/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>53889991
I like her jazz stuff, wish she leaned into that more

But her city pop and classic songs are kino too

>>53889991
IRyS is the best singer in HoloEN and one of the best in Hololive as a whole

>>53889991
>Trauma bonding

>>53889991
>ESL garble bait thread

Because technical skill is not the only factor that makes a good singer. Your natural voice is a major factor. I have a terrible voice so I am very jealous and captivated by those that do posses heavenly voices.

>>53889991
she's a good singer duh

>>53889991
her singing sucks

>>53889991
Enna is better, but somehow gura's singing makes me happy

>>53889991
By technique, the others are better. But as far as overall enjoyability, Gura is better.

>>53889991
As a regular of /vsinger/:

- Suisei can power sing, and is the most common name mentioned. Her weakness is really just one: lack of smooth transition between notes.
- Gura can sing softly with her vibrato and is suited to jazz / lounge music. Her weakness is the lack of consistency and practice. Baka Mitai and Lemon seem to be sung by 2 different people.
- Irys has perfect pitch control, but weak higher notes (not fixed in her studio covers).
- Azki has good techniques and a very soft voice, but is reluctant at holding notes (which is fixed in her studio covers, where she is great).
- Risu, when she drops the squeaky voice, is both talented and unpolished. Maybe not enough power or vibrato for some people, but still pleasant.
- Moona is also talented but more unpolished. Has a lot of errors in live singing, but does some variations not seen from others (e.g. Unravel).
- Sora is okay when she does opera or similar kinds of music, otherwise her high notes are just nasal.
- Watame, Towa, Mio, Ayame, Shion sound better in the studio than when they are live (Azki is also like this, to be fair). Pitch control during live singing is a common problem among them. I can pull out timestamps if you want but I don't want to be a jerk here if you enjoy their better songs. Among this pack I'd say Watame is the most well-practiced, but they can all shine with good studio covers.
- Rikka, Izuru, Astel are good if you watch the guys. Better than most of the girls, even.

I can't recommend that people listen to just hololive, as none of them compare to the best names of /vsinger/. Or viewed otherwise, for smaller vtubers, no one would care if you're not substantially better than the average holos.

Finally, I will note the fact that there are many hipsters who find it cool to dismiss Gura because she is popular. That is cringe. Gura's style of jazz and lounge music is her own niche, and her best songs (like Titanium) are not covered by other holos (or even most vsingers). Variety is always a plus.

>>53889991
>why?
Souls

>>53890092
I would argue Mumei is better if she sings seriously. IRyS can't sing every song better than Gura. Her voice doesn't suit it. I find her voice too high in some spots of a song.

>>53889991
Gura is shit

>>53889991
yeah it is pretty soothing, tho all of them have their own charisma when doing karaokes.
Even chuubas like ame or fauna who cant sing much are pretty fun to watch.

>>53891007
>I would argue Mumei is better if she sings seriously
lol
lmao

>>53889991
Try learning English before making a post next time, ok?

like to remind everyone gura has a natural 10 in charisma, she could be the worst or a mid singer but her charisma stat causes her to pass the checks all the time, thats how she even got this far in life.
thats also why the chumbuds are already forgiving her for ghosting them for over a year.

She has SOVL

>>53890842
Gura is the most talented one. Some classically trained sopranos can't belt their chest voices for life, meanwhile it's just another karaoke for Gura
https://litter.catbox.moe/ohp5fj.mp3
>Gura can sing softly with her vibrato and is suited to jazz / lounge music.
power + vibrato + control >>>>>>>>>>>> power
https://youtu.be/g0lQESej9zc?t=408
https://youtu.be/XRoVpIyrXPc?t=270

>>53889991
you've never ever ventured out of holoEN, would be my guess

>>53890842
I can't tell if people actually believe this copypasta or just shitposting

>>53890842
Still not going to watch your horribly managed Riot music vtuber. Thanks.

>>53891683
autism

Jesus Christ the woman streams more than once every few weeks and you fags flood the board with posts about every second of the stream

>>53891683
>Even more retarded than the post he replied to

>>53889991
Her voice is just that good. Hard work can beat talent, but it cannot copy talent. Some people are born with a good singing voice, some aren't. A hardworking singer like Suisei works hard to get appreciated for her singing techniques and not just her voice quality. Gura can just pick up a BGM and sing casually and it becomes a stage-level performance. She really is something else.

>>53892887
this but unironically. it's also why technical singers like IRyS and AZKi are struggling.

>>53892887
>talent
Gura
>talent.
Can i have the meds prescribed too?

>>53893060
Seethe, anti. Here's your (You).

>>53889991

>>53891780
Maybe (You) could try actually presenting an opinion or an argument instead of just accusing others of acting in bad faith?

>>53891683
>Some classically trained sopranos can't belt their chest voices for life, meanwhile it's just another karaoke for Gura
Retard, she completely skipped fucktons of low notes just this last stream.

>>53892414
>Can't point to anything to refute it
Retarded contrarian

OP baited a bunched of anti and seething 2views itt

>>53890092
She's okay, her singing never really wowed me though.

>>53890842
what do you think of picrel

>>53893165
So you actually believe that copypasta ? Lmao, not gonna bother to argue but I can tell that whoever made the original post is know nothing about technical stuff, you can tell that most point is just what he thinks sounded good and trying to sound technical to convince other clueless people, bet he can't even read basic music score lmao, tell you what singer will always have their own natural range that's why they got categorized but mostly only used in classical and that will be their best range so the best singer argument is kinda pointless however skill/technique is objective and the basic simple way to see how to determine which one is more skilled is by see how far a singer can go in both low and high with supported notes not just screaming or straining

>>53894316
bro you're not convincing anyone, your post is even more "trust me dude" than the other guy

>>53889991
> does ASMR
> embarrasses everyone else by how good it is
> never does ASMR again

Why is she like this?

>>53890490
not really something you can say if you want to be considered a serious person

>>53893206
>Can't refute
>Contrarian
I get that you love your oshi, I don't hate Gura but imagine saying Gura is better than classically trained soprano, singing in chest voice is the most natural thing to do, you speak naturally in chest voice, a soprano wouldn't need to lower the key of SSS to sing it, unless you want to say Gura is a male bass or baritone lol

>>53890092
meh, IRyS is mid now. there are better out there

>>53893916
That's Kanatach.

>>53894500
Not even trying in the first place just pointed out how his basis of his copypasta is just some of bullcrap, like I said just post their lowest and highest example that's the basic first thing if we are talking about technical, there are hard notes there are easy notes, hard key easy key, hard tempo easy tempo, hard song easy song etc

>>53889991
>choose a song with soft instrumentals
>sing in a soft voice
She does it 90% of the time in her karaokes and as long as someone has a decent singing talent, it will be a hit. You have to really fuck something up for that to not sound enjoyable and soothing. It's that simple.
On the other hand, songs that require her to belt and sing in a powerful voice, she's just okay at them.

>>53890842
>I can't recommend that people listen to just hololive, as none of them compare to the best names of /vsinger/.
I think Suisei is pretty up there with the /vsinger/ favorites. She has this stylishness and flair to her singing style that gives her an edge despite her unrefined fundamentals.
As for her lack of smooth transitions, I think that's because she likes to sing in staccato (and is quite proficient in it). Her staccato heavy style does make her sound better in some songs but not in others.

>>53889991
i disagree, but if i'm gonna make a guess.
i think because you're looking at her loli model
and your pedophile penis is erect while listening..

>>53889991
Suisei > Risu > Gura > Moona > IRyS > others

>>53889991
Last time that I asked in the virtual singers thread about Gura, they said that she was decent but if I wanted to listen to a truly good vsinger, I should check out Konote Tenjin. She must do her karaokes unarchived too, since when I went looking for her recent streams I couldn't find any of her singing, but there were a couple of low view gaming streams.

>>53889991
>Gura is so soothing and enjoyable
very true

>>53889991
I wonder the same thing anon.
Other chuubas singing can make me smile, but only Gura makes me happy with her singing.
I don't know if it happens because I love Gura or it makes me love Gura because of it.

>>53891683
dumbfuck

>thread for singers
>still a holo vs holo
I'm glad to see the world is still at peace.

ps: picrel is on par imo if she wasn't so fucking autistic yelling on the mic. part of her charm though. The answer you're looking for has the same answer for why I stay on Moom's streams despite the gacha earfuck and can't stay on Kiara's for 1 min. Their voices are THAT good.

Gura compilations are usually my go to songs to sleep honestly, i could listen to it 100 times and wouldn't be tired of her voice

>>53889991
She has a very nice voice

>>53889991
It was analyzed back in the day, and she has the some vocal tones as a child which triggers a response in your brain to like her more.

>>53890059
>I like her jazz stuff
me too

>>53890842
Bae...

can anyone explain why Kiara doesn't always sing like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGGNzWm3o1M

>>53889991
X why Gura is (statement)
O why is Gura (question)

>>53903437
This is weak compared to when Gura and Moom sang it.

>>53890092
>IRyS is the best singer in HoloEN
No way, Gura >>>>>> IRyS

>>53890842
>I can't recommend that people listen to just hololive
Look at this anon trying to make vtubers a music scene kek
The indie scene can have a new Armstrong, Frank Sinatra and Whitney Houston combined and I won't watch, I like a lot of holo music but that isn't 5% of the reason I watch them.

>>53889991
Gura is a goddess

>>53903874
Gura might be better, but when it comes to singing the only thing that matters is songs, you can be a average singer with great songs.Gura has only Reflect while Irys has several songs, and lots of them are good even though they're quite forgettable.

>>53889991
Because she's still a good singer and has a pleasant voice.
Just because there are people that are technically better than her doesnt make her worse.
Same could be said for any holo.

>>53889991
She's the best singer in Holo bar none. Congrats EN, you have something noteworthy. Otherwise JP mogs them in pretty much every way.

cumbuds are the most delusional fanbase out there

>>53890092
The best at sounding like a chipmunk.

>>53899311
chumpedos...

>>53903874
I agree, but Gura needs to start getting active in more song releases that aren’t cutesy stuff. I’m eagerly waiting for that full color MV. I was blown away at the concert finally she’s straying away from Japan influence.

>>53890092
Only song I actually like from irys is Gravity, all the rest of her songs are trash and while she does have a good voice I think Gura is better.

https://youtu.be/deY_k_HnehI


Last night solidified Gura being the most flexible singer in EN. She can go from Jazz to really pop-like songs, she has a soothing voice for acoustic covers and band songs, etc.

Meanwhile Irys sings in only one way, and it’s the most soulless iteration 80% of the time, almost like she’s just not having fun.

>>53893916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeQO9jsWMwE

>>53894508
I mean she promised a slime ASMR and so far she’s been delivering. If it happens I’ll happily goom

>>53891007
https://youtu.be/JeKVw7mF4jk
https://youtu.be/-mQYyBMEucQ
?

There is a difference between singing technique and voice. Gura has a pleasing voice to many people.