/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

BVTM thread

>>54212136
They knew what they signed up for

imagine getting paid to shitpost about hololive all day long on 4channel.org

>>54212136
>someone typed this unironically
Seek mental help retard.

>>54212136
The worst males at that even

>>54212136
Besides Botan the others are the usual suspects
>Botan already collabed with males before
There's a pretty big difference in doing a collab once or twice a year and doing it almost every week like Towa and once a month like Laplus

>girls having fun streaming for long hours
>retards like you are throwing a shitfit bc they to play with men
What did they do to deserve a schizo fanbase like this?

are there really Botan unicorns?

>>54212136
why are you brown?

>>54212136
Kek. Definitely not my oshi. How many Holos are even playing this? Like 3?

>>54212136
Daily reminder that you will never interact with your oshi in any significant way
She had, has and will have fun with her multiple male friends, while you mald here and jerkoff while crying to sleep
You could die right now and no one would care, specially your oshi

>>54213203
Not anymore

>>54213168
Don't pretend like you're normal, homobegger. Cute girls doing cute things is the status quo of Hololive. You and the Homos are the unwanted aberration.

>>54213289
>Daily reminder that you will never interact with your oshi in any significant way
Already have. Your mentally ill cuck headcanon fails as per usual.

Botan and Laplus' fanbases are already mostly cucks anyway so it doesn't really matter

>>54213168
Don’t be a hypocrite, sis.

>>54212136
Anyway GTA multi is extra cringe, so there is a bigger isssue here.

>>54212136
Curuois as to why Botan seems to have little to no Unicorns in her fanbase.

I thought gamer hags were all the rage with sex-deprived holobronies.

I'm honestly curious, where did the idea that they can't interact with men come from? Watching vtubers made me slowly get into real idols and watching those classic shows like akbingo, hkt48 no odekake etc, and in all these shows the girls interact with guys.

Like yeah they're not dating them, I get why that's not allowed, but all the girls interact with guys in every episode, it's never presented as taboo in anyway and it's clearly expected with the job. It's not just the hosts either who are usually old non hot guys, but lots of episodes have guests who can be younger guys or even famous actors/athletes who the girls comment on how good looking they are.

You can call this bait but I genuinely don't get where the idea came from that female vtubers can just never talk to men, because it's not from the big j-idols.

>>54213396
>Muh cute girls doing cute things
An empty statement that means nothing. It's just a shield to justify your retarded beliefs. Not even the Holo girls believe this shit.

>>54213696
I blame everything entirely on Mori

>>54213689
EOL boarudo purisu andastando

>>54213168
>>54213289
Go hiking or something instead of posting /here/ if you want to pretend to be a normie

>>54213764
>empty statement
>is the major reason why holo is the biggest vtuber company
Ogey

>>54213601
Word. Femlets literally sexually worship by the 10s of thousands convulsing in some mass barbaric mating ritual(aka concerts) and its fully normalised including underage pre-roastie girls. But you can't have 1 wholesome virtual anime being cute and creative.
Imagine.
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>>54212136
No. No it does not.
https://youtu.be/3N7tWk5m7SU?t=17855

>>54213696
There's a reason why unicorns are seen below actual Idol fans.

>>54213696
it's just the easiest way to shit on Hololive

>>54213289
Thank you Ame. Very cool.

>>54213788
>we don't walk around these parts
Think of me when you have your first heart attack at 36 you disgusting lardball.

>>54212136
>”hey gura you should play VCR GTA!”

>Gura: eh maybe if they made a hololive exclusive server

The only true idol

>>54213696
Why the fuck would you want to watch the girl you like have more fun with another guy than she does with you? Are you a cuck? That's literally the answer.

>>54213948
This is why Gura is the best

>>54213601
Literally who the fuck are these people? Also why are you making of those who are acting the same as you?

>>54213696
It's just that some people don't want to watch that kind of thing. There's obviously no rule against it.

>>54214066
t. watches porn daily

>>54213948
She admits she'd play a hololive server, which implies playing with men.

>>54213980
It's only easy because they do it to themselves. The only corpo where fans throw a shitfit about the girls interacting with men.

>>54213970
The people who make these threads aren't even unicorns. They're people who hate unicorns so much they've decided it's a worthwhile endeavor to pretend to be unicorns and make entire threads of them jerking themselves off about how "Oh no no, _____ interacted with a male! It's so over for her!". I can see how loneliness can drive a man to become a unicorn, but I can't fathom the absolute mental illness it takes for these people to become like this.

>>54214148
Anon...

>>54214148
Hololive isn’t holostar tourist.

Go back.

>>54213168
Laplus asked to have a fanbase like that. The others not so much.

>>54214023
I'm 6'1 and 76kg, but go on and project more, it's delicious

>>54213696
>where did the idea that they can't interact with men come from?
From their own mouths.

>>54214244
Post balls or no balls
Also eat a sandwich

>>54214066
>Are you a cuck?
This shit is simply sad to read. Do you seethe at random couples on the street?

>>54213696
Playing a game together or hanging out and having fun together is different than a produced and scripted show, anon.
"Real" idols don't typically hang out with men IRL while their fans watch. That would be kind of fucked up.
But you're pretending that those "real" idols you watch stream themselves hanging out in hot tubs with guys or going to clubs with guys or just generally spending time together with guys at home in front of their fans. But that doesn't happen.

>>54214412
If he's upset with an internet japanese woman having boyfriends then yes, he seethes at random couples.

>>54214219
>>54214227
You are coping hard.

>>54214035
>gura
>idol

>>54214412
No? What a terrible comparison.
A better analogy would be like if a woman approached you alone and asked if you wanted to spend time together or get something to eat and she ends up bringing another guy along. That's essentially what is happening.

>>54214603
Nice negative space and size 8 text, retard

>>54214496
>"Real" idols don't typically hang out with men IRL while their fans watch. That would be kind of fucked up.
Can't imagine myself being this mentally broken.

>>54214412
women from random couples on the street don't typically advertise themselves as being there for you, but then pull a bait and switch and make you a third wheel instead.

>>54214066
>than she does with you?
she's not having fun with you
she's not doing anything with you
you're an anonymous random fucking viewer
you do not have a relationship with them, of any kind.

idk how you would enjoy your oshi having fun with another male for hours and not feel weird about it lol

>>54214711
Just say you don't care for idols or idol shit, you nigger faggot. Stop interloping into other people's spaces and hobbies to try to change them to suit your own tastes.

>>54214794
be not being a schizo that believes she is in a relationship with me

>>54214603
All but Kronii, Mori, and maybe Matsuri (I haven't kept up with her since her menhera became too apparently) capture the essence of the idol and have managed to recontextualise it in a modern setting.

>>54214603
>massive image full of blank space and shitloads of text that's too small to even read
A leftist made this meme

>>54213764
>An empty statement that means nothing.
Cute girls doing cute things literally means cute girls doing cute things. it's a statement with substance and a specific meaning.

>>54214634
>A better analogy would be like if a woman approached you alone and asked if you wanted to spend time together or get something to eat and she ends up bringing another guy along. That's essentially what is happening.
Honest to god, what the hell am I reading? They're video game streamers playing GTA. What could go wrong in life to end up like this?

>>54214603
Retard

>>54214778
Sorry retard, but the entire point of idols is that it's anti-celebrity worship culture. Idols are dedicated to their fans and self improvement.
This isn't going to change just because you think it's stupid or wrong.
Kill yourself. >>54214838

>>54212136
d-d-doesn't count...

>>54214863
If you have an oshi you're schizo to begin, no normal person gets that deep into a hobby like vtubers

>>54214838
>Just say you don't care for idols or idol shit, you nigger faggot.
I don't. And I'm not the type of retards who see vtubers as idols either.

>>54214971
>it's a statement with substance and a specific meaning.
Just because you repeat it doesn't make it any more true.

>>54214863
>>54215033
It always struck me as more indicative of the "parasocial" buzzword if you actually get something out of watching two people of the opposite sex hang out and have fun together.
In IRL situations it is pretty universally agreed upon that being the third wheel is a miserable experience, even more so if you had any feelings for one of the parties. Normal people avoid that kind of dynamic when possible, so viewers that unironically want to watch that kind of thing are definitely getting some kind of vicarious thrill out of it and are far from normal.

>>54214985
>>54215033
Why are you homobeggars like this?

>>54213696
>Hololive explodes in popularity after it fully embraces CGDCT entertainment with no males in sight
>wow where did the idea that they can't interact with men come from?

>>54215095
>two people of the opposite sex hang = dating
cool

>>54215033
>see vtubers as idols
They do all things that a idol do, so how they aren't idols
It's like a guy plays to professional club but he isn't a athlete just because you don't agree with it

>>54214863
>>54215172
Sis, we were literally cutting ourselves when that whore called into Milord’s dating stream.

>>54213696
Because the drama fags actually don't care about any of this. They have no real loyalties to any cause. They're just here to stir shit up.

>>54215095
>In IRL situations it is pretty universally agreed upon that being the third wheel is a miserable experience
>IRL situations
As if you reclusive retards know anything about IRL shit.

>>54212136
Im more mad that Cover approved this rather than modded blockgame. Seriously, wtf is there problem??

kirariiin V!

>>54215138
I'm >>54214985, so why the fuck are you accusing me of being a homobeggar?

>>54215203
>They do all things that a idol do
Like having boyfriends behind the scenes?

>>54215095
Normal people don't feel like that unless they want to bang one of the other people and therefore get jealous. You don't get upset when you see two comedians interacting do you? Because you don't care about them in that way. It's all to with your own judgement about what those people should be to you.

>>54215237
Can you shut the fuck up when people are at least trying to discuss things? It's not even a fucking own since you probably have a lot in common with Vox's female unicorns.

>>54215089
>Just because you repeat it doesn't make it any more true.
You're right. My statement that "cute girls doing cute things" is a term with substance and meaning is already 100% true. It can get truer than true kek.

>>54215172
>it's not dating
Neither is hugging or smelling each other's hair or holding hands, but you are seriously mentally ill if you think that most fans want to watch some faggot get to do stuff with the girl they like that they themselves don't even get to do.
Fucking die, you shit-eating worm.

>>54215309
I wasn't talking about you I just replied to you to point that image out about how homobeggars just want to destroy what made hololive great in the first place

>>54215237
>unicorns are big hypocrites
Who would've though they don't like their behavior being reflected? Also how long do you have this saved?

>>54215441
Have you considered that some see it as a joint performance by the two to entertain their fans?

>>54215138
>homobeggars
nta but fucking where were the homos mentioned? you fags change the meaning so much every time it's convenient for you, it's become a meaningless buzzword. you nocturnal SEAfags actually need to relearn how to use english

>>54215237
>across the street instead of down the road
this pathetic bugpeople can't do anything right

>>54215344
Normal comedians don't market themselves as idols that want you to fall in love with them, you disingenuous piece of walking excrement.

>>54215344
Anon, there's literally thousands of memes about being the third wheel, even between friends, nobody wants to watch two people flirt for hours
And yes, to anti-social fags speaking for hours with another sex qualifies as flirting unless it's something obviously formal like a TV program

>>54214979
retard

>>54215504
Cool?
That's not what Hololive is about or marketed as however, so the point still stands.

>>54215441
>smelling each other's hair or holding hands
>over discord
oh you are actually schizophrenic, sugoi

>>54215164
>CGDCT
kill yourself at once

>>54215503
>unicorns are big hypocrites
Nobody cut themselves because anyone collabed with Tempus. The hypocrisy you see is merely a figment of your delusional schizophrenia.

>>54215621
?
Idols are performers, no?

>>54215259
we need to find these people and kill them!

>>54215441
>you are seriously mentally ill if you think that most fans want to watch some faggot get to do stuff with the girl they like that they themselves don't even get to do.
So now you're calling us "mentally ill" for not having delusions and getting jealous at male chuubas? I guess you're running out of material now.

>>54215644
CGDCT. CGDCT. CGDCT. Am I upsetting you?

>>54215534
Why the fuck would you want more male collabs besides being a homobeggar

>Your oshi
>There are 2 (two) hologirls in the server
>No one else in it has cultivated holo's culture/fanbase and presents 0 trouble interacting with men
what the fuck is the problem here?

>>54215737
If people wanted to watch that the homos they won't be third class citizens, go watch niji or something

>>54215692
>bringing up Tempus for no reason
I can see they live rent free in your retarded head.
>The hypocrisy you see is merely a figment of your delusional schizophrenia.
>he types in a thread about female chuubas playing with males in GTA
You're not even trying at this point.

>>54213948
>if "Miko" makes one i will join
she knows really well that Miko wouldn't let homos in
absolutely based
this is why Gura deserves her throne more than anybody

>>54215737
>I want to watch girls and guys flirt with each other
>I'm not mentally ill right?
Sorry Anon, but I'm afraid cuckoldry is a mental illness.

>>54215915
Yuri is also cuckoldry, though

>>54215880
>I can see they live rent free in your retarded head.
I can see Vesper and Magni getting terminated rumao
>You're not even trying at this point
Your accusations of hypocrisy make no sense and I doubt you can even explain them.

>>54215858
Things spread anon, Towa and Botan are smart and won't go around inviting people if they don't show interest, but Laplus is retarded

>>54213948

>>54215631
Do you not know what hyperbole is? I was using those as examples of things that aren't dating, but most people don't want to see, even if they're "normal".
I did this to illustrate how what you said in >>54215172 doesn't matter because two people of the opposite sex hanging out together is a lot more uncomfortable when you have feelings for one of them, even if they aren't dating.

>>54215915
>cuckoldry
unrelated, but do you watch porn?

>>54215999
No, yuri is just a hot FFM threesome waiting to happen. With me.

>>54215915
>I want to watch girls and guys flirt with each other
You're making it very obvious that you never interacted with a woman before.

>>54215999
Lesbians aren't real

>>54216032
>when you have feelings for one of them
So you recognize your mental illness, good.

>>54215534
>SEAfags
You have no idea what you are talking about, Seafags are the biggest supporters of the Homos, take Vesper for example, his chat is filled with at least 70% Seafags. East asia and SEA has had idols for way longer than the west they know what idol culture actually is which is no boyfriend or sexual relationships.

>>54216049
Are you saying that normies don't watch porn?
If porn is the difference between a schizo and a functional person then 90% of males are schizos

>>54212136
I like when Botan does stuff.

>>54216032
>because two people of the opposite sex hanging out together is a lot more uncomfortable when you have feelings for one of them, even if they aren't dating.
Thats literally what a Menhera fan is.

>>54215711
They are performers that are dedicated to their fans. That's why terms like oshi and gachikoi exist and are used by the talents themselves. Even Laplus has said she wants gachikoi fans. That's why they sell things like rings and voice packs and shit like that. You are supposed to fall in love with them. That's what this entire industry is.

>>54216174
It’s also ironic how they were all about “supporting the cause” with them even canceling some people for sending Bettel a gift that was racist towards SEA but they show their true racist colors when they see people who prefer not to watch homocollabs

>>54216082
You will never fuck them, you're just jerking off with 2 people flirting or making out behind a screen and you're not with them, you're a cuckold. If you seethe to cucks, at least have decency and don't be a hypocrite

>>54216106
I'm a sister and fucked your mom yesterday.

>>54216089
I know more about interacting with women than I ever wanted to know and I wish I could forget some of it. Pro tip: women are living contradictions, also, they're generally whores.

>>54212136
As long as they're not black I don't care.

>>54215737
There's a reason why none of the NijiEN girls even come close to the Hololive girls' numbers, especially the HoloJP girls.
There's a reason why Pekora, Marine, and Miko are the top female streamers in the entire industry. Sorry, but you're a minority.

>>54216174
So are SEAfags dramafags, homobeggars, unicorns, flaseflaggers, sisters, holobros, unityfags, CGDCTenjoyers, or tourists? Because I can't tell anymore with you ""people"" changing the meaning of terms every 5 seconds
also
>70%
>i have no source

>>54212136
Hololive has been healing but in an ironic twist of fate it's now the JPs that are failing to tardwrangle their girls.

>>54216327
Girl on girl action isn't cuckoldry no matter how much you'd like to pretend it is for the purposes of drawing a false equivalence, Captain Retardo.

>>54216027
>anyone
>anywhere
>listening to Laplus
in what universe
and when has she ever successfully accomplished this

>>54215858
>All the JP indies who joined the server full of men are okay joining the server full of men.
Wow! What a revelation! You realize there are tons of JP indies that AREN'T okay with that too, right?
Please look up what selection bias means.

>>54213696
I can't believe posts like this still exist. It's been a year and there's still tourists who are absolutely baffled by male jealousy.

>>54216141
>>54216268
>Thats literally what a Menhera fan is.
>No. I don't understand what idols are. Why don't you guys change shit so that I like it instead?
You are narcissistic enough that I would absolutely believe you if you said you were women.

>dozens of bait threads about VCR are made throughout the week
>none of them survive for an hour because no one /here/ cares about VSPO, e-celebs or the dingo homo
>The one thread about the 3 holos present in the 80+ streamer server
>picrel

>>54215755
>muh homobegging
You aren't creating any good arguments. If anything, you're causing more people to be less supportive of you.

>>54216420
Shut up, it's just a coincidence that the top 10 holos don't collab with males for years or never did, people who like males chuubas are the majority, it's just a coincidence too that they're the least watched

>>54216345
>I know more about interacting with women than I ever wanted to know
Your former therapists and teachers don't count.

>>54216885
>you're causing more people to be less supportive of you
>source: it was revealed to me in a dream

>>54216584
Didn't you know?
Males are not territorial, especially in nature. They don't require security in their lives at all and they don't feel emotions like jealousy because emotions are for women!
Right, sisters?

>>54216885
Different anon here, I support that anon. Fuck you faggot.

>>54216953
Yaassss, kween! Own his ass, sis!

>>54216299
Performing for their fans with another performer is not betraying them. Not every interaction between a male and a female is romantic.
>>54216327
Post tits

>>54216953
>Your former therapists and teachers don't count.
Interesting projection. Is that where all your female interactions come from?

>>54216420
>There's a reason why Pekora, Marine, and Miko are the top female streamers in the entire industry
It's because they're great entertainers, right? And not because they pander to your whims. I'm sure that's not the first and only thing on your mind.

>>54216420
>>54216923
Pekora literally hired a rapist for her anniversary.

>>54217113
That rapist? Me.

>>54217113
>literal lies
kek, they're not even trying to hide their intentions anymore

>>54212136
She wasn't my oshi but I still had to unsub from her.
I won't hear la-la-ion anymore... a shame.

>>54217181
Then what was that whole thing about? Marine and Pekora have also appeared on other streams with men and I'm not talking about male staff.

>>54216959
>continues to be retarded
Please keep going. I wanna see if you can convince me.

>>54217113
You can hire them now?
Japan is so advanced fr fr

>>54217008
Guess I struck a nerve.
>>54217030
Simple observation. No need to get defensive.

>>54212136
Pick a better oshi
If she willingly plays on this male eceleb filled server you never picked right to begin with and lost from the getgo

>>54217071
It's because they're great entertainers and they understand that Hololive is about cute girls doing cute things. So, since they're smart women who understand the appeal of Hololive and also have an adequate grasp of male psychology, they don't collab with Stars.

>>54217359
I can't keep going if you stop arguing, Anonchama. I need material to work with.

>>54217269
Because there isn't a single person who thinks that guy has any chance of meaningful connection with her

>>54217071
It's just a coincidence, just like it's a coincidence that the homos are the least watched when everyone outside of /here/ supposedly loves them

>>54217025
Having fun and playing games together is not performing. If they were doing a song at a concert or something, then maybe that's a bit more acceptable. But the nature of streaming is much more personal than some scripted performance.

>>54213696
It unironically came from young male athletes before idols were even a thing.
Since having a girlfriend requires you to spend time and it would distract you from training, it was not unusual that the big baseball teams would have a ban on the boys having girlfriends, and being seen outside of the camp fooling around with girls (even if there wasn't anything sexual going on) was basically frowned upon (fans would think that the boy isn't taking this as seriously as his colleagues, and it would also impact on the image of the team). You could make a parallel between them with monks, that would also practice celibacy, and not give in to carnal desires.
Fast forward to late 90s/early 00s, during the initial boon of young idols (initial idols weren't young girls), many companies adopted the same banning culture, and even at the time, some people were skeptical of the true motivation behind it. Regardless, the ban still made sense for most, being that idols were held to an even higher standard of pureness, where they can't swear, they don't shit, and aren't interested in having sex, anything related to love is in the most platonic sense. Some cases of idols being seen with boyfriends in love hotels and the like would even be on the news.
And now we have the unicorns that comes from the mythical legend that unicorns hates women who are not pure of heart.
But just like the culture behind it, aside from the most extremists of the unicorns, even the unicorns are fine when the interaction is strictly professional, and basically don't just look like a couple having fun together (as that would seen as impure).
All of this "problem" comes from the western culture basically having nothing like that in the past, the closest thing I can think of are priests and nuns that also devote themselves to something else and thus, are not permitted to give in to worldly desires like sex, but it would be a long bridge between that and vtubers.
There is also the fact that most of the western audience doesn't understand the whole "idol" concept, and they are only seen as entertainers, which are sometimes famous for the opposite, where they have extremely unstable relationships and are always somehow involved in drama about their ever changing relationships.

Either way, Nijisanji kept walking on the entertainer road, while Hololive found success on the idol road. And despite Hololive sometimes being seen as this big bastion as to what idols are, true real life idols have much harsher standards, to the point where many times Hololive staff themselves wonder if their talents can even be called idols (as that could be an insult to real life idols).
And despite Nijisanji sometimes being seen so crude, even their staff have standards for what entertainers do too, just look for the SKB deleted stream.

>>54216872
Imagine my surprise when I see there's 0 discussion about the actual contents of the streams/server event. Instead it's the same semantics war they've been having for the past 2 years.

>>54217071
>It's because they're great entertainers, right? And not because they pander to your whims.
The two things go hand in hand you fucking retard.

>VCR thread only gains traction after translated clips are out
KEK way to out yourselves, EOPtards

>>54217269
It was a famous hypnotist. Essentially, they hired a magician. He didn't grope anybody or do anything inappropriate at all. Even Noel trusted him.
But the visual is great meme fodder for thirsty homobeggars, eager for anything they can exploit to "pwn the incels". None of Pekora's fans were bothered by it. Do you really think Cover staff would let some fat old guy into their studio and molest their talents?

the people who joined the server are the ones who are already ok with male collabs. if you watch a chuuba that you know collabs with males and you know that it bothers you then that's your own problem.
most of hololive won't join, why not go support their streams?

>>54213168
none of the people who make these threads watch streams
most of them don't even watch clips
I don't know why they're here, either

>>54217878
It's been a week that I unsubbed Botan channel
I'm not completely against male collab but two in a row is practically a fuck you moment, and each of those collabs have almost a week of duration

>>54217735
>Imagine my surprise when I see there's 0 discussion about the actual contents of the streams/server event
Who cares about that shit? It's just some boring GTA roleplay thing. Shitposting is way more fun.

>>54218121
>If you don't like something you don't watch streams
Fuck you, I just finished Subaru Persona 5 last vod and I'm gonna play a game and then watch Miko vod

>>54218310
then watch the streams you like instead of shitposting you retarded fucking monkey

>>54218381
I just said I watched retarded, I'm not a big Botan fan but I watch her sometimes so I disappointed she played the whole week in this shit server

>>54218511
she's done this before so why wouldn't she do it now? stick to subaru and miko then, they're safe to watch because they will never join a server like this. and nobody is asking them to join except for stupid beggars who also don't watch streams.

>>54212136
Ha my oshi isn't a whore

>>54217680
I want to raise a counter point because I believe the West actually did have their own version of idoltry with boy bands and the like.
Bands like the Jonas Brothers and Backstreet Boys had massive followings for prebuscent girls and housewives alike, and the zealtry is the same. The mass hysteria when any one of them had a gf scandal was intense and you wouldn't see it unless you looked for it.
The larger public usually just mocked them for it, but there was no grandstanding that they should have their own lives. More like a, "You should've known better dumbasses" kind of tone.

It feels weird because it's like the west has collectively memory-holded stuff like Bieberfever and Beatlemania(not a boy band but obsession was a horrific worldwide scale). If any one of them got a significant other, the paparazzi were all over it and everyone desperately wanted to look into it.
Nowadays, that fanaticism that made boy-bands huge is being channeled into K-pop which is somehow worse in both an exploitative industry to the idols and fans.
The relationship front is different honestly. I've heard stories about fan club presidents attending the weddings of certain kpop stars after they retire, and how that's a normal thing. I don't know enough to make any strong statements about how they handle that.

>>54219413
Although both are after the same thing, their motivations are different. From what I know about boybands, the girls would hate relationships because they wanted to be the one in relationship with the person in question.
Meanwhile, unicorns (not all of course), are named like that because they want the person to remain pure, that would mean no relationships at all, not even with themselves (just like the unicorns from the legends doesn't want to fuck the maiden).
And I do believe that the western audience mostly can only relate to the former because that's what they can gather experience from. Although, of course, there are several examples of the former in the JP fanbase too, but it's easier for them to understand and relate to the latter too.

>>54216746
>narcissistic
I dont think you know what that means, or are you describing yourself? I guess a narcissistic person would be possessive over someone they arent even in a relationship with.

>>54219413
>>54220337
And I would also like to add, how the japanese as a whole are much more platonic in what they call love. So despite being common to see them say that they "love" their oshi, they don't actually mean in the same sense as we do.
A good example are the maid cafes, where people basically pay the girls to treat them with "love", but the platonic love, where she just cares about you, a lot.
In the west, our equivalent is Hooters, where love is anything, except platonic (to the point that it was even an episode of South Park, where Butters fell in love with a hooters waitress).

>>54216426
Seafaq just means South east asians, how new are you?
https://www.youtube.com/live/gvkE3XoJRQo
Just look at the amount of SEA submissions.

>>54218121
>I don't know why they're here, either
here to laugh at the freak show

>>54218511
>big Botan fan
Nice falseflag, Botan told unikeks to fuck off long ago.

>>54213689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HdYtFDD4Hc

Threads like this is why this shithole is ranked lower than /mlp/ as one of the worst boards.

>>54221674
Read again, and once in a while on tournaments isn't that bad but just this month she had like 8 male collabs, why I would stay if I don't watch that kind of content

>>54221674
Even today I heard in 5ch unicorns saying things like "Laplus I don't mind, but seeing bossan like that is kinda you know" and there's lots of replies saying they understand that even though she was in male events before

>>54222045
>>54222178
Coulda sworn Botan told her unicorns to look for someone else if they expected her to cater to them a long ass time ago but well here's your second message saying to look elsewhere I guess?

>>54220402
No. A narcissistic person is exactly as I described:
Someone who barges into other peoples' spaces and hobbies and then demands that they change things to suit their own tastes.
In other words, you.

>>54222840
She didn't. In fact she specifically said that she wasn't going to collab with males outside the rare tournament. She said that during this stream >>54221944.

>>54212136
Ewwww cringe, make a Holo only one and she will join

>>54223071
>Someone who barges into other peoples' spaces and hobbies and then demands that they change things to suit their own tastes.
This also describes Tempus themselves. Or at least Tempus 1. Tempus 2 are being responsible adults and staying inside their own bubble.

>>54223240
Then I guess in her mind this doesn't count either or she changed her mind.

>>54213168
Why do sluts think it is okay to flirt with men and build social relationships with them ON MY TIME? They are free to do as they please on their own time and not tell their audience about it but no, they have to do it in front of the audience that supports their livelihood and is responsible for their success.

Cucks can fuck off.

>>54213948
>>54215885
Based gura.
She also know that miko is the only vtuber that can make gta fun to play.

>>54212136
The sight of Laplus desperately trying to drag male to the collab made me fucking angry. And those men are friendly with Towa. It's like she's the mastermind behind all of that

>>54212732
Just like streamer server Rust. Idol play in their own server. Whores flirt with men in that server

>>54213948
EN fanbase unironically doesn't deserve her

real burger hours

>>54223071
>they change things to suit their own tastes.
Read again thats not what i said, i called (you) a menhera fan which is what you are, calling a spade a spade does not make me a narcissist.

>>54212136
>>54222600
it's an old meta.. but it checks out

>>54223735
EN would be nothing without her, it’s the only positive they have at this point (when she’s actually active) she and fauna are the only bearable ones.

>>54215259
So chumbuds basically?

>>54212136
i dont care, the real problem is that she keeps playing the same fucking game every single day, thats annoying af.

Being jealous of platonic interaction is the most beta energy imaginable. Having no confidence in your chosen partner will only make your relationship suffer. It leads to being controlling and afraid of every interaction.

>>54223240
Damn so she's actually just a liar then? Lmao she's basically what people on this board THINK Kronii is but for real.

>>54227045
Women cheat, it's what they're hardwired to do. In fact in the rate of female infidelity is up 40% in the last 5 years. Letting shit like this fly is why women think they can do whatever they want with no consequences.

>>54213396
go back

>>54213948
Gura is best girl

>>54213948
Shark swims in the based sea

>>54212136
Gura said she would only do it if Miko/hololive set up a server
>>54228449
>>54213948
Is Mas0n the paypig a homobegger cuck, what the fuck was his chat?
>>54214148
>>54214586
Hololive server means no men. the faggots weren't allowed on the minecraft or rust servers. Pretty sure in that same superchat she said she would play if miko set up a server and miku was the one who straight up removed the men's bathroom from the festival on the minecraft server because there would never ever be a male to use it

It is not known that people who demand homo collaborations do not spend time and money on hololive
Non-fans should not request collaborations

>>54227558
The reason that is happening is not because women can talk to men without their SOs getting jealous. It's because the concept of casual sex and that it's meaningless has pervaded everything. That's the real issue, with girl boss types getting bodycounts higher than small countries populations.

>>54212509
Fp true post.

>>54212136
Fuck off.
It's fun to watch so many people collaborating together.

>>54214094
Sister incapable of understanding that sending death threat are worse than just talking in a containment board. I know logical thinking are not your forte sister.

>>54212136
Fuck off BVTM

>>54214881
They can't meme or make a points kek.

>>54213168

>>54212136
Jokes on you, my oshii is in vspo and i dont watch her because I think she's my girlfriend but because she's cute and funny

>>54213689
Hag enjoyers are the most normal of vtuber fan groups

>>54213689

>GTA Roleplay server
>Cringe
>GTA Roleplay serve but in JP
>Celebrated.
How does Japan keep doing it? If they can get Ame to eat bread over their without getting sick then must be doing something right.

>>54229568
This. Women are cheaters.

>>54230589
I always have a good laugh when you guys go from "lmao look at those mentally ill guys getting milked by png e-thots" to "What those girls did to deserve schizos like that in their fanbase"

>>54215164
Revisionist history
What launched them was the coof and everyone being locked in their houses.

>>54217929
>Do you really think Cover staff would let some fat old guy into their studio and molest their talents?
Cover staff already does it themselves so I don't see why they would have an issue with it.

>>54213396
There's nothing wrong with being a unicorn but you turbofaggots need to stop pretending to be (((((CGDCTfags)))))

>>54231156
Hololive was already growing fast since the beginning of 2019, while Covid only appeared at the very end of 2019 and the government around the world just took it seriously months after that, who is the revisionist?

>>54212136
>Makes your oshi interact with men
But my oshi is a man.

/vt/ being so afraid of men is going to lead many of you faggots into trooning out 5 years from now kek

>>54213865
covid and youtube algo are the reasons why hololive is big

>>54231648
Anyone has the compilation of trannies on twitter supporting the homos?

>>54214603
>/vt/ version of idol
KEK

BLAP BLAP GET HOSPITALIZED

>>54214603
kek for all the seething this caused you're based