/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>53779642
Well since they need time to remove vesper and magni from the merch, not the end in the strict sence of it, but clearly the very start of the whole thing crumbling down. Tempus won't see the new year sun.

Sounds like they’re just waiting for the other two to be able to stream again. Cover is pretty biased towards Tempus.

>>53780091
>to be able to stream again
what happened?

>>53779942
Nice cope.
They're not going anywhere.

>>53780169
They got suspended

>>53779642
>>53779942
They will return soon collab with Kronii again

>>53779642
>Mandatory "break" right after 2.0 model
>Whatever the issue, it is apparently so serious they have to put off the anniversary rather than let them stream again
IF they manage to come back from this the leash is going to be so tight they will be miserable. Cover doesn't miss out on anniversary merch drops and new model buff because of a nothingburger.

>>53780200
so what happened?

>>53780218
Probably something with Kronii?
Maybe Vesper raiding Kiara? Maybe Vesper being a crazy menherra?

Tempus3 is coming on faster than expected so they're delaying to do a debut + anniversary at the same time.

>>53780320
Definitely the third one. He's probably too much of a lose cannon that Cover barely trusts. Magni just probably got roped up into Vesper's bullshit because he wanted to stand up for him as friends.
I dont see Magni really coming back, he seems active on his roommate account.

>>53779642
Probably coming back. But hopefully they'll be gone. Their fans are insufferable.

>>53780353
You think Tempus 3 will beat EN3?
Has it really been a full year?
Time flies. But still the 2nd batch has.only been around for a few months right?

>>53780189
Well yeah. The other 6 are not going anywhere

>>53780218
>pretended to be Gura to get Free factorio codes
>told his manager to fuck off
>is Laplus' boyfriend and keeps inviting her to Valorant games when she's supposed to stream
>wore a sheet over his head and pretended to be a ghost to scare the shit out of Chloe
>sells Mori her Xanax, lean, alcohol and fastfood
>hacked Rushia's discord during the GTA collab with Miko
>is the Japanese drama tuber that Rushia contacted and lied about her leaking confidential information
>hacked Towa's discord and was the male voice on her stream
>opened the door behind Matsuri and accidentally showed his hand onstream
>is the host that blackmailed Matsuri
>was Mel's manager and sexually harassed her
>fingerbanged Ollie onstream
>set fire to Subaru's house
>orchestrated the trash taste collab
>Connor and Veibae's statements about hololive were written by him
>is the reason for Nene, Laplus and Shion's depressions
>photoshopped Luna out of the holofes poster when nobody was looking
>spoke perfect Cantonese and perfectly impersonated Bae's mother onstream
>keeps spiking Ame's food with bread
>convinced Pekora to buy a monkey
>dug the hole in minecraft
>injected Ina with the vax and gave her heart disease
>broke Luna's neck during the VR horror stream
>ripped a fat shart during Mori's stream
>gave Kronii books about woke gender shit during her childhood
>built Bae's cuckshed
>damaged Suisei and Marine's voices
>is the reason why Aqua, Shion and Ayame barely stream
>sent anti messages to Iofi after the among us collab
>made kobo eat literal shit
>traced Nene's drawing
>forces cover to sell acrylic stands
>drugged Mori right before meme review
>gave Mio food poisoning and made her puke onstream multiple times
>runs the Argentinian central bank and is responsible for ARS superchats
>intercepted Flare, Nene and Irys' initial designs and replaced them with designs he made
>coded the YouTube analytics page to list Taiwan
>is the shadow president of Taiwan
>simultaneously runs the Chinese anti botfarms
>managed HoloCN and is responsible for every bad decision they made causing the entire branch to get fired, including watching wolf warrior onstream
>ordered Russia to invade Ukraine so Russian fans couldn't donate to Botan any longer
>Killed Fauna's cat, Noel's hamster, Sana's dog and Roboco's cat
>told Mori's sister about the airBNB and suggested the "rager"
>fed boner pills to every dude at the houseparty and told them where Gura was hiding, told Mori she was up to "shenanigans"
>added himself as a friend on Gura and Irys' switch accounts
>is singlehandedly responsible for every orange woman bad post, ran the eggcord
>convinced Miko that Pekora would totally enjoy it if she initiated sex with her out of nowhere without asking during their sleepover
>is the CEO of Capcom and caused the holocaust by deciding to copyright strike Mio for playing some decade old DS game, requiring permissions for games ever since (also caused the real holocaust)
>planted the Reine dox pictures in Ollie's image folder
>infected Kanata with her ear disease
>got Choco and Kiara shadowbanned
>told Susan to crack down on lewd content
>tweeted out all the anti tweets that made Huke cancel the Kiara minecraft collab
>Fired Shinove
>Forced Kira, Suzaku and Kaoru to graduate
>Hired Hitomi Chris
>gave Hitom Chris her equipment in return for sexual favors
>Graduated Hitomi Chris
>is Aloe's father
>leaked Aloe's private stream
>pretended to be Nijisanji fans and anti'd her until she graduated
>convinced Ame, Kronii and Ina to Collab with tempus, still trying to convince the rest of EN/JP
>hired Tempus
>hired Mori
>raped every single member of Hololive in front of Yagoo while doing lines of coke off his dick and suckerpunching Sora

>>53780888
not really anywhere but down down down

>>53780169
Before the tweet announcing the hold on activities vesper missed two streams and tweeted that he had lost access to his google account. If it was cover that changed the passwords on him in the run up to an as of yet unannounced suspension he wasn't aware of the incoming bonk. If it wasn't cover then perhaps, just maybe, losing access to the account was a big problem. The question then is why is magni also involved, unless it was something that happened at AX that involved both of them?

Good riddance

>>53779642
Why should they come back?

>>53780947
If his googled account got locked he probably couldn't tweet.
Which other Holos were at AX? Who did the harrase/interact with there.

>postponed
Obviously coming back, otherwise they would just do it without them

At this point it seems like a stealth suspension they want to sweep under the rug to "prevent Tempiss hate"

>merch announced for the 21st
>it includes Magni and Vesper
Rrat sisters I don't feel so good...

>>53781798
Chudcels lost again.

>>53779642
At this point I'm genuinely curious what the fuck is happening.
If they're suspensions why be so vague?
If they're not suspensions what could explain the vagueness?

>>53781798
they want to sell the already produced merch before they get fired.

>>53781798
Anon... Axel literally said on stream that the merch is being delayed...

>>53782366
Axel said merch is being delayed and they don't know the reason (doubt) but checking /MANS/ I see this collab is going ahead so anon was not lying. Still unclear why anni and official merch is delayed but this is going ahead.
https://twitter.com/ohmonah/status/1681687592583176193?s=46&t=tHqZdRMxGHYLfeVraY1uww

>>53782481
Because that's a collab, not cover's merch.

>>53782303
They saw the pushback over Vesper's first suspension, they see the pushback over tempus gen 2, even reddit turned on the homos and they had to lock the sub. They don't want to give the fans anymore ammo against tempus. They really tried to get the Niji fujobux and it blew up in their faces

>>53780897

>>53779642
Vesper shot/injured Magni by accident with a spear or harpoon or whatever. Now Vesper is having legal issues and Magni still in coma or something. Fingers crossed its some bs like this

>>53782303
>if they're suspensions why be so vague?
If it is a suspension, then I'm guessing the two are only under suspicion of doing something wrong and are currently undergoing an investigation period. Cover probably doesn't want to call it a suspension until they're sure that whatever happened was actually the boys' fault.

>>53779642
Off collab with HoloEN girls soon

>>53784369
That sounds like a reasonable possibility Would fit Cover's MO of buying time when they don't know what to do, too.

A stealth suspension is a suspension that is disguised as a voluntary break, usually with the talent themselves tweeting some shitty excuse having to go visit their grandma or whatever. That's not what this is, they've made no attempts to dress up situation like it's fine and dandy. Instead they're just being ominously vague.

tldr about this shit? i dont come to this place as often anymore
not like i watch homos either tbf

>>53784811
Yeah, even if it is actually a suspension it's still a whole different beast than Niji style "vacations".
There is no attempt at deception here, just a completely lack of any real information other than "they gone".

>>53784811
Any suspension not announced as being a suspension is a stealth suspension, just accept already that cover is just another black company and move on

>>53784894
tl;dr anniversary postponed because two members are suspended

>>53779642
I hope it's the beginning of the end.

>>53784369
I'm not sure about that. Cover announced an investigation for Rushia using both the JP and EN twitter accounts 3 days into Rushia's break. The only thing this situation has in common with Rushia's is that Magni and Vesper stopped activity for a couple days before an official announcement was made.

>>53782303
If it's not a suspension, I guess whatever bad thing happened involved the boys' personal information getting leaked and they have to stop activities because they need to recall and scrub anything that could have possibly caused the leak. Also, if this info leak theory is somehow correct, I'd assume the boys have already been on the receiving end of some very nasty pranks (like scam calls, death threats, or a dozen pizzas that you didn't order getting delivered to your house).

Even losing one faggot is enough to sink Tempus. Their original brohood will be completely broken and unrecoverable. The 2 that aren't on haitus aren't able to carry the group on their backs. Gen2 doesn't exist outside of the clown who will follow Fagni.

Is there any actual source to Magni getting surgery or is that just rrat

>>53786008
Sisters cope.
It's kinda funny how tempsisters want them to have some medical problems, while their antis want them to be healthy

>>53786008
thats possibly real, he mentioned getting minor surgery for his gross toe thing on stream

>>53786357
Why would a toe surgery get in the way of his streaming job.

>>53782303
Theyre either being investigated for wrongdoing but not convicted of anything by cover yet, or something has happened to their personal life. The latter would be kinda weird since its both of them at the same time but if they were together at AX something could have happened ig

>>53786008
His roommate (as in literal roommate) talked about it on his stream. Said it was happening next week and that was a week ago.

>>53780947
if account access was the issue, regina and the other one wouldn't be as secretive about the whole thing

>>53779642
>Is this the end of Tempus?
The likelihood of Vesper and Magni getting fired is 99.999%. I'd like to believe this will somehow lead to all of Tempus getting fired and the entire branch being terminated but it probably won't.

>>53786559
i dont think thats the reason for the time off lmao just that he had one

>>53786695
Vesper got stabbed (again) at AX and the other one is a material witness.

>>53787570
Eh, they'll turn up. tempus are like roaches.

>>53787934
Maybe not anymore, Omega was clearly fired for some reason, and the timing is just too perfect to not be relevant.

>>53779642
so that's why gura was so happy these past days

>>53779642
It can't be over. Regardless of what he did, even if he raped one of the members of hololive, owning the incels comes above all else

Magni is Professor Lando right?

>>53780091
I don't know why they are so obsessed with making it work. Nobody wants it and they just keep forcing it. It's like they believe if they just market hard enough people will love them

>>53788154
Maybe he is maybe he isn’t. What’s it to ya? Now if I were you I definitely wouldn’t pull up any clips of that guy and Magni and listen to their voices.

>>53788196
Luxiem lives in their heads rent-free despite how hard they fell off.

>>53788154
ya

>>53788196
EN management hates idol culture, hates cute girls doing cute things(which by extension means they hate Hololive), and wants to pwn the unicorns so they're using men as a weapon to tear it all down. That's the only way I can make sense of Tempus.

I find it VERY hard to believe Magni would get suspended for something
Vesper? Sure, but I imagine one was enough to scare him straight
Genuinely don't think they're suspended and think there's an issue with their google accounts being locked which is what's linked to everything, given what Vesper said days before
Also stop fucking telling everyone they're 'suspended' when there's literally no evidence of that because Cover arent a fucking rat company who do stealth suspensions, they outright say it

>>53788409
this and sunk cost fallacy

>>53788442
>Genuinely don't think they're suspended
All their activities have been suspended, Anon. It's the textbook definition of a suspension.

>>53788442
Maybe it's a ransom case with their accounts being compromised

>>53788196
HoloStars was Yagoo’s pet project in Japan, the moment he saw the EN branch do fine with Tempus Gen 1 he probably was ecstatic.
Which would’ve been fine on its own if the company didn’t rush out a second Stars Gen before Hololive EN3. Nevermind the problem being that we haven’t even gotten any hints towards EN3 for more than a year. The demand is obviously there and it doesn’t make any sense that Cover hasn’t made any progress towards it.

>>53780212
>it is apparently so serious
I dont watch them but something doesnt have to be serious for jap management to sperg out over it

>>53788442
>and think there's an issue with their google accounts being locked
it doesn't take 2 weeks to solve a google account lock problem

>>53788442
what other reason would there be to miss the first anniversary?

>>53788686
surgery
illness
family emergency

>>53788196
Yeah is't absolutely fucking insane. Even more considering that Magni and Vesper LITERALLY had a redesign before fucking off. And now they might even fuck up the anniversary and merch sales.
How the fuck do you even justify this crap? Especially when they are already underperforming like crazy compared to the girls.

>>53780897
I'm just impressed at this point, rep sage. every yab carefully chronicled...

>>53788771
For both of them at the same time?

>>53780897
>and suckerpunching Sora
gigs based.

>>53779642

>fags really think that they're not getting fired

>>53789100
No chance they're getting fired right around their 1st anniversary

>>53779942
this

>>53788442
It wouldn't take this long to fix locked google accounts, anon. Their inactivity has all the hallmarks of a suspension and the fact that it's both of them makes it all the more likely. Or they're on strike I guess.

>>53785872
If something like that had happened it would've been mentioned here by now. Instead there's nothing. Not a peep. No hints. Zilch.

>>53789123

>>53780169
>>53780947
the 2 faggots molested a bunch of boys at AX and are getting fired for it. They won't be going to jail since pedophelia is legal for homosexuals in California

I thought they were en-route to termination and this was a stealth suspension, until they decided to postpone the anniversary.
At this point, the idea that they were doxx'd and threatened and they agreed to put a hold on activities until it can get sorted out with law enforcement is very possible. It explains a lot, including why they didn't say it was a suspension, why The Cause would say nothing about it, and why they're postponing the anniversary instead of just having it without the two MIA.

>>53780897
>(also caused the real holocaust)
how did he do this when the holocaust never happened?

>>53789653
why would postponing the anniversary, something that supports more the theory that they are both on their way out, make you think they were doxxed? and if they were doxxed, why is magni's rm still active as if nothing is going on?

>>53789123
Why do you think they are waiting??

>>53785872
>>53789653
Sounds like cope to me. "No it can't be a suspension, they're good bois who dindu nuffin, it must be instead *makes up elaborate mental gymnastic scenarios where it's everyone else's fault but them*".
Magni is active on his roommate, so "uuhh... no you see, the reason is uuh... they got doxxed and had to go into complete hiding! Yes, that's totally it!!!!" is a non-starter. I don't know what's more pathetic, that you're actually so dumb that you seriously believe this yourself, or that you expect the rest of us to be so dumb that we would believe this bullshit as well.

>>53789808
NTA Magni's rm has actually been uncharacteristically inactive in terms of streaming since he came back from AX.

>>53789778
>He doesn't know about the true holocaust of the aryans caused by the jews
retard

>>53789411
You're assuming everyone who hates Tempus automatically associates with this board. Also, anyone malicious enough to pull pranks on that magnitude would probably want to cover their tracks instead of outing themselves just to brag.

>>53780897
>sells mori onto her fastfood
Why even bother with streams at this point? He's cashing in harder than all homos together

Vesper and Magni are on strike because all of their streams are scripted and there's a writers strike happening in hollywood

>>53790355
I believe this

>>53779642
who knows. maybe it's related to their new models? that's the most recent thing they have in common.
.

>>53779942
I don't see how that's the case. With far more sudden changes to events they just removed the woman and kept going. It generated a few weird mishaps but they hardly matter.


To me this more reads like "vesper and magni fucked off into the forest and are officially missing" more than even contract infighting

>>53786008
Toe nail surgery, it gets done in a few hours, they give you only local anesthesia and you walk out of the clinic after the surgery, it doesn't prevent you from streaming for more than a day.

>>53788442
I wasn't aware a 'Google' issue prevents them from using Twitter.
Huh.

>>53780897
this is the best shitpost on /vt/ in years

>>53789808
If they were simply going to be terminated, you'd want the anniversary to happen first. An anniversary -2 members is sad, but an anniversary -2 members that have been confirmed terminated is way worse.
>>53790116
Look, I get you really want to believe that Gura got both of them fired and Omega unpersoned but I'm looking at this realistically here.

>>53789549
Please stay on FB with the rest of the lead poisoned boomers.

>>53791089
4chan would have daily the holocaust isn't real threads over a decade ago. We were always like this

>>53791031
>If they were simply going to be terminated, you'd want the anniversary to happen first
Not if there were some unforeseen circumstances that prevented that to happen and like many people have said before, you don't want anniversary merch for a wave with 2 members that you just kicked out.

>>53790116
>Look, I get you really want to believe that Gura got both of them fired and Omega unpersoned but I'm looking at this realistically here.
NTA but whether it has something to do with Gura or not is irrelevant and you're not really looking at this realistically when you're coming up with every unrealistic explanation possible for their inactivity.

>>53780897
>hired Mori
his worst crime

>>53791603
Meant for >>53791031

It's funny how vesper went from "I hate the homos but he seems like a pretty cool due" to the most hated tempus member

>>53791031
I have no investment in random equally stupid rrats like Gura being some shadowy puppemaster conducting a civil war behind the scenes of HoloEN. I just like to go by what's the most reasonable explanation based on observed evidence (which also makes Gura unlikely, as the observed evidence is she's simply lazy and just doesn't care about the homos). And seeing how it's observed that Magni and especially Vesper already had prior incidents and are menhera retards, the most probable explanation is that they did something stupid again and managed to fuck themselves over, all on their own, no need to imagine some nefarious outside cause to cope and deflect from them dindus.

>>53791795
don't raid kiara.

>>53791165
Alot of those were jokes, and the Nazis here usually "knew their shit" and just hated Jews but didn't latch onto insane boomer Facebook conspiracies. Seriously no one over 45 should be allowed to use the internet.

>>53791826
>"fuck it"
he knew it wasn't something he should do but still went with it

>>53791795
Yup
I remember the long streams of obscure PC games where he would go into detail. Then he got one whiff of that sweet sweet clock pussy and he couldn't handle it.

>>53791837
they weren't jokes.
>imagine being both jewish and a tempiss fan

>>53791826

>>53791928
what clock pussy does to a nigga

>>53791981
kiara talking, not her fans.

>>53792037
Not even one tick

>>53792097
Fact of the matter is she didn't mind the raid, and its not the first time shes interacted with Tempus.
Don't act like shes a saint.

>>53779642
As much as i hate the stars and wish for them all to go away Yagoo will die on his pet projects fucking hill long before anyone at cover corp disbands them for good

>>53791795
Some others have already posted good explanatory takes elsewhere. He seemed like a cool dude at first glance, a lot of people were taken in by his "old IT guy who takes no shit from anyone, omg he's just like me frfr" act, and his earlier harmless fuckups could even be memed into something "based". But over time, the fuckups didn't stop coming but only increased, making him look less like a based cool dude and more and more like a menhera pussy bitch, and no one likes to identify with a loser who breaks down into a melty because muh meds and shit. His "interesting zatsus" also got more boring over time and exposed him as a pathetic faker, and him going out of his way to "own muh haterinos" looked less and less gigachad based and more like he just has an inferiority complex chip on his shoulder and overcompensates for his insecurities.

>>53791928
Ah yes, obscure PC games like FTL, Project Zomboid and Outer Wilds.

>>53792393
Being the first holomem (that we know of at least) to be suspended for talking back to a manager was a massive red flag. Hilarious enough his new model seems to fit his new (real) personality much better

>>53792393
His zatsus were absolutely terrible and I am of the rare opinion that a brotuber is a possible concept that succeed. I jumped into one of his zatsus and he was saying
>I've seen some bad shit. Some mafia level shit you know? Some military bad shit.
And so I left, because who wants to listen to some tryhard edgelord?

>>53791917
>Vesper tried to shittalk KFP or something with Kiara after they got mad about his raid
>Kiara didn't want to and instead got weirded out by Vesper being pushy about getting her to agree with him and reported him for being a creep
>Management ask around the rest of the branch if he had been like that with them
>Gura's autism prevented her from saying anything until asked directly so she's happy to get it off her chest and feels less inclined feign distance to not be confronted
>Magni lied and defended his friend
>They're both suspended until management figures out what exactly do to them both
Real? Probably not but I'm riding this rrat 'til the end

>>53792209
that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that the fans are who turned on him and care about things like the raid. She doesn't control fan sentiment.

Vesper and Magni being stealth suspended is the only explanation that makes sense. The only thing that confuses me is why the hell would Cover do a stealth suspension after their biggest competitor got shit for doing that to their talents?

>>53788442
>there's an issue with their google accounts being locked

Their google accounts got locked by cover IT

>>53793115
Magni wouldn't but I could see Vesper doing some menhera shit with his official accounts if given the chance

>>53791795
Blame all the underaged /v/ tourists who only started watching Hololive because of the Miko GTA clip.
When they were first announced people were spamming threads in the catalog imagining their favorite ecelebs like Sseth and Sam Hyde making it in and turning every stream into a /pol/ shitpost. Even those who weren't as retarded still had some faith in Cover's scouting ability and expected at least a couple interesting big names.
Then you had the model reveals, Magni and Vesper's fucked up models made the situation even more surreal and comical, that's literally when the MAGGING started.
Then the fags debuted and turned out 3/4 of them were your average Nijimale turbofaggots. Vesper was the only one sounding like an actual straight white dude so people made him their Sseth replacement and spent more time writing fanfics about him being this turbo based chungus lord instead of watching streams. The dude was aware of it and tried playing into the skit but at some point the entire thing came crashing and burning.
Oh and the reason why I keep bringing up Sseth is because there is a massive overlap with HoloEN's audience and especially /here/ fags. Check out Gura's trombone champ chat during the jewish song. Yeah.

>>53791031
>If they were simply going to be terminated, you'd want the anniversary to happen first.
The Homo-cope is reaching levels that shouldn't even be possible. You wouldn't want employees you plan on terminating to be part of an anniversary stream at all.

WTF happened to Vesper and Magni?

>>53779642
Even if they didn't get fired, which I personally think they have been, it's worth it to keep talking about it just to see the sisters copes. They come up with such weird, obviously retarded shit any normal person would laugh at, but they say it seriously so it just comes off as hilarious. Not to mention it's obvious they're sweating over it at the same time.

>>53793198
This.
Past plans are currently being scraped to do a group collab with VG where they try their best to make a good situation out of 2 of 4 HQ being gone already.

>>53780947
yea irl Magni is a total fucking douchebag socialite weirdo with all the other twitch streamers. he probably fucked up and dragged Vesper with him

>>53793316
pregante

How are the homos fanbases anyways? They can't be anywhere near as toxic as the Luxiem sisters

>>53790650
they would have made their Twitter WITH their google accounts, that's how Cover works

>>53793316
They probably fucked up pretty badly one way or another

>>53788442
If it's technical difficulties, why didn't they just say so?

>>53793419
Cover sounds like a shit company to work for now. They were cool like 2 yrs ago none of this shit happened. NOW gura barely streams and all these fucking yabs. I think someone in Holomyth pissed off Gura actually.

"The end of Tempus" is four AIDS deaths and four multi-decade sentences for child rape.
Until then they'll just make Hololive less popular.

>>53792972
Doing an investigation or something before commiting to a decision, only way that makes sense

>>53793417
They don't let us make up obvious lies! It's horrible!

>>53793328
It's hilarious to see some of them concede that it's not good behind the scenes but it's not their fault. Instead, it's unicorns who somehow tracked them down and raped their buttholes or something.

>>53780897
He also broke Sana's back, dont forget to add that anon!

>>53793316
one gave the other mono after an intimate kiss

>>53793328
the stupidest one I've seen so far is someone saying, with a straight face, that vesper and magni were away because they were supporting the fucking actor/writer strike going on

>>53793508
But she mentioned Myth fondly last night

No you see it's totally logical that these two different people both got sick at the same time and both are unable to stream for the same duration

Genuine question for those who believe that they've been suspended/terminated, why has there been no announcement of said suspension/termination? It would be the first time cover has ever done this and they've never shied away from those kinds of announcements in the past.

>>53788442
Same security issue doesn't happen to two people at the SAME TIME.
Also Vesper was skipping some of his streams for 3 days before he skipped the Magni collab (which Magni said was happening just 2 days before : https://youtu.be/4Mtq8htcL80?t=877).).
Magni also said that he was planning a big Tempus-wide event for their first anniversary and taking a lead role in organizing it (https://youtu.be/4Mtq8htcL80?t=1654).).
There's also a couple more clues -
> the only members with stopped activity are the ones with a new model/remodel
> omega's existence was erased in the middle of this
Omega gave them favorable treatment (2.0 models not even a YEAR into their careers? When Irys had to wait 1.5 years for hers?), which would naturally not sit well with some of the girls who would be like
> wait why are these plebs getting a 2.0 model while Gura still has her rhombus rigging bullshit?.

But favoritism alone wouldn't warrant drastic actions such as delaying the entirety of Tempus' anniversary projects and merch (merch delays have a SIGNIFICANT impact on overall sales, so they wouldn't do it without reason).
There might have been some amount of embezzlement with the funds Omega was given to commission these models.

Or, alternatively, both of the broke NDA or had some other severe company breach.
One or the other.

>>53793530
My favorite so far was the "A fuckin' BEAR ate them! They're in the hospital heroicly fighting for their lives!" which got put in the ground when one of them just started nonchalantly tweeting on his RM. Where do they come up with this shit?
>>53793593
That one was a good one too lol

>>53793417
nothing is as toxic and depressing as luxiem sisters, but homosisters are not far behind

>>53791031
> If they were simply going to be terminated, you'd want the anniversary to happen first.
> Cover : Hey guys, here's the big Tempus anniversary and merch! Buy the merch guys, also give the boys lots of superchats for this special occasion!
> *two weeks later*
> Oh that's right, the boys are GONE now. Hahahaha fuck you!

>>53793665
I blame it on EN autism not wanting to announce that one of their flopped pet projects is on their second suspension in so many months, as the last time his suspension was announced it was by the JP twitter side of things. I think this time the EN homo loving faggots in management went with a different but ultimately futile approach, as this still has only lead to speculation and confusion by the fanbase.

>>53793665
>why has there been no announcement of said suspension/termination?
They're figuring out where to take it from here. Kinda like how Rushia's account was locked down for some days while they investigated.
The coming days will decide whether or not both are flat out terminated or officially given just a suspension.

>>53793747
They made sure Sana graduated before the 1 year Council anniversary

>>53793665
I don't genuinely believe they have been, but I wouldn't be all that surprised if they think it's to protect them from getting more hate

>>53793747
>sucking the vespies and magfags dry
would be based

>>53793761
It's hilarious they would try that after anykara got blasted for stealth suspending Zaion

>>53793665
>It would be the first time cover has ever done this
Wrong. Oga.
>they've never shied away from those kinds of announcements in the past
Wrong. Vespers first termination was only announced by JP, EN never retweeted or translated it. My bet's EN's just babying them yet again like they have since their inception, explains the weird "activities have been stopped" which is just a regular suspension announcement but jazzed up a little to make them look better. If it were anyone but a homo that announcement would have "suspension" somewhere in it.

>>53793665
They don't have an answer. They just say what the voices say.

>>53793593
holy kek, someone needs to collect a bunch of the best (worst) excuses homobeggars have come up with

>>53793679
Watamage is the one behind everywhere

>>53793835
If it was Anycolor doing it? Sure, they have that reputation.
Cover has theirs as well.
Doing something like this to a small audience of their own talents would indicate that they have changed from their roots as a small company and begun numberfagging corporate profits.
It'd be a sign of warning for the girls' future as well.

>>53793665
They are suspended because their contracts expired in middle of negotiating a new one, once the talks and resulting in no renewal Cover will announce their graduation.

I don't know why people are surprised.
Vesper is a menhera cunt and in less than a year managed to look like the biggest schizo bitch even in a company filled with mentally ill schizo women.
Magni is the same, a shameless Twitch clout chaser and a spoiled cunt. Again dude had his fair share of menhera moments on stream and reading what the sisters say he's been awfully grumpy and bitter in the past few months.
The fact that it's these two mongoloids again is no surprise. And them getting terminated because of a fuckup or jumping ship makes far more sense than any weird cope from the sisters.

>>53780897
He must involved in Haachama disappear, too.

BTW, impressive reps!

>>53793932
everything*
fuck

>>53792972
Likely explanation: Because Cover doesn't care about Niji "getting shit for stealth suspensions" - if Cover thinks those homos did something that warrants a suspension, they'll do it, they don't sit around thinking "oh nyo, we'd really like to suspend them, but we can't, because Niji recently got shit on for that, and we'd look ~just as bad as them~ omg muh imagerino, guess we'll just have to let them free instead..." or whatever.

At least they don't hide it behind "health breaks", or worse, just unannounced vacation silence, and the "their activities are stopped for a while" wording is malleable enough (stopped by whom? Sure, everyone with a brain knows it's likely stopped by Cover itself, i.e. a suspension, but it also leaves enough room so that Homosisters can cope with "n-nuh uh, the activities were stopped by the bois themselves because uuhhh reasons!") instead of a complete public execution like Zaion got.

>>53793667
The 2.0 model thing is the most curious thing linking these 2 idiots. It might be just a coincidence that the 2 most unhinged tempussies got revamps and would later also get into trouble but maybe there's something else.

>>53794025
I feel so fucking bad for Pako, he deserves better children

>>53794025
>two faggots cry about their shit 1.0 models
>seethe on their RM’s about it
>they get their 2.0’s and they don’t get anymore popular post new model debut
They seethed themselves into a suspension.

>>53793939
>would indicate that they have changed from their roots as a small company and begun numberfagging corporate profits
This happened years ago even before EN have you been living under a rock?

>>53793665
Unironically blame nijisanji, they made a mess of this kind of announcements this year so it's no surprise that cover went with the safest way possible

>>53794025
Maybe they are massive numberfags and the 2.0 redesign was their last bet to try and get some numbers. When even that failed they just decided to fuck off.

>>53791981
The "Dont go outside" was a threat

>>53793959
>mentally ill schizo women.
no need to be so redundant

>>53780897
He was also the driver involved with the accident that Aki had

>>53794089
>>they get their 2.0’s and they don’t get anymore popular post new model debut
>They seethed themselves into a suspension.
Vesper only did two streams after his redesign, and even then it took almost a week to the point people were wondering where he went. Suspicious shit's been going on for a while.

>>53794165
>Please take care too!
>Because there's a dozen KFP with switchblades outside your house waiting for the signal

>>53793761
I honestly don't think JP management would allow EN to do a stealth suspension.
I think this is an investigation. Into what? I dunno, could be many things, favoritism, embezzlement, NDA breach, leaking shit to falseeyed, sending dick picks to the girls or trying to stalk them, there's a thousand possibilities.
All we know is -
1. Cover is looking into something the two of them did.
2. During the course of this investigation, their accounts will need to be locked in order to not have any evidence tampered with (tweets, DMs or even streams could get deleted otherwise to hide the evidence).
3. They are considered innocent until proven guilty - so this isn't a "suspension" per se, their activities are just paused pending the results.

Now, AFTER the investigation completes, there's several possible results.
1. Not guilty at all : They continue streaming like normal, Tempus anniversary happens a few weeks later, everyone's happy.
2. Embezzlement or some other minor infraction detected : Warning to both, and possible suspension as well (which will be announced). Tempus anniversary will be delayed by a month in this case.
3. NDA breach or severe breach of Cover's internal code of conduct (e.g. harassing other talents, leaking PII to outsiders etc. Rushia level shit). If severe enough, could lead to outright termination for one or both of them - especially if they've been warned internally in the past.

One of them already has a record - which he claims was because of anger, but it could've been something else as well since Cover obviously doesn't want their internals getting out.
If this is a second offense (like Rushia) then it's understandable why they'd close everything down and make sure their shit is tight.

I honestly think at least Vesper is gonna be kicked, but Magni may just get a suspension since it was probably his first offense.

>>53794025
Omegay actually getting retconned during this also adds in the layer that those 3 were likely colluding with each other

>>53794102
As long as Mel and Roboco still get sponsorships, that trend has not started.

>>53793882
>Wrong. Oga.
The Oga thing, as I recall, was him taking a break after getting internet hate and seems to be more of an agreement between him and management to lay low for a while and let things blow over. this wouldn't be a suspension as he hadn't broken any company rules
>Vespers first termination was only announced by JP, EN never retweeted or translated it.
So why didn't JP announce it this time, unless you believe that EN management somehow has influence over them which is pretty ridiculous for a JP company
>They are suspended because their contracts expired in middle of negotiating a new one, once the talks and resulting in no renewal Cover will announce their graduation.
The most plausible argument i've heard thus far, but why would you assume that, if they are negotiating, those negotiations would end in failure?
>Unironically blame nijisanji
Someone else already said this, but I doubt Cover would look at niji's recent controversies and decide to emulate them

>>53794423
>Cover still operates as a small indie company and the evidence is that their less popular chuubas still get sponsorships
That's pretty naive

>>53794522
forgot to (you)
>>53793954
>>53794117

>>53794561
Do you have evidence to the contrary, other than speculative mishmash?

>>53793594
yea it's the girls who are giving Gura hard time. Girls are generally catty and jealous. Gura is not like them. Ame is actually a total cunt irl, And Calli only cares about herself

>>53782303
All the AX rrats are on the table, but it also coincides with anniversary so it could be contract negotiations.
The biggest clue for any rrat is the lack of announcement for their absence being punitive. Could be they got caught smoking weed, arrested, in contract negotiations, anything is possible.

>>53794522
>>They are suspended because their contracts expired in middle of negotiating a new one, once the talks and resulting in no renewal Cover will announce their graduation.
>The most plausible argument i've heard thus far, but why would you assume that, if they are negotiating, those negotiations would end in failure?
Given Sana, I doubt this is the case. Contracts begin when they're picked up, not when they debut. If that was the case we should've seen this about a month earlier.

>>53780897
True, and here's proof!

>>53794561
>a corporation
>Invested 3bn yen in a new studio
>IPO
Small indie company, sure anon.

>>53794798
>>53794619
here

>>53794763
>MANS is even leeching off fucking Towa Baby
At this point I kinda gotta respect the hustle

>>53794798
>>>>>IPO

>>53794350
this is the most realistic take here

>>53794917
Yeah? Please tell me how Cover Corp. is still a small indie company.

>>53794522
>The most plausible argument i've heard thus far, but why would you assume that, if they are negotiating, those negotiations would end in failure?
All the others accepted, and at least one of them would be making more money from their PL than from holo (mostly supa/performance based compensation, low base pay) with the numbers they are getting, making continuing holo a bad deal for them unless they get more money.

>>53794378
I didn't know about this until today, that's also a pretty odd coincidence. I really wanna now what the fuck is happening bts.

>>53793665
>>53788442
>Cover never did stealth suspension bef-
They fired this guy overnight, no graduation, no proper goodbye, everything gone in less than a day. Newfags don't know the times when stars didn't have human rights.

>>53795198
>Karou getting fired
>Holocaust
>Mio getting suspended from the holocaust
>Miko going on extended health break
newfags don't know about the week from hell

>>53780320
>>53791826
Orange woman mad

>>53795198
cool calli outfit, why she never wear it?

>>53794860
>a company spending 3 billion yen in a new studio is just speculation and is no indication that they're no longer a small indie company
I could not live with myself if I was this fucking retarded

>>53795058
>All the others accepted
nta but imagine having your anniversary celebration derided and held up by your genmates. Not to say everyone should bootlick and take it in the ass by their employer but man I'd be furious if I were the other two tempiss fags. Even more so if the ones on strike succeeded and got a better contract than I did as a good dog. Sour grapes for a whole fucking year.

>>53795130
Corpo-cynical answer would be that if he's really the manager of the two that are suspended, he would be furloughed with no pay as he has nothing to do, leading to quitting due to no money if poor life skills. A less charitable interpretation, if the two that are suspended are getting fired, he would be redundant.

>>53795198
They don't deserve human rights.
Funny beyblade asmr tho.

>>53794522
>seems to be more of an agreement between him and management
Japanese corporate autism. If management "suggests" you take a vacation it's indistinguishable from them telling you you are going on vacation whether you like it or not, could go either way really.
>So why didn't JP announce it this time
My guess is EN threw a fit over JP announcing things the way they did and talked JP into allowing EN to announce things themselves, explains the fact EN's announcement this time is so baby-ish.

>>53795638
I'm pretty sure Vesper, Magni, and Bettel share the same manager

>>53781798
Do you remember Rushia rings? Cover sold them when the discord incident happened

>>53779642
Please god remove all faggots

>>53795884
The birthday merch that went on sale a month before the discord incident happened? When Cover had no clue they'd be firing her?

>>53795884
With Rushia’s merch, they gave everyone who bought it an option to refund it or keep it.
I don’t think delaying the merch is a good sign only because it means that Cover is trying to avoid another refund headache if the worst case does happen.
Imagine this, anniversary happens and one or both leaves the company. Fans will get mad that they sold them the merch while knowing they were leaving and they will have to work with CC companies to issue refunds for those who want it.
For third parties it doesn’t really matter since fans are understanding that this shit is planned months in advance.

>>53794350
>All we know is -
1. All activities of Magni Dezmond and Noir Vesper from HOLOSTARS English including live streaming will be stopped for a while.

Anything else is a rrat.

>>53779642
Hopefully Vesper will understand that corporate vtubing is harmful to his mental health and graduate. I don't care about Magni.

>>53795843
Magni and Bettel share one with Axel, not Vesper.

>>53795884
You could refund it though.

>>53796539
I kind of want to see a Randon x Sayu collab

>>53796507
Not really, these are all rrat free and confirmed though.

1. All activities of Magni Dezmond and Noir Vesper from HOLOSTARS English including live streaming will be stopped for a while.
2. They talked on stream about having plans for the following days, so this break wasn't planned
3. They've both been active on their RM
4. Ani merch delayed
5. Omega introduction video and page on the official website were removed.

Bettel will not renew his contract if Magni is gone, just throwing that out there.

>>53796580
big companies can't risk having a large wave of customers possibly wanting to refund a charge all at once because some of those customers might just go ahead and call their banks and ask to revert the charges and THOSE affect the company in the long run

>>53796692
good

>>53795198
Well maybe he shouldn't have fucked the whore of Hololive

>>53796663
>They've both been active on their RM
I knew Magni was, didnt know Vesper was.
Huh. Thats...interesting.

Isn't Magni arugmently more popular as his RM?

>>53796868
Absolutely.
And if Vesper left/fired, his RM is well-known now - he would be just fine as well.

>>53796663
>They've both been active on their RM
They've been active for months. Magni actively streamed until he went to a bunch of conventions recently, Vesper only ever made the occasional tweet and entered 1 tournament. The rest together don't really narrow things down.

>>53796707
It was a very special situation, so yes you could anon.
Although im not even sure they had started to produce the actual products at that time.

>>53796615
JANNIES!

>>53796868
As a streamer no, as a content creator yes. If he got access to the Korean circle then there’s really no point in staying in Tempus.

>>53797170
If a company can avoid being in that position, they will, even if it's a special situation. I agree that actual product were probably not made yet, tho.

>>53797205
If he thinks he got access to that circle he will be really sad when he is terminated and they want nothing to do with his RM.

>>53797205
>the Korean circle
just say Kronii's pussy like a grown up

>>53797284
Kronii doesn’t matter, what did matter was getting on Daph39’s good side since she’s a key figure in that circle and being in Tempus fucked up that opportunity.

>>53797352
Magni only gives a shit about girl_dm. Just look at how much he retweets and comments on shit of hers not only on Magni but RM.

>>53793665
>Genuine question for those who believe that they've been suspended/terminated, why has there been no announcement of said suspension/termination? It would be the first time cover has ever done this
Anon have you never been suspicious of the radio silent "health" breaks with Sana, Ina, Gura, Laplus, or Haachama? I would argue that it's odd for a hololive talent to disappear for months only to come back with an unlikely explanation for complete radio silence. Tempus management is actually more lenient since they make it obvious that Vesper and Magni had their activities stopped.

>>53790452
Magni is active on his rm account. The only one missing is Vesper but if he was the only problem Magni wouldn't be not-suspended as well. The merch rrat makes sense because it's likely that not even prototypes were made yet so they're delaying it to edit and remove those two since they're going to be terminated.

>>53795198
>newfag
>literally been subbed since Miyabi debuted
kill yourself faggot
that isn't a 'stealth suspension' you complete and utter retard

>>53797352
Belle Delphine?

>>53797891
>stealth firing isn't the same as stealth suspension
True, it's worse.

>>53797984
you've still not proven anything retard
there is 0 proof they stealth suspended anyone before

>>53781058
wasn't not-Kronii there?

>>53797638
Rrat: Magni + Vesper using their holo card to fuck girl_dm and give her an in into EN3 via Omegay. This collusion and ring of deception was uncovered bc girl_dm snitched to Cover when the teaser dropped and she was never contacted about EN3. That's why Omegay has been completely retconned and those two are locked out of their holo accounts.

>>53793667
Maybe Omegay commissioned the new models behind Cover's back using funds that were supposed to be allocated to something else

It would explain why they got suspended after streaming with the new models for the first time, because that was when Cover first found out it was even happening and started investigating what the fuck was going on

>>53797939
She wishes

>>53798043
>There is no reason why they cant tweet if they werent suspended
<There is no reason why they cant chat during other members streams if they werent suspended
Checkmate.

>>53798043
They did worse , and stars have always had a bitter treatment in the beginning, if you actually fucking watched them like you implied, then you'd know. Suzaku was ghosted to the point he had to quit too.

>>53788657
things they sperg out over tend to be serious for the japanese audience

>>53779642
My guess is either a major security breach that they are trying to clean up or problems with contract negotiation. If these two were suspended for doing something stupid I feel cover would most likely just announce it to keep rrats from flooding too strong. A security breach would be kept quiet as to not spread too much of the companies inner business around to people it doesn't really concern.

The biggest thing to consider when it comes to this situation is less the fact that two talents are currently not streaming and more the fact that cover is purposely not telling us why.

>>53798202
>he doesn't know why Suzaku actually retired
lol
lmao even

>>53779642
Hope so!

>>53798128
believable

>>53798138
do you think cover would completely miss the hype around the streams when they showed the new models?

>>53788059
It also explains why Kronii collabed with Gura.
She knows Mori's clique is finished.

>>53798548
>security breach
The chances of that being so bad that 2 of their talents aren't allowed to use any work account until it's resolved are fucking null. Even Mio was active on twitter back when she went on a hiatus to clear the strikes on her channel, and Haachama's life issues didn't impede Gen 1 to have their anniversaries.
>contract negotiations
They sign their contracts a few months before debut. Considering how they all got into hiatus on their rm/pl accounts around May of last year implies that month is when they renovate their contracts, and during one of Magni's last stream before the not-suspension he was talking about his ideas for the anniversary stream so it doesn't make sense for him to look forward to the event if he was delaying his contract's renovation.

>>53798110
Last year, not this year.

>>53796663
>Omega introduction video and page on the official website were removed.
What was this? I thought Omega was gone or something

>>53788409
The other reason is YAGOO really wants his boys in JP to be successful. So EN, was supposed to make it happen.

>>53791928
>>53792452
You should have watched Nina given her tastes.
Her vods are still up at least.

>>53799036
Every trace of him is gone from the official website and youtube channel, wouldn't be surprised if they deleted his twitter next.

>>53799268
Nah, usually they leave the twitter accounts alone as an archive.

>>53796947
His rm has not been active though
He could be dead or in jail for all we knkw

>>53788409
I think this was true of Omega but not the new guy.
This year they've been trying to market the girls as idols instead of just entertainers (the audition trailer even highlights idol activities as the main perk).
There's the ancient rrat that losebait was Omega (his name showed up in Myth's first Halloween stream discord leak) and he was pretty open about how much he hated Hololive's audience.

>>53799443
That's beside the point.
Enough people know about his RM that if he left or was fired from Stars, word would get around where he goes back to and he would be fine.

>>53799268
good, fuck that gaylord and everything he stood for

>>53779642
I wish it was the end but the blue troon said he's in it for the long run so probably not
The best we can hope for right now is Cover getting rid of the sexpest and his companion

>>53798920
>They sign their contracts a few months before debut. Considering how they all got into hiatus on their rm/pl accounts around May of last year implies that month is when they renovate their contracts, and during one of Magni's last stream before the not-suspension he was talking about his ideas for the anniversary stream so it doesn't make sense for him to look forward to the event if he was delaying his contract's renovation.

Signing date is not same as effective date. Upcoming anniversary and other plans is normal work, plans for that would have been made regardless and well ahead of time.

At most it indicates the lack of agreement or Cover actually pulling the plug was unexpected.

Also kek "renovation"

>>53779642
Trust the plan. Their demise is unevitable

>>53792845
I can see that honestly after this weird impersonation thingy Gura mentioned last time when vesleech got suspended it was a bit too much of a coincidence, perhaps they were suspecting him for all kinds of shit like that but there just wasn't enough proof until now.
Vesper obviously wanted to push Kiara into collabing with them but she's not the kind of person that would just go with it and acting pushy like that would likely make her annoyed in "who do you think you are kind of way" much like she was annoyed with omega and his shenanigans.

>>53791795
Being the most menhera talent in the whole corp, it's not a big mystery.

>>53796770
Because it's wrong. Vesper is completely MIA right now. If this weird pseudo-suspension didn't include Magni, people might legit believe that Vesper died.

>>53799656
I don't think the girls are involved at all.

>>53799611
Sana announced her graduation almost two months before her anniversary and graduated like 3 weeks before it. Unless Cover is really willing to give those faggots preferential treatment it makes no sense for their contract negotiations to take potentially 2 whole months considering how they're only big regarding their branch which is the second worst performing one in the entire company.

>>53784369
More like suspension is just a temporary measure to prevent them from meddling into the investigation not the punishment in itself, that would likely be termination and they wouldn't go this far if they weren't 90% sure anyway.

>>53793665
Pride. They're trying their best to salvage a situation that can't be saved.

>>53799268
If they delete his Twitter, than we know he was fired. Removing his youtube account and mention of him from the official website is consistent with Shinove's retirement.

>>53799947
Coco's graduation was set in stone around March of 2021 but she didn't graduate until July iirc.

>>53799987
I don't think they ever suspended Rushia when she was under investigation right?
I think they just went from
>We support Rushia, please wish her well and await for her return
to a sudden
>Rushia has been fired for breaking NDA

>>53799268
I can see Omega having embezzled Cover funds for his own Holostars EN projects without letting Cover know and approve them. If Vesper and Magni aren't getting shitcanned because the announcement was a halt of activities instead of a straight up suspension it would have included spending funds he wasn't supposed to on new models and such without approval. That's the only out I can think of for those two.

>>53779642
EN3 is to be announced soon.

>>53800166
You've said that every week for the past year

>>53800155
Rushia had a "self imposed break." Three days later Cover released a statement supporting her right to a private life and also they're investigating her for breaking NDA, then announcing her termination 10 days later

>>53784811
You're right, it's possible that they just try to protect the homos from more external backlash, last time homobeggars actually cried about making it public and it seems like Cover likes to listen to this types as of late which is sad because they would pretty much kill their reputation just to save two dumb homos from problems that they've caused themselves.

>>53779642

>>53799520
he hated /here/ as in /jp/
also tweeted about his coworkers hating him at one point kek

>>53779642
i hope they are not, but they probably will huh. wish dont come true.

>>53779942
Just like the huge efforts it took to remove Rushia... wait...

>>53800087
Coco was a special case

>>53779642
Unicornchads can't stop winning!

It's no surprise to me that the two dudes Kronii and Mori constantly collab with are the two biggest fucking troublemakers in the entire holostars branch and it's not a coincidence the same two dudes are besties. They're genuinely mentally unstable, worse than insane women. At least Mori learned (the hard way) to stop making an ass out of herself so much. Mental illness attracts mental illness and if there's anything Cover can learn (Cover... "learning", yeah right) is that the second tempus guys were the better hires and that they need to hire more easygoing people and to make their interview process a bit more detailed. If they keep fucking up, they will unironically hire some troll/shitposter from 4chan who will do nothing but harass the girls on purpose and say nigger on stream. Which would be fucking hilarious, don't get me wrong, but it would show just how weak the people in charge are at scouting.

>>53801802
>At least Mori learned (the hard way) to stop making an ass out of herself so much.
Would've been nice if she learnt that lesson before corrupting Kronii into following her old "fuck da hators" mindset
Or if she could have another heart to heart with Kronii and tell her about how much of a mistake that was because Kronii is the type that won't learn it on her own but is a lot more influenceable from friends

>>53801802
If Magni and Vesper both leave/get fired, Tempus will be left to rot by management.
One of two things will happen by the time contract renewals come...
>Cover gives them a contract thats so absolute dogshit that they would essentially have no reason to stay
>Cover doesnt even give the option of renewal and retires the branch
I lean toward the first.

>>53779642
The longer they stop showing up with holo in their name the better

Well magni just posted on his other twitter account about feeling down. Wonder how things are going. Hmmm..

>>53802388
Second will never happen because it would mean admitting that they failed and will never have a successful male branch.
If anything, they might triple down when their gen 3 debuts.

>>53781058
>>53781058
>unless it was something that happened at AX that involved both of them?
QRD?

>>53802596
Good
Suffer homo

>>53802596
Seems to be going well, I’d say.

>>53802388
>tempus will be left to rot
Not true, they're management and yagoo's favorites. Bettel will replace Magni's fanbase and Vespies will scatter, but it's way, way unlikely that they'd close the branch. A lot of replies in here seem to be talking about sunk cost fallacy, but the truth is the 'cost' isn't that high for cover to have a failed gen so they'll keep their little passion project going

>>53802720
>homo
>raped the girls
well goddamn which one is it, are they flaming turbo fags or hetero predators preying on your precious idols

>>53793417
Not quite as toxic as luxiem sisters but they're not that far off either.

>>53802889
I can smell the period blood from here

>>53797032
The fact they are active from their RM remove any possibility of technical issue, injuries, arrestation and a few other IRL stuff like death for exemple. It actually help narrow down a lot of paths.

>>53802703
Not-Magni went to AX but there's no proof that not-Vesper did the same.

>>53802596
Great! guy is an asshole. Hated his model since day one but instead of talk it with managers he decided to rant about it on RM's twitter. Karma

Reminder that the real reason gets autobanned so you wont ever see it.

desu I feel like the rrat about Magni and Vesper leaking shit they shouldn't have at AX then someone snitching on Cover is the more likely explanation. Omega isn't involved since he's been gone for a while now. Also possible that Magni and Vesper are stupid enough to try to form a union and Cover is kicking their ass to the curb after giving them an ultimatum, they're dumb enough to think they're valuable after all that money spent on the new models

>>53780189
Agreed

>>53802889
>doesn't understand how it can't be both at the same time
woman *spits* Homo Homoni Lupus

>>53799947
Don't rule out contract negotiations. I

>>53803175
Cover sacrificed Coco to apiece the chinese market (unsuccessfully), so if these two actually ended up in this situation, they are seriously fucking stupid and didn't do their homework. Thinking they can be "we're too good to be fired", please.

>>53803025
The only technical issues anyone brings up involve things like loosing equipment or getting their accounts hacked, and no one seriously believes they died or got arrested.

>>53803406
I could see contract negotiations being the reason for magni especially since he has his other account to fall back on, he can afford to play hardball a little. But doesn’t make sense for vesper.

>>53803665
>no one seriously believes they died or got arrested
never underestimate how retarded some people can be

>>53803753
>doesn't make sense for Vesper
Yes it does. he's doing it for the bit

>>53803753
Nothing make sense with Vesper's actions, but Vesper is a old black man with delusions of grandeur, on meds and have a lack of social skills. So we are not at the same level of 4d chess as he is.

>>53803826
>spoiler
Vesper is the one dude I 100% believe would go "I know I just got this new model but I'm bored of this, I'm out"

>>53795198
>get harassed by unicorns so badly you want to just go back and do your rm shit
>cover obliges and let's him quit
That's literally all it was, unicorns just harassed him and the other guy so badly it broke their mental. Not that I blame them.

>>53803946
I’d feel bad for Pako, dude can’t catch a break

I've come to terms with the fact that they'll be back eventually. That is the worst outcome afterall, and when has anything good ever come out of Holostars?

>>53802833
You all are incredibly blind for being such haters of Tempus.
Things are significantly different to how they were just a year ago.
Omega is gone. Collabs are down even more than they were before. The girls who did acknowledge them hardly ever even bring them up anymore.
Its pretty obvious current management has told the two sides to keep to themselves more.

>>53802596
I would feel down too if the thing that supposed to be an easy money grab opportunity didn't materialize KEK

>>53805179
Well all the fangirls on his rm channel liked his voice and personality, so that would be an easy way of making more money of it, except they don't donate, they focus their yellow fever on his rm's body/face and they don't watch streams.

>>53803753
I doubt its contract negotiations. Magni was dying to get into HoloLive. If you actually watch you'll see how badly he's been wanting this chance. He also talks about being ride or die with the Tempus boys so I doubt he's backing out just for more money.

And considering Shinri has an actual law degree, Cover's the contract can't be that bad if he's willing to sign it.

>>53803098
lol. all he said was he was sad and you take that as ranting

>>53804720
If they come back after all of this bullshit then Cover is breaking human anatomy to bend over backwards just to coddle those failures. The EN homos are the first for many negative things both EN side and company wide and a double suspension that's not a suspension but it's worded like a suspension less than 2 weeks before their anniversary that ended up with the official postponement of it and merch delays is just too fucking much for those faggots to come back like nothing ever happened.

I just heard there's a hollywood strike over ai among other things; I wonder if this could be related.

>>53805426
I'm sorry my guy, but your comment really have zero correlation to current topic and rrats at hand.

>>53803489

Appease not apiece. I like the cut of your jib but I don’t want you to get called a dirty ESL.

>>53805266
are you telling me fangirls don't watch streams and engage with the content? no way

>>53806186
Almost like fleshtuber doesn't bring in the audience + vtuber audience at the same time. Like it's two very different markets.

>>53805426
EN3 new hires