/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

tl:dr

>>54440425
>Many viewers from Chinese and English speaking countries
>China first
sasuga nijiCN

>>54440425
>he would rather increase the amount of livers

>>54440425
where's the part that says Selen is graduating?

>>54440425
Hololive meeting:
>Can you be more like Nijisanji?
Nijisanji meeting:
>Can you be more like Hololive?

>>54440470
Nijisanji is fine and things will continue as they have been. VTA’s suspension might result in them debuting faster

>>54440617
sub-10k debut before the end of the year. LETSGOOOOOOOOOO

>>54440603
The grass is greener on the other side

>>54440603
It’s not like they’re wrong for seeing that.
Nijisanji’s push into commerce is far greater than Hololive and debuts in general work for them as opposed to Yagoo forcing homos despite the interests into new girls
On the other side Nijisanji has no plans for the future past existing while Hololive is trying multiple avenues to better support their talents and growth even if a couple of them are retarded

Honestly Anycolor and Cover should do a Joint Venture to plug up their weaknesses then go their separate ways. A Nijisanji that can help their talents dream and a Hololive willing to cut away the cancer like the homos would be great for the industry. If either of them collapses vtubing dies because despite what the schizos think they are like 80% maybe more of the entire vtubing economy

>>54441003
this will knee cap hololive

>>54440603
Hololive meeting:
>Can you be more like Nijisanji?
NO

Nijisanji meeting:
>Can you be more like Hololive?
MAYBE? Were planning to invest in technology for it

>>54441003
>debuts in general work for them (Nijisanji)
do you really?

>>54441003
You're weird. Why would you force homos in hololive when they are separate projects?

>>54440470
No explanation for 2%

shareholder-only real events status?

>>54440425
Holy fuck there's so much misinformation here it's laughable

>>54440425
>Regarding slander
Maybe they wouldn't need to have a team specific for it if they weren't such a dogshit company
>Health management being one of the most important things for the company
Kek
>When livers and employees exchange they make sure there is no discomfort
Lol, lmao even

>>54443550
nijiseethe

>>54440425
Ichikara changed its company name to ANYCOLOR! for tax evasion

>>54440425
based

>>54440425

>....publicly announced as a delay...due to the impact of Covid.

So, they lied. We already knew that, but this is point blank admitting "yes, we lied".

Even normie Vtuber places already say "Nijisanji wouldn't be getting this many rrats if they didn't lie so much". So, you know how the mood is at the branch right now.

>>54441563
More like nobody is asking about that. Surprise, shareholders prefer the company having more money than talents because they invested on the company, not talents

I love how the aftermath of Haachama and Coco basically cut Cover off from a lot of technology and Nijisanji was able to pick and choose the best ones.

At the end I hope Niji dies, took away so many great people. I want my gacha loving Gorilla back

>>54449142
LMAO, unless you're talking about an advanced Chinese "technology" called "viewbots"

>>54441153
Hololive did say they want to sell more cheap merchandise (stuff like acrylic stands and pins) which is the backbone of Nijisanji's merch sales, and have also ramped up voice packs heavily over the past year.
Also while Cover answered the question about talent compensation in the shareholders meeting by saying the current compensation reflects the talents' performance and they don't want to decrease it, you can see in their slide deck how Expo merch made them a lot of money without a corresponding increase in performer compensation; tldr they also want to sell that cheap merch because the talent cut is smaller because it's "generic"

>it's a secret
>it's a secret
>it's a secret
Pitiful.

>>54441080
Why would being a girl group with all the resources focused on them kneecap hololive?

>>54441210
Your comparison doesn’t mean anything hololive has been 1 talent worth 5 since gen 3 debuted while nijisanji has been 5 talents to equal 1. The only problem is on Hololive’s side with them debuting waste of space that aren’t even 1 to 1 maybe 0.5 to 1 and if you compare to the girls 10 of them don’t even equal 1

>>54450636
>Your comparison doesn’t mean anything
cope and seethe

>>54440425
>"EN's commerce is growing rapidly, so focusing on EN events is very important"
The last fucking event in nijiEN was pre-Noctyx debut, cause I don't count nijiFes streams as a "EN event"

>>54450636
>>54450693
aiiiiiiiieee!

>>54450693
OHNONONONONO

>>54452224
>AX Panel
>First concert in SEA
>Anime Impulse Hopconcert
there's lots going on just not with 3D

>>54453456
All things that outside companies gave money to Anycolor in order to happen. Anycolor themselves haven't done any special events for EN since February 2022, unless you want to count NijiFes 2022 where a bunch of ENs were cut from the participants list because the company shit the bed on getting visas ahead of time.

>Many viewers from Chinese
lmfao nijiCN is real

>>54440425
>strengthening unit development
ACCELERATE

>>54448910
Yes.
Hell, it wasn't even announced as a delay, but a cancellation.
They're lying to the shareholders too.

>>54440603
It's funny. Every time.
They've been bouncing back and fourth like this for fucking years. (community wise, the stockholders have just become an extension of that mentality as well)
Each of them have been copying off each other with each little success they've had, or new technology.
I mean, it's to be expected really.
Both of them SHOULD be more like each other in some regards because it would actually make them more money.
More flexible L2D and 3D tools are always useful for the talents.
A larger spread of cheaper and more expensive merch, more variety in said merch, is also a good thing.

>>54450008
>tldr they also want to sell that cheap merch because the talent cut is smaller because it's "generic"
Ah, and this is probably true for hololive as well. Message received, I'll never buy an acrylic stand again, they suck dick anyway.

>>54440603
tl;dr investors from both sides wants to make more money and the only thing left is doing what the other company is doing

>>54452224
there was another intervie whit him saying EN is focusing on advertising onasia first and then will try to expand to english speaking countries.
is fucking bullshit of course since nijien doesnt have any pulling power on EN markets.
>the date of the cancelled concert happeningagain is company secret
sure

is just investor jargo and typical bullshit.

>>54440470
Nijibased

>>54450008
Anon, do you know why holomem always shill custom good from birthday and anniversary, that because they have creative input and investment for these merch. Acrylic stand and pin are just standard issue.

>>54448910
nijiliars being nijiliars

>>54450693
jezas

>>54458783
yeah, no shit, that's the whole point of selling generic merch, to earn passive income for the company that doesn't take a massive marketing push on the part of the talents

ok

>>54458840
>the only thing left is doing what the other company is doing
Not quite. Investors are generally devoid of creativity, and have no real opinions, solutions, or vision for what they invest in. They want profit, and don't care how. Therefore, they default to taking old opportunities from their competitors, because they're incapable of inventing new opportunities. There's still plenty of potential in vtubing.

>>54470401
That's just capitalism for you

>>54440425
Wow that is a bunch of question evasion or a bunch of nothing. They litteraly answered none of those question.

>>54441210
Bandage lol I still cant

>>54440425
literally the release more waves meme. kek

Black company.

>>54440425
>do you have a favorite Liver in the company
don't think he even knows a single one of them just like all the scummy CEOs in most companies

>>54471865
He had collab with Maimoto and a few other jp and talked to all EN before debut..

the yatch thing is funny because with a salary like that he cant buy one

Proposal No.2: Election of Three (3) Directors (excluding Directors who are Audit and Supervisory
Committee Members)
This proposal was approved and resolved as originally proposed. The three (3) candidates for Directors
(excluding Directors who are Audit and Supervisory Committee Members), Riku Tazumi, Shinya Tsurui
and Takeyuki Aritomi were elected, and all three (3) candidates assumed office.
Takeyuki Aritomi is outside Director.
Proposal No.3: Election of Three (3) Directors who are Audit and Supervisory Committee Members
This proposal was approved and resolved as originally proposed. The three (3) candidates for Directors
who are Audit and Supervisory Committee Members, Shunsaku Maekawa, Yasuko Umeda (Yasuko Iino)
and Tasuku Yamaoka were elected, and all three (3) candidates assumed office.
Each director is outside Director.

This proposal was approved and resolved as originally proposed. The amount of compensation for
Directors (excluding Directors who are Audit and Supervisory Committee Members) was determined at
no more than ¥300 million per year (including no more than ¥30 million for Outside Directors).

>>54472070
Iirc he actually did buy a nice boat but as per everything /here/ it got exaggerated into being something that it wasn't

>>54441210
kek are they really called krisis? sounds more like a cry for help

>>54440603
They want Nijisanji's cash flow and Hololive's popularity and prestige.

>>54449142
what are you even talking about

>Anycolor responds to investors about their plans for the future, including investing more in EN and expanding VTA
>All /vt/ can talk about is questioning why they're ignoring the TOTALLY REAL ISSUES like 2% rrats and Riku's yacht that were totally not made up by /#/ trannies we promise
the absolute state of this worthless board

>>54440425
There are barely any things which were answered here. Imagine actually spent time to attend a meeting then met with this kind of half-ass answers. Are Japanese shareholders this weak?

>>54474462
so true sis. don't forget to claim your gift card from manalyn later.

>>54474634
anon thats like 90% of shareholders meeting. look at game companies and youll see how they are always evasive kek

>>54474896
I'm honestly a little disappointed how few people seem to know that's par for the course, but I guess it's not surprising.

>>54474849
He's right tho. I've seen the yacht shit posted a lot and there's been like 0 posts with it.
If I wanna look up the new studio from cover I can find evidence, if I wanna see pictures of Jeff bezos yacht I can find that, but somehow something that lives rent free in the heads of the people /here/ seems to have less backing for it than 90% of rrats here.
I've also been told he bought a decent sized boat but not a yacht

>>54476577
Let us know when you find out where all their profits are going to. It's more than Hololive.

>>54440603

The reality is both companies are doing great but it's obviously better to be a Hololive vtuber from the talent perspective.

>>54440603
based

>>54478180
>where all their profits are going to
to his account? are you fucking retard?
the "yacht" is such a retarded shit people say over and over
in vt's mind everyone that gets rich has to own a stereotypical multi-million objects that make headlines?

Dude probably living in a luxury house/apartment fucking luxury prostitutes while drinking alcool from expensive brands
instead of buying shit like yachts and supercars

>>54476577
I think the same. this yatch thing even broke containment and some retards use it out there with some even beliving this is true while there's not even any proof of that. lie a lot and it becomes the truth i guess

>>54478901
b bbut it's not a yacht. I'll make it easier for you.
Yacht is a metaphor. It's the biggest waste of money among the rich.
Doesn't have to be a real yacht. There has been little showing of where Niji profits are going to, while Hololive is transparent where all that money goes.
You have one of the richest and youngest CEOs Riku, vs Yagoo, who claims that some talents make more than him. It's not an outlier, Nintendo and Sega CEOs don't take over 1000 times their employees either.

Cmon, look at the money Cover has put in with EN3 debuts. Recently leaked that Cover does give them money to help, not counting the animations and lore, unlike NijiEN where the talents have to come up with their own lore and pay themselves for anymore more than a stream.

actions speaks for itself

>>54440425
mucho texto

>>54479544
>then where does the money go!!!
well, each liver who gets over 100k has a guaranteed 3d, they built a new studio last year, they do pay for advertising as well and then you have the 3.0s as well as new outfits for the livers that are completely free. Travel expenses are paid for as well as hotels and complimentary dinners during large events. People also get a salary to shop with while they're part of the event.
They're constantly hiring and expanding staff when they're capable of doing so and of course the many investors and shareholders get a percentage of the profits as well. Not to mention all the artists they pay for the livers and other fees as well or the fact that the 3d is still better than Hololives honestly. it's capable of doing things like even casting the reflection of things onto virtual water during performances and I have to say that Lazulights home 3d models look leagues better than myths.

Overall I'm sure that the CEO and shareholders are making the most amount of money but everyone employed by anycolor receives some of it and when you have over 100 people, it's definitely not all going to the CEO.

>The goal is to create change in the Japanese animation content market
What? Nijisanji anime?

>>54486142
Wasn't jp working on an anime kinda thing?

>>54486858
They just released a trailer for a Chronoir anime

>>54479544
>Cmon, look at the money Cover has put in with EN3 debuts. Recently leaked that Cover does give them money to help, not counting the animations and lore, unlike NijiEN where the talents have to come up with their own lore and pay themselves for anymore more than a stream.
what even is this argument about lore. Literally eveyone gets basic lore, its listed in their debut and show in their character design. where this lore thing even come from when its not like theres any obligation to do that except retarded EN who for some reason want to spend money on that? this lore you talk about is something extra.
> It's not an outlier, Nintendo and Sega CEOs don't take over 1000 times their employees either.
Neither does anycolor. Japanese companies dont have executives receiving a lot of compensantion. in this very meeting the max they can get is 2 million with bonus, which is the default for most executives in japan

>>54473868
krisis more like cry sis amirite?

>>54472070
that's why he's embezzling funds anon

Can anyone tldr the yacht? Did he buy one or not?

>>54474462
maybe if he had actually answered any questions other than keep going "corporate secret" we would have more stuff to talk about other than wonder where all the "record breaking profits" are going to

>>54449142
>I love how the aftermath of Haachama and Coco basically cut Cover off from a lot of technology
the roleplaying retards who know absolutely nothing about business or the world in general on /vt/ are astounding
no other board on 4chan is this clueless about real-world affairs

>>54489167
it's just rrats/meme to explain why Anycolors profits are always rising yet the company doesn't seem to invest any of it back into itself that we can see

>>54485552
I'm a 3D artist and all the stuff you're talking about costs fucking peanuts compared to what they make

>>54489540
That's cool but 3d was only one of the things I mentioned and I'm also guessing you're not that well known of one, no offense.

>>54489841
>I'm also guessing you're not that well known of one
how does that matter at all you fucking retard
like you mention reflections, you don't pay extra money to get reflections, that's not how it works at all

>>54489934
Youre a self employed nobody, it's not exactly surprising that you get peanuts. These guys are working for a salary and presumably some benefits as well
And I mentioned reflections to point out that more money overall has been invested into anycolors 3d program than covers. Maybe with the new studio that will change but last I heard they didn't even have enough people to run the studio

>>54490131
I'm not self employed, where did I say that
Most of the things you mentioned are art related, and the art expenses for vtubers are low, you've been led to believe they're far more valuable than they are because they make a special event out of 3Ds and outfits and shit, but one of those 3D models only takes 1-2 weeks to create
You don't "invest money into a 3D program" to get better results, it's not like a video game tech tree

>>54489540
3D is a milestone goal, if it didnt matter and anyone could do it anyone would get 3D in that level out there.

>>54490364
artificial scarcity

>>54472070
Riku sell his own share a bit when the price is high like a kite, anon
He doesn't need his salary as a CEO to buy a fucking yacht.

>>54440470
Nothing
Nothing
Nothing

Academy Suspended.
Don't ask about merch.
No nijisanji store.
EN is an area... of Chinese and anguish fans.
Sorry can't tell you about our super secret recording studios.
Riku refused to say who his favorite Liver is... since he doesn't watch any to busy sailing the yacht please understand.

>>54490323
You have to have good software and tracking in order to run that and more of what I was talking about was the rigging costs and of course it costs a lot of money to get full body tracking for 50+ different people all at once.

It requires some pretty beefy hardware in order to not only track several people all once but cast reflections that are capable of refraction as well. Even the hardware for tracking 60+ live2d models is pretty beefy. You ever seen what it's like when you get even half that on the same screen with the ability for them to all move? There's a lot of expense that undoubtedly goes into their systems

>what about the VTA indefinite suspension?
sing/dance/acting lessons are important.
???

>>54491446
It's not the first time it's been suspended. It's likely suspended currently due to the heat, singing and dancing in this heat might be a bad idea. You wouldn't want to exhaust people in the middle of a humid heat wave where people are passing out on their way to work due to it

>>54491446
its a terrible resume, just go to the original
>>54491016
he still has like 40% shares so thats going to end in like 15 years

>>54491560
So, what, are they making the VTA students do their livestreams outside? Or do they not have air conditioners turned on inside?

>>54491784
Ask
>>54491615
He read it, I didn't.

>>54485552
>100k subs
>guaranted 3D
explain ex id and ex kr

>>54485552
>t. Nijiintern
Even that thai dacapo 2d concert mogged nijisea karaoke with his transition scene.

>>54492021
A lot of ex id didn't have 100k and it's a waiting list with several people ahead. Hana already got hers though
>>54492172
Cool man, but that doesn't discount any of what I said. The fact that you probably saw both of the concerts live kinda tells me all I need to know about you.

>>54440425
>invest in technology
They must be investing pretty poorly then cause their studio hasn't shown improvements since 2021 and it's inconsistent as fuck because the quality of the tracking depends on how much money the talent wants to spend.
Their L2D app is archaic as fuck, even the Hololive app is miles ahead and the gap keeps growing when it comes to the home3D app as well.

>Regarding EN AR canceled event
>It's because of cOvId
>Resumption is SECRET
>EN commerce is growing even when our EN livers are quitting!
Really Anykara?
>Regarding technology
>It's another company secret but we promise to upgrade our tech from PS3 quality
I don't think they can play catch up
>Will you launch your own platform
>*Vague non answer answer
Meanwhile Holo already talking openly about having their own platform
>Regarding slander
>We already have a team for that since 2 years ago
And then immediately started a fight with dramatubers and lost while ignoring their talents who got stalked.
>How about VTA?
>Another non answer answer and vague talk about LaUnChiNG mOrE wAvEs
Classic strategy eh, anykara?
>Recruiting already exist livers
>We don't do that anymore
Translation: Those livers knew we only give 2%. So we had to hire from clueless normies
>Regarding inequality in merchs
>Quoted straight from the report: "There might be a bias...."
The most honest they ever answered
>Nijien growth?
>CHINA FIRST and then the rest of countries that understand English
*Vox scream can be heard from afar*
>Regarding older livers following rules?
>"They give alert to avoid flame or drama"
So, ZERO?
>Regarding graduation
>"We will send them off with good will"
Anykara, your pants are on fire.
>We want Riku to be like Yagoo
>Maaaaaaybe?
Yeah, it's always funny how investors want Anykara to be like Holo and vice versa

>>54453836
>He thinks AnyColor didn't pay for all those appearances

>>54494704
Investors want Anycolor to have the brand recognition, ambition and PR of Cover while still having the cutthroat rates and massive profit margins.
On the flip side, investors want Cover to nickle and dime their own talents for bigger profits.

>>54494712
Of course Anycolor doesn't pay for the appearances. It's always, 100%, the conventions that pay Anycolor to have the livers come, because then the conventions, in turn, make money from NijiEN fans coming to the convention to see the livers.
Plus, if Anycolor was the one paying, then they would be the ones advertising the livers going to conventions. But if you look at the NijiEN twitter, they do not advertise about convention appearances. It's only the conventions themselves that advertise EN livers coming.

>>54440425
This shit reads worse than some ESL posts on here

>>54495048
Let see how much their profit is next year after a lot of their talents just up and leave and the remaining keep getting into drama.

This reads like basic stuff and not as interesting as the Hololive one. Most of it could amount to "check the twitter" and read our terms of service.

>>54494704
> don't think they can play catch up
maybe when hololive gets to get lightning working correctly on their models and make models that aren't some uncanny shit that cannot get their arms close to their bodies you can say this.

>>54497581
anon idk if you know that but in 2022 they had more graduations than now and in previous years they had more than 10, and nothing changed in their finances.

>>54497882
They already fixed it anon. You can see it in recent HoloID 3D debut. Especially Reine when she's doing some "suggestive dances"

>>54498573
Their old graduations are from smaller livers. Right now we got heavy hitters either graduating or fired.
Mirei Gundo new persona gained a TON of viewers even when it look like a doodle. Nina is pretty much was considered the best in her gen. Mysta is the 2nd biggest of her gen.
Also the fact that there's leak for another big name leaving (Shu or Selen, or BOTH) make it look bleak for Niji's future.

>>54498883
Gundou was never a heavy hitter in nijisanji nor was Nina. Part of the reason Nina left was because she was a numberfag who felt like she couldn't revitalize her audience.
Also the leak said that one luxiem member would be graduating after Nina and we got one luxiem member. The leaks that talk about selen are shitposts.

>>54499140
Gundou new persona got 6000 live viewers anon.
She IS a heavy hitter.

>>54497823
yeah because he basically avoided answering any of the questions beyond restating what's publicly available

>>54499140
cope

>>54498883
the fuck are you talking about? Lulu, Gibara in 2021 and Mayuzumi in 2022 are all much bigger than anyone graduating in 2023
you ahve to be extremely retarded if you think anyone graduating will impact heavily them, at best kuzuha would do it, anyone else wouldn't

>>54500663
For JP, yeah there's no really any equivalents in terms of heavy hitters leaving compared to previous years. That is of course assuming that no one else plans on leaving by the end of the year, but if they do it'll probably be on a smaller scale.
In terms of NijiEN though it seems like there's a slow exodus in the works, and not of small timers like in ID but actual major ones that translate into blows to morale. It won't be long until it gets absorbed into the main branch at its current rate.

Sounds all pretty nice and can't wait what the future brings. I hope it is more girls from VTA.

>>54499288
a lot of that is debut buff anon. 2 months ago zaion was streaming to 2k and now she barely gets 600. Even if she does have those numbers stick around it doesn't really change how the company is doing.
It also doesn't change that even hololive talked about how ccv was not something they used to measure success. Gundou is inarguably happier but she also gave up a ton of stuff such as 3d performances, free travel, large sponsorship potential and free models and growth. Not to mention that had she actually ended up in legal trouble for anything she did in Japan, the company would have helped her. I wish her the best regardless.

>>54501528
>Implying Niji managements helping their talents when they're in trouble, like stalking

>>54501615
Did not-L*l* say something new? I thought they were helping too much by stopping her activities every time there was a new incident.

>Anycolor market cap back up to 200bil
wtf /vt/ told me this time for sure

>>54501737
Yeah, because keep quiet will stop the stalker right?
I lost Lulu and Era because those management morons can't protect them.

>>54501027
NijiEN is only going to be in any danger from graduations if they lose like 10 or more livers, so an exodus. Losing just 4, with one being a termination and the other a dismissal isnt going to affect much. from what i observe, even if they do have more graduating, it wont be a risk. If they were losing like 8 or more in the same year I would agree

NijiEN fans just not even caring about this CEO lying about the Covid shit…. They just don’t give a fuck even if one of luxiem is leaving. Damn.

>>54474462
>investing more in EN and expanding VTA
You know, those are total bullshit by the fact they cancelled the AR live and suspect activities for VTA.
>AR live was explained by him in the -
How long was the first announcement of the AR live and when are they gonna announce it back again if they thought about investing more in EN? All we got is Krisis who doesn't really add much

>>54440509
>using mostly english

>>54498883
>Nina is pretty much was considered the best in her gen
That's Enna.
>Mysta is the 2nd biggest of her gen
Kek.

>>54501737
>stopping liver activity
no wonder lulu resign. she just want to stream. but even that not allowed by niji lol

>>54499140
her new persona already surpass most of new wave tho. and people said niji jp community hated her kek

>>54504391
drama buff, wait a month for the dramafags to leave

>>54503173
maybe you should grow up? You're so desperate to concernfag this complete non-issue and no one owes you attention for regurgitating some schizo shit

>>54503173
Idk what to tell you but anycolor dont care about anyone from EN leaving. they will try to convince them to stay but if they leave, that wont affect them. Anycolor only real worry is JP, that has been clear for years.

I find it funny how EN fans really think they are the big shit because of luxiem, when in reality to anykara any mid tier JP is more important than luxiem.

>>54501737
>I thought they were helping too much by stopping her activities every time there was a new incident.
I forget who it was about, but it wasn't altruistic on Anykara's part.
The con was this:
>sue for damages
>keep chuuba from streaming
>ensures that the lawsuit for damages against perpetrator sticks
>chuuba "can't stream because of trauma boo hoo give us money"
>company keeps the money
That's what their lawyers would tell them to do.

>>54488513
>what even is this argument about lore. Literally eveyone gets basic lore, its listed in their debut and show in their character design. where this lore thing even come from when its not like theres any obligation to do that except retarded EN who for some reason want to spend money on that? this lore you talk about is something extra.
Zaion exposed that they had to come up with their own lore. She had to hire someone to write hers up.
What sets Hololive apart, other than idols, is its lore and theme for the whole gen. It allows talents and fans a direction to be creative. Without it, they are just generic vtubers.
Nijisanji half-assing this aspect is what is retarded. Just as they half-ass their expansions and wonder why it fails. From IN, ID, KR, and soon to be EN.

>>54494704
Basically this

>>54506527
Niji business model is literally having the talent cover most of the operating costs, and staff taking a big cut for zero work

>>54506527
pretty sure there are indie and non-holo vtubers that aren't niji with little to no lore and are wiping holos so you're full of shit

>>54506808
Other than being lewd, what are you talking about? Who is wiping who?

>>54506527
There is nothing stopping livers for coming up with their own lore themselves. They aren't required to pay an outsider to come up with some retarded novel backstory that won't matter after the first day.

>>54440425
>riku showing up in streams
do the livers even like riku much less want him to appear in streams? Hell do the watchers even care about him? Yagoo was pure coincidence because subaru fucked up his name and it became an endearing meme.

>>54506968
>to come up with some retarded novel backstory that won't matter after the first day.
That thought is why Niji can't expand.
Have you seen all the support Hololive gets from fans just on the lore? The professional quality animations to the many games. Without the lore, they would not exist.

>>54507078
>muh lore
there are several vtubers without it and still succeed. The larping shit isn't necessary

>>54507078
>Lore forced on the talents by the company, which they might not even care about or even like, and may not have any desire to build and grow over time
vs
>Lore the talents come up with themselves (more SOVL), are more comfortable with, and have more desire to build up over time

>>54440425
>the last question
kek, even yagoo says that it's okayu/subaru his favorites, don't know why he is afraid

>>54507179
>>54507261
Of course, talents are able to change their lore. Ame went from Sherlock Holmes to Dr. Strange. Gura abandoned Bloop for shrimps. But they know it's important to embrace the lore. You have kino content of building Atlantis to making the World Tree.
Being Lewd or GFE to the chinks will never last as long as good lore. The talents will respect themselves more for it.

>>54508005
Lore is just the initial flavor text to build off of and let's fans have something to latch on to. It's not necessary but it does help. It's a lot more interesting than "normal person" like nijis do. Even subaru admitted that her duck meme lore has brought her more attention and even sponsorships than her sports manager persona ever did.

>>54504009
Enna is licking Zhang's ass, of course she's at the top.

>>54504504
>Drama buff
Only work for 4chan you moron. Not many JP even use 4chan

>>54508440
Yeah, they use 5ch instead. Same pile of shit with a different coat of paint.

>>54507179
It isn't necessary but it still works
Look at how many comics and artworks regarding Callie being a grim reaper?
The indirect effect of introducing new people to Hololive is massive.
Holocure for example, still have normies playing it until now and slowly pushing them into the rabbit hole.

>>54508955
>pushing them into the rabbit hole
pushing them to be reddit memers supposed to be a good thing? They have no intention of watching vtubers just like a majority of that fanbase

>>54504009
>>54508408
As far as she knows Enna's Chinese herself fucking dumb ass and no she doesn't kiss ass but I guess to a retard with no culture to be proud of her own heritage is wrong. I can tell you don't watch her at all and if you haven't figured it out yet I'm an aloupeep.

>>54440425
They need to double down and ask some of those questions again next meeting and not accept Riku's bullshit answers especially the many graduation that has come, the 2% rumor about merch which I am guessing was the question in the translation was alluding to, rescheduling EN's AR concert and ask them to give definitive proof about it's cancelling was actually a covid issue or something else entirely and so forth.

They can't be that fucking dumb and not see what Riku is doing and his obsession with getting more livers as if he's dealing with machines here and not actual human beings.

Who gives a fuck if Riku doesn't have a yacht but just some boat. As an anon pointed out that ain't the entire fucking point. Some of you niji loving mf's should stop shilling for a evil ass dude who don't give two shits about the talents wanting to push out more and more livers so they can shove more merchandise out the door and make money. I watch kurosanji for the talents not this fucking soul sucking money hungry corporation. These mf's are habitual liars talking about how they're family to the JP branch and they did it to the EN branch too. It's all fake. As much as I dislike Yagoo he's better then that inbred looking CEO in kurosanji. Fuck Riku and the managers in the company.

>>54495318
Go read English literature stupid dumb shit if you're expecting perfect English on the internet especially from a language like English where it was forced upon other ethnicities. So shut the fuck up loser.

>>54509174
Do you expect everyone who fell into the rabbit hole to go to 4chan?
You know this place is a containment area.

>>54499140
>Gundou was never a heavy hitter in nijisanji nor was Nina.
HAHAHAHA. We got a poser here.

>>54510197
you don't get to tell people what to do when you follow a cult that makes shit up about vtubers that they don't watch outside of their cult, simple as

>>54495318
his japanese is bad too
accidentally translated the same thing once and it was fascinating to read
the inability to understand context and who's talking reminded me of machine translators

>>54509387
The investors tend to be old farts who don't understand vtubing.

>>54506726
Basically just like what Amazon does.

>>54510756
Translate it for us so the context makes better sense and that you ain't full of shit. Otherwise shut up nobody else is translating what went on in the meeting.

>>54472070
>he thinks directors get most of their money from salary instead of bonuses

>>54440603
kek, this is why shareholders shouldn't have any input