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What advice would you give to the EN 3 girls who may or may not be lurking here?

>> No.54085460

>>54085405
Stop lurking here.

>> No.54085496

>>54085405
roundhouse kick unicorns into the concrete

>> No.54085513

>>54085405
“Don’t take advice from 4chan”

>> No.54085528

Have fun!

>> No.54085542

If you don't want to deal with unicorns, make it clear in your debut stream that you're interested in collabing with Tempus/Holostars. It's not too hard to slip it in naturally (see Bae's debut)

>> No.54085559

>>54085405
Do NOT use this website unless you are familiar with 4chan culture

>> No.54085572

Please age 10 years before debut

>> No.54085649

>>54085405
take the unicorn pill

>> No.54085706

Collab with males.
Filters out all the schizo unicorns asap.

>> No.54085715

>>54085405
Do the opposite of what /vt/ says

>> No.54085739

Stream on a consistent basis. (4-[5 times a week).
Do not collab with males.
If you are going to collab with males, state that from the get go like Bae, don't fucking turn on your fans a year in like Ame or Kronii.
Do not be friends with Mori.
Stream on a consistent basis.
Show your gratitude to your fans.
Do karaokes on a somewhat regular schedule.
Keep up good communication with your fans.
FUCKING STREAM ON A CONSISTENT BASIS

>> No.54085741

>>54085542
Turned out fine for Mumei, Mori, Kronii, Ame and Ina. Half of ID as well

>> No.54085808

Don't take advice from Mori.

>> No.54085818

talk about your sexual experiences on stream as it will make you more relatable to female viewers

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>>54085405
Yuzuki Choco is not a doctor, do not let her touch your genitals

>> No.54085836

>>54085405
Don't lecture your viewers.
If they demand something you didn't like, just ignore them, they will eventually leave you.
Again the problem is not about homo collab, is about how holomem handle the situation.
Look at bae and kronii.
Both of them collab with homo, but people hate kronii more. Because she tried to lecture her viewers.

>> No.54085861

>>54085405
If mori invites you to play mario party
RUN

>> No.54085868

>>54085405
Study Gura.

>> No.54085884

>>54085405
gl hf

>> No.54085894

Don't neglect your kayfabe too much.

>> No.54085915

>>54085405
Wow these designs are bland.
They look like from a generic budget Fantasy RPG

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>>54085405
Is this architecture I'm seeing

>> No.54085950

>>54085741
>Mumei
One-off with JP homos at JP hours where she didn't talk to them at all
>Mori
Falls under "filtered unicorns early"
>Kronii, Ame
Dead in the wate
>Ina
Has yet to collab with Tempus outside of a cover song
>IDs
SEAfriends are all in arranged marriages so they don't have lonely single men

>> No.54086004

>>54085405
Just stream on a regular basis. Unless you can guarantee that you can retain your numbers, don't have a spotty schedule or you'll start bleeding numbers. Gura and Ayame are exceptions, not the rule.

>> No.54086046

>>54085950
*water

>> No.54086055

>>54085405
love thy fans

>> No.54086072

>>54085739
Based
That's why Fauna is my oshi. She's been absent because she was grooming en3. If she somehow convinced these bitches to stream as consistently as her, then I will member the whole gen at least

>> No.54086076

>>54085405
Drop the kayfabe, even on debut. Don't pretend to be something you're not, the whole point of this gig is that people learn to love the you behind the screen, even if that concept sounds impossible to you.

>> No.54086111

>>54085739
>If you are going to collab with males, state that from the get go like Bae, don't fucking turn on your fans a year in like Ame or Kronii.
someone finally fucking says it
if you wanna do male collabs, sure, be my fucking guest. But don't kayfabe and then change your stance 8 months in, be a big girl and say it upfront.

>> No.54086127

>>54085950
Holy cope anon!

>> No.54086201

>>54085405
don't collab with male vtubers, it isn't worth it. just be friendly off-stream.

>> No.54086203

>>54085405
DON'T READ CHAT JUST HAVE A THREAD OPEN AND RESPONED TO ANONS

>> No.54086235

>>54085405
marry me tummy slut

>> No.54086271

>>54085405
Ignore Tempus.

>> No.54086309

>>54085405
The corpo and its fans don't have your best interests in mind.
Leave with the clout if you're able or take the Gura route if merch money is super good.

>> No.54086330

You know what? I'm just going to say it. Each of the new girls should be asked on debut if they will collab with Homos or not and then be held to those answers. This way, they can set expectations from the get-go and there won't be any drama.

>> No.54086357

>>54085405
STAY AWAY FROM TEMPUS

>> No.54086374

>>54085460
fpbp

>> No.54086403

>>54086201
Many vtubers do exactly this and unicorns STILL seethe when the info of that happening shows up accidentally on stream

>> No.54086412

>>54085405
Only one thing which is probably the most important one , dont bite the hand that feeds you

>> No.54086424

Ban everyone who talks about male personalities, for or against, with extreme prejudice. Unless there's context that you have provided for them to be doing so, they do not have your interests at heart.

>> No.54086442
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54086442

Actually be funny and gifted at commentary unlike anyone else in your branch. Actually enjoy streaming.

>> No.54086463

>>54085706
perfect 3 view speedrun, at least at start

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>>54086076
>Don't pretend to be something you're not
Terrible advice for playing an anime girl.

>> No.54086513

Go ask for a redesign ASAP because all these characters look mid

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>>54085405
Hey, you know.. there is a cultural /vt/ football league called Divegrass and you can become a guest commentator for free! Or If do a matches watchalong, it will be pretty based.

>> No.54086564

So much unironic incel insecurity in this thread holy fucking shit. At least pray that these women are actually entertaining, you sad fucks

>> No.54086569

>>54085405
many others would kill to get your chance
don't blow this

>> No.54086578

>>54086403
what part of off-stream do you not understand? doesn't matter if it is an accident, off-stream mean off-stream, be careful so that doesn't happen.

>> No.54086581

If you want to collab with the homo or the males if you're a newfag lurking here just to see the reaction, make like Bae and just announce it outright.
Do not let the one or two schizos spamming the catalog with Bae threads deter you from doing so.
Do not become a catalognigger if you plan to stay lurking here.
You should not stay luring here after debut.
Pronouncing yourself as a homocollaber may tank your debut growth by a bit and you might play catch up if most of your Gen pander to unicorns, but it will be better in the long run.
Autism gets views, show us your personal autism.

>> No.54086624

>>54085405
live fast and eat ass

>> No.54086693

>>54085741
Besides Mumei who memory holed and Ina that was just a song all of those are in the bottom of holoEN
>muh Kiara
It's simple, her personality is a bigger debuff than the unicorn buff

>> No.54086697

>>54085405
Dont be an ungrateful whore like Sana

>> No.54086729

>>54085405
Listen to Mori Calliope advice

>> No.54086762

>>54086578
Irrelevant, one of the girls could post something on her nin vtuber account and you fucks will STILL seethe about it. There's no winning with you unicorns, every vtuber is better off not even acknowledging (You) fucks

>> No.54086769

>>54085715
they were already going to do that anyway because they're women and they love going against everything chuds say even if it's logical. but now you've created a paradox

>> No.54086828

>>54085559
>Do NOT use this website
ftfy

>> No.54086946
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54086946

Hope you like dealing with incels kek that's all your hardcore fans are going to be. So you better scrub your socials and may as well nuke all your social media and wear a disguise when going out.

>> No.54086948

>>54086076
Pekora, Korone, Gura, Miko and majority of the bigger holos all do kayfabe, what shit advice is that?

>> No.54086951

>>54086076
Terrible advice for someone prone to have a menhera episodes

>> No.54086955

Be transparent and filter your audience early on. That can be anything from game choice, whether you want chat to treat you like a girlfriend or not, whether you want to collab with males/holostars or not, etc. Just know there's going to be drawbacks to whatever you do, but this is a high-stress job and making clear the kind of audience you want early on will lower that significantly. You're not here to please everyone. Good luck and have fun.

>> No.54086961

Stream a lot, dont play too long ass game, try various stuff even if you are not good at it... Cherish your fan, don't preach them but dont let them command you.

>> No.54086972

>>54086581
>Pronouncing yourself as a homocollaber may tank your debut growth by a bit
it is still tanking Bae now, but people are more forgiven of her since she announced it day one. Aside from that only Kronii and Mori suffer because they collabed too many times with the homos. unicorns is still the META for success.

>> No.54086974

>>54085460
/thread

>> No.54087002

>>54085405
SEX
WITH TWINS

>> No.54087003

>>54085405
If you're reading anything these dickheads write, you're probably setting yourself up for failure

There is no one yab that will get you fired unless you don't want to be there

Aggressively ignore this place and filter the unicorns as fast as humanly possible to avoid a not yab yab

>> No.54087036

>>54086076
>drop kayfabe
Don't drop it too hard. Keep up op-sec and don't pull another rushia. And understand the audience here is largely for escapism so try not to act too much like a 'real' girl. If I wanted a bitchy, overly opinionated, obnoxious woman to talk to I'd go see my sister, not watch some 2D mo-cap anime girl.

>> No.54087047

>>54086564
Dilate.

>> No.54087073

>>54085405
ONLY go hard on kayfabe if you know you can keep it up. If you're not a method actor or didn't watch a decade of wrestling then don't fucking bother and just be a glorified fleshtuber with an anime avatar.
Save us the trouble.

>> No.54087087

>>54085405
JUST
FUCKING
STREAM

>> No.54087113

>>54086762
>homobeggars seethe
finally show your true color faggot, you don't even support your own homos, your opinion is safely put in the trash.

>> No.54087126

>>54085405
>advice
How about FUCKING STREAM?
Also dont collab with males. Thats all.

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>>54086762
>every vtuber
The biggest holos are unicorn friendly, I don't get where do you guys take this idea

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>>54085405
Mori 2
Gura 2
Kroni 2
Fubuki 2 and 3
All the designs are boring and repetitive. Shit that has already been seen before.

>> No.54087247

>>54085405
don't acknowledge m*les

>> No.54087246

>>54086111
idiot acting like tempus debuted at the same time as council kek pea brained retard

>> No.54087254

Don't complain and embrace the lewds of the community fan arts

>> No.54087262

>>54086972
I can't take you seriously when you've gone full ESLchama on me sorry

>> No.54087327

I NEVE STOPPED BELIEVING IN YOU TWO BUT PLEASE LOSE THE THICK ACCENT
MUCH LOVE!

>> No.54087354

>>54085405
Co-starring NG holostars male streamer
Carrying on the hololive culture

>> No.54087398

>>54087113
You're the only cockgobbler in the thread

>> No.54087404

>>54087113
Shitty deflection, how about you refute what I said instead? Mumei and Fauna never once mentioned any males in their debut week yet this board called them whores after those doxbeat posts

>> No.54087405

>>54085542
>If you don't want to deal with unicorns, make it clear in your debut stream that you're interested in collabing with Tempus/Holostars.
This. If you want to regularly collab with Tempus it's better to make that clear from your debut so your viewers know what to expect.

>> No.54087448

>>54085460
Please for the love of god. This.

>> No.54087492

>>54085405
just specify reall quick if you will do male collabs so we dont have another kronii situation

>> No.54087550
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54087550

Help make EN 3 a "Golden Generation" like JP 3 and ID 3

https://poal.me/tvncka
https://poal.me/tvncka
https://poal.me/tvncka

>> No.54087578

>>54086955
This. Except never collab with males because it's a terrible idea and it'll cripple your growth. Even if you think it's a good idea, no, it isn't. Just don't do it.

>> No.54087582

>>54085405
Avoid the mistake Kronii made and think you can treat your new job like you're still streaming on Twitch.
This goes double for hiring your friends as mods and treating them as elevated members.

>> No.54087587

>>54085706
This would work anywhere besides holo, you'll get lots of hate in any collab, song, concert that there's other holomems and since hololive always has those events you'll get hate anyway, the difference is that you'll have less viewers and superchat

>> No.54087670

>>54086972
Sora and Fubuki are still loved. Same with Miko. Most of ID too. Go be a numberfaggot somewhere else

>> No.54087698

>>54086111
I don't watch them. What happened? They said they wouldn't collab with men?

>> No.54087712

>>54086564
Go watch the homos, some are literally 2 view, your help would be appreciated

>> No.54087730

>>54085405
Don't stream in the same 5 hour window as everyone else.

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/thread

>> No.54087824

>>54087698
> there were no males
> Males debuted 8 months later

These people are retards, pay them less than no mind

>> No.54087830

>>54087246
Retard fucking ESL, there were other ways of doing it. Mori made it clear she was a male collaber with Trash Taste collabs and such.

>> No.54087851

>>54086076
What are you talking about? The best ones begin with a strong character development based on her model, and gradually put little sprinkles of her real self
Whats the point of being a vtuber if you can't act a little and sell the fantasy?

>> No.54087859

>>54086693
>her personality is a bigger debuff than the unicorn buff

kek

>> No.54087897

>>54086076
Ignore this fucking retard this is terrible advice. You don't have to lie about everything but you should definitely have a little bit of kayfabe.

>> No.54087901

>>54087802
I don't see fauna streaming for the cucklings, chud

>> No.54087904

>>54087712
> homos

> fucking TERRIFIED of a woman even speaking to them

Have just a little bit of faith in your delusion your horned faggot

>> No.54087908

I just want an EN Polka. Somebody extremely passionate about making creative projects. Bae's show was cute but it wasn't the same.

>> No.54087921

Not living with men in the same house
Not sharing the same game console
Don't freely do things when the viewer tells you you can do them
Respect the viewer and hololive

>> No.54087922

>>54087712
I watch both male and female branches and other corpos because I like vtubing in general. None of these girls are your girlfriend nor actual anime girls, get over it

>> No.54087938

Dont ask /vt/ any advice and stay away from this place like the plague... This place will only harm you mentally theres nothing worth the stress here.

>> No.54087948

>>54085405
Stream a lot. Thats literally all it takes to be liked in HoloEN the bar is set that low

>> No.54088016

>>54087670
Miko has been more than 4 years ago, Fubuki had like 3 collabs this whole year and Sora almost never collabed besides being on their chat, calling on anniversary and doing song

>> No.54088040

>>54085405
Don't collab with males.

>> No.54088110

>>54085405
Collab with males.

>> No.54088117

>>54085405
Don't kill your growth with breaks for dumb shit like 'back hurt' or 'my friend's fish died'

>> No.54088137

>>54087851
which ENs do you consider to have began with a strong character development based on their model? Genuine question. Because imo anyone who has actually tried to lean into it hard had a god awful debut

>> No.54088154

>>54087908
Ame WAS like that her first year and a half.

>> No.54088160

>>54087922
>like vtubing in general
So a casual
I have 5 oshis and can't keep up with them, you must be a unemployed fag to watch all vtubers in the world

>> No.54088184

>>54087921
If they step into this shit without knowing those first two things, they deserve whatever comes at them afterwards

>> No.54088237

Take a look at JPGEN3.
Take care of your fans
Don't get involved with men
Don't just stream for your own enjoyment
Stream frequently

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>>54088160
>5 oshis
Whore

>> No.54088343

>>54085405
Find and fucking deletes your fucking internet stuff from the last 10thousand years. Including your family stuff if you can.

>> No.54088384

>>54085405
Pander to fetishes, sspecially feet and armpits

>> No.54088385

>>54088160
If she ain't my oshi, I'm not gonna bother watching streams. Clips and threads are enough

>> No.54088397

>>54085405
Thankfully you've got three years of history on the EN side. You can pore over what works, what doesn't. What kills your growth what maintains it. Try to maintain good relations, it's a lot easier to do this if you get along with the people you work with.

>> No.54088417

No one gives a shit about the grimdark lore. Follow Chloe's example and drop it the second the lore video ends and just be cute.

>> No.54088425

>>54088016
The point is that male collabs are irrelevant. Unicorns fuck off and it hardly makes a dent in the viewership if the girl continues streaming consistently. All the posts suggesting the girls don't collab with males are just insecure coomer faggots with a cuckold fetish, why else would they treat a co-ed collab as some kind of betrayal? It's simply not sane

>> No.54088458

>>54085950
from SEA and yes, ppl here are married mostly at 20~26 yo, and yes me and my wife love hololive, her oshi is Shien while mine is Towa

>> No.54088489

>>54087901
she streamed just a few hours ago retard

>> No.54088494
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54088494

This will help you understand how harmful Stars is.
To associate with them is like committing suicide.

>> No.54088524

>>54085405
Pay attention to who is successful and who isn't and choose your role models accordingly.

>> No.54088527
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>>54088298
I'm the harem type

>> No.54088538

>>54088425
ok mori

>> No.54088552

>>54085405
this is a job, it's a role, you're playing a part.
if you want to be retarded then just look at Mori and Kronii
and if u want to be a nobody take advice from Mori and become like Bae.
she young and stupid.

>> No.54088564

>>54087901
You idiot, she literally just streamed

>> No.54088576

>>54085405
Publicly break up with your boyfriend on social media, preferably months ago
You don't actually have to break up but it will keep the schizos off you.

>> No.54088602

>>54085405
Those twins better be minks for foxes, felines or canines

>> No.54088628

>>54085405
stream like if you care

>> No.54088636

>>54085542
kys

>> No.54088640

>>54085405
tell them to stop lurking here, i already know one of them is menhera

>> No.54088704

>>54085460
fpbp

>> No.54088727

>>54088425
Okay, wait to Pekora say that she has a boyfriend and she wouldn't receive any backlash

>> No.54088786

>>54087901
LOL what do you think she's been doing? Ik you're just shitposting with my oshis name but earlier in her stream she all but admitted to grooming en3. If they are anything like Fauna..
>streams constantly
>clear gfe / male collab stance
>actually likes streaming and her
>likes her coworkers and at least tolerates her viewers
If they become mini fauna, twin faunas, tall Fauna and chuuni Fauna then it's a miracle

>> No.54088790

>>54088538
>No argument
Stay losing, it's your 3rd worlder tradition

>> No.54088805

>>54085460
fpbp

>> No.54088815

>>54088397
Unless you're like Mori or Kronii and don't know shit about Hololive and didn't care to look over the history of it.

>> No.54088867

>>54085405
Tempus collab never benefits anyone except the boys.

>> No.54088870

>>54085405
stream during EU times? please? just one? maybe?

>> No.54088896

>>54085496
>>54085513
>>54085542
Based. Unicorns deserve Johnny Cage's Fatality from MKX.

>> No.54088907

>>54085460
Fpbp
Thread closed

>> No.54088923

>>54085405
Do YAB streams on Twitch, Picarto, Rumble, Kick or on some other site. Avoid doing any suggestive streams on Youtube

>> No.54088956

>>54085868
This if you actually want to succeed, follow her path like Mumei and Fauna. The thing is, Gura just follows the top holoJP path (Pekora, Marine, Miko, Subaru, etc). If you're a holoJP idolfag then you don't need advice, you're way ahead of the curve already. Any of those 4 are fantastic examples of how to conduct yourself professionally.
But really, you can't really be anything other than yourself. So really, it's hard for me to have any expectations. I can hope for a godlike gacha draw but that's about it.

>> No.54088994

>>54088896
Cringe

>> No.54089009

>>54085405
If you dont want antis dont collab with Tempus.

>> No.54089018

>>54088790
ok sis

>> No.54089027

>>54088896
go back

>> No.54089040

>>54088896
I never realized how cringe game references like these are outside of YouTube comment sections, which are peak cringe there

>> No.54089042

>>54085405
Would you like a successful, stress-free, yab-free career? DONT COLLAB WITH DUDES. You have the other 99.5% of your life to hang out with all the guys you want, just play it safe, make lots of money, and have no worries. To do otherwise is just being a stubborn, ignorant retard.

>> No.54089061

>>54085405
Be honest about what your content will be from the very start

>> No.54089100

>>54085405
Watch Kronii's first couple weeks. Remember how she would say the funny lines chat told her to and say the funny memes and put on that whole act? don't do that. look at the fanbase it got her.

>> No.54089114

>>54085405
Avoid homos.

>> No.54089138

>>54088956
>like Mumei and Fauna
lol

>> No.54089151

>>54089042
>just being a stubborn, ignorant retard.
Anon, they're women.

>> No.54089174

>>54088896
go back

>> No.54089193

>>54089138
It's 2023 and they've been idols for quite a while now, are you living in the past or something?

>> No.54089234

>>54089114
But anon, then they'd have to avoid (You)

>> No.54089250

IGNORE MALES
JP bros will immediately leave you otherwise and you will lose the algorithm boost from them

>> No.54089260

>>54088137
>EN
hard pass

>> No.54089270

>>54085405
80% of EN yabs come from interacting with Tempus

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>>54085405
https://youtu.be/P6DcLalmvkI?t=180
Haachama will return and mock your lore heavy debut with one of her own. Use this moment to get into a rap battle with her a la laplus in order to get eyes from JP holos on you. Commanding respect from all 3 branches will go a long way toward becoming the G*ra K*ller you're destined to become.

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>>54085405
-Don't listen to 4chan, reddit or twitter
-Collab with males sparingly
-As per above, be professional and crystal clear when explaining you wish to collab with males
-Don't be a stereotypical western woman
-Deal with any issue internally and quietly
-Don't summon the twittard mob to defend you
-Don't hide behind management for the things you say/do
-Love your fans
-Focus on entertaining, not on "owning the haters"
-If you can't actively stream, at least be communicative through other platforms
-Don't bring up politics and identity culture anywhere

>> No.54089356

>>54089250
Who the fuck cares if JP veiwers stop watching EN?

>> No.54089374

>>54089100
Wrong. Kronii got that fanbase because she never fucking put her foot down on anything, except ironically, collabing with Homos. She encourages attentionwhoring and spamming which encourages Kronies to try and be mini celebrities. Infinity always looks like a Discord chat. Her spamming voice lines was the only time she was actually likeable, she has no personality otherwise.

>> No.54089391

>>54085405
think before you talk, as rrats can be spun out of anything

>> No.54089417

don't be generic and don't lean on trends too much.

>> No.54089423

>>54088154
Ame has been such a disappointment the past year
So many promising showings and projects in her first year or so just to putter out from potatoing and tummyhort

>> No.54089433

Ignore male Vtubers. If you want collab with male collab with actual celeb like Nicholas Cage.

>> No.54089506

>>54089193
Are you being willingly ignorant, new or just stupid?

>> No.54089511

Dont let anyone tell you who you wanna collab or not. Its your job, your fun, your time and your life. Audience will always be there as long you make good content. Keep good relationships with your sempais and dont assume youre already set. Its a hard road ahead to get at least 500k suscribers.

Its good looking for feedback but known this place is full of unstable people who will ask the most ridiculus things not based on youre success or well being but based on their own desires and personal intrests.

Do what will make you everyday be happy to turn on the obs and stream. That is what will guarantee you to stay for a long time.

>> No.54089564

>>54087578
The drawback is possibly making less money than your genmates, but still "fuck you" money in the long run. The benefit is more potential variety in content and not having to worry about stepping on eggshells or dealing with a unicorn schizo freakout later down the line like what happened with Kronii. Bae probably has the healthiest/most stable fanbase in all of EN for that reason.

>> No.54089579

>>54085405
At least stream 4 or 5 times a week after your debut hype dies down. And now get the fuck out of here. Close the fucking tab and don't come back.

>> No.54089607

>>54089356
The algorithm will recommend the channel to non-JP viewers too, just like Gura's Duolingo

>> No.54089609

>>54089138
KEK , true though

>> No.54089614

>>54089511
Follow this guy's advice if you don't care about being successful

>> No.54089617

>>54089348
Do you need Bae2? hell no

>> No.54089622

>>54085405
Be EN Koyori. Stream a lot.
List Gura, Suisei, Marine or other loved hololive members as your oshi so their fan will also like you.
Avoid collab with males

>> No.54089664

>>54089511
The only reasonable post so far because it's made in favor of the girl's well being first and foremost

>> No.54089702

>>54089511
slay queen

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>>54085405
Avoid the homoshits. Their fans are mentally ill, they don't care about watching streams or supporting the talents and only care about winning their culture war about them evil incels.
Case on point NijiEN literally lost their second biggest talent because of how dogshit their fans are.
Also don't ego search unless you have a really strong mental fortitude and know how to deal with the internet. Keep in mind some third worlders LITERALLY make a living by spreading drama about Vtubers.
Keep in the Hololive walled garden and you're absolutely fucking fine. You'll be a millionaire in a few years.

>> No.54089759

>>54089564
You have to actively try to spite your fanbase to get a freakout like Kronii's. Her unarchived member stream pacified literally every single one, even Gabe and Aliaga Ayin. It's what she did immediately after that soured everyone. You have to chug full on stupid bitch juice, AKA listen to Mori and go "fuck the haters" mode.

>> No.54089764

>>54089423
well i guess you got the abusive neet wife you deserved

>> No.54089805

>>54089506
Meds please
You are clearly hallucinating different words on your screen again

>> No.54089814

>>54089506
I just don't use outdated data to make present conclusions, especially when circumstances dramatically change

>> No.54089830

>>54089506
doxfags are always so brainded kek. He's talking about following Gura's steps regarding male collabs, you fucking retard. Sticking to CGCDT and consistent streaming is all you need for success.

>> No.54089832

It's never worth it to shoot yourself in the foot for a couple of streams. This is a marathon.

>> No.54089849

>>54089511
>If you don't care about success then do whatever you want
Why even join a corpo if you just want to have fun, be a indie or something

>> No.54089884

>>54089735
this. the so-called "homofans" don't even watch the homos, they just want to win internet arguments

>> No.54089928

Stay away from the homos. It's that easy

>> No.54089948

>>54089759
who the fuck shit in your head that you remember viewers names ? what the fuck is wrong with you?

>> No.54089958

>>54085405
HoloEN3 gals, if you are /here/, here's my little advice for (You)
>Dont be council 2.0, learn from their mistake
>sit down and have a discussion among your genmates on the following topic : scheduling, contents, audience (which is the best content for which timezone and which audience), and your goals, to set a clear vision moving forwards.
>regarding contents and audience, discuss it among yourself which kind is your target. Ex. If one is a hardcore gfe, one is music focus etc. To avoid heavy overlap.
>Go all out on the content and audience that you've chosen unless you want to ended up like Bae running around not sure what she wants to do.
>Lastly and the most important! Be ambitious on establishing yourself as the unparalled overlord over EN vtuber market. Dont give any competitor a chance to even contest your dominance.
Godspeed on your debut and may The Watamage bless you!

>> No.54089986

>>54089735
>Avoid appealing to unicorns. Their fans are mentally ill, they don't care about watching streams or supporting the talents and only care about using you as a stand in for a girlfriend
ftfy

>> No.54089989

Don't use "senpai" when speaking English. It's fucking cringe.

>> No.54090026

Don't come in here
Numbers are important but don't make them your sole purpose
GRIND the first couple of months, then you can take it easy
Try to understand what makes Hololive special
No stars collabs

Hell in the end, do whatever the fuck you want, you will still get followers.

>> No.54090027

>>54085825
The fuck, bro!? Let her cook

>> No.54090030

>>54089986
fans... of unicorns? are you ok sis?

>> No.54090056

>>54085405
Don't create/cause drama for your senpais.

>> No.54090060

>>54089986
keep seething homobeggar kek

>> No.54090064

>>54089958
and don't interact with Holostars/males

>> No.54090065

>>54089958
>Dont be council 2.0, learn from their mistake
And what's that?

>> No.54090068

>>54089989
This

>> No.54090081

Don't lurk or egosa on 4chan you retards

>> No.54090102

>>54085405
i dont care about all that, all i know is if the twin vtubers are actually gonna be twins that vibe well or just awkward people who just met each other

>> No.54090115

>>54089948
It's a kronie what do you expect?

>> No.54090131

>>54089948
>having alzheimer is the normal
I barely see the comments but I remember more than 50 recurrent members in Subaru's stream, just have a good memory

>> No.54090158

>>54085405
Just do what makes you happy and ignore retards trying to control you one way or another. Most streamers/youtubers get tired of their gig fairly quickly when they try their hardest to appease everyone and inevitably start disliking this whole thing. Just chill out, play with whoever you want to play with and try to have as much fun as possible. Also please do your best to stream consistently, even if it's not every day. Once you stop being consistent people tend to lose interest and once that happens, they rarely go back to see if you've improved. Also don't forget that you're a holo meaning that you will get a handful of stalkery creeps in your chat. It comes with this whole gif, just shadowban retards in your chat straight away.

>> No.54090186 [DELETED] 

Kill unicorns. Behead unicorns. Roundhouse kick a unicorns into the concrete. Slam dunk a unicorns baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy unicorns. Defecate in a unicorns food. Launch unicorns into the sun. Stir fry unicorns in a wok. Toss unicorns into active volcanoes. Urinate into a unicorns gas tank. Judo throw unicorns into a wood chipper. Twist unicorns heads off. Report unicorns to the IRS. Karate chop unicorns in half. Curb stomp pregnant unicorns. Trap unicorns in quicksand. Crush unicorns in the trash compactor. Liquefy unicorns in a vat of acid. Eat unicorns. Dissect unicorns. Exterminate unicorns in the gas chamber. Stomp unicorns skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate unicorns in the oven. Lobotomize unicorns. Mandatory abortions for unicorns. Grind unicorns fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown unicorns in fried chicken grease. Vaporize unicorns with a ray gun. Kick unicorns down the stairs. Feed unicorns to alligators. Slice unicorns with a katana. Curb stomp all unicorns!

>> No.54090197

>>54090060
Man hardly anyone on this board can talk since they seethe about cock unprompted every other post

>> No.54090255

>>54090197
so true sister

>> No.54090268

>>54086076
Terrible advice, go watch fleshbags instead.

>> No.54090338

>>54090065
>lazy
>directionless
>againts their fans in some occations
>retarded
>no motivation whatsoever nor goals
>no ambition

>> No.54090356

>>54090158
That's why holoEN is in this state, Pekora, Korone and several JP holos are in the grind since before holoEN existed and you guys are already saying they did enough to someone who didn't even debuted kek

>> No.54090387

>>54090131
>Reading comments
why would you do that to yourself? you´re there to watch the talent not her fans , this is actually retarded

and for EN3 : you shouldnt give a fuck what a tiny part of your "fans" think dont get "One guy´d"

>> No.54090416

There are absolutely zero benefits to male collaborations. That is a hard fact. No one has ever been in a better place because of them.

>> No.54090427

>>54090158
>>54090186
Dont listen to these retards. Just study gura and pekora

>> No.54090428

>>54090158
Sound advice. I'd also add letting the audience know when you have to take care of personal stuff that will affect stream consistency. Try to stay active on twitter in some capacity to show the audience you still think of them and care about streaming activities

>> No.54090429

simply remember you are on hololive and not nijisanji

>> No.54090455

>>54085405
Do not collab with men, you'll lose money.

>> No.54090470

>>54085405
Listen to what Kiara said about male collabs.

>> No.54090487

>>54086111
Ame was oshi'ing Shien at debut, there should of been no surprise. Kronii didn't even acknowledge male VTubers for her first year.

>> No.54090491

>>54090338
>ESLnigger

>> No.54090522

>>54089617
NTA but pretty sure he was taking swipes at kronii, mori and ame.

>> No.54090560

>>54090455
>Do not collab with men or I will not give you my money out of spite
ftfy

>> No.54090608

>>54090338
You're aware that kronii and sana aren't the only 2 Council members right?

>> No.54090640

>>54090560
so true sister

>> No.54090669

ITT: Unicorns scrambling to gain control of EN3

>> No.54090679

>>54090470
You mean the time she said she wanted to be a part of the dingo's song collab but all the spots were filled?

>> No.54090712

Make it clear what product you're offering, and do not stray from it. Are you an idol or not? Do not commit fraud.

>> No.54090724

>>54085405
Lmao

>> No.54090745

>>54090387
I don't like full screen so the comments stay in the side, like I said, I barely see the comments but sometimes I see a comment in my peripheral vision and I remember the name, simple as that

>> No.54090764

DO. NOT. SUPPORT. "THE CAUSE"
I mean, you can in your private life, but not as a Hololive member

>> No.54090771

>>54090560
its self explanatory you retard , if you pedlle the goods i´ll buy, if you stop peddling what i want i´ll leave

>> No.54090831

>>54090669
>gain control
They're just stating what would happen, say one good thing that came out of male collabs

>> No.54090837

>>54090679
No, what she said about male collabs killing your growth.

>> No.54090848

>>54090470
yeah she was very open and diplomatic about this perfect was to handle it

>> No.54090864

>>54089849
So... in your view streamers should be miserable, hate their job and just live faking happines to just get their pay at the end of the month? Is that what you expect from youre favorite? And you call youreself a fan?

>> No.54090899

>>54090429
This is actually really important to consider. The fanbase you are inheriting is hololive's (not to be mistaken for reddit, twitter, or even here). Look at their top talents and the overarching culture. If you respect that you should be fine.

>> No.54090918

>>54090864
It's a job not a hobby.

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>>54089986
Unicorns are the ones superchatting, buying merchandise and being in membership and watching streams, on a regular basis.

The last post made by a tempus fan on reddit, whining about getting downdoots, got over 3k updoots. Yet the boys are STILL severely underperforming. You sisters are incapable of putting your money where your mouth is, which makes you worse than chink fujos. More SCs, less "owning the unicorns" /here/, sister.

>> No.54090924

>>54087670
Fubuki 3 collabs this year. Sora has only done 1 actual collab with Stars (ever).

>> No.54090939

>>54090712
No one in EN is an idol you idolfaggot, hardly anyone in hololive is. You fell for the love live style marketing

>> No.54090963

>>54085405
Just do it, do the debut. Too many teasers.
I would laugh my ass off if the hype died because of too many teasing and then suddenly a few months later ID4 debuted without any useless lore or teaser and they're doing better than EN3.

>> No.54090992
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54090992

Reading this thread makes me hope it's just because it's /those/ hours because it'd be a bitter pill to swallow if these are the people I talk to day by day

>> No.54091020

>>54090939
stars fans try not to anti hololive girls challenge [impossible]

>> No.54091042

>>54090831
Watching unicorns /here/ seethe while the girls keep growing regardless

>> No.54091046

>>54090939
you cant be this retarded and blind ....

>> No.54091079

>>54090864
Imagine being this dramatic, holoEN doesn't do half of what holoJP does and you guys cry that they're overworked and shit like that, as I said, if you don't have the personality to work then be a indie or something

>> No.54091084

>>54088896
What is this YouTube comment section shit?

>> No.54091096

>>54086076
Kill yourself retard. You are poisoning the culture

>> No.54091117

>>54088425
Why are you spreading obvious lies sister?

>> No.54091188

>>54091042
Growing in reverse, Fauna is the only one who gained viewers since last year

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>>54090669
ITT: Actual paying and supportive customers giving pointers to potentially successful Hololive streamers, rather than tweeting and posting on reddit "as emotional support".

Imagine that.

>> No.54091192

>>54090918
It is. They are entretainers so idk why people complain about men or women. They are just doing their job and everything is strictly buisness. So all this parasocialism about "homobeggars" and "unicors" its just plain stupid. They dont know or care about any of us same as a salesman dont care about you. It might act friendly and smile to you but its to sell you their product at the end of the day we are just numbers. Do you agree or now you want something to be real?

>> No.54091194

>>54091020
The same goes for the stars you retard. Only a small handful of any of the talents did any idol, seiyuu or utaite stuff before joining/becoming a vtuber

>> No.54091256

>>54090864
No, they should have applied to a place that they share their values with the talents and the fanbase to avoid conflict. If not, then they should at least try to respect it.

>> No.54091283

>>54091194
it's actually only true of holostars EN, the reddit generation

>> No.54091345

>>54091190
>tweeting

Excuse me sir i agree with everything you said but tweeting is dead its writing an "x"now

>> No.54091410

>>54091188
And she's the one who got called whore the most during debut by unicorns /here/. Disingenuous fucks all of (You)

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>>54090939
Quit trying to project kronii, bae, ame and mori onto HoloJP. It's like trying to smear shit on a Pagani Huayra.

>> No.54091441

>>54089511
So, just be a drama whore and cause problems for all the other girls?

>> No.54091522

>>54085405
If you can't stream for whatever reason then for fuck's sake just communicate somewhere else. Twitter, the YouTube community tab, whatever. Don't leave your audience in the dark if you're going to be absent for more than a day or two.

>> No.54091526

>twins
The nepotism is strong in EN.

>> No.54091567

>>54091410
well she´s still a whore , fucking fair weather faggots

>> No.54091573

>>54085405
ALL
OUT
WAR

>> No.54091592
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54091592

>be consistent
choose a time slot and stick with it. You don't have to stream 10 hours per day, 3 hours at the same time every other day will do far better. Once the initial hype wears down you want your fans to tune in out of habit. Humans are creatures of habit.
>learn to deal with drama and criticism
no matter how fucking good and harmless you are you'll still get some schizos seething at you. Keep in mind most of them are third world trolls or jealous fans of certain rival corpos. Either learn to cope with that shit in a healthy way or stay awar from this shithole.
>don't collab with Tempiss
Hololive's appeal for the vast majority of people is CGDCT. Not everyone is into gfe or parasocial romantic stuff, a lot of people simply want Hololive to not turn into NijiEN. If you want mixed collabs join them, that's their thing and look how well it's working.
>game variety
perms are a pain in the ass but I'm pretty sure there are some absolute gems out there that no one else is playing. Please avoid spamming FOMO crap that everyone else is already doing. ESPECIALLY if it's some long running JRPG slop. This place is a shithole but I'm pretty sure if you ask for game ideas in global you'll get quite a lot of interesting advice.
>music
more of a personal request but again I'd love to see some variety and uniqueness. Look what Mori achieved with her cringe Jrap. Why? It was unique. Don't just spam generic Jpop anime OPs.

>> No.54091620

>>54089986
Why do you want the EN3 girls to fail?

>> No.54091627

>>54091441
How tf you come to that conslusion? That what YOU would do clearly but normally people dont have that wicked personality

>> No.54091708

listen to Mori at your own peril

>> No.54091747

>>54091410
Did she made a collab with the fags?
No, you have your answer

>> No.54091753

>>54091432
A third of holojp barely do any idol activities regularly as it is

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>>54091042
>keep growing

Stagnancy is not growth. At least half of HoloJPs mog your precious EN so hard, it's not even funny. But I guess that is what happens when you choose to "own" some imaginary enemy and fighting for "the cause" instead of putting your nose to the grind.

>> No.54091772

Pro tip: HoloEN fans love it if you would start a OF or Fansly.

>> No.54091778

>>54091526
cope, Ina feels lonely without Sana
The twins is going to be the blue gura red gura shit

>> No.54091808

>>54085405
Not to take advice from this board.

>> No.54091871

>>54090560
They'll just move on to another girl. It's how you lose customers just like any business.

>> No.54091889

>>54085405
I know it's gonna be awkward dealing with whatever chuuni backstory EN management saddled you with, but just try and bear it for the first few months. People know you aren't ACTUALLY a mythological creature/personification of a concept, so when they ask you questions about that or make jokes about it don't feel like they're expecting you to nail the response. It's all just about playing along with the kayfabe to help you establish your character. And believe me, you WANT to have a character. Also it makes the obligatory anniversary "watch my debut stream" really fucking funny.

Also I know numberfags are gonna shit on your predecessors for not living up to Myth's heights, but please please PLEASE try to follow Council's example. Specifically Fauna and Bae, and maybe Mumei and Kronii if you're confident in your sense of humor. The Hololive brand is, despite all the jokes, founded on being warm, welcoming, and mostly polite. Please do not be a typical western streamer, be a western version of a Hololive JP streamer. I'm fine with Kiara, Calli, Ame, and Gura doing their own thing but Ina is the only Myth senpai I would recommend studying from.

>> No.54091915

>>54091627
But it's true, Mori and Kronii are the ones who caused the most problems, and guess why, male collabs

>> No.54091984

>>54091915
No it's how they HANDLED male collabs, same with Ame. You notice how Bae doesn't have nearly the same hatred.

>> No.54092047

>>54091984
yeah, because she mentioned holostars in her debut and no one fucking watches her

>> No.54092057

>>54091778
well should have told her to not be an ungrateful bitch then , the chocolate tiddies were great her own fault for throwing that golden ticket into the trash

>> No.54092066

>>54091915
What problems? You do realize this place is not representative of the entirety of the vtuber space right? Any seethe that happens here is mostly irrelevant

>> No.54092077

>new debuts
>instead of being finally happy schizos are pissing themselves over homos
Ngl it's really funny how mindbroken some downies are on this board

>> No.54092112

I JUST WANT TO COME HOME AFTER A LONG DAY AT WORK AND WATCH SOME CUTE GIRLS DOING CUTE THINGS IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR

>> No.54092178

as Kiara said, collaborating with males is not good for your mental health
>>54092077
go back

>> No.54092194

>>54092047
Did you not see the threads when she showed off that black 3d outfit? Bae gets views mang

>> No.54092218

>>54091984
Yes, because the unicornbros silently left Bae

>> No.54092224

>>54092077
Dropped by for the first time in a long while to see the reaction and the board is as mentally ill as ever lel

>> No.54092229

>>54092066
Except that the Kronii shit literally required an official statement from Cover. And ever since that happened she's been consistently at her lowest point ever numberwise. So much she went from being one of the fiercest homo collabers to completely dropping the fags and even banning Vesper mentions from her chat.
Also your homocucks browse this place.

>> No.54092245

>>54091627
You said do what makes you happy and causing drama (Enna) is what some chuubas enjoy.

Your advice is toxic to the group.

>> No.54092249

>>54092066
Yeah, Mori saying sorry on twitter more than once and Kronii literally asking for the management help happened only here

>> No.54092251

>>54092066
EN's numbers are in the toilet you retard
Mori's CCV is in the toilet
you morons haven't updated your opinions since the first month after Tempus debuted

>> No.54092280

>>54091889
are you fucking retarded ? as much as i hate mori she and kiara bring in the most cash and have the most secure future and fanbase, ame and gura on the other hand prob not and ina yeah ina..... she can draw you know ? she has been and always will be irrelevant, stop giving out this shitty advice with no basis

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>>54091410
>a bunch of morons who cared about her PL sperging out
>"Everyone /here/ shat on her!"

Fauna's a professional who maintains the kayfabe just fine. I don't care who she was/is with, or what she does offline. She's not my friend or girlfriend, and I watch her for her entertainment value and professionalism. And that is what many expect from the girls. Perfectly reasonable.

Of course, that doesn't fit your narrative so you make up new ones. Defaming your enemy is such a typical tactic.

>> No.54092330

>>54091984
How bout (You) handle your reaction to male collabs better, hm?? Stop treating it as sone kind of cuckoldry and just move on if you don't like it

>> No.54092332

>>54092112
Woman is too stupid to roleplay for 2h a day

>> No.54092368

>>54092112
BASED

>> No.54092377

1) Don't say you're from 4chan
2) Don't berate your audience
3) Stream regularly
4) Don't collab with males
5) Don't talk about any romantic relationships you've had or have

>> No.54092379

>>54092047
Yes and that's part of what comes with collabing with males. So if you want to collab with males, at least have the goddamn decency to be upfront about it. Kronii tried to have it both ways, which is why she rightfully gets shit on now. If you want money, don't collab with males and keep it that way. If you want to collab with males, say so at the beginning.

>> No.54092384

>>54092066
lol even leddit hates tempus because they're obviously leeching the girls

>> No.54092426

>>54091915
For who they caused problems? Cover? No Their revenue? No they are doing ok. They friendship with their gen? No they are getting along quite well.. Sorry that argument have no weight they havent cause troubles to their job its the unstable people like this "unicorns" who cause the trouble because they feel entitled on how a stranger should work ignoring everyoone else opinions including the company AND the talent herself. The company called out these people NOT the talents. The only ones complaining are them not the vast majority of the fanbase, the company or their coworkers.

>> No.54092443

>>54085405
Dont colab with males, and fucking stream. Dont take breaks every 2 weeks and dont be a bitch to ur fans

>> No.54092466

>>54085405
Please, just have respect for those that came before you. Don’t turn Hololive into NijiSanji with their constant drama, or VShojo with how low brow they are. Just be classy.

>> No.54092528

If this thread wasn't enough proof, male interaction is the most controversial thing in holo

>> No.54092561

>>54092330
People moved on retarded, that's why Luna mogs any holoEN that isn't called Gura and sometimes Ina

>> No.54092598

>>54092112
Watch an anime. Anne Happy is a cute one. Or just dont watch the ones with males if that makes you feel insecure and vulnerable. Not everyone wants to watch cgdct every single day neither have a unhealthy imaginary relationship with the talents.

>> No.54092610

>>54085405
>GAMING ADVICE
Don't play beat-em-ups, fighting games, or any repetitive, grind game, alone. Get another person on the stream to talk as a 'narrator', otherwise, the stream will get boring real quick.

Beat story games ASAP. (No one watching playthrough #14 of Resident Evil 7)

If you're playing Minecraft, HAVE A GOAL.

>> No.54092634

Stop talking about your real life self if it's not related to work as vtuber.
Don't be retarded.
Don't panic if you do some Yab.
Talk to management if you do and listen to them (it's okay, this is hololive not Anycolor)
Don't be retarded
Ignore Antis
Collabs as much possible at first
Don't be retarded

>> No.54092645

>>54092598
no thanks

>> No.54092694
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>>54091753
There are currently 35 HoloJP members. You're saying almost 12 of them "barely do any idol activities regularly as it is". Explain what you meany by "idol activities", and list down the names of the talents in question.

>> No.54092740

>>54092598
cringe

>> No.54092765

Surround yourself around Gura and you’ll be fine in the long run, avoid kronii and Mori.

>> No.54092769

>>54092322
You idiots love to go on and on about how you don't *actually* give a shit about what happens off stream but will dig up inconvenient info anyway, post it here and seethe for weeks and/or fuck off in a defeated cuck mindset. Unicorns here memoryholed how hard they anti'd fauna and mumei during that time but like to pretend they never gave a shit after tempus debuted

>> No.54092787

>>54092598
go watch a different vtubing company

>> No.54092817

>>54092280
See this? This is what a numberfag looks like. They are not interested in your wellbeing or the stability of your fanbase. All they want to see is perpetual growth, like you're a stock, so they can say to other fans that they're fans of The Best idol. But that is not what Hololive is about. Hololive is about creating a comfortable streaming environment fans can tune into to get a break from how relentlessly shitty real life is. Ina has absolutely nailed this comfy atmosphere, as have Fauna and Bae. Be like them.

>> No.54092854

>>54092598
Even that japanese comedian said the same thing as the anon you responded
That's the true demographic of hololive you liking or not

>> No.54092867

>>54092769
Clearly standards for Hololive EN have dropped so low that Mumei and Fauna are unironically the best choices.

>> No.54092872

>>54092769
reminder that no council member has reached a million subs yet because none of them are truly unicorn-friendly

>> No.54092893

>>54092528
But why tho. It's just streamers being silly for entertainment

>> No.54092966

>>54092047
She's still got decent CCV and most people don't throw shit at her. Her merchandise are also selling quite well. No matter how you try to spin it, bae absolutely handled things better than ame, kronii and mori.

>> No.54092973

>>54092740
Says the guy feeling scared of watching a guy. Yup.

>> No.54092977

>>54092112
Watch anime then. Streaming is a different industry despite the anime lure they used to get (You)r attention

>> No.54093034

>>54092817
>bring in the most cash and have the most secure future and fanbase
Totally disregarding mentioning a secure future and fanbase just because cash is mentioned , you´re actually beyond retarded you must be a woman

>> No.54093041

>>54092893
It's just different things, it's like you came home to play sonic and the game is Mario
Mario is bad? No, but you want to play sonic

>> No.54093066

>>54092854
Is that japanese comedian the whole fanbase? In EN? He must have a whole LOT of ips and accounts.

>> No.54093081

>>54092872
Kobo isn't either and she has 2 million subs. Try again dumbass

>> No.54093135

>5 new girls are announced
>Schizos /here/ can only think about Tempus cock
Unironically M I N D B R O K E N

>> No.54093149

>>54093081
indogs are cucks

>> No.54093168

>>54092817
>to get a break from how relentlessly shitty real life is
easy fix improve your fucking life you whining shitter , nothing is free you have to work for that , do it for yourself or for your oshi as many have done i dont care

>> No.54093197

>>54092893
because the majority of hololive fans don't find male vtubers entertaining

>> No.54093224

>>54085405
Leak a roommate pic asap (be hot)
I’m 100% serious

>> No.54093255

>>54093041
Then go play mario. Ffs this isn't anything difficult. The example isn't even accurate, as collabs are announced in advance

>> No.54093276

>>54092872
they´re honestly just boring every single one of them Sana made the right call pulling out

>> No.54093278

>>54092769
>muh strawman
lmao do you know how many examples do I have of beggars anting the girls? I mean look at fucking NijiEN. The company that made mixed collabs their bread and butter is now collapsing because of dogshit fans and constant drama.
Oh and reminder that your homoshits are the ones who had a talent get suspended in his first 3 months, missed a bunch of collabs and is now absolutely MIA.

>> No.54093294

>>54092066
Ironic, because based on what people like (You), twittards and ledditors said, kronii was harassed so badly by /here/, she had to make that snide tweet and have trannies and omegatroon defend her in droves.

How convenient it is to downplay /vt/'s influence on one occasion, only to inflate it on another. I guess you wouldn't be a sister if you weren't hypocritical.

>> No.54093345

>>54093149
>Moves goalpost
Sure buddy, that must be the only reason

>> No.54093392

>>54093066
What do you think it's hololive fans then
It's obvious it's salaryman who arrives home and wants to see cute girls, having a guy in the middle of all that will benefit in which way?

>> No.54093424

>>54087802
Good. Good

>> No.54093508

>>54085405
Make it know immediately if you're going to be a homocollaber so I don't spend a month getting attached to you only for you to start sucking every dick you see after the ban is up

>> No.54093519

>>54088137
EN? None, for some reason they dont get vtubing. Its how we get dipshits like >>54086076

>> No.54093566

>>54087246
learn English before you place your filthy fingers on the keyboard, primitive

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Wait is this the first time Kaela collabs with Mori and Ina?

>> No.54093697

>>54093278
>Incorrectly calls out a strawman
>Doesn't argue the point
>Reply is nothing but a strawman
It'll do you good to stop being an imbecile after you stop seething over cock for a bit, anon

>> No.54093700

>>54092769
The problem is that "unicorn" is used for multiple different meanings, which are all vastly different. There's the cuck one where they're fine with being lied to (out of sight). There's the virgin only one. Then there's the one that most people probably fall under when considering a gf, which is the 'don't cheat on me' one.
So depending on which you are and what you believe is the truth, things may be acceptable or not.

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>>54092330
>people talk about how chubas should handle an issue professionally, eg. Fubuki, Matsuri, Towa
>sister immediately tries gaslighting by saying the viewers are the ones who should handle things

Calling you a confused retard would be a compliment of the highest order.

>> No.54093829

>>54092893
The reason literally doesn't matter. You having that perspective, and that conflicting with others is causing the issue we're seeing to this day.

>> No.54093888

>>54093255
People like habits, if you watch something every saturday when that thing change for a week and you jump that day the next week you'll have less interest, the more that happens the less interested you get and you stop watching it

>> No.54093996

>>54093294
What bloody influence claim or downplaying are you even trying to pin on me you massive faggot?

>> No.54094095

>>54093888
And the problem is..??? If you're not interested then it's fine to not watch

>> No.54094102

>>54092817
you sound co-dependant and parasocial as fuck i´m not sure you should give out afvice

>> No.54094105

>>54093392
And why do you think the thousands of people who watch along him thinks the same way? Why does he feel hes entitled to everything adjust to his personal preference alone? Hes not the only one watching. Hes not the only one they have to entretain. This doesnt mean all streams should be mixed no but talents should not be THAT gatewayed on how they should work. That will only hinder their ideas and basically stunt their growth as artists. Youre along thousands of people not everyone will agree with you.

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>>54092426
>The company called out these people

More like omegatroon did. Hololive as a whole is appreciative of gachikois because they pay the bills. They put their money where their mouth is. Losers like you think making tweets and reddit posts help Cover and the girls. You don't have the means and/or the intention to contribute towards their success. You're all talk and all about virtue-signaling.

>> No.54094207

>>54093747
There is no issue if you're just treating this as another form if entertainment which clearly anons here are too mentally retarded to do

>> No.54094250

>>54092426
>revenue

And where did you think that revenue come from? From sisters posting "yassss slay queen" all over the place?

No, it's the unicorns. Get rekt, poorfag.

>> No.54094291

>>54094105
you are brown lol

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54094418

>>54085405
We are the only people who care about you. Better act like so.

>> No.54094440

>>54093508
>Wanting a GFE, unironically
People like this can be real.
Like why you don't use that money and effort to get a real GF instead?

>> No.54094508

>>54094116
Youre argument that only gachikois send SC, buy merchandise and gather in events is shallow. You dont have to be in love with them to invest in them if you feel they earn it or just appreciate them. Sorry youre point hold no grounds.

>> No.54094549

>>54094418
Ah yes, make demands to a modern, most likely western city woman as a no name anon. That'll definitely make things go your way

>> No.54094618

>>54094440
brown
>>54094508
brown

>> No.54094632

>>54094440
Anon, if they could fo that they wouldn't be /here/

>> No.54094707

>>54094105
Because we have countless data proving that most people want CGDCT from Hololive and the ones who want homo collabs are a minority?
Because you already have NijiEN and Vshojo if you want that shit?

>> No.54094765

>>54094440
niga, this is 4chan

>> No.54094831

Neither Tempus nor their fans buy your merch
Gachikois and unicorns do

>> No.54094845

>>54094105
>hinder the ideas
The biggest EN male collab is fucking monopoly, being male or not they would make the same content, so why put males at all?

>> No.54094894

>>54093996
For you to be so clueless on what I was talking about, you're either a tourist or suffering from severe learning disabilities. Then again, the two are not mutually exclusive.

>> No.54094930

>Bae is doing a Homo off collab
Keep her the fuck away from EN 3 please.

>> No.54095023

>>54094508
Unless you really liked the merch or is buying because it's funny you have some degree of simpness on you, there's no other reason to buy something useless

>> No.54095098

>>54094105
This is Hololive
Ollie wanted to change that and she's 3views now

>> No.54095151

>>54094207
Except I do. Which is why I, and many others, don't have a problem with Bae. Or Fubuki. Or Matsuri. Or Towa. But treating it as a form of entertainment doesn't mean you are forbidden to hold the performers accountable for their shit.

There is a difference between "I fucking hate male collabs" and "I don't like how kronii/mori/ame handled the issue".

>> No.54095308

>>54086076
I fucking hate normalfags, fuck off

>> No.54095396

>>54094707
Countless data sure... source? "Trust me bro" "I know what im saying" "You dont know me" "i have a guy who knows a guy..." and all that bla bla. Unless its an official statement on an official site every data is speculation SPECIALLY from this site. What fidelity can you expect from people who hides behind anonymity? You can only say these stuff in 4chan bc do this in other places and youre getting ratiod and fact check the second you say that.

>> No.54095488

>>54094440
A real GF is 3D, and they come with their own positives and negatives. Chubas are pretty much about fantasy personified, and done through anime girl avatars. What you're saying is akin to asking why would you watch action movies instead of getting your own gun or enlisting in the army.

>> No.54095510

Try your best to not overlap streams like come on 4 streams all at the same time and not even a collab. You all (mostly) have schedules we will watch you literally at any time

>> No.54095543

>>54095396
leddit is already here

>> No.54095663

>>54095396
you are brown. your opinions are as worthless as your currency.

>> No.54095827

>>54092112
Grim that tempus invited "fans" that seethe at this, when previously it was obvious for everyone

>> No.54095836

>>54095396
>hides behind anonymity
Anon, Ollie carrer is literally dead but do you think people would agree outise of /here/?
And it's easy to say what hololive fans like, look at the most successful members and the answer is yours

>> No.54095862

>>54086330
So basically, looking like a homobeggar?

>> No.54095907

>>54085405
It's a lot of words, but I mean every bit of it.
>Stream often
You are effectively winning the lottery by getting into Hololive. You can at least stream 20 hours a week for the literal millions of dollars you will be likely making throughout your career. The people supporting you work much worse hours for significantly less money. Show respect for them by giving them the content they crave.

>IF you are gonna collab with males, let people know early
I'm no unicorn; I don't give a fuck who you stream with as long as everyone is having fun. However, you will save yourself a lot of dumb drama by gatekeeping unicorns out of your fanbase if you know you are gonna do stuff they won't enjoy. Like the unicorns of myth, they will stab you if they catch a hint of you being with a man. If that sounds like a bad time for you, then plan ahead and don't invite them in. Just be smart about it.

>Do not do your unarchived streams or off-collabs without prior notice
This is rude to your fanbase. People have lives outside of you and cannot watch your twitter 24/7 to catch notifications. Let people know ahead of time so they can actually catch the content they want to watch. Even just a four or five hour notice goes a long way.

>Don't shit on your fanbase
You don't have to agree with everything people say about your content. That's normal. But state your opinion in a sensible manner without hostility. In fact, if it's an announcement/discussion stream, run your statement through ChatGPT beforehand and ask it if the statement could come across as hostile. If an AI can figure it out, you are probably messing up your phrasing somewhere. Even when you are right, you do not want to sound entitled. If you harsh the vibe, even the ones that agree with you will find someone nicer to support.
That said, do NOT be a doormat and let some vocal fans have their way when you want something and they don't or vice versa. That's how you burnout. Your content needs to be something you are happy with or you will quickly end up hating your job. Have your way, but be polite about it. Even if some people decide not to support you anymore, you simply need to accept that no content, not even yours, is for everyone. And that's okay.
As long as you aren't an asshole, most people will reciprocate that kindness back towards you. The ones that don't aren't worth your time. So don't stress about antis, and absolutely DO NOT engage with them. They look crazy to everyone who sees them anyway. I know it's hard to ignore people talking shit, but remember: You are on your way to becoming a millionaire, and they are crying about it on the internet. You already won by default. But if you take the bait, they are just gonna keep on fishing. They want to get under your skin. The more you engage, the more it empowers the trolls and turns off the rest of your fanbase.

>Don't ghost your fanbase if you can help it
Even if you are taking a break, it's nice to at least hear you are doing okay on twitter or community posts. I'm not asking for regular updates on the hour, but hearing something every day or two is good for engagement. Take a moment to let people know how some part of your day went. Obviously if you are in mourning over the loss of a loved one or something, your mental wellbeing comes first so forget all that and take all the time you need.

>If you have a boyfriend don't engage in GFE
Again, I'm not a unicorn; I personally don't care if you are in a relationship or not. However, by encouraging parasocial girlfriend-boyfriend relationships with the fanbase, you have to understand what you are doing. You are being a companion for lonely, often mentally unwell, men and in return you are collecting money for it. Don't betray that trust, sad as it is, by being in a real relationship. It makes you a genuinely awful human being. And don't expect to be the one that has a boyfriend and doesn't get caught either. They always get caught, and it always leads to hate and drama.

>If you are playing a story-driven game, please pay attention to the story
This one is a pet peeve of mine, so your mileage may vary. While I understand that dead air is a Bad Thing for entertainers, it's also frustrating to watch people play a game and then talk through the cutscenes that explain the plot. Because not even two seconds later will they be confused about what's happening simply because they didn't pay any attention. I'm here to watch you, yes. But I'm also hoping to watch you enjoy the game.

>Never ever bring up politics or religion
This should be a no-brainer, but it deserves being said anyway. It doesn't matter what stance you take on the subject, you are going to piss people off. And all that drama could be avoided if you just didn't bring it up. Many people watch streamers to get away from the drama of the real world. Lecturing, or even pandering, to any political or religious base is going to filter people and generate antis. You don't need the trouble.

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>>54094508
You send a 250 ARS to a chuba because you're a casual. I send a 250 USD to a chuba because I'm a huge fan. We are not the same. You watch the free 30 minutes of a Holo concert because you're a casual. I spend more than a hundred bucks on tickets to watch them on SPWN because I'm a huge fan.

Guess what? We're not the same.

>> No.54095987

>>54095396
The fact that homos are 2-3view at best isn't proof enough that the people who want to see them are the minority?

>> No.54096044

>>54095929
basado

>> No.54096069

>>54095929
Based sheep enjoyer

>> No.54096406

>>54088867
Wrong. Even they've declined after the collabs. Dedicated Tempus fans don't want those either. Mix gender collabs benefit no one.

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I wonder how many are spamming about homos in every thread just to ragebait retards, how many actually think what they post and how many are dipshit brainlets trying to fit in with the first two because they're scared of the first two calling them names on this anonymous website.

>> No.54096576

>>54096519
cope seethe dilate

>> No.54096821

Is this wildfire over yet...

>> No.54096842

>>54096576
I don't care, I'm just thinking out loud so to speak. Holos started to bore me a year in so I'm hoping that one of the new ones is fun, though I doubt it. Perm hell will break them and they'll default to the same 10 games and songs like everyone else.

>> No.54097013

>>54085405
Filter out each and any comment from the SEA region. It's all worthless garbage that's more likely to do any harm than good. While you're at it just shadowban the whole region.

>> No.54097078
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See pic related for what Hololive's actual appeal is.

> timeslot
Pick one, stick to it. Try not to overlap with the big ENs, but that may no longer be possible with the increasing numbers. Still, if you can't avoid complete overlap, take Sankisei's example and start your stream 1 hour before or after whoever is in your chosen timeslot. Try to get the other girls to follow this "series" approach as well, although this might end up with one or two of them in unfavorable timeslots. You can always rotate slots once a month if this is a problem.

> homo collabs
You can do them if you want to, but for every homo collab you should do at least 3 girls-only collabs a month. This will keep the balance and you can get both audiences. Extreme unicorns are a minority, most of the CGDCT audience will simply ignore the homo collabs if they don't like it.
Also if you plan on interacting with homos, make that ABSOLUTELY CLEAR during debut.
Do not string your fans along and then thrash the expectations you yourself built up.
A fan turned anti is far more passionate in their hate for you compared to a run of the mill shitposter shitting on you for keks.
Being entertaining will decide your numbers much more than any type of collabs will.

> fanbase
Your fans love you, and as long as you love them back in return you will be very successful. Fans come from all shapes, sizes, countries and cultures, so do not shit on them without understanding where they come from. See pic rel for 90% of hololive fans' mindset.

> senpais
You have 50+ senpais who have paved the way for you. Study them to see what works and what doesn't.

> niche
Try to have at least SOMETHING about you that's super unique. A unique replayable game, or a unique music taste, or a sense of humor different from existing ENs. You can mimic some JP holos and become the EN versions of them as well, if that's comfortable for you.

> feedback
Don't come /here/ unless you have a strong mental filter. If you aren't getting decent feedback on twitter, and this is the only place left, then stick to your general.

>> No.54097111

>>54096842
Imagine being bored and staying in a board dedicated to the thing that you're bored
I would kill myself before reaching at this point

>> No.54097301

>>54094440
3D is not 2D.
Also people with 3D girlfriends can still have a 2D one.

>> No.54097515

>>54096519
> trying to fit in with the first two because they're scared of the first two calling them names
redditards are more scared of people calling them names than downvotes kek
grow some balls

>> No.54097690

>>54097013
Kisama...not all SEA dammit. How'd I get onto /log/, /hag/, and this thread then?!

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