/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>they decided to quit
>we faithfully communicate with them and respect their decisions
Kek, 2% in the flesh

>>54472890
> Will of the livers who say they wish topursue a life or career outside of VTUBING
What a fucking piece of shit outside of Vtubing instead of outside of Nijisanji. The narcisist freudean split.

>gee oh man I can't imagine why these chuubas would quit my black company!
Killing Nijiniggers isn't actually enough, they need to be slowly tortured to death. Every single one.

>>54472890
>small number

>>54473103
It's a mistranslation, of course the retarded OP picks the uncorrected one (fucking moron)

>>54472890
They would stay if you increased the percentage

>"Assuming that we exclude the cases of violations with compliance and controversy"
Oh gee, really?

>>54472890
fuck, if I knew how to photoshop I would turn Riku into the Joker

>>54473103
>>small number
-1:+5

lmao just straight up lying
what a piece of shit

>>54473034
i gotta wonder, how many of the quitters actually did give up on vtubing? it seems like everytime a niji graduates they reincarnate pretty quickly

>>54473479
Most of the JPs who graduate stop vtubing, but this board only fucking knows about EN shit or whatever drama sperges out from someone's anus who does watch JP/2chan

>>54472890
Did the shareholders pull out after this?

>>54473612
You can't expect them to know what they are talking about. They just listen to whatever FalseNewsD tells them to think.

>>54473479
Isn’t Noor the sole survivor of proto-NijiEN?

>>54473718
Holy fuck this looks like a massive whale just sold off all their shares

>>54472890
>Outside of vtubing
Except most of them keep streaming as vtubers, like gundou said Nijisanji is a prison

>>54473612
Gundou came back immediately after her fake graduation. Now defend the ethics of forcing someone to apologize to the shareholders or else even while you fire them, Nijisister.

>>54473133
>What makes us sad is even though we were able to manifest their abilities as a vtuber, they decide to quit.
This comes off as very self absorbed, painting any chuuba who quits as the problem because it can't possibly be the company who "manifests" their talent. Cancelled concerts, terrible management and bad revenue splits. There are plenty of reasons to take your talents elsewhere.

>>54473612
i don't know much about the jps, i know that gundou and lulu reincarnated, i think gibara is doing something that isn't vtubing and i seem to recall a dog that quit (for health issues maybe?) and didn't reincarnate
>>54473761
noor is a manager now i believe

>>54473612
Well at least Luna didn't quit Vtubing and not Lulu did go back to Vtubing. Didn't gibara also go back to Vtubing? Gundo also didn't stop Vtubing. Though honnestly 4 may not be 2% of niji graduate so you may be right.

>>54472890
Fucking corrupt piece of shit ceo! He's been brought out by the fucking Chinese, fucking pieces of fucking shit!

>>54474133
Pretty sure his shittyness is all him, nothing to do with the chinese

>>54473718
>50% drop in a single day.
Holy shit. That's one for the loss porn folder.

>>54474044
Pretty sure he was refering to cases like Gundou when he mentioned the word 炎上

>>54473909
stock split

>>54472890
>we were able to manifest their abilities
All niji vtubers are AI, and when they gain the abilities to think for themselves, they decide to quit.

>>54472890
what a lying piece of shit. they never did anything to help lulu with her stalker and harassment issue

>>54472890
t.

>>54474779
the tears

>>54474044
>>54474127
can you guys say to me where the JPs who graduated in 2018, 2019 and 2020 are right now? because thats most graduations and only the most recent ones we know they are still out there, not the earlier ones.

>>54473910
most of them? where are the ones who graduated in 2018 outside of luna?

>>54475081
2018-2023

>>54473718
>>54474402
Didn't they just split their stocks?
So now each is worth 1/2 of what it used to.

>>54472890
You guys are all idiots. Most of Nijisanji do not come back. Go look at how many members there are and how many have graduated. There's a bunch of who? in there that you guys don't care about.

>>54475081
Setsuna literally appears in Deron's stream again, but as a no cam streamer.

>>54472890
But Takumi-san, you didn't answer the question...

>>54473244
It's so funny he specifies that.

AAAAAIEEEEE NIJI DEFENSE FORCE TASUKETEEEEEE

>NijiCN

AAAAAIEEEEE NIJI DEFENSE FORCE TASUKETEEEEEE

>>54475330
so, what about the rest? i never have seen anyone talking about what the members who graduated from niji in 2018 do..

>>54475661
Because it was 5 fucking years ago?

>>54475256
>>54474414
Did they split their market cap too?

>>54475740
Where is my fox mom?

>>54475626
thats badly resumed, the question was about china and indonesia iirc, which he said something along the lines of NijiEN being responsible for asia with their language. honestly this resume just sucks.

>>54475740
yes but whenever i ask what those members did after graduating i only ever hear about luna

>>54475765
It's a glitch seeing as how it's been 30-40 dollars steady for months now

the stock dropping 50% would mean the company is literally in flames

>>54474407
That's a bit passive aggressive from him, but Gundou also has her own reasons and from what I saw the way he dealing with drama he seems like a control freak toward his livers.

>>54472890
>We give them a chance to compete using our brand but they failed
Well technically right, but why does Hololive ID can succeed far more than your ID branch? They're doing the same, giving the HoloID girls a chance to compete under Hololive brand.

He needs to know that the law of nature on the survival for children is to guide them through the harsh world until they're ready.
ID market is an infant, they need guidance on how to cultivate the immature market. Hololive did that and they succeed. Nijisanji just left their ID children to survive in the wilderness without any prior knowledge.

>>54473133
was the only mistranslation "a small number" / "a considerable number" or am I retarded?

>>54473103
They've only graduated more vtubers than the number of active hololive vtubers right now. That's pretty small in his book.

>>54473612
no they fucking didn't i bet you don't even follow the jp side so why are you larping

>>54476028
Because HoloID speak English and Japanese with the exception of one who came into a branch that was already heavily propped up by English and Japanese speaking talents.
NijiID on the other hand does have some successful people in it but the common theme is that they speak English primarily.
Niji ID was given special events in Indonesia, special merch sold in Indonesia and advertised in Indonesia but most Indonesians don't have great Internet or interest in watching. From what I've heard Niji ID themselves liked being small and harassed members who got too big, their fans also enjoyed gatekeeping their small oshi because the fewer people watching their oshi, the better.

>>54476028
Because they fumbled it. Id, kr, india. EN and JP they didnt, although EN still is mismanaged even if it became a successful branch

>>54474127
Well those are the really notable ones that did left so its not that hard for people to recognize and find them again, a ton who left were probably unpopular and might not even had any viewers who cared enough to look for their reincarnation. At the very least of notable ones, I think Miyazumi hasn't resurfaced yet.

I don't really get the seething behind the statement. Seems pretty much like a regular corpo speak. I could see yagoo saying this honestly.
>We did what we could to support them and even though they chose to graduate we continued to support them throughout the process and wish them the best
I dunno, maybe it's because I'm a business owner myself, albeit small, but when my hired hands quit, I wish them the best and support them in their choices. Basically the same thing we're reading with this statement.

>>54474127
gibara did quit to try to be an idol but she failed and went back to being a vtuber

"Small Number"

>>54476482
I totally forgot they had a pajeet branch. Weren't they turned into niji staff?

>>54476959
Yes. And from whats been said about them. They're pretty good

>>54474069
It's a shareholder call, of course they are going to put themselves in as good a light as possible.

>>54472890
another yacht !

>>54472890
I'll never forgive Anycolor

>>54476550
Mayuzumi is a flesh streamer and real life model now.

>>54476829
its about the optics, Yagoo could say this and get away with it but Yagoo also didn't have a shitty year

>>54477000
Cheaper labor too I guess.

>>54473479
all of the KR graduations from last year reincarnated, with Yami even doing so only a couple hours after her graduation stream. Mia has since stopped vtubing altogether

>>54476829
The way he said it, it's more like "we spent all that time making them vtubers and then they quit. Good for them, I guess"

>>54476941
i like how you still put shangai and taipei to make it bigger. you dont need that, it alredy is big without them, who only had a license from nijisanji name

>>54477145
Neither does anycolor or nijisanji. well, except for side branches like en or non existent like id

>>54477252
ching cheng henji

>>54477316
lol riku, get back to work

>>54473133
I genuinely didn’t notice much of a difference, can you tell me what it was? Reading both, it still feels like Anycolor would rather lose talent than do anything to improve the situation at the company like the lazy cheapskates they are.

>>54473133
>Assuming that we exclude the case of violations with compliance and controversy...
K E K
E
K

>>54477252

>>54473133
>we were able to manifest their abilities as a vtuber
This retard really thinks that talents owe anycolor(black) their success.

>>54477316
>it wasn't a bad year trust me
I will never get nijisanji fags who drop to any low to defend the company no matter what, at least holofags call out cover when they do retarded shit like the taiwan stuff

>>54476482
If you look deeper into Bora it's scary how much more successful someone can be with the right support.
>>54476396
If you think NijiEN is a clique you don't want to look into ex-ID and yes the went with the "It's just a hobby and i want to be lowkey". I will never forget my first and only stream i watched from Nara as she went on a 2 hour rant about her period and how it shouldn't be stigmatized.

>>54475902
of course its been updated long ago to reflect the split and the guy is still dishonestly posting that

>>54472890
>>54473133
>"A small number of Livers have graduated in one year."
vs
>"A considerable number of Livers have graduated in one year."

Yeah, real big fucking difference. Everything else in the images are the fucking same, you autist.

>>54477839
Nijisanji really is one of the few companies where its more intense fans go beyond being fanatics and have almost cult like tendencies. Defend the figurehead at all costs, no dissenting opinions at all, vilify those that leave, it’s honestly amazing that Nijisanji or at least its EN branch made it this far.

>>54477700
... retard, virtuareal and nijisanji shangai and taipei arent the same
>>54477531
>>54477839
by any objective means they are doing great. Profitable, high revenue, as a company there's nothing to complain.

It makes me sad that these so called "vtubers" decided to throw the GIFT given to them in the trash. Do they even know how many people would suck dick and sell their souls just to be in Niji? Ungrateful bastards.

>>54478931
>vilify those that leave
Hololive fans do that with coco and rushia lol

>>54474044
Yes because she fucking QUIT Niji because she was tired of people going "lmao this bitch is tainting the BRAND" Gibara word-for-word says she was tired of doing that much work. For Lulu, everybody knows why she quit. Most of the members just quit being vtubers even if they're still doing streaming shit like Mayuzumi

>>54479012
Coco was literally worshipped and still is to some degree.

People call out Rushia for being retarded, but people who liked her never stopped

>>54478931
Holodrone projection

>>54479285
anon.. coco might be respected but kson gets shit here every day

>>54472890
Somebody get the NotGundou and NotWabareda exchange

>>54479377
isnt it funny how only those two talk like that and one of them was involved in more than 20 controversies in 5 years while renewing her contract with that prison

>>54473718
stock split amateur

>>54479359
>here
That doesn't change what I said at all, infact this board even still has ksonfags, people didn't even dislike kson until she joined vshojo and some don't give a single fuck about that regardless.

Somebody get the NotGundou and NotWarabeda exchange

>>54479584
>stock split
even worse

>resign / grasuate from niji as a streamer / vtuber
>become independent streamer / vtuber afterward
hmm

holobronies getting really desperate now after the holizontal announcement and member after member getting caught playing valorant off-stream with males lately
https://twitter.com/hoshiyomi140097/status/1684316929903697921

>>54479648
>it's okay until she joins a rival company
Menawhile Niji fans didn't give a shit about Bora going to VSPO. She even gets the same viewership she used to unlike Kson. Sounds like you're the drone here, holodrone.

>>54479661
This one?

>>54473718
Oh hey, could someone make a bait thread with this? I want to laugh at the holobronies' faces. The fact is, even after the split, it's still higher than their company

>>54479884
You mean VSPO fan? No one in Niji gives a shit about Bora.

This guy is fucking liar most of the graduate is because they don't have support bitchass and their percentage is Hella bad

>>54479648
>people didn't even dislike kson until she joined vshojo
Brother we were "I fucking hate that bitch" posting well before the Taiwan Affair.

>>54479884
That’s because NijiKR’s management was actual black company tier, it only took her and Yuya leaving before the management would get any shake up.
Who knows if the same will happen with NijiEN.

>>54472890
jezas

>>54472890
>have you thought about not being a billionaire and paying your talent more?

>>54472890
>Twitter link as the thread title
holyshit nuke this board, this is getting even worse than was imaginable

>>54480863
>implying that bitch posting wasn't ironic
which is why it became
>I fucking miss that bitch
soon after right?

>>54479903
ayo wtf is this? how were they treated in there lmao

>>54477038
>RECORD PROFITS!!!!!!!!!!1111
is a good example of this effect. Fuck I hate lying corposhits so goddamn much. I used to hold stock at Mattel and saw right through the bullshit when they went "MUH RECORD PROFITZ!" while posting lower sales numbers than the previous years. Bull shit you faggots, you just laid off a bunch of your employees and skimped out on QA on your products (which eventually leads to even lower sales). I hate lying snakes in neckties and they were no doubt reveling in being able to dick around gullible shareholders around with their money, so I dumped it all right there and it's $6 per share lower now than it was then.

>>54479878
heres your (you)

>>54473479
They reincarnate when they remember what wageslaving is like.

>>54472890
2% and no support in action

>manifest their abilities as a vtuber
Two years and two months and all Lazulight has gotten from Anykara is an L2D concert.

>>54485045
Didn't they get 3d already? That's two things they got

>>54485336
what use is a 3D that won't get used by the talent's own projects

>>54483554
Anon made a record profit

>livers

>>54472890
Really hate this ugly fuck

>>54487518
Can someone repost that picture of yagoo choking him like that sasuke meme

>>54477316
>Don't look at the livers who are having a mental breakdown I don't consider them a part of the company.

>>54478963
>There is nothing to complain about
>Nijisanji is a jail
>I am quitting because of my fans
>I got harrased and doxxed
Amazing how none of these seem like problems to you when the shareholders themselves asked about this in the meeting, ofcourse riku just lied to them but keep bootlicking.

>>54479359
>Here
A whole sample size of what 500? Out of several million subscribers hololive has?

>>54479359
Coco is the hero of hololive.
She got rid of the chinks.
and got rid of kson some time after.
what a legend

>>54487789
>>54487963
im not bootlicking anything but looking at the reality. a company is doing well if its making money, a company is doing bad if its not making money

>>54472890
>pursue a career outside vtubing

Most of them remain vtubers just indies

>I didn't make them quit, they made themselves quit, it was their choice to quit

>>54472890
>Doesn't even present the possibility of providing incentives and work plans to prevent graduations
>Does not praise their accomplishments, it's them who "manifests" them
>Clings onto the notion the company as all-deserving for giving them a step-up, rather than mutual benefit
>Shares didn't plummet after he effectively said "when the product goes, it goes!"
The best we can hope for this irredeemable impersonation of a modern-day female video game protagonist is that they get a visit from a disgruntled gachikoi and is made to step down from their position the old fashioned way, fuck this cunt.

>>54479359
Nobody fucking likes anybody here

>>54488635
all of these words for things that will never happen. You can seethe but the reality won't change at all. Welcome to companies, btw, hopefully you can someday understand vtuber agencies are one just like game, music and movie companies

>>54473034
Not wrong tho..
If any chuuba decide to quit their company and reincarnated in other company, they will sent their goons (nijifags) to harass them.

>>54488949
yes, im sure Bora got a lot of harassers when she went to VSPO. Instead we got Kson getting harassed for abandoning the holo family

>>54488933
sometimes i do wonder if anons in this board ever had contact with companies with how they view them and think they aren't automatically by existence anti-consumer, anti-worker and greedy.

OP really went to a SEA website to see this, im baffled but not surprised

>>54472890
So is this guy really a piece of shit or is that just a rrat? I don't really care about Nijisanji enough to pay attention, but I know people really like to meme about it a lot.

>>54476941
>in one year
>anon post all the vtubers that graduated since the company creation

What a fucking retard

>>54488933
Nobody needs some jaded 20-something giving their braindead cynical observation about shit, get a personality you depressed doomer

>>54472890
>>54473133
>There's nothing wrong with us, in fact, they should be grateful to us. And we're sad that they're leaving but we respect their decision to move on.

>>54488635
I think you might be retarded. There are already a ton of incentives. You reach 100k subs and you get a guaranteed shot at eventual 3d, you get constant money from voice packs and superchats and even merch, travel is provided for free if it's company related and of course being in a company boosts you pretty heavily.
It's the same thing you get from most companies when you quit. You get a paycheck and a sayonara. When coco quit she got a good graduation and her final song.
>>54476829
The statement is the same statement just about any employer would give. I'm pretty sure half the anons itt have never worked at a job which kinda explains the seething

>>54475824
>about china and indonesia
Riku certainly couldn't say anything about Nijisanji giving up on Indonesia and letting Hololive dominate

>>54490260
thats because Riku dont remember KR and ID exist anymore, so he cant respond that. i say that as a nijifan, thats the impression i get kek

>>54479878
>check the account of people who reply/RT/liking it
>most are vtuber antis and antis falseflagging as holofans concernfagging about male-female interaction
here's your (You)

>>54472890
Why didn't he told the truth the reason people are graduating is because he's scamming them. He basically just said "We will give you the platform to become a vtubber but in exchange you have to learn to eat shit and like it" what a piece of shit that guy is. Is he japanese because right now he's acting more chink than the chinks that harassed coco.

>>54473133
How is this any different from the actual truth? Because the truth is people are leaving because he is scamming them.

>>54491006
>bro doesn't know about second account
contrary to popular belief, fans don't want to get dogpiled on by rabid cultists just because they don't like certain things a chuuba do

>>54473133
it would be more believable that grads pursue a career outside of vtubing if they all didn't go indie 2 months after graduation

>>54491339
By his skull and face shape I am 100% certain he is a "naturalized" gook. The same sort that run most of the sketchy businesses in Japan

>>54491795
A lot of them don't. A lot of japs who have left over the past are either 2views who are so unheard of not even other japs recognize them or went to work in an actual business. Same goes for a lot of ex kr and id

>>54489358
And yet this board exists.

>expecting him to say "NAH WE FUCKED UP, IT'S OUR FAULT THAT THEY LEFT" to a shareholder
The SEAniggers n this board are something else. These are the same holodrones that will argue Cover isn't at fault for Coco leaving, it was just "muh chinks" even though she stated it herself that it because of the restrictions Cover placed on her.

>>54472987
oof

>>54473718
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>54472890
>>54473133
>wish to pursue a life or career outside of vtubing
>most of the graduates are still doing vtubing

>making it seem like livers who leave just got bored of being vtubers
>making it seem like they betrayed the company and not the other way around
Reading covers investor call and Tazufaggots is like night and day.

>>54489064
What kind of revisionism is this? If anything Kson only got shit on when she joined Vshojo.

I see niSEAsanji defense force are working over time licking riku's anus

>>54472890
>Its your fault! You let the company down!

How many times have we heard that in regards to black companies? Goes in line with the classics
>I can't quit, my colleagues depend on me
>I can't go on vacation my team needs me
>I can't leave before my boss, I'll lose face

Another Niji Yab. Can't imagine why they'd quit.

>>54498335
i see sea holodrones are here to do their console war bs

>>54498625
A console war nijifags started before the inception of this board btw

>>54494077
>Vtubing is an opportunity that allows our talents to experience a landscape that is both unique and at times, unpredictable. We understand that not everyone will see it as a fit to their lifestyle. We continue to cultivate our talents to the best of our abilities and ensure that our alumni exit the company with the best opportunities possible.

Instead
>WHY ARE OUR VTUBERS LEAVING?!? THEY SHOULD BE GRATEFUL WE GAVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK AT THIS COMPANY!!

Anon, stop drinking the kool-aid. You cannot be this autistic.

>>54472890
oh fuck it was TRUE

anykara and they chose BLACK

>>54499346
Another invention from Nijisanji that was stolen by Hololive. No need to copy everything Nijisanji does, you know?

>>54500167
I'm sure you felt your response was very clever in your head but in reality it makes no sense at all because you can't "steal" a war. But it's ok, nijifags aren't known for their intelligence. Nijifags started a war and it's just continued until this day and it will never end. That's all it is.

I wonder how meiro-chan is doing these days.

>>54479734
Are you retarded? Or trying to save face?

>>54473133
Even with that correction it still sounds scummy and very egotistical
"We" ? Those Livers built their audience thanks to their persona, not some Nijisanji mumbo jumbo magic. That statement disgust me.

>>54500980
>Shitposts on an imageboard
>a war
Yeah there was no way that Holobros could have stopped themselves from becoming the biggest corpo drones and tribalfags. Good thing numberfagging was also invented by Nijisanji, so Holobros can have their own numberthread. You see, Holodrones had no other choice, because le Nijisanji bad.

>>54478043
Even with stock split the fact that the heavy hitters are resigning one by one will have huge effect on Anykara in the long run.
This is like how Disney slowly destroying their own legacy. Last year everyone still try to defend Disney but this year Iger is ready to sell Disney lol

>>54502442
Don't use Nina as your reaction image you lil faggot

>>54476829
>>54489682
The statement is what any shitty employer that does not do self reflection would give to others. If your workers are quitting on you, the problem is your work conditions being shit, the pay is not enough, the work culture is bad, etc. Instead, Riku just "blames" the livers by painting them as ungrateful cunts because he spent money and they left. And regarding the question of trying to stop this trend? Totally ignored since they won't do anything to try to create the conditions to make them stay

>>54502339
anon are you retarded or what? you can only make that argument for the ones who debuted between 2018-2019. The others just like with hololive got an audience for free, unlike the ones who debuted early and built the popularity of the agency

>>54493223
Fuck you. Lulu and Era aren't nobody. You Nijifags are willing to throw them under the bus for your corporate bootlicking.

>>54502524
? what heavy hitters are resigning one by one? Kuzuha, Kanae, Salome, Mito, Sanbaka, Hoshikawa, Kenmochi, Sasaki, Fuwa, Ibrahim, the biggest ones are all in there.

>>54502709
retard, they clearly are talkinga bout the 2018 graduates. do you know the seeds who graduated from that time? no right?

>>54502442
>a console war started by nijifags
>responds by saying another invention from nijisanji stolen by hololive
>point out how that doesn't make sense since you can't steal a war
>suddenly it's not a war anymore and just shitposting when your retardation gets pointed out
Embarrassing. But by all means keep deflecting and seething, retard. I accept your concession.

>>54494077
You are retarded. As a shareholder, you want to know what measures are taken to protect their own product. What if a couple of top performers decide to not renew the contract because they didn't adopt any preventive measure?

>>54502724
already forgot nina and mysta
grim

OK, sorry. I won't post my former NijiEN oshi in a thread about Nijisanji and graduations, because it might upset you.

>>54489682
Your so called incentives still sounds scummy compared to Hololive
>Niji: Go get 100k subs and you get a 3D!
>Holo: You're here for ever a year, here's your 3D!
Also funny how you always put the voice pack in front and merch at the back. You know we know about the 2%. No matter how many time you try to make excuses their profit shares are still way too low compared to their competition.
Also remember Niji debuts came out of their own liver's pocket. Zero dollar from Anykara.

>>54502945
we replace them with new waves, accelerate

>>54502602
Even when they get audience for free at first, it's still their job to keep their audience to stay. No one want to watch a shitty actor.

>>54502724
>Not mentioning Nina and Mysta, while Shu is already considering quitting and the Rrat that Selen is next. Also no mention of Gundou

>>54503026
>we know about the 2%

>>54489682
>100k subs guaranted 3D
explain ex id and kr
>constant money from 2% merch
i guess money is money
>didnt even mention about zero dollar for new debut

>>54503234
Yeah, 3%

how much liver get from 3rd party merch? ex : figure
1%?

>>54503036
But the new waves keep getting lower numbers...

>>54503436
n.. ne... next wave surely

>>54503234
>SEA
>Probably fanmade merchs

>>54503648
That's official merch

>>54503234
LMAOOO
they knew about 2% merch.
that smile is sarcasm right?

>>54474111
Yeah, Noor is a manager of EN.

>>54502949
>>54503220
None of those you mentioned are heavy hitter but thank you for showing how you dont know anything about the overall popularity of nijisanji members LOL any EN could graduate and they wouldn't be a bit hit as those I mentioned as they do much more for nijisanji than any EN ever did. And Nina and Gundou arent heavy hitters, not even close to that. Shu, Mysta and Selen are mid-tier at best.
Lastly, you are a retard if you believe anyone who say they are a leaker.

>>54488608
pic is extremely related

>>54503809
Its sarcasm because hes making fun of retards like you all who believe this is true.

>>54502442
hilarious how holodrones adopted the "look what you made me do" attitude from chuds and still can't talk about vtubers. It's like they were the tourists all along

>small number

>>54504006

>>54476396
>gatekeep
You can't do that in post-ipo era.

>>54503925
the fact that i had to read that selen, mysta, shu and nina are heavy hitters is hilarious when none of them even reach 5k

>>54504128
They are already in the image

>>54503708
those are original goods created by the Livers themselves, and not sold on the Niji store, but instead on a Booth store. ID talents make these, which is why they look nothing like merch on the official store. The percent cut is different.

EN aren't allowed to have original goods, which Selen has pushed for time and time again, and has been denied, so she and the rest of EN are stuck with only 2% of merch.

>>54473718
https://twitter.com/VRchama/status/1685181451741069312

>>54503436
good thing over 90 nijisanji members who debuted between 2018 and 2019 still are in there, right? concidence or not, some of their most popular debuted in that time. Maybe its time for you guys to look at the current members roster, the debuts in those early years and see how many still are in there 5 and 4 years later, anons

I really caught the mutton with my dick

>>54504193
yes retard, thats the problem if you cant read. they never have been official members as the other company only had the license and lost it before it ended up dying.

>>54504294
It literally says they were part of and operated by nijisanji
They are nijisanji. Never reply to me again

>>54504211
? why the fuck are you talking about EN? EN is a minority in this agency. JP, ID and KR get to use it.

>>54504325
You really cant read huh?
>it was created by Capsule Inc with anycolor providing brading and technical support. however capsule lost the nijisanji brand and they abandoned the name, changing to vergo

>>54503925
>Gundou isn't a heavy hitter
Newfag please. Gundou was very much a pillar in Nijisanji in her prime

>>54504379
lol
lmao
pillar only for clipfags like you

>>54504253
>>54479584

>>54502442
>>54503992
ALL
OUT
WAR
LMAO

>>54504431
Funny how once a vtuber graduates they suddenly never mattered. Like Mysta who just a week before was hailed as the saving grace of NijiEN by /#/ and instantly he became a "holotraitor" when he did the graduation announcement
You "people" are fucking pathetic

>>54479734
Stock Splits are a good thing, dumbass—it means the company is doing well enough to the point where they lower the price to attract more investors. Although I don’t agree with 2434’s management, it’s clearly profitable enough and it’s likely that Koshien will only make the number go higher even with the split.

>>54504531
>by /#/
opinion discarded

>>54503925
>1m subs yt
>1m subs b2
>mid tier
how much for high tier?

>>54504328
>moving the goalpost this hard

2% on OFFICIAL merch dipshit, not the original goods, which are only ever allowed once in blue moon, if ever, for a Liver

Nijitards love sucking company dick, but don't know shit about how's it's run

>>54504574
he is saying only mysta kept nijicn relevant in the /#/ department
now that he is going expect a id/kr situation.

>>54504531
Even if Kuzuha graduates they will still claim how he was hated by everyone
Following CCP tactics down to the core. Unfortunately they will get called out on their bullshit and history rewriting here

>>54503925

This isn't Holo, Niji has only like 7 or so Livers with a million subs, and Mysta is one of them

>>54503925
>any EN could graduate and they wouldn't be a bit hit as those I mentioned as they do much more for nijisanji than any EN ever did
not even nijikek care about them, they are replaceable toy lol

>>54504823
Who the fuck cares about subs. CCV, concerts, albums, events, promotions, and everything invested in them are what matters. Mysta never had half of what kenmochi, fuwa and many JP with half of subs have.
>>54504854
I'm clearly talking on the perspectiv of the company, you retard

>>54504211
>>54504608
It is the official Nijisanji booth store. Notice how they also sell other official goods there.
The only thing you know is what the voices in your head revealed to you in a dream.

>>54504854
Correct they only oshi the stocks and their daddy Riku so they can fund his yacht

>>54504771
>>54504598
If Kuzuha graduates this will matter because unlike mysta, he's not a mid tier, hes a heavy hitter overall in a ton of diifferent areas. If you think anykara looks at mysta and luxiem the same way they look at their top 20 JP, you are delusional

>>54504988
>concerts, albums, events, promotions, and everything invested in them are what matters

If this is true then NijiEN is an abused house wife with two black eyes. A million subs and all you get is a cancelled concert. Blackest if companies.

>>54504598
>>54504771
kuzuha and kanae just got an anime in chronoir website while kanae was in a collab with mcdonalds last month but sure, anycolor sees luxiem and their biggest JP in the same way LOL

>>54505040
Mysta is in the top 10 of the entire company...

This guy is not wrong. Anycolor works differently than Cover. Anycolor operates like a Japanese entertainment company, they know audiences always want something new and make money a priority. While Cover started out as a game company that exploded with Vtuber, they made way too much money and constantly invested in crap. They seem to be living in Yagoo's dream

vtubing is and always will be a japanese market. Your worth is based on how well you influence japanese people. Japan first policy is the right move. Build a wall and make SEA pay for it

>>54504988
you just confirmed company also think they are replaceable lol what a retard

>>54505070
I honestly have no idea why you guys love to use black companies. is vtubing your first contact with companies or something? companies are naturally built to be anti-worker, anti-consumer, etc and to protect themselves while making money. theres no such thing as good companies, and black company is just a retarded term used badly when you just mean shitty company

>>54504994
Why isn't it on the official store? Why isn't the original merch in any store locations like official merch? Why does it looks cheap as shit compared to official merch? Because it's original goods retard, not official, and they get a different cut. Other shit is shoveled onto Booth for ID buyers.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about and keep changing your argument. Shut the fuck up and cry into your 2% cheapass pile of acrylic stands.

>>54505106
yeah, and he gets less than a mid tier JP, funny isnt it? thats my argument retard. The most popular EN wont ever get more than the mid-tier JP, because anykara priority always has been and will be JP.

>>54505176
...? you think im defending that they dont think like that? anon, are you some kind of retard? anyone is replaceable, thats literally how companies work all over the world. what matters for them like with 99% of the companies is one thing: making money and making the company survive, the rest doesnt matter, thats capitalism.

>>54505190
>multibillion dollar company
>make Livers pay for their own debuts

Yeah, it isn't a black company. It's a fucking ponzi scheme.

>>54505040
>>54505088

This exactly why Nijisanji needs to get their shit together, unlike Hololive, their brand value is unevenly distributed and as passionate as the fans of the liver’s are, there aren’t enough people in Niji who can fill the whole that will be left when ChroNoiR eventually leave.

Their 5th anniversary livestream confirmed they’ll at least be staying another year but beyond that, Nijisanji is in serious danger; at this point an influx of Graduations might come simply because vtubing, unlike regular content creation, comes with an expiration date and unfortunately all of Nijisanji’s popular talents are nearing a danger zone that can only be circumvented by making being a member of Niji worthwhile in comparison to another career.

>>54505332
Reminds me of Twitch, which depends on the top 1% of streamers, and doesn't know how to support the other 99%

>>54505240
and nijifans support this kind of obvious discrimination?

>>54505325
pretty sure paying 5k for a debut vid is optional and several have opted for a normal debut stream

>>54505332
niji isn't an idol company and they make people who want to be vtubers a vtuber. Maybe stop looking at graduations and start looking at debuts?

>>54505404
Only the corpo bootlickers from /jp/ who rush in to defend every retarded decision the company makes

>>54505416
What option? They either pay for their debut or they have nothing to debut with.

Why do NijiSisters twist their dicks into knots for shitty practices like this? It's a multi-BILLION dollar company. And none of them will even get to go on the yacht.

>>54505313
I can already tell you only care about company not the liver. who is your oshi anon? riku?

>>54505585
thats extremely funny because that never has been a problem for anyone before considering how JP, KR and ID all had extreme simple debuts for years. Only EN does that shit
>>54505404
"nijifans" arent a thing. you dont watch the entire agency, you might not even watch the entire branch. but yes, i couldnt care less, to me none of those overseas branches would even exist when its clear they only know the JP market and every overseas expansion either fails or is mismanaged.

>>54505585
did you look at rosemi's and shu's debut? they didn't pay for shit. Please get your information from somewhere else besides /#/

>>54505679
Yeah my oshi is riku, just like my oshi is microsoft, sony, nintendo, disney and all the companies in the world because im realistic about how every company is greedy, anti-worker and anti-consumer by default. Faggot, im literally a communista who hates capitalism, im not defending the company, im pointing out to you how this is how those fucking companies work

>>54505228
>Other shit is shoveled onto Booth for ID buyers.
The goods are produced by pixivFactory and not by Nijisanji themselves. This means lower risk for Nijisanji. The merch is still promoted by Nijisanji and it is the official Nijisanji Booth store, not "a Booth store". You didn't even know they had a Booth store before you came up with your original goods created by the livers cope, did you?
They also sold merch via Kotobukiya or Animate, but you probably know this, because you know how everything is run. How much is the cut for this baseball cap from Selen/Mysta not sold in the official store? Maybe the voices will reveal it to you.
Stop sucking FalseNews' Dick.

>>54505585
what the fuck is even that? do you people only know en or something? even in en, everyone prior luxiem had very simple debuts, heck even in luxiem shu was simple too. Just because some retardes decided to overspend doesn't make sense to make this argument. watch the debuts from jp, kr and id between 2018-2021 and youll see how its clear they didnt spend anything on it, or even just en debuts in 2021 in obsydia nad lazulight. youdont need to spend money to do a debut, unless you are a retard like zaion.

>>54505416

What I’m saying is that the rest of the talent of Nijisanji aren’t what’s representing the brand. When someone says “Nijisanji”, you don’t think of Akagi Wen or Kuramochi Meruto. You think of ChroNoiR/Niji EX-Gamers, ROF-MAO, and Sanbaka. The point I’m trying to make is that as lovely as the new talents are, they aren’t catching up to their predecessors and that’s extremely worrying because if enough of the large talent leave, Nijisanji falls like a house of cards.

>>54505933
well thats their own problem to resolve. Its certainly going to be interesting watching how someone huge leaving would affect their revenue and profit.

Something is off in Nijisanji. I will never support nornis even if Inui is in it. Akane got carried by her for a year and she still quits. Oh also afaik they never did anything non business related, really shows their bond.

>>54506048

guys I think they really were seeing the future

>>54506137

Akane was just sort of there for funzies. She didn’t posses the singing prowess Chima and Inui did and even outside of Nornis she hardly collabed with Selejo. chigusa sweep.

>>54506179
>literal numberfag larp
mito is the cornerstone of niji and not kuzuha

>>54497565
>wojak
holy fuck you retards need to go back to /v/ or whatever the fuck place keeps sending you tourists here

>>54506338
Levi should be in akane's place..

>>54506486
UNFATHOMABLY BASED
…in all seriousness however, it always confused me on why they would have Akane in Nornis when Levi has a much smaller skill gap in comparison to Chima/Inui. I liked her voice but it was obvious that her passion doesn’t over shadow the fact that she was an amateur.

>>54505843
You're clueless, but finally admitted that merch is different, which is why there is a different cut from the normal 2% merch (which is mass produced and actually promoted, unlike Original Goods which at times go without ANY promotion, see the Taka merch).

And the Koto/Animate store merch is the same as online, except for all the 2nd hand goods from limited collabs. These places are overflowing with merch "fans" toss out like trash.

>>54506618
I love the Magia cover they did together, but Nornis is also fine as a duo. Their AR mini-live was great.

>>54505843
that hat is collab merch, not an original good, so it's still 2%

>>54505332
You know jack shit about entertainment industry, Hololive is not the industry standard they are exception. Even in Hololive there is a clear different between their famous female brand and the homo. Outside Hololive every company, idol agency they all work like Nijisanji. Even the famous AKB48 the general public only know about original 48 girls, no one gives a shit about the later gens outside their niche fanbases.

>>54506918
Holochads keep winning

>>54506918
pretty much, nijisanji model is very similar to akb48, ironically

>>54506918
holostars isnt hololive

>>54506486
Levi is great but what was she thinking picking that name. When i found out about her and threw her name into search engines all i found was some old dead dude.

>>54505240
You know this is the opposite of flattering for the company right.

>>54508437
Nijisisters have this brain damaged way of arguing. They lay out how their shitty company is super shitty, but do it in a way that talks down to you.

"Of course we suck shit through a straw! That's what everyone uses straws for in Japan, retard!"

>>54497565
/biz/ bro...

>>54505416
Post one recently debuted JP live who is relevant, besides Salami.

>>54489064
>Instead we got Kson getting harassed
and the whore deserved every last bit of it

>>54472890
This man looks evil right from first glance even if I didn't have context for who he is and what he does.

>>54480414
None of us cares about money, profits or numbers you dirty fucking sociopathic jew

>>54479316
you are supporting an evil, arrogant self-centred man who treats every part of the "idol agency" that he owns and that you worship as a means to an end you vile piece of shit, not a single insult from you means a damn thing

>>54508630
ZHANG'S OUT

>>54508768
>t. /#/

>>54508857
i dont gave a shit about any of the china shit, i care about shaving her pussy hair ASMR stream and other freakish shit she did

>>54508905
i dont consider numberfags to be people

>>54479316
you really want to play this game, nijibug?

>>54508947
How to improve /vt/ in 3 easy steps

-Rangeban SEA
-Ban #'s

... That's it, didn't even need 3

>>54508851
And your misguided estrogen laced vitriol isn't doing anything about it. Maybe you should watch some masculine media once in a while

>>54509036
step 3 is adding posted IDs in threads so that we can see who the samefagging dicksword tranny raiders are

>>54509036
>ban sea
>its the same
im telling you its the leafs and the east euros

2% will haunt this company until their heat death

>>54509046
>And your misguided estrogen laced vitriol isn't doing anything about it.
You are more complacent than I am, I at least speak out against it instead of smugly shitposting
Half of you faggots dont even watch vtubers, this site in itsself is your hobby

>>54509046
NTA but calling it estrogen isn't right anon. People who criticized Niji are wagies who knew how it feels dealing with shitty management and companies. They're disgusted on how bad anykara treat their employees.

>>54509175
I watched 5 non-holo vtubers today. 2 of them aren't even streamers. You pretty much admit that you're the same as twitter activists with this corpo worship shit

>>54509229
I've never worked a day in my life, I'm morally opposed to it out of principle

>>54509245
>2 of them aren't even streamers
lol admitting to support twitter Vtubers

>>54509229
no it's perfectly worded. You make shit up for the sake of hating someone just a like a woman would

>>54477739
Talent is a bit of a stretch. I can't say any of them have really done much besides try to have fun.

>>54509299
>twitter
>virtual youtubers
lol admitting you're dumb

>>54509299
Not that anon but are you retarded? Do you know what VTuber is short for?

>>54509258
So you either
>Underage
>Student that waste his time on 4chan
>Guy leeching on rich parent(s)
>Guy leeching on middle class parent(s)
>NEET relying on govt buck
No wonder you're so insufferable

>>54509332
>Said the guy who act like a woman
Projection much?

>>54509365
>>54509405
There's a lot of people claiming to be "Vtubers" but all they do is posting on twitter all day long, anon.
ESL much?

>>54509446
>already seething because woman behavior called out
deflection much?

>>54509332
Not that anon, but men are shit too, they're worse most of the time. Fans that buy 50k cds and then smash them to bits and send death threats because their oshi cut their hair. You can't blame everything on women because then you just sound like an incel and nobody takes you seriously. Are we supposed to think you're like this because you're a woman too?

>>54509486
You're ESL, you dumbass. VTuber is shortened from virtual Youtuber. They make video content.

Kurosanji...

>>54509036
in your oshi is chinese SEA

>>54509576
now you're putting words in people's mouths. Again, watch some masculine media instead of your feminine slop so you can go back to acting like a man

>>54509766
You must be like 13 or something. Stop trying too hard to convince everyone you're manly and anything you don't like is because girls posted it.

>>54509161
Has there ever been a good Selen poster ever on this board?

>>54509983
literally saying the thread's gossip behavior is feminine so what are you going on about. Are you getting peeved because the shoe fits?

>>54477839
>retarded shit like the taiwan stuff
Except dropping china like it was a black baby was a very sound decision

>>54510135
You think men don't gossip? You must be new to life. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt by assuming you're underage and not a retarded recluse.

>>54510426
yeah okay this response is all I needed to judge who you are. Enjoy painting your toenails dude

>>54509528
>Calling me seething
Are you sure you're just too dumb to read properly?

>>54509628
SEA-kun.....

>>54510107
Good Selen posters already quit, anon.

>>54509332
>>54509528
>>54509766
>>54510135
>>54510510
>t. andrew tate's strongest soldier (14 years old)

>>54510510
Unironically, some of those people you have think that gossiping validates their identity. But they're just as retarded as you, which is why lesbians never accept them.

>>54510668
That other anon said he watched non-streamer Vtubers. Then you instantly start posting about twitter. You're the retard, you're the ESL, there is no room for debate on this. There is nothing you can post now to save face, I'm sorry. Simple as.

>>54510510
>goes to board about vtubers
>upset that people "gossip" (engage in conversation) about vtubers

>>54505876
>Spending money to make debut look as good as possible is now bad, zaion shouldn't have done it
Kys subhuman bootlicker

>>54511771
>to make debut look as good as possible
no one asked
kys falseinfo bootlicker

>>54473612
>JPs
So I guess the merged branches don't exist

>>54491489
> """""fans"""""