/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I'm more certain that anyone not a fan of the twins will just go back to whoever they already oshi'd in EN given the current speculations for Advent.

>>54436205
>ina not at number 1

>>54436205
Why do nijiniggers love to project so much?

>>54436205
It's Mori. She fucking lost viewers to fucking tempuss.
Listing Kiara is retarded. She has the most dedicated gachikois in EN.

>>54436377
>She fucking lost viewers to fucking tempuss.
Grim

Can number niggers please stay in your containment thread

>>54436377
>She has the most dedicated gachikois in EN.
She had the third largest drop in viewership since 2022 by your own chart though?

OP seething he didn't get into Hololive Advent

>>54436205
idk probably idol and phase

>>54436377
There is no fucking way Ina's average for 2023 is 10k lmao she has been spamming nothing but Zelda and drawing streams that all get 5-6k
What a bullshit chart

Nijiniggers and small corpofags are so scared. It's funny.

>>54436205
It's impossible for Gura to lose viewers.

But Watson and Bae are already in the gutter

>>54436205
you know what? i think everybody is going to be fine

>>54436205
1. Pomu is a given, since she's menhera and hemorrhaging fans

2. Selen. She's already putting dragoons through the pain of watching her flirt with dude everyday and play apex. They are just forcing themselves to watch her now.

3. Small corpos; refugee camps for holoen fans. Irrelevant now.

Nijien in general is going to lose a lot of the remaining male fans.

>>54436205
>3. Kiara
Nah, Kiara has already filtered potential fans plenty with the voice and personality. Anyone that might leave already would have, and the kfp that stuck with her certainly are not going anywhere.

I agree with everything minus kiara

>>54436377
>posting the old one

>>54436205
Mori gets slaughtered by overlap so she usually avoids it. New members means she has less places to hide. That's why she has beens so desperate to find a new timeslot recently

>>54436965
Gotta love how these numbers for the exact same years are just wildly different between charts and yet nobody calls out the obvious fakeness of at least some of them.

>>54436205
The only ones losing here are small corpos, specifically Idol. Holofags needed something new and in desperation they turned to these knock off companies. Now that a new gen is coming there's no need to force themselves to watch that trash.

>>54437087 (me)
*been

>>54436205
>Mori not listed
>Holo v Holo
This is either a deadbeat thread or another retarded low effort anti thread.

>>54436641
Kiara literally has nothing to lose at this point

>>54437087
Why didn't she just cultivate a devoted Hololive fanbase instead of splitting her time with RM shit for 2 years?

>>54437150
It's the second
No need to add Mori because retards will bring her up in any thread at this point.

>>54436377
>She fucking lost viewers to fucking tempuss
kek but also her fans are mostly woman.

if Advent is successful, small corpos will benefit from a spillover of fans
if not, well they'll continue on as usual

that's how leeching works

>>54436205
The only way for Kiara to lose members to another holo, if that holo would be in EU timezone.
She has a whole continent all to herself and the majority of those get up early for work and wont watch streams at 2am in the night
Those who still do, are jobless NEETs with no disposable income, so they don't matter

>>54436205

>Our Bright Parade Blu Ray costs $200
what the fuck

>>54436205
Replace Kiara and Gura with Ina, Mori or Bae and then sure.

>>54436205
1. Mori. she has to run and hide nowadays to keep an audience because she's the girl people put on if nobody else is on.
2. kronii. ungrateful and unlikable. most importantly she despises the job and instead of trying to compete with advent she will hide and wait for her fans to leave, thereby conceding them without a fight.
3. fauna. to a lesser extent she's the girl people put on because nobody else is on. she has a large fanbase of gachi so she's fine, but she's going to shed a lot of the group that bumped her up in recent times because she was the only consistent streamer.

safest
1. kiara. she has arguably the most dedicated fanbase in hololive. for all the jokes that kfp is not a cult they really seriously are a cult.
2. gura. the shorks fans are only there for her and her alone, hololive be damned.
3. watson. she already shedded all but the most diehard of goslings, she has nowhere left to drop.

>>54436377
Her Gachis are so cultistic and toxic while enabling her worst behavior continuously that she's already bleeding viewers a lot

>>54436205
Using the dead to shitpost. Disgusting

>>54436205
I disagree with Kiara, people who would be filtered by her have been filtered and those left are very loyal. You could say the same about Kronii and Watson except it's more of an emotional Stockholm Syndrome, so maybe they'll be able to find someone new.
Gura is Gura. I wouldn't bet for or against her. If she doesn't disappear into the ether in months she'll keep her viewers. The chumpedos would only jump for another loli and the Moai gem gremlin who plays gacha might be too much for some of them.
Some could leave Ina if there's a new comfy boring EN3. Some could leave Fauna if an EN3 has a mommy aura but go further with their ASMR (Fauna please just countdown during ASMR one time I'm begging you).
Most of the others, it really comes down to how these girls are during, after, and months past their debut. Also the timezones that they stream are very important.

>>54439358
Yeah Kiara's a good example of why you DON'T listen to the twitter troons. She shot herself in the foot hard and they're the only ones who can tolerate her now.

>>54436205
I agree with your 1 and 2 choices, but not 3 and 4. Kiara has a lower number of fans, but they are more dedicated, and if Gura's prior hiatuses didn't kill her, new holos sure as fuck won't. I'll got with Mori and Ina for 3 and 4 since Mori is already on the decline and Ina is as interesting as peeling wallpaper.

>>54436283
Kind of hard to lose bots.

>>54439495
Oh I totally forgot about Mori. She has dedicated core but it's pretty small. Most of her viewers are casual and will jump to their actual oshis stream at a moments notice. She can avoid this if she streams outside anyone else's hours without being completely inaccessible to NA timezones.

>>54437093
The 2nd one appears to be covering only between jan1 and july 24th for all three years.

>>54436283
she did 5k viewers yesterday while overlapping with the amesame collab, you faggots just don't wanna admit that she has an actual community

>>54436205
Gura will be fine. And I'm no chumbud but gura has a charm about her. Mori kronii ame and bae will suffer most considering the fact 3 of those girls resorted to coombaiting once they realize how much they fucked up when they interacted with tempiss. And the funny thing is coomers aren't buying their act. Kek.

>>54439925
She fell off fucking hard lol
Ina is a void in the roster. If it were not for her good design, she'd have trouble making 1.5k ppl watch her at any time.

>>54436205
Depends entirely on overlap. If they all stream in the same timeslot, heads will roll for sure.

>>54436431
Viewership != gachis
Axel struggles being a 3view, yet he's got at least 1.3k members. They just don't watch streams.

>>54436564
Depends. HoloEN will never stream at EU primetime, so small corpos in that slot will be totally fine.

>>54437093
That's just because the average changes as more streams are incorporated. Use your brain.

>>54436205
Gura aint gonna lose anything, if the soothsayers are right then none of advent voices can compare so she's safe.
Kiara will only lose if there's an EU streamer in the bunch, and that person will be the runt of the gen anyways because EU time sucks balls.
No argument on Kronii or Watson.

>>54437668
This. HoloEN is almost impossible to watch for euros outside of Kiara. It's literally better to live in India or something, at least you could go to bed early and catch the later streams.

>>54440657
Be a SEAchad

>>54439318
>3. fauna. to a lesser extent she's the girl people put on because nobody else is on.
Clueless. Fauna has the most stable floor of any in HoloEN outside of Gura. Her ceiling isn't very high, but I doubt she'll drop by much unless she's severely overlapped and the new girls are very impressive after the honeymoon period.

>>54436377

>>54440041
Yeah, it's delusional to think Gura will fall off. Even after all of these absences she's still going just fine. And why? I'm not a chumbud either, but it's simply because she's damn good at her job. (i.e. being entertaining on stream.) She's like the antithesis of Kiara. Zero work ethic, all talent. Infuriating perhaps, but undeniable.

>>54436205
forsen

>>54440613
There are plenty of successful streamers in the EU timeslot, it's just that we literally only have Kiara to watch. Do you think you'd watch a lot of Kiara if she was the only choice you had?

>>54440948
I don't know if she lacks worth ethic. I mean, when she came back she had three or four songs ready to go and animated content.
Probably better to say she was inconsistent with appearances.

>>54440681
Between your own branch and your proximity to Japan, you guys are spoiled for choice. You can probably catch EN just fine too.

>>54440948
>Even after all of these absences she's still going just fine. And why?
Because of the absences. If Gura streamed semi-consistently she'd have an average CCV of around 12k, or even lower. Gura streams are a rare event so she gets more people to tune in than normal, but she quickly drops right back off if she starts stringing a few together.

>>54441090
>she maintained BECAUSE she did nothing
My god man, can we limit the cope a tiny bit?

>>54440657
Kiara is hard to watch for euros too. She usually starts before people get off work. Ina used to be in an ideal EU tineslot, starting 9-10pm.

>>54441001
Who?

>>54436205
Agree that Kronii is the most likely to suffer, not so sure on Ame and Kiara since they have already had pretty sizeable culls and may be near their floors already. If one of the new girls is a great singer, I could see IRyS losing some fans.

>>54441058
Work ethic means more than just working hard. I have no doubt that she did stuff, but it was poorly communicated.

>>54441090
I agree that we have too few streams yet to establish a baseline and that she likely did not actually incline, but the point is that it's unlikely that she'll drop off hard in the near future. Between her dedicated fans, meme status and talent, she can coast for a long time. I'd be more worried about others.

>>54441128
Agreed, there seems to be a huge overlap between Narissa and IRyS's niches. Maybe not for streams, depending on timeslot, but for music.

>>54441011
streamers != vtubers. Europe is absolutely hostile ground to vtubers, very little interest.

>>54436205
Kiara filtered on day 1
Mori filtered like 5 times by now
Ame filtered
Guras fanbase is either diehard cumbuds, children, or normalfaggots, cant see her losing viewers
Ina could probably lose some viewers

Kronii’s audience was made up of twitterfags and redditors until she collabed with tempiss
Bae filtered
Mumei could lose viewers
Fauna could lose viewers

If EN3 has a comfy/cute/asmr girl, its over for Ina Fauna and Mumei. Everyone else already only has diehard fans left.

>>54436205
After seeing the niji tier past lives of advent besides the twins, no one is switching oshi

>>54441517
Nope, plenty of successful indies and smaller corpos in Europe. You guys have this idea because you only watch Hololive and thus only have Kiara as a reference point.

>>54436205
They're going to eviscerate the Council. But probably leave Myth mostly unscathed, except maybe Kiara. Depends on when they stream

>>54441565
lol, it's cute that you think filtering means you can't possibly lose more viewers.

>>54441641
>w-we have so many successful 2 and 3 views

rumao sure thing

The twins will filter everyone by constantly saying "bau bau!"
Ravencroft will be notably boring
Everyone will have dub voices
Advent would be the success you think it is

>>54441701
Why do you type like a pretentious faggot? What I mean by “filtered” is that only the diehard fans are left. They could still lose viewers, but short of saying “i hate all my neckbeard fans” on stream, I seriously doubt it. Especially since most of the girls I labelled “filtered” have already had a male collab.

>>54441743
actually proving his point classic

>>54436965
What I'm getting from this is that if you stream a lot, your CCV is lower, which makes sense. Each stream is less special, and it's harder to stay for every hour of a longer stream.

>>54441082
Unless you're KFP, because her hours in these parts is retarded.

>>54436205
That's right, fight, fight, fight. it's about time these cunts start to care.

>>54439358
>>54439496
>antis seething because Kiara won't be negatively effected by EN3
Kek. You guys should pray for Mori, Kronii, and every other girl who has a more casual fanbase. They're going to need it.

>>54437187
Because getting high CCV in Hololive is not her goal, having a music career is? She's getting paid to perform live as her RM now, and she can get paid vacations to cities around the world and sell tons of merch without paying Hololive or Youtube anything if she appears at cons as her RM - she'd be stupid not to do it.

>>54437187
Because she doesn’t care about Hololive, it is just a job. She knows that she needs it though.

>>54442111
This but unironically. That two year wait for EN3 made them too complacent, too arrogant to care for their fans. Can't wait for the mass exodus of their disgruntled fans to the newest girls. The ultimate cuckening of our time.

>>54441814
I know exactly what you meant. Your problem is that you categorize everyone that are left into the same "diehard fans" box, whereas there are degrees and variations within them too. Some of them might be inclined to leave more than others. Male collabs is not the only issue on the agenda.
Take me for example, I would consider myself to be one of my oshi's remaining fans. However, if someone better comes along in a more suitable timeslot for me, I might be inclined to change oshis. It's not because I dislike my current oshi, but I still made it past previous filters because I simply didn't care about those filters, and I genuinely think my current osh is the best one for me. That may not last forever though.
Of course you won't see anyone bragging about it, because most people think it's a bit shameful and don't like it, but that is the reality of the situation.

>>54441959
You know, that makes sense. The one bad timeslot for you guys, and it's entirely empty aside from Kiara. I guess that means we're natural enemies

>>54442214
Except that's not how it worked out, hence her hard 180 this year after practically taunting her fans with homoshit last year

>>54443896
Except she did a bunch of (really fun btw) homoshit collabs this year?

>>54440657
Too bad it's Kiara

>>54444030
>does "really fun" Tempus collabs
>her viewership crashes
Fun indeed kek

>>54444388
Those collabs got good views though? Iirc the GUN collab broke 10k. Her views went down mostly when she started spamming Persona 3 streams at like 3 am EST.

>>54441565
Pure fantasy. You homobeggers really are out here today

>>54436398
till this day I find mindblowing how Cover/EN management simply chose to ignore the numbers/data on how Niji male debuts(and their collab spam strategy) severely hurt the Nijigirls in the medium run. HoloEN management is now clearly desperate to save Calli and Ame's channels(force stopped the male collabs and have been nostalgia baiting nonstop with old ships and content) considering they have been averaging 3k CCV per stream at most and with the new debuts they are bound to get hit even harder

>>54442330
Think they'll have a genuine moment of self reflection or just default to resenting the new girls over it?

>>54441772
Agreed on the last point.

>>54445437
They might've already told them to "take it easy + don't push yourself too hard", kinda like what myth told council when they were starting out rumao

>>54445846
Translation
>Don't be passionate + don't work hard

>>54436205
The twins will steal a lot of fans in an unpredictable manner. They are an X factor being both the first twin channel and, if they are who we think they are, an unique JP appeal that got the western fanbase hooked into vtubers in the first place (except they can actually understand them). Being two people also makes them infinitely more versatile.

>>54444816
There's a reason Mori is avoiding Tempiss like the plague anon. Where were they for her 24 hour stream? Nobody likes Tempiss collabs, nobody wants Tempiss collabs and the temporary boost of twitter troons interested in owning the unicorns is not worth the long term damage it does to your channel.

>>54436205
>Kiara
dunno about that but the split is ded
>>54356060

>>54445846
unfortunately for them the new girls know the value of the grind. I'm sure some of en3 also didn't miss the blitz of buff streams like karaokes this week either.
>>54445338
because the old management were all in on the culture war bullshit that's why. they considered the numbers bled to be worth it to show it to the toxic incel chuds or whatever the silly name they call their boogieman 'enemy' these days.
whoever was running the show has very clearly been unceremoniously fired and replaced by this dimitri jap chap, and he unlike 'omega' actually cares about numbers and overall performance.

>>54447916
>because the old management were all in on the culture war bullshit that's why. they considered the numbers bled to be worth it to show it to the toxic incel chuds or whatever the silly name they call their boogieman 'enemy' these days.
It was so obvious too. HoloEN got infested by trannies early on and unfortunately Myths explosive growth gave them incredible amounts of clout within the company, undeservedly.

>>54436205
Gura is pretty safe. If those months of no streams couldn't remove chumbuds and the yt algo for tourist nothing will.

You really don't know how dedicated and crazy KFP are, do you?

>>54436205
I think you'll see a lot of people who left holoEN over the years come back and try out the new guys. So I'd say the biggest threat is to idol and phase

Here is what the schizos don't want to hear: The rising sea lifts all the boats. Besides chumbuds, most holo viewers tend to watch multiple holos, and EN3 will likely bring in a lot of new blood to the fanbase, so if anything I expect everyone to end up with more fans.

>>54444816
>Those collabs got good views though?
Yes, and they also devastated her viewership because those collabs only attracted Twitter trannies who don't spend money and don't stick around after the collab ends. Meanwhile, Mori's regular viewers have been leaving in droves because intergender collabs are alienating.

This gen is the last chance I will give holo.

>>54441959
Can confirm. 7 hours gap is no joke.

T. SEA who has a frog girl friend on Discord.

Kiara is untouchable. Her fans are radicalized to extreme fanaticism, they would go to war and die for their chicken queen.
Kronii is tricky to tell, she has already bled a lot of her fans and she could always lose more but fan loss has a diminishing return, past some point the only fans remaining are those who are loyal enough to never leave. Has she reached that point? Bigger initial fanbase=bigger super loyal fans and she started with a lot of fans so it's hard to tell if she reached that point yet.
Gura is also tricky, none on the new gen offers what she provides and the only reason she lost so many fans is her inactivity, if she's really back it should be a matter of time for the old fans to return to her.
We have to wait and see if the personalities of the new girls have an appeal to her fans.
Ame has the benefit of her unique original content but she hasn't done much in a long time so I can actually see a lot of people leaving her.
I think what we are really going to see is surface level fans moving along to check new members. The diehard fans won't leave but those who open youtube and watch whoever is live might.

>>54448790
I mean yeah? Just look at JP3 and ID3.

>>54449911
>The diehard fans won't leave but those who open youtube and watch whoever is live might.
Damn RIP Mori lol, the curse is lifted

Oh, so this is why /vt/ was begging so hard for EN3, new blood to spam drama over kek

>>54450079
I don't think it's possible for any force in the universe to lower Mori's CCV more than those late night JRPG streams did.

twins will save holoen if its really them

>>54446657
She mostly collabed with Vesper and Magni who are both suspended, outside of larger groups including ID she never did anything with the rest

>>54448790
>The rising sea lifts all the boats.
We are in the middle of a global recession and holoEN superchats have been steadily going down. Their early celebration streams could often get 30k to 50k in SCs. While new talents will bring in new viewers the overall EN market has reclined after the lockdowns ended.

>>54449911
>Ame has the benefit of her unique original content
Nobody cares. Nobody's going to watch a bitch every week no matter how original your work is. All you have to do to keep your audience is to make your viewers feel welcome.
Also is playing Apex original content now?

>>54436205
This time for sure right?
>>54452183
You're not even a threadreader you fucking idiot.

>>54452874
Why would I watch Ame when she's been a rude, seething cunt since debut?

>>54436205
Another deadbeat post

>>54447916
>>54448111
I have a feeling the real reason why gura wasn’t streaming was because EN management was literally banning everything she wanted to play because she was the loli character.

>>54449300
Even in the best-case scenario I really don't know how anyone could have thought viewers attracted by 'back and forth unhinged banter' were going to stay for slow cinematic FFXVI or even solo Jump King

>>54449911
>Kiara is untouchable. Her fans are radicalized to extreme fanaticism, they would go to war and die for their chicken queen.
These are the only kind of fans I can respect.
Go hard for your oshi or don't show up at all.
They have my full support.

>>54436205
Gura is indeed a WHORE:
https://twitch-tools.rootonline.de/followinglist_viewer.php?username=BarbieSE
>he gets founder badge before everybody else 1 minute after the gawrgura twitch channel was officially created

Don't forget she left for her "house hunting" trip shortly after the Covid travel restrictions to Sweden were lifted. Between the house hunting trip and the winter's hiatus there were 9 months (guess what takes 9 months to evolve).

Gura gets "platonically" fucked by Barbs her "platonic" boyfriend on daily basis, so much that she got "platonically" pregnant with his child and birthed a cute Swedish-American mutt last winter. The WWE poll said "made by user from Sweden" because she was still/again in Sweden shortly before her 2022 birthday, she visits him all the time and most likely owns an house in Sweden to stay over whenever she wants unless she stays directly with him and all his family knows. Also reminder that not only she gets raw creampied by Martin, she also plays games with him instead of streaming, like Outlast Trials and DBD. The only reason she "came back" this month is because he received threats and she's trying to damage control but there's no attachment for her work, much less for her fanbase that she sees only as a nuisance who "won't let me enjoy Martin's cock in peace".

>>54454446

>>54436205
If Advent actually streams?
>Gura
>Ina
>Fauna

>>54440041
>Resorted to coombating
Literally the only 2 who's done this is fauna and bae

>>54452183
>>54453221
>Apex
Literally hasn't played in months but believe what you want
>Debut
So you admit you don't even know what you're talking about since you supposedly haven't been keeping up with her since debut. Cool

>>54439318
>1. kiara. she has arguably the most dedicated fanbase in hololive.
But according to >>54436965 she has the second largest drops on views, or the third largest according to the old info >>54436377
Maybe you are just delusional and people just put up with her because there is nothing more to watch.

>>54455026
Mori Kronii and Bae been coombaiting for weeks now, watch streams faggot.
Bae went from seiso virgin rat to sexual symbol pp games playing degenerate
Kronii started letting her tits out more often in videos and been saying slutty shit.
And Mori got all of these slutty outfits.
But yeah tell me they're not you must be an unironical homobeggar.

>>54456521
To be honest, Bae was always a sex symbol, it's about time she accepted it

>>54455282
>doesn't understand that Kiara has a fanatical core audience
Maybe you're just retarded

>>54457650
>gets verifiable numbers in his face
>"sh-shit... better ad hominem him!"
Sasuga kfpiss!

>>54436205
They will probably all gain fans, new and returning for EN3 hype.

>>54436377
>>54436965
I dont know why Kiara changed her schedule this year. Last year I remember seeing her more often

>>54440279
Unironically this though. Kiara is twice as entertaining as Ina

>>54436205
based

>>54436205
i miss kizuna ai so much, times were simpler then

>>54440041
>Kronii resorted to coombaiting
Kronii has literally always been at this level. The lewd ASMR background and body pillow were more than a year ago

>>54436205
New debuts don’t cause talents’ numbers to drop so no one.

>>54436205
it absolutely would've been Gura if she didn't start streaming again. It was a perfect storm of a huge fanbase being ignored and then shown a bunch of fresh new energized streamers

I stopped watching Ame back in late 2021, what is she like now?

>>54436283
The only people shitting on Ina are the non-ina fans while they watch every stream just the same way fauna schizos do but, we elegantly absorb themselves in schizophrenic dreams about her instead

>>54436965
So basically, Bae and Fauna are the topdogs in EN who MOGS these FRAUDS into the ground like NEW YORK RATS.

>>54436205
Gura obviously, it’s all downhill from here. It looks like it’s over for the chumbuds.

>>54463907

The Kronii hate is crazy

>>54451645
>The market of everything* has reclined after the lockdowns ended.

>>54459870
I much prefer prerecorded videos to streams.

>>54464459
Not really.

>>54436205
>Which ENs will lose the most fans to Advent?
Advent has to prove that they are actually better than any of the other choices available first. If they are dog shit twitch tier whores, nothing will change.

>>54436205
>4. Gura. Lazy shark whore will eventually go for another 3 month hiatus and some of her fans will find someone better to watch.
A significant reason for Gura's popularity is her model's god-tier design. I don't see a significant amount of her fans leaving her for the directionless and, frankly, messy designs of advent. I mean, I don't really see any of your predictions coming true except for MAYBE Kronii, but this one stood out to me. If anything is going to take down the shark's popularity it has to be her own inactivity.

I think Sana is gonna lose some viewers when Advent debuts

Novella will be a better Watson

>>54436205
Your "oshi", even tho she's in niji or vsj

>>54436564
>Pomu is a given, since she's menhera and hemorrhaging fans
She's been like that since her 3D, is it really that bad?

>>54436205
The other Holos will benefit from collabing with EN3, but all the black corpo chubas will lose big time. Most of them are goners already.

>>54456521
Hey non-stream watching fucktard
Bae's PP infatuation and juvenile 12 year old humor dates back to early 2022
Shut the fuck up and stop pretending like you watch streams, it makes you sound brain-less to people that do

>>54466310
All of NijiEN has been hemorrhaging fans since the start of the year (too much company drama), but Pomu still remains the top 3 in female viewership, like she has for the past 2 years.

>>54447916
>he unlike 'omega' actually cares about numbers and overall performance
the company going public definitely played a part in this. for better and for worse, shareholders only care about numbers and money.

>>54448111
>HoloEN got infested by trannies
It was about time they got purged.

May be completely wrong here but I think Mumei unfortunately will be the one hit the hardest by this new branch. Right now her schtick is that she's the edgiest out of all of EN and that's about to change in a big way. I'd say a good 1/3 of the new girls aesthetically fit that role better than Mumei does. It remains to be seen if their personalities also are edgy, so we'll have to wait and see, but just looking at how many people immediately jumped onto the Kronii boat because she has big tits, it seems that looks matter a lot to some people. I like Mumei though and I hope that there's no noticeable impact to her.

>>54468086
Doesn't matter how many tourists leave Pomu has a enough extremely loyal paypigs who will stick with her no matter what

>>54466562
Homobeggars in denial. Your oshi fucked up she's aware of it and now is desperate because her salary isn't adding up. I know you like cock and balls in your streams so go watch tempiss instead and leave the girls alone you fucking weirdo.

>not sucking up to viewers = bad
Kys

>>54436205
Kronii and Watson, yes. Maybe Kiara.
Gura not unless she keeps up her no streaming thing but she seems to be on top of it all of a sudden.
I'm personally betting Mori's going to lose a bit more, but it'll be hard to tell saying as her viewership's already in the gutter.

>>54451645
>recession
Incidentally, the center for quantitative economic research just now forecasted +3.5% GDP growth in this quarter alone. Europoors might be in a recession but the US economy is growing fast as fuck.

>>54477315
That's why Hololive avoids the shabby euro market

>>54436205
fuck you im a loyal kfp I WILL NEVER LEAVE TENCHOU

>>54436205
You assume people will care about these new people beyond their debut.

>>54445338
>HoloEN management is now clearly desperate to save Calli and Ame's channels(force stopped the male collabs and have been nostalgia baiting nonstop with old ships and content)
this isnt scripted pro wrestling you dumb faggot, they arent writing storylines for gura and ame to get back together like your retarded reality tv shows

>>54482384
lol
lmao even

>>54436205
>Gura is the only EN who is a regular 5view
>Losing the most fans
>Not Ina and her cunt attitude

Goddamn it I knew Euro's were retarded but not this retarded.

>>54436377
Mori can't lose weight but she can lose viewers like it's nothing.

>>54470484
I really don't think any of them are going to pull off unhinged like Mumei does, because Mumei is unhinged for real, it's just exaggerated by her act. Even if their design and character is meant to be that way, ENs almost never adhere to the intended character of the avatar.

>>54436965
Didn't expect Irys to be doing so good and didn't expect Kiara to fall off that much, wtf happened with her

>>54446657
>Nobody likes Tempiss collabs, nobody wants Tempiss collabs
then you're missing out on the salt wars buddy, shame but i guess you don't know kino when you see it

I think it depends solely on schedule overlap, and which personalities are overlapping which.
There's been a whole-ass year of the EN girls not having too much of an overlap problem, due to talents going awol and vaccations

>>54454805
Fuck Abilify, that shit made me steal my mom's credit card to buy $1000 in TF2 hats to gamble with

>>54441772
>Everyone will have dub voices
I keep getting ads for a vtuber group that's just like this.

>>54436479
Ina has a ton of vod watchers because drawing streams are often used as background noise.

>>54436205
1) Kronii- Already irrelevant, but Nerissa will take all her remaining fans.
2) Mumei- Filler streamer, and I think she will be competing directly with Shiori for fans, may take heavy losses.
3) Ame- A filler streamer, and too apathetic to do what is needed to stay relevant. However, she has already hit rock bottom, so cant lose much more.
4) Mori- She's a Filler streamer, and she knows it. Already plans to change her streaming time to dead hours, to avoid competition.
5) Bae- Filler, currently riding high on her PP fame, but the new girls will take most of her fair-weather fans.

6) Ina- Boring AF, can't believe anyone still watches her. Now she will have more competition. However, she won't take a financial hit, since no-one pays her anyway.
7) Irys- Declines slightly, but everyone will still show up for her karaoke.
8) Fauna- Saplings are loyal, will lose some viewers, but will still be making bank.
9) Kiara- Unaffected, cus she streams EU time, and KFP love her. Subs may even increase, as she collabs with new blood.
10) Gura- Inclines, as she feels more motivated to stream, more chum-buds will come back.

>>54473119
Has any vtuber ever profited by going against the wishes of their viewers?

>>54436205
Numbers: The Animation

>>54492479
Yes, but only in the short term. Whenever there's a scandal, they get an outpouring of support from people who aren't hardcore fans and are just showing up to watch it all burn or fight their culture war. It's ultimately damaging because such people never stick around.