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OH MY GAH - Edition

What is /asp/?
/asp/ is a thread for vtubers to give and receive advice related to vtubing.

>Should I stream on Twitch or YouTube?
Most people would recommend against streaming on YouTube if you don't have an established subscriber base from making videos.

>Is there an audience for X?
Would you watch someone do X?
Is someone already doing X?

>What video editor should I use for editing clips?
DaVinci Resolve if you don't feel like spending money, otherwise use Adobe Premiere Pro.

Open company auditions:
https://bravegroup.co.jp/audition_en/
Hololive (Open indefinitely): https://audition.hololivepro.com/en

Useful links:
General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
Op-Sec: https://mauthedoog.medium.com/21-privacy-tips-vtubers-need-to-know-ce93082cd166
Twitter growth: https://controlc.com/9eba2fbc
What to avoid: https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt

Stay grounded, stay hopeful.

Previous thread: >>53729826

>> No.53808363

>>53808335
How are you? I am fine thank you.

>> No.53808384

>>53808335
>/asp/ - Aspiring Vtuber and Startup
THE SUBJECT YOU FUCKER

>> No.53808470
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If you can't even name one successful male vtuber then they simply don't exist. It should be easy since male vtubers are so rarely successful.

>> No.53808631

>>53808039
it was just an example, there's a lot more things that are useful to get into such as gpu vs cpu encoding, audio settings, recording settings. Sometimes it also helps explaining how things work to teach people more.

Everyone can google "best stream settings 2023" and get the quick answer and if that's the extent of your desire for knowledge then you don't need to watch someone go over those points for you. At worst it's edutainment about a topic that is about what people here are doing already.

>> No.53809152

Anyone handcammed narrative boardgame sessions before? I just got into sherlock holmes consulting detective and I'm worried about the super tiny texts, do you constantly zoom in on the texts or do you just scan the booklets and capture it on obs?

>> No.53809292

>>53809152
I have, I was playing big box rpg games, I would suggest grabbing a document camera for dice rolls and narrative cards. It helps a ton for viewer clarity.

>> No.53809988
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53809988

Here's your male schizo bro.

>> No.53810023

>>53808335
Finally a non-haru OP, I don't know which groomer is shilling for him so hard but he should stop before I rape the dog

>> No.53810124

>>53809988
It's either od*tte or sh*nia, both should go back to /wvt/

>> No.53811372
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53811372

Made some progress and was wondering if I could get some feedback before I lock it in and make my live2d model. I can't really get the jacket to look right so I'm thinking I should just drop it for now and add it to my model later once I get some more practice in? I don't know. ;v; Also I tried making the covering bang transparent to see the eye underneath somewhat like one anon suggested, but I couldn't get it to look right so I don't think I'm skilled enough yet to do that.
I have a problem with my drawings looking like bobbleheads so I made some proportion edits on the one on the right, but I feel like there's something still off... Or maybe I didn't change it enough orz
Any help is much appreciated, thanks. ;v;

>> No.53811603

I wish I could draw....

>> No.53811652

>>53811372
Thick thighs save lives

>> No.53812055

>>53811372
having the jacket as a toggle is definitely a good idea, but if you consider it an intrinsic part of the design then it's better to be scuff than missing entirely. I wouldn't recommend having the second eye visible through bangs, it can be kinda weird. honestly I don't even notice the proportion changes in the last one unless I look real close. I don't know if this is an artist's thing where it bothers you more than everyone else or I just don't have the right eye for it but either way you gotta remember most people seeing your model are gonna have it on a small screen at a low resolution so it's not especially worth getting hung up on unless you're gonna go a lot more drastic.

>> No.53812123

>>53811603
what's stopping you?

>> No.53812147

>>53811372
Honestly, it's better that the eye isn't visible through the hair. It would look really weird. The jacket looks fine to me. Also what's the theming here?

>> No.53812369

>>53807461
it's jignx/visage, he's mad that they ditched his discord

>> No.53812402
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>>53811372
I'm your fan now, you have +1 viewer

>> No.53812683

>>53811372
looks really good, I preferred the more cartoonish looking one that you showed originally but that's just me, as for the jacket I don't think it matters much.
Also bigger head make her look more infantile which clash with the wide hips and thicker thighs unless thats what you want but that also makes it looks more cartoonish so idk.

>> No.53812901

Asked this in the last thread but it got buried under networking discussion... How did everyone design something they actually felt connected with? I'm a good character designer but I can't seem to settle on anything.

>> No.53813057

>>53811372
put an nsfw #hashtag on twitter, there are horny artists outside and your cute face and beautiful body want some fanart

>> No.53813138

>>53812901
I feel empty inside and picked a model that fit that aesthetic.

>> No.53813266

>>53812901
I'm a babi so I listened to my dick and became my ideal girl
I blame women, they're not good enough
You're probably going to need to do the self-discovery trip through the desert to find out who you are or learn to play a character that's not you

>> No.53813476

>>53812901
make your first design just fucking anything. it really doesn't matter, considering you don't know what to do. you might find yourself vibing with it, and that's perfect! but if you don't, then you'll get a feel for what works and what doesn't, and you can work from there. despite what some people think, you're allowed to rebrand and reiterate constantly. you're not a corpo, you don't have tens of thousands of followers. you have time and space to breathe and slowly find your voice, or your face in this case. use it.

>> No.53813537

I wish we had an audition thread, I feel weird posting about it in here...

>> No.53813591

>>53812901
Im lonely 99% of the time so i went with a theme that reflects that deep pit. Everything needed a hint of something sad.

>> No.53814153

>>53811603
if you want to learn I can teach you, I'm still a /beg/ but we can draw together!
if you want fanart just tell me

>> No.53814256

>>53812901
I based it off of a pet I used to have who I loved very much. As for the clothes, I'm not very fashionable so I just picked stuff I thought was cool and fit the "outdoorsy" aesthetic I was going for.

>> No.53815135

>>53812901
>males
Physically incapable of making a good design.
>women
There is not a woman with a badly designed model. They are all objectively well made.

>> No.53815424

So, I'm going to make my streamer Twitch account soon, but I was thinking about just changing the name of my current account and using that for streaming. My main reason for that is so I can keep all my subscriptions to people and not have to cancel them on there/start over on the new one.

Do you guys think that's a good idea? My IRL face and name were on there. Would somebody somehow be able to go back and see those things and dox me, even after I changed everything?

>> No.53815512

>>53812123
I have too many hobbies already :c
>>53814153
I'd be happy to just do serviceable doodles honestly! I don't wanna beg for fanart unless you actually enjoy my content hehe

>> No.53815543

Stay tuned for more! Our regular broadcast will be up soon!
https://twitter.com/QWIL_Newscast

>> No.53815544

>>53815424
>IRL face and name on any account on the internet
Unless it's an essential account that's just dumb. Make a new one and switch between them for streaming.

>> No.53815760

>>53815543
>another schizo podcast
Yawn.

>> No.53815929

>>53815543
What am I looking at?

>> No.53816093

>>53812901
I started from things I truly connect with, my irl job, a specific image I want to portray, and then mash them together with a chuunishit logo.
Have a favorite cosplay? Favorite wig? Pet? Accessories? Symbols and motifs?
What's the fantasy equivalent of your irl job? Wandering doctor? Drunk monk? Cutthroat merchant?
What kind of image do you want to portray? Wild yankee? Playful boi? Handsome vampire?

>> No.53816111

>>53815929
Some kinda schizo alternate reality vtweeter methinks

>> No.53816190

>>53815543
You know when they say too much kayfabe filters out the viewer? That's what they mean

>> No.53816314

>>53815512
you can still draw. nobody ever said you had to dedicate your life to it, or even an hour a day. just pick up a pencil and scribble something on a sticky note or in the margins of your notepad in class one day.

>> No.53816361

>>53816190
At this point it's arg levels of kayfabe. unless thats what theyre going for

>> No.53816535

>>53815543
analog horror /asp/?

>> No.53816778

>>53812901
Got possessed by a ghost for 3 days

>> No.53816809

>>53816535
When I played a horror themed character I had an idea to be a generic hoodie vroid chuuba who would get possessed by the other one over time and would present it through analog horror style videos

>> No.53816880

>>53815760
There was one before?

>> No.53817092

>>53815543
>agents
>news
>maps
This is just Vestia but with more larp!

>> No.53818665 [DELETED] 

Is there anything more pathetic than a male vtuber? Who do you appeal to? You're not cute, you're not entertaining, no one wants to hang out with you. Girls are cute, girls are entertaining, we want to hang out with girls. If you're a male reading this I suggest you kys.

>> No.53818777

>>53818665
(You)

>> No.53819447

>>53815929
>>53816190
>>53816361
>>53816535
A while ago I shared my idea for an unfiction chuuba here;
>>/vt/thread/48372612#p48413273
So the idea is pretty much being solidified slowly over time with lore and multimedia.
The base concept is a twist on the 'chuuba gets isekai'd to human world and becomes a streamer' trope a lot of vtuber backstory used.
Right now it's a prologue for the audience to get the character.

>> No.53819771

>>53819447
holy mother of autism!!

>> No.53820052

>>53819447
don't let the schizos stop you from doing what you want to do but also don't expect for your idea to be successful as it's very niche

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>>53799421
Thank you to any and all awoomfies who joined us today. That's another game down!
>>53802544
I do it, I like everyone here so I like posting here!

>> No.53822033

>>53821560
babi warning

>> No.53822165

>>53819447
interesting. i'll watch where this goes

>> No.53822461

>>53812901
There has to be something that resonates with you. Whether it’s color schemes, certain articles of clothing, other design elements. For example I love the way olive parkas with fur lined hoods look. I have no idea why but olive parkas look amazing to me. If I were to commission a live2d model, it would definitely have an olive parka. Other people have other shit they’re autistic enough, you just have to figure out what you’re autistic about.

>> No.53823061

>>53812901
i just drew, left it, drew, looked at it etc. shared one i liked. people said it was sexo. revised. i like what i have now.

iteration, basically. what i have now i identify with. i wouldn't want to change it significantly, but i can change the clothes without losing the identity.

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>>53812055
You make a really good point. I do consider it to be a part of the design as a whole, so it's probably better to keep it even if the execution isn't the best. And yeah I shouldn't be too hung up about proportions that aren't too egregious since it won't take up a lot of screen area. It's mostly going to be bust up so I should put the most focus there. Thanks a lot for your help!

>>53812147
Thank you for the reassurance! I don't really have a solid theme or lore, I just wanted a kind of creepy-cute design since that's the kind of stuff I'm into. I tried to lean into that more with the eyeball accessories which I should probably make more apparent. I also wanted a bit of a school idol vibe since I'm a big fan of that genre. Every day I wish I wasn't disappointed by miracle live...

>>53812683
Aah, thank you so much! My go-to art style is usually more cartoony, but I figured I'd go with something "safer" for my model if that's the right word to use? Maybe standard is more the word for it. I like drawing both ways though, so I went with the one that seemed better for the medium if that makes sense? I think I'll go with a smaller head then! Thank you for the input!

>>53811652
>>53812402
>>53813057
Th-thanks, you too...

>> No.53823750

>>53823648
you have a twitter up people can follow?

>> No.53824194

>>53822033
You'll need to do more than this to deter me!

>> No.53824805

>>53812901
I let my inner chuuni and autism guide me on making a design then I refined that madness.

>> No.53825103

>>53819447
My only comment is that theres just too many layers of kayfabe. new audiences wouldnt know that youre a vtuber at first.

>> No.53825332

>>53809988
The gosling to schizo pipeline is real

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>>53808335
Am I schizophrenic or did Hololive view my entry 2 times or was it all me? It says my views come from home? I don’t understand this since I have it unlisted. Says both average 31 seconds. Pls help anons I don’t want to get my hopes up

>> No.53827110

>>53826794
There are two Hololive employees living in your walls.

>> No.53827566

Is there anything more pathetic than a male vtuber? Who do you appeal to? You're not cute, you're not entertaining, no one wants to hang out with you. Girls are cute, girls are entertaining, we want to hang out with girls. If you're a male reading this I suggest you kys.

>> No.53827944

>>53827566
Really late this time! Is the anti male poster is a sleepy yuro friend? Either way, good to see you!

>> No.53828002

>>53827944
It was posted 3 times this thread

>> No.53828058

>>53827944
Schizos are always the US night owls, it's a very telling pattern for months now

>> No.53828274

>>53828058
It's too late in the east coast for anyone to be realistically up, this leads me to conclude schizos are in the west coast, most likely in California due to population density

>> No.53828474

>>53828274
>>53828002
Sorry, I'm a sleepy yuro. Guess I was projecting. Makes sense, it's prime schizo hours in Cali

>> No.53828510

>>53828274
I know a couple of schizos that live in California, I wouldn't be surprised if it was them

>> No.53828841

>>53819447
Sounds goofy, I like alternate universe stuff if it's done well. I don't play hearts of iron, but I still like the ideas they used for the Kaiserreich mod for example.

>> No.53828907

>>53828510
Name and shame sister

>> No.53829274

>>53828841
It'a got autistic levels of worldbuilding already so I think she's set

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>>53828841
Did someone said Kaiserreich ?
t.Ainslie

>> No.53829859

>>53809988
why does this dogshit spinoff thread keep subtweeting me? I'm genuinely interested to know what I did to upset you lately.

>> No.53830600

>>53829772
This new /asp/ie is making a world that reminds me of it
https://twitter.com/QWIL_Newscast/status/1675874398589558784

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>> No.53833787

>>53833043

why is ainslies character so seggs?

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Would an overlay like this be too distracting? I think it’s cute, but a part of me would rather watch streams that are full screen without an overlay taking up space.

>> No.53834210

>>53834039
my overlays are done as well now, and I think I will just change between just the game and game with overlay, depending on what I am playing desu. Don't like overlays like that since I prefer immersing myself into stuff more, but having it is nice either way

>> No.53834655

>>53833043
Sexo
AAAAAA
SEXO

>> No.53834780

So i've sat down and made a rough draft on what topics I feel like could be useful covering in an /asp/iring vtuber stream. All of these topics are things that I had to deal with one way or another during my 2 years of vtubing and 5+ years of streaming. I don't claim to be an expert on any of them and a lot of topics are going to come down to anecdotal evidence. If it's not technical stuff I will mostly just tell you my experience and some general advice, but don't think that I believe I'm an authority on any of it. That isn't the point. Nor do I think every single thing on this list is a requirement for anything. I think it's valuable to at least give these topics a quick thought and decide for yourself on how to handle it.

The technical portion will be mostly explanations on how to properly set up your stream and explain how things work so troubleshooting is going to be easier for you in the future. I will demonstrate the setup live and people will be able to ask their own questions. I think this could very well take over 5 hours to get through it all, depending on how much interest there is from other viewers / chuubas. This isn't supposed to be engagement bait i just think it could be neat to open a more fruitful dialogue about vtubing and how to avoid simple mistakes and maybe even learn a couple things.

If you have anything you would like to add to that or have any questions let me know, tenative date for this stream would be probably this saturday or sunday.

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>>53834780
I should add the list, whoops.

>> No.53834933

>>53834780
You're not very bright, are you?

>> No.53835030

>>53833043
Why are her boobies out?

>> No.53835108

>>53834933
im phoneposting from work gomenasorry

>> No.53835285

>>53834780
Why would you do these as stream topics and not as rehearsed and polished videos?? Are you expecting this to pull an audience of viewers to what sounds like an anime convention panel presentation?

>> No.53835306

>>53835108
How are they supposed to find your stream?

>> No.53835507

>>53835285
what viewers? this is supposed to be for chuubas not viewers and I think it's more fun / helpful if people can chime in and ask questions (because that's what most people want). If you convinced yourself I'm trying to shill myself in order to get any benefit out of it then making videos would definitely be the better approach to that because that actually get's some exposure. The truth is, i'm just lazy and don't enjoy video-editing nearly enough to make like 30 videos.

>>53835306
I'd unfortunately have to selfpost myself here again, but I think I'll manage that.

>> No.53835649

>>53835507
Nobody will watch a remedial course by somebody they don't know on something they're already doing.

>> No.53835822

>>53835649
I know, and I don't expect anyone to watch it. I'm choosing to do this because I enjoy talking about my hobby. Everything else is just a bonus.

>> No.53836033

>>53835822
Again, why would you do it in a stream you admit nobody will watch instead of producing edited videos? Why do you insist on doing a worse job with worse viewership on purpose?

>> No.53836353

>>53836033
I already gave you the answers and admitted you were correct, why are you so invested into this?

>> No.53836497

Has anyone had any success with tags? No one seems to be clicking on my page through my tags.

>> No.53836547

>>53836353
Because being correct was never the point anon. I'm trying to encourage (You) to produce a better product and have more success rather than spend a lot of energy to do worse.

>> No.53836589

autism, sometimes I'm surprised at how functional I am compared to real autists

>> No.53836653

>>53836497
Views from tags will depend on a lot of things. For instance, what does your stream thumbnail look like compared to others with the same tag? Are you leaning on generic tags or something people would seek it particularly?

>> No.53836776

>>53836547
And I appreciate your effort, anon. Maybe it will work on someone else. I wouldn't be here after 2 years if I had any potential.

>> No.53836820

>>53836653
For instance, game streams where the streamer plays with viewers or has one character they main over others will draw either players looking for a chance to game on stream or see a character they like. Art streams that tg their style or method (pixel, paint, animation) will get people looking for those things.

>> No.53836914

>>53836776
Would you prefer id just schizo'd at you? Do what you want but know that you could be doing better if you let go of your self-hating pride.

>> No.53837130

>>53836914
I'm merely trying to convey that you can't convince a majorly depressed individual with a few encouraging words to be productive. I'm not being dismissive about your suggestions, I even have some tutorial / tips videos on my youtube channel already, but my motivation is limited and doing the stream is the extent of what I'm capable of. It's low effort and manageable for me. I was merely asking for input and then I was going to be on my way. I am thankful however that you care enough to respond.

>> No.53837273

Yall dont need vtubing you need psychiatrists

>> No.53837928

Of course that's who it is

>> No.53838128

>>53837273
Nah, what I need is a gf

>> No.53838147

>>53812901
I couldn't decide on a basic design so I posted a vocaroo here asking what kind of character they'd associate my voice with and I was introduced to a character who reminded me a bit too much of myself. That character's design reminded me of other series/characters I enjoy so I just asked the artist I commissioned to blend them.

>> No.53838457

>>53827110
Seriously though are they all my views or are they 2 hololive or half is me half is them?

>> No.53838824

>have one game that I can reach for easily when doing my "stream into the void" reps
>it's getting canned later this year
Pain

>> No.53839051

>>53838824
poor gevo player

>> No.53839328

>>53819447
>>53815543
Monument Mythos/Gemini Home Entertainment with a vtuber host?

>> No.53839762

>>53838824
Hi Savvy

>> No.53839946

Being a whore is so fun!

>>53837130
I'm a newchuuba and I would like to watch your tutorials.

>> No.53839991

>>53839762
Could also be Dante or KnightChase

>> No.53840519

>>53838457
Are you a man? Asking because I'm a girl hoping for a view...

Also, check unique viewers. Youtube will update this stat in one or two days from when the view was recorded. If it says one unique viewer, it would be you twice or them twice. You can also check if it's a "returning viewer" (probably you, if you've uploaded videos before) or a "new viewer" in which case it's likely to be from them. But you won't have access to this data for a few days.

>> No.53840622

>>53838457
People here have said before that they likely download auditions from YouTube and pass them around the office internally. So you might not be able to read too much into those stats.

>> No.53840647

I feel like getting this hung up on a view for an audition is a one way ticket to menhera city. You should treat it like any other job application, fire and forget until you hopefully get an email asking for a callback

>> No.53840706

>>53840647
Can confirm. (Am posting from Menhera City).

>> No.53840749

>>53840647
I feel like I should actually apply to holostars

>> No.53841008

>>53840519
Yeah I’m a guy
Wait so YouTube counts your own view as a unique view?? I’m going to assume the worst and that those 2 views are me. I think I only viewed my video once to check if the link was right. I only have some one uptick on the graph that says 1 unique view.

>>53840622
Any stats on how long they view peoples auditions for and the ones that got to the interview stage? Ive heard they actually keep the one month to contact promise. Then I’ve heard messed up shit like they only viewed 3 seconds of anon video or 7 or so. I wonder if the ones that got accepted they got all their videos viewed or it’s the same random 7 or 30 seconds to tell if they are gonna make it.

>>53840647
Yeah I understand what you mean. I am just excited since this is my first audition entry. I don’t know what kind of people gets an interview and I’d like to try again after a few months but that’s too long for me bros

>> No.53841095

>>53840647
yup

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>>53808335

>> No.53841356

>>53841008
Nigger stop worrying about this useless shit.
You'll know if you made it when you receive the email.
Go do something else with your time.

>> No.53842234

>>53841008
All I have is what people have said here over the last year+. It's rarely more than a couple views, usually people don't get more than 10 seconds.of views, most I have heard is a few minutes, never the whole thing. That's why people think they just download the videos. Take it all with a grain of salt though. Just random postings from anons over the years.

>> No.53843667

Its probably ideal for the company to filter out people who view watch like this.

>> No.53844261

I want my existence to be witnessed but I hate everyone, especially (You), you know what you've done

>>53837273
Those mouthbreathing retards can't help me, the best they can do is lobotomize me with drugs

>> No.53844352

>>53844261
>the best they can do is lobotomize me with dru
Does that mean you'd post less?

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Morning guys!
Not going to ask some humble brag question like, what're you working on to improve your content?

How's it going? Anything fun happening today?

>> No.53844548

>>53844493
Got into the closed beta program of a game I'm moderately excited for and you're actually allowed to stream it

>> No.53845182

>>53844352
I know a couple schizos who gave in to the pharma jew and it did not stop them from being attention whores
They did start preaching, as if they were better than the rest

>> No.53845272

>>53845182
You sound insufferable

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I Digby do confess that I have never played the Minecraft block game.
Today this is to be rectified by playing it. For the very first time.
I expect to be awful.

https://www.twitch.tv/digbycat

>> No.53845983

>>53845397
Playing alone? You should hit up, what's her name, she used to be called Reverie but now she's a fox and I forgot her new name... anyway she runs a minecraft server and will probably let you in if you make pleading cat eyes
Playing with other vtubers is fun and you get to know new names

>> No.53846326

>>53845983
Its fun that you can tell people here dont watch streams by how they post.

>> No.53846897

>>53846326
Vtuber thread, the viewer thread is two blocks down the catalog
I only watch the bare minimum so they feel like I'm a friend or part of their clique, you know, pop in for 5 minutes when they go live

>> No.53846971

>>53846897
No wonder your streams are so awful

>> No.53847781

>>53845397
mic left louder than right

>> No.53847853

>>53846897
What is market research

>> No.53848169

>>53834780
itd help to drop your link first so I’ll know whether or not you’re worth listening to

>> No.53848213

>>53847853
You should be market researching successful chuubas, not fellow 1view shitters.

>> No.53848236

>>53848169
You know who they are by the complaining.

>> No.53849428
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53849428

>>53811372
The jacket is fine, just too many folds. Have some confidence!
If you want the eye under the hair being visible, just copy the entire eye layers on top of the hair and lowert the opacity to your liking.
Also, I personally wouldn't really make the head smaller. Looked goofy when I tried.
However, you can try making the eyes smaller if you want, I did it on the right version here.

>> No.53849499

>>53846971
My streams are boring because you're not collabing with me </3

>> No.53849578

>>53811372
does this chuuba have a name yet

>> No.53849597

>>53849499
Sorry I dont collab with 1view shitters

>> No.53849688

>>53849578
flavoroftheweek_ch

>> No.53849726

>>53844261
what's wrong anon?

>> No.53849924

>>53849726
That you're giving him attention.

>> No.53850265

>>53811372
very plappable. Will gladly unicorn for you

>> No.53850797

How do YOU get more chat engagement?

>> No.53851215

>>53850797
be funny, ask questions

>> No.53851368

>>53850797
try to act dumb when playing games and wait for your viewers to correct you so you can start interacting with them

>> No.53851485

>>53850797
Do YOU deserve more chat engagement?!

>> No.53851676

>>53850797
Intentionally misplay cards in tcgs

>> No.53854733

>>53850797
I beat people in fighting games.

>> No.53855335
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53855335

Anyone have experience with these Mya Asset guys? I've been messaged by one of there people for months now and I'm not really buying it.

>> No.53855556
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53855556

Daiya doing his live2d debut

>> No.53855654

>>53855335
you can't be serious

>> No.53855743

>>53855654
Yeah. Just a touch of the 'tism.

>> No.53855838

>>53855556
https://www.twitch.tv/daiyadiamandis

>> No.53857158
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53857158

Hi hi again everywan! Your special Haru stream for today, baked with love and care is Amnesia: The Bunker! The WW1 aesthetic seems really neat and I'm excited to check it out!
We'll start in about 15 minutes!
https://www.twitch.tv/harumizukich

>> No.53857346

>>53855838
>Says he likes dogs
Don't say it don't say it don't say it don't say it

>> No.53857809

>>53857346
>you just know

>> No.53858727

>>53855556
he looks more gay than before, at least before I could just ignore his png but now I'm getting distracted by him and I don't like it

>> No.53858812
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53858812

Getting reps in on making schedules
Should probably make and post the next one over the weekend

>> No.53858950
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53858950

>>53850797
I explain hypertrophy training and use of force laws.
Also, point redeem jump scares

>> No.53860130
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53860130

We going and meetin' up, bros?

>> No.53860358

>>53841351
seggs?

>> No.53860428

>>53827566
https://vocaroo.com/1oAxOz7onRxc

>> No.53861442

>>53860428
could you possibly turn the bass slider up any further on that mic bro
you have a regular nerd voice EQed to beyond absurd cartoonish levels

>> No.53861542

>>53860428
the fucking wet mouth sounds AAAAAAA GOD STOP AAAAAAAA

>> No.53861664

https://www.twitch.tv/dantedaedalusch
SF6 grind day. Probably an open lobby.

>> No.53861855

>>53861442
>>53861542
https://vocaroo.com/1mwEeKrMfpO1

>> No.53863880

>>53860130
Sounds like a fun idea but Vegas is a hive of scum and villainy

>> No.53864031

>>53863880
But you can finally get groomed by your streamer...

>> No.53866263

>>53808335
kek

>> No.53866539

What do you do when normies wander into your chat and try to traumadump/are just generally weird?

>> No.53866613

>>53866539
ban them?

>> No.53866695

Has any /asp/ie stagnated as hard as kaiser has?

>> No.53866912

>>53866539
>hey man that sounds rough. hope you start feeling better
then ignore

>> No.53868783
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53868783

ACCORDION TIME (and then doom afterwards)

https://www.twitch.tv/gclefcannon

>> No.53871563

>>53866695
There are plenty that never got past 2 average ccv.

>> No.53873364

>>53866695
honestly i don't even know what he's trying to do, he's neither funny nor entertaining and the worst part is he's still here shitting up this thread

>> No.53875377

>>53851676
you deserve to get exodia on the boated

>> No.53875585

>>53868783
are accprxians expensive/ hard to maintain? they look like they would be both

>> No.53876397

>>53875585
depends where you live, they are cheaper and easier to get maintenance in europe i believe, in the USA they are both expensive and its hard to find people to do maintenance or repair them. in terms of user maintenance, they are delicate but don't really require any maintenance per se

>>53868783
also accordions weigh a lot and i ran out of songs so i'm just playing guitar now, if anyone specifically did not want to hear accordion

>> No.53877210
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53877210

I've played enough Earthbound-inspired games. Now I'm just playing Earthbound.
https://www.twitch.tv/SlushyWater52

>> No.53877498

>>53877210
Sorry, why a slushee??

>> No.53880968

>>53877498
Prolly because they taste good and have a very fun aesthetic. Friend just needs to refine his design

>> No.53881012

>>53866695
me...

>> No.53881049

>>53876397
Thanks for the response! noticed I butchered that spelling lol, the price I pay for no auto correct

>> No.53881166

>>53837273
i have a psychiatrist, she's really great. vtubing is fun too

>> No.53881248

>>53844493
lots of stuff. going to be drawing you soon too.

>> No.53881600

i am a soft sleepy boy how do i vtube effectively

>> No.53881814

>>53881600
Channel that sofy boi energy, there's a growing market for soft boi content.

>> No.53881859

>>53881814
any good examples?
i feel like i wont live up to peoples expectations

>> No.53881999
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53881999

>>53881248
Thank you so much!
Honestly being able to grow a community of people that want to hang out and chill with me was always my primary goal with this.
I love any fanart I get, it's touching someone spent time to make it for me.

>> No.53882104

How much do people even pay attention to the game that's being played? Sometimes I look at streams of more detailed games like Elona and you can't even make out the onscreen text all that clearly

>> No.53882460

>>53881859
Haru, Beryl

>> No.53882744
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53882744

>>53857158
Thank you as always to any and all awoomfies who came in! This one is fun but the monster AI is a little frustrating at times... We'll get it next time! Sorry for the shrieks of terror!

>> No.53884274

At this point I'm like 10 years into the whole "Streaming" thing and I've never Made It™

Any /asp/ies have tips on getting hired as staff/management for a group/individual? I've been a literal manager irl in real life.

>> No.53884661

>>53884274
You can apply?
If you've actually been streaming for 10 years, and you have some sort of managerial experience - I'm sure there are Corpos that will hire you.

The problem is that I would imagine most people working at Corpos are making dirt poor money - it's a passion job like working for the Red Cross/Teaching.

>> No.53884692

>>53884274
Just join the visage cord and start grooming people.

>> No.53884787

>>53882104
You listen to the commentary of someone who’s talking about the game or you’re a hyperautist that knows what’s going on, the only people that come to “watch” that game are pre-existing viewers or people that already know what’s going on and don’t need explaining. Most streamers know they won’t grow for extremely niche content like Elona and just play it to enjoy it

>> No.53885300

>Should be working on my model
>Too busy jacking off to my male /asp/ oshi
Sigh.

>> No.53885342

>>53885300
Namedrop him.

>> No.53885662

>>53885300
You sound exactly like me

>> No.53886118

New to this general. Seen enough autism to start up a ‘Tism Horton’s. Plenty of circle jerking, too. But not much about demonstrable metrics. Can an autist help a noob out and lay out some metrics I should achieve prior to trying for a corpo? Like viewers, number of videos, length of streaming period, engagement, channel views, subscribers, etc.? How much of that shit is enough to be taken seriously by a big corpo?

>> No.53886317

>>53886118
Speaking of autism...

>> No.53886591

>>53877498
Just saw this. I chose it bc I wanted something unique that I hadn't seen but also bc I was making my own VRoid model off crappy YT tutorials and wanted something simple enough to make by myself. Honestly, I don't even drink that many slushies.

>> No.53886628

>>53886118
Basing off some Holo talent, at least one of which is an /asp/ie:

Within one year hit 15-20k followers on twitch with average viewership about 150+/-

>> No.53886957

>>53886628
Thanks anon. An actual benchmark.

>> No.53887024

>>53884274
As an irl corpo manager myself, the last thing I want is to be a virtual manager. Haven't you had enough of leading projects, getting grilled by clients, and arguing contract clauses and stuff? Are you sure you want all of that to happen again in your hobby

>> No.53887215

>>53887024
Yeah, sure, but I'd get to work remote.

I'd also have the opportunity to build business contacts.

>> No.53887577

>>53877210
My man, you keep posting this render and it's goddamn painful to look at. If you're willing to share your vrm file I could put something together for you

>> No.53887842

I want to start making VRC streams, are there any aspies that make models for it?

>> No.53888932

>>53886118
faggot

>> No.53889055
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53889055

>tfw find few voice change fitting to my voice
Well guess I will treat that as transition until I finally get the male model

>> No.53889352

>feeling pretty menhera
>all the friends i'd usually chat up to ignore it are busy or asleep

haha, this sucks

>> No.53889759

>>53889352
Are they really your friends if they can't set time aside to help you when you're down?

>> No.53889820

>>53889759
i'm not telling them i'm down, and i don't want them to stop whatever they are doing to chat with me just because i'm experiencing the grumpy dumpies

>> No.53890100
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53890100

>>53839328
Kinda like that. Mix of that with Tsoog.
>>53828841
>>53829274
>>53830600
>>53822165
Thanks! The alternate universe is very weird.
>>53825103
That's what I was going for anyways.
>>53820052
I'm aware that the topics and themes I'm going for is very very niche.
Luckily I won't be a streamer chuuba so I don't have to worry about churning out content daily.

>> No.53891004

>>53887577
Yeah I dont actually know much about what to do with Vroids. If you wanna throw something together I'd totally use it, but max file size on here is 4MB and the VRM file is over 17Mb

>> No.53891293
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53891293

>>53891004
To be honest it's extremely limited what you can do with vroids. That's why so many people just default to hoodies with maybe some texturing. Your best bet is looking around booth for stuff other people have made. Technically, if you're artistically inclined you can make some pretty neat stuff. Pic related for example looks pretty unique as far as vroids go. But if you have that much artistic talent, at that point there's no reason for you to stick to vroids when you can be making pngs or even live2d.

It's a pretty funny paradox, good artists can make good vroids, but good artists have no reason to use vroids so all the vroids you ever see are bad.

>> No.53891587

>>53891293
Im fine with my model, I was just wondering what I could do better bc that dude was saying the picture I was using in my announcements was bad. I don't have any real art of my character so I was posting that.

>> No.53891611

>>53891587
*what I could do better with the picture/render I posted

>> No.53891689

>>53890100
You got a chuuba model already?

>> No.53891732
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53891732

>>53891587
>stick anime background in obs
>position your vroid on top of it
>take screenshot

>> No.53891770

>>53891732
Should I try to find something that fits the slushy theme or just use that?

>> No.53892006

>>53891770
I dunno. Maybe try looking for an anime 7-Eleven or another convenience store. Or if you're feeling zesty just use a real life picture of a 7-Eleven.

>> No.53892559 [SPOILER] 
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53892559

>>53891689
Not yet. Im still sketching her design sheet.
Apologies for the mess.

>> No.53892894

Which /asp/ie has the best chance of going corpo? Which one has the best corpo feel?

>> No.53892967

>>53892559
Alex Jones lookin ass.

>> No.53893646

>>53892894
I want to see a femboy like Haru or Beryl make it

>> No.53894073

>>53893646
Femboys are an abomination.

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53894207

>>53894073
lol ok

>> No.53894220

>>53893646
Femboys are cute

>> No.53894243

>>53893646
How are they even appealing? What's worth watching about them?

>> No.53894279

>>53881999
Kankuro is into BDSM huh

>> No.53894281

>>53894243
Cute and funny

>> No.53894351

>>53894281
So nothing, then.

>> No.53895587

>>53894281
Uoooohhh!! Willy!!!

>> No.53895867

>>53894281
False advertising

>> No.53896395

>>53855556
I don't know why more of you guys don't throw your money at a live2d model. For all the effort you do networking and marketing yourselves and planning your content and all that shit, literally the easiest, though admittedly not the cheapest, thing you could do is commission a live2d model. Some of you have probably clocked in over 1000 hours of streaming, but you're still skittish about paying for a live2d model, like it's 1000 hours later and you're still on the fence about the whole vtubing thing.

>> No.53896746

>>53896395
Most aspies still stuck with PNGs/Vroids live in third world countries, a Live2D could be easily 2 or 3 months of salary for them

>> No.53897011

Digby Live2D catboy model when?

>> No.53897100

>>53896395
people act like L2D is the be-all, end-all of vtubing and like PNGs or 3D models are entirely a stopgap measure and I've never understood that. This is a creative medium, it's like trying to pigeonhole vtubers into being nothing more than wannabe idols and complaining when someone finds success doing their own thing instead.

>> No.53897240

3d looks way better than live2d

>> No.53897299

>>53896395
I wanna get one but I'm on the fence about what temporary one to pick up until I can hopefully grab a model from Omochi if he ever opens back up.

>> No.53897394

>>53897240
Agreed. I really like some live2d models but the movements look horrible most of the time.

>> No.53897434

>>53897100
>when someone finds success doing their own thing instead.
Only Filian has found success doing her own thing. That's it. Literally just her. No pngtubers or vroids have ever found success.

>> No.53897525

>>53897100
3D has more capabilities by a long shot but the potential can only be used if both the streamer and the artist have the knowledge to utilise it. Even with good 3D artists, if the streamer isn't using it for interactive 3D stuff and adding environments to accomodate their model it's basically a glorified 2D model. I'm glad that there's more options these days for 3D chuubas but you still need to be willing to learn blender / unity even as a streamer to fully use the tools available

>> No.53897758

>>53897434
true and even she got a lot of help from Mizkif and Esfand

>> No.53898384

How are people supposed to find your stream on youtube? I don't even know how to find new streamers and I'm supposed to be the vtuber

>> No.53898557

>>53898384
youtube isn't a streaming platform

>> No.53898598

>>53898384
why do you think everyone that isn't in a corpo moved to twitch

>> No.53898889

>>53898557
I thought twitch was bad by not allowing double tag searches but this is insane, I can't even filter by language

>> No.53898893

>>53898384
You listened to the retard about streaming on youtube huh

>> No.53899644

>>53898893
I saw that Laran did the switch so I wanted to keep my mind open and see what's up
No wonder she gets random brasilians in her chat

>> No.53902134

>>53891587
That dude here. I'd rather do things myself than to tell other people what to do so that's why I offered to do it, but if you want the short of it:
The weight of your outline is fucked, probably a resolution issue but sometimes you need to fine-tune it for the render. Camera angle couldn't be more boring. Lightning is flat and unmotivated. And yeah the background could be more fun like the other guy said, maybe something that fits your lore; personally I'd keep it 3D even if it's just basic shapes, but whatever works
Half decent promo art is pretty important I feel, many times it's the first impression you give of yourself

>> No.53902552

>>53891587
>>53902134
>The weight of your outline is fucked, probably a resolution issue
That might be because he took a screenshot of Unity instead of making a render, at least take a screenshot in vseeface so you can have a transparent background and it looks the same way as it does on your streams
There are ways to transfer poses to vseeface, have a random tutorial or look it up
https://youtu.be/veDIyyy7GVw

>> No.53904060

Anyone else using the new Streamelements beta alerts and just have them die on you recently?

>> No.53906003

>>53896395
live 2d is Ugly simple as
>>53897100
Because Live 2d has the least amount of User input after the rigging is done. Literally women fresh out of college become live 2d corpos, the most unskilled and least talented demographic there is.

>> No.53907474

>>53906003
If I wanted to watch a png I'd browse Danbooru

>> No.53907639

The vtuber model is just to hook viewers and give them something to relate to when you talk

>> No.53908443

>>53907639
I've seen a few pngs with nice looking animation and functionality. Auxillia and to a degree Albert are that way. Aux makes his work by having what looks like a decently tuned loop and length confined to a codec frame so there's at least some suspension of disbelief that I'm watching anime. A bouncing vedotube should be something you move away from when possible to anything else.

>> No.53908601

>>53908443
Good animated png is better than live2d, especially if stylized

>> No.53908882

>>53908601
If you want people to take you seriously try making a point instead of restating your opinion.

>> No.53909394

I WILL DO!!!!! I WILL PRESS GO LIVE TODAY!!! OR TOMORROW AT LIKE 1AM BUT WHO CARES ABOUT DETAILS REALLY!!!!!

>> No.53909434

>>53908601
Shut the fuck up cab you insufferable faggot.
Not our problem you sank 5k on a 3d set and now regret it.

>> No.53910071

>>53908882
I'm someone else..?

>>53909434
Meds? I didn't say 3D

>> No.53910919

Hi I'll be playing PIkmin one tonight :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHypbffzxEo

>> No.53911000

>>53910919
>ancient retired hooker model
>zoomer voice

>> No.53911055

>>53910919
pafu more like plap u

>> No.53911120

>>53909394
Gambatte

>> No.53911216

>>53911000
I enjoy invoking cognitive dissonance
>>53911055
!!

>> No.53911677

need shut-in gf

>> No.53911935

>>53911216
she's so thirsty she'd give coco a run for her money

>> No.53912098

>>53909434
a 3d set is now 800 dollars with a mocopi and quest

>> No.53912210

>>53912098
Don't forget the shit booth assets!!!

>> No.53912786

>>53912098
mocopi is garbage, please don't buy it.

>> No.53912843
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53912843

/asp/!
Tonight we stream.
Tonights game was chosen by a coin toss, the fates have decreed it shall be a night of Zombie Army 4: Dead War. The vastly superior spinoff to the Sniper Elite series
The lobby will also be open if anyone has the game and wants to join in


https://www.twitch.tv/digbycat

>> No.53912849

>Slip away into the kitchen after another 20 hours on Coco's milking table
>Contemplate another escape attempt
>Decide against it; bitch outran me in heels, it ain't in the cards
>Down a bottle of water to make sure that I don't die of dehydration like the last guy
>Suddenly gripped by a hankering for a bowl of cereal
>Check the fridge
>No milk
>One good milking session deserves another
>"""""Force""""" Coco into the succudemon milking apparatus that has conveniently appeared in place of the milking table
>Consider plapping her while she's all strapped in
>Regrettably, ALMIGHTY NUT is still on cooldown
>Shrug, take a seat and partake of a bowl of cereal and warm milk while Coco makes a bunch of Coco noises

>> No.53913477

>>53912786
>Literally used by the biggest vtuber agency in the world for brand partnership
>But it will NEVER get any better guys

Retard, just use moslime or wait for better official software

>> No.53914077

>>53913477
I own them and right now they are barely usable. If you trust Sony to improve the software good on you, I hope so too. But right now I wouldn't recommend them to anyone because with a proper setup even webcam tracking beats it these days.

>> No.53915059

>>53914077
Skill issue

>> No.53916480

>>53844493
I bought a gym tank top that says PERSONALITY on the back in Arial font

>> No.53916592

>>53907639
You say this like hooking in viewers isn’t a big factor in being a successful streamer. I mean yeah a good model isn’t going to be the single factor that carries a streamer to the top, but trying to hand wave its importance is just intellectually dishonest.

>> No.53916967

>>53912849
added to the folder ily babe xo

>> No.53917361
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53917361

Fun fact: Early 2000s PUA techniques is very effective when you use it to get new viewers.

>> No.53917384
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53917384

>>53917361
such as?

>> No.53917793

>>53917384
Negging. Call everyone in your chat stupid retards and they will love you and follow you to the ends of the earth.

>> No.53918199

>>53908601
Cope

>> No.53918266

>>53908601
Good [anything] is better than mediocre [anything].

>> No.53919422

>>53918266
Good dick is better than mediocre vagina.

>> No.53919476

>>53919422
Yes?

>> No.53919686

Aspies you wish streamed more?

>> No.53919802

>>53919422
no homo

>> No.53919984

>>53919686
Myself

>> No.53920057

>>53919686
Maple

>> No.53920094

>>53916967
And just like that, I'm immortal

>> No.53920467

>>53920094
sorry i deleted the folder

>> No.53920667

>>53919686
Mocca

>> No.53920841

die endlösung

>> No.53920865

>>53920467
And just like that, it's like I was never here

>> No.53920935

>>53920467
D: if ur gonna skinwalk b nice c:

>> No.53920991

>>53920935
alright sorry i restored the folder and favorited the file

>> No.53921162

>>53920991
<3 ty! c:
sometime i unironic am gonna like put out a model of my voice for people to skinwalk me even better because i think its funny lmoa
if anyone has recs on like how to, lmk i will

>> No.53921232

>>53920991
WE'RE SO BACK
Thank you, Skinwalker-sama!

>> No.53921355

>>53921162
The other day I have the shower thought that AI music covers are getting so good that it would probably sound better than if I sang it myself, if I used a model of my voice

>> No.53921404

>>53920667
I love mocca

>> No.53921777

>>53921355
Unless you're a really good singer, I think that's much more likely than not. Those models tend to create good singing with the target's voice and tics, regardless of the original's "skill level".
Gura sang Cupid herself and honestly the AI version is better, though obviously she could do better with a proper recording instead of a karaoke.

>> No.53923222

Page 10 lol

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>> No.53924549

I'll move soon to where there are less frogs surrounding me (hopefully) so I might be able to stream literally whenever I want without worrying about it and without raging at nature and wanting to burn it all down in a fit of rage. I wanna get into vtubing but what has consistently held me back is hunting down artists and riggers on twitter or other websites, it seems like a real chore. How was your experience doing this? was it relatively easy or was it a huge slog?

>> No.53924695

>>53924549
Ribbit ribbit my frigga

>> No.53924720

>>53924549
be prepared to message dozens and dozens of people to get maybe 1 reply
artists are mentally ill

>> No.53924744

New thread when

>> No.53924763

>>53924549
I know what you mean, I just want to leave this shithole called france, fucking frogs

>> No.53924937

>>53920057
He's never coming back. Let it go.

>> No.53925053

>>53924549
Similar situation except I just learned how to make my own shit while waiting for other things in my life

>> No.53925483

>>53924549
fuck you frogs are based

>> No.53925536

>>53924744
this time with a proper subject please, and if possible no haru in the OP

>> No.53925618

>>53925536
Haru is cute and nice but maybe no Haru OPs for a while

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