/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Wasn't expecting to hear some Greek, but it would be great if someone from HoloEN made a song in ENGLISH.

>Holo EN
>Singing in nipponese

Chuuni shark is best shark

>>5436596
It's a 7/10, the expectation was significantly stronger than the result so people think it's shit.

>>5436642
>>5436700
EN was a mistake, go back

>>5436596
Not bad but not great either. It is just decent.

>>5436700
>>5436642
The song feels very anime which is something I expected from Gura. When I hear it, it feels like someone who can't sing is covering an anime OP. Or maybe she can sing but singing an original in japanese without any reference is hindering her a lot.

>>5436596
Gura is love, the song however is garbage. Her beautiful voice is again turned robotic and soulless. The pounding drums are nice I guess, but everything else is too generic and underwhelming. There wasn't even a moment in the song where Gura can flex her skills because the song doesn't require any kind of delivery that requires effort. She needs to do a slower, ballad type of song because that's when she shines the most. Gura is dumb and doesn't know how to show off her full potential, it's just sad that her managers are also dumb and can't guide her in the right path. Also, it's really fucking retarded that she didn't make an English song, it makes the song sound even more generic because 99% of Hololive songs are in a different language already. Maybe Gura will see some criticism and decide to make an actual good song next time? Or chumbuds will just pretend to like it and encourage her shit taste so she remains this way.

>>5436805
>The song feels very anime which is something I expected from Gura
In what fucking way? Because it's in Japanese?

Anyone else wonder how big Gura's farts are?

>>5436827
Because it feels anime. She was an unironic weeb before getting into hololive.

>>5436877
>She was an unironic weeb before getting into hololive
Every non-japanese girl in Hololive is an unironic weeb. Normie girls don't go and join a Japanese idol company to play as an anime girl and sing songs.
The song doesn't feel anime at all. It feels more like a Yaosobi song than anything.
If anything Hinotori is much more anime

>>5436596
I blame Cover because ...um... Cover should be blamed.

>>5436596
gets better if you hear it multiple times, but it doesn't live up to the hype. I'd say 7.5/10. Think it will easily clear 1 million, it might even clear 3 million within a few months, but it won't clear 5 million within a year.

>>5436972
>Hinotori is much more anime
I didn't say it isn't but you obviously didn't watch a lot of anime if you think Hinotori which feels like early 2010s anime OP is the only way anime OP can be like. Lurk moar.

>>5436787
/hlg/ is just right down the street lad, feel free to join them. YWNBJ

>>5436972
I 100% agree that it has a similar feel to YOASOBI, who has been blowing up recently in the JP music scene.

>>5437066
YWNBF

I like the song
Nice music and good voice is good song

>>5437066
You will never bea westerner, SEA monkey-kun

>>5437152
Why the hell would anyone want to be a westerner? SEA people aren't from the middle east or africa my friend.

But do they all have to sing??

>What is with Japs

>>5437383
They're not required to sing in Hololive, but it is expected and preferred that they do even if the singer is bad.

>>5436596
Nah it is just that gura sings it in Japanese and the one who mixes it is retard. Her voice is relatively good around the vtuber community and that's one of the reasons she has that many subs.

>>5436596
Lmao you fags just can't help yourselves. Gura being the best singer will never stop making you seethe uncontrollably. Gr8 b8 m8 r8 8/8

>a genuine good song
Do chumcucks really?

>>5436812
>There wasn't even a moment in the song where Gura can flex her skills because the song doesn't require any kind of delivery that requires effort. She needs to do a slower, ballad type of song because that's when she shines the most. Gura is dumb and doesn't know how to show off her full potential, it's just sad that her managers are also dumb and can't guide her in the right path. Also, it's really fucking retarded that she didn't make an English song, it makes the song sound even more generic because 99% of Hololive songs are in a different language already.
Some legit criticism IMO.

>>5437072
yeah she sings better than ayase honestly

>>5436596
guras voice is perfect, it's just the mixing is bad. they let her down.

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>>5437830
>blaming the mixing
She obviously doesn't know how properly sing in japanese. She should have sang in english. Mixing can't save a bad singer.

It's fine. That's it. The lyrics aren't particularly interesting, and the tune doesn't really stand out. I can't find much to complain about, but I see no reason to listen to it more than once.

>>5437383
This is the problem with people taking the "Huur duur they're not idols because they said boobs once" shit too seriously. There are clearly idol elements in hololive, and even if they aren't completely conventional there is enough idol in them to differentiate them from other vtubers at least, and singing is a major part of that.

>>5436812
It's a good song. But your criticism is still valid.

>>5438030
No it's not faggot

>>5436812
110% this

>>5438004
>She obviously doesn't know how properly sing in japanese. She should have sang in english
You need meds schizo. There's no difference singing in different languages, it's all just sounds. Her singing voice is amazing, the song just doesn't have many parts that show this off, but it does have some, and you are being intentionally full of shit to bait people.

>>5438004
chumchuds will never accept that gura is just a mediocre singer.
it's like how they praise her like she's a rhythm game in the easiest rhythm game of all time, muse dash.

>>5436596
i love the music, i like her voice in some parts, the english parts are cringe

>>5438116
>There's no difference singing in different languages
There isn't but she isn't used to sing in japanese. Usually in covers she have something to refer too. This is an original in english and thus she doesn't know when and how to make her sound good. I bet you she does it by feeling which is good if she had enough experience singing an original song in japanese.

>>5438158
>chumbuds will never accept blatant lies
Seethe lol
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ij9LRGIj8c

>>5436596
1:40 to 2:10 is easily my favorite part of the song

>>5438158
>it's like how they praise her like she's a rhythm game in the easiest rhythm game of all time, muse dash.
Yeah this is funny after seeing her play FnF.

>>5438158
She's a good singer but not a great one and definitely not the best in Hololive like cumbuds say she is

>>5438257
3 posts above literally linked a cover she sings better than anyone else in hololive has ever sung anything.

>>5436642
Nobody likes listening to English it's a boring language ESL-kun.

>>5438279
cope chumcuck

>>5438248
You mean the shitty download version of FnF with awful hit detection. Then she switched to the browser version and annihilated the whole thing instantly until tankman with the upscroll debuff. Then she switched to downscroll and annihilated tankman in one try too. That FnF?

>>5436596
Good first song. Hopefully it encourages her to keep making music as I'm really looking forward to it in the future

>>5438328
I don't need to cope, you just got BTFO with proof and have nothing in return, you're the one coping and everyone can see it lmao

WHY JAPNESE

>>5438214
once again, chumchuds don't actually watch anyone but gura. she's okay. high mid tier in singing maybe.
but she gets mogged by anyone who can actually sing, e.g. suisei.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLak0dxBKpM
sounding cute is not singing well.

>>5436596
I like it. I look forward to someone putting it in a rhythm game, and then Gura to play that rhythm game.

>>5438392
I'm listening to Suisei sing 10x better than the cunny shark right now cumbud

>>5436596
Not in English even though it’s all original, defeats some of the point of having an original. Also getting people outside of Hololive to relate to video, means English makes MORE SENSE for the upload reaching new people. Cover is clearly handicapping her.

>>5438343
FnF isn't that hard anon

how long did chumcucks wait for this song? 6 months? and it's not even half as good as any of moris songs.
embarassing really. this is what happens when you get too cocky.

Just hire some famous producer fagoo

>>5436642
Haachama made 2 songs in English.
#HololiveEN0.

>>5438417
>links a recorded song in response to a perfect live performance
Every time. Literally every fucking time lmfao. Gura antis are so fucking stupid its mindblowing. You didn't even listen to the song in the post you're replying to, she doesn't just sing it well, she nails a professional song without using any cute voice at all. God you're so fucking obvious.

>>5436596
Honestly I enjoyed it first listen, beat slaps pretty hard, and I wasn’t too focussed on the quality. On multiple listens I can hear how Gura’s voice is processed in a weird way, the EQ makes it sound like she’s singing down a telephone at times, and there seems to be some odd filtering although that could just be due to YouTube compression. I would have like more of the Phrygian, Greek style instrumental that was dotted around, I felt like that was honestly good music, the rest felt pretty generic to me. Gura’s singing was of course good but nothing stood out as particularly impressive technically. It seemed to lack some musical cohesion and there was some dissonance between different sonorities throughout, but that’s not a complaint that holds much water. A good outing for her first original song.

>>5438482
You don't get it anon. She was only bad at first because the game was against her. What do you mean other people can play it fine?

>>5436642
>it would be great if someone from HoloEN made a song in ENGLISH
Then it would reach a bigger audience, and that may be an issue. Holo EN may remain smaller.

>>5438434
Suisei is singing a lot better than usual tonight but she still doesn't have Gura's resonance or transition skill and she has really weak falsetto. Ten times better is fucking laughable when she's barely 90% as good.

>>5438279
Gura has potential but she is no master, her range is still limited.

Listen to real professionals

>>5436812
You've basically got it nailed down.

The music choice, whether it's an original or cover, is half the battle. This song did just about every trick in the book to cover up Gura's singing skills. Meanwhile in Ollie's last cover, they picked a song and mixing techniques which somehow sounds alright despite her having the singing voice of an utter harpy.

Someone proposed this song to Gura and she was too much of a doormat to say no. Chumbuds will say it is the greatest song ever composed by mankind, so the next one will be the exact same. I love Gura's singing. She deserves better than this.

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>>5438343
Cope

>>5438417
I've never been impressed with Suisei's singing. No talent good technique. As a musician however I really respect her
I'm blown away by Gura's raw vocalist talent, her voice is once in a generation kind of thing, and when she sings a song that she's familiar with and in her range it just incredible . It's even more impressive given that she has no musical training and I can't wait till she fully grows as a musician.

>>5438644
>she has no musical training
Anonchama... your reps...

no one wants gura to sing properly
she better stick to baby engwish

>>5438580
>her range is still limited
How is her range limited when she hits much higher notes than the girl you're shitposting with exactly?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4muRkNPuQco

>>5438417
why do people think suisei is good? suisei just has no depth or richness to her voice. mori can't really sing but still mogs her in the getcha cover.

>>5438580
I don’t think there’s much worth in comparing any of Hololive’s singers to honest to goodness professionals. I could say “compared to Kiri Te Kanawa she sounds like a teenager singing karaoke at a party” but what’s the actual point, there is no overlap for comparison.

>>5438707
Do deadbraps really?

1. Wants to reach the biggest audience for a viral video.
2. Doesn’t make it in English.

>>5438687
no formal* musical training. I typed that it but it disappeared for some reason.

>>5438707
Calli sounds like an out of breath hyena when she tries to sing

>>5438707
Even as a number one Gura fan I gotta say Suisei is proving you wrong tonight. She's improving. She still needs to work on a number of things though, things which Gura just does naturally with no training.

It’s weird because Japanese bands try to learn English to reach a bigger audience.

Gura knows English and yet sings in Japanese to reach a smaller audience.

>>5438798
You can't seriously think Gura is a better singer than Comet

>Bunch of faggots pretending others will agree with their opinions on something as objective as music
You're better off arguing about which genre of porn is the hottest.
Personally (and I've heard them all) this is my favorite OS to come out of Hololive. Not because of the singing or rhythm primarily, but because it stimulates my inner animator. A music video for this could be god-tier and it really jingles my jangles.
But of course, I'm me and you're (You), who've lived a different life, listening to different music and having different priorities/tastes.
Please /vt/! See reason!

>>5438773
What's the difference? She went to classes. Isn't that enough to be considered musical training?

>>5438712
I keep fucking saying this. It's like arguing who the biggest fish is in this small ass pond of talent about virtual youtubers.

What matters more is SOUL

Because some people are memeing about it, yes Gura and Suisei are the top frogs in this shallow pond that is hololive singing. But step outside hololive and you can hear a lot of good singers like Hachi, Leona, Aoi etc. Though likewise, step outside vtubers and there are the best IRL singers. It's somewhat relative.

>>5438858
>Bunch of faggots pretending others will agree with their opinions on something as objective as music
Subjective*

>>5438858
>You're better off arguing about which genre of porn is the hottest.
Objectively it's usually anything with lolis and milf. NTR is the worst though.

It hardly even sounds like she's singing.

>>5438856
>what's the difference between teaching yourself versus having an actual mentor that will give you pointers and will properly develop your repertoire.

ITT: hurr durr who is the best singer!?!?!?
>Your oshi sucks because mine is obviously better!
Doesn't this get old for you retards? Please enjoy listening to all the girls sing. They are all very talented.

>>5438903
She went to classes anon. As I said, do your fucking reps.

It's a good song but it's not mixed as well as it could be
People saying it needs to a slower or a ballard or something don't understand Gura's singing ability

>>5438417
It's time to accept you have tinnitus and you should yourself get checked.

>>5438580
Yeah, like Sora and Azki, not Suisei. Also not Gura, though.

>>5438832
Comet needs to work on resonance and hitting her fucking notes correctly and then we can talk. Gura has perfect pitch and perfect beautiful gorgeous rich resonant tone (when she does her best, she's not always consistent with the good tone but that is probably due to nerves).

I'm a singer with years of professional training and yes I can absolutely 100% say with certainty Gura is better overall. Gura's better than me and I can sing better than Suisei on a good day.

As I said in another post though Suisei is singing particularly great tonight and I'm proud of her improvement since last time I listened to her.

>>5438923
pretty much.

>>5438894
this.

>>5438868
Seeing as you brought up people outside of hololive, have any of you heard my oshi, Aozora Kurumi sing? She is pretty fucking good.
https://youtu.be/uQq6PBFGOJg

>>5438868
that's not relative at all you fucking retard
when talking about who's the best at singing in hololive, you talk about hololive.
there are a bunch of utaite that stream games like once a month. mafu, amatsuki, soraru, 96neko etc. there's obviously no competition, they mog vtubers because they're actual singers and have been singing for a decade plus.

>>5438925
she has never been trained in the classical sense, she has said this in the first few months. fuck off

A nice song, but not something really sublime to listen. 6/10.

>>5438831
>It’s weird because Japanese bands try to learn English to reach a bigger audience.
no, they don't. most Japanese don't even learn English outside of school. they insert a couple English words in their songs because it's exotic. that's all.

>>5438856
I always consider formal musical training to be people who learn music theory or maybe take classical opera training. You know, what you learn in college. Even pop musicians benefit from knowing how classical singing works. But music is a special world where people can arrive from very different walks of life, so there are other kinds of training one can receive from less formal, behind-the-alley mentors.

>>5438998
You clearly are fucking retarded. Her roommate went to vocal training. She also took singing classes. I have her doxxshit. I won't post it because the mods are anal with shit like that.

>>5438956
I am also a professional singer of 400+ years and can firmly say that Suzy is the better singer

>>5438994
That is an agressive opening for a post that basically agrees with me.

This song is nice and all, but don't forget to listen to Heart Challenger!

I'm interested in hearing the cumbud mental gymnastics to explain why the best singer with the biggest audience who spent 9 months on her first original song gets an order of magnitude less views than Calli putting out a song immediately.

>>5439021
>Japanese bands don’t care about English
Actually they do. An example is Band Maid trying to get more English in, and bands like Love Bites sing entirely in English. Both female bands to compare them to the female VTuberd. Why bother with English? Because they want a bigger audience. I clearly know more about this topic then you do. The ones that don’t is because it’s a difficult thing to market yourself overseas, and they don’t always want to alienate there current audience.

as a professional myself, I agree gura is better.
she has more vibrato to her voice when she sings, something that suisei lacks. she's alot more natural.
it's unfortunate for suisei, but gura is just more natural. she has talent.

>>5439101
There's nothing wrong with your oshi being second or third best anon, no need to get bitter and sarcastic. I may need to reconsider if Risu is still better than Suisei after tonight.

>>5439074
>another faggot pretending to have FORBIDDEN KNOWLEDGE that he lords over other people but always in the end has some flimsy ass evidence that he's convinced himself is true
Seriously, kill yourself tourist.

>>5439157
Because Gura vid isn't animated. Like at all. Who the cuck is editing this shit?

Anyone else getting "I'm gonna graduate soon" vibes from this song?

>>5439157
This is already the fastest a hololive song has accumulated this many views anon, and youtube froze the viewcount a little while ago if its still stuck on 492k.

Yagoo just doesn't pay enough for composers. That's the problem. Look at Mito's debut album it's full of famous j-pop composers

>>5439217
So, you don't know H E R roommate. You guys are pathetic. Just do some archive reps.

As a person who likes to listen to music for my enjoyment rather than to find ammo for shitflinging I think both Gura and Susei sound really nice.

>>5439157
It's a picture. It's in Japanese. You need to turn on captions to see the lyrics for fucks sake. Not to mention it released midnight for her audience right before Monday and it's just been a couple hours. And even still:
>magnitude less views than Calli
proof?

>>5439198
I feel a little bad for Suisei because after holotalk with Kiara I discovered she was damaging her voice from how she was speaking on stream and has a vocal coach training her to fix that now, I think she really held back her development because of that.

>>5438979
I have not heard of her before. I listened to some of her covers and I think Kurumi sounds good. Though I haven't found a cover that gives me goosebumps, like with Hachi. But again, it depends on what standards you are thinking of.
https://youtu.be/kh6sjK6GKVA

>>5439198
Vibrato is a stylistic choice though, not something that adds or subtracts from the quality of ones singing, you think if I put Rossini-esque operatic vibrato into a performance of a Bach aria then it would sound better? No of course not. Horses for courses as they say.

>>5439157
Gura’s upload is 3 hours old

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>>5439397
Ooh yeah, that's the good shit. More please!

Listen, we're gonna need to lie to her that the song is good or she won't have confidence to make more. Practice makes perfect.

>>5439424
Is it not 3 hours? What am I missing?

>>5439157
Here's something for you, nigger. The times until Holo songs reached 1 million views the fastest:
>Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 2 Days
>Roki (Mori Calliope) - 2 Days 46 Minutes
>Goodbye Sengen (Nakiri Ayame) - 2 Days 14 Hours 51 Minutes
>Can You Do the Hololive? (HoloJP 0-5, EN 1, ID 1-2) - 3 Days
>Hololive Ochame Kinou (HoloJP 0-4) - 3 Days
>GETCHA! (Hoshimachi Suisei / Mori Calliope) - 4 Days 1 Hour 45 Minutes
>Goodbye Sengen (Minato Aqua) - 4 Days 6 Hours 41 Minutes
>KING (Nakiri Ayame) - 4 Days 16 Hours 36 Minutes
>RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5 Days
>King (Suisei) - 5 Days 15 Hours 56 Minutes
>Peko Miko Great War (Miko and Pekora) - 6 Days
>Red (Mori Calliope) - 6 Days
>Sorairo Days (Matsuri and Gura) - 7 Days
It's only been few hours and Gura's already almost at 500K mark.

guys what about nyanners singing skills

>>5439269
Imagine a man of which whole identity depends on "I know this e-girl more than you!" How miserable.

>>5439382
This is true, but good use of vibrato still demonstrates skill. Comet has actually had some good vibrato tonight, I enjoyed it. Gura's is just magical though, it's like her signature feature as a singer, and it's borderline professional celebrity tier even though the rest of her singing technique is not nearly that mature.

>>5439382
This. It's obvious that the people who like Gura's singing are easily impressed by a little vibrato and hear nothing else. Professionals my ass.

>>5439196
once again, you don't quite get it.
japanese people find english exotic. the same way as weebs find japanese exotic.
why would they sing entirely in English?
it's why stuff like BTS and K-pop in general is popular.
naming two literal whos among all of jpop is hilarity.

>>5439462
all me btw

>>5439503
>nya***rs
Who cares. Irrelevant.

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>>5439462
>view count grows linearly

>>5439377
Thank you for actually watching her for a bit. There are some songs she sang in karaoke that gave me goosebumps like this one. https://youtu.be/iSCyZM7Jo3Q

>>5439503
They're unironically not bad. I know a lot of people dislike Nyanners here for various reasons but giving my objective analysis Nyanners has some skill. I don't think I've ever heard her do something that blew me away though, she just manages to not sound actively bad.

>>5439563
cope

>>5439462
>It's only been few hours and Gura's already almost at 500K mark.
>almost
Nigga, the count bugged out and froze a while ago. I estimate it's in at least 600-700k atm

>>5438798
Gura is not a good vocalist. Her breath support is nearly non-existent.

>>5439546
You can also hear her nearly perfect pitch at all times, her smooth legato, her clean bridging from chest to head. She's not a one-trick pony with the vibrato it's just her killer ultimate move.

>>5439546
It is not very productive to argue with an audience on tastes. It's like a comedian complaining why people don't laugh at their joke. The listener is the final arbiter. If more people are easily impressed by Gura's vibrato, that is a plus point for her.

>>5439525
I’d really like to hear Gura work on her vowels, it’s something sorely lacking from her technique, and it’s not too hard to fix, maybe it’s just a result of the voice she does, but when the good vowel sounds appear it’s a totally different experience. I remember when I was first having intense vocal training after my voice had settled and my teacher spent weeks getting me to sing arias from the Italian song book just to get them perfect, and unsurprisingly it worked. That might be anecdotal though.

>>5439638
Anon you need to listen to more of her recent stuff, she used to sing karaoke while fucking sitting down. She absolutely has good breath support when she uses correct posture.

>>5439546
anyone who says they're a professional is just a damage controlling chumcuck.
laymen don't really care as long as it sounds exciting.
https://youtu.be/cZZM3bgmXE4

>>5436596
It's just okay. Expected something way better.

>>5436881
The only "electronic" part is her "dark side" which is done for the theme. There is more regular singing then there is not but you just want something to complain about because you can't see the whole picture, you autistic fuck.

>>5439665
Gura has a weird way of pronouncing things in general and she definitely slurs words and stumbles on lyrics, so yeah, I see where you're coming from but I'm not sure if it's that she needs to train hitting the vowels correctly or just put more focus on enunciation. But that can also be kind of a stylistic thing. I don't actually think it sounds good when she over-enunciates.

If there's something I think she really needs to work on its recovery time between phrases. She might need to increase breathing speed or maybe she needs to work on vowel transitions.

Not a chumbud but I think it was alright.

Lots of wannabe music experts here though, thinking they can do better kek

yep, its stuck at 492.945 views. Youtube must suspect its absolutely meteoric rise.

>my favorite holo is better than yours
>nuh uh, yours sucks, mine is better
>oh yeah? but look at all these views mine is getting, lol cuck
Meanwhile, everyone else who is slightly sane will just enjoy each peace and not make it a competition, including the girls themselves who absolutely love any song the others put out.

>>5439606
>bugged
Have you ever considered that there's a reason view counts always "bug" for Gura and trigger the anti-bot mechanisms?

How much Autotuned was used on Gura's voice

>>5439857
Yeah anon it's just bots that pay her 30k+ memberships.

>>5439857
Because gura is insanely popular but Susan can’t allow some weeb shit on the front page?

>>5439925
Nah, must be bots

>>5439857
Is this the final cope gura antis resort to, trying to claim that she's botted for some reason?

>>5439829
Chumbuds are kpopfags botting views.
https://www.dexerto.com/music/youtube-respond-to-claims-of-deleting-views-from-bts-on-music-video-1334804/

>>5439857
>this new on how Youtube works

>>5439829
Actually YouTube always freezes for a bit. And there is always a comment on it

>>5439987
yes

>>5439857
So Youtube can remove Kiaras botted dislikes on a vshojo collab but Guras vod bits are somehow unaffected? How do those things fit together?
t. apparently an underage pedophile ojisan according to /vt/

>dude numbers!

Literally who cares? She has 3 million subs of course it will get a lot in the first week.

The problem is song is just not great.

my expectations were initially low since I expected some kind of idolshit like flare's smile and go or nene's lunch with me, but when I saw the art my hopes started rising.
When I heard it, I was impressed. It lived up to the expectations the art gave me. It being in JP was definitely kind of weird, but it sounds pretty nice tbdesu.
Gura's singing doesn't bother me, and does sound pretty good for the song.

come t. bro

ghost remains the best song any holo has released

It's like if all you fags care about is if it will get a lot of views and beat Cali.

>>5436596
It's a terrible song just like every other vtuber song. Pop is truly a shit genre beyond salvation.
The soulless lyrics and music make it feel extremely generic no matter how much you love the person singing. All the personality that makes the core of their streams is completely lost.

>>5440282
As I said, all I care about is Gura feeling confident enough to keep making more songs.

>>5436596
Where are my English songs from HoloEN?
Am I gonna have to wait for Amelia?

>>5440487
Mori have some

>>5440564
Mori is black.

>>5439563
That's not even what he said, but don't let that get in the way of your shitposting, anon.

>>5436877
Any song in Japanese lyrics will feel 'anime' to you tards. It actually doesn't.

It's okay; I enjoyed the few times I listened to it, but it's not something that I'm going to go out of my way to listen to constantly or download and put on a playlist. If anything, I'm more interested in how releasing this song will affect Gura going forward; I hope this is the shot of confidence she sorely needed and we'll be seeing her go all out from this point forward, not only for her fans but more importantly for herself as well.

>>5440353
What kind of music do you enjoy and want vtubers to sing?

>>5440618
it feels anime/weeby specifically because she sucks at singing in Jap

>>5436596
I had high expectation to this song cus chumbuds here love to tell others that their oshi is the best singer in hololive. Im quite disappointed after listening to it.

I can't see myself listening to this a lot. It's just okay.

>>5440353
I push my fingers into my EYES!

This is another singer vs singer vs singer thread, isn't it?

>>5440673
No, that's your EOP ears, that hear Japanese in anime openings for the majority of your life.

Let's be honest here. It's nowhere near best Hololive songs and nowhere near HER covers.

>only 20k new views in the past 2 hours
it's over

>>5440724
no I know Japanese u dumb fuck. I member shishiron and I know what bad fucking japanese sounds like

>>5436596
>Honestly, the song is good. Not an idol song. Not a cute song. Just a genuine good song. But the singing is shit. Gura just can't sing this. My only hope is if someone better at singing like Risu or Suisei can cover this.
I find it the other way around. The instrumental is shit but her voice is good.

>>5440781
Bullshit, the japs are fucking loving the song.

>>5440757
Cumbuds don't care about her producing anything of value. They only want fortnite gameplay and booba jokes. Sad to see such a terrible fanbase.

>>5436596
I don't like it

>>5440844
See you when it's stuck at two million views forever.

For a mega hyped best singer in Hololive this is a massive disappointment. Almost all Suisei or Towa songs mog the shit out of it.

>>5440668
Prog rock, ofc.
Will never happen on Hololive or any other JP group since 21st century Japanese people cannot fathom the idea of music not made for teenagers to mindlessly wave colored sticks to.

To all of the falseflaggers and shit posters on this whole board:

I sincerely hope that you kill yourselves immediately

>>5439509
This song is basically gura thanking her prior identity and moving on from it. Those who don't know it are getting 1/3 of the meaning "lol she used to be a killer shark". Plus her prior life was far and away the biggest prior life holo has signed.

>>5440673
She doesn't though, you're a delusional /hlg/tard. Her japanese pronunication is excellent.

>>5440885

Gura sounds nice when she sings in Japanese, but not when she speaks it. This song shouldn't have had Japanese speaking lines, it just highlights how broken she sounds when speaking foreign languages, and it'll be embarrassing to look back on if she actually does learn Japanese in the future.

>>5440885
I screen capped this post.

That's it niggers, i'm calling the Russian bots not even Suzan is going to be able to stop me

>>5440910
Yeah can we get Gura singing suppers ready? Unironically would be really interesting to see. It wouldn’t be good, but I’m really curious how any of them would deal with singing a Peter Gabriel song.

>>5440910
prog rock is definitely made for teenagers

>>5440757
>>5440857
>"I can't read so I'll know people are aware of YouTube's shenanigans, but I'll bait anyway to get (You)'s."
Made me reply.

Yea not too big of a fan of this song.

This was fully expected for me. Some singers are great with the live acoustic style of singing where they just jam out but can't recapture that magic in the studio. Gura is one of them. Her previous official songs and covers all had the same problem and it was clear to me that unless this was an acoustic ballad of sorts, it was probably going to me mediocre to forgettable.

Its OK though. This is Gura's first attempt at a real professional piece of work and she'll grow through it. She gets to get her one weird off-piece song off her chest to ground her back to reality. She seems genuinely proud of it too. I hope she reads some criticisms and takes it to heart but that it doesn't discourage her. And hopefully she isn't just told by everyone "omg great song!!!"

>>5440944
t。くmぶd

>>5440905
It doesn't do a great job of showcasing her incredible skills as a singer, that's true. That's just how the song is structured and composed. But you can still tell she's good, and the song does what it sets out to do, which seems to be an entirely different goal, that is, explore her story and her inner conflict and express stylistic sides of her that some people don't expect. It's a good track, it's not amazing, but I think it was a good choice for her first one.

>>5441019
Thats not how those kana are pronounced you LARPing wannabe nip.

>Pardon My Rudeness is a self-aware commentary on the inherent artifice of using moe aesthetic as a way of advancing your brand
>Hinotori is a song about continuing to pursue a dream after it has become so amorphous and vague that you are on the brink of giving up
>Reflection is about being a shark
Well at least it suits her

>>5441014
She will only see criticisms if she goes to 4chan or dig through the comments to get to those with 1 or 2 upvotes. The fact is that hololive gives an echo chamber of positivity where they will never have to reflect much of anything, and when rare negative stuff appears it's usually due to some concerted effort by antis so people distrust the negative stuff even further. There is very little place for honest criticisms that will help them grow in their hugboxes. Even 4chan is filled with ironic shitposts along the genuine criticisms.

>>5441084
テー。カムバッド エルエムおおおお

>>5441103
Imagine being this fucking dense

>>5441014
>And hopefully she isn't just told by everyone "omg great song!!!"

Too late because the vast majority of opinions are that it's a great song. A couple dozen posts on /vt/ are going to be drowned out by tens of thousands of praises.

And I also think it's a great song

>>5441131
>She will only see criticisms if she goes to 4chan
She's here all the fucking time and only retards aren't aware of it lol

It sounds like a boss battle theme in the beginning, then, at chorus, it aburply goes to other tone. Dunno, maybe it's the case, because "REFLECT", but I'd rather have it stay at battle theme mode.

>>5441103
Either you are a dense tourist or a crude baiter. Neither is good.

>>5436596
I think Gura would like WMBB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzLxHqijMl0

>>5440982
Best case scenario would be karaoke singing of Roundabout since it's the one 70's song that weebs know thanks to jojo's. It's not even close to being Yes' best song though.

>>5440245
>Hating Lunch with Me

You are both a nigger and a faggot.

>>5441182
And then it shifts again at the rap part. The changing style throughout the song is part of what makes it actually interesting compared to generic idol pop shit that infests most of hololive like a mindnumbing cancer and is also a perfect reflection (no pun intended, or maybe it was on Gura's part) of Gura's highly multi-faceted and chaotic personality. I think this song does a better job of capturing who Gura is as a person than most holo originals do for their performer.

>>5441181
I will take that with a grain of salt. Gura used to frequent 4chan, but their lives are pretty busy nowadays, like Ina no longer plays most of the gacha games she likes. Real life stuff makes people go away from 4chan, like I did for years.

>>5441211
It is a great song but you’re right in that it’s not their best, I don’t think any of them should attempt any Gabriel era genesis because let’s be frank, they don’t have the chops for it. If we could get King Crimson, frame by frame I think that could be good. Unfortunately while big in their own right, most prog rock bands don’t have the reach that they will want for songs in their karaoke.

>>5439665
It also depends on the type of music your singing. Using classical vowel sounds can come across as awkward for non-classical music - just watch Pavarotti's collaborations with pop singers. There are plenty of singers with "bad" technique (e.g. Bob Dylan) but everyone loves their voice anyway.

Incidentally, was your book Schirmer 24 Italian Songs and Arias? That's the one my teacher had me work with lol

>>5441264
It's different when this is the only place they can discuss vtubing anonymously which is pertinent to doing it. Reading the crowd so to speak. All of the EN girls are definitely here at various times. Probably not every day, but right after an important stream or premiere? You bet your ass they want to know what everyone is saying.

will Gura be good at epic, orchestral rock? Singing something similiar to Les Friction stuff.

>>5441316
*you're singing

>>5441351
Most rock music is sung with vocal distortion which Gura has shown absolutely zero ability to do and it's not something she should practice on her own without a coach because you can seriously fuck up your voice if you do it incorrectly.

>>5441332
> when this is the only place they can discuss vtubing anonymously
I agree. The weird downside of hugboxes is that they made 4chan a necessity just to get some honesty. This doesn't happen in other fandoms. Like Doom players would just complain about Hugo Martin right in the Doom facebook group where Hugo is.

>ancient Greek
HOLY FUCKING BASED

>>5439268
Mito sign up with a fricking record label. They're the one responsible of producing her shit same as Sora. Gura's and any other chuubas (non vsinger) selfproduced all their singles and covers.

>>5436972
>Mori is an unironic weeb
uh, but this conflicts with my personally held belief based on the voices in my head

>>5441415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQOJ8n76sys
I dream to hear her sing something in this area.

>>5440353
Opera chuuba would be kino.
https://youtu.be/5z39--ZYaes

>>5441316
>was your book Schirmer 24 Italian Songs and Arias
It most certainly was anon, the holy book by which all young singers train.
I agree with all your above points though, implementing full classical technique into pop music sounds incredibly strange, and out of place. But some extra rounding of her vowels would, I think, go along way.

>>5439503
Pretty good actually. She has the type of voice that fits cutesy bittersweet songs.

I think the song itself is good but it doesn't fit Gura's style. The beginning was cool but then it became generic imo.

it was okay, i wish it was more english, a bit of japanese sprinkled in would be fine. So far i think her toxic acoustic covers have been the best singing this little shark has done.

>>5441539
Yes lawd that’s the shit I want to see. Fuck that was awesome (if needing maybe a tad more depth)

>>5436596
Is it actually bad? I haven't listened yet but the preview sounded good.

>>5436596
Gura has a great voice, but this song doesn't take advantage of that at all. Multiple whispering and rapping sections, while the actual melodic parts are dead easy to perform for the non-tonedeaf. You can still hear the great vocal qualities in some individual notes, but this is really underwhelming in the context of even her karaoke performances.
It's not a bad song, but it's just a shame that it wasted the talent for whom it was written.

>>5436596
My question is why didn't they have an artist do the bare minimum animation transitions/animated lyrics that most vtubers do for original songs? If they did them for Kiara why not Gura? It song itself if not great but amimated visuals would certainly get the video more views.

>>5439660
True. Comparing voices is as dumb as comparing genre, it's all subjective. Comparing skills however could be objective, but hey, we all know opera singers has the highest skills but they aint the most enjoyable.

>>5441721
Aren't you used to Cover giving Kiara the fucking world and giving Gura nothing?

>>5441539
Can Gura even sing like this though?

>>5438892
Netorare is the thinking man's fetish

>>5441854
It wasnt cover u dumbass. All the girl commisioned their own ogs and covers. So it's by their own choice.

Bad Gura's part is fun and I wish the entire song was like it. Rest of the song is forgettable.

>>5441892
Reddits not a thinking man, anon.

Guys the more I listen to it the more I like it. I actually didn't really like it at first it was like a 5.5/10 now after listening to it 10+ times it moved into a 9/10. And I really like the lyrics to the song too.

>>5441892
netorare isn't a fetish, it's a cause for extermination.
it's also primarily aimed at girls.

>>5436596
Aight, I don't really like Gura but this shit slaps. She wins this time...

>>5441131
>where they will never have to reflect much of anything

>>5437152
no god fearing American would call themselves "westerner" faggot. youre just seething because EN runs this board

Too much autotune. Kiara can sing it better, Gura just cries and is lazy while Kiara is hardworking and deserves more recognition. If Kiara sang it, it will hit 1M easy. Gura is over rated.

>>5440910
Tenkyuu by Suisei counts as prog rock?

>>5442165
>Too much autotune
Not enough autotune. I want it to be good. I don't care if they have to pass it through 7 autotunes.

Now that she knows being a singer won’t work for her Gura can get into JAV.

>>5440944
>japanese
Yeah, honestly she pronounces japanese better than most of holoJP. She seems to be a natural at learning new languages. Must be a talent of hers.

Why is no one talking about Gura using her first original song to tell you all that she’s happy where she is and will never go back to her past self?

>>5441939
So is this just another case of Gura being a doormat/beta with mediocre taste hindering her potential?

>>5441014
There's nothing particularly wrong with this song beyond the recurring issue of Gura being drowned out by the backing track. That is not Gura's fault even if she were the one giving feedback on this since she doesn't have technical training to identify this as good or bad. The audio mixers that Cover has on call are simply terrible. All other faults are simply stylistic choices that are more fitting for the particular song, which in this case are warranted. It's electronic music, so you should expect people fucking with her voice for effects.

The real question is whether or not this is Gura's actual taste in music or just Cover throwing her a bone by giving her something not excessively Japanese like bubblegum pop or idol songs that the JPs and Kiara seem to love.

>>5442393
because it wasnt in english so none of us know what the song was actually about.

>>5440944
yea. I dare say Goora has better japanese than all of hololiveJP. Exactly why she has so many collabs with her foreign coworkers

>>5442436
Anon.... there is subtitles.

>>5442436
If only CC were a thing on Youtube

Imagine having an oshi that can’t sing lol that’s part of her job and she can’t do it.

>>5442393
Because everyone who knew HER knows thay she is a bitch that would abandon the shit she does if it was a bit of stressful. Like fucking hell. Why would she go back? She got lots of money. Got some new friends. Everyone is SUPER nice to her. Sure, she had to abandon and kill her old fanbase without a word. Like literally no announcement. Sure it was a bitch move but she don't care about that. Again, why the hell would she?

Guys I just realized something from this song. Gura talks to herself when she sees her reflection and that is what this song is mainly about.

>"this is the best singer in Hololive"
kusa

>>5436596
The song doesn't fit her voice at all.

I think all the qualms about mixing would be fixed if Gura had access to a proper recording studio instead of jerry rigging a soundproof closet

>>5442542
It's sad being a teamate isn't it?

Wow the whole is about how you should feel about bad about her

All of this discourse over shitty mid singing lol

>>5441182
>>5441249
It is less of a battle theme as much as it is an internal conflict song; a reflection of her state of mind. If this were an anime, this would be similar to the "evil twin" plot device where her abandoned former feral self constantly haunts her.

>bad mixing
You morons say this about every song that comes out, my lord.

Song was good. Her vocals are smooth and clean as usual, the beat was nice and intense when it needed to be. Also, judging by the lyrics this was deeply personal for her and that intimacy really adds to the overall performance. Loved it.

>>5436596
Disappointed it's in japanese and sounds like a generic weeb song. It's not bad but expected something different from her based on her karaoke choices. She can do some neat stuff with her voice but went with the safe electronic route.

>>5442542
They wouldn't have hired her if it was actually a problem. They specifically talked about that in her interview.

>>5436812
Honestly this.
The "pop" genre is composing a song in a way that masks as much of the singer's ability as possible, so for bad singers its a godsend but for Gura its shit. Shame that any criticism is completely deflected and bombarded from orbit in the current state of Hololive.

I think gura does better with more low key songs (like any of the acoustic versions she's done in streams) and when there is more vocal range (mostly up to highs). Song wasnt bad but i was hoping for more nice, cute gura singing

im just waiting for S.T.A.L.K.E.R bandit radio cover by Shishiro Botan

>>5442681
Since this is the same take as before I will just copy paste my reply >>5434081.

I think I'm about to go full schizo but I think I hear roommate voice from some of the feral Gura parts. Pretty interesting

Gura's song about self-reflection and her versus her evil persona will never be as good as this song about the persona and inner-self.
https://youtu.be/vYc5rQ6d4Ek

>>5442654
too many cumbuds are willing to defend mediocre singing by calling it good

>>5438485
This is what deadbraps actually believe

>>5436596
Unironically should have done a retro, citypop-inspired pop or ballad song instead. The song and lyrics are generic and borderline cringey.

>>5442823
It's almost like that's the point, or something...

>>5442824
Anon your lyrics comprehension reps..

>>5442791
You posted it again and again you are wrong.

>>5436596
i think she probably can sing it, but i can certainly understand why the song gives you the impression she can't. she sounds really awful with all that cheap autotune and other plugins slathered on all over the whole song. it's upsetting because the song has a lot of potential and it was ruined by the awful shitty effects.

>>5442934
If that is how much substance you want to address, then I'll just say you are wrong as well.

If you think Gura is so bad, give me an actual video proof for a chuuba that can actually sing better. Go on, I'm waiting.

>>5438592
I actually believe out of all of the Hololive girls Gura has the most doormat personality. She would be too scared to Say no to anything and would not raise any concerns when pressured to do something she herself does not want to do.

>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST SING IN JAPANESE
>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE ACTUAL MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND, IT'S "COVERING UP" HER SINGING
>NOOOO IT HAS TO BE LE EBIN SLOW FLY ME TO THE MOON-RIPOFF ACOUSTIC BALLAD SHIT AROUND THE CAMPFIRE SO I CAN MASTURBATE TO FUCKING CHILDREN
>NOOO COVER/MANAGERS/MIXER/KIARA/SATAN SABOTAGED HER

Did I sum it up

>>5442984
https://youtu.be/4knjZf6neh4

>>5443007
>Did I sum it up
No, you missed Susan in the sabotage bit

>>5438858
Sure, all of entertainment in the end is still subjective, however, completely deflecting criticism just because of that is nonsense. The song may jingles your jangle, but it is still apparent that it doesnt fully utilizes Gura's strengths.
It's like telling Chopin to play twinkle twinkle little star. Sure, he's going to nail it, but it fails to bring out any of his ability and skills

>>5442984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JmB1Jvnouo
Feel free to cope now.

>>5442984
>gura is so bad
Criticism of mixing is aimed at the mixer. Not the singer. In fact, the mixing is criticized because gura is good.
>actual video proof for a chuuba that can actually sing better
Step outside hololive and there are plenty. But do reply if you are honestly interested in learning more instead of just trolling which I consider you to be doing.

>>5443007
unironically yes

>>5442984
https://youtu.be/Qtp4h4KQGGM

>>5443065
Risu-sama... I kneel...

Song is a 8/10. Good job dum shark. First HoloEN song that I actually care to listen to more than once.

>>5439877
>How much Autotuned was used on Gura's voice
a lot. it's audible in every note she sings from the beginning of the song to the end. only speaking and rapping lines escaped it.

ironically, the "bad shark" lines sound more genuine to me because of the extra bitcrushing adding an organic sort of crunch to it. it's sad reversal of the intended aesthetic hearing the supposedly more "genuine" character rendered with the more robotic sound.

Imagine being >>5442480 levels of retarded that you conflate being able to correctly pronounce syllables for signing to being able to speak a language.

>>5442995
It's a bit sad but it's also interesting to see such a clear example of a doormat/"beta" personality in a successful streamer. It's not like Ina or Ame are the types that like to "take charge" like conventional leaders, but they both clearly know what they want and how to ask for it.

>>5443057
>Sure, all of entertainment in the end is still subjective, however, it fell short of my subjective metrics!
Well, I tried

I like the song. Maybe not because of the delivery, or the skill, but what it implies about her direction and state of mind. I'm sure anons who have better thoughts on music production can chime in on what needs improving. But yeah. I think it's good and it's okay to say it's good.

>Gura is unimpressive in every single cover she does
>M-MUH MIXER SABOTAGED HER! IT WAS MATSURI'S/KIARA'S FAULT!! JUST WAIT FOR HER ORIGINAL SONG, SHE'LL DO IT PROPERLY BECAUSE SHE IS LE PERFECTIONIST!!
>Gura is unimpressive in her first original song
>M-MUH MIXER...

God I love cumshart misery.

>>5443150
That anon's post was sarcastic - might want to get checked out for the 'tism, anon.

>>5439113
fuck no, i will drill my eardrums before i listen to that...

>barely over 500k views
It's a fucking flop, just take it down

>>5443007
Everybody says the same shit for every song. HUUUURRR BAD MIXING AND VOICE IS DROWNED OUT BY BACKING TRACK.

I'm convinced everybody here has shitty headphones or speakers, like really shitty. The song sounds really good. The main complaint I have is that it would be nice to have a Hololive ENGLISH song sung mainly in.......English. i don't think that is too much to ask. Loved the song though.

>>5443228
No, you see, Susan sabotaged her...

>>5441131
i left a very polite negative comment and basically felt like i was just releasing a post-it note into a tornado.

>>5443228
came here to say this. what's the deal?

I like the song, I'm gonna continue to like the song, and you niggers can't stop me

Gura can ride a beat in Japanese. That’s all I needed.

>>5443236
Cumsharts don't want an actual song, they just want acoustic Gura karaoke so they can masturbate to raping her and imagine that same voice screaming.
They unironically think MUSIC BAD INSTRUMENTS BAD EFFECTS BAD.

>>5443091
That isn't fair. Mouse is dying.

>>5443065
Risu is barely good. Below Gura for sure.

>>5443010
Generic jp shit. Next.

>>5443296
>copes as predicted
I won.

>>5442590
no, none of the problems with these vocal tracks have anything to do with her room acoustics or her equipment.

>>5439563
12pm Berlin Time
was 6am in NY...
People go to work anon and don't have time to spare to watch something they can do later

>>5443228
>>5443257
>>5443240
>it's at 600k

>>5443263
The only based answer in all this thread. Fuck people that say Gura is a master, fuck people that say Suisei is a master, fuck people that say Risu is a master. The reality is that nobody in Hololive can be considered professional singer except Sora and Azki

>>5443263
Nobody wants to stop you from liking it. This is just the board lashing out at cumbuds who've been inserting themselves into the conversation for ages, to insist that Gura has the best singing and she'll totally have the most views on her music once she actually releases an original song.

Like what you want to like. But if you were one of those fucks trying to stop other people from liking other things because Gura is totally better, then eat shit.

>>5443296
>generic jp shit
But that's the definition of what gura just did?
????
Cumchuds can't seriously be this unaware right?

>>5443236
>>5443280
Your inability to understand other people is your shortcoming, anon. It doesn't happen for every song. Neither is it about instruments being bad. I could easily link to vtuber non-ballad covers who don't suffer from the problem, but that would be giving your strawmen too much dignity. First you need to understand the points others are actually making.

>>5443341
>1 minute later
>610k
Gee, I wonder if the pausing of the count had anything to do with the current numbers

plz start coping people

>>5443206
I know that he was being sarcastic. The post that he was replying to indicated that she is able to sing in Japanese quite well, while his reply was about her not being able to speak the language (which wasn't even the point of the poster he was replying to).

>>5443434
>almost an anagram of Yagoo

>>5443434
This literally happens on every YT video uploaded for varying lengths, even on mine. Actually read the article posted instead of just the screencap, retardchama

haven't consumed EN holo since the debut but this song is actually pretty fucking good, not surprised retard secondary EOP subhumans don't like the song, really liked the greek parts. what is the instrument that sounds like the ukelele that preludes the greek parts? is it a traditional greek instrument?

>>5443470
i posted this for people who believe in YT view count accuracy, you are the retard here

>>5443296
>Generic jp shit
It's actually impressive how well this description fits Gura's song, given that she isn't even Japanese. But it's also nowhere near an accurate description of the linked video.

>>5436596
I don't like it and think she should be stoned to death
FUCK HOLOEN

>>5443510
You’re not fooling anyone, chumbud.

>>5443200
the problem here is certainly that the vocal mixing is awful. she sounds really dreadful. what's different this time is that it's hard to say it's anyone's fault but hers. unfortunately this also suggests that she was probably fine with how she sounded in the others, which is really sad, because she only sounded marginally better in those. i'm still very confident in her singing, because it's easy to hear her singing well in tons of live streams. this release has really made me doubt her musical judgement, because she should have heard that this sounds really, really wrong.

>>5443544
kys deadbeat

I like the song, myself. It sounds nice, but the lyric content is great. It's Gura arguing with her past self, about how she's changed and grown as a person but still feels like the 'old self' wants her to go back to being just a basic chaotic shitposter.

>>5443368
Speak for yourself. I am a chumbud with criticisms aimed at this specific song and mastering. Not some past tribal grievances which have no relation to the song.

>Idol makes an original song, pours her heart into it.
>HURDur NoT in ENGliSH
>2/3 of HoloEN songs are mixed language songs
why are you like this?

>>5443636
THIS
KIARA FUCKING MADE ONE IN GERMAN

>>5443636
It is almost like they want to have broader appeal than the EN fans who are already watching them anyway. Masaka that would be too big brain of them.
And the least of criticism.

>>5443179
If the world abide by your metric then its a world of mediocrity, since technically all of entertainment is subjective and Van Gogh coloring a color book is as comparable to Starry Sky. Who knows, a random anon might find the color book to be the most awe-inspiring thing in the world a thousand years later.

But then again, its my subjective view, lets agree to disagree and leave it at that.

>>5436812
Agree with this take.

Good song, but it could've been that good while sang by anyone. Her voice really opens up with slow acoustic ballad type.

I've already cum with the song in the background.
idk, I'll give it a 8/10, didn't contribute, THAT much.

>>5443716
But you don't get it, it's a mediocre song! Everything is mediocre, and I'm not just saying that because I'm a cynical asshole posting on a board full of cynical assholes!

>>5443544
apparently you fooled yourself

>>5443636
The non-English parts of EN songs are languages that the vocalist actually speaks. Calli actually speaks Japanese, even if not very well.

>>5441166
> And I also think it's a great song

That's fair. Just this really doesn't fit my personal tastes.

>>5442434
The mixing is awful that is true. But even looking past this I'm *personally* not a fan of this style of song.

Like I said though, I think this is fine even if I don't like it. Others might do. And looking at the lyrics and whatnot its clear Gura really wanted to get this off her chest and get the message across. This seems to fit part of her tastes in music too. I just like her more city-pop stuff rather than this.

>>5441014
>She gets to get her one weird off-piece song off her chest to ground her back to reality
I can't wait for her second song to be like this too and your realization that your boring acoustic ballad garbage will never fucking happen.
Cumsharts are so retarded lmao.

>>5444108
In case it sooths your retardation, those boring things are her most viewed singing clips, and they are already out there, usually duplicated too. So they already happened, but don't let me ruin your idiocy.

>>5441264
Nah, they are definitely here sometimes, some of the jokes here gets leaked out and some things line up way too much to be coincidence.
One example was the sudden increase in egg puns during their outfit reveals. Like 4/5 of them randomly mentioned eggs.

>>5443434
That's exactly what happend around 2.5 hours after the song premiered. It got stuck at 493k until about 45 minutes ago.

>>5443584
I can't tell if this is her musical judgement and that she genuinely likes it or if she's afraid to voice some of her disappointments. Should've had Calli mix it lol. I don't really like Calli's songs either but I can respect the production value.

Gura is a bit of a weird case. I haven't really seen her hate any songs or genres necessarily outright. She seems to be able to in take anything and be "that's pretty cool!". Even with games I haven't seen her really hate anything outright.

But if Gura is proud of this, I'm happy to support her. Hopefully she plays to her strengths in the future aka ballad type songs.
Imagine Gura singing Moon's Ai no Chiisana Uta or something similar. I'd nut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4N7EhUWOAA

>>5444216
>a-a-actually t-they already happened!!
Nice cope but I'm still right and when the 2nd song releases and it is inevitably proven, you will remember this and realize I've just raped your entire existence with a single post, dumb cumshart. See ya then.

>>5444288
>But if Gura is proud of this, I'm happy to support her.
i can understand if that's what you want to do, but instead i am going to to what she specifically told me to do, which is to like or dislike it on its merits, not just based on the fact that it's hers. and i don't like it.

>>5444341
holy chuunitism

>>5436812
I am sorry bro, but Cover is never going to release a song that lets Gura's voice shine completely. Nips are too obsessed with having every vocalist getting an autotuned robot voice. See: Morika's spiral tones. The acoustic cover they did before release was an AMAZING song but then the release sounds like soulless trash because management insisted that they autotuned the life out of it.

I think it's best that you guys learn to accept that Gura will never have an official song release that's even as good as an average karaoke stream. I hate it too, Gura has the best voice in all of Hololive. She needs a song like Moona's but eliminate the autotune.

>>5444352
I think you misunderstand me. I don't like this song but I can support the message she's trying to get across in the song and moving on as a person. Its good to see growth.

>>5444288
>Even with games I haven't seen her really hate anything outright.
amogus...

>>5438013
This, I feel the same way.

>>5444545
well, here, i extracted and deduplicated the english subtitles.

https://pastebin.com/JET7Y5nE

Why are the bass frequencies so low?

>>5436596
I missed the premier. I was sleeping. :(
This song is a mixed bag for me.
Some parts are great, other parts are 'huh?'
I think this style is a good pick for her first original song
since it does define her character, both flaws and strengths.
She did put an emphasis on how important the first release is,
so she's probably saving her meme and slow songs for later releases,
which is understandable.
This is not a song that I'd play on loop,
but it's something that I want to go back from time to time to reminisce her storyline.

7.5/10 - it has a little something for everyone

>>5444288
>Should've had calli mix it
Mori doesn't mix her tracks

>>5441892
>actually liking "oh no, your husband is calling while we are having sex, you better pick up the phone but don't let him catch on" the genre

>>5444523
What if Gura takes things into her own hand instead of waiting for cover to "HELP HER OUT"?

>>5444815
>>5444523
You guys know that cover doesn't involve themselves on music unless they produce it like the bloom songs right? They don't even pay for them, at best they introduced gura to the people who would help her but she still approved of the song herself

>>5443617
It also feels like the kind of internal reflection of someone who struggles with anxiety. How they constantly judge themselves and their decisions under a bad light, how they're not ideal and even if they reach that ideal then they'll find something else to be anxious about and never be happy with themselves. Never finding a middle ground. The lyrics are great.

worst part of this song is its forgettable. it sounds like every low budget anime song i've ever heard.

10/10, fantastic song. I love how it travels places instead of being some bland pop hit in it's entirety, even when it's written as one. It's very Metalcore at heart, something akin to While She Sleeps/Architects or In This Moment, replacing guitars with a more party beat.
I expected something cute and safe, but this is fantastic.

>>5445082
>they introduced gura to the people who would help her
and that was all it took.

>>5438698
>h-high notes
singing isn't a fucking rhythm game, there's more to it than hitting notes

>>5444019
>the vocalist actually speaks
way to diss Callie's singing ability

>>5445410
exactly, i think people were to hyped into listening to a song like from her karaoke streams

>>5442275
If we're going to slap shit tons of autotune on it we might as well get miku to sing it

>>5445410
you have no idea what metalcore is

>>5445444
If she wasn't a loser that refuses to make connections then she could just contact a good mixer/writer/composer herself, or if she wasn't a doormat then she could just tell the ones they introduced to her exactly what she wants if it isn't to her liking

>>5446006
>If she wasn't a loser that refuses to make connections then she could just contact a good mixer/writer/composer herself, or if she wasn't a doormat then she could just tell the ones they introduced to her exactly what she wants if it isn't to her liking
a ratt right 'ere

>>5445410
I agree. Absolutely amazing song with powerful emotions as she open up, something everyone knows Gura has a lot of difficulty with. It deserves all the praise and attention that it's currently getting.

>the English is cringe
I love how monolinguals are revealing that they don't speak a word of JP. All of the lyrics are cringe, you just don't cringe at the parts you don't understand. You know, the Japanese.

retards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feTpmMRah3g

>>5446006
unfortunately this is the truth.

>>5446173
>I love how monolinguals are revealing that they don't speak a word of JP. All of the lyrics are cringe, you just don't cringe at the parts you don't understand. You know, the Japanese.
oggey

Anyone want to give me free you's?

https://youtu.be/dQQNL1Iv_EM

not really no

I like the song but I don't have any opinions about Gura being part of it since I don't really watch her. I prefer this sort of anisong over idolshit though.

>Returned to the thread to see if there had been any more actually interesting discussion about Gura’s singing and the song itself
>there hadn’t
Sounds about right.

I don't have a twitter but I want to know what, if anything, the JP senpais thought of the song. please spoonfeed me twitter links

reminds me of Lost World from Sonic Adventure

>>5446006
I wonder if she door matted the rigging too.

>>5444108
she's already said the songs she was working on were all of varying genres. you wouldnt know that though because you dont watch shit

>>5439462
it's over 780k now.

nice song you got there cumfarts...
pfft...

>>5439462
>>5447369
Hoping for 1 Mil in <12 hrs, definitely expecting it before 24 hrs.