/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>54289820
>No Hype
>all member already 100k sub before debut

ok kiara keep seething

>>54289930
Anon, stop, be respecfull of tempus fan.

>>54290458
Subs before debut doesn't actually translate to viewership though

>>54289930
>Fpbp

And its confirmed.

Yes, vtubing now is a saturated market, and in a world where there's less attraction to it now that the pandemic is over, but Hololive has already established a niche for themselves. And with how well the EN concert did, now would be the best time to debut the new gen

>>54289820
Waiting for Go Go Nippon to graduate to recruit them was worth the wait.

>>54290557
Anon, stop being irrespecfull of tempus fan please.

Dont use my wife's picture for your stupid shitposts.

>>54289820
Yes, the iron has gone cold, I see nothing that this gen could do that would undo the damage. Cover seems out of touch now, like any other corporation

>>54289930
EN3 will get 200k subs before they even debut but the overall EN vtuber market is a fraction of what it was during the early days of Myth. No matter how talented they are reaching 1m subs will take years. They will also get dragged into the debate over Tempus collabs much sooner than any of the previous gens.

>>54289820
2020. someone power up the time machine.

>>54289930
Those are the 100k that still care about EN at all. Sad.

>>54289820
Hanging on to 'shoulds' is weak.

Can't believe how dumb this thread and the people here are.
I expected nothing more I guess.

>>54289820
Their designs are uninspired and people know they're just going to overlap the same timeslots, and aren't going to cure the current dead hours. The only interesting thing are the twins.

>>54289820
Inb4 Tempiss bad

>>54289820
Keep seething Kiara

>>54289820
What does it matter? They're HoloEN; they'll be a blowout success regardless.

>>54289930
Don't jinx it, numbers will probably be culled

>>54296325
Tempus wasn't

>>54297995
Tempus isn't part of the conversation

>>54297995
Tempus for fags

>>54295273
>ctrl+f tempus
>6 matches
???? Why is this board like this. I've never seen a thing brought up on such a regular basis, ad nausium, for supposedly something people want gone and nothing to do with.

>>54299793
Some people have cock on the brain. It's very sad. Tempus are pretty much irrelevant. The fact that its been 6 months and none of the girls - not even the Baes and Kroniis - have collabed with Tempoop shows a huge change of strategy.

I prefer the wait in hindsight. I would hate to see what the Gen 3 girls would be like when the management team that dropped Tempus was still in charge.

>>54290677
>Niche
I know what you're trying to say, but its not a niche, its a dominant market share.

>>54300267
Yes, following the proven model of JP where they pretty much ignore Stars and let them build their own fanbase instead of trying to force them onto the existing holo fanbase.

>>54301094
nta, the niche is that there are people who only watch hololive, people who genuinely think that there are no other vtubers outside of holomems.

>>54289820
Yeah no shit nigger, anybody who wasn't retarded knew this from the start

>>54299793
Like it or not, Tempus changed everything forever. Some fanbases literally ruptured in half.

>>54299793
>>54300267
Tempus is an important part of the conversation. Not because of the collabs, but rather the decision making processes made
by the Tempus shill team over the past year which clearly caused problems back in the home offices. Hololive Production clearly oversold the value of Tempus and the poor results probably caused a shake up behind the scenes if Kiara was to be believed. Having the exact same team behind Tempus in charge of picking and recruiting actual Hololive talents would be a nightmare.

>no hype
>#1 trending worldwide

all this doomposting about hololive hype waning when kobo reached 2m in around 1 year

>>54302778
It'll never wane. /vt/ will just change the narrative. Doomposting is hard and requires creativity.

>>54302778
Something feels off with this one. I want them to succeed but the hype is a lot less than previous generations and they're introducing them at the start of summer.

>>54303094
Did you fail to see the two posts above yours that says they're #1 trending?

>>54289820
You don't known what a hug box is do you?

>>54289820
Are any suspected of being Eurozone? Or Kiara still alone?

>>54303145
It's great that they're trending number 1, but it's weird to ignore that the hype is substantially less than council. And they'll be competing for summer viewers, which is already going to see drops for all of them. They're trending like they always do but their metrics are lower. I'm not ignoring that.

>>54302335
Honestly, all of the picks for Tempus are solid except for Vesper and Flayon, if I had to pick male streamers to be Vtubers I'd have chosen them as well. They are all talented, driven, and generally stay out of trouble.
Vesper is an engaging talent but just keeps causing trouble and avoiding responsibilities meanwhile Flayon... has a real talent for pissing away goodwill and trying people's patience all while not offering engaging streams in return.

>>54303424
Their metrics are actually about the same. In fact, Nerissa and the doggos hit 100k faster than anyone in Council did, and I don't think Council ever hit #1 trending. So, again, I think you're being disingenuous.

>>54289820
cool bait thread OP

>>54289820
At least there's still hype within the hugboxes, look at the new nijiEN wave. Already 3view within the first week.

>>54289930
Most of those are dead subs, anonchama because none of them know if they'll like a girl or not, they only sign up for the blue dorito. I want to know what it's like a month after release, if this gen has any staying power.
Based on the rrats I heard about their PLs, only the singer and twins have any chance of organic numbers gains.

>>54304005
>based on the rrats
That's your metric for success? Unverifiable rumors made by ESLs that hate everything that's better off than themselves? You're a clown.

>>54304063
If a person is boring and unremarkable before they got the blue dorito, they'll be boring and unremarkable after.

>>54304367
But you don't know who they are. Just because some anonymous dipshit on /vt/ said they're a person doesn't mean they are. You should at least wait to hear their voices before you start churning the rumormill.

>>54289820
(You)

>>54304497
Most of them have been identified. Rumors with substance, not just baseless rrats.

>>54304814
I've seen no such evidence. I've seen a shit ton of wild speculation.

>>54303504
Hololive was trending though the individual group name didn't. Council did hit above 100k around this time, they also had issues with subs being removed because of that though due to suspicious activity which reduced them. I'm not being disingenuous. I'm excited but I'm worried.

>>54304886
If you say so.

>>54290761
That makes sense. Worth it.

>>54304005
Blue dorito, dear nijisister, is a quality mark. I have never been let down by anyone in hololive.

>>54290458
>randomly bringing up tempus
why?

>>54290458
dick obsesed

>>54289820
Yes they should have, but they decided to go with tempus instead, personally i blame en management and to a lesser extent Yagoo.

Obviously they should have debuted in 2022. Tempiss was a complete failure and it shows everyday that they stream. They wasted a year trying to integrate 8 unwanted, unpopular, boring faggots instead of giving the vast majority of the fanbase what they actually wanted. Better late than never at least.

>>54289820
maybe

>>54289820
Honestly Yes, and tempus should have debuted a few months after myth, with tempus 2 debuting around the same time as uproar. The one thing they did right was debut an EN branch before niji did. All they did was get niji male scraps and have schizo meltdowns because they created western unicorns early on. Then debuting males that far in and not new girls only worsened the problem. People where already fucking off naturally, but the order they did things only made them fuck off faster. New girls will probably bring some people back but for others, too little to late.

>>54294952
Just another day in /vt/ anon.