/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>54083261
Heavenrend is forgotten

I don’t know who any of those are.

>>54083429
They are all dead names.

>>54083261
Idol and Phase. Since they are technically the biggest. But I don't see anything in EN3 from the trailer that would even effect them.

idolcorp will survive the test of time since they are supported by the taxes of saudi arabia

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>>54083261
Who are those?

Only idol and phase.

these icon sometimes popped up on my mobile games

Why would that impact those corpos? People will watch the holoEN debuts the go back to the oshis they already have. Also kek at Eien even being in the image

Idol Corp.

>>54083261
Idol because they get lewder than holo ever will, Phase because Pippa carries them.
Kawaii will survive thanks to extreme unicorns still too afraid of tempus still being a thing.
Everyone else... its over.

>>54083870
And you think blue dorito isn't the same? Lmao

>>54083261
Idol Corp seems to be doing fine, despite the coomer baiting (except Rin, love that dude)

>>54083261
Middle row (idol/phase/kawaii) for sure.. the rest? I dunno. Pixel might have a fighting chance but it's hard to say. Kawaii also might die without Nene in it but we're not sure of that.

Holomid couldn't even take down Vshojo

>>54083880
A lot of small corpo viewers were originally HoloEN fans possibly going back to debut who just got bored or annoyed with the direction the branch went. 2 years of no new girls and half of them not streaming much will force a lot of people to explore other options. However EN3 will guaranteed pull some back into the fold if only temporarily. Really depends on how they pan out.

>>54084110
>Pixel might have a fighting chance but it's hard to say
Isn't only the racoon girl a 3view?

>>54083261
all of them, DOA homocollabers are inbound
watamage deems it >>55555555

>>54083261
They will all be gone within the next two years. VShojo and NijiEN will become the new small corpos.

They'll all continue existing, at least for the forseeable future. EN3 changes nothing for them, really.

Idol will be fine since its a completely different lane from holo

>>54083261
Nobody gives a fuck about kawa and it is run by shit heads who don't care about growing their talent who are all low 2views.

Idol only because they have money.

>>54083975
rent free, pathetic nijimob

>>54083261
The only logo I recognize is EIEN because they were smart enough to put the name in the graphic. I do not, however, believe they are smart enough to survive; even if EN3 wasn't happening. Assuming the black P is Phase, and not Prism, they will survive. Idol is probably one of those logos and will also survive since, like Phase, they are too big to just die overnight at this point. They may not be massive names, but it would still take a wactor-tier yab to doom either of them outright. Everyone on that list needs to work harder on brand recognition, and everyone that isn't Idol needs to work harder on promoting their talents.

Literally all of those are for people who jumped ship from Hololive. Why would they go back to Hololive after leaving willingly?

>>54083261
PixelLink Prism Eien
Idol Phase Kawaii
VReverie V&U Kawa
for the uninitiated

Kawa being there is a joke, no one talks about them

>>54083261
Idol, Phase and Kawaii (depending on if they can grow past the gen 3 disaster). Prism will live too. Sony sunk a lot of money into them. The rest are 50/50

>>54085057
Good. We don't need traitors

>>54083724
Idol has decided to go all in on the parasocial GFE route now, so they've got something that Hololive doesn't have. Phase on the other hand could take a bit of a hit.

>>54083261
Can someone name all of these? I'm autistic and don't know all the icons. I'll give my answer after.

>>54084443
this desu
Vshojo and Niji are the only ones that are gonna survive constant competition with Holo.

>>54083724
one of them looks like jelly

>>54084767
>b-but niji
Rent-free

>>54085349
>grow past the gen 3 disaster
They had to extend their auditions because all their submissions were shit, they aren't going to grow anymore

This is a quality bait. I'm bumping it.
They will all die.

>>54083724
>I don't see anything in EN3 from the trailer that would even effect them

>>54085627
Yeah. The only reason any of these even exist is because HoloEN took too long to introduce the 3rd gen.

>>54086051
>because all their submissions were shit, they aren't going to grow anymore
No, it because no one bothered to apply

>>54083261
EIEN is already dead

>>54086226
>>54083724

>>54086384
what happened to skye? did she yab too?

>>54086384
What do you mean, they're accepting applications. Failures don't do that.

>>54083724
They are all just Holo refugees. All those who temporarily oshied any chuba from these corpos are already purging the oshi marks from their names as we speak to make room for the new gen.

>>54085200
The only thing kawa does that is notable is handle merch for Merry and Punkalopi. Also going to cons and doing meet and greets, they went to AX when the likes of Phase didn't.....and had a cardboard cutout stolen from them.

Other than that, nobody cares. Talent get misused but they get merch and a manager out of it.

>>54086571
Tsunderia accepted applications for gen 4 then folded their entire company 1 week before debut

>>54086489
on a month long mental health break

>>54083261
EIEN has been doomed almost since it began, EN3 won't meaningfully accelerate that.

reee refuges
reeee traitors
reeeee jumping ship

>>54086656
There will be a lot of mental health breaks now that the EN3 is out. Most of them are going to be permanent.

>>54086657
The models weren't done. The debuts were never close.

>>54086573
>They are all just Holo refugees.
All vtuber watchers are Holo refugees

>>54086384
Other than the green whore, what happened to the rest of them? They seemed nice

>>54086911
Wrong, we're Kizuna Ai refugees. And Love Live adjacent before that

>>54084559
>different lane
What does that even mean. Idol is the most Holo of the smallpos.
Kawaii lost that title when their entire latest gen walked out. Very different situation from holochina which is
>lol foreigners who cares about that
for the 3 main demographics America, Japan and SEA
Kawaii3 leaving them is equivalent to all of Myth leaving Holo if that ever happened

>>54083922
Dont know chief, Pippa feels like is falling into stagnation, and the rest of PC talents just seem like aimless indies, and IdolEN gen2 is not looking too good

>>54086657
Gen Fourn't will always be one of my favorite divegrass players, such a good name.

>>54086911
That's nawt troo
I only discovered vtubers after Pippa appeared on the front page of kiwifarms after she talked about my favorite lolcows Chris Chan and Ethan Ralph

>>54083261
Idol is dead and they struggle getting 100 views already when they're not doing whore content
Eien died when Riifu got killed, theres nobody they can get that will revive them
Phase connect will remain Pippa: the company as more people join and realize the only way to stay relevant is if they deepthroat her asshole
Kawaii wil probably stay the same they got the most loyal following out of all the small corpos
V&U is a 2view company and was never relevant to begin with

Cant recognize the icons of the rest

>>54087237
kys

>>54087261
>stay the same they got the most loyal following out of all the small corpos
Yeah a whole of 30 viewers
Kek

>>54083261
>Will be fine
Idol
Phase
Kawaii

>They just started
Pixel

>Change your next gen designs NOW!!!
EIEN

>>54083261
None of these will "die" because of gen 3, but my predictions of the 3 year future of each corpo:
>PixelLink
Will exist longer than some of the others to replace their spot on the small corpo chart due to being new and doing "just well enough." I think its too soon to tell for this one.
>Prism Project
These fuckers just don't die despite falling off hard over the last year. Probably wont take off anywhere, but will probably still be hanging around. Shiki is going off to do music things for Sony, so she'll probably be focusing more on music than VTubing.
>Eien
I expect a similar fate that of PixelLink. They'll do better than them, but will likely collapse after a couple years due to internal issues.
>Idol
Has a better marketing plan, and more capitol than the other small corpos. They'll be on a steady incline. Being jews is ironically a plus for them and their funding.
>Phase Connect
This will get controversial, but I prophesize internal issues will cause a collapse within the company. They might not die completely, but will probably see a multi-talent walk out. Having a company of self called "sad girls" is a ticking time bomb.
>Kawaii
Despite their efforts recently with the 3D concert, they've lacked any reward from the experience. New talents are hesitant to apply to the company after the loss of gen 3. There are also rumors of clique behavior and management issues at kawaii that will eventually cause issues. I don't see Kawaii lasting.
>VReverie
has been around long enough to say that I haven't seen much growth from them. To me they've become what Amber Glow was compared to other corpos. I don't see them making it 3 years.
>V&U
They just put out a new generation a week or so ago. None of which have broken 1k on twitter yet. The models are high quality and the trailer had great animation. I think they will also remain small, but less likely to be dead than VReverie.
>Kawa
will probably rebrand away from being a vtuber agency. Will probably change to solely focus just on merch and providing for VTubers outside their company, and talents will go indie or graduate.

>>54087048
Skye >>54086656
Kiki is a long story. I can't find the clip where Pippa was laughing at her to give you a TLDR, but she started with heavy GFE and auctioned off her gamer chair. There was a BF reveal and the chair was his. Read /eien/ archive for the details but that's the gist of why kiki's remaining fans are masochistic cucks and the reaction to her is ewwwwwww

Where is MyHoloTV?
They're way more established than Kawa.

>>54087650
they're so irrelevant now. Kawa has enough going for them by being a one stop shop for vtubers who want merch and con meet and greets, but not much in terms of being a talent organization. They have a better name for themselves than myholo in the current day.

>>54087650
What does it even matter? They are all history at this point.

ITT: people who don't watch small company vtubers talk about small company vtubers.

>>54087261
>Idol is dead
Idol can survive if Yuko stops gurabaiting and transitions into a dramatuber lolcowtuber like Pipkin.

>>54087490
>Phase
I'd refute the 'sad girl' claim but recently like a third of the talents have been talking about how Phase is like a family to them, and Uruka nearly had a breakdown on stream over the 'sad girls' joke being brought up (which isnt helping with the meme there girl).
but i still dont think they're going anywhere, they have that kinda nich'e that tends to stick around and even outlast bigger companies, but never thrives even once said bigger companies fall.

I can at least say i dont watch hololive and never have (nor ninji or vshojo), so i it wont effect me. wouldn't of even known about the gen3 if someone hadn't come into the phase thread and started trying to talk about it.

>>54087385
>the kawaii girl I'm watching has literally 47 viewers at the moment
She deserves to incline tho

>>54088585
Charzu deserves better ngl.

>>54088532
I feel like the sudden talks of how Phase is a family is actually kind of weird to me. There was a time where I would've seen it as heartwarming, but something rubs wrong now. It feels like actual coping.

>>54088585
Charlotte Suzu is the cutest vtuber in any company,

>>54088585
Black people deserve nothing

>>54087490
VReverie gen 1 did better than V&U gen 1, their gen 2s are consistent 3views. You're out of your mind.

>>54088131
There will be nobody left to talk about them soon.

>>54088585
Sorry Charzu, watching the Isla shitpost right now.

>>54088791
she’s black?

>>54083261
How many JP corpos survived HoloX? There's your answer.

>>54089154
She's the EN VA for Nahida from genshin

>>54083655
Oh? They transitioned? Congrats to them, I guess

>>54088753
its both not as bad as you think aswell as bad but not coping.
i mean, trust as you will, but for example, supposedly Remi used to get locked up in the basement by her dad, and all her family hates her. she is apparently suing them to get her passport back.
im not sure myself, but i think there was some evidence of at least the passport part posted around, which at least gives some potential validity to the other parts.

point is, some may have legitimate reasons for seeing a welcoming community as a family, but my god is it not for healthy reasons.

>>54089154
Only the truest of negros and rep Soulja Boy like she did.

>>54086911
true for 2019 and 2020fags

>>54083261
eien is dead regardless

>>54089283
oh kek

>>54089154
Just search English VA of Nahida from Genshin Impact

>>54089257
EN market is much smaller. All these 2view corpos won't survive for long.

>>54085497
It’s kinda crazy how hard IdolJew has embraced GFE.
I’ve been tempted to watch Yuko but I fear that I wouldn’t come back if I did.

>>54087261
>the company with a 500k+ subs girl will die
Retard

>>54089363
All but Phase will be dead soon.

>>54089571
My recommendations would be Rin and Juna.

>>54088585
charzu need to be saved from kawaii

>>54089674
You mean the one that struggles to get any viewers that doesnt involve her whoring herself? They bought her out for music but she cant sing for shit and all of her """"tallent"""" is actually the filters. She cant even speak english
Not even her own shills bother posting about her anymore

>>54089682
phase's entire fanbase relies on pippa and /here/

>>54089816
*needs

Corpos will no longer exist in 2 years

>>54089674
All EN3 girls are going to have 500k subs in 2 months. One girl can't save the whole company and she's probably applying for EN4 anyway.

>>54089836
vshojos entire viewer base is due to them whoring themselves out

>>54089882
Good point. They're all going out of businesses soon.

>>54089836
/#/chimps are truly blind

>>54089836
Rin, Idol's golden girl, isn't a whore. She just spammed shorts and got lifted hard by the algorithm. A lot of those subs probably never watch stream. I know I don't. I enjoy the shorts though.

>>54090124
>Rin
lol

>>54089836
You dont even know what talent he is talking about.
Since you clearly dont watch jack shit, just keep quiet. Its embarrassing.

>>54083261
Unless kawaii starts doing male colabs they will survive anything, gfe corpo is way too strong, also if nene stays as well. They are completely safe from anything as 99% of there viewers watch only kawaii and nothing else

>>54089836
>B-b-but this other stuff is bad so the number is irrelevant!!!!!
not sending your best today eh /#/?

>>54090124
Some of them do, enough to make her a steady 1k+ streamer.

>>54090124
Rin gets 1-2k viewers so the shorts did something right.

>>54089288
Shiina, Rie, a Erina are fairly normal vtubers with a healthy amount of detachment but the rest of them have been thoroughly beaten down by life that the parasocial relationships are really taking root in them.
I initially thought it was good that Sakana was basically forcing them to collab with each other but now it seems like some legitimate codependencies are forming

>>54088532
>Uruka nearly had a breakdown on stream over the 'sad girls' joke being brought up
Was she pissed about it or something?

>>54083261
Unironically phase. Their main audience is SEA dramaniggers, so they don't care about hololive unless there is some yab happening.

>>54090293
Its probably a phasefag who forgets their company has 'whores' too.
>Remilia, Panko, Uruka, Lia, Lumi,

>>54088532
the problem with phase is that they have a single horse pulling the entire carriage. if pippa leaves, the company is literally done for despite having 3 generations. that's actually insane to think about. stability is what brings longevity and nothing is more unstable than having a single person carrying everything like that.

>>54090759
Panko isn’t a whore she’s just Italian
Uruka isn’t a whore she’s just very repressed
Lia isn’t a whore she’s just autistic
Lumi isn’t a whore she’s a tradwife that doesn’t take herself seriously
Rie is a whore

>>54090539
bad timing i think. she was/just got done talking about some personal mental health stuff so i think it hit a nerve while she was being vulnerable.
dont remember her exact wording, but she basically said she doesn't like the meme because it makes her think about said issues and you could hear in her voice she wasn't taking it well.
(this was in an 8+ hour gunpla stream that literally just ended 2 minutes ago from me posting this post)

>>54090435
yeah not sure myself. on one hand, nothing wrong with having close friends and getting along well with coworkers as friends. on the other hand, should only go so far.
then again Sakana took Shiina, Uruka, and Dizzy(?) on a RL vacation once so who knows what the hells going on there.

>>54090973
The only way Pippa leaves is if she kills herself (which is a definite possibility).

>>54090292
Yeah, they sure will making bank with 30 schizo unicorn ready to doxx and harass them the moment they mention about male.

>>54091061
i wouldn't be so sure about that. she has talked about considering leaving before so it's not at all outside the realm of possibility. the amount of pressure she's under has literally made her break down in tears on stream.

>>54090292
>>54091137
I love Nene, but I don't know how she would manage to hold her schtick together at 4view. Has GFE ever been scaled all the way up successfully?

>>54090973
eh, Tenmas doing alright.
i think people also underestimate how long you can survive on a solid, but smaller dedicated fanbase.

Pippa is also very much in love now with staying in Phase. probably because only other small corpos would ever take her, and i say this as a fan. shes great, but shes a hazard for most brands looking to uphold a certain image. Phase isnt looking to uphold such an image, east not anymore.
Pippas bubble is also honestly of her own making. she has massive talents willing to collab with her that absolutely would get her some more viewers just by merit, yet shes too pipkin to properly handle it. Sakana is probably losing sleep over that constantly lol.

>>54091137
Good thing none of them expect one( who did group colabs involving males and females) have any desire to mention or colab with males then. Kawaii is gfe corp and they survive just fine

>>54091149
nah she very recently mentioned she no longer wants to leave.

>>54091312
Rushia almost did

>>54091312
Rushia? Well before she fucked it up, you'll lose some of your regulars too the fast chat and loss of intimacy but you'll gain a ton more less involved viewers. Knowing nene she'd make sure her main regulars and whales are taken care of tho

>>54091479
>gfe
>collab with male
Ogey

>>54083261
Idol, Phase and Product Kawaii will survive. The first two are "upper level" small corpos who can regularly get 1k viewers and are not in danger of bleeding out. PK is a weird one where Nene can get 1k viewers on her best streams but the other girls struggle to hold 100 viewers, but most of them are part-timers that are fine being HR ladies for their day jobs and do streaming for fun/a side-gig so aren't looking to quit.

Eien seems like it's walking dead after all the yabs in such a short time. The rest I don't even recognize but the Pixel Link girls are cute so I hope they stick around.

>>54091870
Yeah unfortunately colabs with males are allowed as long as its a big group with females as well, dumb rule in my eyes. Only a single girl has done them tho and it hurt her growth quite alot actually, the other 7 despise male vtubers

>>54087154
Riko is still my miko. It's just that the weight of nearly 10 years having gone by has aged me from a happy zoomer to an unhappy boomer.

>>54083429
It impossibile to not know Phase Connect.

>>54084271
I can watch holoen when they stream and small corpos. It's not an xbox competition, just depends on who is streaming.

>>54085497
Phase is special, they have their own identity as a corpo. Hololive has nothing to do with them, they're gonna be fine.

>>54087490
Phase has lived on the edge for two years. They've mastered it.

>>54086247
>it's actually a good thing hololive enabled more competition while chasing after luxiem and failing

>>54085497
>parasocial GFE
That was supposed to be Hololive's niche.

>>54091438
>Pippa is also very much in love now with staying in Phase. probably because only other small corpos would ever take her
Also because she’s becoming very attached to the other members.

>>54089571
Take the daughterwife pill.

>>54090973
>Pippa carries the whole thing
If only you weren't a thread watcher you would know that this is bullshit.
Lumi, Tenma, Shiina, Panko, Lia and the new gen are doing great, and phase will just keep inclining as a whole. They had an entire con for themselves, too, which is quite impressive.

>>54083261
Not this goddess. That’s for sure.

>>54093024
too bad they wont have the con next year.

>>54093256
Sure Aviel, go kill yourself now ok?

I miss small corpo tally anon
https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/53784515/#53786097

Hoping that EIEN gets their shit together with gen 2

>>54089571
Yuko is actually insane levels of GFE
She actually loves her fans emotionally, ive never once said that about any GFE vtuber but its incredibly obvious if you watch her a little how much she loves her fans
its dangerous to a mans soul

>>54090759
>Panko
>Whore
Bro Panko is a literal fur ball of autism, and she never talks about sex related stuff unless it's for the memes. Honestly one of the best phase talents.

>>54090973
Catalognigger, you don't know shit about phase.

>>54093024
some are doing good but their numbers are all over the place, including ones you mentioned.
Phase will be fine mind, and it is more than Pippa for sure, but they're also not doing fantastic.
I could actually see some talents giving up if their growth doesn't improve and that could have a bad ripple effect in general.

I love reading through these threads just to read what kind of anti bullshit people make up about small corpos just in hopes they fool some retarded catalog shitter into believing it.

>>54093584
>he fell for it
lmao

>>54093571
Me too. If only because I want them to live long enough for /riifu/ to crush them.

>>54094115
i dont watch her much and you are just a faggot catalog nigger who hates on random vtubers he knows nothing about
seethe harder nijinigger

>>54093024
anon, most of them are barely 3views. idol is doing significantly better already with buff streams hitting 4views on several of their members. phase is not doing as good as they should be doing.

>>54094017
Panko is black

>>54094205
>gets called out for falling for GFE
>buzzwords buzzwords buzzwords
Yuko is a powerful GFE but it’s just as artificial as the rest. Remember when people actually thought Rushia loved her fans romantically?

>>54094319
that one was so fucking funny, I love how hes been spamming it like even a single retard is gonna believe him
>>54094394
>Remember when people actually thought Rushia loved her fans romantically?
only retards thought that, she was clearly fake as fuck in every single aspect of her character

>>54094394
the difference is that rushia had 20k+ viewers and it was therefore impossible to have a meaningful interaction with her on a personal level while yuko reads and responds to everything, especially in her member streams. you just get more out of smaller vtubers who are doing this shit.

>>54093792
>I could see them giving up
They literally had extra successful donothons and their fans love them, why would they ever leave? Yuri got fired and no one cared, that's because they're doing great.

>>54094453
>T-this one will be different

>>54094394
Did Rushia ever drink her own piss?

>>54094205
>you are just a catalog faggot nigger who hates on random vtubers he knows nothing about
>seethe harder nijinigger
Are you like a walking parody of /#/fags

>>54093203
You cant kill the queen of gfe, shes unkillable

>>54094285
Did you get your shekels yet? I'm afraid Aviel is not gonna pay you like he did with tons of artists, keep an eye out!

>>54094553
you sound called out

>>54093584
Isnt she a bbc whore?

>>54094453
Fuck you that's me

>>54094285
I disagree.
They are doing quite well desu. No serious yabs. New gen just dropped and doing good. Highly recognized among the small corpos.

IdolEN is really just Yuko, Rin, and Fuyo. Most of their original branch disbanded due to 2view numbers.

>>54094642
lmao there it is >>54094017

>>54094619
the irony of saying this when sakana is the CEO of your favorite corp. holy fucking shit. do i need to remind you that sakana used to hang out on /vt/?

>>54083261
>Survived
They already dead though

>>54094285
as a phase fan, they have in my opinion a very double edged sword.
the 'feel' of the company and talents is more niche.
this means its both harder to grow but less likely to lose significant viewers too.

you even see it in whos popular. the less popular ones are typically more akin to vtubers you can find elsewhere.

>>54094509
so? lack of growth can still weigh on them, and even now many still show signs of why the 'sad girl' meme has never gone away. they're also women, so are more prone to let this stuff get to them even if they shouldn't.

like i said, i don't think anything apocalyptic will happen to the company, just dont expect anything spectacular from them either.

>>54085812
Jelly streams in like.. philipines time? if the Jelly Holo streams NA or even late Euro she won't be affected.

>>54094694
>IdolEN is really just Yuko, Rin, and Fuyo. Most of their original branch disbanded due to 2view numbers.
ok, you're just baiting now or you're just not keeping uo with them at all. their new gen is doing really well. coni and roca both have several 4view streams under their belt just the past week.

>>54083261
All of them?

>>54094890
you couldnt tell they were baiting with the BBC posting and saying they dont pay their artists?

>>54094285
Nah, most of them are mid to high 3views which is good for a small, growing corpo.
Idol is just Rin (and Yuko maybe).
Idol looks desperate with all the donobait streams thet do desu.

>>54094546
NTA but did Yuko do that?

>>54094636
How many other stock phrases do you have? Is that all the English you know?

>>54094968
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

Hopefully none

>>54094968
Aviel sold all of their souls to Moloch both for the ad money and to motivate them to use any means necessary to buy them back. This is my final rrat.

>>54095005
https://youtu.be/o0XrJBZYZcQ

>>54083261
Idol has the power of Israel behind them

>>54095005
she did a stream where she sold lemonaide and for a price she would piss into a cup, you could hear the audio of her pissing and could see the color getting more and more clear as she drank water but management had her shut it down because they were worried about getting a Youtube bonk, so as an apology for ending early she took a sip of her own piss to try and make up for the people who didnt get their piss in a cup

>>54094964
why are you trying to damage control kek

>>54094856
The sad girl thing is a fucking meme and they're clearly trying to move on from it.

I wonder how many talents in these corpos will apply to holo EN gen 4/5 in the future.

>>54095142
Holy shit this chick is degenerate as hell, and shes gfe... I might be interested

>>54083261
EN3 won't affect Small Corpos in the slighest, actually it can make them incline if anything because leeching it off WORKS
What EN3 will affect negatively is Council and Myth, they are guarantee to overlap so the weakest members of the previous gens will not avoid a viwerbase drop, happened to JP when the bloat kicked in and will be much worse for EN

>>54093511
Had a 3 day vacation. Here, since for some reason it was missed and this thread could use some numbershitting as well, have the newest tally a bit early.

* FINAL EN SMALL CORPO TALLY OF THE DAY * (minimum 1000 viewers)
>3,031 Rin (Idol)
>1,345 Roca (Idol)


>EN SMALL CORPO GOLDS FOR JULY 2023
1) Rin (Idol) - 3,461 - US geography quiz
2) Pippa (Phase Connect) - 2,225 - Horror
3) None
4) Rin (Idol) - 1,861 - Wii horse game
5) None
6) Rin (Idol) - 2,137 - Splatoon male fleshstreamer collab
7) Rin (Idol) - 2,940 - Minecraft
8) Rin (Idol) -3,485 - Rating hate comments
9) Rin (Idol) - 2,284 - Super Mario Bros
10)None
11)Yuko (Idol) - 1,067 - Unarchived karaoke
12)Pippa (Phase Connect) - 2,970 - Dentist horror stories/return stream
13)Rin (Idol) - 2,171 - BuzzFeed quizzes
14)Pippa (Phase Connect) - 2,463 - Beggars & Jerks
15)Rin (Idol) - 4,161 - Merch announcement stream
16)Pippa (Phase Connect) - 2,334 - Reading reddit posts
17)Rin (Idol) - 1,997 - Chat voting stream
18)Fuyo (Idol) - 1,374 - Sussy fanart review
19)Pippa (Phase Connect) - 3,041 - Reaction content
20)Pippa (Phase Connect) - 2,840 - Viewer room review
21)Pippa (Phase Connect) - 2,303 - Only Up!
22)Pippa (Phase Connect) - 1,966 - Zatsu
23)Pippa (Phase Connect) - 1,907 - Outsmarting AI
24)Rin (Idol) - 3,031 - IKEA shark naming ceremony

>PER COMPANY
12x: Idol
9x: Phase Connect
3x: None

>PER STREAMER
10x: Rin
9x: Pippa
1x: Yuko
1x: Fuyo

>>54095303
kek, no they are not. many of the talents love the meme, others unintentionally keep it alive.

>>54095374
she has basically a "sex with your little sister asmr" too

>>54095412
blessed

>>54095479
Ok im gunna need that link, or is it unarchived or members only?

>>54095142
I don’t really know how to feel about this but I do have an erection

>>54088480
Pee Drinking Gura is like the 4th biggest chuuba in Jewcorp now, she literally doesnt matter

I like /vt/ talking collectively about the small corpo scene like this. Can this be a general?

>>54095606
members
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PMIcZdBfrQ
here is a loli hentai reading stream too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5k62OYns7o

>>54095412
hey i remember you.
seems i wasn't off the mark, once the number of days streamed evened out Rin and Pippa got to nearly the same number.
you were still right though no one else in Phase is apparently competing though, so ill give you the 1 for 1, cheers.

>>54095667
>retarded rrats, numbers and oh nyo lol yab
Fuck off

>>54095412
how does this work? coni and roca have both had streams with 1k+ ccv

>>54095667
no.

>>54083261
>Idol
Jew money, and a few good talents. They're the only ones who I can confindetly say will keep growing.
>Phase
Don't fall for the red herring of Pippa connect, most of the talents have a solid 3-view fanbase and a few of them are in for the long run. At the same time I acknowledge the possibility for a YAB is the highest of all mid corpos.
>Prism
Sony money, as long as Sony wills it they'll remain.
>Kawaii
Dead on the water, surviving only because of Nene.
>EIEN
Despite all their struggles Eri and Kilia are still at it and I don't see them giving up anytime soon.
>Pixel
The Racoon girl sems to be doing fine, it's too soon to tell how they will fare.
>the other three
never heard of them. The talents could be indies and I wouldn't notice either way.

how are the nijifags coping

>>54095394
The fact that EN3 was delayed for so long has been a disaster for small corpos really. Interest in corpo vtubers in the west has either disappeared or been turned into interest in Twitch indies. Hopefully EN3 can revive some of that but I'm pessimistic.

>>54095868
How is kawaii dead?, just had a concert and they are doing fine for being a small corpo.

>>54095412
Tenma could be competing here but she decided to spam star wars and harry potter gameplay on youtube for months, kinda based ngl

Why do people think EN3 will hurt Idol? Idol has so many good talents. Yuko, Riro, Rin, Roca etc.

>>54096036
thread shitters

>>54095479
How suggestive are we talking here?

>>54095394
>new Hololive gen kills the rest of Hololive but boost the competition
How the fuck it even works? this sound nothing but bullshit.
People will come back to hololive because they want the shiny new toy and they are gonna check out the other gens, whats the fucking point in watching small corpo shit?

>>54095412
Thanks for the numbers.
It looks like Idol quickly overtook Phase. Rin was scouted and she seems to have the tiktok zoomer crowd under her(his?) belt. But there are other great talents there like Yuko, Roca (also scouted), Coni and Fuyo.
Phase is basically Pippa for the +1K but most of the other girls are consistent mid to high 3views which is pretty good all things considered.

What’s with all the buzz about EN3? Was there any actual news?

>>54096087
i think pp kissing was about as far as it got but it was some really great roleplay as far as I hear, I honestly dont really watch Yuko much
she has a giga spicy ASMR on its way that was a donothon reward goal that wont be uploaded on youtube as well.
but really if you are looking for GFE there isnt a vtuber who does it better.

>>54095974
Their talent average ccv are 50. Only Nene and sometime Lua are 3 views.

I just did a mental refresh and realized that how much I like the chuubas mattered more to me than numbers. Bye guys.

>>54096036
I got Mori vibes from Roca

>>54096209
Isla is 3viewing at this very second

>>54096117
>Her(His)?
its a grift if you want to take it in bad faith, a bit if you want to take it in good faith.
they have referred to themselves in the past multiple times as a girl when the context wasn't them as royalty, and only slowly over more recent time started cutting out the 'she' completely in the non royal context.
anyone not lying to themselves can see its not a serious thing to them, they either simply found it funnier to double down on it more, and/or got more views for doing so.

Okay what Idol and Phase talents are actually worth checking out?

>>54095772
Coni did not get close to 1000. Riro had one around ~950 but it also did not reach 1000.

>>54096305
All of them. It doesn't take that much effort.

>but really if you are looking for GFE there isnt a vtuber who does it better
*ahem*
>>54096208
but Yuko is a different kind of GFE, and so was Riifu.

>>54096117
Idol 2nd tiers Yuko, Coni and Roca edging out Phase 2nds Tenma and Lumi is the real kicker

>>54096117
>most of the other girls are consistent mid to high 3views
i don't know where you people are getting these numbers, but i looked up some of the members on playboard and most are between 300-500 avg. even lumi only has 341 avg.
>>54096337
coni's warhammer part 2 stream had 1500 viewers hen i was watching at least. pretty sure her puke torture stream had 1000+ too. roca has had 1000+ on multiple karaokes.

>>54096378
Yuko doesnt do what Riifu did

>>54096036
>Riro
lmfao

>>54096378
>>54096208
meant to link
>>54093203
If we're talking lewd, the whole EN space is mogged hard by JP.

>>54096305
Phase i follow;
>Pippa, Lia, Lumi(youtube)
Idol i follow;
>Rin, Coni

>>54096407
Lumi's YouTube is supplementary content. Her main thing is Twitch.

>>54096117
holy COPE

>>54096264
Yeah but it not her average

>>54096409
She unironically wants the same coomer audience. Her members posts/streams skip the GF part and go straight to the coomer pandering

>>54096423
wasn't Riros following actually bigger before she went to Idol? or am i mixing up which talent?

>>54096540
no they dont retard
stop thread shitting

>>54096305
>Phase
Panko, Tenma, Lumi

>>54096337
>Coni did not get close to 1000.
>>53938908
first post i found on palanq. it's cute that you have to lie though, fish simp.

>>54096594
>Hey guys how often or what about me do you jerk it to?
This was literally one of her membership posts you retard

>>54096718
no it wasnt

>>54096718
NTA but the only thing even close to that was her asking if people actually wank it to ASMR

>>54083261
I really like the PixelLink girls and want to do what I can to make sure they do well

>>54096920
Clip and clickbait

>>54096659
Anon, picrel is Coni's stream today. Please stop being fucking retarded. The Warhammer stream was on the 22nd JST time and the tally is for the 24th. Since Pippa had higher CCV she gets the 'gold' for the 22nd so Coni's name is not listed on the gold winners list.

>>54096920
no flak, genuinely curious what you like about them?
nothing was wrong with them but they had nothing special about them when i tried to give em a chance.
well, besides Nebis design. fuck me her design is fucking spectacular.

>>54097010
so pippa had 9 streams on the 24th?

>>54083261
Jews and PippaConnect.

>>54097010
NTA but the guy said that Coni has never hit 1k+ viewers and that anon showed that she indeed had. Not sure what your problem with that is?

>>54087237
Real and True

>>54096874
>>54096802
Now you guys are straight up lying. She asked if the boobros had ever jerked off to her specifically, which a ton of boobros responded by pointing out previous marshmallows they had sent or how they would send one/more detailing what they've done/will jerk it to

I plan on watching the new VNU sluts. Are they on a sinking ship?

>>54083724
>that would even effect them.
>effect

>>54096239
Mmm, now I like this sexy little purple gal even more.

>>54097081
No, anon. For 9 days so far in July she had the highest ccv and got gold that day.

>>54097184
Because the tally was for today. And today Coni's stream topped out at 673 viewers.

Man, I never thought that I'd have to think that the people in /#/ were intelligent, but I never got this retardation from them.

>>54096305
>Phase
Watch Lia, Tenma, and Lumi for their regular content. All of them are autists in different ways. Uruka is good if you like violin karaoke. I’d say check Airi out too but I spend the whole time usually staring at her tits. Pippa used to be good but her content has gone downhill.
>Idol
Rin’s shorts are fun. Yuko has been discussed at length as a very powerful GFE. Fuyo and Coni are pretty entertaining and Roca is a great singer.

Can’t comment on others

yuko drank piss on stream and masturbated for a bit in a privated ASMR.
she had a stream where she was stuck in an arcade machine with a g-spot button that caused quaters to fall out of her.
why are people defending her asking about jerking off as if THAT is somehow the craziest thing she would've ever done?
it doesn't matter because thats pretty fucking mild compared to other things shes done anyways.

>>54097380
>Because the tally was for today. And today Coni's stream topped out at 673 viewers.
Sure, but the guy still said that Coni has never been close to 1k+ CCV, which is factually wrong. I don't give a shit about your tally, the statement is just false. What's so hard for you to understand? The fact that someone else had a higher CCV doesn't erase the fact that she had 1k+ too, lmao.

>>54096239
Are you confusing her with Kai? Cause Kai is just Mori

>>54097433
because the dude literally lied about what she posted in members... idk how that is "defending" thats just calling out a shitter

>>54097047
They have good synergy, they're fun, they make the best out of what they have and genuinely appreciate every single viewer while also acknowledging the differences between their fanbases

>>54097458
Kai isn't Mori


She is Spanish Mori ayy amigos

>>54097454
You said that Coni has had 1k streams before. He explained why she's not on the tally. You're both tarded.

>>54097541
fair enough, and glad you enjoy them.
that still doesn't sound like anything unique but if it hits your buttons i hope the best for them.

>>54097541
i like the bnuuy. she's cute

>>54097454
It is not factually wrong to say that Coni did get close to 1k ccv today. If you look at >>54096337
you will notice that I'm only talking about streams that happend today. I don't make any indication of streams that occured prior (Coni's debut itself was like 5k)

>>54097676
Nah, Coni never had over 1k because she didn't win a tally. That's how CCVs work. Thanks for teaching me your wise ways, senpai.

Kai from Idol is pretty good. I think k she's at her best when she's playing games and I enjoyed her karaoke even if she's not the best singer.

>>54097648
Let me put it this way, other new corpos rolled in and went 'We have THE BEST THE FUNNIEST' and that just felt wrong from the start, some Indies these days feel more like corpos in the way they treat their fanbase as more like some amorphous blob rather than looking at them as individuals. Here we have a scrappy shoestring corpo with a lazy manager and girls who work their hardest.

>>54096036
EN3 will affect their motivation
Imagine vtubers, who are likely to be less talented and new, get more views for less effort than them

>>54097782
She did win a tally in June anon. >>52255497
Glad that you seem to have understood your error. When ya come across the tally in /#/ you'll have a better knowledge of it now. Good for you, getting that learning in.

>>54097992
You might legitimately be one of the most autistic posters I've seen on this board so far. And not in a good way.

I think if there's a risk to Idol it's not from EN3 but from internal cultural issues between Rin and the other Talents. She's very pure/advertiser friendly, but she's never going to get the full advantage of that whilst her Genmates are drinking their own piss and reviewing smut live on stream. She claims she's ok with the rest of the company being super horny, but if it acts as a block to her dreams is she really?

>>54083724
Phase so far has found the cripple/menhera/landmine girl niche and most of their fanbases are loyal so far

>>54097992
Just stop spreading lies about how member X, Y and Z has NEVER had a certain CCV just because they didn't win a tally on the day you posted it. The entire board doesn't look at the world through your fucking tally system just because you do.

>>54098246
all the twitchtubers get sponsors and they're actually whores

>>54098323
Anon, the word "never" was not in my post. >>54096337
Do you not know that if you say something "did not" happen that it's not equivalent to saying it "never has happened"?

>>54098246
Rin is a toddlercon and that is why she doesnt talk about it but is also ok with cunny pandering

>>54085529
>>54085200

>>54083261
Hope V&U dies for ruining /kr/.

>>54097297
I have watched their advertisement and seen their channels for the voices of the girls.
It irks me that some of the voices don't really match the characters and I feel sad to the person who got Echo as their model

>>54098246
Rin literally talks and hangs out with her genamtes offstream tho? She also had multiple collabs with only Yuko and Fuyo and she enjoyed her time there

>>54098642
Proofs?

>>54099143
she used to follow 2 toddlercon artists on twitter but they both have been banned
also her other life was mildly open about her lust for squid children

>>54085200
I actually like Mieko. I was disappointed when she stopped being indie and joined kawa

>>54097297
The biggest issue is that they are ran by investor who tries to chase the profit of idol. They put in huge investment with continuous ads and animated trailers etc, but didn't get back the investment in term of number. Now, they cut back completely in merch and cover budget when investing in another round for gen 3.
Liora, their most successful girl in the company, was very upset about it and I think she would have left if they didn't agree to at least put in work on 3d and outfits for couple of gen 1.

>>54099143
Lusts fort inklings and followed toddlercon artists and liked his sfw art(followed by nsfw arts in his timeline)

>>54096305
I watch Poko. Her laugh is so addicting

>>54096305
Dizzy has been pretty comfy every time I've dipped into her stream

>>54097010
Lmao. She will be 2view after the EN3 debut.

>>54099937
You will return to Holo too.

>>54096305
Pochi, Momo
Lia, Shiina, Airi, Panko
pretty entertaining girls but most of their content are whatever, your mileage may vary

>>54100095
Will you kneel when EN3 does jackshit to Idol?

>>54083261
Honestly, all of them, despite how much this answer makes tribalfags seethe. Unless HoloEN3 managed to snag 5 Kaelas who all stream one after the other every day, there will be some downtime at some point and there are enough girls in those 9 corps to satisfy that downtime, and that's even before taking into account what their content will be, so at best one or another corp will have a slight decrease in their 3view numbers in cash of clashes with interesting streams.
Yeah look at me being all reasonable and shit.

>>54100222
Maybe, if JP7 or ID4 comes out but I never did like any of the EN except gura.
The strange thing is I haven't watched any gura stream ever since she became active again

>>54098246
Idol changed their guidelines to ban future streams like that literally the next morning.

everyone talks about small corpos crumbling but what if this does the opposite and only makes them grow

EN3 might inject more people into the fandom that could potentially trickle to smaller corpos

>>54100610
>no fun allowed

>>54083261
Idol and Phase. Killia will survive but Eien will die

>>54083731
>Supported by Isareli war chest
>Supported by American tax payers
>Supported by Saudi princes
which one is it

>>54100678
Killia and Skye deserve more

>>54100678
Eien's about to release a new gen too. Just amp up the lewd aspect further and fucking manage them properly this time to prevent another Riifu and they'll be golden.

>>54100658
The smut review was even more chaste than ones Hololive did, but I guess they're really chasing the sponsor money. They're still allowed to tell dirty jokes though, considering the CEO personally armed Poko to go around naming Minecraft mobs PLAP PLAP PLAP.

>>54091438
As the only person in this thread who watches Tenma I have to say that Tenma would hate being the face is Pippa leaves.
Firstly, she said that if Pippa leaves she's leaving too but recently said that if a person who leaves does something that makes no sense then she is staying.
Blind fans and antis have missed the point and see Pippa as a single person when the reality is that Pippa is a group. The law of turnover states that when a high performer leaves, others follow. Pippa leaving Phase would cause a snowball effect of other talents leaving as well. We've seen this with Nijisanji. Only Hololive can survive top performers leaving because other top performers decided to stay and so the herd of lesser talents stayed with them. This is why individualism as a philosophy was a mistake.

>>54100610
lol You made that shit up.

>>54101415
Fuyo (the one who did the hentai review) mentioned it in her member's stream the next day.

>>54094453
google "Hindsight Bias" and come back to me with what you've learned

>>54092105
I know the name but not the logo

>>54100745
>he thinks these are all mutually exclusive

>>54101575
That sucks. Unnecessary censorship.

>>54083261
Off-topic but the icons reminded me of decade's k-touch

>>54088585
Charzu company

>>54102253
And untrue, the CEO has said as much on twitter that the guidelines have not changed and one of the girls literally did a hentai tag stream a few days ago. Fuyo most likely got the shaft because youtube was close to bonking her not management.

>>54100656
The EN market is shrinking. Even HoloEN will never reach the Covid peak unless there are new lockdowns. However, the EN3 will suck back the Holo refugees that temporarily experimented outside of Hololive. Nobody wants to drive a Honda when they can drive a Lamborghini.

>>54083261
Council won't survive, mark my words

>>54087650
>Where is MyHoloTV?
>SEA

>>54102908
Then what do you call a bunch of stream ideas that were previously approved by management/the CEO suddenly getting nixed?

>>54083724
You don't know much about Phase and Sakana's strategy.
Phase's audience is WAY differernt than Holo.

>>54104287
>WAY differernt
WAY smaller. FTFY. It will shrink even further.

>>54104428
you don't seem to grasp what that anon meant by different audience. Phase's viewership won't be affected BECAUSE there's barely any overlaps in the types of fans that watch hololive compared to phase. different groups of people won't suddenly switch to watch EN3.