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>>53708583
moron
watch streams

polka my decent gaming skill wife
http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/645b5dcbcb664-backward-long-jump-far-away.php

>>53708583
>Kaela

I don't give a fuck about their gaming skill I just watch them being cute

>>53708583
Kaela is impressive at spending a lot of time on a game. I haven't watched that much of Kaela but she did poorly in Mario Kart. I sceptical of her skills. Marine should be tier higher. Nene higher than Gura? Gura is mid at Mario Kart and decent at Rythem games. Nene is worse than her in both.Gura us at least Average.

>>53708583
Noel's pretty good at games although she also gets back seated a lot so take that as you will.

>>53708583
>korone bad
Kys

>>53708810
very nice

>>53708583
>>>roboco
watch streams unironically
towa should be there not that dogshit robot

>>53708583
>roboco good
watch streams you fucking retard

>>53708583
Kiara is one of the top-tier gamers in Hololive by virtue of actually beating games.

>tfw people post >le watch streams when we're dealing with ~60 streamers
Good shit.

>Choco
>decent
Lol, lmao even

>>53708583
Kaela in impressive.
Alerted of pag pag.
>flush

t. clipwatcher

>>53710717
if you’re gonna post a tierlist of every hololive member especially on something that can be pretty objectively measured you should do you reps even if its for 5 mins on a channel

>>53710816
I didn't post it.
Why is this place such a fucking crab bucket?
Instead of going
>watch streams
why not explain what the fuck you're talking about.

Not only will it be more fun but it would make this place so much less miserable.

>>53710897
>post a tier-list that doesn't make sense
>get called out for not watching streams
>cry like a bitch
Maybe you should watch streams

>>53708583
>Kaela
>impressive
>>53710897
Some conversations are not worth having when the discrepancy in knowledge is too high

>>53710946
I didn't post it.

>>53710949
There's 50 fucking girls up there. No one has the time to watch all of them. You have the power to add information and instead you choose to this:
>kaela
>impressive
as if that fucking means ANYTHING at all.

>>53710634
Shut up Sio.

>>53710993
Then OP shouldn't have posted an image claiming that he has information when he obviously doesn't

>>53709586
NPC tier behaviour
>>53710634
>>53710643
Fuck off sio

>>53708583
>roboco pretty damn good
What?

>>53708583
As much as I like Sora have you actually watched any of her mario streams - I know she said that she isnt good with platformers but by god describing her skills as "average" is just incorrect

I love my autistic gaming-disabled owlshi

>>53708583
terrible bait

>>53711300
How dare I simply enjoy watching cute chuubas instead of treating them like eSports gamers

>>53711800
It's dumb to watch them as simple minded entertainment though. Vtubing is about more than just being cute or whatever you actually need to be good at games otherwise you should be fired.

>>53710520
korone is bad at games, she has 40 hour marathon streams to beat games that should take like 10 hours. marine also mogs her every time they do challenges

>>53708583
What game is Nene good at? she is worse than Gura at Mario Kart and Rythym games. Gura is at least average. Marine should be a tier higher.

>>53711953
Megaman? Korone is playing around the average. Sometimes she's better, sometimes she's worse. Also she played extremely well in SF6.

>>53712106
go look up how long it took her to beat ghouls n ghosts

>>53712293
You mean the notoriously difficult retro game?

>>53708583
Okayu used to be a Mario 64 speedrunner. You need mad skills to be able to even do that. I don't think it's fair to say she's average.

>>53708583
okayu, mr koro and pekooora should be higher

>>53708583
Polka in decent?!? How? In MC I guess she is decent but most other games...
Im sorry I love my fennec wife but not even I can say with a straight face that she is a decent gamer

>>53712578
But Korone aint a good gamer?
She got an almost unbendable will and stuborrness and she will proceed to headbutt an obstacle for 9 hours if needed to just to progress.

Doesnt make her a good gamer though, she beats many games by sheer will and determination, not skill.
And I don't try to talk badly of her, those headbutting-streams can be amazing to follow as she slowly but surely beats it.

I don't watch ID but thier MK8 tournament performance make them look like they're trash at videogames.

>>53709586
based
>>53711300
Nice projection. Shitting your pants and crying because the streamer isn't gaming as good as you can is peak NPC behavior.

>>53708583
you watch EN shitters so your opinion is immediately discarded

>>53708583
Kaela is not actually good at games she just has a very particular form of autism that lets her derive pleasure from mind raping levels of grind.

>>53713333
I mean its a low bar because women, Aqua isnt actually good at games either but she will autistically grind until she gits gud which makes her better than any other holo like Botan who just lies about her talent

>>53708583
Suishill is only good in one game like your grandma would be if she played that for many years and grinded the shit out of a casual racing game. She's not generally good at games.

>>53708583
most glaring mistake is Matsuri/Towa below RBC

>>53712106
>Also she played extremely well in SF6.
She got beaten by other opponents in the beginner bracket

>>53708583
yooo this shits bussin fr fr no cap. mind if I repost this on the subreddit? i'll credit you

>>53708583
most of this doesn't make any sense, and more will make no sense if you change the game genre, like Suisei being god at tetris, but having troubles with most 3d games because bad vision, Ina being trash at mario tournament, but being top tier healer on FFXIV, Kaela being unbeatable in anything grind based, but going average on everything else. And Choco being that high by what i've seen is laughable.

>>53710993
>I didn't post it.
Don't care. I'm blaming you anyway. Watch streams btw.

>>53711953
Korone didn't beat R-Type 1.
But neither did you.
7-2 is hard as fuck.

>>53713516
Obvious bait thread

>>53708583
putting vsinger RAINBOLT that low...

>Choco
Which fucking game, anon?? What stream did you watch to make you think she isn't dogshit at every game?

>>53708583
Move Mori up the decent and Fauna up to good.

>>53713580
Naw senpai. This ain't it chief. You no cap gon' get downvoted fr if you post that shit.

>nobody refuting that all ENs are at the bottom
Further proof that you ENsharts have such sorry excuses for streamers...

>>53714213
I am, see >>53714181

>>53714213
I did, I questioned ids gaming skills based in thier terrible MK8 results.

>>53711890
It's nice knowing you will never be hired to run a company

>>53713426
>Botan who just lies about her talent
Botan has always been a western FPS fan, even before she was a Holo.

>>53708583
>ame
AME LOVE but 'decent' is an overrate

>>53708583
Ayame is one of the best fps gamers in hololive
shes at least decent

Didn’t fauna sweep in that Mario tournament? She should be a tier higher or at least best decent.

Nene couldn't even figure out the walking controls in stardew valley

>>53708583
>Flare
>Bad
What???
She aint the sweatiest gamer but I wouldnt call someone that pretty effortlessly breezes through soulsborne games as "bad"

I don't care about their gaming skills because the overwhelming majority of modern games are recycled shit

>>53714689
She finished the level b4 any other had gotten to the halfway checkpoint, it was a major sweep even

>>53714213
EN being bad at games is a meme. Fauna and IRyS carried team B in the Mario Maker tournament, Gura placed 3rd in a global MK tournament and was pretty good at Rust, Mori and Fauna are the best in all of Hololive at JK and GOI respectively, Kronii is GOATed at party games, Fauna won an EN/ID Pokémon luckshit tournament, Mumei was genuinely one of the best Holocure players in Hololive for a time, and Bae is good at rhythm games.

>>53711890
And this is why you are still a wagecuck instead of being a rich CEO

IRyS is literally one of the gamers on EN and it should be with Fauna or if you are really picky at least with Ina, Kaela is just good at grinding, but she's average in the borderline of bad (watch pizza tower to see how IRyS in a type of game that she touched for first time gets to a good level and Kaela...). For the rest in some way I can see it, maybe Mori one up. I'm gonna call you a retard anyways just in case

>>53708583
Rushia unintentionally did a Megaman 2 buster only run and cleared several bosses

>>53714689
Her Internet when out, she just played one level. IRyS carried her team

>IRyS
>bottom tier
Anyone who did the disappearing blocks part in Mega Man 2 without cheesing it belongs in at least decent

>>53708583
Never make a thread again, retard clipwatcher.

>>53708583
>Putting Kaela that high, when what she does is grind for the most part
Garbage list

>>53708583
>Roboco
lol

>>53715355
Endurance is a talent.

>>53708583
Fauna has the best GOI speedrun in both Hololive and Nijisanji, destroyed other holomen in mario maker trials, consistently shows she can pick up games and show competency within a short time... but only decent. Are you an FPSfag by any chance?

I exclusively watch the "holy shit you're bad" and lower so I can watch the chuubas seethe and mald.

>>53713230
>a-actually you're the npc for wanting a person that play videogames for living being decent at videogames!
Also stop samefagging

>>53708583
shit list

Botan Marine Aqua Okayu Suisei for Jp, Ina Irys Fauna for En
Korone Kaela while really love to play game is not a good gamer

>>53708583
Haachama should be lower for anything not Minecraft, bunnyman or getting over it

>>53714140
ARK

>>53708583
lol you might not even watch enough clips let alone watch streams. Lurk A LOT before trying this shit newfag.

>>53715836
Switch Ina with Kronii. Kronii is sneaky good at competitive games, she just doesn’t show it off that often because she prefers indie kusoges.

>>53714921
Being good at one game doesn't make you a good gamer. It's should be based off multiple games and game types.

>>53708583
Aqua shouldn't be anywhere but impressive, Rushia's very good at splatoon, Ayame's pretty damn good at valorant, Matsuri's just average.

>>53715622
And as bad as she is at Hitman, she also plays the most difficult mode of all time. (Freelancer hardcore.) With a fucking controller no less.
Seriously, it's a miracle she made past the first showdown. I dare any other Holo to do the same live on stream. Even Botan only played story mode, which is for babies by comparison.

>>53712954
Korone plays a tons of old die-and-retry, where the only way to progress is to die a lot to learn the patterns of what the game will throw at you.

>>53716059
I'm fine with basing it on either multi-game or single game excellence, but OP did neither and just threw darts at a board and turned it into a tierlist

>>53708810
>>53708583
>polka
>decent

>>53711105
>anon wrestles with the concept that the world is not perfect and that it is better to make use of your own ability to improve upon it rather than impotently rage at the existence of imperfection, even after having the concept explained to him directly

>>53715435
The list is about skill though...

>>53716059
I would genuinely take Fauna to beat anyone Hololive in one of those Ludwig multi-game challenges.

>>53716059
OP literally based Kaela on the list from being good (read: grinder) in MC...

>>53708583
>Aqua below anyone else.

How much of a newfag must you be? Aqua literally becomes top tier at any games she puts some effort into.

God gamer
Aqua

Good gamers
Suisei, Marine, Towa, Botan, Okayu, Korone

Rest don't matter

>>53716784
Name even one impressive gaming feat by Korone.

>>53716784
Fbk is actually good though

>>53716816
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKYAFe0AReQ

>>53708583
u a batty man

>>53716816
She is good at SF6 for someone new to fighting games, good at Splatoon, beats retro games without save states.

>>53716891
Foob has stropped trying like 3 years ago. She plays most games in EZ mode and makes a point of not try harding when she joins a holo tournament.

>>53716784
>Good gamers
>Korone
You only watch clips of her right?

>>53708583
> Kaela
She is painfully average or even below. But with autism which makes her stream even more painful to watch.

>>53716400
I don't know if I'd go that far, Aqua has turbo autism with games she plays. People know about her FPS abilities, but she was also playing competitive mario maker (yes, that exists) and was queuing in with "pros" (yes they also exist)
If I were only taking EN games, it'd be either Fauna or IRyS. I consider both in the same tier.

>>53717138

>>53710520
Korone is the equivalent of running into a door until it breaks. She's persistent, but usually not very good.

>>53716784
Towa is okay at best, if anything I she need variety in her game choices to see if she actually a good gamer. did she finished her hollow knight gameplay?
If Korone is good then Kanata is also good.

>>53713426
>Aqua isnt actually good at games either
She actually is, she handicaps herself with stupid rules and being an autistic onion.
Kaela performance in MK should just tell who real are her skills
>>53708583
Also
>Azki
>bad
When she just has a shitty PC.

>>53713326
Shoo last samurai

>>53713426
You can't get as good at apex or league as she did through sheer effort

>>53717294
Personally I think patience is part of gaming skill but obviously it shouldn't be the only factor. She is still decent enough at games, really comes down to how much she cares about actually getting better at a particular game.

>>53717335
in the rhythm game competition they had towa solo carried her team, and is consistently a top performer in other games like mario kart or whatever that arises

>>53717232
>three years between both runs
>not even the same version of the game

The gold pot wasn't even a thing when Aqua played that gmae.

>>53717563
it was actually

>>53717543 (me)
and no she never finished hollow knight because backseaters pissed her off

>>53716347
have you watched streams yet

>>53708583
Rushia used to speedrun Dark Souls like a professional, so she shouldn't be that low.
Korone has beaten more difficult games than anybody there.
Aqua and Botan are good only at FPS games and nothing else.
Kaela isn't even good at games. Possibly even worse than everyone in Kiara's tier list. She's only good at grinding. She play games like it's work.

>>53717737
>Korone has beaten more difficult games than anybody there.
On twice the avg playthrough time.
Your point being?

Given enough time I could teach my actual dog to beat some games, I still wouldnt call him a decent gamer.

Ahem.
>First to beat Minecraft hardcore mode solo, on her first try no less
>Used to regularly speedrun fucking Sekiro, a game that gives most Holos pause
>Top 5 in Mario Kart company tourneys regularly, usually a bit higher than that though
>Did well in recent Mario Maker tourney, won I think?
>One of the very few to reach Elite Rank in Smash Ultimate
>2nd RTA record in Going Up currently (I think?), beat it with no slow mos. Beat Pekora in a race live with little effort
>2nd in Jump King
>3rd in Getting Over it

APEX SECTION:
>Second to get to Masters in Hololive, did it solo while Matsuri had a 3stack though
>Considered by Shibuya Hal himself to be at or near Predator level
>Unquestionably the best in Hololive at Apex; did more damage and had more kills during her Masters run than Matsuri did and Botan has never revealed her power level
>Admittedly did bad her first and only showing at a tourney though

So there's all that, and there's probably some other stuff I'm missing too. The only things we don't have a good read on is games she hasn't gone back to, like the Jump King DLC, or hasn't tried like Elden Ring. Otherwise, she has a incredibly broad range of success in multiple genres. While admittedly she probably won't beat others at their specialties (Suisei in Tetris, Okayu in Mario 64, Foobs in Phasmo, etc.), she just has a broader skillset overall and quickly adapts to any new games easily. I sincerely think she could easily master any game she ever felt like mastering, like SF6, Valorant, Elden Ring, Tekken, whatever if she simply applied herself.

>>53717737
>Aqua and Botan are good only at FPS games and nothing else.
Aqua is good at a large number of games although again, she has to go through her autism grind to get there. Shes just about average in natural skill, which still places her very high among most women
Botan is not even good at FPS, she just lies about men carrying her in the past

>>53718100
There's a thing called skill ceiling

>>53708752
Please put Korone in the "passion gaming" section

>>53718090
>did bad in her first tourney
She kind of annihilated everyone in scrims though

Competitive Apex is nothing like ranked Apex anyway

>>53708583
Jesus christ OP, I only just realized you put IRyS in the bottom tier
I'm not even asking you to watch a stream, at least watch a clip before placing someone. Or add a "I have no fucking clue" category

>>53718137
yes shes better at maximizing hers than almost any other woman and the vast majority of men, she does autistic things like grinding Kovaaks to improve FPS aim, allowing her to approach her ceiling much quicker than an average gamer would
skill caps really only come into play in the top 1% of gaming, anyone who has basic functioning motor skills and a brain can get to that level with enough game knowledge and experience in their one game before hitting the limits of reaction speed and thought processing. Aquas talent is once she goes into an autism grind she is able to close the gap to that level fairly quickly, most retards will invest thousands of hours spamming a game without getting better at it because they dont evaluate what theyre doing wrong. This is of course fine because games are supposed to be fun, not autism grinds where you still end up worse than esports faggots who have that better reaction speed and processing anyway

>>53718090
>>53718090
>Used to regularly speedrun fucking Sekiro,
not just that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1cGlAQhLOE

You need to be an ultra newfag to think the onion isn't a cut above the other holos.

>>53715793
They don't play games for a living, they entertain for a living. My favorites could just do zatsus or stream literally anything that's not a video game and it wouldn't change a thing for me

>>53713426
>Botan who just lies about her talent
Botan does decent medium-pro level plays in western FPS where most other girls of the tierlist would scream and punch their monitor when shot at in aforementioned games

>>53718613
I miss this gaming onion... I still believe in her return

>>53708583
Now make one for gaming taste

>>53717543
And that was what make her okay at best until more games played. Because for every top performances she had there were GOI and average apex gameplay to balance things out.

>>53717737
>Aqua and Botan are good only at FPS games and nothing else.
Wrong.

>>53718750
She's beaten GOI and she's decently above average in APEX, she isn't to Aqua's level, but she is good by all means, if compared to pros, no, but then no one on this list is good at games.

>>53717012
She got a better time at only up speedrun than aqua

>>53718607
d1 in league and pred in apex are both far above the 1%

>>53716059
Specialists stand out more though. Someone like Suisei is more respected as a gamer since she has a proper niche where she’s godlike in compared to someone like Sakamata who’s just mediocre - decent at most things.

>>53708583
Whoa whoa whoa, hold the phone!! This tier list is bullshit. I've tuned in to a few of Kaela's streams and she's not impressive, she just never sleeps. For example she's like silver 4 in WR when I last checked and people asked her why she sucks so bad (trying to 1v4 as a support and dying instantly multiple times) and she said "I dun car, ed not c-reous." Next up, Kobo and Towa should be one tier higher. Ame and Fauna should be one tier lower and Zeta should be two tiers lower. Reason being Ame isn't actually good at games, she just moves her mouse around a lot but the moments have no purpose. Fauna isn't good at anything, she just makes a schedule and sticks to it. That makes her more reliable than 99% of hololive members, but in terms of actual game skill outside of GOI, she has nothing. Mating press Zeta every time she misses a shot. Next up, how the fuck can you put Gura in bad tier? Yes, she sucks at most games, so does everyone in hololive. But she's cracked at rhythm games and pvp horror games. So if you can put Fauna in "decent" tier when she can only play GOI, how is Gura not there, too? And Kronii???? Kronii is just like Fauna in competitive spirit and far surpasses her in reliability. If you invite Kronii to play ANY game with you in a tournament, give her a day and she'll have put 69 hours into learning all of the ins-and-outs. Lastly, fuck you for the IRyS placement. I now realize this tier list was made by someone who doesn't watch streams. Every collab and tournament IRyS has been in she has gone in the underdog and came out top 4. She won the most recent MM tournament single handedly where Fauna got two sweepy two stway awayke. Fix your list, mothah truckah.

>>53708583
meru..

>>53708583
Everyone always forgets that Gura is actually good at rhythm games.
>>53717294
Which is the attitude you need to beat the retro games that she plays.

>>53719190
Look at this person kids and remember, stay in school.

>>53718891
Not an achievement because both have tons of room for improvement, know it, and don't care to try. Those times are not a statement regarding their skills.

>>53719081
>pred in apex
doesn't require outstanding skills, it requires to have no life.

>>53708583
How many of them could beat the original super Mario bros?

>>53719081
Shes not predator in apex though, one dude puffing her up for numbers in his tournament said she could get there if she played team queue but she doesnt so we'll never know
Idk about her League rank since he mostly played that shit on bili, is Dia1 even accurate? Whats the equivalent in Dota? D5? Immortal? You can get to Immortal in Dota without actually being skilled but then you cap out basically right after that and cant climb the leaderboard. I'd say Aqua's skill is around that level in any game she dedicates herself to, although it is certainly impressive she is able to do that in multiple games/genres - most people can only really reach it in one niche if at all

And mio is not that low op, korone maybe the worst in gamers about skill while maybe the one who love game the most

>>53719372
Probably all. The question is how long would it take

>>53719379
multiple people said she's pred material and d1 back then is basically grandmaster nowadays, idk what it means in dota terms though

>>53719372
I recently asked a chuuba which was more challenging between Mario 3 and Dark Souls (I was relevant because she had recently played both). She said Mario 3 and it was no contest. The chat erupted with disbelief but I doubt many of them have actually played both games

>>53719369
>>53719379
yes this is basically what I am saying, if you nolife any game you can eventually get to like Immortal in Dota or at least the achievement Aqua hit in Apex (Solo Master when it was hard), the vast majority of people just arent going to autistically grind action cancels or play training modes solely to improve their aim and have to put in thousands of hours of gameplay to make those same improvements instead (well mobas were a bad example because everyone does do this, but you get my point)
and she did have to nolife Apex

>>53719636
DS is only that hard while u completly blind play, not knowing even 1 thing about the game before, which is impossible if the one u ask play recently

>>53719636
>no save available so you need to finish the game in one sitting
>limited continues
No shit it's harder.

>>53718849
She beat GOI with advice from other holo after stuck at one place for a long time. And for someone who focused a lot on fps (I think she played more apex than any other holomem) she should come close already to on-off player like aqua. Look she is not bad and she is not your average gamer girl either but overall, she is not good (yet), because at hololive girls level she never dominates at least one game (like Okayu, Marine and Suisei did).

>>53719845
GOI was more of mental support from Mio, not actual advice from her.
And Towa is good at Apex and other FPSes, plus is naturally good at every other game she picks up. She isn't the best in the games she plays, but she is good at the games she plays, if that isn't "good at games" for you, and you're speaking purely as the best of the best, then no, she isn't, but for a natural talent at games, Towa definitely has that.

>>53719780
>and she did have to nolife Apex
She has not. Aqua has a day job. Being a pred is an endurance race where you need to play something like 16+ hours a day for 3 months because the amount of points required to remain among the top 750 keeps getting higher and and higher. You could win every single game you play with 20 kills, if you only play 2 hours a day the gap will only grow larger. It's a grind.

>>53708583
Half of them cant even visualize 3d space and look around with a mouse what the fuck is this list

>>53718090
to add there
>No hit Ishin (sekiro)
>Speedrun darksouls 1
>Speedrun minecraft, but since a lot of RTA other holomem do are on different versions there's not much to compare
>Got perfect score on every level on rhythm heaven
>S rank in Mario maker
>Master ball rank on Pokemon Sword and Shield

>>53719920
Mentality is half of the gameplay of GOI, that's why a friend to calm you down is a good help. And I get your point, but she is not at the same level as Okayu co. in "natural talent at games" as she never dominates a game like the rest on (I assume) your Good gamers list.

>>53719845
Towa is weak-minded and crumbles easily against the frustration. That is the reason why she never stands out in anything even when you can see sparks of brilliance in her.

>>53720049
you dont know the history, I have watched her since the first Diamond push
she took a year off streaming after failing solo master from multiple 10 hour streams where she played like a rat then came back as a big dick ultra aggressive fragger who would bum rush and 1v3 entire teams cruising her way to Master in like 10 hours total
obviously if a chuuba with other responsibilities "got Pred" they wouldnt maintain it, she'd do it when it was easiest (right after a reset) just like she would always go for the other ranks when it was easiest (end of a season when all the shitters are playing)

>>53708583
Mumei is objectively the best holocure player and a top FPS holo.

>>53720505
That's fair in the case of GOI, but still it's not like she was bad at it. Towa is definitely at the level of Okayu co. of being naturally talented at the games she plays. She's never really played rhythm games yet she was the reason her team won in the hololive rhythm game competition. She's usually the one mentoring people in the games they play when she's playing with others, she is good at games. She's not typically the best in her field, but there's no reason to say she's only "okay" at them, she's always above average compared to other holos.
It's not my list though.

>>53708583
I bet Pekora's E.Honda could beat you in SF6

>gura above pekora
You need a minimal IQ level to partake on 4chan, OP-kun.

Would probs get mogged by Stars anyway lol

Inb4 "they no Hololive reeeee"

>>53721120
Gura is a god at rhythm games and also good at stealth objective games

how are the worst bait threads in this board getting bit?

>>53708583
anon has no hololive knowledge it seems

>>53720777
Which rhythm game Towa won again? because I thought Marine's team won the taiko one.

>>53708583
>Takanashi "The Golden Path" Kiara
>sucking at videogames
choose one

>>53721463
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ordk4xfoNmE

>>53721487
>Takanashi 'had a live meltdown because she can't finish a Zelda game on stream' Kiara

I know people here don't watch streams, but did OP just picked girls at random?
Baffling thread.

>>53721591
If having meltdowns made you bad at video games, Aqua would be the worst player in Hololive.

>>53721673
You left out the part of not being capable of finish the game.

>>53721710
name a single EN who finished more games than Kiara

>>53721710
Kiara is bad at action games, but you perfectly know it was because of her "I must finish every game on stream in time" autism rather than an actual skill issue.

>>53721767
So, does she is like Kaela? Just a grind autist?

>>53711720
The thing with Sora is she's both great and awful compared to the rest. That's why she did "ok" in the MK tourney and won the challenge Mario course.

>>53719435
She said the same thing about Elden Ring and all of the other Souls-like games
>>53719835
She was saving her game the entire time. It took her like 10 streams to finally "beat
it

>>53717737
>Aqua and Botan are good only at FPS games and nothing else

I bet you're a newfag who never seen the glory days of Aqua Gaming era.
Speedrunning souls games and high ranked in a lot of competitive games from various genre...
Being super good after nolife-ing a game is normal, but being good at a lot of them while doing idol shit. Now that's amazing.

>>53724604
>Being super good after nolife-ing a game is normal
But that's what Aqua was doing. She was afraid people would stop watching her if she wasn't the "gamer-maid of Hololive" and spent all her time training off-stream. She's the kind of person who will pretend she's playing something for the first time despite having already unlocked the games achievements.
She only started slowing down on that after the infamous menhera Mario Kart incident and then focused plainly on idol activities.

>>53726187
>But that's what Aqua was doing.
No, I get that. What I mean is that Aqua is not just 1 game streamer/gamer, no lifing only that certain game for years.
But she isnt like that, she is (or was) a variety game streamers, and managed to became good at all of the games she played after a whole lot of grind and practices.

>>53708583
Kaela only grinds, she can't build shit. Also they are girls, they suck at videogames and that's why I watch

>>53708583
IRyS isn't that bad. This list seems to be mostly just guessing at people the maker hasn't even watched.

>>53716784
Replace Korone with Fubuki and you'd be right.

>>53721710
Aqua never finished OOT...

post your oshi's best gaming moments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uydZpb_F7So

>>53728477
I'll never forgive the chinks for depriving us of more of this

>>53720763
>Best among the worst players on earth
Waow.

>>53708583
Suisei is pretty damn good at like 1 or 2 games and decent and most others if not bad. I think she should get bumped to Good.

>>53710478
I'll give her a good fucking backseating too...

>>53728477
https://youtu.be/OsJRkaIRFBM

>>53716994
A lot of people forget just how hard a lot of the retro games are. I’ve gone back to play a couple and they can be brutal.

>>53708583
Didn't Mio tie in for second place in this year's MK tourney?

>>53708583
>Botan and Kaela
Top tier bait post

>>53719190
Ame beat Gabriel in ultrakill in max difficult, the sun station, elden ring with a meme build that she created by herself etcetctetc and she at least has a decent level + gaming sense in any type of game, comparing to anyone in holoEN she's by far the best gamer there. The comparisson with Gura rhythm games and Fauna GOI, it's fair, I would put her in the place of Ina, and maybe Ina with Fauna and Ame, the problem is that Gura ultra sucks in any other type of game and Fauna is at least average-bad in other games, but she tries to tryhard to become good, Gura doesn't do that and she has talked about how every game should have a easy mode for casuals like her (except rhythm games). And the tier list putting IRyS at the bottom, yeah OP is a fucking retard when she deserves to be at least with Ina or Fauna

>>53719282
>Which is the attitude you need to beat the retro games that she plays.
she's really bad at games but still beat difficult ones by pure hardcore fucking grit, like banging your head against the wall to exit a room.

>>53708583
truthful tierlist
the only one that matters

>>53708583
You gotta move Iroha down, I love her but she is ASS at sekiro, she has been improving recently however.

>>53712954
are you stupid

>>53708583
cringe

>>53708583
Request toove kronii to decent
Any managment game she is very good at, but LIKE NINA sabitage herself for content
You can see it in her frost punk gamplay, too obious mistake and "errors", with Nina is Darkest dungeon, she even apologies TWISE to the same mistake because she forgot she already apologize to it -.-

>>53710816
How do you "objectively" measure a skill with so many categories?
I haven't seen Kaela be actually good at any video game, she just autistically grinds them.

>>53708583
>Sora
>Average
I would put her in the Decent tier. She won the Mario tournament after all.

>>53708752
fpbp

>>53734475
First time I've seen a tierlist where I disagree with nothing

>>53708583
>kaela
Lemao. I find the Ollie/Kaela feud laughable because Ollie literally mogs her while pemaloe, who are mostly an offshoot of Kobo's retarded audience, praise for holding the right mouse button

>>53708583
There are a few questionable issues with the tier list that are very obviously wrong. I'll only input the two that bother me most though.
Pekora can be surprisingly good in a Joker-esque kind of way. All the amazing feats I've witnessed with her comes out of random confidence where she herself doesn't even realize (I'm thinking mainly about the Rust arc where she took on the entire server really well).
Shion is pretty good at games when you compare her to all the other girls though she has an issue investing time in them. If it's a game she is relatively on the same plane of knowledge, then her ability is really seen.

Kaela should have her own tier and y'all know it....
We shall call it "get some help!"

>>53728477
https://youtu.be/lQPNjXLS1Ks?t=8388

>>53708583
Okayu has a sub-20 16 star time in Mario 64 which is decent, especially at the time she achieved it. Here's an example, she did a couple of no-resets one time and got a 20.38 so her PB level is obviously way higher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=693ypFbMJH0

Aqua is pretty cracked at Apex, genuine solo master. That's more impressive than anything Botan has done - Botan tries to protect her reputation as a god gamer by refusing to enter anything competitive, and the few times she has she's embarrassed herself. She went 0-3 in the recent CR Cup for example.

Marine's done a bunch of Touhou 1cc runs and is decent at Puyo. If you remember stuff like the Golden Week tourney she can pick up random stuff pretty well for holo standards as well

Kiara's not bad at games, pretty sure she beat the most in EN.

Her problem is she easily panics. When she was playing Elden ring she thought too much about it and tried taking 50 different pieces of advice from chat but when she was casually tangenting she bodied one of the enemies that give most new players problems. Don't shit talk my cute orange wife.

>>53711890
we literally have a wave called gamers you fucking retard. if they all had to be good at video games, we wouldn't have whatever the fuck azki and irys' vsinger project is or the billion groups yagoo tries making into marketable units.

>>53718090
>>53720477
If she does ER parry only, I'll kneel

>>53755975
>Botan tries to protect her reputation as a god gamer by refusing to enter anything competitive
It's funny how people keep bringing her name as one of the top Holo Apex player because she mentioned she reached Master on her debut, when she never showed that skill at all on stream.
I get that she's good at games, but thats it, she never really showed anything more than that.

>>53759582
>I get that she's good at games
*FPS games only, at the rest she's quite mediocre.

>>53708583
>called hololive gamers
>none of them are good gamers

>>53708583
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0zMS09JxK4
Put Sora in bottom tier

>>53734475
based

try to make a minecraft skill first or smth, this is bad

>>53708583
Your tier list is shit, you know nothing about these girls.
Anyway,
Aqua > everyone else.

>>53708583
>Pretty damn good
>Roboco
lol, lmao even

>>53708583
This list depends on what game they’re playing, rhythm gaming and survival horror? Gura . Puzzles and Tetris? Suisei, FPS? Botan, towa, aqua, etc.

Weird to rank them by one or two genre they’re shit at. However there are members who are shit at every game

(OP) I cannot believe I'm about to pull this shit off again. I'm on a roll with these threads kek

Gura only is shit at platformers (somehow) it’s weird because she’s shown she has insane reaction speed and her rhythm gaming pattern reads Carry over but she’s still dogshit at platforming

However she’s shown she can be good at anything when she actually gets competitive.

>>53731909
Is the bar really that low for EN? Watching Ame play any of the Mario games was physically painful because she wouldn't take 5 min to learn the basic movements of the games that 10 year olds can pick up in 30 minutes.

>>53711953
>>53712293
>>53713522
>>53713861
>>53712954
>>53715836
>>53716816
>>53717053
>>53717825
>>53719411
>>>/v/

>>53756115
She's bad because she sometimes doesn't pay attention to the games she's playing. I was watching her GTA 4 stream and I couldn't make it past the 3 hour mark because she got stuck on this 1 mission for 30 minutes because she was too busy reading chat. She talks over during cutscenes, ignores the tutorial, and then has the audacity to say that she doesn't know what she's doing. And KFPs still wonder why she hasn't increased in numbers.

>>53764889
Definitely something you can brag to your relatives eh, good for you

>>53716931
good for her

>>53710784
>He thinks he can hide his ESL by accusing others of ESL

It was actually painful to watch Kaela play Pizza Tower.
"Impressive."

>>53708583
EN speaking chuubas bias, game genre bias, Korone at bad..

Subaru manages to pull off some decent underleveled clears in the rpgs she plays before she powerlevels off stream
Also wasn't Ina really good at FFXIV? Being a top level sweat in a genre known for autistic optimization has to count for something

Here you go, I fixed it

>>53708583
The fact that there is an impressive tier automatically tells me you know nothing about good gaming

>>53764889
Your only achievement in life

>>53710816
5 minutes might not be conclusive.

>>53768678
Do rpgs even count? Subaru didn't play games before hololive and it shows. It's also part of her appeal though, because she actually likes games but didn't know it. A lot of her streams are classics that gamers have already finished.

>>53717639
>>53710946
>"watch streams!"
present a better argument.

Kronii's decent at the very least, I don't know how you can spin her winning pretty much every collab multiplayer game she's in as her being "bad."

>>53774255
If most "gamers" tell you to grind to at least level 12, preferably level 15, for a certain boss and she clears it at level 8 then yeah I think it counts

>>53776808
A lot of it is just luck though, I like rpgs as much as anyone, but I wouldn't consider it skill.

>>53708752
pachi

>>53765178
Why do koronesuki get triggered by literally fucking everything?

>>53708583
watch streams

>>53765058
If you actually watched the Mario Maker tournament you would know 90% of Hololive is just straight bad at platformers

>>53708752
Fpbp

>>53708752
Is it really a meme?