/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>54083293
EN3 being fantasy adventurers is less chuuni than Council.

>>54083293
> “no one cares”
> makes a stupid thread whining about it

Chuuni shit is fun, now that council have settled in I think that they can mentor the new hires on how to approach lore shit and to not take it too seriously.

>>54083293
Chuuni or not the most important is being simple

>>54083293
Love it. Love this delicious seethe and cope from you fucking losers who have been doom posting for a month. Fuck feels so good to be right. Feels so good to be better than you! Hahaha!!!

>>54083293
Omegay is gone, so there's a chance they'll dial it down

>>54086603
Nah, they'll ramp it up since he's one of the new debut

>>54083293
HoloX happened between EN2 and EN3. They are currently the most "chuuni" group of Hololive

>>54083293
I care, lore is fun.
Next argument?

>>54083293
In an investor report they said that cohesive group gens sell well, so every gen now will have some lore to sell them as a group. Unfortunately this probably means we will not get simple designs or characters like Subaru or Okayu anymore since they dont really work to sell a group or narrative

>>54083293
Omega got fired, there's no longer gonna be anymore chuuni shit.

>>54087140
The problem is that nobody mentions the lore a month after the debut

>>54087985
Most of them do in their kayfabe, even Bae sometimes.
It also increases viewer interaction and produces free content for them, for example in the form Myth's bad end.

>>54083293
If there is one thing we can agree on, its that we fucking hate chuuni shit

>>54083293
HoloX and Tempus lore is unironically perfectly intriguing for the lore obsessed crowd (ie. Retards) to theorize about but still leave enough rooms for the talents to inject their own personality in the character.

Council is embarassing

>>54088597
My problem with Council's lore is that it addresses things that make up a setting itself, making them unduly 'important' in the world relative to everyone else.

But yes, I do enjoy some lore autism otherwise.

>>54083293
Fuck you. Lore is fun.

>>54083293
>We
Lore is fun, just because (you) dont like it doesnt mean it is the same for everyone else.

>>54083293
>Why does EN do this?
I care
I hope they get CHat GPT to write 1000 pages of lore just to vex you

>>54083293
This.
EN lore is too serious and anti-fun. Even the most lore heavy JP gen which is HoloX can be boiled down to:
>We are evil organization, but we are bad at it(lol)

>>54083581
Fpbp

>>54089705
You can boil EN lore down too:

>We are mythical creatures and are being investigated
>We are silly gods and the end is near

>>54091262
So what will EN3 be?

>>54083293
At least they aren't fucking gods, it's good that they dialed it back a little

HoloX had lore didn't it? Some secret society thing right? It's not like the girls every brought up much of the lore once the first 2 months were up. Some references but more in a joking manner like the JP ones if the question ever gets brought up.

>>54093587
Ame did an oopsie and now 5 criminals from HFIL have broken out and are now idols for some reason.

>>54093587
So far
>We're breaking out of a magic prison

>>54083293
Why you treat like Holox didnt exist????

>>54093587
Phantom thieves, couterpart to HoloX

>>54083293
Lore is absolutely important. It's the core aspect that will produce hololive fan games, epic fanart, and shit

>>54088597
Never read HoloX kore

>>54093994
HoloX lore was more "We're incompetent Saturday morning cartoon villains" and less "Melodramatic endtimes prophecy war of the gods"

>>54083293
we just need good kayfabe, and that is mostly achieved by having a simple character and backstory. the chuuba can then build upon that. i do agree holoen's backstories and lore are too autistic but it's not like western whores have any interest in kayfabe anyways (and neither do You it seems)

>>54083293
Autists enjoy lore and worldbuilding. The vtubers themselves all give it up at most a month in, but the spergs get to enjoy it for their terrible fanart and fanfics.

>>54083293
they needed more for irys to cover up for her lies

>>54095646
>and that is mostly achieved by having a simple character and backstory.
Not necessarily, some will do better with a blank slate and some will do better with a more defined background.
>the chuuba can then build upon that
This is the true important part. They have to make their lore their own.

>>54083293
The lore is too much. But it really only got bad during council, in which the Troon Omega was in control of everything, making autistic decisions, hiring 2 gens of dudes, etc.

I’m hoping now that he’s been fired, this one will be more like Myth.

>>54083293
I like for the lore to be cringe so the chuubas can make fun of it

>>54084890
Do you really want Kronii mentoring EN3?

>>54094906
uhhhh..... How about the vtuber herself?

>>54083581
>>54083293
EN3 looks like Holox, a criminal guild breaking out of jail. Almost like they're designed to oppose Tempus

>>54083293
god en is so fucking cringe

>>54096106
without lore they're just women
lore makes a vtuber

>>54083581
To me their story seems more like "an ancient evil awakens"

>>54083293
Lore was, and still is, the least of council's problems. People will eventually move on past the characters' backstories and the streamer's personality and behavior will be the things that make or break their career.

I don't know why you're making such a big deal out of this.

>>54087140
Hell the Lui-LaPlus relationship feels very much like that in lore of the chunni boss and the very competent one keeping the entire gig from imploding.
Even though at times it's more a Mother - Brat Daughter relationship.

>>54098752
Councils biggest problem is that they were incredibly lazy and failed to do the most basic thing you need to do.

Which is to actually stream

And Mumei randomly doing a karaoke at fucklate O'Clock with no warning doesn't count. They would always be unarchived karaoke so to most they didn't even exist

>>54083293
Lore is only cringe when the chuuba feels embarrassed by it. You don't need to perfectly play that character at all times, even though some fans will appreciate it. But if you start sounding insecure about your lore, everyone will notice.