/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I fucked up the name subject but I guess this will work as bait

>>53838657
thanks for your bump anon

I wish I knew more about this lumi puzzle I've been thinking about it for ages it's driving me wild

>>53839722
same
I had dreams with the hugs and bugs

Here goes nothing...

The schematics for my fangame, the 5w1h of it. I would like for anons to turn to the Supports tab and evaluate them.

>>53840175
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QO6FX0jzb12VneywMF83UMmuX01Yj3tMUzixs2VRtx0/edit?usp=drivesdk

>>53840175
will you put some arg in it with a prize? Winner gets to chose who you add next
scratch your back and we scratch yours, we will put you in the op if you promise args

>>53840218
I do not know how to do those nor have I the time nor materials. The cast is set here.

>>53840249
recruit someone for marketing purposes, idol showdown had an entire team.
Also you can also add said character it in the dlc
you should do the same for top donators or top collaborators, let the people decide
Yeah, swallow your pride and eat the bugs

Study this https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/ikea-effect#:~:text=The%20IKEA%20effect%2C%20named%20after,expended%20effort%20to%20create%20them.
Trust me. You want this. Make people feel they are part of your project. Dont be greedy with your vision and you will get allies. There is no reason for you to be alone

>>53840399
A. Who picrel
B.My endgame is for the chuubas to stream it to completion. Also, recruit a marekting team with what? Where? I canr reccruit spriters and audio mixers ffs.
C. DLC?...

>>53840540
dizzy formerly known as slugma, patron saint of all sucessful projects, savior and destroyer of tsunderia, now in phase connect.

b) If you burn out you will never finish your project to beging with. If you want to recruit people for marketing, literally hang around here, someone might offer to help you in making an ARG.

c) Finish your game as you intend. Later on you might want to add stuff in patches, like Holo survivor and fighting showdown did.
Why not let the fans decide what the next patch will be about? Why not make it a game?
That would be A tier marketing.
Trust me you will need *some* marketing too if you want Holos to play your game. The more popular it is, the more are the chances they will play it on stream.

>>53840702
A. Cute gal
B. Aside from marketing, I'mma need people on sprite work (portraits, battle anims, possibly UIs) and music people to adapt things into gba format.
C. For my final version of both the gba version and the legal version, I do have a postgame planned where you get some former Holos as well as Holos that are NPC.

*Legal version: because Hololive would get in trouble with the Big N if they tried streaming emulator gameplay let alone hacks, I'll have a Lex port so Holo can be left in peace and let their people stream it.

>>53840998
>B. Aside from marketing, I'mma need people on sprite work (portraits, battle anims, possibly UIs) and music people to adapt things into gba format.
check the wiggly thread when they are up, they have animators there

>>53841155
Hmm, I'll try my luck. I'd also need tech people, specifically coders who know FEBuilder and Lex's languages (need ones for Builder ASAP.)

>>53841266
Well you can ask right now
>>53841766

>>53841856
Aight, thanks for the heads-up!

>>53841266
>specifically coders who know FEBuilder and Lex's languages (need ones for Builder ASAP.)

Hmm try the AI threads

>>53837552
Unnamed dude in the OP is Mayuzumi Kai, graduated Nijisanji vtuber.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0YRDlV0Dyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSFWViZs5Lk&list=PL9YCkl_NHi2zzR6rpuPqmRuqzVj5gRweZ

OP you nitwit, I couldn't find the thread even though I kept searching for kay and fabe

>>53842249
I might be retarded but

>>53842249
Nanora

>>53842249
just look for global and bump every thread that upholds the pact

Ideas for esoteric OP images?

>>53843527
I had some blibical shit around with coco and gura being the beast of leviatan and the dragon of revelations but those are long gone

>>53844736
Feel like we can go deeper.
What connections can we find between Luna and Baby Jesus?

KNEEL to the kayfabe queen.

>>53846302
she is kayfabe made flesh
People rejected her message because she told the truth
she will deliver salvation from western thothery
She is a 0 year old baby yet she is an adult because she is ageless
She died for our sins when she broke her neck but she came back
She has three wise men give her presents, roboco subaru and aki

>>53846942
she's number 1 for a reason

>>53846980
naaaa

>>53846980
nanola wo tekita

>>53843527
Salome looking at a mirror and seeing debi in the reflection

>>53848211
Salome is also high tier kayfabe, maybe Nijisanji's Luna

>>53843527
The InAme schizo soundpost with the aliens and pyramids.
Ina has the deepest schizo ratlore in EN, too bad she's doesn't lean into it.

>>53846944
>She died for our sins when she broke her neck but she came back
Might change to betrayed by her genmates in Niji but was reincarnated.
>She has three wise men give her presents, roboco subaru and aki
Could change to three wise hags, Botan, Choco, and Aki.

>>53846944
>>53848801
As a Lunaito, the Three Queens must objectively be Subaru, Choco, and Botan. Her three usual collab partners.

>>53846942
Hime! I have kneeled so fiercely and powerfully that my kneecaps have shattered.

>>53848801
>>53848909
make some oc of the nativity with lady luna, three wise hags, and subaru as the donkey

>>53850638
and watame as the sheep

>>53851817
Obviously Kanata as the angel but what about Matsuri?

>>53850638
>>53853920
Luna as baby jesus and matsuri as the Mother.

>>53853940
Sacrilege!
Mother should be replaced by Kanzaki Hiro

>>53854418
>cute

>>53842030
ah

>>53837552
>lig anniversary is the 25th
op is just bluffing, right? it's just a coincidence and he decided to run with it, right?

>>53855532
op has been sending criptic messages to lig from day one so no

We have transcended the need for a subject, inshallah

>>53846942
That's my cute daughteru!

>>53857192
we are pretending to be a bait thread today to lure in tourists

>>53855532
so what'll happen in 5 days?

>>53860976
Someone will make their move

What vtuber concepts do you desire in kayfabe?

>>53863236
for females anything

For males superhero concepts or anime concepts and actually sticking to it
Nelson does sort of a lousy job, he breaks the fourth wall too often

>>53864651
>Nelson
Is that the one guy with the really unique model?

>>53865186
the one with the free domain super hero
gonna be upfront: Nelson seem to have some background in performance either as a musician or in theater, but most of the time he doesn't seem to bother.
The problem with using a stablished character creates expectations and he fails to deliver them, he constantly forgets about his character persona and instead replaces it with his "haha so funny i am dick" persona that while it is also kayfabe no one really likes, nor the women not his bros.
Acting like an asshole is empowering and it must be fun for him but it is not always fun to watch much less to interact

>>53864651
I still need that vegeta vtuber that plays fighting and gets crushed because he is a jobber and cries in frustration

>>53865726
>Acting like an asshole is empowering and it must be fun for him but it is not always fun to watch much less to interact
Yea its a line that's so hard to tow that its usually better for most people to just get off and try a different character beat. Chuubas like Sigrid kind of have that same issue where being a bit of a cynical dick is part of their character but the line is kind of blurry sometimes and it can get uncomfortable at times.
Now if he was like a goofy supervillain, I wonder if that would change things up. I've only really seen that kind of negative energy work well with Neuro sama since there's always the general consensus that getting pissed off at an ai makes you a dumbass.

>>53870593
yeah even sigrid is slight siding away from her mean persona
Villians sadly dont make for good chuubas because they need to be someones foil, they work better as secondary characters.
Ultimately in order to succeeded in this business people have to root for you

>>53837552
>Checked the aspie's twitter
https://twitter.com/QWIL_Newscast/status/1681344675851173888
https://twitter.com/QWIL_Newscast/status/1675874398589558784
This is autistic... but the good kind

>>53877785
I want to be a neophyte...

>>53877785
Spy theme?

>>53878240
I was getting a bit of an alternate history war theme with all the talk of theatres and such

>>53877785
What the fuck happened to Ukraine

So uh, Botan talk.

She rules a country in my game. Rightfully so, she rules over a land of animal people called Savan. Still no deets on how she got the throne but I made that she's well known for her level-headed decisions on and off the battlefield as well as the greatest archer there is in at least Savan. People love her rule mostly.

>>53878585
Seems more of cold war with the use of the word agents

>>53837552
>Hana
>Devoted to kayfabe
What?

>>53884619
the reverse actually, she is there because of the machia tsugu index of no kayfabe vs kayfabe

>>53877785
What level of kayfabe is this aspie?

>>53886117
so far, looks like 100%, but they haven't streamed yet I think.

The thread will most likely die soon so the last 5 fem chuubas and the last 3 males get to be in the op
go go go

>>53886789
Last for Himemori Luna!

Cool thread, never noticed it before.

>>53858122
>tour
Well it sure worked on me

>>53887115
>>53887173
do you have any kayfabe chuubs you want to recommend to the thread? we are still looking

Did you know that the Moriverse cast of characters has at least 7 characters, including 3 alternate Moris?

>>53887348
mori verse
idot like it because that implies there is more than one mori

>>53886789
tsugu always

>>53887663
There are! Nezumori and Sheriffmori are separate personas. C-man is a stranger case, since he inhabits the same reality as Mori Prime.

>>53884830
pretty unfair to compare tsoog who's a bunch of videos with a set theme to streamers who have to improv everything up

>>53889529
Still a vtuber. We need more non stream vtubers.

>>53837552
Aaaaaah finally i thought i was the only one who was interested in this, so there is a place i belong after all...

>>53889691
So you want people to just make ARG type videos with an anime girl as main character?

>>53863236
honestly anything goes, but it must be accurate to the lore, they can add small side-details to increase possibilites, but the core they started with must remain

>>53890705
Is there something particularly wrong with that? There's lots of youtuber who just make videos. Most of them, in fact.

>>53890730
Not saying anything was wrong. I actually have been considering getting back into making videos and am wandering around 4Chan for ground-level ideas and research.

>>53890719
How deep lore are we talking here? Also, should it be OC or canon within an established universe (ex: those D&D streamers)? I have a long history as both a DM and a LARPer, so working within a framework is nothing new to me. Just curious how deep a framework people are looking for.

>>53890865
>wandering around 4Chan for ground-level ideas and research.
anon, you're in the right place on the wrong site for that...
That being said, I think most people here have a custom setting in mind, setting your kayfabe in an existing setting seems like it might cause IP issues unless you did some legal homework. Plus that just gives more room for flexing the chuuba's creativity.

>>53887237
Nta, but Debidebi Debiru definitely deserves a spot in the op. Also Korone because of that keyfabe green text, I’ll try to see if I can find it.

>>53890973
>in the right place on the wrong site for that...
That got me to smile. You'd be surprised what has gotten started on this Tibetan Knitting Forum. I have seen some amazing things begin here. Nobody is an expert, but you still learn a LOT.

>might cause IP issues
True. You'd have to pick your setting very carefully. I know World of Darkness has a pretty friendly rule set (Dark Pack), though Wizards of the Coast tried to fuck over D&D with changes to the OGL recently. Warhammer is still strict as fuck.

On one hand, picking an established setting would let others interact with my character more easily in-world. This could be fun for long term evolution as others can drag their characters in to interact with mine. On the other, you also have a point about that total freedom. But the opposite side of total freedom is that my audience is stuck portraying themselves leaving me to do all the world building as the world's most interactive DM.

>>53861651
>>53860976
4 days left. Countdown begin!

>>53891155
Korone is the best example of an Evil Spirit/Yōkai that can be found in Hololive. Change my Mind.

>Creepy shrine festival BGM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VOu_HrS7Mc + her debut one.
>Shown to have a wide array of magical powers, from size change, clone Jutsu, time travel, alternate selves, and more.
>Moral and artistic preferences that border from the absurd to the incomprehensible.
>A preference for ancient and dusty content and media long past its time.
>Her youthful appearance contrasts with her extended age of 91 years. Seemingly immortal.
>Supernatural physical stamina and strength compared to her peers.
>Eager to learn from humans, but cannot wholly understand many human behaviours and traditions.
>Has adopted the finger-cutting tradition of the Yakuza without understanding it's meaning behind it. Rather than seeing it as a render of apologies from an offending party for a past sin, Korone sees fingers as a shrine offering to her person, a tribute humans willingly give to her and one she encourages.
>Seems to behave sporadically at random, will sometimes give fingers back wholesale, others reprimand you for wanting them back. Sometimes she stores them for an unknown purpose and sometimes she eats them.
>Korone eats humans.
>Incapable of understanding human pain and suffering as we do. Can sympathize and befriend individuals, but humans viewers as a whole are an expendable commodity to her.
>Will sometimes superimpose her reality upon her viewers. She will not ask if the Viewer has been lonely because they couldn't see her, or tell them that they should feel lonely. It is a matter of fact. Korone states that the viewer HAS been feeling lonely because they couldn't see her, and reality warps itself to fulfil her version of it regardless of it's previous state.
>When not calling her viewers by the misunderstood name of X-Potato, she will not use a cute, made up nickname like Nousagi, Deadbeats, or the like. She will just refer to her viewers as "Humans" and call them with commands like "Hello, Human!" or "Let's go, Human!".
>Complete alien morality. WIll proclaim she loves her viewers, even as she demands she give her their fingers as well as promising them torture with the innocent smile of a kid torturing ants, incapable of knowing the full extent of their actions, on her face.
>Will genuinely apologize if she believes she's hurt your feelings or console you if you're feeling bad, even as she expects you to mutilate yourself for her.

>>53863236
How about a male that isn't a power fantasy? Like he's actually the squire for a knight or an apprenticing wizard? If he works up the world via his tasks and gripes, it could get pretty interesting.

>>53864651
>For males superhero concepts
Eh, I'm kind of done with superheroes, desu.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>53892797
>>53892797
Most of that just reads to me like she did her research. The fingers thing is especially damning as it shows how she sees her audience (in character, of course).

Fun fact: in Japan whores were expected to give their favorite Johns fingernails or even entire fingers as a sign of loyalty to them. Being "damaged goods" lowers a whore's value, which increases their reliance on their John. In reality, she usually used nails or fingers torn from a corpse. The John, in return, promises to some day marry her and save her from sexual slavery. Does this ever happen, well.. There is an old saying...
> The biggest lie of a whore? I love you and only you.
> The biggest line of a John? I will marry you someday.

>>53894507
What's wrong? Bad pebble in shoe?

Lunaito here, first time seeing this thread. Ty for worshipping my princess

aaaaaAAAAAAAA

>>53892797
oh this is good stuff for the op

>>53895449
This is basically an extension of the Luna thread.

>>53896361
Cute!

>>53896936
all accordin to keikaku

>>53837552
HOLY SHIT
I did not notice that the OP was a gif

>Some of them however worship the curse. They believe it is but the continuation of the miracle but in disguise, since every time Holo falls they come back up stronger. They chose to act on their schemes exactly in the 25th, becoming the embodiment of said curse

is this a real anya petra thing or op is just bullshitting?

>>53898654
all the ops of this thread so far have been gifs with secret messages

>>53898821
thats more schizo than usual for an op
whats wrong with this thread

>>53900252
You're not ready for the forbidden knowledge anon

>>53900481
>those eyes
oh no

I prefer jp chuubas because I dont understand shit and I can pretend they are playing characters

>>53901285
I learned enough to vaguely follow the discussion and that's been enough for me so far

>>53900826
Luna has some of the oddest edits, I don't even know where that pic originated from or why someone would make it. It's pretty cursed.
Have a cute baby luner instead

>>53902345
its a reference to the meat chuuba

>>53864651
>>53868074
Interesting. I'm working on a model that's heavily BnHA/shonen inspired and the character I want to portray is essentially a shonen villain/rival who is edgy and hot-blooded but good-natured and angst-free. I also really really like fighting games but I'm not super good at them, so playing up the jobber aspect would be perfect for me.

>>53904477
go with a dragon ball oc png so you really send that message
if you do it will watch you
if you do a vroid I will strangle you with my own hands
If you do a bishie I will fucking honey trap you with a fake female chuuba and get you cancelled for being a sex pest

dont ruin this

>>53904477
Sounds interesting, playing pvp games could work well for you, especially if it's collabs

>>53898709
it's bullshit dont believe anya's lies

>>53904595
My model is going to be more muscular/masculine than bishie. Sort of like a cross between young Endeavor and future Trunks. But I despise vroids. I'm a capable enough artist so I'm currently doing the art myself, and I want to learn rigging for live2d. Kind of want to just go straight to a live2d model than a png because a sizable part of my communication style and humor is nonverbal or facial expressions. Even if it's scuffed at first I'd like to use the incremental improvements/additions to evoke the shonen self-improvement theme lol

>>53905067
Yeah I'd really like to do competitive collabs against hero type vtubers. FGs, shooters, strategy, racing, sports, etc. My hope is to make friends with a heroic vtuber and refer to them as my rival, even if they always stomp me or vise versa. I'd also like to eventually befriend other edgy/antihero vtubers and form a villain squad.

>>53906272
ask nelson for a collab he is decent at fightan

>>53906139
this poster is an anya

>>53907551
I believe they're referred to as "melfriends"

>>53908121
melniggas

>>53908711
thats their word, you cant use them
call them melbrothas

>>53909755
melnegroes

>>53908121
Manyagas

>>53908121
knifetorsos

>>53908121
pointybitches

>>53912336
Bladehoes

>>53903124
Why would someone make a luna edit of akira?

There's also a guy call Besioal Schmarag on youtube, he's new but what i know is that he's planning to have a story, though so far he's just remaking his 3D model, so if that doesn't interest you you might wanna wait a bit.

>>53912919
>>53912966
What's your thoughts on this?

>>53914126
I think the objectives of each thread are very different

>>53914359
It would make sense for there to be crossposters but log would need to undergo some heavy changes to actually fit with what kayfabe is about

>>53915341
they should become a tabletop and games thread and merge with vtuber games fan proyects

>>53915450
Isn't that what it already is? A chunk of the discussion is about fangames. Well, fangame, but I assume other anon projects would be welcome as well.

>>53915612
actually reach out and merge with the coder thread that is making rocksuki for example

>>53915671
The fangame thread, /fuggg/? Or /vtgdg/? I don't think either's been baked in over a month, anon... Though they'd both fall under the /log/ umbrella.

>>53915450
>>53915612
It's kind of a tabletop general but the big issue is that I think its stretching itself too thin by not deciding what the central idea of the thread is. I'm not even quite sure if /log/ has had any threads that have lasted to bump limit.
I think making it a tabletop or vtrpg general lets the lore and setting stuff remain while encouraging talk about tabletop gaming streams that different chuubas do and lets people discover new chuubas in the process as well as tabletop related vtuber projects.

>>53916588
It's stretching itself thin only because there are 3 active anons in total, everyone else quit.

>>53916677
That seems like a reason to try and compress itself to fit specifically what those anons are doing, doesn't it?

>>53916856
What those anons are doing doesn't drive enough conversation to keep the thread bumped, that's part of why the thread is trying to increase its breadth of activity.
If there were TTRPG chuubas to discuss, that might be nice, but I don't think there are any with this focus that are even 2views... Or at least they aren't easy to find. Discussing whenever larger chuubas happen to do some TTRPG-related content is more workable, but that is also a bit uncommon.

>>53916588
Its the discord fault

>>53916983
Dice Queen Di isn't streaming TTRPG today, but she's a /choc/ vtuber that professes to be a "TTRPG Analyst".

>>53916983
It wouldn't only be based on those specific chuubas, though and there are actually lots of chuubas that are interested in playing ttrpgs and have campaigns. The lore and setting parts would also fit with the theme of the thread and the anons interested in tabletop games could generate discussion based off of past games, planned games, and different playstyles chuubas show. I think a ttrpg general would serve the purpose log does while also being alot more concise and flexible

>>53917326
Ohh she's fun, followed.
>>53917393
Ttrpg are already nominally on-topic, so it's more about getting discussion on the subject there. I'll try to post about this Dice Queen next time she does a TTRPG-related stream.

>>53841266
Sounds exotic enough that you wouldn't be able to find anyone. Best you could possibly do is find a coder with experience across languages, one passionate enough to pick up this shit too.

That, or go on a sigma indie developer grindset and learn to do all of it entirely by yourself

NaaaAAAAAaaaa

>>53870593
>>53875079
Sigrid's wasn't kayfabe though. She legitimately had anger and ego issues and it would show up often on discord than it would on streams. She's been trying to work on it but has driven off a lot of viewers over time from it

>>53921550
its always a bit of kayfabe to exaggerate one natural impulses for stream, but there is always some truth beneath it.
saruei for example is a cunt for kayfabe reasons and she is also a cut normally because she is french

>>53916983
There's 4 chuubas live in the Tabletop RPG category right now, and a few more in the Dungeons & Dragons category. They're almost all below a dozen viewers. There's a few more I know of that sometimes do that sort of content that aren't currently live.

Streaming collab sessions as a tiny chuuba doesn't bring in viewers, but that's the heart of tabletop games, isn't it? Playing the game. Rather unfortunate.

>>53922973
Fubuki is also a massive Call of Cthulhu fan and has played it on other channels with different girls. It's a hidden genre of content but it's getting bigger as time goes on and larger creators get more comfortable with it.
Mint Castella doesn't play on stream but she plays in a Lancer game and she occasionally mentions it when someone brings up ttrpg

>>53922973
Ah, my new D&D oshi https://www.twitch.tv/zombaebby

>>53922973
I mean it could be fucking easy to include the audience just give them characters too like halbernatch does

>>53924208
How does that work?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>53924208
Does Hal give chat a character when he runs a collab game? Thought chat had redeems to influence the game, but not a character of their own outright in those streams.

I know he runs games with chat as players, but that's not the same thing. You need an audience for that, for one.

>>53929449
I meant the games with chats as players
Kongou does the "chat controls a character thing"

>>53906272
It is possible to do a more muscular VRoid. I am working on one, actually. You just need to understand how the skin meshes work. Definitely go for rigging and not a PNG, though: you are correct that PNG is really hard to emote through.

>>53933103
Is there an advantage to vroids over other types of 3d models like MMD models and such? Is it easier to customize/use? I've never even dipped my toes into 3D work so I'm ignorant on the subject. I just feel like MMD style avatars like those that vrchatters use look a lot better than vroids and surely they couldn't be much more complicated to create?

AIEEEE

>>53936680
Im right here no need to scream

>>53936947
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Eh guys you need to post kayfabe chuubas
any good acting you have seen lately?

>>53933680
I'm still learning the Vroid system, but here's what I have learned so far:

Vroid:
> Very easy to customize characters
> Lots of presets to get started
> Easy to create custom skins
> Blender can import Vroid to customize further.
> Pre-rigged, easy to rig new hair styles.
> No non-human avatar parts except for elf ears and smol fangs
> Tons of premades on Booth
> Default clothes items are limited in design and scope
> Only creates character, no animations

Blender/CAD/Traditional 3D programs:
> Work from scratch in general
> Make whatever design you want
> High learning curve
> May be able to create animations as well
> You must hand rig everything. Hair, clothes, body...

As to how the character moves: that is based on the program/platform you load the Vroid into. You can add more motion points and update the rigging by loading the Vroid into another program, too. I'm not to this point yet so no hand-on experience to share on that. I'm currently working with Vroid and figuring it out.

>>53940235
there is an immediate after tast a vroid leaves that is pretty disgusting

>>53940463
Are you sure you're not mixing the model up with the people behind it? Some Chuubas are pretty obnoxious

>>53914126
>>53940103
I wish there was a wiki of Kayfabe Chuubas. There could be sections for TTRPG, ARG< and general heavy acting ones to help people find what they need. These threads are kind of sprawling so it's hard to make a list.

>>53892797
>She will just refer to her viewers as "Humans" and call them with commands like "Hello, Human!" or "Let's go, Human!".
I always loved that Ayame does that too. I don't think I'd call her a kayfabe chuuba but Ayame fits the bill of an oni oujo-sama very well

>>53943483
>I wish there was a wiki of Kayfabe Chuubas.
hopefully this thread will eventually be like that

>>53943483
>>53946223
People posting when said Vtubers go live would help too

>>53943794
What else does she do that is Oni-like?

>>53946635
live posting is sadly the core of every thread
we could post acting tips i guess? seems we have a few wannabe kaybers

>>53837552
so is hana the main enemy of this thread

>>53949811
I don't see why not, she's pretty bad, and her keyfabe is zero, which she destroyed further by saying in the past that she's not acting (though she was different back then)

>>53948573
I could use a couple tips, probably some i could use without having to change character

>>53837552
I wish I knew more about this lumi puzzle I've been thinking about it for ages it's driving me wild

AAA

>>53837552
Live

>>53949811
we have no enemies
no one has any enemies

however, hana is the heel for sure

>>53960820
speaking of which, are you guys sure tdre isnt a tsugu arg? seems like the kind of chuuba who would do one

So what's going on with tsugu, is there a doc that can give me the qrd on her?

>>53963297
seconding this

boomp

p10 hate

>>53970052
link some kayfabe chuubas you like when they are live

>>53961081
>heel
what does this mean exactly

>>53971801
post luna art too nanora!

>>53952286
there ate probably more clues in her streams but you guys arent paying attention

>>53971862
Heel is another wrestling term that I believe is used to refer to either wrestlers who have villain qualities or the villain/antagonist of a wrestling match

>>53972434
and what is the difference between a heel a just a regular villian

>>53972616
Anon is using words he doesn't understand. Please forgive him.

Something interesting: Bat is actually a kayfabe monster.
She made an alt character just to play mon hun "to take it easy" yet she still roleplays her and acts differently when with her.
She really really wants to go all out with ham but she holds herself back

>>53972816
I'm a proficient Holofightz better, I know what I'm talkin about

>>53973986
tell us some holofight terms for the rest of us that dont speak wrestling

>>53973906
moriko is always holding herself back from stuff she actually wants to do for some reason
she is self tsundere unable to admit she loves some stuff because it will ruin her cool cynical image

>>53977356
Heel=antagonist persona
Face=protagonist persona
Sell=convincing the audiences
sync=When the music syncs up with the fight
drawchads= people who bet for a match to draw, not thread artists

the typing style in the op reminds me of a certain poster from early 2021 /wvt/...

>>53978940
Look my personal kayfabe is to pretend to be people for funsies. I play characters for my own entretainment. The problem is that I have been playing said characters for three years and I no longer know which ones I'm playing and when
I used to have a spreadsheet with writing ticks, nationatilities and images for my characters so I know which ones did what. I have up to six writing styles, two of which are girls and chuubas!!! :D
There were very likely two people in wvt with that style I wrote the op with, one is the original and the one is the one I have been copying all along
I have been pretending to be anya #1 ever since he left, for example
I have also pretending to be 666d6 shill of wvt for 2 years now in several other threads
I am very bored
Very recently I was pretending to be tobposter in anya petra
I dont even watch tob

>>53981061
I don't have a sufficiently schizo reaction image for this post, but uh.... yeah, I'm glad you're living your best life

>>53981395
I just really liked those people and I think its a shame they were gone.
I want to keep the illusion they are still around.

>>53981061
I'm 90% sure I called one of your characters out in an old vtwbg thread and you gaslit me into believing you were real.
If true, I kneel

>>53981464
>I'm 90% sure I called one of your characters out in an old vtwbg thread and you gaslit me into believing you were real.

I gotta be honest pal I have been doing this shit for so long I don't even recognize my own posts in the archives, I just "suspect" it was me. I have winded down since but I used to read threads all day long because covid isolation was driving me insane .

>>53981061
>>53981462
Damn, this really is an unironic schizo thread.

Who needs meds anyway.

>>53981596
At least it's a based schizo instead of an anti.

>>53981596
I was pretending to be lapis when I created lig

>>53981596
>>53981705
orcschizo takes notes from the true king, multiple personalities schizo.
I pray he'll have the strength to defeat them when they materialize as tulpas

>>53982022
One of the reasons I am so interested in /vt/ mysteries is because there are people who were interesting but never been able to figure out what the fuck they were up
I coudlnt skinwalk them properly back then because I don't understand their objectives and now that time went by I feel like looking for answers

Whats up with the meat folks?
Whats up with the globalist anya?
How many chuubas were here and how many just had very dedicated skinwalkers?
Who are those people larping with the curse of the 25th?
who is the dreamer who dreamed of koopa?

>>53982372
Also I forgot
who was the person
who wrote like this

He was a wvt I think

>>53982372
>Whats up with the meat folks?
Don't know if it's going to draw the wrong attention but I've got a theory that it has something to do with architects

>>53982450
The /umami/ alliance...

>>53982450
that makes sense

>>53982372
Part of me thinks this is a genuine new(ish)fag but there's a strong part that suspects you're posting this on purpose to bait out a "the good old days" discussion where we can pretend everything was amazing back then through the lotus-clouded haze of nostalgia

if you are being sincere, there's not much of a point in answering because it's just 4chan history, it's something that is meant to fade away rather than be archived. however
>How many chuubas were here and how many just had very dedicated skinwalkers?
they were all here, they are all here, never forget it, your oshi is reading your posts

>>53981596
I hate it so much here...

>>53982624
>How many chuubas were here and how many just had very dedicated skinwalkers?
I should go into this a bit more: obviously the ones who were open about were here.
Obviously the ones who hinted lurking lurked.

What I want to know for example is which posters were Slugma, Yunna and Purin.
There were people around pretending to be those three, specially the first one, but I want to know if it was actually them.
I know purin was here, yunna was caught with the tab open and Slugma confessed reading, but they also must have posted.

For example here is a piece of triva about the slug: she used to be a skinwalker on gaia. She had 5 avatars. She was the one who gave me the idea to do it myself.
There is no way she didnt play her fucking games with us too. She must have been a lot of our personalities back in the pre vtubia era. What I want to know is WHICH.

>>53948572
Well she has a scary dad.
Once kicked a hole in her wall because she was mad at said dad.
Also once apparently judo threw said scary dad to the ground in a fit of rage despite being tiny.
So sorta Oni-like I guess.
She also always speaks in an old-timey and proper way, really earns her "oujo-sama" nickname.

>>53983374
if only she streamed...

izumo kasumi?

>>53984200
who

>>53983810
>if only she streamed anything beside fucking Valo
FTFY

>>53985446
sad but also true

you gotta link kayfabe chuubas when they go live, then maybe comment a bit on their bits
Here
https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxGhA5BL7cu2Xiqr__6P7GyAb7Pg2-8SuQ

crazy woman having a pretended meltdown
top tier method acting

>>53989831
https://www.twitch.tv/koragi_ch
koragi today will pretend to be a cat despite being a dog

>>53989831
https://www.twitch.tv/batatvideogames
bat who likes to pretend she isnt peak GFE

At this point I don't even care if you keep up the kayfabe 100%. If you don't fucking switch to fleshtubing on the same account, I'll respect you as a vtuber.
I would still like actual kayfabe.

>>53989893
skit over..

>>53990013
watch koragi right now she is playing a second character
damn this is good acting

>>53985412
a former chuuba very deserving of this thread

>>53990263
good shit

>>53990263
Thought I was looking at Nene for a second...

>>53994600
koraginechi...

>>53982880
>a skinwalker
What does Skinwalker mean here?

>>54001421
people who pretend to be other people in anonymous forums

>>54001421
Falseflagging

>>54001733
Ok, so like if someone says they're a Chuuba when they're just a fan?

>>54002041
Lol.

>>54003496
yep
thats more common than you think

anything up with the lumi arg

>>54006331
bots are dumb so no

>>53990013
I think Unou has pretty good kayfabe despite streaming on the same channel as her flesh RM. Feels like Unou is one character and RM is another if you know what I mean. but honestly Misumi feels like an anime girl with a flesh avatar too.

>>53981462
>>53981061
I've spent years in a general and while I am not that kind of schizo yet, I can see where you're coming from bud. I'm sorry for your losses and I at least hope the other posters morale is buoyed by your impersonations.
If this post is all kayfabe, I fucking kneel.

>>54010752
The true kayfabe was the anons we larped as on the way

>>53795740
Interesting thread, I'm curious about where/whether Pekora fits into this niche.
She's definitely not the strictest in terms of her own lore or chuuba-level kayfabe, doesn't call her mom "Queen" or anything despite supposedly being a "Princess" of Pekoland, and often references irl stuff like her moving and what not without any "kayfabe filters".
Her forgetting to use "Peko" is a long-running joke in her streams. Also her occasional /x/tier rants.
She's also extremely different irl compared to her on-stream persona (unlike say, Luna), and is very kind to other members.

But at the same time, on-stream she often embodies a sort-of "villain character" persona, sometimes cartoonish, other times "criminal mastermind"-ish.
And she uses that to create small and medium sized storylines within both her solo streams and ESPECIALLY in big collab streams with the other girls (Minecraft, Rust, Ark etc.) for entertainment purposes.
Some examples -
https://youtu.be/zVoQrBnegl8?t=346
https://youtu.be/zVoQrBnegl8
https://youtu.be/HESjR-2TuEc
https://youtu.be/sXVz5gIIQzY?t=501
https://youtu.be/AlXBQqdmol4?t=71
https://youtu.be/jaHtTgb5wKI?t=313
https://youtu.be/hngaDsWHRuE?t=308
https://youtu.be/AWo0QBsMPVk?t=604

I'd even argue that this style of "story arc" creation is the best way to balance the same experience of WWE-style on-stream kayfabe while still allowing the VTuber to be mostly "themselves" on stream.
This separation also allows for more intense moments like "betrayal", "backstabbing" etc. without ruining the actual relationship between the VTubers.
What do you guys think?

>>54011322
>What do you guys think?
Pekora is high tier, maybe just below Luna and more of an icon and a lot less niche.

>>54011322
Pekora is definitely good at kayfabe. Even her "schizo" science theories are part of it because Pekoland works differently.

>>54011322
pekora is top tier no doubt

>>54010752
>If this post is all kayfabe
It's not. So basically I began as part of ritualposting, but then at some point I had like 3 rituals. Since people were going to figure out all of them were by me if I just dropped them at the same time all the time I choose schedules for them: one in the morning, one in the afternoon, and one in the evenings.
That gave them nationalities. I figured out I could just pretend I was posters from countries in that timezone so people suspected it was "them" behind those rituals, so i copied their writing styles too.
Sometimes I would talk with my original and he will said thing about himself and I would add those to the character.
Then one day those people left, and only I remained... the imperfect copy... the echo

>>54015401
> Pekoland works differently
oh that's brilliant, didn't think from that perspective

>>54019119
> in trying to perfect itself to be as real as possible, the fake is more real than the real thing

>>54019555
we should get a doc about pekoland...

niji faggot just graduated get ready for the bait storm

>>54023148
just keep bumping occasionally

>>54025635
is the wiki real?

> TFW you decide to DIY everything but you can't admit to it because kayfabe
Argh!

>>54023148
Whom?

>>53978859
the smell

>>54026243
Depends on how good are you with interdimensional VPN.

>>54031896
you can make it real
no one has to know
we can be a little devilish
i sabotaged wikipedia 10 years ago and none noticed still

>>54034213

>>53837552
neato

While looking at some rigging videos, I found a pretty relevant channel that talked about kayfabe related things. The big one being concept.
https://youtu.be/s7OJTip0Rsw
The model is kinda bleh but she makes some real good points as to what makes a chuuba hit that kayfabe value.

>>54037938
will watch and review give me a bit

>>54041516
do you watch any vtubers besides tsugu anon

>>54041566
No.

I like that Vedal does themed streams with Neuro.
Right now she's in a cave.

>>54042467
thats some admirable dedication then

>>54043731
Does vedal actually has any real kayfabe himself

speaking of kayfabe shondo is very decent at playing her loli character
turns out she is actually tall

>>54047302
Not really, or at least I can't think of anything on the spot.

>>54047375
i like shondo but like she says there is no character. when it comes to kayfabe not a ton is there aside from the very occasional references to her being an eldritch shapeshifting goo monster, and even then its usually when she's reminded and cracks a short joke about it.

>>54050050
There's always a bit of a character that gets played up, even though shondo's an actual schizophrenic she has a lot of moments where she plays up the trait of being an unhinged anime girl.
Unrelated but would Lily Hops be high end western kayfabe?

>>54051286
>Actual schizophrenic
I might need some source on that...

Sloth should belong here. She is a sloth vtuber who is slow stupid and lazy

>>54054851
I admire your kayfabe of pretending to like sloth when you actually hate her schizo san

>>54054065
I thought this was well known?
https://youtu.be/Tf1bbIQ8a0k
She mentions some pretty scary delusions like her keeping a knife under her pillow but from what I can tell of her, she seems to be doing well with it.

>>54047501
He loosely talks about himself as if he's actually a turtle sometimes and plays into the "Neuro's dad" thing, but that's kinda it.

>>54061550
damn, there is a missed opportunity there to play along with neuro

>>54062038
He does sometimes. Honestly, maybe his biggest kayfabe is responding to her as if she's a being that can actually understand him and not just an AI chatbot he made.

>>54063431
>maybe his biggest kayfabe is responding to her as if she's a being that can actually understand him and not just an AI chatbot he made.
That isnt kayfabe at all, Vedal has undoubtedly gone full parasocial for Neuro

>>54063676
thats his daughter
of course he is going to go parasocial

>>54063676
>Not having attachment to your own creation
>Let alone something you identify as your own child

>>53990263
>watch koragi right now she is playing a second character
Correction: she was playing one of her alt characters (Nekoragi) doing an impression of another (Nezumi).
She never drops the kayfabe of them all being separate people even in DMs, and sometimes they talk to each other on-stream or even talk at the same time. She's also alluded to other zodiac animals who haven't shown up on-stream.

IIRC she was working on a videogame with the trio as playable characters.

>>54068879
Here's her last stream as Nezumi
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1873901562

She's got a playlist of VODs where they show up
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLggOATzJoV7P_7pu7Mg0goWxtD8Rvx8Se

>>54068879
>>54069112
this is some fine acting, full schizo shit

>>54068879
>she was playing one of her alt characters (Nekoragi) doing an impression of another (Nezumi)
While also posting in chat as Koragi to bully herself

>>54069398
Nezumi has a fleshed-out backstory and everything, how she acts like a haughty princess because she's overcompensating for being only working-class despite coming from the most prestigious of the 12 zodiac clans. She regularly uses malapropisms or falls for obvious scams or forgets the name of her made-up butler mid-sentence.

And Nekoragi doesn't stream as often as Nezumi because of her social anxiety issues.

>>54070016
https://twitter.com/HimesamaNezumi
Oh, and Nezumi is a raging fujoshi. Koragi is a *yume*joshi.

Sena doing a schizo stream about energy vampires
https://www.youtube.com/live/f3uL8iwHZTc?feature=share

>>54071118
I thought Sena's schizoism was just kayfabe but she's actually done her research, holy shit

>>53796718
I cannot find the original post that's backlinking to >>186312981 .
I just want to look for the original conversation and verify the claims and make sure it's not just a made up rrat.

Kurokami Fubuki: your thoughts on her /kayfabe/

>>54074292
dual character is not only top tier kayfabe but also top tier vtubing
Sticking to only one character limits the medium

>>54074292
I love how you can sometimes overhear Fubuki giving her hints in the background

>>54074604
damn thats full schizo

>>54073023
Can someone link me to the actual Lego Friends study article or the discussion of it?
I dug through 4 different archives for the post number and I got nothing.

>EN3 announced
this thread is going to die isnt it

>>53837552
No one ever talks about Debidebi, She is always in character

>>54078923
Actually debi was mentioned early on

>>54079173
false

bump limit reached!

well the thread survived till bump limit, guess its time to prepare another schizo op image

The 5 chosen for this op are (since they were the last mentioned before bump limit) :

1- Debiru
2- Fubuki
3- Sena
4- Koragi going full schizo
5- tsugu

The male winners

1- vedal
2 - Power Nelson
3 - Mayuzumi Kai

Hmm maybe I should do a gacha system with numbers instead of last? This seems rather exploitable. What do you guys think?