogy to make here is with music.

In the music world, there are completely independent artists, independent record labels, and major record labels.

Mythic would be in the "independent record label" range of this spectrum. Lily having an exclusive contract doesn't really change that.

I boleev. Sushidog is joining vshojoJP i boleev

>>54500631
henya's pencil...

>>54500689
But by that logic so is Vshojo. If Tier 1 Mythic talents are indies, Vshojo talents are indies, simple as that.

>>54500689
>Lily having an exclusive contract doesn't really change that.
It actually does, but we're still unclear to what extent. Like, might just be casual observation being mistaken for causation, but it seems to me like those with exclusive contracts are treated differently but also have to do things differently than the others in Mythic.

>>54500754
>>54500689
The absolute state of OTK tourists

>>54500650
I've been watching her since the raid, she was very surprised and grateful. Actually didn't know Aethel was Nyan's boyfriend until someone gave her a clip of them and it was explained to her in chat.

>>54500754
... Yeah.
How new? The only thing separating VShojo from any other agency is the shared branding.

>>54500803
It just means she can't sign with another agency. It's not that complicated. Lily brings in money and Mythic was smart enough to lock her in.

what does the v stand for?

>>54500754
VShojo talents "are" indies, relative to other vtuber agencies anyway. There does appear to be a brand element to VShojo but on what scale we still don't really know. The girls control most things, but VShojo controls some things (merch etc) and has the obligation of promotion and whatnot. Mythic, early on anyway, felt like it was trying to be a brand, but over the last couple of months has mostly vanished back into obscurity which is exactly where talent agencies are supposed to go.

>>54500923
Virgin

>>54500913
>How new?
This whole thing started because Vei, Silver and Nyan being like "we're indie again" while jumping into Mythic exclusive contracts.

>>54500913
The scared branding that made vei go from 10k ccv to sub 5k ccv

I quite like Nazuna

>>54500923
Bermond

>>54501009
Me too. It’s sad to see her distance herself from the other girls though…

>>54500923
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzihkNPOzPc
Ve.... *sniff*.... *cries*ibae...

>>54501000
Ignore that for a second, the first few months of Mythic's existence was spent trying to sign anybody not nailed down to anything, but notice what's happened lately. Who's signed with Mythic since Silver? Also, what changed? If you pay attention to some things, it starts to look a bit like either Mythic is becoming a backburner project or they did too much too fast and realized it too late.

>>54501137
they fucked up. Sure they have the infinite otk money but it still money...

>>54501137
I mean, if they kept up the pace of the first couple months, then they'd have to sign like everyone in /lig/ and /wvt/ by the end of the year plus however many fleshies

The initial blitz was to grab as many clients as they could to legitimize the business and establish and inviting host of talents for sponsors.

Why Is it always the same OTK dogs barking about pointless corpo shit because they are threadreaders that don’t watch any streams

>>54501344
What streams? It's just a discussion, as Mythic is the only talent agency for twitch vtubers that we know insists on exclusivity so it's very pertinent to discussions of /in/

>>54501137
They've added 8 people since Silver

>>54501475
Which is nothing compared to when they were starting and grabbing everyone not nailed down.

>>54501440
You know the Henya stream that JUST ended

>>54501137
They can't unironically maintain every single talent the same way, simple as. Most of the people in there, either get just the typical sponsor. Now, it's not entirely bad, better than in your own. But it does feel like some of the sponsors come to Mythic, and not so much searching for the talent in specific, unless it's the request of the talent. The good thing is that the three indie bitches have successfully got some good deals and partners for merch deals without the VShojo tag. So who knows what it will happen, still is too early to tell. The only positive thing that keeps VShojo different from MSM or Mythic right now, it's definitely the fact that they are an actual VTuber org, so they get easily promoted to cons and stuff that can recognize the brand and their talents, which helps getting the name around.

UTA doesn't have exclusivity, right?

>>54501610
Right, who raided Numi, which started an /in/ topic, which lead to more vs. Mythic discussion

>>54501648
Any agency can stipulate exclusivity in their contract
Clearly Mouse and Zen's contracts are not exclusive. Couldn't tell you about Bao or Shoto though.

>>54501611
They promote themselves as giving support to the people signed with them, but all we know about the smaller hires is that they're put on an email list for sponsors. Can they really give them all the support they claim to?

>>54501648
Mouse and Zen are both in UTA so as far as we know, no.

>>54501137
They already have most of the big vtuber indies, the majority of the rest are in MSM Talent, GeeXPlus, UTA, or other talent management companies.

>>54501743
nyan's in the same agency as nux huh

sonch come back...

>>54501850
Let her girlfriends get some alone time with her.

>>54501830
So is Silver, but they don't have to be anywhere near him.

>>54501611
they are getting the same shitty deals as everyone else to be fair... Didn't you watched lily farming honkai rails dry with drops?

>>54501688
>>54501706
>>54501713
I'm still thinking that Mythic was a bid for OTK/Asmon to get leverage with Twitch Staff, especially given OTK's threats to leave during the ad controversy and how Asmon calls himself an untrustworthy conman and brags about being able to trick people

>>54501891
it's the irony friend... After all the shit they talked about, they are under the same roof.

>>54501743
>No Tricky
SHE'S /IN/

Henya sotd for the first episode back right?

>>54501648
No, here's the list
https://www.utatouring.com/esports/
There's people like Rae, Lilypichu, the whole fucking FaZe clan, among others

>>54501906
Yeah idk why anyone thought they would get better sponsors, the baiters got away with that one I guess

>>54502044
I just fucking realize that people could make the joke of UTA mandated collab for all the times Mouse plays for Sykkuno or Rae, but we went for the fucking bottom of the barrel because people here are retarded to check who's actually in OTV

>>54502044
>Zen not listed
Grim
But then Mythic has Vei still as Veibae so kek in general

>>54501954
Silver would beat the shit out of Nux in a Waffle House parking lot at 3 am.

>>54502140
I think is an old website or one that doesn't get updated as much, this is the new one. Doesn't list the talents to book but it's pretty interesting to know what it's their plan with Mouse and Zen.

>>54501954
The worst part for me is the hypocrisy

>>54502184
Did we ever find out why she hated him so much?

>>54502121
mouse isn’t close to anyone in otv that was always the funny part. hell, shoto is more in that friend circle than her.

>>54502311
Using people for clickbait without their permission. Basically.

>>54502502
Oh, I heard he made her cry, but guess not. Say what you will about her but if she decides she's in the right she will be one of the most vicious women on the planet.

>>54502490
mouse is an otv orbiter orbiter

>>54502490
She's pretty friendly with Lily. Was even using Lily's art for her Fugi for months up until last week or so

>>54502311
>Using people for clickbait without their permission
Specifically, Silver. /pmg/ used to talk about it all the time. Nux had used Silver's image as clickbait for a thumbnail way back in 2020 without her permission, for a video she had nothing to do with. Presumably, she asked him kindly to not do that, and he gave her the runaround. Between Nux and Bunny, Silver mostly has a good eye for shitters, so she had him pegged long before she became friends with Mel or Mouse. Eventually, he wormed his way into the good graces of the other girls that would come to form VShojo, but Silver always knew what he was about. This is partly why Silver was so against apologizing to him when he leaked the shit like he did in November 2021, she knows he uses people for clout and plays the victim when called out for it and she's not about that.

>>54502598
>plays the victim when called out for it and she's not about that.
.....

>>54502553
It's hard to say pretty friendly, I'll say that it's just friendly. They both know each other, they like each other but they aren't like buddy buddy to say that they are close. Although Lily saying the whole boxing shit during one of the smite streams was funny as fuck, so I don't mind her around

>>54501743
>Silver and Sinder right next to each other
>their profile pics are very similar
KEK

>>54502659
Kek

>>54502659
sshh anon... let him have it.

>>54502598
So, she hates him couse he is similar to her, got it.

>>54502490
that's why OTV streams are so boring

Lewding Henya should be illegal

>>54502780
Why anon?

>>54502598
Makes sense, he did screw over Mouse and Snuffy too. But she's friends with Rofl and Asmon, I don't know how good her shitter sense is.
>and plays the victim when called out for it and she's not about that.
I like her, but that's exactly what she does.

When is 24 hours of fat bitch starting?

>>54502659
>>54502703
>>54502742

Hey, you know what Silver never did? Leverage her fanbase to go harrass people on her behalf. She actually told people to stop fighting in her comeback stream. Nux used his fanbase to force VShojo to "apologize" to him after Mouse got death threats (which Silver called out, hence her "We're not friends" comeback to some asshole in her stream).

>>54502809
She's a child

>>54502691
Thing about Lily is that she is "just friendly" with mostly everyone.
She often blames timezones for having trouble collabing and getting close to people, but that can only explain so much when you make your own hours.
Lily is just a very solitary kind of person.

>>54502829
sure anon.

>>54502829
>She actually told people to stop fighting in her comeback stream
And so did Nux. That doesn't actually matter. Your fans will still do it "for you" and both groups got to know that intimately at the time.

>>54502829
Yeah...about that

>>54502888
i love how people likes to forget about her "press conference" and the diamond discord leak. Good thing she deleted the vod.

>>54502829
She made some comments about not wanting harassment of others, but the harassment continued regardless, and she never made a huge effort to stop it. She seems fairly conflict avoidant though, so I don't really blame her. I don't think she knows what to do with her huge fandom or really registers how big it is.

>>54502828
Estimated 12 noon FBT, or 3PM EST
She wants a minimum of 10 hours of sleep and won't start the stream until she's had that much, so we'll see.

This thread sucks

>>54502957
and still my dick is dry.

>>54494484
I will titfuck all of them in front of Nazuna and Henya and make them both graduate again

>>54502928
Lmao nobody forgot about it outside of her fanbase, as much as they try to make excuses for her, try to downplay it, or otherwise treat her like a baby, she fucked up, and it bit her in the ass. There's a lot of people in the vtuber community who don't like her, especially now.

>>54502935
>She seems fairly conflict avoidant though
Which is her big issue, there are a million and one things Silver could have headed off at the pass if she put on her big girl pants and had the tough conversations.
>I don't think she knows what to do with her huge fandom or really registers how big it is.
Also a factor, considering Silver just sees her fanbase as "an Internet guild". Which is far and away from how Nux leverages his following.

>>54502829
That's kinda true, but no matter what the opinions you often say to your fanbase it's hard to really get a grasp of who are falseflagging or actually think that way, huge fanbases still do crazy shit. Silver did play that card, but I do think that putting her next to Nux is stupid tho.

>>54502928
She's totally gonna stream way more guys

>>54502957
This thread rocks
18 naked anons sucking big cowboy cocks

>>54503007
18 more naked cowboys out in the yerd
Prince Harry in the cockship
Ford Raptor trucks
gonna suck cowboy butt
Sean Mendez

>>54502598
I still find it creepy that he made a video with Mouse or something that included her, and decided to use porn of him and her as the thumbnail.

>>54502996
The word "people" is plural, you're gonna need to list more than just "Mouse". And as much as I think Silver streaming Hogwarts Legacy was intensely stupid on her behalf, the opinions of a bunch of Vtweeters shouldn't count.

>>54503099
He what

>>54503001
I don't think she's a bad person, but she definitely has flaws, and a lack of responsibility. I think streaming and her community is a bit of an escape for her, given what we know about her day to day life, but being sad and having mental problems does not excuse you from responsibility, she can't keep running away from reality and her responsibilities forever, and that goes for more than just her streaming career.

>>54502691
yeah friendly but not streamer friends or however that works. always got the feeling mouse doesn’t vibe as well with them and they’re all valorant sweats.

Goddamit I hate the silver psychology hour

>>54503117
Ironically, Mouse doesn't seem to have a problem with her, it seems largely one-sided. Also we had a thread a couple weeks ago where a bunch of Anons who used to watch her said why they stopped, and you can see people talking about how they dropped her or calling her two-faced or a backstabber all over Twitter, Reddit, and Youtube. Like it or not, that saga is what is going to define her and her career for a long time.

>>54503134
Yep
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=4273934

>>54503221
Please understand, between /vt/ never watching Silver when she does stream and Silver not streaming, they need to fanwank some kind of excuse to hate her.

>>54503099
the worst part was recording their conversation on discord and using part of it on a video. Mouse is a very open and kind person and people loves to abuse it.

>>54503221
Menhera and tits are pretty much her only pronounced traits though

>>54503221
But we haven't even speculated that she age regresses from stress and childhood trauma yet Anon!

>>54503251
What the fuck.

>>54503264
what did she say?

>>54503249
>it seems largely one-sided
Considering Silver hasn't mentioned Mouse at all, hasn't made any dumb twitlongers, and generally keeps to herself, I think it's fair there is no side; they're just not friends anymore and leave it at that. People act like Silver pulled a Bunny when she just publicly said "I'm not friends with Mouse, we haven't spoken in seven months, Connor isn't MY boyfriend".

>>54503117
The fact that this general went from largely neutral-positive to practically anti-ing her after her press conference stunt should give you an idea of how little goodwill she'd garnered and how easily it was broken

If a response like that can happen in a general that held her as "one of theirs" for two years, what makes you think the general/public reception is much better?

>>54503314
>>54503251
And twice
I'm not going to risk it
https://files.catbox.moe/gvrift.png

>>54503317
oh man it was a long time ago... I don't think the video is even up anymore. Mouse was really really upset about it.

>>54503369
>People act like Silver pulled a Bunny when she just publicly said "I'm not friends with Mouse, we haven't spoken in seven months, Connor isn't MY boyfriend".
"Some people behind the scenes aren't like how they appear" yeah she's totally not the source of "Iron Diva" shitposting in the thread. Face it anon, she came off as a catty bitch in that "press conference" and she gets rightly shit on for it now.

>>54503272
She's pretty obviously mentally ill, and drops enough hints/talks about her irl life enough that it's easy to speculate about what exactly is wrong with her and why/when it happened. I don't blame anons for going here to talk about it considering how much of "don't talk about anything bad ever!" "Only comfy vibes UWU" her official channels are.

>>54503379
>If a response like that can happen in a general that held her as "one of theirs" for two years
You're fucking kidding me. /vt/ had been "who?"ing Silver for years when the press conference came up.
>inb4 "it was just a joke bro"

>>54503384
OK, the first one was weird but this is just foul

>54503369
This is bait

>>54503494
>>54503384
>>54503314
>>54503251
And his first short
https://youtu.be/MSqUNEto9Zg
Then again it was another person that brought it up

>>54502311
he kept using Silver as clickbait without actually even talking to her once, And his retarded fans would constantly go into her chat and spam the living shit out of it with his retarded memes. by the way that was one of the things you like to do was to raid someone while he was still streaming and have his chat shit up the other person's chat just so he can record their reaction for content.

real deadge hours
I'm so alone with the distractions bros...

>>54503384
i blame mouse for this honestly. She allowed this behavior.

>>54503492
We "who?" Hime too and we love her.

>>54503369
I'm not that anon, but I mean if she went as far as to say that publicly it's not unreasonable to asume there's some animosity there anon, c'mon. You're being disingenuous...

Is it weird that I find Silver's VA much more interesting than Silvervale the character? It's like watching a tragedy, a glimpse into a weird, sad, and broken person expressed through the medium of vtubing, someone trying to hard to convince you not to peek behind the wizard's curtain while she suffers, usually due to problems she made for herself. A tragic protagonist who's not a good person, but who you can't help but feel pity for anyways. She's unironically a source of inspiration for my own writing.

>>54503590
But also, Silver literally hasn't even mentioned it since then, while people here talk about her like she's been secretly grinding an axe for Mouse for months now like she's some kind of jilted soap opera villainess.

>>54503369
she came across differently with her whole “what is a friend” comment, anon. she realized that herself after it happened and deleted clips of it on twitter and the vod. it’s not complete character assassination but it did make people look at her different.

>>54503492
>/vt/ had been "who?"ing Silver for years
Because she was unironically the most forgettable (which kind of bolsters my point that she did very little for her reputation) and it just became a running joke. We have jokes for all of them.

>>54503575
Oh yea, it was definitely the weirdest part of vtubbing. Even if I like shipping and know it's cringe, I know there was a worse age in the history of the girls, mostly Mouse and it was due to this group of friends. People here might not like corpa Mouse and some even say shit that they miss the old Mouse who appeal to coomers, this was the shit they forget about.

>>54503379
I mean she'd garnered a lot of it when she had that emotional stream about her dad. Was probably the single most discussed Silver stream this thread ever had outside of birthdays or debuts. But at the end of the day VShojo is how a lot of Silver fans discovered her, and how a lot of Silver fans got into the other members. So to suddenly act like it didn't mean anything didn't exactly endear herself to a lot of people. Like people bait about how oh the company doesn't matter it's the talents, but it's the company that brought them together formally under one roof that they did stuff together with. When shit like VILLS happened it was an insanely emotional time for this thread and it happened because they were part of that group together, and likely wouldn't have if they were all still on their own.

Basically if you're going to leave do what Nyan did lol.

>>54503369
She said those things in the most-passive aggressive, snide way possible, while giggling like a schoolgirl the whole time. Context matters. Go to any place that discusses vtubers, or especially Vshojo, outside of here and bring her up, a lot of people have a negative opinion of her now.

>>54503720
I do like there's a guy that summarizes the whole thing and even at the middle of the video calls it petty high school drama kek
lemme find it

>>54503657
Yeah, I'm not claiming mouse lives rent free in silver's head to this day. anons here just like to talk shit, don't take it too seriously

>>54503384
he even did the same shit with Mel, but that got weird because he claimed that they had a kid(not IRL fictional). got even weirder when one of his Fanboys created a vtuber Persona claiming to be this fictional kid.

>>54503771
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xu7wp7KLgzg

>>54503657
Yeah, there's a reason for that. Couldn't find a straight clip but I think this video has the clip. Add on some of her many now-deleted rants, vents, and other tweets and you get the impression that she's been jealous of the other girls for years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay9DfFUK3l4

>>54503829
lol one of the comments on this. IF ONLY HE KNEW WHAT WAS COMING

>>54503720
Just did a quick search and found the Reddit thread for their departure announcement
I'm seeing a lot of the same things that we were saying at that time
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/12z71cv/silvervale_and_veibae_to_leave_vshojo/

And if you search the sub for "silvervale" and sort by new, the results sort of just speak for themselves.

>>54503720
Fuck, I was a nearly three year sub of hers. I was cheering her on at the start of that "conference" when she was looking for reassurance that her fans would stay with her. Then she just kept getting more catty through the whole thing and it just became more and more "uncomfy". I have not watched her since, and she occupies a "weird" place now in my head. And it made me reflect on more and more moments of hers in the past. I still watch Vei (when she plays a game I like), and I still watch Nyan (when she does some bit), but I can't watch Silver anymore even if I watched her most out of the three. Though it helps that Henya streams through most of her normal timeslot
This whole "you never watch her" cope is just bullshit

>>54503705
It wasn't just that, it was also how she acted like she just left the world's worst job and threw shade at Mouse. A lot of people, especially people who had been around since the start, felt really hurt, even betrayed, by that. And I don't know how Silver feels about that stream, if she thought she went too far or deleted it due to the massive backlash, but I can't blame the fans for feeling how they did.

>>54503677
mouse has better people around her now. i don’t blame her for not wanting to acknowledge that era of her career. she used to overshare some stories and she was embarrassed when they played during last years anniversary compilation.

>>54503472
>>54503620
I'm pretty sure you're projecting your mental illness onto Silver

>>54502490
>mouse isn't close to anyone in otv+
well that's gonna change with the amount of orbiting she's been doing lately

>>54503492
I can't get over the fact that there's some "silverfag" who keeps bringing up the whoposting lmao
I'm pretty sure he's a falseflagging baiter, tho. because that's too retarded to be real

>>54503927
One of my favorite posts that got posted here during the time Silver's thread was actually ongoing and basically said. "Now this is how you do an exit. A professional statement, no hard feelings, just people going their separate ways.

Edit: God dammit Silvervale"

>>54503677
corpa mouse is the best mouse. Sure i miss some parts of it but old mouse was too open about herself.

>>54503927
the virtualyoutubers reddit is full of psychos who will always side with the company against talents
doesn't matter which vtuber or which talents, they just want to suck on some boot
when kson commented on the niji 2% thing they started calling her a bunch of horrible shit and one guy even said he's glad the taiwan thing happened (with positive upvotes)

>>54503961
Oh yeah the anniversary compilation, god they had a year, at least make it good this year, fucking mousecord

>>54503956
You totally can blame the fans, and you should. People who blame the fans tend to make commentary that ages shockingly well.

>>54503855
I know you're not going to pretend Silver not sucking some heckler's dick and telling him to fuck off after he tells her to change whatever plan she had for that stream is Silver being a bitch.

>>54503987
Mouse is unironically close mostly with other UTA talents in that circle. Don't think of it as "OTV+" think of it as "UTA+"
Wonder if Zen will stream more with Rae now, kek

>>54504055
I remember some chode on Youtube insisting that Silver, Vei and Nyan leaving Vshojo was Vshojo's fault... because VShojo didn't retain the copyright to their characters and chaining down a talent's "character" is the "right" way to do things, even though the girls in VShojo made their own characters. Talk about Holo-poisoning.

>>54503948
Three years? You were there from the start of her career. That's rough buddy. I haven't watched her since either. What were some of the moments that were red flags in retrospect for you? For me it was how she would project her insecurity onto other people.

>>54503948
Pretty much same boat. It was a bizarre experience having both her and Mouse's streams up at the same time and how starkly different the tone was. That on top of the break up art she commissioned ahead of time and her rant on Vei's stream backing her up for using retard just kind of changed my perception of her.

>>54504057
don't blame NKdiscord. Blame the mods, they were the ones "curating" the list.

>>54504109
Was that Depressed Nousagi? Because I remember him making a video after that happened basically saying VShojo was doomed to fail because of the way they did things. Then like a week later we got Henya lol

>>54504113
As I live and breathe, someone on 4chan clutching their pearls over the use of "retard". Next you'll be telling me we should go easy on furries.

>>54504154
I'm gonna be honest, I don't care to check because it's obvious nobody in that video knew what they were talking about. You had people in the comments talking about Silver like she had only joined VShojo months after they launched.

>>54504154
that faggot is like silver fighting for her father love in her case he wants to be the vt golden boy.

You guys mindbroke the one Silverfag in the thread. Congrats!

>>54504230
>like silver fighting for her father love
Mousefags really are something else.

>>54504205
This thumbnail ring a bell?

>>54504154
What a braindead take
Nigga ain't never heard of a talent agency before (like a lot of this board, seemingly)

>>54504115
didn’t even know it was the mods but of course they were. incompetent fucks.

>>54504154
i hate that dramatuber but it wasn’t looking good when 3 top talents left and zen + mouse weren’t locked down for a contract.

>>54504267

>>54504166
Nah, I agree with the guy. That clip that got thrown around of them mocking the twittards was just fucking cringe. I do like that Vei wants to use it, I'm no hypocrite I use it as well as my boy Linus did, but she did prove a bit of their point with that clip, she acted like she was an edgy teen that just discovered the word nigger or a white chick thinking she's gangsta by saying nigga

>>54504166
The difference is how Silver goes on about how much she doesn't want to offend anyone and will never be edgy, and then here she is on another person's stream hyping them up for using a slur and mocking the people who are offended by it. It's not the thing itself, it's the hypocrisy.

>>54504299
The top 3 were Nyan, Vei, and Mouse. Silver was number 5 after Zen.

>>54504299
the funniest thing was the discord mods angry at the people in discord saying that "they sent bad videos". LIKE NIGGA DO YOUR FUCKING JOB!

I feel like a lot of Silver's fans have some kind of Stockholm syndrome, a lot of these posts are reading like someone coming out of a relationship with a compulsive liar.

>>54503855
The thing that you're kind of glossing over, back in the day the precious family had a problem with bugging the shit out of other people to collab with Mouse especially if she started crying for whatever reason. It eventually got to the point where Mouse addressed this on stream and we're telling people to stop bugging other people for collabs

>>54504320
She was above Zen.

>>54504260
He's been mindbroken for months. Pretty sure he's Diamond Tier as well

>>54504363
they have to pay 50 bucks a month for a chance to speak with her... I would say yes.

>>54504268
man I agree with Mouse, I have said that VShojo had an impact on the community but people want fucking drama out of them and they buried it with the 17th video of how VShojo fucked up

>>54504363
>a compulsive liar.
Enough about Mouse though

>>54504314

>>54504113
Don't forget Melody going into a depression. She used to be super close, and they haven't publicly interacted at all since.

>>54504113
Same, except the retard thing which I do not care about. I was watching everything happening that night in utter disbelief and Silver's comments did not help. At one point, you could tell Mouse was watching her do the conference too, because she does that thing where someone blinks a few times and shakes their head just slightly like they have something bothering them and she says "Yknow, I really want to say something..." then pauses and says "forget it, never mind" and you just know something Silver said she wanted to reply to but she knew better than to do it on stream or in public at all. That was the difference. I was fine with Silver, et al, being happy to be indies again because I was sure they had their reasons, but the way Silver acted made it rather jarring. And, I know people get wrapped up in the Mouse and Connor comments and they should, because holy shit people in the chat were throwing questions at her and she PICKED THOSE ONES TO ANSWER... she could have ignored them, like she did for the dozens of other things people were hurling at her that night, but she chose to answer those. I can understand if she was hurt by some things with Mouse and maybe it just came out in a spur of the moment with all the other emotions going on, but Jesus Christ do not put people on blast ON STREAM. It is never a good look and as a result it has stuck with me that her actions were intended, even if I allow for misguided and misjudged.

>>54504387
Only briefly due to Hogwarts drama. And at the point of leaving she hadn't had the buff for long and lost it soon after

>>54504412
and now we have all this nijishitshow and the hillarious EN3... KEK

>>54504387
She wasn't. She'd been riding multiple drama boosts for the month and change before leaving. Now that it's all over and things are back to normal she's back to firmly being behind Zen which is a pretty nice place to be

>>54504448
Prove me wrong then, where in her own streams does she paint herself as anything else?

>>54504320
meant top talents not actual top 3 members

>>54504350
it’s on them to omit shit and the video compilations are facebook editing quality it shouldn’t be hard to take out

>>54504480
She could close the gap if she went back to using 3D, but I bet Silver's still tilted over people hating her decision to go 2D in the first place.

>>54504467
i remember everyone ITT commemorating how silver come back was amazing and she had 7k by herself.

>>54504154
Yeah it was him. I can't believe I watched his "VShojo Experience" video which was just "well they're not Hololive so of course people don't like them" but done over 25 minutes of rambling about inane bullshit. Fuck I hate Holotards.

>>54504473
>and the hillarious EN3
?
EN3 looks fine so far
Twin dogs cute

>>54504375
Everyone's chat did that. Literally. "Check on Silver" "Call Mel" etc was very, very common and still is when events happen. Chat hopping is "normal" even if frowned on. No one's "fans" are immune to it, it's how you handle it.

>>54504375
I do agree, but it's the same as when she read the infamous Connor comment, Silver has a genuine problem reading some shit in the chat and taking it by value. I agree that collab beggars are the fucking worse, I cringed my left nut sack back in the day when they told Connor that Mouse was crying due to her singing opera, but don't go off and obviously know when shitty comments arrive, Mouse has also this same issue and it actually fucking sucks every time it happens unless the joke lands

>>54504466
People talk about her Connor comment like it was just a honest response to the question. No. Go back and rewatch it and pay attention to her tone and word choice. She knew damn well what she was doing and was trying to drag other people into it.

>>54504508
i think that's why mouse does it herself now. Her mods are very lazy. They are vips with mod badges.

>>54504166
People can do what they want. It was just another weird example of oddly aggressive behavior from Silver. My issue with Vei was her attitude about it. She acted like a 13 year old who just learned the word trying to sound edgy

>>54504520
Weird because I remember literally everyone saying she had a drama boost off of it and that her numbers could improve if she capitalized off of it and kept them around, but that she probably wouldn't want to because the kinda person who gets into her for thinking she owned the trannies isn't going to like that she's not actually transphobic.

>>54504502
NTA, but what you said was so dumb that I thought it was just a joke. What you described is the polar opposite of hypocrisy. Hypocrisy would be being annoyed at someone else saying retard while you throw it around like seeds in a sowing season.

>>54504466
>it has stuck with me that her actions were intended, even if I allow for misguided and misjudged.
There's really no other way to interpret the art she commissioned. She wanted drama, she was just expecting people to take her side in it.

>>54504512
Probably doesn't help that the model she waited a year+ for is trash compared to the backup one she got

>>54504620
nigga you're retarded

wtf is going on here

>>54504693
all me

>>54504541
EN3 looks fucking boring and the holodrones are already setting themselves up for massive disappointment.

>>54504581
>It was just another weird example of oddly aggressive behavior from Silver.
She's got a long history of that, often towards her own chat, she just got away with it until she tried shitting on Mouse.

>>54504620
Lateral thinking isn't your strong suit, is it?

Silver brands herself as a "comfy" streamer and uses the "safe space" tag.
Meanwhile, she'll readily mock people who diss Vei for using what they believe to be a derogatory slur for the neurodivergent and mentally impaired.

These are not congruent qualities, anon.

>>54504728
If the rrat about natsumi moe being one of them turns out to be true then ooh boy lol. Especially since the one they think is her is the one with the most coomer model.

God I wish we could keep a zen+ thread on the catalog so I wouldn't have to deal with these retards

>>54504749
>Silver brands herself as a "comfy" streamer
This is why the whole HL drama went worse for her than anyone else. Trannies love that shit of "comfy" streamers

>>54504772
Zen is the most pro unity there is. She herself would disapprove of making a thread outside of vsj+

>>54504772
you can leave. Bye.

>>54504740
I remember reading that one retarded oiler's google doc and he mentioned that Silver would publicly blast people in her husbando tier who were weird or she didn't like (and these were she $1000 people.)

>>54504817
cryaotic, bunny, bahroo and silver teached me that everyone who uses the tag "comfy" is a shitty human.

>>54504772
there's nothing right now to be fair, we could jerk off all we want with long posts or just pics

>>54504868
I miss the giantess pics. They used to get posted this late at night

>>54504559
That's what I mean, she chose to address that. Why? Why touch that subject? Just ignore it and answer the upteenth question about "what are you going to do now?"

>>54504651
The art was another interesting look, but you could look at it as a "kicking the door down" kind of moment like.. "yep we're independent and proud" and whatever. On its own it wouldn't look that bad but with her comments it kind of felt like she really wanted to grind an axe. What's weird is that she didn't grind it harder. If you want to go scorched earth just fucking do it, but she kind of half assed it. I wonder how much was because of the NDA tho.

>>54504749
They aren't congruent. But incongruence is not the same hypocrisy. In fact, this inconsistency is the opposite of hypocrisy.

>>54504717
Just the good ol reliable silverloop

>>54504762
Moe was having money trouble recently. I could actually see her leaning into it more now. She tried to make it "on her own terms" for years, I could see her actually going into the fan service territory. Similar but not nearly as "overt" as Shylily's transformation in late 2021

>>54504868
i watching saiiren now... My god her model is delicious.

To play devil's advocate, irritability, not knowing what's acceptable in social settings, aggression to perceived slights, not thinking of or understanding other people's perspectives, etc, can all by symptoms of ADHD and/or autism, both of which Silver has repeatedly displayed other symptoms of. Girl needs legitimate mental help, aside from all the drama she's basically slowly killing herself with how she lives.

>>54504931
If she steps up then hey more power to her. If she doesn't? Well that's going to be interesting lol

>>54504944
I wish she had charisma. Legit, she seems really nice and her model is sex but she's an energy vacuum.

>>54504906
i firmly believe she had a maniac episode and the crashing down is destroying her now.

>>54505001
yeah... She was better during RP days, she needs people to bright.

>>54504906
Could be because everyone was shitting on her after the stream, could be because it was like when you hit someone and the regret fills you as soon as you land the punch. Based on Mouse and Melody's comments they were both very hurt by what she said though.

>>54504906
>That's what I mean, she chose to address that. Why? Why touch that subject? Just ignore it and answer the upteenth question about "what are you going to do now?"
You can simply answer with, women
Because as said by everyone, doesn't matter if they are a thing or not, people will talk about it and depending on what's the truth, it's still annoying for those two. That's why he most likely blocked her, as that would quiet his notifications.

>>54504762
I like Moe, she was always a sweetheart and good to the girls even if she purposely distanced herself from them due to... well let's just be blunt, Melody because she didn't want to be included in a lewd / whore crowd. She wanted the seiso stuff, which was her right, but she completely torpedoed herself out of relevancy by doing it. Like it or not, VShojo has a rather big impact on Twitch indies, so even if you're not in there, you can still get noticed just by association.

But, I mean, the character designs look dull and twins are you fucking kidding me? Do people really want streams that are always going to be collabs?

I feel like I started all this spergery with this post:
>>54501830
sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>54504929
People want her to stay on topic, but she barely streams and doesn't interact with the girls so there's not much else to say when she comes up. Honestly just waiting for people to forget about her and move on. Probably will take a few more EN additions to the group though

>>54504920
You actually have brain problems

Hypocrisy is not exclusively "doing the exact letter-by-letter opposite of what you say."

She positions herself as inclusive, kind and comforting, then heelturns into the exact opposite for seemingly no reason. That's hypocrisy.

I refuse to spend any more energy trying to spell it out further. This isn't hard to comprehend.

>>54504850
And they deserved it, as did ZealousD. Silver doesn't and shouldn't have to put up with weirdass creepy and manipulative retards.

>>54504728
I think the twins, assuming they are who they are expected to be, will be the highlight. Hungry "hag" idols trying one last hail mary to reach their dream is the story of basically all of the best Holos. They are the one's who feel most comfortable in the "Holo Garden". The fact that they are bilingual as well really sets them up for great potential success.

>>54505002
There's been a lot of moments on her stream over the years that could qualify as manic episodes of some kind, a lot of her breaking down over games, for instance. Not sure if I'd call her borderline or bipolar, but she for sure gets manic and/or hysterical sometimes.

>>54503917
lol
the irony

>Come back to thread
>See walls of text
Didn't read lol

>>54505048
Apparently the twins had quite a dedicated fanbase beforehand. I never saw them stream but partner accounts have been a thing for a while and they'd probably win people over. I don't watch though so I don't care too much, but I do dislike how generic all their designs feel. Very Genshin.

>>54505001
God, I hate myself for having a thing for boring women, something about them awakes the saviorfag in me, like I feel like she's the girl that would sit alone, so I want to make her company.

>>54505078
>She barely streams
Depression, Laziness, or Not needing to stream because she gets several thousand dollars in donations every time she goes live? Call it.

>>54505141
You missed out on nothing

>>54505042
It was a couple of days after that she ended up pulling the VOD. Feels like SOMETHING happened. But that's just speculation. Normally she'll pull down a VOD immediately if she thinks she went to far, but not that time. I think that one anon might be right in that she expected more people on her side after the HL controversy

>>54505085
Don't use pictures of my wife for low level shitposting ever again

>>54505141
zero attention span zoomer detected

>>54505042
I will say this, whether it was just to rally the troops (read: the VShojo audience) or a legit wake-up call for Mouse in particular, that first month and a half or so where she was popping into the other girls streams and chats and talking, and even getting a great Mel / Mouse stream of consciousness stream that we hadn't had in fucking years was great. So maybe some good came of it, and maybe someone has needed to do some pants kicking for years but nobody had the balls to do it.

>>54504762
Who are the PL rrats on all of them?

>>54504959
>Girl needs legitimate mental help
VShojo had resources available to her...

I don't want to pull others into it but Silver won't help herself, simple as. It'd have to be Mamavale pushing her into a therapist's office.

People had been calling Silver a diva for years, it just got to the normies when she had her little "press conference."

>>54505085
No, I think you don't get it. Hypocrisy is pretending to have virtues one does not posses. Hypocrisy is demanding of others what you can't deliver. Hypocrisy is pretending to deliver something you aren't. Striving towards something but failing to deliver is not hypocrisy. Delivering what you don't demand of others is not hypocrisy no matter how you slice it.

Reminder to stop falling for bait and actually talk about the girls streams.

What upcoming streams are you bros looking forward to?

>>54505180
>does he know

>>54505214
Of course is a good wake-up call and for everyone in VShojo, everyone got caught up in their shit, Mouse being the one that probably got more into it. But it's still weird to bring it up on stream where people will see it and discuss it. It feels wrong.

>>54505168
Laziness fed by the money she makes. She's a shut in who'd do nothing but play games if she could. Not that I blame her though

>>54505099
Okay, but... nobody fucking watched them before and the only reason they're being talked about now is because OMG THEY'RE NEW HOLOS SQUEEEEE. The retards on this board drive me nuts. Of course they're going to debut to tens of thousands of viewers because hololive, but where will they be a month from now? Will a set of twins doing streams really be that interesting long term?

>>54505284
I do not, enlighten me.

>>54505180
She pulled them literally minutes after Filian reacted to them. She was fine with it right up until the reaction got big enough a day or two after.

>>54505043
Connor’s perspective is funny to think about since he was randomly thrown into vshojo news and his friends in the community might’ve been blowing up his dms.

>>54505281
I'm watching tob
I'm enjoying stay

>>54505281
DND tomorrow morning

>>54505180
>Normally she'll pull down a VOD immediately if she thinks she went to far, but not that time
Silver doesn't check in with social media often.

What probably happened is she ended stream, saw nothing wrong with what she said and didn't check Twitter until a few days later. Then, seeing all the heat, she tried to bury the evidence.

I got so many fucking words filtered, I just see people complaining and don't know why kek

>Saiiren does nerd voice
>dick hard as diamonds
GOD WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME

>>54505230
This 100%. Her mother is the only person on Earth she trusts/respects enough to convince her to do anything.

>>54504959
it's not ADHD or Autism, it's trauma from a bad relationship with her father, and probably because of her father led to her having self-esteem issues and cuz of that leading to her five x's which they kind of sound like dirtbags and I think at least one of them was abusive(he did throw a keyboard at her head for losing a game of League).

>>54505318
I can see it, yeah. It's not a thing that is new to them, they've been an idol duo for more than 10 years now. They are basically Kiara with less horny posting.

>>54505320
oh yeah as soon filian exposed her bullshit she deleted and dmcad everyone that made clips of it. You will only find "good clips" of her on youtube.

>>54505252
>hy·poc·ri·sy
>noun
>the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform
Shut the fuck up retard

>>54505369
The fuck

>>54505319
After the drama went down Filian basically did a stream to try and dissect it. During this shit she decided to try and get some info from Silver's perspective, and she chose to do this by watching Silver's stream from that night. Filian was trying to damage control both sides, basically saying hey this isn't our space to say anything, nobody means any disrespect here, and then she got to THAT clip of Silver's. She basically played it off shortly after as saying that hey nobody will ever know what happened, and moved on.

About 1-2 hours later there was a Dexerto article on the situation. Said article linked to some of the very same clips that Filian had watched, but the stream was now gone and the clips ewre unavailable. It's extremely likely that Filian watching those clips and the reaction she and her chat had to them pushed Silver to delete the VOD lol.

>>54505230
Didn't she say she was considering therapy/getting meds after the dad stream? Guess nothing came of it.

>>54505388
>they're basically Kiara
It's worse than I thought.

>>54505408
Exactly. So it's the opposite of hypocrisy. Just because people throw the word around, doesn't make it so.

I was gone for 5hrs WTF is happening here

>>54505445
why? When you can just sit on your ass surround by yesmen who will pay 50 bucks a month to be with you. Why even try to get better?

>>54505446
I mean that in the sense of "they will want to do songs", "they will absolutely be into fan interaction", "they will want to do events" and they will loves to do collabs with everyone (who are not Holostars). Like I said, they are exactly suited for Holo's brand of walled garden.

>>54505436
>and then she got to THAT clip of Silver's
Man, the way Filian got stunlocked during that moment
You could hear the gears turning in her head trying to steer clear of the drama

>>54505552
nothing really... People are talking and having a discussion.

>>54505552
Me on the left

>>54505385
Forbidden info, but the thread's moving fast enough so who cares. The ex was also sexually abusive (making her do sexual things she didn't want to do/didn't enjoy,) and a constant liar/manipulator. Back in 2019/2020 she mentioned being unable to feel safe, being unable to trust other people, having issues with relationships, and sexualizing herself on discord as a way to feel in control sexually (and to feel loved and sexually desired without actually having to be in a relationship.) I don't think she's ever talked about her father in depth aside from him being an abusive alcoholic who walked out on them (might've been a divorce with joint custody based on Silver's comments in her vent stream.) That stream also made it sound like her mom protected her and her brother from him and that's why she's so attached to her.

>>54505398
They got DMCAd? I thought she just deleted the clips

>>54505631
welp that explains silver character and everything. Case closed.

>>54505665
some youtube videos are gone but only the ones of her talking shit about vshojo and mouse.

>>54505674
Growing up poor in the absolute middle of nowhere flyover state rural US will do that to you.