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Why is Indonesia missing? Even the Philippines and Thailand are bigger markets for vtubers. Would HoloPH have been much more successful than HoloID which is constantly losing money?

>> No.53762670

>>53762467
>holoPH
Keep dreaming pagpag eater.

>> No.53762782

>>53762467
whatever float your boat pignoise, ywn get HoloPH

the closest things you get HoloPH is actually Millie, so you better support her from now on

>> No.53763779

>>53762467
I think that graphic depicts supply, not demand,
so it isn't clear PH or TH are bigger markets than ID.

>> No.53763878

>>53762467
>>53763779

Yeah, all the graph shows is that there are more Philippine and Thai vtubers than Indonesian, meaning there was a deficit in Indonesia, which is why Cover went in to exploit that lack.

I mean, that was with Cover assuming there was a local (and foreign) market for ID talent, and there clearly is.

>> No.53763942

>>53762467
Philippines is too unstable and untrustworthy, it's far too risky for overseas business ventures where you're dependent on local companies and workers to not screw you over deliberately or due to unforeseen circumstances.

>> No.53765294

>>53762670
Fpbp

>> No.53765325

>>53762467
Yagoo has talked about why he chose Indonesia before. He said anime and manga do really well in Indonesia so he figured V-Tubers would too.

My personal rrrat is that it was a low risk dry run for holoEN. All of the first Indonesian talents they picked spoke English and debuted before EN. They could test some waters and set up more talents for EN to interact with while paying very little. The buying power of Indonesian currency is pretty low. Their average yearly income is like 9 grand. The talents could survive on what would be peanuts to the other branches.

>> No.53765376

>>53762467
>constantly losing money
I don’t even think the Stars are losing money. Once you’ve debuted, the majority of the lifetime costs have already been paid.

>> No.53765428

>>53762467
>HoloID which is constantly losing money?
Source?

>> No.53766079

>HoloID which is constantly losing money
Please provide your insider information

>> No.53766253
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53766253

>>53762670
FPBP. now go back munching your pagpag OP

>> No.53766284

>>53762670
fpbp

>> No.53766313

>>53762467
HoloPH? Nah thank you. We don't need additional cancers here.

>> No.53766379

>>53762467
Who gives shit about 3rd world SEA shitholes. You will never be relevant, because you cannot even create a functioning society. What normal corporation would want to have anything to do with you besides using you for slave labor?

>> No.53766421

>>53766253
I don't care about ID, PH or any of these other third world countries but don't use my oshi for you shitposts

>> No.53766435

Flips sure do have some pride issues. The power of Pinoy Pride sure blinds them into thinking their 3rd world shithole is worth anything. Dramafags whose whole world revolves around constant gossip and keeping appearances.

>> No.53766845

>>53762467
>this shit again
SHUT THE FUCK UP
HINDI KA BA MARUNONG MAG-ENGLISH?

>> No.53767296

Those pagpags rot your brain, anonchama. You even mistook supply with demand

>> No.53767339

>>53762467
>streamhatchet
those guys are a bunch of morons who cant get one thing right thats why

>> No.53768285

>>53762467
They dont matter

>> No.53768457
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53768457

>>53762467
They are chinese level presence on internet.
Rude and stupid

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53768505

>>53762670
Fpbp.

>> No.53768527

>>53762467
>Thailand is right after USA
Huh. I only knew about the hentai face guy existing. Didn't know they were that big.

>> No.53768569

>>53768457
>racist and smart
ftfy
https://youtu.be/RBQ0WToKvQ4

>> No.53768577

>>53762467
Who cares about numbers, one viewer from a first world country is worth 1000x some PH or INdog

>> No.53768606

>>53762467
They datascraped youtube and just displayed the data "as is" without consulting someone with subject knowledge in the industry

Everyone in the vtuber fandom knows that all Hololive Indonesia's talent have their account's country as Japan, and they own the largest share in the market.

Other Indonesian chuuba with an Indonesian flag for their youtube account are mostly indies that aren't big enough to fit into the chart.

>> No.53768638

>>53766379
lmao our region is better than the shithole country you live in

>> No.53768683

>>53768577
Not you though, you're probably living paycheck-to-paycheck. you'd be better off killing yourself

>> No.53768863

>>53768683
even if I lived paycheck to paycheck in the US (I don't) I'd have more disposable income internationally than 99.9% of the third world.

>> No.53769290

>>53768569
At least chinks is smart

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53769340

>>53768638

>> No.53769376

>>53768863
And yet we'd still be living better than your shithole of a place lol. Again, do yourself a favor and kys

>> No.53769413

>>53768683
>Living paycheck to paycheck
Sound like 3rd worlder Flips to me.

>> No.53769439

>>53769376
Take your own advice

>> No.53771215

nijiPH Millie,Mysta amd ?

>> No.53771465

>>53762670
>google pagpag because idkwtf it is
>leftover discarded meat from restaurants
>mfw I did this when I was homeless

>> No.53773400

Why are you seething?

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53773918

>>53762467
Yeah, Sure It Is Bro!

>> No.53774057

>>53773918
>No YT
So basically OP is a retarded pinoy.
>Bigo Live
Isn't that a streaming app which was advertised as this chaturbate clone?

>> No.53774687

>>53774057
That's why OP was coping so hard

>> No.53774811

another retarded pignoy

>> No.53776082

Where is literally any country aside from these 8 that add up to 100%?

>> No.53776513

>>53762467
I'd take TW or KR and dissolve indog failure branch, Hololive should be sanitized from SEA shithole

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53776939

>>53762467
Jelly much?

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53777090

>>53774057
>No YT
Of course it included YT. YT just isn't available in the "Platform overview" options. As part of StreamCharts breakdown of info on the top 3000 vtubers they also included this chart. Notice where 68.1% of those vtubers stream?

>> No.53778735

>>53769376
cope

>> No.53779619

>>53762467
Post a link of a PH woman rolling her Rs.

>> No.53779663

>>53766379
this but unironically. the society is so shitty that something essential like good internet access is a luxury, the cost needed to become a vtuber is so high that you better off becoming a regular content creator instead. when you have enough money and willpower to become one, the kind of people you cater is broke ass student who get their anime intakes from local pirating sites, the kind of people who wont gives you donation, while a few people who is smart enough to earn shitton of money is smart enough to realise that buying a virtual thank yous for 5 or 10 dollar is not a good trade.

>> No.53779829

>>53762467
It's interesting to see how many Thai vtubers there are. A lot more than I expected.

>> No.53780652

>flips wanting flip vtubers
get better bait

>> No.53781625
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53781625

>>53771465
Dumpster diving is a society phenomenon.
Even first world countries have them. If you're homeless and didn't have money, diving to convenient store's dumpster for barely expired foods is not a wrong thing.
The problem with pagpag is the fact that they sell pagpag to other flips and those buyers realize that they paid money for filthy processed garbage.

>> No.53782453

>>53781625
a sane anon in /vt/ holy shit

>> No.53786342

>>53762467
hololive does not need the drama filipinas would bring.

>> No.53786709

>>53762467
>>53763878
The stats are derived "based on stats of 3000 most popular Vtubers", so it's hardly a comprehensive graph to begin with.
There could be actually more ID Vtubers in reality than PH ones, but they aren't large enough to be on the graph.

As for why 2% of the top 3000 Vtubers are PH, that's simple to explain - the Philippines uses English considerably more. The real surprising SEA country here on this chart is Thailand, actually.

>> No.53787073

>>53762467
If ID losing money is true, then why does Yagoo still invest in more gens when HoloEN already exists as a universal branch where he can lump all the non JPs in? Why is he giving the branch increasingly bigger projects if they weren't worth the resources?

>> No.53787864

>>53787073
EN members are lazy and cause problems. ID work hard and speak a lot more JP.

>> No.53789438

Ahh the phillipines, a whored and colonized country that has english an official language. A mini Africa that has more cell towers than food. A place where the politicians sell their territory to corpos and let the population starve or die due to pagpag. Every pignoy I've met have been nothing but an seedy boat rat working at the docks, waiting for the shift to end so he can waste his meager salary on McDonalds

>> No.53790221

>>53789438
>take 5 years worth of salary in USD
>convert it all into the regions monopoly money and become rich
>buy some decent shithole house in SEAland with a "nice" internet connection
>retire before 30
||>die of a cocaine overdose at 50 when the money runs out||
maybe 3rd world shitholes aren't so useless after all...

>> No.53790271

>>53762467
How about we keep away from sea and focus on japanese vtubers instead

>> No.53790838

>>53765325
Pretty much this. This is why NijiID (or used to be) are staying even when they're treated like forgotten middle child. Even when they're the low earners in Anykara list their income is still way better than most average Indonesian wagies.
This is why it's still sad that Anykara is stealthily firing NijiID's low earners one by one in disguise of graduation. Even Nara Haramaung subtly said so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv2MUfho4I8
(Kino character design btw)
I don't know how people still have good faith toward Anykara after what they did to NijiID

>> No.53791012

>>53762467
>Oviously salty PHfag who want to shit on IDfags
Keep dreaming anon. Your Vtuers are too crass and crude and ya6 machine.

>> No.53791356

Flips unironically make the worst vtubers look at all the pagpags like Millie and Luca in NijiEN

>> No.53791414

>>53789438
>>53790221
American men love Pinoys because:
>They can marry Asian woman just by being rich
>Get drunk every night from cheap beer because the country is Catholic majority
>Feel like old colonialist again
>Escaping American woke culture because Pinoy willing to vote for a Marcos just to get away from LGHDTV President candidate
>Most people speak English so Americans don't have to learn a new language

>> No.53791588

>>53781625
The problem is dumpster diving in US can be quite profitable in US because they love to throw away perfectly fine stuff.
Dumpster diving in PH only give you pagpag material and AIDS

>> No.53791639

>>53791588
How did you get AIDS from dumpster diving in Pagpagland?

>> No.53792684

>>53791414
>let me tell you about what you like
No, you retard. I've noticed their obsession with capitalizing everything to pass themselves as western but in reality that's just text that went through a translator or an AI. You're either a retardes pagpag eater or a sorry American that has to make do with what he has, or maybe you're naive enough to believe the exception makes rule. All you have to do to realize how shitty that place is and how shitty the people are is watch any of the multiple documentaries spawned from their misery

>> No.53795455

>>53792684
>Not knowing about passport bros
>Not knowing about digital nomad
Oh you sweet summer child

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53796394

>>53791639
As a Bisayan ethnonationalist, Manila and pagpag represent perfectly the average tagalog and the moraally just framework of dealing with the Wannabe Westoids Cucks and Protestants masquerading as Catholics of the shithole island known as Luzon is to instinctive slap a tape in their mouth for their putrid breathe and opinions are a hazard to all mankind

>> No.53797265

What I find amusing with /vt/ is they take anything they see in Youtube as gospels. Some random video that shows pagpag and /vt/ thinks it's McDonalds here. I lived all my life in the PH and walk around the poorest areas. Heck, I've only heard pagpag here in this board. No wonder western countries are such a shit hole right now.

>> No.53797665

>>53789438
no wonder why the schools in your country is a free for all shooting range.

>> No.53797754

>>53769290
If you have a billion chinks to go by, sure.

>> No.53798370
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>>53762467
HoloTH makes more sense. The Philippines uses English as a second national language, so much so that HoloEN is "their branch." Add to that their economic growth has stagnated compared to their SEA peers, so foreign investments have steered away from the Philippines for a good reason. Thailand has a more promising market for VTubers, as they have a higher value for visual arts and Japanese culture in their society, while having a language not served by existing branches. Basically, what i'm saying is that there will never be a HoloPH, so cope harder, stop huffing that bottle of rubber cement, and finish your plastic baggie of pagpag.

>> No.53798598

>>53765325
>>53790838
Wasn't Bae and alike 90% of nijiEN former ID streamers? Its not even like Bae hides the fact she used to work with Miori

>> No.53798736

>>53798370
I don't know about you but I'd like to see less tranny vtubers not more

>> No.53798860

>>53797665
Pagpag fuckers want to be just like the Americans that abandoned them. That's why they have corrupt cops that shoot up a mom and her kid just because they were being annoying loud or do drive bys on a guy enjoying his chow, but instead of "driving by" get down and blast him until he is swiss cheese. And you can just go to Sunday mass, and all is forgiven.

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53798890

>>53798736
As if the Philippines don't have trannies of their own.

>> No.53798946

>>53797265
It's mostly just coping Indos projecting their shit living conditions and diet. Don't take them too seriously, they are suffering and hurting every day and deserve compassion

>> No.53798997

>>53798736
>>53798890
Wasn't there that US soldier that drowned one of them, and got away scott-free?

>> No.53799413

>>53798946
As if Flips are not suffering and hurting everyday. SEALand needs some compassion.

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53800645

>>53798946
>Getting shit on by Americans
>"Don't worry bro, it's just Indonesians seething at us"
You guys are pathetic. So in love with the American culture (and money) you guys even blaming others rather than facing the Americans.
At this rate, just let your country to become American colony again and suffer the same fate as Puerto Rico

>> No.53801335

Doesn't the Philippines have many blackouts? Many caused by the attempted theft of electricity? Would be difficult to consistently stream there. But can still hire if they move elsewhere.

>> No.53801795

>>53798860
Still cannot top a fking wellness check where the cops shot a nigger just because...or a pigskin whitfag that was forgiven cuz mah head ain't functioning properly...

>> No.53802145

>>53801335
Jakarta is literally sinking by the second. HoloES is still the best course of action just from the sheer amount of viewers.

>> No.53802991

>>53801795
Oh I remember the years when Flips can off one another with just the assumption that they are a drug dealer. Have a neighbor you don't like? Just toss a baggy at his front door and you can come knocking with your glock. Flips try so hard to emulate Americans.

>> No.53803118

>>53802991
All sanctioned by Fliplands president too.

>> No.53803171

>>53802145
They are moving Jarkata to Borneo. No small feat. The rising sea will affect many other nations and it's good to see that they are being proactive about it.

>> No.53803302

>>53801335
Doesn't help the Country is literally a monsoon shield from anything coming out of pacific.
Electricity theft is mainly a thing in the remote villages and most are in the southern islands.

The Constant blackout is due to infrastructure unable to keep up with the constant monsoon, hot droughts, Forest fires and the various tectonic and volcanic problem caused by the geography, last week they had 3 storms gangbanging their entire territory.

Unlucky for the Flips whose domestic energy sources comes from said disasters

>> No.53804438

>>53762670
I don't get this pagpag eater meme. I don't even know it even existed.

>> No.53804614

>>53767296
vtubers are popular in ph too so I don't know what you're talking about.

>> No.53804744

>>53765325
They were probably just following Niji at the time with NijiID. I mean, there were plans for holoKR and holo India too.

>> No.53805020

these replies are so racist, christ.

>> No.53805217

>>53789438
Schizo

>> No.53806281

>>53802991
If we are talking casualty, a year of gun violence in US has a higher body count than the whole term that shit was in effect. An insurrection led by an orange cunt and he still cannot be put behind bars. Such a sorry story

>> No.53806843

>>53802145
New York is also sinking anon
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a43931305/new-york-city-is-literally-sinking/

>> No.53807275

>>53798370
>The Philippines uses English as a second national language, so much so that HoloEN is "their branch."
True, but you can also argue that HoloEN was meant to be a catch-all for the world anyway.
>Add to that their economic growth has stagnated compared to their SEA peers, so foreign investments have steered away from the Philippines for a good reason.
Outright false. Philippine real GDP growth is forecast to be around 6-7% this year (6.4% for Q1), while TH, MY, and ID are all in the range of 3-5%.

>> No.53807371

>>53804438
It's mostly from self depreciating flips, then catalognigs boarded the train just as usual

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