/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Is this the speculation thread?
Current speculations
>Natsumi Moe (99%)
>Mom0ki (80%)
>GoGoNippon (99%)
>Waabyuu (99%)

>1 month ago
Is teasing something like that on your RM account even allowed by cover?

Who is this Natsumi Moe and what were her achievements?

>>54434181
she was one of the first envtubers but that's it, outside of that she has no remarkable talent as an entertainer

>>54434172
Yes.
>>54434181
Refer to >>54423041
If you want it in harsher words, literally nothing. Old guard that remained 2view while those around her rose to 3 and 4view.

Schizo.

>>54434041
If it's her, her voice doesn't fit at all. Retarded choice.

>>54434219
>>54434228
The Fauna of Advent then?

>>54434330
If the whole prude thing israel then probably closer to the Kronii.

>>54434330
she's nothing like fauna in any metric.

>>54434377
Kronii is a great singer tho... Sometimes

>>54434041
She unironically sounds like a generic NijiEN member.

>>54434041
So no Beryl? Fuck man the twins are the only promising ones. Might be over before it started

>>54434576
Beryl was speculated to be Nerissa alongside Mom0ki but the moment Nerissa mentioned she ate meat (Something Beryl does not) /vsinger/ thread was able to debunk it.

>>54434576
Beryl would have made the twins into triplets, complete kino. Sadly, that's not the timeline we live in.

>>54434092
oof
Post honeymoon is going to be bad.

>>54434665
>>54435160
Fuck. Beryl seems like a perfect fit for HL. Is that m0moki chick a safe pick? Don’t know anything about her

>>54434576
Where have you been the past two days? None of them acts even remotely like Beryl (or her PL)

>>54434041
sheeeit. I hope you're wrong because I didn't like her voice

>>54435555
You decide. (Hint, if you follow the /vt/ doctrine on how a female vtuber should behave, you're not going to like her unless she pulls a Mumei which is less likely)
>>54413120

>>54435567
Shiori is 99% correct based on evidence alone.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
>>54423041
>>54424274
>>54425051
Said evidence here.

>>54435602
All that’s left now is to pray that Shiori and Nerissa turn into Mumei/Fauna and not Mori/Kronii

>>54434172
No. Aloe was terminated for doing the same thing

>>54435717
You have statistically less chance of the former happening due to personality alone.

>>54434092
So every single one of them is going to be a massive disappointment and this gen is going to flop harder than Iluna/Xsoleil or Tempus 2, got it

>>54434092
>no gen has been just vtubers before
>every time we've speculated and said they will all be vtubers we've been wrong
>but this time I'm right because one time they used a similar design, mouth, shape, have similar eyes, looked to the right the same way, was revealed to me in a dream
How many times do you have to learn this lesson? You guys have always been wrong unless it's someone obvious like gura or the twins.

>>54436888
You haven't even watched them yet

>>54437021
mom0ki is an outsider who hardly streamed before deleting her persona

>>54434092
the only confirmed is GGN, the rest is just spam this retarded schizo is trying to desperately push

>>54437021
Anon, speculators were 4/5 right for Council. 3/4 right for Tempus1 and 4/4 right for Tempus2.
It's 100% possible that we're wrong for all 3 but it's VERY fucking hard to be wrong about them given the things that have been gathered in the past 48 hours.
And no it's not just le hekkin' tweet. There are actual friends of RM's involved for oreo hair and loli.

>>54437119
In the past 48 hours there's been more and more evidence that points to those listed as 99% being correct than not.
Only Nerissa is still up for debate.

>>54437091
mom0ki just didn't care for being a vtuber and only seemed to do it because it was trendy. A crying shame.

>>54434092
Wait what happened to Caitlyn Myers and Beryl?

>>54434377
prude is a rrat see this tweet here
https://twitter.com/Vtuber_Moe/status/1555222724259323906?s=20

>>54437091
>IT-IT WAS REVEALED TO ME IN A DREAM!!!!
Stop doing this to yourself. You don't know a big secret. You don't have some inner power. You're just autistic.
>>54437129
WHAT? No they fucking weren't lmao! Gura was the only one. No one had a clue who the others were. Council was almost all wrong. People still lost their shit when Sana and bae were Australian.
So many new fags such as yourself. It's like the vtuber version of election tourists.

>>54437178
Beryl crossed off due to Beryl being a vegetarian and Nerissa eats meat.
Mom0ki / Caitlyn myers is still there but besides tweets being similar, and the duet thing, there's not much else to go on.

>>54437178
Nerissa eats meat, Beryl does not. Nerissa also used slang from the US Midwest, mom0ki is a Midwesterner.

>>54437224
+ Nerissa posted midwest colloquialism and mom0ki is also from the midwest

>>54437199
Do I seriously have to link every piece of evidence to convince you? Or are you always going to call it cope until debut hour?

>>54437129
NTA but who was the wrong one for council?

>>54437262
Do it. I dare you.
If it didn't get at least 5 (you)s that agreed then it was some random ramblings.

>>54437262
>the evidence - SHE SAID OPE AND THIS VTUBER GEADUATED WHI OS FROM THE MIDWEST IT WAS REVEALED TO ME IN A DREEEWAAMMM!!!!
Bro just take your meds keep your autism in check. One day you're going to talk.like this to someone in real life and get your teeth rattled. Sit down. Know your place.

>>54437287
Fauna.

>>54437224
Mom0ki / Caitlyn myers is the same person?

>>54435717
Please be menhera... please

I haven't followed everyone else, but Shiori is pretty much 90% confirmed. I would be extremely surprised if it turns out she's someone else.

>>54437364
Oh boy. Was the reason why everyone was seething because their expectations was someone much better? Not to take away from current Fauna of course.

>>54437262
>NOO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THEY ARE PERSONALLY SENDING ME SECRET MESSAGES IN THEIR POSTS TO TELL ME THEIR PAST LIVEEESS!!! ONLY I CAN DECIPHER IT WITH MY DREAM POWERS! THEY ARE TRYING TO TELL ME WHO THEY WERE AND I ONOW THE SECRET IM SPECIAL!!!

>>54437389
Yes. Google "mom0ki"

>>54437417
Nah, it was because of her PL stuff. Fun fact, Beryl was who was originally speculated to be fauna.

>>54437541
lol, I wonder if the same thing with happen for EN4 eventually
>IT'S BERYL RIGHT? MUST BE, THIS TIME FOR SURE

without the sisters this gen seems pretty mid

>>54437531
Actually based. I love her covers. Let's fucking goo.

>>54437320
>>54437325
>>54437498
Sigh, fine.
Shiori = Moe
>>54403739
>>54424274
>>54424719
>>54425051
Bijou
>>54430054
>>54430124
>>54430761
Nerissa
I already admitted this one is probably going to be wrong but
>>54413120
>>54436403
>>54436493
Twins we've already established is likely correct.
And fuck no to the 5 (you)'s thing.

>>54437681 (me)
Forgot something for Nerissa >>54436790

>>54437602
Only if she doesn't show up in Phase Gen 3, then it'll be another time loop kek

To be fair, she's one of the only western bilingual chuubas who is a former idol that fits Holo's culture and who knew how to sing, who's graduations/hiatuses lined up even in the past. I remember speculation of her indie persona being in EN3 when she announced her hiatus in Fall 2022 only for us to get two homo gens.

>>54437681
I kneel...

>>54437681
Bro. I was asking for proof of this.
>WHAT? No they fucking weren't lmao! Gura was the only one. No one had a clue who the others were. Council was almost all wrong.

>>54437822
You want someone to spoonfeed you shit from years ago? Do your reps yourself buddy. People looked at graduated chuubas and nepohires all the same and figured it out from contextual clues such as Kiara being an Austrian idol and Mori being a underworld themed rapper.

why are people disappointed rock might be waabyuu? she's the only unknown for me.

>>54438083
Maybe they wanted her to be someone more high-profile.

>>54438083
From what I read, she's nothing special, just a cunny voice.

>>54438083
Because she was pretty generic.

The hype has been brutally murdered. Other than the dogs, still excited for them.

>>54434041
This seems pretty cut and dry, yeah. Well... At least I have the twins to look forward to, instead.

>>54437822
I'm kinda tired to look for it but
>Kronii's was given away because her friend followed her and had art of her ready almost immediately
>Sana gave hers away by being a friend of Ina and drew art of herself
>Bae I don't actually remember and I'm archive diving for it
>Mumei was probably the easiest one cuz of the relationships thing
>People guessed hana flores for Fauna.

>>54438083
There's nothing wrong with it but there's nothing nice about it.
She's mid / average, which is better than bad, but most anons probably wanted "good"

>>54438066
So you can't, got it

>>54438083
She tweets like a NijiEN liver would and seems very steeped in the Twitch indie vtubing scene

>>54434092
man if those speculations are right I'll only watch EN3 for Ravencroft karaoke
how did Hololive get a lineup worse than small corpos? And that's their first gen after 2 years

>>54438888
It's been said before but
>Western vtuber scene has basically been drained of most talent
>To get any real talent now you either have to scrape the bottom of the barrel (Cover did this)
>Or you have to get Jap ESLs (Niji did this)
>Or you have to get people that weren't vtubers / streamers before (High gamble)

>>54438925
More like the talented indies want to continue being indie.

>>54438925
I wonder if someone from EN3 was scouted early on, but got kept on hold for months/over a year because they needed to find the rest.

>>54438925
idolEN debuted a new gen just over 1 month ago and they had better lineup than this speculation
really doesn't help your argument that the scene has been drained of talent

>>54439036
That was probably the twins if anything.

>>54438925
Waiting two years caused most holo hopefulls to jump to small corpos. Prism's frog would have been a great fit for holo, few other gems got scooped up too.

>>54439050
I did say most, anon.
The twins I find quite a good pick compared to the other 3.
But besides the twins and Beryl, I could not give you another indie name that's looking to join a corpo, that's actually good / fit for Hololive.

>>54435719
You're retarded and have no idea what you're talking about

>>54439102
indie Nina said she wants to join a corpo but I'm not sure if she'd try for Holo.

>>54438925
Sounds plausible, maybe that's why it took so long for EN3 to come out as the applicants were so sub-par that Cover was delaying in hopes of getting better ones with time

>>54439092
>loves anime and idols
>decent singer and trying her best to improve
>very dedicated to playing her character
>and she's super cute
Ami would have been a good holo, shame that she got stuck with a 2view corpo

>>54438925
Holo EN scouts for reliability and stability as well, it necessarily the "best". Smaller corpo takes more risk (for better or worse) in their scouting. Holo probably look for talents who have connections who vouch for them in Holo.

>>54434092
>99%
Please list all clues!

>>54439196
Already did.
>>54437681

>>54439191
I mean not necessarily the best.

>existing holoEN fans ignore EN3 because it isn't what they're used to
>small corpo and indie fans quickly acquiesce to EN3 because all five of them are pretty typical vtubers just now with a high budget behind them
Looks like Cover is pulling sort of a blue ocean strategy for themselves. Pulling a fanbase of outsiders will serve to grow the hololive fanbase as a whole. And existing holoEN fans will adjust to them in time, due to the power of the brand.

>>54434041
they are both ina

>>54439191
>>54439220
Obviously Hololive doesn't scout for the best because they hired Mori, Kiara, Bae and Sana within their only two EN gens

>>54439255
Small corpo and indie fans are mostly former Holo fans that left because they got bored, you're not going to get them back with mid picks.

>>54439261
Friend.

>>54439272
replace bae with kronii
bae is the most idol-like in the entirety of council and kronii got hard carried by her model while being a depressive hack who clearly hates streaming

>>54439272
including bae in a list of unlikable failures seems like you don't actually watch her, you're just mad she said something one time you didn't like. did you expect nobody here would call you out on this? this isn't reddit where every sub is a wagon-circling hivemind. go back there.

>>54434041
>another ESL Asian bitch

>>54439332
Kronii's corporate mandated estrogen regimen is taking effect, she's improving at a steady pace and will not go against the company.

>>54437287
>>54437364
Isn't that Bae? I remember the leading candidate being a Russian woman, kyoresu or something.

>>54439385
Maybe Gura can knock sense into her. Not getting my hopes up.

>>54439448
Yes, it was Bea. No one was paying attention to MyHolo back then.

>>54439485
Mori has been spanked, the corrupting influence from Stars has been eliminated, her tits are free and she's trying various different types of fan service.
I think she's sincerely making an effort to improve and she IS on good terms with Gura so it's quite possible she's getting advice from there too.

>>54439272
Those 4 were picked before the pool got really big. Even if I don't like Mori, I have to admit that she's a big success for Holo. Kiara and Bae are solid. Sana got in due to Ina obviously, but Holo weigh the recommendation of someone within their circle a lot. That's just how it is.
I don't think Holo is really scrapping the bottom of the barrel. They are just unwilling to take in relatively unknown people without some "trusted" references.
As I said, if you want to see really dark horse talents being scouted and ended up fairly good, you have to look at the small corpo. Small corpo's take more risk in scouting

>>54434041
With all the whores that go to music colleges there should be at least 1 trained female vocalist that is a weeb, likes idols and is white
Fucking holoen scouting man, you always get disappointed

>>54439382
Boy I sure love women who speak lispy ESL English, and Canadians!!

>>54439191
>Holo EN scouts for reliability and stability
Now I want a Debian vtuber

>>54439590
That's like... half of phase connect

>>54439601
>hardened debian tuber
would she be covered in chitin?

>>54439601
>Full hag who can be a bit of a boomer but is competent at games and tech
Meanwhile Ubuntu would be a bipolar zoomer.

>>54439632
I can't understand a damn word Remi says.

>>54439703
That's half of her shtick though.

how can they surpass Pare Pare Pare for 5th Fes
this song is kino

is over...

>>54439703
That's why I love her.

>>54434041
It's not even the same pattern, are you people insane?

>>54439632
Having real English speakers is what makes HoloEN special in my opinion. Asian women just have a lot of audible and personality quirks that makes them less likeable, just compare Pomu to the rest of Niji"EN." She might be a bitch, but she isn't a second generation Asian immigrant doing ASMR while barely holding back her utter disdain level bitch.
I miss Eien...

>>54439854
Anon...>>54437681
It's not healthy to cope. Especially when her friend soft confirmed it anyway.

>>54439555
I guess the poor selling merch really was a wake up call for management to step in.

I think Kawaii has the least amount of Asian ESL (though I do wish they have some more jp esl, they are usually great) with only Isla (SEA) and Lua being ones among the corpo
Maybe jewcorp does as well but I don't check out jew Corp that much. Vreverie maybe? But they are a bit zoom zoom zoomer for my taste.
>>54439703
She's not that bad. Wait until you hear lofi (Penelope wiseman) from VNU or Meno from Prism. They are like 90% incomprehensible for me.

>>54440133
Opps meant to quote
>>54439855

>>54438083
She has off putting NijiEN-tier humor and tweeting style

It's afraid thread. Niji, small corpos and indies are finish.

It's afraid thread. I don't think no one can't touch hololive after this.

>>54440133
Idol has zero Asia chuubas so they want one

>>54440364
There's a couple koreans in idol. Though the thread ignores one of them.

>>54440328
>it's impossible to feel disappointed that cover didn't get better recruits like Beryl and settled for mom0ki or moe
Not now niji falseflag

I'm still not entirely sold on Shiori being Moe, their image editing styles and skills are quite different from what I've seen.
If you compare how they painted the nails on these images, Moe only used a brush while Shiori did a proper color swap.
https://twitter.com/Vtuber_Moe/status/1662941321139568640
https://twitter.com/shiorinovella/status/1684617000872468483

Shiori was also careful to merge both her character's and the ice cream's layers before applying the shadow, while Moe applied her very characteristic white border to both her character and the asset separately.

I'm in a weird sleep tired state right now, from what I make of this how fluent is their JP, I know the doggos will be the literal link, but curious.

>>54440697
>sources used assets immediately
fuck it's actually her

>>54440697
The fact that she's sourcing her assets is convincing me they're the same more than not anon.
There's also an entire video from Moe to explain as well as Moe's vtuber friend immediately following and creating a doll of Shiori.

>>54440566
Phasecuck...

>>54440868
This is the best holoen could scrounge up in 2 years. Imagine them just rolling up to the best music colleges to actually scout good vocalists and showing them what being an anime girl on youtube pays. They would have a super idol group in days that would mog holojp

>>54441012
Maybe if we were still in the video era of 2018.
This is the streaming era.

>>54441012
That's a fucking terrible method. Do you want to a bunch of college music whores who have 0 streaming ability and charisma?

>>54440984
Half life 3 is real.

>>54434041
>It's fucking her
Yeah, me. I'm fucking her.

>>54439138
She definitely has the connections.

>>54439375
How insane do you have to be to call Mori a failure?

>>54441077
>>54441097
Hololive is down prioritizing streaming and will continue to do so if you have been paying attention on their shareholder meetings. Music + strong individual brand pays a lot more than farming supas.
And if you have hung around jazz students they are incredibly charismatic and fun to be around. Classical is full of chinks, koreans and other mystery meat asians that are drier than the sahara desert

>>54438925
Yeah at this point the barrel of western vtubers for recruitment is dry. Next best bet is pretty much diving through western utaites/ translated vocaloid cover artists, fleshtubers/ normal streamers, and non-facecam video creators.

>>54441202
>if you have hung around jazz students they are incredibly charismatic and fun to be around.
Where the heck do you think we are

So Bijou is Ina's nepo hire right?

>>54441208
There's nothing wrong with that. It can difficult to find western vtuber without some baggage in their indie days. Even in Holo jp, some of their best and most successful members were not vtubers before hololive.
I've seen corpo recruitment with little to no vtubing experience or even little streaming experience who get in and do quite well after some time.

>>54440697
or maybe, like always occur, girls helped each other on preparing for debut, so she learned or someone helped her doing things better...

>>54441208
>>54441463
I know the response to this is gonna be "muh males" but that was basically Axel.
Recruited an utaite with very little streaming experience and had a rough start then managed to get the ball rolling after a while.

Lol another thread of small corpos/indies afraid of hololive and desperately shilling themselves one last time.

>>54441319
The one little girl. Shame it had to be this way,

>>54441573
That is one desperate leech, holy shit

>>54438925
all the best western vtubers are on twitch. youtube is trash.

>>54441734
RORU
UMAO
EVEN

>>54441734
The best at what? Sucking cock?

>>54436888
shut the fuck up, dont act like myth wasnt WAY worse. Still they became the best thing to happend to EN vtubing, so shut the fuck up.

>>54434092
>Waabyuu (99%)
This sounds like I'm watching a gura clone.

>>54441822
Eh, worse voice but better taste in pretty much everything

>>54439272
>>54439332
>>54439385
>>54439485
>>54439555
>>54440090
Retards.

>>54439375
RUMAO, the single viewer the screeching rat has left posts on /vt/?

>>54441193
A /vt/ poster.

>>54441193
Some people are mentally ill enough to think "doesn't do GFE ASMR ear licking" = financial failure around here

>>54440868
Isn't this is a common thing among vtubers? If you check the retweets of the asset, there were 2 other that did the same, a reply to the original tweet with just the link and nothing else, while Moe added the message "PNG Asset:".

>>54440984
The Hololive account that listed their twitter accounts has them in the same order as shown in his following list and he could very well be making the dolls by their debut order. He making these would be no different to other artists doing fan art of the current trending topic.

>>54442281
Pending followed shiori first and only followed the others hours later.
This is basically the same as that friend of Kronii who followed and had art of Kronii ready almost immediately.

>>54442408
unverifiable

I thought this was shioris general? What the fuck happened here?

>>54442782
What? This isn't a general it's a doxx post. Are you thick?

>>54442068
>>54442136
Both good points.

I have a question for you fags, which one of them plays games?
Like real games, not just nintendo fotm garbage

>>54444213
Literally none.

>>54443470
I'm gonna post it here because like 2-3 of the other threads discussing the potential new girls are filled with unironic "if she doesn't collab with males then I don't need good content!!" posting.
I'm sure Moe is a fine person. Inoffensive, milquetoast, even. But that doesn't go far for keeping people interested past the first month when the novelty of the model wears off and you have to fall back on personality. Maybe I'll be surprised, but I'm not really getting much hope having not gone through an entire 5+ years of content library to scan for interesting material.

I watch Fauna because she's weird and has a somewhat sarcastic sense of humor, not because I like ASMR or her uguu ass voice. I like Mumei because she is a strange specimen of a person doing weird things with her content. I like Bae because she's genuinely retarded and thinks Mermaids are real and her bilingualism allows her to do a variety of content.

At the end of the day, depth of personality matters more than the model, and more than skills on paper. Blogpost end.

>>54434092
>Mom0ki
Then it is actually fucking over for the unibros lmao. Expect one of the first collabs to be with the homos and for Ike to show up on her bday call-ins kek

>>54437681
What a fucking schizo. I'm going to have to screenshot this when it turns out you're a retard and wrong lmao.

>>54444213
Bijou
Bijou

>>54444678
NTA but I hope he is wrong. The dogs seem positive. The loli seems "ok". Shiori seems painfully average. Nerissa's seems like the yabber here. That's basically my inverse order of "hoping it's not her".

>>54438272
what was the relationship thing with mumei?

>>54435635
>Doesn't like action games
>Doesn't like lewd
>Not going in as an idol or singer
Dead in the fucking water, why did she even look at vtubing in the first place?

>>54444331
grim.
>>54444730
redeemed.

>>54445344
She was a first mover. But like someone posted in another thread, all of the people surrounding her became 4views while she languished. Aside from some ASMR videos, I don't think she has anything particularly notable about her. She dropped her old channel 2 years ago to put out incredibly mediocre content, too.
Unless she's feeling like she can shape up her content with Holo bucks and budget, this is a bad case of seeing a dead 400k sub channel and going for it, without noticing the 3k views per video.

>>54445344
>>Doesn't like lewd
not true
https://twitter.com/Vtuber_Moe/status/1555222724259323906?s=20

>>54434432
get your ears checked

>>54446388
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PwKsasBlK4
She is competent, but she only shines in songs that fit her voice and that she has practiced a lot.

>>54434092
Wow, so the only semi-interesting ones will be GGN. This gen will help me appreciate Council much more if this turns out to be accurate.

I'm going to laugh at this thread when advent blow up.2 more days.

>>54444825
There's literally no evidence. This was the same shit for myth and council. Don't believe the
>we got everyone right
bullshit because it's not true. I was there for both gens debuts and nearly everyone got it wrong. For one, none of the gens have been made up of exclusively ex vtubers. It would be strange if it was the case this time. I think the twins are confirmed but the rest is just serious schizo level posting from artists who want to think they're in on a big secret. Just like retards who think the alien shit is real.

>>54444678
I collected all this and I hope I'm wrong.
Imagine settling for someone that stayed a 2view for years while everyone else around her became a 4view. I hope literally anyone else interesting is Shiori but all the current evidence collected points to "Lol no that's her"

watching a handful of schizos spam the most paper-thiin "evidence" i've ever seen is pretty amusing. remember when this place was 100% convinced that ky0resu was in myth and then council?

sometimes, i wonder if some of you are simply jealous that others are becoming moderately successful in life while you aren't

>>54447742
So do I grudge post you when the ggn twins are the doggos or?

>>54447817
they're literally the only ones who you could make a blind guess on and that's only because the twin gimmick narrows it down so much.

>>54447294
>There's literally no evidence.
Not true, but I hope you're right and it's merely pure coincidence from whatever's been noted about Nerissa and that the eye pattern asset is common enough that they'd both use it unknowingly.

>>54447190
At this point i trust KWF more lol

>>54447922
No one can even link the art that got drawn for their debuts to anyone. That alone should tell you that you're wrong about at least one of them.

>>54448197
It'd be interesting if Nerissa or Shiori drew it and they're were an artsy 2view or non-streamer beforehand and it nullified the rats about either of them.
Or it's just commissioned artwork.

>>54448197
i mean could've been a commission

>>54448461
>>54448438
other than the fact that myth and council members both drew for their debuts, yes it could be a commission.

>>54448197
that's just a commission

>>54448565
see
>>54448547
funny how you're quick to deny evidence with no proof to the contrary when it doesn't line up with your retardation

>>54448547
>>54448634
It's not like they drew the animated openings for themselves too. EN3 is having an actual budget behind it, so a commission is slightly more likely. But, there's no credit for it yet, so maybe you're right?

>>54447294
Screenshot this, twins and the rock are going to be right, which means we predicted more than a half correctly. Not sure about the others.

>>54446333
>girls never play up the lewd act only to backpedal, shame and bitch about it later

>>54448967
even if it isn't them I expected the defective retards who are totally real vtuber fans and not people leaking from kiwi to track down who drew that, but not a peep yet.
Instead I get "woah eyeballs bro it all connects"

>>54449007
>We
And the only reason you might be correct on even one is because the twin gimmick narrows it down so much.

>>54449341
True, but 3/5 correct is still good

>>54448197
Those are some ugly eyelids. They look diseased.

>>54449053
The tweet is from almost a year ago. It doesn't match the other anon narrative about how she hated the lewd design.

>>54434041
Lool so this is why /vt/ has been begging for EN3, fresh blood to spam drama over

>>54434041
sooooo she's a whore?

can't wait until they're a bunch of literally whos and suddenly everyone pretends like they were huge fans.

>>54450449
She's a "literally who're you"

>>54438925
>>Or you have to get people that weren't vtubers / streamers before (High gamble)
both cover and niji did this with Magni and Yugo so
>High Gamble
is the most accurate shit you could call this option

>>54445344
>why did she even look at vtubing in the first place?
The idea trendy easy views and money

>>54444530
Idk why you guys can't get that shit is just different once you actually get into Holo. When you're a languishing indie you do have to go out and collab with big people it's just how it works
Remember when Ren from NijiEN straight up @ed Mumei on twitter because of their connection? Remember how that worked out for him?

>>54451570
>Magni and Yugo
They definitely weren't vtubers but Magni was definitely a streamer before, or a content creator.

>>54434092
qrd on each of them. I don't know anything outside Hololive

>>54452264
>>54423041 for Shiori
>>54413120 for Nerissa
I know next to nothing about waabyuu or the GGN twins but most anons seem to love the latter.

>>54437417
In Fauna's case, in classic Fauna fashion, she didn't really allude to graduation or leaving or anything. Some people thought her cat had died or something like that and she just gave up on vtubing, that's why not many people guessed her

>>54452340
>nijisister larp post about her being a prude
Lol, lmao even.

>>54452415
Wow nijis are fucking pathetic. I didn't even care but the fact they pushed that narrative so hard and indogs and seanigs bit into it...

>>54452415
One tweet doesn't exactly mean she wasn't unhappy with how the model looked. What was the redesign like?

>>54452415
>>54452490
>Larping so good that they're a paypig >>54425132

>>54452723
That tweet is after her re-design.

>>54452723
And your schizo headcanon rrat means nothing at all.

>>54452723
see >>54450395

Who to believe, anons that accept someone like Moe, or the anon that donated to Moe.

>>54452742
His original post didn't even call her a prude. Just that she said she hated one model at one point, clearly not enough to not make that tweet though. If anything he's just concernposting out of caution because of what happened to kronii. The thing is that as long as Shiori doesn't literally hide her tits behind a fucking pillow like kronii did that one time, it doesn't even matter. So being willing to post a lewd tweet like that at all is confirmation things are going to be fine

All this shit is irrelevant anyway, whether you're right or wrong. Holo is their chance to do something big and be noticed. You might as well toss out whatever trash you find about a PL.

>>54453150
Remember that time Kronii did ringfit in the kimono, kem

>>54441796
Not even

maybe the best at pretending to suck cock

>>54434092
They're all safe picks at least, we won't get a yab

>>54434092
More importantly, which of them are gachikoi/idolchad/cgdct friendly?
GGN are a given

>>54434041
If it is, then rejoice. She's really creative and passionate about voice acting. That means you'll get a totally different personality from Natsumi Moe.

>>54454747
Impossible to tell. The supposed cgdct friendly ENs were not always that way pre-Holo.

>>54454896
You're right I guess, now that I think about it.
At least we know 2/5 are locked in for cgdct with the twins

what i remember about Moe back then is she was quite a shitposter.
but it around Kizuna Ai era so I don't really know much about her after 2019

>>54454855
what if she voice acts so well we dont even know it's her...

>>54455710
All the better, honestly

>>54454855
Can she do a deeper voice? All the clips I see if her are that nasally nerdy voice

NGL, I don't know why when i saw Shiori's first tweet (the one with the censor bar on the eyes), my hunch told me it Moe.

Same shit threads as when Council was debuting.

So Moe would be "don't lewd me, I don't like being sexualized" and also someone who collabs with guys and ecelebs? That's what I take from these posts
That doesn't sound very amazing

>>54455872
https://youtu.be/w03DrX0X6-Y?t=177
At around 3:00 you can hear her natural voice.

>>54434092
All garbage besides GGN.

Someone please tell me if this Natsume Moe’s real voice will fit the Shiori model, or at least is competent ennough to change her voice to fit? - nothing else matters to me.

>someone who has been doing it since before holoEN even existed us a bad thing
Yeah, I'll take that over someone who only started once HoloEN blew up

>>54456270
see
>>54456018
you can hear it at 3:00

>>54456321
thats a pretty decent point that I will keep in mind. Imagine getting someone who got into vtubing after getting inspired by Luxiem.

>>54456387
funny enough i did end up liking fauna and mumei the best of their gen, but i think the most disappointing thing about council debuts is no one had a normalish voice. i don't mind moeblob voices, but there was two moeblob voices, two fucking australians, and then husky balanced it out but it ended up being kronii

I think Moe is a bit menhera, not the usual type of menhera though but still menhera.

>the dogs are obvious
>Bijou seems pretty clear too
>the rest is just the most paper thin nothing ass fucking grasps humanly possible to try and start yab drama before they've even debuted
>someone unironically claiming this place as well as /jp/ predicted Myth and council super well
I was there for both debuts in the threads. Nobody guessed any of the myth members outside Gura and she put a fucking reference to her RM channel in her debut thumbnail.
Same for Council. People got super lucky with Kronii due to her friend situation but otherwise people were throwing haymakers everywhere. Nijifags and Holofags even managed to mix up Petra/Mumei on who would be who if that tells you anything.

>>54457323
PL not RM

Why are newfags who weren't even on /vt/ or /jp/ during Myth and Council debut claiming they "guessed almost all of them perfectly" like that's just factually incorrect. Myth was made up of the most random unguessable people on the planet outside Gura and it was pretty similar for Council.

>>54457323
again, who fucking cares. what they do in holo is the important part.

>>54457323
>>54457510
People had very little clues on who was who until their actual debuts. This applies to both Myth/Council. Shit it even applies to Tempiss. We won't actually be able to tell who any of EN3 is until their debuts outside the doggos and im not even fully sold on them either. Shit for all we know fucking one Nerissa is actually Beryl and her talking about eating meat was just in character shit. We just don't know.

>>54457726
You are an actual retard if you don't think the dogs are ggnl.

>>54457778
All the "proof" is pure rough guesses using anecdotal evidence at best. It means nothing. People were 100% guaranteed on who they thought Mumei was and both Niji and Holo fans managed to be both wrong

I. for one, dislike Moe simply because her personality comes off as a little bitchy and a jealous type.
Back when Project Melody was the hot maymay, some people accused her of being Melody as a joke.
At first she laughed, but then she suddenly done a 180 and straight up started banning people.
I had never really watched her much before that because I hated Eilene and Eilene adjacent stuff, but I decided to try her out and not hold that chucklefuck as reason to not watch her.
I quickly grew out of her because of her personality.
She'll fit right in at Hololive. Half the company are jealous types and there's very openly vocal bitchy types and control freaks.
Hope it helps her out at least, I heard she had some money issues relating to family.

>>54457588
This.
No unicorn would have touched Gura pre debut now she's their savior

>>54457960
You are assuming its Moe off the thinnest of "evidence" possibly ever. I need you to understand that. Yubigate had more "evidence" than this rrat does.

>>54457726
>the doggos
Go back

>>54457726
do we know if Beryl was actually vegetarian or if it was a character thing?

>>54456774
I was definitely initially disappointed by Moe's voice compared to all the coomer menhera goth expectations, but maybe there's hope for her after all.
Think about it...who else in the weeb space has played through an entire guro hentai VN and given a proper ranking of all its endings (without playing up up how traumatizing it is like sydsnap)? Definitely not Holo friendly content, but I'll take this as a sign that she can definitely be more menhera and enjoy darker content too, even if it gets primarily repressed like Mumei.
https://youtu.be/XdBu4isTdlI

>>54457960
If anything, maybe being jealous and bitchy is the exact type of menhera-type traits that would redeem her in the eyes of most of this board, compared to being a completely plain/boring milquetoast option which everyone is disappointed about.

its going to be so funny when it turns out nobody but the fucking twins are who people think and everyone else is just total randoms who've never touched a vtuber model before like with Myth.

>Beryl is somehow dismissed as a possibility entirely because of a dumb soup joke that was done in character
That is one of the weakest ways of disproving a potential talent I've ever seen guys. Like cmon on now.

>>54458600
jealous bitch menhera is exactly what i want

>>54458175
Nothing conclusive, but in her member's opening stream (4 months ago) she said a few things about chicken:

https://www.youtube.com/live/VuulcWnGTfE?feature=share&t=5795
> Wait, why? Is it good for your throat? To eat chicken?

https://www.youtube.com/live/VuulcWnGTfE?feature=share&t=5827
> Chicken noodle soup!
> You know what I used to do? I used to get the Lipton chicken noodle soup ... I haven't had that for a long time though

https://www.youtube.com/live/VuulcWnGTfE?feature=share&t=5905
> Maybe I'll get some chicken then, rawr! (she then mentions maybe going to KFC in japanese)

If she did start eating chicken, I don't know, but in her graduation stream, she mentioned curry chicken then made eating noises:
https://www.youtube.com/live/CoJQbWpr4hA?feature=share&t=13341

>>54458092
Oh I'm not saying it is or isn't her.
Also, while I'm at it, I actually prefer her newer model. It's cute as fuck, yo.

>>54459599
I mean this almost makes her a better potential target than Mom0ki no? Beryl speaks japanese and is an idolfag which instantly makes her a high priority target for Cover. She also straight up said in her graduation stream she was basically going to a big vtuber company.

So why are people doomposting if isn't Beryl? We now factually know that EN audition that went up about a month ago was for EN4. This actually lines up perfectly with Beryl who just recently graduated herself. So she should be an actual guaranteed shoe in for EN4.

>>54459599
This actually makes me more convinced its Beryl than it does anything else.

>>54459599
What the fuck you actually came with timestamps, I kneel at your cope!

Knower here. Literally every guess so far has been wrong.

See you tomorrow.

>>54459436
Beryls handwriting is also completely different

>>54434092
Thats grim as fuck.
Best is GGN girls.
Fucking fishman snagged Beryl..

>>54459436
>done in character
She plays a character that likes soup with meat in it? Lmfao, holy cope

>>54459806
>She also straight up said in her graduation stream she was basically going to a big vtuber company
Yeah, Phase.

>>54460718
>Phase
>big

>>54460978
Literally bigger than NijiEN and Homostars at this point.

>>54458883
Gura and I think Ina were indies for a bit

>>54458883
Insane cope. The dogs, Shiori, and Bijou are practically confirmed at this point.

I don't see how this is such a big deal, even if speculations end up being correct. Most holos changed a lot if you trace back their development.
I guess there's nothing better to talk about?

>>54459903
EN4. So two years? Don't believe it.

>>54458883
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into anon. Schizos cannot be cured.

>>54458883
Gura, Ina, Ame were familiar with (janky) vtuber setups.

>>54461357
Except that's not true. While their content might have changed, their personalities remained mostly the same.

>>54462137
Very untrue for gura.
She changed a lot.

>>54462369
Gura is different... who knows what changed in her personal life after becoming extremely wealthy.

>hating on natsumi
i fucking hate all of you, shes the sweetest and creative out of the ogs.

Don't care, I have Moe's MMD model ready. I will make Moe and Shiori have sex with each other while dancing to Phut Hon.

>>54458883
>>54457726
>>54457510
This time, it's going to be different. See you in the debut streams.

I mean, if you really wanna split hairs about this whole past RM thing.
/vt/ guessed 3/4 of Tempus correctly only getting Axel wrong and thinking he was going to be who Ren ended up being in NijiEN due to the aussie thing.

>>54457510
>>54458883
Myth was guessed 5 for 5 before debut tho

>>54463684
4/5. Only JOPs got Kiara before debut.

>>54434041
>that VR chat voice
I hate EN so much.

>>54460412
FUCK PLS BE REAL

>>54464819
im gonna grudgepost that guy

>>54465332
Might as well grudgepost "Suisei is a Romanov princess" posters.

>>54464819
>>54465332
Found that anon >>/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=42vnQxUUS6c

All these rrats are weak. Give me your fattest, furriest, smelliest rrats.

>>54462804
She's as sweet as a normal, average non menhera is. The only reason she's even remotely relevant is because she was the first to convince Eilene to give her the model.

>>54465536
Here's the biggest rrat.
There is no EN3 and it's a giant hoax. The EN letters will fade and reveal they're PH instead.

>>54436888
The Go Go Nippon twins were great though

>>54441803
Myth had
>a soundclown rapper
>a lolcow
>an established artist
>a drunkard memetuber who collabed with men on the regular
>a twitch 2view
and they turned out fine. Can't really judge them on their past lives.

>>54434092
gogo nippon is super obvious but how were the other ones arrived at?

>>54466277
Refer to my autistic list.
>>54437681

>>54464819
I got to see the thread before it was nuked in less than a minute
She definitely menhera but didn't know about the piano and singing, we might get a pleasant surprise

>>54466248
>"A lolcow"
Such a clumsy way to out yourself as a retard

>>54466248
>they turned out fine
And here is your issue.

>>54466535
It's bullshit. Somebody has been posting that account since before Council, trying to convince people its Mumei, then Kronii, now Shiori apparently.

if momoki is real im going to shit on her hard

>>54467096
Good, don't let anons thinks God's gift to men after her debut mogs everyone with singing or an EN cover. For as talented as she is, her lack of passion for vtubing and her homoloving ass is unacceptable.

>>54467096
Make sure its a really runny and stinky one

>>54439050
I still can't believe Hololive missed on Chapipi, that girl was a must have when it comes to western music chuubas, instead we're getting jaded old guard, vshojo orbiter and a phase orbiter? Good fucking job Cover management, aside from the twins this is incredibly grim

>>54454747
Worried cuz none have followed the homos so we’re in for another 180 meltdown later down the line

>>54460412
Even the twins?? fuck off, larper.

>>54439493
We did pay attention to her after Ollie appeared in her chat, we crossed her out because some anon said that she already reincarnated at that time, only kronii and fauna were unexpected, mumei, irys, sana, were on the mark, near misses were bae because she was discarded, and like another 4 that ended somewhere else, those were rosemi, selene, shiki and isla.

>>54434041
>eyes in shiori's background
>has eyelashes

>eyes in puppet's mouth
>no eyelashes

>>54472612
About Shiori

>>54472199
Isn't chapipi in Idol corp now
She's mid at best

>>54434092
>e-girl (yes moe was an egirl, eventually she started having to sort of clickbait because numbers were dwindling)
>e-girl
>actual, real idols
>e-girl
2/5 isn’t bad.

Its over.

It never even started.

>>54473201
She's Beryl tier, it would've been better than most of the current predictions except for the twins

>>54473201
She's leagues better at singing than anyone in HoloEN.
She's probably too GFE for HoloEN though, so kinda fine she didnt get in

>>54439050
Im just hoping the predictions are wrong about waabyuu, caitlyn, and moe, and cover actually picked out some unknown diamonds.
Axel and Ame were fucking nobodies, so its possible.

>>54459903
Beryl left Kawaii early on partially because they couldn't get her a work visa to stay in Japan. She ended up joining a Japanese microcorp. Her graduation from that microcorp was announced on June 9th. Behind the scenes the graduation was probably in the works much earlier. Do you really believe she left her company at the start of auditions; long before she knew if she even made it in yet? Literally the only way this happens is if she got scouted, and that seems unlikely. Can Cover sign her on and get her a work visa a full year before she's gonna debut? Maybe. But would they? I doubt it. I really wanted her to be in but let's be realistic here. If she's not in EN3, and there isn't another vsinger role debuting in the next few months, it ain't happening. I'd sooner believe that she joined the JP side than she's waiting for EN4.

>>54464819
>pic related
This is more "cover hires 4chan mods" tier schizophrenia. Im not buying it.

>>54434092
holy fuck it's over

>>54434041
Oh hell no that bitch is boring af

>>54476264
You're boring af