/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Yo dawg, I heard you like games so we put a game inside your game

It helps that Cover is very lax about fans using the likeness of Holos for their projects.

>>53848378
>where is my nijividya

>>53848378
The faggot dev nerfed collabs just because his autism for the 'leaderboards'.
I bet he would waste a lot ot time on the feature instead of doing Gen 3 & 4.

>>53849168
>dev balanced op thing
>throw a rant about how he sucks at the game
what did anon mean by this?

Is a very good well built fan game vampire survivors style. one of the best. Not a fan of this style of gameplay tho, I find it is a game for dummies. auto shooters kinda dum
I can understand why vampire survivors and the clones of it are so popular tho, there are an awful lot of dumb asses out there

>>53849168
git gud noob.

>>53849275
He should be rework the shitty collabs like Eldritch Horror or Stream of Tears, not bring down every other one to that level.
Now, sticking with solo weapon runs would be even more effective.

>>53849168
>>53849623
imagine getting mad at a FREE fanmade game

>>53849168
You know I would have taken your comment more seriously if you didn't out yourself as a butthurt last samurai.

>>53849695
A game, even a free one, that makes shitty choices is a shitty game. And should be called.

>>53849735
I want more characters to play, not a feature that is just a sinkhole of resources.

>>53848765
Pretty much this. It's been pretty liberating having a company that permits fanmade content of their IP without worrying about copyright infringement. Like, Cover has terms laid out for fanmade work, that's pretty fucking amazing when you compare it to other companies that just shut them down outright.

>>53849839
You are just gonna seething when you see no green whore after gen 3 update.

>>53849854
>After Effects

>>53849854
>copyright infringement
Consider Disney who had something like a 90 year copyright term for their media.

>>53849623
I've been running solo weapon runs and the effectiveness of going solo weapon is even more character specific than doing it normally. Unless your playing IRyS and Mumei who are braindead overpowered no matter what or Ayame whose kit lends itself well to solo weapon play than everyone else is handicapped to wildly varying degrees.

>>53849945
Tell me about it.

>>53849754
a shitty choice doesn't make an entire game shitty unless it outright breaks something you dramatic faggot.

>>53848378
They're called holobronies for a reason.
STEMFAGS go the furry or the CGDCT(And ponies are a part of that, fite me) route, there is no inbetween

>>53849168
Nothing a little bit of black magic won't fix

>>53850164
It would break many things because first he starts with the collabs, but then he goes with a rework of the characters and sooner than later all the time of development goes into trying to keep the game 'balanced' for a one specific feature.
Nobody wanted balance in the game, they want to feel that their favorite are overpowered and have a easy time grinding for gacha rolls or costumes.

>>53849168
It was and always has been a passion project. The game is easy enough so I don't really care either way

>>53848378
The real talents were the fans we made along the way

>>53848378
Is this game better than VS?

>>53851105
you know, he's not doing this for (you), he's doing it for himself. Basically, he's trying to learn how to make a game using Hololive's IP and that includes not fucking up the game's meta

>>53856720
No, but it is pretty good.

>>53848378
I hope we get a diablo clone or a deck builder one day

>>53856720
They take turns being the better one with each update

>>53848378
It's not about talent, but knowing which fanbase to target you project for maximum exposure
you could make a game that include both Vshojo and Nijisanji but it would still be behind a Hololive centered project
be a game, animation and so on

>>53857094
Helps being a fan though. A passionate fan that would keep doing this for free.
Kay Yu animated Mori's and Gura's Music Video「Q」.
And a key animator for many major anime and games from SAO to Bleach:
https://holocure.fandom.com/wiki/Kay_Yu
He could spend his free time elsewhere. But he's a Hololive fan.

>>53856720
I can't play VS without hololive reskin mods which haven't been updated in a long time... Unfortunate

>>53857094
But it takes a passionate fan that would keep doing this for free.
Kay Yu animated Mori's and Gura's Music Video「Q」.
And a key animator for many major anime and games from SAO to Bleach:
https://holocure.fandom.com/wiki/Kay_Yu
Not a small animator. Could be spending his free time elsewhere, but he's a true Hololive fan.

>>53849168
I see where you're coming from. I appreciate that the devs created such a huge feature but I'd rather they'd put it in a new standalone game rather than combine it into this one. Indie games are always better when they focus on perfecting one particular type of gameplay instead of trying to combine several games in one.

>>53849623
Eldritch Horror is alright especially when it has something to play off the life steal but yeah Stream Fujo and Light Beam are all terrible AND overshadowed by good options off items they are built from

>>53849275
>op
Come on, I've gotten every achievement in VS, there is not a single collab in Holocure as powerful as what half the evolved weapon in VS can do, mostly because Holocure isn't capable of handling literally hundreds of enemies on screen at once so it doesn't need anything that powerful.

>>53849754
i didn't even play this game other than watching 1 stream but i can tell you've never created anything in your life.

>>53849168
go back to the nijisanji containment thread, fag

>>53848378
NijiCure will change the gaming world, just you wait...

Why the fuck did he have to add animal crossing? The game was fine without it! WHO THE HELL ENJOYS FISHING IN A VIDEO GAME!??!?!?!

I mean it helps that the creator has worked with Hololive in the past too.

>>53861700
I do, stupid bitch

>>53856720
It depends on what you want out of a game. VS is more brain dead than holocure but also delivers the power fantasy feel better. Holocure is more skill dependent

>>53861700
Foobs..

>>53861700
I do...

>>53861700
Get a load of this city slicker

>>53848378
If you get upset at this statement, I kinda implore anons to actually think about the slew of fangames that nijisanji/vshojo/phase have made

>>53859385
Is just common sense, the moment that many games start to step in the 'competitive' scene when they where never intended to be that way the quality of assests and gamemechanics of the rest of the game starts to plummet down.
>>53859843
Precisely because I'm not a mindless dron like a nijicuck, I want to play with more holos and don't need to wait 2024 for it to be possible.

>>53848378
Boring game

>>53848378
If only I can code, I'll make holo rpg with sprites ripped from the cure game with abilities stolen from dota 1. Gacha mechanic is a must

>>53864015
There is a wiki with plenty of Nijisanji JP fangames but EN's side is extremely dire considering like 80% of the fans are still women. No idea what's going on with VShojo but it'd be difficult to make anything of them in the first place due to any real bonding between characters

I still desperately wish NijiEN would get some quality games involving the girls but I'm too stupid to program anything myself.

>>53865713
NijiJP does a lot of heavy lifting in general. In general both Niji and Hololive share the same DNA from old 2hu games. It makes me happy, since nu-2hu is a fucking disaster to look at.

>>53848706
kek

>nerfing
No, Kay Yu is taking the opposite lesson. The solution to shit being busted in Holocure isn't to nerf, it's to make new shit that's even MORE busted. It needs to be an arms race of overpowered.

>>53864229
balancing stuff sometimes doesn't suddenly make a game competitive you fucking retard.
>I want to play with more holos and don't need to wait 2024 for it to be possible
you can bitch about changes you don't like (and i'll call you a retard for it if it's stupid) but seething that a free game is not giving you the content you want is something you have 0 rights to do you entitled bitch.

>>53849990
Everyone gets the same copyright terms, anon. It's just Disney is the one lobbying for the laws, while other people are voluntarily waiving rights.

>>53850257
>STEMFAGS
science, technology, engineering, mathematics, fine arts, and gender studies?

>>53848378
what talent does roboco has? Besides making my penis hard.

>>53849168
based

>>53848378
compared to what?

>>53856720
Holocure allows twin-stick controls for independent movement and aiming, so it's better
That's not the only thing that makes it better, but it's the most definitive

>>53848765
Always does, Tohou is only as big as it is because the tremendously lax attitude the creator has, people can actually sell all fanmade things Tohou without worrying about being sued.

>>53856720
I think so, but thats just my opinion.

>>53861700
Every good game has fishing mini games.
That's a fact. In fact, Fishing mini games makes a game good.
t. Sega bass fishing duel enjoyer

>>53876132
Counterpoint: being able to aim only matters in the first 2-3 minutes of a level in VS, and even then only for certain characters.

>>53879075
Counter-counterpoint: adding more player control allows deeper level and enemy design which makes the game more engaging for longer during a given run

>>53879564
The problem with that is these games are designed around the screen being basically unreadable in the last 5 minutes because you are firing off so much shit with the enemies being constantly spawned, that there's effectively just an instant death radius around your character that makes it no longer necessary to even have the controller in your hands anymore.

>>53879931
And yes, I'm aware that pic doesn't even remotely describe what I'm talking about, but I'm failing to find what I'm talking about through google images. Everyone that's played the game enough knows what I'm talking about though.

>>53879931
High-level Holocure trades bullet heaven for bullet hell where it becomes more important to dodge enemy attacks than take them out
And they added an attack opacity option so that your own weapons aren't obstructing your vision

>>53880073
>High-level Holocure trades bullet heaven for bullet hell where it becomes more important to dodge enemy attacks than take them out
Eh, I've beaten every stage and it never reached bullet hell level. Even the hardest stuff is retardedly easy with Mumei, no other weapons, and the bonus power for empty weapon slots stamp.

>>53880234
I don't necessarily mean difficulty level but design
And the game will get harder the more stages get added

>>53880365
I have a feeling Kay Yu will never make it truly too difficult or he knows none of the girls except Mumei will beat all the content.

damn it's almost like making a fan game for the biggest audience is beneficial

retard

>>53880430
as if, he's now in a weapons race with Kaela

>>53864496

AGAIN?

>>53880543
How is it beneficial for Kay Yu and his dev team? The game is free and there are no ways to give him money even through indirect means. This is a project made out of love and passion, and creativity, things that other vtuber fanbases lack.

>>53848378
*has

>>53848378
Yeee and BFA up next. Aka Holo Emblem.

>>53848378
for real though why put in BOTH indonesia gens over jp gen 3 that everyone has been waiting for because it's the most popular jp gen? did we really need kobo and kaela in the game before pekora and marine? fuck

To have a fanbase that makes things like Holocure, you need two things; scale and emotional investment.
The bigger the fanbase is, the more likely you're going to have a Kay Yu or someone similar who has the skills and know how to actually make something amazing.
The more emotionally invested the fanbase is in the talents, the more likely they are to be inspired to spend the hundreds of hours of free time to make amazing things like this.
Hololive has the scale and has the emotional investment which is why they have dozens of games, many of which are surprisingly high quality while being completely free. Nijisanji JP also has both qualities to some extent.

>>53872573
Extra stats at level up & AoE attack, stun item.

>>53872573
Making my penis hard

>>53880543
The game is free. The guy is doing out of passion lol.

Reminder that Cheebs has her own video game

>>53848378
Is it out on Steam yet?

>>53848378
It helps that the IP is so strong

>>53858371
While Kayu is indeed a passionate fan and he definitely could've spent his time elsewhere, I highly doubt he did it for free, anon

>>53887902
August 17

>>53882885
>Nijisanji JP also has both qualities to some extent
Do they?
Do they actually?

>>53889666
He does anon, it at the very least he isn't being compensated with money, despite cover's attempts to do so

>>53889666
If it was sponsored by Cover, there's no reason to hide it. There is no way to even send him money in support.
You're doing some mental gymnastics without saying anything to support your claim

>>53880430
Sora, Reine, and Kaela can beat anything with their autism

Making games is tough. I am not looking forward to drawing Risu.

>>53882789
The ID girls played the game far longer than anyone else as a whole. It could also be a nice business decision to blue ball gen 3 fans because of how massive they are so they're still anticipating the future of the game.
I can also see it being the first point of controversy if they want to include Rushia or not

>>53892024
good luck

>>53848378
also the most annoying

>>53892843
jealousy is an ugly color

>>53891823
Yeah, Niji JP fanmade games do exist

>>53892024
Is this a clicker game? A Hololive clicker game? with sly /vt/ references?
Why are you making the perfect game just for me?

>>53893214
Your perfect game is a clicker? You're genuinely pathetic.

What has /vt/ ever done for the Holos? What have (you) ever done for the Holos you support?
Redditors out here proving they're the strongest race

bronies so proud over one average game, when they add stars this game will be forgotten just like every holo liver who collab with stars, disgusting unicorn only exist in bronies fanbase

>>53849854
whats that easing plugin called?

>>53862670
>Holocure is more skill dependent
LOL
LMAO EVEN

>>53893376
didn't mysta stream a brony game just now, nijisis?

>>53861700
he took inspiration from digital extremes adding another game into their game with every update

>>53877845
Agreed - recently got Nier during the steam sales and the first thing I did when I discovered fishing was an option was spending 3 hours doing exactly that

>>53893454
Retard

>>53893308
>for me
I have played a lot of clicker/incremental games. Like, all of them.

>>53849168
I don't care about what game we are talking about, if you're complaining about nerfs you're a fucking retard who can't handle not being stupidly overpowered for once. Do you also want a participation medal, since you enjoy being the best with no effort at all? God i fucking hate this mentality, retards like you are trying to ruin diablo 4 (and many other, less relevant games) for no reason other than their rotbrain not being able to handle a normal gameplay loop. Yes, i'm mad.

>>53894943
Haha lol mad

Whatever happened to that Selen game?

>>53893391
https://m3.material.io/styles/motion/overview
Google's Material UI Easing Panel. I use it as a starting-off point sometimes for easing curves.

>>53895222
What Selen game?

>>53895222
>>53895398
Wasn't it supposed to be a painfully difficult platformer?

>>53880430
Kay a while ago stated that base stages are for casual play and something for most of the girls to actually beat while hard mode stages are for difficulty autists that actually want to cut their teeth on increasingly tougher content that gets harder every new version. He doesn't expect most of the Hologirls outside Kaela and Mumei to actually have a go on hard mode stages so him and the designers can basically go wild with them.

>>53848378
More talented than the holos themselves.

>>53893376
Stones and glass houses.
I despise these bronies but you got yours too. Dont forget it.

>>53895222
It exists and that's about it. Theirs not much you can do with a Megaman Platformer content wise once it's released outside like adding in a level and maybe a boss so it's effectively a 1 and done deal for a game especially when it's focused on a single chuuba. Idol Showdown and Holocure have the benefit of being agency wide games so post release content in new characters will keep them alive for a while.

>>53895373
thanks

>>53894509
holocure is so fucking easy to the point where beating a level is a chore rather than a challange
the game makes 10 minutes feel like half an hour

>>53849695
Same fanbase that gets mad at female vtubers interacting with men.

>>53896713
>I actually feel more limited and it's not just because of company stuff
>It's also because of past things that happened being in luxiem, past controversy bullshit from fans
>so a lot of you know that I said a long time ago I never want to do an off collab again and that's still true
>I'm very scared to do what I wanna do
>I would love to go to close friend's houses and do collabs with them and shit but it's too much of a headache
>My mindset in the past was I have an idea, I'm gonna do the idea
>But now it's I have an idea, but am I allowed to do the idea and then is it a good idea to do it with people I wanna do it with
>how will it affect me and them, how will things be in the long and short term for us and will this affect future collabs with other people
>more times than not it's more risk for the other person
>you guys have seen how fucking crazy luxiem, vtuber fans can be
>people in chat here are silent but they chat on other websites
>and these people will go out of their way to harass anyone I talk to

>>53848378
>Hololive have the most talented fanbase by far.
its hard to argue against it

>>53896707
VS is easier and actually takes more of your time. What's your point?

>>53898671
IDK

>>53849945
What would you prefer?

>>53882402
Even if it doesn't generate money it's a pretty big and popular project to be able to list in his portfolio

>>53903329
Yeah and Cover probably wants him for even more future projects.

>>53892882
it sure is

>>53893214
I'm not going to put many /vt/ references, and certainly not any malicious ones

Ya know out of all of the projects to blow up, I don't really get why this one did. There are countless games made for the girls that get like 1/100th of the attention this one did.
I mean it's not a bad game but it's just okay

>>53908652
Because it's a Holo version of VS.
Why VS itself got so popular however, I have no damn clue

>>53908652
It is extremely high quality, has high replayabilty and has stuff for every single fan and Holomember to find, has tons of clippable things, etc. It's a perfect fangame. The other stuff like the Flare RPG for example is just megaman with Flare. There's no substance to it.

>>53908652
Contains a bunch of girls, better than its inspirayion fotm that was popular at the time, genuinely good gameplay and art and everything else.
Besides Councilrys RPG and Idol Showdown, which have similar levels of quality, I don't think the love is undeserved. If you have better stuff that is also good, let me know because I'd love to play them.

>>53910325
>>53910228
>>53909488
I dunno I'm just not a huge vs fan honestly, I applaud the devs tho but the game itself never felt like it was worth the huge amount of hype it gathered and has maintained even to this day.
I'll also be honest and feel like the other anon who mentioned JP should have been added before ID were pretty correct

>>53848378
Yo dawg, I heard you like games so we put a game inside your game

>>53911892
Well like it was said, which game do you think is a better fan game than holocure

>>53915843
Honestly the fighting game I thought was pretty good for a small indie fighting game but it got like 1/100th of the popularity. It came out and instantly fell off

>>53877038
Well unless you make a super shitty fangame like western2hu fags have done. Ironic VN's please go home.

>>53861700
legally required for japanese games to have a fishing minigame

only in vt will you see ppl angry over a free game

>>53920482
People get angry over free games all the time in /v/.

>>53871017
Chances he's a lol or dota player? He definitely learned this shit somewhere. I'm not complaining. Balance by turbobuffing is funny as hell

>>53848378
It's up there, but they still can't compare to the sheer insanity of Sonic and Touhou fags and Bronies

>>53848765
That's the secret ingredient. Touhou's fan presence is as large as it is primarily because ZUN is lax enough to allow people to profit off the ip so long as they keep it indie. Even larger for profit projects are allowed with ZUN's explicit permission.

>>53908652
It came out when VS was still exploding in popularity, it's easy to sink time into, and the dev is a relatively known figure already in the community what with him having animated Q for Mori and Gura plus a fair amount of pixel sprite animations that I believe were used by a number of Holos prior.

>>53918314
Fighting games are generally a niche genre that don't really attract or hold as much of a player base as other games since they filter out casuals due to "complex" inputs and constantly getting stomped by more dedicated fighting game players. Idol Showdown also came out like a 2 weeks before Street Fighter 6 so all the fighting game players went there when it released.

>>53892024
>Rushia
YAB

>>53924200
That's fair enough. Like I said I'm not dissing the dev I think it's incredible what they've done but I just find it bizarre how much it blew up
>>53923001
I also completely forgot he did Q. I kinda hated Q ngl, so I didn't watch the MV more than once

>>53848706
Have you stopped thinking how many years ago this meme first appeared.

God, I'm old

>>53865181
based lvl 1 7 second enjoyer

HOLO RULES NIJI DROOLS

>>53848888
Wasted quadsbro, you already have one
https://gioba-games.itch.io/rocksuki

>>53924790
The devs claim they asked permission to use Rushia in the game and got teh OK.

>>53934855
Journey of Calamity mogs Rocksuki
https://dekhadmai.itch.io/journey-of-calamity

>>53924790
Why wouldn't I put her in

>>53895398
It doesn't exist

it's just whichever fanbase is the largest will naturally be the most talented

look at china and the olympics

>>53892069
We'll see if they can convince Flare to be in it. She will flip shit if she has a bow for her weapon.

>>53892024
>Making games is tough
true

>>53861700
Skill issue

>>53895398
>>53895444
>>53942988
See >>53934855 for Selen fangame

>the fans only did it for the money and because Hololive is bigger
The game is free and the creators don't get paid by cover at all
>well they did it for exposure
The guy did animation work for One Piece, Bleach and Naruto.
>well the game sucks anyways

Niji cope is so weird. Is it really that hard to admit that the EN side of Niji just kinda sucks? I love some of the Niji girls but the vast majority of the fans are the least likable people in the planet.

>>53947012
You don't have to put one thing down to like another, anon.

>>53946659
>fangame
lmao

>>53892024
Nice to see you still working on this. did you get anyone to help with the sprites?

>>53950367
Sort of. I found someone to draw Risu but they aren't very good and haven't drawn in over a month. I definitely am considering looking for someone, but first I might try drawing Risu myself. Sprites take a long time. If there's one thing I'd love to get someone to help me with would be correcting the sprites I did wrong. Like the Rushia nendoroid and the Bae hydraulic press machine, they aren't drawn in the same POV as the other stuff. Same with some Risu accessories I drew. Maybe once I get a beta out I can have a better chance of finding people to help me

>>53949701
it was made by someone claiming to be a fan, and is technically a game even if it is shit

>>53893376
>liver
Way to out yourself, stupid

>>53950892
What's wrong with that name/

>>53848378
How can a small corpo gain such a fanbase?

>>53946659
thanks

>>53952978
They can't.

>>53943058
What about them.