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What do we think of their designs? They all have black and white as the base colour which looks kinda dull to me.

>> No.54259436

>>54259176
Shiori has the best model
Nerissa is just Yor
Bijou looks like an indie
I like the blue twin more than the pink one

>> No.54259534

I genuinely dont like any of them.
Bland.

>> No.54259580

>>54259176
sex
sex
creepy sex
sex
sex

>> No.54259628

>>54259176
Are these the new niji girls?

>> No.54259637

>>54259176
The loli has bigger head than Matsuri
The two "cool" ones looks like a arknights character
The older twin looks like a blue archive character
Just the younger twin looks good

>> No.54259894

>>54259580
This

>> No.54259891

>>54259176
What are the artists?
references?

>> No.54259922

from left to right:
1. for the mama fetish faggots, seem like will speak as a calm character.
2. for those that like moe and oppai
3. dont stick your dick in crazy, cool and loud archetype, for goth girlfriend fags.
4. for those that like moe and pettan
5. loli? or loli voice

>> No.54259956

>>54259176
Twins are the best
Bijou is a gacha character
other two look too dreary

>> No.54259966

>>54259176
>we

>> No.54260003

>>54259176
Shiori is the best one
Nerissa's face is kinda wonky, I am also not a fan of her hairstyle
the others are ok, nothing crazy

>> No.54260012
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>>54259176

>> No.54260065

dogs are cute
the loli better be a hag

>> No.54260066

>>54259628
nah, niji are busy graduating.

>> No.54260119

I like the twins because they are easy to draw

>> No.54260142

>>54260065
>the loli better be a hag
Yes but a real hag. Like 65

>> No.54260195

>we

>> No.54260225

>>54259176
I like the twins and the creepy eyes

>> No.54260256

>>54259176
too damn generic, and I'm pretty sure there's no artist who would say no to cover's job offer, so I don't understand why they wouldn't hire better artist.

>> No.54260278

>>54260012
I want to fix her

>> No.54260328

>>54260142
I once dreamed Botan was 80 or so and she was still my oshi

>> No.54260335

>>54259176
very boring, but the twins are kind of cool I guess. If they were solo they'd be very bland. better hope they have amazing rigging and toggles I suppose.

>> No.54260340

>>54260142
I'll take it

>> No.54260355

>>54259176
>Gacha mommy
>boob dog
>it's not a phase mom
>belly dog
>Okay friend, let me explain something to you since you seem to be new here. Hebephilia is NOT the same thing as pedophilIa. I'm sick and tired of you trolls popping up everywhere and spreading BLATANT misinformation. In many countries hebephilia is considered normal and healthy . Human beings have a natural attraction to girls who are going through puberty. Being attracted to girls who are pre-pubescent is fucking sick and disgusting, but only in the US does there seem to be an unwarranted taboo around a healthy and normal condition. My head hurts. I'm just trying to get my real life back.

>> No.54260401
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>>54259176
The twin's shoes are sexy. Reminds me of Kobo's, but better. Like you can actually wear those things and I want a pair.

>> No.54260449

>>54259176
The loli's tits are WAY too big

>> No.54260480
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54260480

>>54259176
They look very generic like there was a very vague design brief that just said "MAKE EN 3". I haven't got a clue what the theme is supposed to be anyways but I'm not a fan. Myth theme is obvious and so is Council. This misses the mark entirely I can't tell if it's music centered or like a secret society or paranormal or chunibyo.

The artists (and Cover) really missed hard with these. Making something iconic is hard (think OG Marine, Gura, or Coco) but it feels like they didn't really try.

I can't really explain this but in /o/ terms they look like the new Mercedes E-class. Supposed to look good because of the badge but really it's just a pile lazy design trends haphazardly thrown together. They probably look good enough but won't ever age well.

>> No.54260645

>>54259176

1st one is just a "What if Kronii and Hakka had a baby?"
2nd is your just generic big coat + here is my skimpy outfits since I'm the sexy one
3rd is "Look how much of an edgy goth I am!"
4th is the "tee hee, I'm the cute little sister and sporty/ spunky"
5th is the only semi-unique feeling one.

>> No.54260655

Shori looks like someone that just got hooked on tar recently and is already starting to do questionable things for a hit, but hasn't been using long enough to look like a worn out skaghead.

This is my fetish.

>> No.54260668

>>54259176
Shiori is good if not for the stupid two tone hair. Would prefer all black or all white.
I was never a fan of animal girls so even if I do like the twins design, they get minus points for that.
Nerissa and Bijou have kinda bad bottom halves but still prefer them over the others. Would look great in art.

>> No.54260681

>>54259534
I feel the same way. Why did every design have to use white or black? It definitely adds cohesion to the branch, but the cohesion just makes them all look bland and uninteresting.

>> No.54260695

>>54260335
They are confirmed to not be solo, go to their channel

>> No.54260716

>>54259176
potential with new costume/2.0 etc
twins are relatively milquetoast but it's ok especially if it's both of them at once.
middle one is my favorite
fucking Taric loli

>> No.54260774

>>54260645
>Hakka
OP asking for thoughts on design, not homobeggar seethe.

>> No.54260843

>>54259176
Asymmetrical leggings aside (seriously this needs to fuck off yesterday) they're all solid. They're the most excited I've been for with pre-debut vtuber designs in about a year.

>> No.54261094

>>54259176
>every gradation of black and white the gen
meh

>> No.54261208

>>54259176
So far EN3 will have the worst designs to date, so they better have the greatest personalities and voice or they'll end up being 3 views after the honeymoon hype is gone. I can already tell the Twins will trade blows with Ollie for worst numbers.

>> No.54261291

>>54259176
Only 1st and 3rd catches my eye. The rest is easily forgettable.
1st is likely going to be assigned to carbon copy of Kronii or Fauna.
2nd and 4th look like generic moe shit, so I expect them to try and pull Ame or Gura.
5th looks like discount Fauna.
>>54260774
Can you be more ironic?

>> No.54261318
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54261318

>>54259176
Legally pedophile here.
Regarding bijou's design, it give anya's vibes.
Which mean, not a strong pedo bait.
Well, gotta wait for her voice.

>> No.54261342

kronii 2.0
my mom's fubuki
meloco kyoran
fatto catto on a diet
hana flores

>> No.54261485

No furry coat for the fifth one? Even the first one has furry sleeves.

>> No.54261570

>>54259176
Crazy bitch is the best.
I don't really care about the rest, they're shit

>> No.54261642

>>54260480
Even their lore is kinda weak, seems like they kinda wanted to make titans/demons geting out of their imprisonment but would not commit to it fully on their designs

>> No.54261656

>>54259176
The loli is good
the twins are 10/10 and the best designs EN has gotten since Myth
The other two girls are over designed and too dark and detailed, their art style might not work well for a vtuber and their expression range might be rather limited as a result.
Also the girl with the biggest tits not showing them at all is a big missed opportunity, she should have at least a small hole on her shirt or something.
So overall 3/5 are good

>> No.54261694

there are indies with higher quality models and designs lol

>> No.54261698

>>54259176
Artist?

>> No.54261756
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54261756

>>54260012

>> No.54261758

>>54260480
really? It's as simple as toning down all that black

>> No.54261859

>>54261756
whose voice?

>> No.54261994

>>54259176
I fucking love long black hair and wanna sex the one on the right

>> No.54262595

Shio and Ner should have had more color contrast.

>> No.54262922

Honestly not amazing, but still definitely better than my initial impression of Council's design.

>> No.54262930

>>54259176
Chuuni as fuck. Dogs are the best.

>> No.54262935

>>54259176
Dull for your zoomer ass who's used to saturated yt thumbnails.

>> No.54262957
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54262957

>>54261756
That's made me change my mind

>> No.54263175

>>54261342
>hana flores
does anon know?

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54263201

in the vwiki, all the members have backgrounds corresponding to their base color. these new members will just have black, purple and blue. kek

>> No.54263270

>>54259176
SEXOOOOOOOO they are clearly meant to look similar to HoloX with their darker colorscheme and contrast with previous generations which were much more rainbow colored

>> No.54263347

>>54259580
>creepy sex
She's the best.

>> No.54263375

>>54259176
I like the twins more but they're all good
It's breaking the tradition though, the color palettes are too similar within the same gen

>> No.54263408

Ravencroft has the best design. Basically black-haired Suigintou.

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>>54263201

>> No.54263526

>>54259176
another kronii
the bad twin
sex
the good twin
boring

>> No.54263537

>>54263444
grim

>> No.54263590

>>54259176
good enough

>> No.54263609

>>54259176
Pretty dull desu. Too safe.

>> No.54263846

>>54263444
Since Koseki seems like a princess type character, I think Beryl is Mococo because I think that character would best fit Beryl's personality type.

>> No.54263853
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54263853

>>54263444
>these names

>> No.54263865

>>54259580
>creepy sex
Ah, waking up gagged and strapped to her bed.
Getting yelled at for even acknowledging another woman's existence.
Having her name carved into your pubic area.
Good times, good times.

>> No.54264189

Better Kronii
SEX
Too dark designed for me
SEX with dumb looking claws
Too loli for me

>> No.54264342

They're alright, I like Shiori's design best so far.
I think the names are lame, Most Holo EN are short and easy to remember these sound like Harry Potter characters.

>> No.54264421

Myth>Advent>Council in terms of designs.

>> No.54264448

>>54264342
Try pronouncing Ina's full chuuni name.
People will just abbreviate them shortly.

>> No.54264520

>>54260328
I once met an 80 year old with a perfect figure and fake tits.

>> No.54264538

>>54263846
>Beryl
>Mococo
elnosabe

>> No.54264546

>>54259176
>They all have black and white as the base colour which looks kinda dull to me.
Agreed, especially after how colourful Myth and CouncilRyS looked.
Maybe the idea is that these are their ”prison clothes”, which is why they are so muted?

>> No.54264590

>>54260355
I understand.

>> No.54264604

>>54259176
The book is Crossick's child

>> No.54264806

>>54263444
>4/5 are full Japanese names
>4/5 are generic designs
Disappointed

>> No.54265356

>>54259534
Same. These designs are not bad, but they look generic.

>> No.54265495

They're all too busy

Naturally they don't get to choose so I'm reserving judgement for their first new outfits

>> No.54265741

>>54259176
The first from right look weird.
Not Sana level, but compared to other 4 look

My favorite is the one with headphone and not Kroni.
I love their outfit.

>> No.54265762

>>54259176
Are the twins going to stream as one vtuber at the same time, or have two channels but one twitter? I'm thinking a single channel where they both stream might be kind of cumbersome.

>> No.54265823

>>54261756
where is this audio from?

>> No.54265898

>>54265762
They probably already share same gaming room.

>> No.54266001

>>54259176
Nah black and white is always clean. Love their designs.

>> No.54266029
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>>54259891
>Nerissa
kim eb
Morina Kazaki (Nijisanji JP), Viri Sylvaine (Haven-X)
Azur Lane and Girls' Frontline artwork
>Fuwawa and Mococo
icomochi
Sumirezaki Rin (Voice-ore)
minor artwork for Nijisanji, Azur Lane and Arknights
>Shiori
Kayahara
Sukoya Kana (Nijisanji JP), Seto Miyako (Nijisanji JP)
a few craft essences for F/GO, lots of lesser artwork for a few franchises + Fuji Aoi
>Kouseki
Kitada Mo
no previous vtubers, at least none that I'm aware of
Breeze (Arknights), lots of artwork for Azur Lane and a few other franchises

It's not the same kind of blast as for Council, but it's not as terrible as Tempus either. I'm certainly looking forward to Shiori.

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>>54259176
Oh fuck, that is the face of someone who will creep in the shadows, waiting for an unsuspecting anon to pass by and hop on him for life threatening menhera sex.

>> No.54266112

>>54266029
>brings up holostars unprompted

>> No.54266192

>>54265898
SAME BEDROOM
SAME CLOTHES
SAME TAMPONS

>> No.54266343

>>54259176
Meh

>> No.54266369

>>54259176
Look like some small corpo, indie twitchtuber designs

>> No.54266398

>>54263846
retard

>> No.54266448
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54266448

>>54266112
suddenly i'm not allowed to discuss art here?

>> No.54266492

>>54259176
Some look like arknights characters or from other gacha games.
First impresion is decent but not incredible, still needs to see the models in motion.
Most of them will grow on people over time.

>> No.54266505

>>54259534
Kinda same honestly. Nothing against them, I'm sure they'll be entertaining enough upon debut but I'm kinda already looking forward to their second outfit, these just feel meh

>> No.54266509

>>54259176
They look like nijisanji designs if im being honest, do not like.

>> No.54266562

>>54266509
I'll honestly give niji some credit here and say their designs are usually at least more colorful than these ones to be honest.

>> No.54266588

>>54259176
Dogs feel a bit simplistic (not terrible or anything, just not really doing anything for me), far left is alright but feels kinda overdone in terms of both colour scheme and the type of outfit itself (though I suppose after this many talents and alternate outfits it's sort of hard to come up with anything that feels "fresh"). Probably like the middle the most sans some of the excess accessories, and the one on the right is perfectly fine. Pretty sure like I'll like it more once it's in some kind of alternative outfit though, the whole gem fairy/princess look feels a bit out of place in terms of theme when compared to the other four.

>> No.54266654

>>54259176
Right one is just a updated Luna.

>> No.54266695

>>54263865
anon...?

>> No.54266776

>>54259176
Meh on all 5.

Just be funny (Koseki be cute and funny) and play Sonic games, that's enough for me.

>> No.54266777

>>54261756
motherrrrr....

>> No.54266818

>>54266562
>he says this when the last 6 waves get picked up as AI generated

>> No.54266890
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>>54264604
>Tomoe becomes a futa
>Mating presses Sukoya
>Forgets to wear a condom
>Gets pregnant
>Gone for 9 months
>Two barely speak or stream because they're angry about accidentally having a child
>They give child to Yagoo for adoption
>Sou desu nee

>> No.54266896

>>54259176
If jackets can come off then its an easy 8/10 overall, although with Ravenbooty maybe everything should come off except the gloves

>> No.54266939

>>54259176
All five of them are sex even the flat cat. But they don't have a popping, attention grabbing design like Kiara and Bae. I can see many outfits feeling like a downgrade from their original design.

>> No.54267051

>>54266192
Same boyfriend (ME)

>> No.54267288

>>54259176
the twins look the most hololive-esque
all the way on the right is a bit too moe-fied, her head is massive when compared to the other members with different styles
middle and far left have a little bit too much going on. it's a meme but it's on point to say they're very edge-lord like
twins' design definitely the best out of the bunch in terms of simple-ness and having an aura that's most like what hololive's brand is.

will need more time to see how each voice fits each character. it still took quite a bit of time to look at kronii and see anything other than saber but blue

>> No.54267683

>>54267288
Right's head looks even bigger because she's a gnome but in the image they've been stretched and equalized.

>> No.54267936

>>54260681
its EN's edgelord gen

>> No.54268041

>>54259176
Honestly, a little underwhelming.
They aren't terrible like iRyS 1.0, but they aren't that good. I hope they have good personalities and voices.

>> No.54268208

>>54266695
:D

>> No.54268227

>>54260401
The shoes do look perfect to go on holo journeys with.

>> No.54268407

>>54267936
This. It's HoloXEN

>> No.54268468

>>54259176
Pretty different from Council, who each had their distinct and obvious colour scheme with little overlap. But I like it with the theme they're using.

>> No.54268514

only the twins will be good. real idol shit ok.

>> No.54268568

>>54259176
The one on the far left will eventually get an outfit that shows a lot of cleavage, making every heterosexual man cum instantly.

>> No.54268640

>>54259176
I think they're great desu
Twins are cute as fuck.
Bijou is cute as fuck.
Shiori is hot.
Nerissa is a sexy blue mommy.

Love all of them

>> No.54268654

>>54259176
Reminder that veetee was assblasted about holox designs looking "too much like nijisanji". This boards opinion isn't worth shit.

>> No.54268764

>>54268654
Same goes for the nijisisters that kept calling the male leaks fake and AI generated

>> No.54268788

>>54259176
I like the dogs, but everyone else is kinda underwhelming and the samey color scheme on them all is pretty disappointing. No terrible standouts like Myth or council though, which is nice, but still the weakest designs overall.

>> No.54268810

>>54259176
>goth/punk girl
>doggo twins
>emo hag
>civia but smaller

i definitely like these, they remind me of the style used for the holoCN designs, which were pretty good

>> No.54268814

8/10
4/10
9/10
4/10
0/10 nice try feds, I'm not falling for your child fucker pedo bait

2 of them have great design, says nothing about stream quality of course, but I have high hopes until proven wrong

>> No.54268932

>>54268654
On one hand I can understand wanting to go back to the simplicity of the first few JP gens. Those are just timeless designs and we don't get that any more from pretty much any company.
On the other, niji literally has 200+ vtubers and there are thousands of other vtubers in existence. Obviously new vtubers coming out now are going to have superficial similarities to other existing ones.

>> No.54269030

>>54263865
I'm about to fucking nut

>> No.54269537

>>54260355
perfect lmao

>> No.54269670

>>54267288
agreed (expect maybe that kronii part)

>> No.54270020

>>54259176
I'm extremely bothered by asymmetric fishnet sock on the blue one when the pink one wears a pair.

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>>54259176
Nerissa and Shiori are top tier and really appeal to my tastes.
That said they are a far cry from the heights of Myth and I don't understand why they never managed to replicate it

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for the goth girl idk if the two tone hair was a talent input or cover idea but gosh wish they gave her a bit more mature look like this oc from the illustrator

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Black and White color themed Vtubers?
Skunk Squad Idols gooooo

>> No.54270301

asymmetrical horns look fucking stupid

>> No.54270337

>>54270221
The models for Council were pretty good, except for Bae's. Especially Kronii's and Fauna's. Kronii hid her model away like an angry tranny while Fauna made good use of hers.

This gen is like the HoloX of EN. And I'd say every single one of this models is pretty fucking good.

>> No.54270468

>>54270278
what is this disgusting Priconne clone

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>>54270255
we are this close to have the queen of hag

>> No.54270499

>>54259176
I think they all look great. Shiori being my absolute favorite. EN 3 has brought me back into the fold and I'm a giga holofag again.

>> No.54270559

>>54260012
Gorgeous

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>>54270468
I dunno, I just found the webm and thought it was funny. Have Watabutt as penance for my deeds and actions.

>> No.54270720

>>54266029
aaaaaanddd that's why you always need clear direction as an artist or politely tell your client his ideas suck and that your are the artist in charge.

Literally all the designs before shiori were better.

>> No.54270732

>>54270499
I wasn't even into Vtubers and EN 3 has shoved me in.

>> No.54270834

>>54259176
Lack of feet is a major L especially since we need to make up for Sana's loss but good fucking lord shiori sexo

>> No.54270877 [DELETED] 

>>54270834
kill footfags, rape footfags, burn footfags, crush footfags

>> No.54271137

>>54270877
>kill footfags
with feet
>rape footfags
by feet
>burn footfags
with feet smell
>crush footfags
>

>> No.54271182

>>54259176
>two fluffy tails
>menhera center stage
Nice. I wonder how much of that "menhera" is going to be keyfabe this time around.

>> No.54271235

>>54259176
they look kinda boring, maybe because im just seeing it but... not bad but none look all that great + phase blue loli way cuter, this blue lady just looks overdesigneed

>> No.54271272

>>54271182
Like someone said on her intro video, the edgier and cooler the design, the dorkier girl behind will be.

>> No.54271278

>>54266448
More like not allowed to mention any trace of male which is stupid. Mega stupid.

>> No.54271336

>>54266890
Sukoya...a mother...

Yeah, I do like her and she's one of the few NijiJP I remember the name of.

>> No.54271363

>>54259176
i think each design in a vacuum(with the exception of the twins since they fit better together) looks great
but as a unit they look really bland with all of them sharing black and white as their primary color and multiple of them sharing the same secondary color
crystal loli has everyone's secondary color(pink, purple and blue) which makes it so that blue is shared between 3 members, 4 if we count the purple leaders blue feather(she really should've been red)

>> No.54271392

what happens when one of the twins vtubers graduates and the other doesn't?

>> No.54271400

>>54264806
In what world do you live that Novella and Abyssgard are Japanese names?

>> No.54271525

>>54271400
I think they were referring to first names.

Remember, all of EN3 have western format names like...gasp!...Tempus.

...inb4 Homobeggar/fag/cuck/whathaveyou

>> No.54271581

>>54266448
If you're not used to the HL community since 2021, this is how it is.

>> No.54271632

>>54264806
You're 4/5 of a retard, anon.

>> No.54271783

>>54260012
>>54266029
>Sukoya Kana (Nijisanji JP),
I see it in the teeth kek

>> No.54271784

Very generic and fall flat. I'm not even hating but i'm having difficulty thinking about the things I like about them.

>> No.54271914

I like Nerissa and Shiori.
Dogs are average.
Koseki slightly below average.

>> No.54271931

>>54270221
I do like plenty of the designs from Council and Advent but I kind of get it. The direction radically changed after Myth and I'm surprised it kept going in the changed direction with Advent. Council and Advent both have high concept chuuni stuff going on, Myth is just "thing as a girl"

>> No.54272004

>>54263865
damn hahahah imagine finding any of these hot, couldn't be me hahaha

>> No.54272114

>>54259176
I'm just excited to have a new gen. That's all for right now.

>> No.54272218

>>54259176
hydro - cryo - electro - pink - electro

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>>54271931
>Myth is just "thing as a girl"
Simplicity works best in a sea of over thought bullshit. It’s why shit like Sora and Mito stand out so well nowadays. One of the newer NijiJPs just got a new outfit that’s just a jacket over a dress and it was a refreshing change to see.

>> No.54272317

>>54259176
They went the opposite way of Council, and look way too homogenous. None even screams fugitive criminal.
Twins are kinda cute, middle one looks like a psychopath so hopefully gets a fitting voice. Rightmost one if she has a Luna/Fauna-like voice and personality is gonna hit it big, leftmost looks like a more boring Kronii.

>> No.54272420

Goddamn a whole lot of sisters in here voicing unnecessary opinions when they should be making dinner.

>> No.54272443

>>54272317
>middle one looks like a psychopath so hopefully gets a fitting voice
Fingers crossed. Love her predator eyes.

>> No.54272628

>>54271400
You don't and won't ever call them Novella or Abyssgard. Everyone will just use the first Japanese name to refer to them. The rest are basically useless and irrelevant because it's fucking too long and hard to remember unlike Watson, Mori, they will be like these: Gawr,Ouro,Ceres, no one calls them using these stupid additional names

>> No.54273048

>>54259176
Their design as a gen overall is terrible, but that was obvious since the first teaser. It is just way too much of the same colors as has been said, with the twins providing just enough contrast to ruin any potential group aesthetic on top of that.

Also, other than the rock, they don't look like Hololive. Twins and raven look generic. Raven especially is way too serious of a design, I can't imagine her in an idol outfit at all, the other tall girls in Holo at least had colorful hair. Was looking forward to the middle one but hadn't imagined that a mere pair of eyes would do this much damage to a design, also the model illustration looks small corpo tier.

>> No.54273359

>>54273048
No comment on literally anything you said other than the colors, which I agree with and can add context to.
Boy did they fuck up the colors. There's too much shared color which feels like the life was sucked out of the room, but then the twins have just enough color to ruin any chances for inter-gen color theory synergy. Considering Cover likes to design first and match the girl to the design after, this means they had plenty of time to course correct their artists away from this problem.
Looks like someone without design principle experience was responsible for okaying Advent. One of my wasted majors went to professors who would have laughed this gen out of the room.

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>>54259628
No

>> No.54273500

>>54272628
It’s like people somehow haven’t realised all the ENs have a name that is really easy for Nips to say.

>> No.54273542

>>54273444
Roco my beloved… Toru my other beloved…

>> No.54273727

-Kronii 2.0 no idea who thought that was a good idea especially the same colors
-honestly if it is go go nippon girls I think the designs they used as GGN was more recognizable these feel basic.
-generic edgy design
-the only good design nice colors and patterns.

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>> No.54273756

>>54259176
Shiori makes me want to stick my dick in crazy.
Nerissa makes me want a countdown ASMR (singer has to have a good voice... right?)
The puppy twins are super cute, I prefer Fuwawa's fuwas
Bijou looks like a Genshit character that's been off banner for awhile

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>>54263444
>abyssgard
they couldn't think of anything else?

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>>54273752
Sex. Sex with crazy.

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>>54273813

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>>54271272
I won't forgive cover if Shiori is just Mori 2

>> No.54274016

>>54259176
Typical Hololive designs(animal+theme):
Raven+goth
cerberus+blue flame
Spider+goth
cerberus+pink falme
jellyfish+crystals

>> No.54274415

>>54259176
not as wild and varied as the other gens, but there's some standout elements. of course the true factor will be how the models move as well as the girls themselves

>> No.54275197

>>54259176
All the silhouettes are too similar unfortunately... I do like Left girl best even though its a really generic looking design

>> No.54275533

>>54259176
Middle one is creepy AF. Anons complaining about Henya's eyes when this is the definition of creepy.

>> No.54275602

>>54275533
>this is the definition of creepy.
I love it.

>> No.54275798

>>54261756
source on the audio?

>> No.54275969

Starting from the left
>1depressing and overall uninspiring
>2boobs too big, the twins look to be on the shorter side like 4'10" and the boobs don't match her character
>3too creepy. There's a reason Halloween is 1 day a year. You will get creeped out looking at her everyday
>4nothing seems too off and overall the best design
>5feet too small compared to the other girls especially the twins. Her face is also bigger so it makes no sense, overall needs to be redone on the proportions.

>> No.54276019

>>54259176
oh nice one of the new dogs shows her belly button

>> No.54276116

>most anons prefer the most generic, boring uninspired bland design of the gen.

>> No.54276162

>>54259176
I like the left one. the rest is uninspiring especially the twins

>> No.54276332

>>54259176
They should establish their persona preferably from left to right:
>Kuudere
>Sweet dog
>Yandere
>Wild dog
>Meme queen loli to challenge the top.

>> No.54276573

Big Clown Feet

>> No.54276582

>>54263444
>purple
>purple
>blue
>blue
>pink

>> No.54276952

None of the designs are outright bad. No sana or goblin irys. So that's a win.

>> No.54276994

>>54259176
Looks more like a JP gen to be honest.

>> No.54277072
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Why do they suddenly have their names in Western order?

>> No.54277144

>>54271632
That's pretty generous of you

>> No.54277250

>>54262957
Clarkson you muppet, your taste in vtuber is terrible

>> No.54277265

>>54275197
The simplicity is what makes it good. With the edgy look and long black hair, she has a similar appeal to Satsuki Kiryuin.

>> No.54277278

>>54277072
it was always that way?
never seen/heard anyone say gura gawr or fauna ceres for example, it's always been gawr gura or ceres fauna

>> No.54277359

>>54277072
it's kinda weird to switch it up.
really wish they'd update the older gens tbqh

>> No.54277402

>>54277278
No that's JP order. I mean the new gen has their names in Western order.

>> No.54277530

>>54277402
Bijou's name is in JP order since she has kanji in her name

>> No.54277568

>>54259176
I want the tsurime eyed one in the middle to step on me
disregard the others

>> No.54277632

>>54259176
i really hope the jackets are removable.

>> No.54277659

>>54277530
That's never been relevant to holo names though. If kanji/katakana meant anything then Ame's first name is actually Watson, Fauna's is Ceres, Gura's Gawr etc

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>>54277568
She's lovely.
Crazy big-tittied goth gf. Perfect.

>> No.54277680

>>54259176
To me they look like they were made to appeal to the vtubers themselves.
Previous gens had to deal with "here is your model, you are a rat/fastfoodworker/british"

>> No.54277723

They'll be a sister gen to HoloStars EN2, with a similar theme - one of which is going to be someome who looks like ainz ooal gown.

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>>54259176
doesn't matter when they hate streaming, never finish games, become inactive after 3 months, collab with males, scared to say anything lewd, have to wait months for permissions, awkward forced happiness during forced collabs, lame seiso asmr, can't build in minecraft, 3D models have no physics

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>>54263444
>>54259176
dumbest fucking names. I went to school with a nerissa who was rude, fat, black and ended up a lesbian.

>abyssgard
fanfic shit

>fuwawa
cant be taken seriously. random kiara fanname copy/paste

>monoco, morocco, m'lady
mococo sounds like a baboon

>> No.54277821

>>54259176
I like the matching look
However you're going to see them alone for 99& of the time (except for the obvious exception) so I'm not sure that impression will last.

>> No.54277824

>>54277674
emotionless sex...

>> No.54277855

Are the twins just going to earn less?

>> No.54277900

>>54259176
I'll watch the crystal loli maybe a bit of the crazy leader girl, but the rest idrc about. If the wolves are the reincarnations of those twins then I'll have to watch for the memes.

>> No.54278042

>>54277855
They probably do solo streams but end up collabing a lot. Cover probably want an EN okakuro.

>> No.54278111

They look like small corpo designs, which i mean as a bit of a compliment-- I like how small corpos do fantasy designs most of the time. That being said, Nerissa and Novella definitely look like a pain in the ass to draw.

>> No.54278144

>>54278042
they share a channel anon, it's just straight up less money

>> No.54278155

>>54259176
Mid and last are the best imo
I think the twin thing is lazy and a waste of a model slof

>> No.54278229

>>54259176
They are coherent as a "group"
Unlike the other EN gens

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>> No.54278309

>>54259176
What kind of prison uniform are those

>> No.54278351

>>54278144
>they share a channel
Imagine the jealousy and drama when one becomes obviously more popular than the other

>> No.54278389

>>54260003
The animated teaser made it seem like Nerissa had a hime cut, this is false advertising and I will not stand for it.

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>>54277674

>> No.54278447

>>54278351
Is it any different from the inevitability of one gen member having the highest numbers while another has the lowest?

>> No.54278521

>>54266029
>no FGO artists
It's joever...

>> No.54278539

>>54278447
It’s worse on a shared channel, imagine blue has 3k views and when pink comes on it drops to 1k or something
It’s going to hurt mentally in the long run

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>debut streams at 5am euro time
Thanks blue dorito, very cool

>> No.54279073

>>54278696
EU bros... will our suffering ever end?

>> No.54279148

>>54278144
oh that sounds awful. I wonder if they pitched that idea or if cover want to try something new.

>> No.54279194

They're all fine. None are jumping out at me as particularly amazing, but after Council had literally only one good design (Mumei) it's a real step up.

>> No.54279323

>>54260012
>Implying I would ever engage in intercourse for purposes other than impregnation.

>> No.54279403

>>54263201
Irys looks sad no one sat in the same table as her at lunch.

>> No.54279587

>>54277072
Moona, Anya, and Kaela have their official names in Western order.

>> No.54279700

>>54259176
They don't look like "Hololive designs", they remind me of the scrapped holoJP designs, you know what I'm talking about. Too many details, but also too monochromatic. Secondary outfits won't save them because the default outfit is what gets featured and adapted into 3D.

>> No.54279744

>>54263865
Anon pls. I just finished taking some stupid sexual harassment course. I can't be a walking erection this early in the morning!

>> No.54280048

>>54259176
9.5/10
8.5/10
10/10
9.0/10
8.0/10

>> No.54280413

>>54279700
3/5 have jackets, hopefully 3d wont have them, else there will be 3 more cases of the ame problem

>> No.54280609

>>54259580
Creepy sex is the hottest sex.

I want her to hold a knife to my shaft anon

>> No.54280647

>>54273935
Now I can cook while I moom

>> No.54281497

>>54277766
just a symptom of being japanese names that don't translate to english
fuwafuwa means fluffy in the sense of being soft
mokomoko means fluffy in the sense of being like, lumpy, idk how to explain it. like sheep's wool.
fuwafuwa->fuwawa
mokomoko->mokoko

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>>54270834
Pray you get another Casino Botan/Gen5 situation. Where a footfag artist falls in love with the designs of the characters and still draws them

>> No.54282165

>>54279194
That really killed council for me, only designs I liked were Mumei's and maybe Fauna, but I really don't like Mumei as a streamer and Fauna is just alright. I've warmed up to rrat after she dropped the tryhard personality at least.

>> No.54282197

>>54259176
Shiori SEX, twins CUTE, Nerissa ok, Koseki.... if she's cute enough the models saved but I don't really like it.

>> No.54282196

looks like shit dayo

>> No.54283428

>>54259176
WHAT THE FUCK!
THE LOLI WASNT A LOLI AT ALL!

>> No.54283605

>>54283428
the models are scaled to be the same height, but she's 30 centimeters smaller than Rissa actually.

>> No.54283972

>>54259176
look like Genshin characters, I mean that in a bad way

>> No.54284110

>>54283428
she's 140cm or something, OP make it so they're all the same height

>> No.54284280

>>54283428
>smaller than gura
>not loli
lmao

>> No.54284299

>>54283605
why did they force scale them that way. annoying.

>> No.54284750

The consequences of Genshin Impact have been a disaster for Character Design overall. HoloX, Holo-Advent, and like - FIVE Nijisanji Waves have all reeked of Gachashit. They all look like 3* trash you have to wade through to get the Banner 5*. I'm sure that is intentional since they keep hiring artists currently drawing for Gacha Games. I like Crazy Eyes and her crazy ass eyes tho.

>> No.54284888

>>54259176
>Nerissa
looks like some fever lovechild of enterprise, yor forger and kronii, definitely leaves a rather strong impression among the gen
9-10/10
>Shiori
eyes look weird at first glance imo, will probably have the SOVL if she has the charisma to make her model work
7-7.5/10
>Fuwa and Moco
will probably have the Rem and Ram dynamic in the gen, all the better if they can make it work
8/10
>Bijou
looks like a sicko fusion of irys and enna, definitely uoh-worthy
8/10

>> No.54284894

>>54284750
I posted an image of then together in the Genshin Impact general saying they're leaks for future characters and no one called me out, kek.

>> No.54285048

>>54267051
Wow I wrote this before even appearing in the thread?

>> No.54285060

for some reason whenever a new gen comes out, i always hate their designs. this one is no different and the designs give off indie 2 view vibes. im not sure what it is, but perhaps the color palette of pink, purple, black etc. just gives off western troontuber vibes. i felt the same about council, but it grew on me later, though i mostly watch fauna for the personality rather than model. maybe these just need time to settle in.

though myth has the best design to this day imo

>> No.54285212

>>54259176
The only reason Shiori stands out is because of the eyes, the rest are very forgettable.

>> No.54285417

>>54261756
Give me sauce on the audio for fuck's sake

>> No.54285732

>>54259176
>>54263444
One reason they all look weird is the monochrome backgrounds. We've only seen them on black/white/ pngs and their entire trailer is in a dark gloomy prison with extremely harsh lighting.
Like just picture Narissa during her playthrough of Minecraft or super bunny man or something, it'll be totally different.
The twins and the cunny look like they'd fit with pretty much any light/pastel colors, the other two are gonna look weird as shit every time they plan anything that isn't resident evil or some other horror kusoge.
They're primed to have absolutely BITCHIN new years kimonos though, I'm already looking forward to it!

And who knows maybe the gap moe from Ebony Darkness Dementia Ravencroft playing super mario in a totally deadpan monotone will be great.

>> No.54285796

>>54259176
looks life FF14 characters all white hair

>> No.54286070

>>54285732
The perfect consumer, happy to slurp down his slop and pay double for seconds.

>> No.54286136

They're fine. They're not bad designs but kind of uninteresting. I don't like the huge Kingdom Hearts shoes on the twins and I wish there was more color than black, black, black, black, black, blue, blue, blue, pink, pink. But overall they're ok. I think Alyssa Laracroft is the best one due to the intricacy of the details. Rin Penrose will be the breakout. Enna 2 will be the flop.

>> No.54286401

>>54259176
Middle one is decent.
The rest are shit. Really low effort.
Middle-right is literally rin.

>> No.54286603

>>54278521
My copium: They are now will only be used for Holo JP.
Cause too many EN broke the heart of FGO artist

>> No.54286668

>>54259176
I think it's somewhat interesting that Nerissa is either someone's favorite or a close second behind Shiori or the worst of the bunch, very few middling opinions on her. Personally I love her design.

>> No.54286751

>>54259176
Imagine if Nina is in this wave and so blatantly join another corpo so soon... It'd be a huge slap in the face to NijiEN

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>>54285732
It kinda works actually.

>> No.54287170

>>54286603
Pako...Wada...

>> No.54287229

>>54287044
Oh God the twins are gonna play Wonderland aren't they

>> No.54287240

Boring, forgettable designs. Too much going on, yet nothing that stands out.

>> No.54287349

>>54259176
>They all have black and white as the base colour which looks kinda dull to me.
black is timeless, classic, refined, and elegant. You cannot go wrong falling back to black.

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>>54259176
Bijou is cute. They're all fine though, not super interesting but also not offensive.

>> No.54287464

>>54287357
Are there any offensive Hololive designs?

>> No.54287519

>>54259176
Yeah. The designs aren’t bad. They’re just…sufficient. Nothing stands out, really.

>> No.54287541

Do any of them have "The Rigger"?

>> No.54287565

>>54259176
They look like generic gacha trash, they dont pass the silhouette test, and only the twins look like they actually belong in hololove. The rest look like theyre ripped from some chink gacha. Is hololive really just mass produced macrocorp garbage now?

>> No.54287612

>>54259176
Unironically looks like they took a page out of Niji's book and trended hard towards soulless techwear garbage, aside from the generic fantasy-ish fake loli who is 70% legs.

>> No.54288265

>>54287565
lol, ironic. I think the twins and loli are the only ones who look like they're from a gacha. I guess you just haven't played a lot of gachas, they're just a scapegoat for you.

>> No.54288301

>>54259176
designs are too monochrome and badchuuni and lack group and company cohesion.
its all the ugliness of irys' design minus her face. i dislike Shiori's design in particular because its too dark and feels a bit trashy.
bijou is a let down because it shows once again cover has no balls to release actual lolis ENside despite gura being the most subbed vtuber in the world.
fuwamoco look good and im interested to see how a duo will turn out, im willing to excuse the fact they're a reskin of eachother.
overall quite disappointing after 2 whole years of waiting.
i come to hololive for cute comfy designs. no one cares about your androgynous manager, no one cares about your edgy chinese gacha designs and lore. i think hololive is trying to hard to appeal to people who dont watch hololive or even vtubers. sorry for the long post.

>> No.54288390

>>54259580
> Creepy Sex
Ohmygot Ambatunat

>> No.54288409

>>54261756
how do i get the sound working?
this is the 5th audiopost i see but alas :(

>> No.54288474

>>54288301
I like chuuni dark edgy designs and I think cute comfy designs are boring. There's gotta be something for everyone.

>> No.54288673

>>54263270
the moment i saw their reveal i thought back to HoloX. i don't think i like that they're trying to have the same archetypes for different audiences. talents become more homogenous and bland

i hope they have a good mic for asmr

>> No.54288729

>>54277072
Wow, even their names are stepping into Niji's sort of YA novel level quality.

>> No.54288742

>>54259176
painfully generic except crazy eyes and even she is geenric from the neck down

>> No.54288918

>>54288265
Ive only really checked out arknights and one other one that had a similar art style I cant remember the name of

>> No.54288992

>>54259176
All of them are great. The best EN designs at the moment, apart from the Omega design.

>> No.54289112

>>54287464
What is Sana?

>> No.54289474

I also think they are too generic and bland. I would like to believe that it was meant to attract all the normalfags, just hoping the girls are dedicated and have the attitude to attract fans on their own.

The hololive lore sucks as usual.

>> No.54289805

>>54259176
Only 1/5 bare tummy. They can do better.

>> No.54289843

>>54288918
Azur Lane? both from Yostar

>> No.54289885

>>54288301
Good reksin of twins is supposed to have the least differences possible. If your twin reskin have more differences than a simpsons hand can count, it's a fail.

Mario / Luigi : one is taller, green and a dull face
Momoi / Midori (blue_archive) : a color swap, the first girl sports an another ribbon and a skirt while the second is in shorts. 2 differences
Ami / Mami futami : their only difference is the size of their side tails.

I would even add that even twins from different gender is great if you keep small differences in design, just as rin and len kagamine. But when there are too many differences between "twins", that's a fucked up design because it's useless to do twins as characters if you're not willing to keep to the gimmick.

>> No.54289952

>>54259176
pink one has headphones. if it were niji her hand would be permanently stuck to them.

>> No.54289982

>>54289474
is there any good lore from vtuber that doesn't suck to be honest. The only good lore is either non-existent or is a entire joke from a drunk guy just like Chaika's one.

>> No.54290020

>>54287464
Original IRyS

>> No.54290062

>>54259176
>more asymmetrical/techwear-ish designs
MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP

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>>54259176
>Kroni V2 (even funnier since shes also korean)
not a bad design tho, I liker her horns
>Dog with boobs
I like the jacket and dress combo so it works
>We want the Makima/Kafka audience
and it works, probably the most satisfying design out of the gen (also im just a sucker for her overall black goth theme and color scheme)
>Dog with no boobs
like before, I apperciate the big jacket and dress combo
>Rock loli
I really wanna like this design but I dunno man, might be the only one who would benefit largely from future outfits

>> No.54290392

>>54259176
EN3 has good models with plenty of variety but with a unified fantasy design style. Some of them are sexy but in a moderate way that doesn't feel like their character wandered in from a harem anime. Kronii and Ina often feel out of place in their own gen collabs because they have over the top coomerbait outfits. Cover held back with EN3 and management clearly didn't want any more fights over redesigns. In the long term that should mean that EN3 will get along better with management.

>> No.54290507

middle one is sex
most right one is cute
rest is meh

>> No.54290588

The problem is that the designs don't go enough in one way or the other. There is not enough homogeneity to make them seem a cohesive unit, but they're not distinct enough to stand out on their own.

Shiori and Nerissa especially. The two together, without the rest of the generation, look dope if you're into the edgy tech wear thing. Add the rest of their genmates and they look infinitely worse, both individually, as a duo, and as a group.

A better way to have gone about it would be to double down on the chuuni. Make black/monochrome the main color of the entire generation, and make each one stand out on the secondary colors. Less white on the twins. It just clashes way too much with the darker colors of the other three. Make Fuwa's secondary color different so she doesn't clash with Nerissa's.

Bijou doesn't even look like she belongs in the same gen as the other 4. Honestly, she needs a redesign from the ground up

>> No.54290594

>>54288409
google 4chan audiopost or webms with sound

>> No.54290686

>>54290588
if they all looked the same we'd all be reading complaints about that. the lore shit will end soon and they'll all be normal streamers. the designs on their own are fine. nothing is extremely fucked up. voice and personality are far more important.

>> No.54290716

Are they sisters IN REAL LIFE??

>> No.54290805

>>54290716
yeah, mine

>> No.54290848

>>54261859
>>54265823
>>54275798
>>54285417
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/54251970/#54254393

>> No.54290855

>>54290686

Yeah, no, I agree. I'm just saying the corpos clearly wanted some sort of unified design, even if it's not the best idea, and massively fucked up because they didn't go all in on the concept.

>> No.54291027

>>54290805
I'm having sex with your sisters anon
we are brothers in-law

>> No.54291101

>>54259176
What the fuck is wrong with the head size of the one on the right?

>> No.54291270

>>54259176
Genshin is releasing 5 new characters?

>> No.54291279

>>54291101
They've scaled her to be the same height.

>> No.54291538

>>54259176
Twins looks much better than the rest.
Loli is good too.
The other two are too generic, even for this line up.

>> No.54291556

>>54259176
Shiori is peak sex
Nerissa is an average gacha game character which is ok because those games live off of their characters designs
The twins are meh
The gem loli is low tier I don't like color palette at all

>> No.54292306

>>54287044
wtf how did you get that footage early???!

>> No.54292515

>>54287044
It really doesn't. They look really out of place.
It looks like I'm seeing some kid's birthday invitation.

>> No.54292594

>>54284750
Koreans are to blame for techware

>> No.54292725

>>54261859
>>54265823
>>54275798
>>54285417
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=4702124
1:43

>> No.54294357

>>54292725
I deeply regret asking

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