/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>53745351
has she completely dropped the light gfe she used to do?

From what Kson mentioned when she said she renegotiated her contract in a tweet, it sounds like the managers or whoever was behind the scenes at Vshojo started taking way too much of their earnings.

>>53745351
>So Vshojo was the problem all along huh?
Always has been

>>53745351
buy an ad

>>53745869
Vshocuck seethe

Mouse mogging Holos deflection thread

>>53745351
She was the least popular member until the hogwarts drama
Vshojo only cared to push forward the others, either way vshojo got fucked regardless of favoritism

>>53745351
>Figure
This is a lot like the PC case thing. Someone else tested the waters for the company making the figures first in this case Yocci and Buffpup and after the numbers for how well they were selling came in they started signing vtubers like mad to get them figures. Including Zentreya and Melody.
>Cup
Zen's gotten 2 cups and has a third available now while Mouse got one too. Nyan also got one before leaving, and the bar for getting them seems to be pretty low since even my favorite 3view Captain Hannah got one. Also Silver did get one while at VShojo. https://twitter.com/_Silvervale_/status/1558557504258408449
>Sponsored
Everyone under the sun got the Story of Seasons sponsorship. Even goddamn Hime Hajime lmao. https://twitchtracker.com/hajime/streams/40451076775

>>53748791
>Join Vshojo
>Gets no sponsor for 1 entire year
>Gets 1 cup, 1 collab with Ironside
>In 2 fucking years.
>Leave Vshojo
>Gets 4 sponsors
>Gets her figure, gets her cup + more
>In 2 months
What amazing job Vshojo did.

>>53748076
it's amazing how one disabled little rat can make an entire board seethe. They still haven't gotten over the line for her Panel at AX.

>>53745469
She just released a Patreon porn image where she calls the unseen male "Chat-senpai"

>>53745351
It's because she's dating twitch royalty now. Her numbers are lower than they were in Vshojo.

>>53745351
>leaves vshojo
>gets the same shit any random 4view indie can
wow amazing

>>53751976
Going by Twitch Tracker Silver had 6 streams labeled #ad during her time at VShojo. PSO2, Monster Hunter Rise, My Time at Sandrock, Frozen Flame, Honkai Star Rail, and Octopath Traveler 2. In terms of streams that just have "sponsored" in the title she got Rune Factory 5, Chocobo GP, Elden Ring, Counterside, Soul Hackers 2, and Tower of Fantasy for 6 more. So that's 12 sponsored streams she accepted at VShojo. That's vs 2 she's gotten since leaving, not 4. Unless there's others that have neither sponsored nor ad it's been FF16 and Story of Seasons. Also for what it's worth it's entirely possible the figure was in the works before she even left VShojo. Zen was teasing the figure as early as January, 3 months before Silver left with the first early render being in March, 1 month before she left.

Anyway anon this stuff is extremely easy to fact check, especially when you're saying it in front of a former Silver viewer.

>>53754607
yeah she also hasn't done anything close to VILLS since she left either and iirc admitted to not wanting to do any of the more expensive lore videos vshojo handled anymore.

>>53754341
>her panel
Don't be disingenuous and pretend like it was just her.

>>53754496
chat senpai is back? nice

>>53745351
GamerSupps realized the vtubers make money

ShyLily got a second cup (+clothes), Nyan got a cup without even being partnered with them, Aethel got one and it sold so well he's getting another (with Nyan) soon
Sinder, Rainhoe, even Fefe got a cup, and Vei teased hers a little while back as well

Buff and Yocci broke the seal on NovelHorizons, now they're announcing new vtuber figures left and right
Zen, Melody, Nanoless, Saruei, Numi, and Sinder all have figures with them, all announced within the last few months

Silver is literally the "Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing" of vtubers
Which is what she wants, to be fair. Effort is hard. Way easier to just leverage a following after someone else does the legwork.

>>53754840
Wait, I missed 1, maybe 2? I was only looking at sponsored streams that had a game played, but she also had a Bookwalker sponsorship, and there's a stream from August 27th 2021 that's labeled sponsored but I have no idea what the fuck it would be. Doesn't look like a game is played and it's the one where she had chat build her a phone case, so unless the company that builds them was sponsoring her I have no idea. So bump that up to 13, possibly 14 sponsorships.

>>53754840
>>53755904
based autist fact checker

>>53745351
Pretty much.
All they do are CONs. They don't even find enough sponsorshps and more activities other than streaming.
3D? Nope
Online concert? Nope
Offline concert? BIG Nope
Actually recruiting raising Vtubers? Nope, just nepohire.
Hell, the biggest thing Kson even gained when she won the Yakuza competition. And it's not even Vshojo made event.
Mouse is trying to create an award show, but I think it will be just another circlewank full of nepowankers.

Hate to say this, Myhic actually did a good job even when I hate Asmon

>>53745687
Yeah, she even said that her Hololive's 40% merch share when she was Coco was actually her best share. She openly said that if someone offered her better share she will bail Vshojo. She probably bring Pikamee with her too.

>>53757313
>3D
Every member of VShojo except for Henya has a 3D model, and most of them have multiple. And the only reason Henya doesn't have one is because she debuted so recently. She's got one in the works.
>Online concert
This only happens if the talent wants it. Mouse got one because she wanted it. Most of VShojo aren't into singing or doing concerts.
>Offline concert
As in something that people can see in person? Mouse was the headlining act at Offkai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwstevSFZ8o and there's been other small scale concerts she's done at cons. Including Offkai last year which wasn't recorded and the only footage is from someone in the crowd who recorded it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2FtNe_X1oU

>>53754942
Yeah I'm sure a large portion of those people are to see a british guy with a podcast missing two of its members

>>53757398
she said hololive's was 50% and that's worse than what she gets in vshojo.

>>53757651
Mouse & Nyan also had a concert at San Japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA8tsafpk0I

nevermind shes fucking the heads of one of the biggest MCNs in the game. god youre fucking retarded OP

>>53757970
Wrong one

>>53757651
That bit about 3D models reminds me of someone at /vsj+/ who tried to count how many 3D models some people had. Mouse has at least 9 3D models available for her to use at any time. Zen had 54 at the time, but since then has debuted 3 more.

>>53757651
There's also a video of her doing Offkai this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwstevSFZ8o

>>53757826
Still better than 2%

>>53745351
I stand with Silver!

Didn't they explicitly say that vshojo puts all their chips in ironmouse to the detriment of other girls?

>>53754341
>crypto.com
This is an old image.

>>53758588
>spoiler
But
Why

>>53760030
Talent freedom = getting new models and outfits anytime you feel like it instead of once or twice a year at the company's discretion. Mouse has always talked about treating new models as changes of clothing since they're how people see her as a vtuber.
>>53760000
Originally posted July 3rd. >>/vt/image/jQizItwuR8M4/UivWYU7qA

>>53760030
I mean is not actual models "models" as people know them, just mostly costumes. There's technically just a few base models, and the variants are just Zen wearing a Banana Costume, Zen wearing a Zombie costume, a space shit, bla bla bla.
Basically, outside of 2D, there's technically only 3 models: Dragon, Cyborg and Geeko

>>53760191
If you don't want to count costumes then it's 6 for Zen. Commander, Dragon 1.0, Dragon 2.0, Cyborg, Gecko, and a Chibi model that everyone got for VShojo's second anniversary.

>>53745351
Who?????

Watch out for girls in vtubing that look like they're being used which is what it is in the new world order. The identification of the true believer woke types from the good ones stick out to you more and more.
As you learn they're built to fall in an internet filled full of bright light sided intent. When I have a time and place to achieve another moment in her channel, you'll hear it.
Til' then.
Cheerio

>>53745351

>>53754607
>Join Vshojo
>Doesn't get the shit that every single 4view indie gets
>Still got to give them a cut tho

>>53745351
It helps when your bf is the owner of your talent management agency. Since he can funnel as many sponsor deals as she wants.

>>53754840
From november 2020 to november 2021 silver only got 1 sponsor. So the anon is actually right about her not having a sponsor for 1 year lol

>>53762667
Asmon is not her bf. Stop being retarded.

>>53762667
Uhm connor raid mouse constantly like they in relationship or something. Without him we wouldn't watch her.

>>53762338
she got visibility out of it she no longer has, her ccv has dropped 1/3 since leaving, despite desperate raid attempts by asmon
also
>figure
she was pissy other girls were getting goodsmile figures that she doesn't have the numbers for, and she still doesn't, which is why she has to settle for novel horizon
>sponsors
she also got sponsors but I'm not about to engage in some subjective quantifier of "that she loves"
>cups and a shirt
vshojo sold apparel and such, they had a whole store for her

>>53762338
ogey

>>53763862
>she got visibility
She was already a 4view when she joined. Vshojo was literally a child, that didn't have any visibility to give
>she was pissy other girls were getting goodsmile
Not really a argument.
>she also got sponsors
This is true, but she got didn't got sponsors for a entire year almost after joining. 1 sponsor from november 2020 to dezember 2021.
>cups and a shirt
I'm not talking about regular merch, I talking specifically with brands collabs like gamersups. It took Vshojo 20 months to get a AdvancedGG cup for Silver.
>TLDR
Vshojo works because of the talent. The manegement team is clearly incompetent and this isn't debatable (she's literally still listed in their store lmao)

>>53764629
Or Silvervale is just a bad product

>>53757398
>She probably bring Pikamee with her too.
I doubt they don't have her locked in a contract. You can bet she's not keeping the Henya model or channels either.

>>53764166
That's really cool, but did you know that girls got payed once and is not getting any money from the purchases of their skin ? Cool idea, terrible deal.

>>53754844
Okay, but consider: Merry's lore videos suck.

>>53764924
numberpagpag moment

>>53763862
>despite desperate raid attempts by asmon

This was the first fucking time he's raided her in months, fuckhead. Go shill your fanfic someplace else.

>>53764775
Is she? She already got sponsored twice after leaving, so the "brand unfriendly" argument is already dead. She was one of the best merch sellers on Vshojo, she has extremelly loyal viewers and avarage 2.6-3k ccv. Now without any biases or rrats, explain to me how is this a bad product?

>>53764775
Vei has always been a chihuahua's butt-hair away from having a Heated Gamer Moment on stream, and she got a Pop-Up Parade statue before Silver. And that's with Silver being an actual founding member of VShojo (Vei joined months later). How's Vei any less a worse product than Silver?

>>53745351
Obviously retard.
Not like we said this from the start of anything.

>>53754341
So your pre mouse reps anon

>>53757651
As far as we are aware they pay for their own models anon

>>53764629
Zen's explained how they handle sponsorships at VShojo in the past. They get offered them as they come in, and it's up to the talent whether or not they take the sponsorships. Zen's done so few because of being really picky with the ones they accept. Silver may have been the same and changed her mind after a year, or maybe the way vtubers as a whole were viewed changed after that first year since not many people were getting them. Regardless that means the 13 sponsorships she took were all in her second year, so she got plenty of them.
>Cups
That's because they weren't doing any vtuber cups for ages. It might sound like it took a long time but in the grand scheme of things she was unironically one of the first to get one. Even after a quick search just now the only ones I can see who came before her were Zen, Giri, and Shylily. And both Zen and Giri were within a 2 week period so they were basically at the same time.

Basically it looks like you've just got a victim complex and are ignoring that this stuff that took VShojo "forever' to get Silver were things that almost nobody got before her. Much like PC cases and the novel Horizons figures these things typically needed someone else to open the doors in the case of the cups it looks like it was Shylily and once they were open it became an opportunity available to many more people.

>>53765480
All that a company would care about is how much they think they could sell, and when you look at Vei's CCV she's easily double Silver's at her best. As high as triple on a good day. That's what matters to a company signing a contract for a figure, and it's why only Nyan and Mouse also worked with Goodsmile (for now).

>>53751976
Why would you even argue that # of sponsors is an indicator in any way?
If Silvervale gets sponsored by a crypto scam, a kusoge mobile game and a gambling website afterwards does that count as +3 and how well she's doing?

>>53745351
>So she wasn't the problem after all.
never was

>>53745351
cool story

>>53757826
>She said Hololive was 50%
Post clip for evidence

>>53771079
no

>>53771099
Wow, a honest liar. That's a contradiction lol

>>53771146
>i missed one of the biggest shirtstorms ever on this board, that means you are tellin a heckin lie
just serach 50% in the archives you lazy fucking retard don't reply to me again

>>53745351
Pic source?

>>53771194
Heh, I bet 50% is just another made up number
So far the only legit one is Niji 2% merch thanks to confirmation from two livers and 40% Holo merch from Kson

>>53773677
https://twitter.com/ksononair/status/1656314005458411521

>>53773677
>>53773747
Although she was not talking about holo

>>53764166
cool

>>53745351
froot is the problem