/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>53680878
My money is on Fubuki

Anyway, she most likely bought some bullshit rrat drama from an "insider", like she did with Korekore. The silence from the other Hololive members was more a way of saving face

>>53680878
she pissed off her manager, managers are gods at cover

>why did few members openly grieve something cover wanted to make disappear as quickly as possible
hmmmmmmmm
almost like the majority of talents who would have grieved publicly took one for the team so as to not spoil the atmosphere for their fans

>>53680878
>Fubuki.

Fuck, I meant to say Pekora. My bad there. Speaking of the fox

>>53681043
Why would you think its her?

>>53680878
Matsuri

>>53681280
Yeah but she's the good guy in all this. She acts like a menhera but she's loyal to Sora and Hololive and would root out a threat like Rushia.

>>53681047
This. Japanese managers are higher ranking than vtubers even if they are the ones that bring in the money. The entire situation with Mel's manager only went on for so long since management defended the manager every step of the way. Cover didn't change their corporate policy for no reason but since hololive got involved in a police investigation. Wouldn't look good if that happened a second time so there was a financial motivation to put some limits on personal managers.

>>53680878
She pissed the corpo and gold diggers will side with the corpo. Mori probably wasn't aware because 5%.
I have a personal rrat some higher up wanted her gone but couldn't get rid of her because she was the biggest money maker. she was "conveniently" axed little after Chloe debuted and became a similar caliber of a money maker as Rushia.

>>53680878
Rushia loved to collab with men

>>53680878
They were banned from being sad for her. Cover is a black company and I'm glad she no longer has to endure that environment. The others would quit fast if Cover wasn't threatening them with non-competes.

>>53680878
Friend has always been expressive when SHTF.
Remember Chammers/Coco?

Mori didn't really know Ru, so who knows why all her tears.

Chammers reached out, but more than one other Gen1 had serious issues with the top green menhera.

>>53680878
The one that “bullied” her Was confirmed to be matsuri
her managers and flare that she doxxed was also pissed at her

>>53685161
Mori has collabed with rushia before this happened and was planning to do a song together

OH MY GOD WE’RE TIME LOOPING AGAIN NOOOOOOoOoOO

>>53685468

>>53681047
>>53682711
you guys are retarded, japanese work in a senpai kouhai system, so unless their managers were hire first.

>>53685732
senapi-kouhai is based on who entered first rather than hierarchy?

>>53680878
Rushia refused to bow down and played her cards terribly, she tends to do this when she gets angry (menhera). Whoever the "senpai" that started all this had better connections and played their cards right. This is regarding the problem that started her fight with management and made her seek 3rd party to begin with. Most of her fans missed her and wanted her back regardless of the yab, I personally miss her and want her back and I'm not even a fan dead!

>>53680878
>The management.
As for why, let's just say she's morally right but wrong when it comes to business perspective.
Cover is all about money lol
>The senpai was just sucking the management dick to get preferential treatment.

>>53685868
yes it is a bullshit system, the guy before you can be a useless fuck, but since he was there first, he is assume to have more experience and do a better job, you have to treat them with respect. but if you pull something like Rushia, that isn't going to save you.

im just waiting for this unstable freak to be forced to issue an apology after losing the most avoidable court case in history

>>53685732
managers are above the talent. remember coco? remember vesper? managers are the talent's boss.

>>53685516
Collabing with someone doesn't mean she immediately knows her and is actual friends with her.

>>53685516
>>was planning to do a song together
ONE collab?
Oh, the lost career advancement...

>>53686042
Spreading unconfirmed rumors about your coworkers is not morally right.

Ayame hated her so much because she's supposed to be performing with her in 3rd FES.
but she messed up and take away Ayame's stage time, and wasted her time and effort on practicing instead of spending hours having sex with me.

>>53686660
they are doing their jobs, if you actually watch them you know their managers are constantly changing and don't stay the same one.

>>53680878
>So, who exactly did she piss off?
Her fans apparently. And mafumafu's yumes.

>>53685992
Whatever whichever senpai did or didn't, it was ONLY Ru-tan who *started* anything that leading to her termination.

She am the menherest.

>>53681156
>I meant to say Pekora.
What do you base this on?

>>53680878
She's also the most vocal against the sexual harassment inside the company.
She help Mel against her manager.

>>53688473
So the others are ok with sexual harassment since they didn't stand up for her?

>>53685378
I believe the flare since it would explain why she and Noel didn’t even say anything during the group stream where Pekora and Marine were really sad. I’d be pissed too.

>>53685378
Source?

>>53680878
The reason she was fired was for leaking things and breaking contract.
She said that some Apex loving Senpai had it out for her, and streamed over her. It's probably Aqua. And she is probably a sincere mentally unwell woman mad at a significantly autistic woman and imagining micro-aggressions.

>>53685468
I never knew what this says, can someone give a translation

>>53681280
everyone has fought with matsuri at least once, the girl is crazy.

My money is in management.

What... what year is it? Did we teleport back to early 2022?

>>53681121
She's still in Noel's room to this day.

Who cares? Michael is leaving Vshojo and revealing her new model in 5 days

ITT: schizo makes shit up to shit on cover

>>53688473
lol delusional motherfuckers here

Who cares about dead people

>>53680878
they should rehire her

>>53696360
Is that even possible lmao

>>53696360
Coco, before the green menhera.
Even Aloe or Sana, before that backstabbing whore.

>>53690756
>She said that some Apex loving Senpai had it out for her, and streamed over her
She never said this.

>>53694603

>>53696360
>rehire someone who has breached NDA, doxxed her colleagues and associates with the scum korekore
lol no

>>53687110
The least ESL fandead

>>53687069
Ima throw the biggest rrat and say the reason management got pissed at her is management was mafumafufags and thry got mad they got cucked by a green whore

Go donate and line her pockets she wouldn't be menhera if you took care of her and buy her merch, instead you constantly bring up the "good ol days" of her PL on /vt/ and that does absolutely nothing for her, majority of people view is as her fault.

Go back to >>>/vt/vshojo your friends are there, you need to develop a community there and support her in her new environment, Cover will never take her back.

>>53686660
Towa changed managers 3 times by 2021 and got 2 of those 3 managers replaced or fired.
Gen 5 got their original manager replaced. Lamy called her new (by then) manager to log on to watch her playing MC at 2:00 AM JST in middle of holidays (Golden Week) just because the elf decided to drink a bit too much
FBK told her manager to stay off when said manager just asked her to put the tweet siding with Coco down at the beginning of the Chink arc.
Even a doormat like Irys openly scold her manager in front of recording studio (justifiably, though).
etc. etc.
That's not how you treat your bosses. Upper management might be another thing, but the girls' managers are hardly above them.

>>53697512
Wtf you talking about she was top of the superchats when she left and people were buying her expensive ass actual engagement rings.

Also vshojo general never welcomed fandeads makes fun of keyfags and treat them like the schizos that they are

>>53697512
Vshojo hates Rushia though
She spends more time on Michael now and is getting a new model

>>53697551
Im starting to think that holo management is run by chinks rrat is true

>>53681047
Sound like a nijinig projection, we heard many time manager that incompatible with holomem got replace, you don't see this in other corp.

>>53698059
ESL

>>53697817
How

Are you a SEANIGGER? Cover literally tanked their Chinese branch for Coco.

>>53697551
towa’s on her 6th manager now which is just plain funny

>>53698384
Seanig and not buying this.

Nta tho

>>53698059
Yes, there are managers worst than Cover's see Tsunderia and Wactor, you'd know this if you spent less time skipping school going to the warnet and actually learning English.

>>53696895
She didn't dox anyone and doesn't deal with the fat fuck anymore

>>53697674
Wait its real what the fuck?

>>53699960
Nice cock. She even gift wrapped it for her fans

>>53681923
She really is the controlled opposition when you think about it.
Supposed big menhera and high risk, big controversies and always seemed like she's one day away from getting expelled. instead she stayed on while others graduated/ got fired.

>>53699960
damn she's hung

>>53684559
>They were banned from being sad for her.
All her genmates did a crying stream after she was fired.

>>53702482
Flare didnt

>>53697551
Or Shion constantly mocking her manager because she wants to elicit a reaction.

>>53697551
>That's not how you treat your bosses
It is when your bosses are retarded.

Black company

>>53704628
What about it?

Doing the extreme GFE was never going to last long. Attracting the worst schizos that will turn on you faster than the Chinese.
She couldn't avoid instigating drama outside of Hololive. Did she and Delutaya ever settle?

>>53699960
Skinny dick

>>53691902
basically says aqua senpai was bullying her because aqua was overlapping her stream at >her slot 6pm jst (aqua was doing a long apex challenge)

>>53702521
The news broke when Flare, Watame and Fubuki were streaming together. Chat started spamming about it and all 3 of them were incredibly stoic and emotionless when adressing it. Which is COMPLETELY unexpected in Watame's case.
Whatever she did, it must have been really fucking bad if Watame didn't instantly start crying.

>>53708534
How bad do you have to be for the crying sheep to not cry for you?
You tell the sheep that you spilled milk and she will cry. For you, and the milk's sake.
Rushia must've been so polarizing in hololive that only 2 out if her gen were visibly sad for her or even ever mention her at all anymore.
I believe the rrat that she'd threatened to dox the lot of them publically or to that dramatuber.
Easiest way to make every holo girl your enemy very quickly.

>>53680878
i feel like we'll never know unless another drama happens, which is something i wouldn't exactly look forward to

>>53708534
>>53709406
Dramasisters. Everyone on the JP side knew in advance
Watame said later that the Tambourine Club (her and Rushia) would never be disbanded. We know the NDA breach was showing ger communications with her manager to a third party during the Incident
Could you kindly stop repeating Day 1 speculation?

>>53686660
>remember vesper?
Not his fault that management can't hold a conversation using purely image macros the way we civilised types can.

>>53696484
it should be she would be great to have back

>>53697551
Their direct managers are essentially assistants

>>53696579
you're a whore

>>53696895
yes they should i don't care about any of that shit they should rehire her

>>53697551
>That's not how you treat your bosses
Want a fucking bet? Competent people can scold the shit out of their bosses. Superiors can't just magically act out of line, otherwise the issue escalates and the manager winds up answering to someone even higher up. Try getting a job sometime.

Being a holo manager must be stressful, constantly being the punching bags of the girls.

Therewasni beef with anyone. Korekore is a liar, you should know better than to believe him.
Also Delu started it that time

>>53710930
>OOF
haha no stop please fauna not the balls nooo
>POW
oowwww that hurt haha no please don't slap me and spit on me nooooo hahaha

>>53698766
Not many can stand the Towabuse.

>>53698766
>6 managers
>6 pregnancies
HMMMMM

>>53711136
Towa needs to stop impregnation her managers

>>53711226
Towakadashi...

>>53685992
Yet somehow her co-workers don't wish her back. Dead silence all around. This did not happen with Kson, with people talkin about her for a long time. Especially Haachama.
Someone more well versed with Japanese can refresh me, but I believe Flare wasglad to see her gone or the like.

>>53680878
its hard to know, a menhera like her needs very little to lose it, it can be anybody, but the one who was the closest and was forced to have contact with her was her manager, so thats my best bet.

>>53711710
They do want her back though and they're still friends with her.

>>53698766
> towa’s on her 6th manager now which is just plain funny
Supposing you were the 7th candidate to take the spot, how would you feel about that?
2 is still normal in some measure. 3 is bad luck for sure.
6 is... what?

>>53712306
to be fair to towa, she does management's job better than them such as getting nene's 3d done sooner

>>53690151
And Flare who was in a bakatare collab the day it happened showed very little emotions about it.
Given how Flare reacted to Coco's graduation notice almost 1y earlier I really believe this.

>>53684559
Sir, you seem to be confusing Cover and Anycolor, are you ok?

Towa's a bitch.

>>53712598
>she does management's job better than them such as getting nene's 3d done sooner
QRD?

>>53714637
essentially, after nene's redesign, her 3d redebut was supposed to happen, but it was stalled for so long until towa started talking to management about it and pushing for them to actually get it done

>>53685161
Please understand Mori is a white woman. They need to make everything about themselves.

>>53680878
Flare was the only sankisei to not cry or say goodbye. Take this however you want

>>53697512
BASED BASED BASED

>>53708534
Probably fucking pissed that they would announce her termination just a few hours before the bakatare concert and while they are streaming so now they have their entire chat ask about Rushia instead of their fucking concert.

>>53682711
Im surprised to see such an informed response in /vt/.

Slightly off topic, but Rushia had a really cute design and concept. Chibi fat scull charms and hair buns is so cute. Also her color scheme was great. It would have been cool if she didn't graduate so I could have drawn more art for her.

>>53719607
I'm still waiting for the long awaited collab with hololive in her reincarnated angel form.

>>53680878
>I want new lies to repeat
Take your goddamned meds you catty gossip whore.

>>53685732
No shit their managers were hired first, retard.

>>53698384
A bit of a rewrite of history by holobronies. Cover suspended Coco for 2 weeks for “violating her contract.” They tried to keep their Chinese connections, but only gave up once the entirety of the JP and EN sided with Coco and forced their hand.

>>53680878
What happened between Rushia and aloe?

>>53722845
Nothing
>rushia accused her of shittalking her and aloe said no and asked for proof. >She couldnt produce proof and told aloe she needed a lawyer if she wants to see it.
>aloe gets a lawyer to contact rushia
>rushia blocked the lawyer and aloe and ran away ranting on twitlonger saying aloe is a massive whore

>>53722988
>rushia blocked the lawyer and aloe and ran away ranting on twitlonger saying aloe is a massive whore
KWAB

>>53722988
I don't think she said anything like that about Aloe but the funny thing is that there's no way to confirm what she said when she only ever talks behind membership.

>>53710948
literally everyone including the dramatumbers rushia claims she got info from say delu is innocent and rushia’s just a menhera freak

>>53710948
>there was no beef with anyone but the other person started it
Uhhh what?

>>53710948
Nice history revisionism

>>53722988
This isn't accurate
>Mikeneko tells Delu to let the lawyers deal with it
>Delu agrees, but is literally so demanding in the DMs that Mikeneko says that she'll block Delu in self defence
>Delu agrees to this, as she knows what it's like to have mental health issues
>Mike's lawyer ignores Delu's laywer
>Delu doesn't try to get back in touch with Mike, who blocked her, instead makes a public post and namedrops Mike
If you want my two cents, Delu wanted to put pressure on Mike to give her the evidence and so came up with that idea. According to Delu, her lawyer actually advised her to do it
>>53724815
Narukami is a literal scumbag who laughed about being the cause of another person's suicide.
You are correct in that he took Delu's side. The two are close enough that Delu doesn't use keigo when messaging him. Delu's Discord even did a full TL of Narukami's stream in which he claimed Delu was a victim, but simultaneously admitted that even he couldn't 100% guarantee that he hasn't namedropped Delu to Mike. Narukami's final line was basically
>release your info if you want, but if you do, I'll blackmail you
So I really wouldn't trust a word that comes out of that snake's mouth

>>53726222
Rushia is not gonna fuck you bro

>>53680878
Me, she pissed me off so much I didn't gave her the choice to renew her contract.
If you are /here/, maybe you should have agreed with me that vanilla is better than chocolate.

>>53727216
Good because that would be a betrayal of her fanbase
Also, isn't this a dumb comment considering the other side of that little squabble from over half a year ago is the CEO of Sex?

>>53726222
>release your info if you want, but if you do, I'll blackmail you
This shouldn't be an effective threat if she's a pure and honest girl with nothing to hide. What is there to blackmail her over?

LeAVe NaZuNA ALoNE

Rushia had the most public and documented fall in vtubing history to date. I have no idea why there's still any confusion over what happened

>>53728785
Because she claims Cover lied in the termination announcement.

>>53728091
This is assuming he has much, to be quite honest, anon. As in, it's only Narukami's word to go on.
My point moreso is that it was an insanely defensive response for someone who was supposedly so confident in himself. Well he is getting his ass sued off of him by Roa hopefully.
Anyways, with regards to why Mikeneko didn't release the info publicly, it's pretty obvious. She had it for over a year and a half at this point and talked on stream about how she didn't want to be the type of streamer who interfered or otherwise interrupted the streaming activities of another streamer. She also pointed out that no matter what way the situation would resolve, people would find ways to make her the villain regardless.

>>53680878
Probably somebody tell you this but
>apparently she also got into beef with one of the other members of Hololive
is a rrat
>So, who exactly did she piss off?
Well she is mental I'll for real and Cover is getting bigger and bigger, so they only want any excuse to kill Rushia if you don't believe me anon, go investigate how japanese treat people with mental I'll

>>53728785
Delusional fanbase that refuses to accept the truth

>>53729099
She mentioned a senpai when she was talking to korekore as one of the people she dislikes.

>>53728897
In her head she got terminated on false grounds
>0 legal actions

Bunch of schizos harass her online after said termination
>Legal actions galore

Hmm I wonder... It's almost like she broke her contract and Cover knew for certain they could get rid of her with 0 risks.

>>53729161
>In her head she got terminated on false grounds
Except for the fact that in her own legal statement, she admitted to breaking NDA. The point of her statement was to clear up a few loose ends and basically clear the way for her to continue streaming with less harassment.

>>53728785
Because normalfags who wanted to blame gachikoi(who were worried instead of angry) being angry and idol culture(which had no involvement) being draconian about her having a boyfriend(that she didn't have and didn't want people to believe she had) in order to dab on the incels spread their narrative first
ironically, their "support" was part of the reason that she destroyed herself, by magnifying literal fake news.
Rushias fall was the biggest "we did it reddit" moment in vtuber history, except the normalfags still cling to being in the right

>>53729231
>she admitted to breaking NDA
While minimizing the degree of it. You need to remember that the NDA breach wasn't the only thing she was fired over and she denied all of the other stuff.
She effectively said it was just one tiny thing that almost every other member does every once in a while that got her fired which makes Cover look unreasonable and shitty.
She also tried to claim she never had problems with any talents despite her chat showing a different story, because she knows she needs to appeal to hololive fans.

>>53729723
>She effectively said it was just one tiny thing that almost every other member does every once in a while
she didn't say this
>she had problems with any talents
covers never claimed this
tl;dr
your legalese needs work

>>53729723
>she needs to appeal to hololive fans.
All of her fans are Hololive fans
All current fandead watch Holo too, check around Twitter idiot.
There is no "Mikeneko fans" and "Hololive fans", there are just "Hololive fans who watch Mikeneko" and "Hololive fans who don't watch Mikeneko"

>>53730109
>she didn't say this
She said she only leaked a small irrelevant communication with her manager. That's something a bunch of holos have done and not gotten fired. The effective result is that she said she got fired for something others don't get fired over.
>covers never claimed this
Yeah Cover didn't, but she still talked about it because it came up in the korekore stream. She damage controlled a couple of things that came up during that.

>>53730207
>There is no "Mikeneko fans"
Yes there is. Several of you claim all kinds of things about hololive members but don't actually watch anyone anymore.

>>53730264
>The effective result
You're putting words into her mouth that she never said. If anything, you're the one demanding that a bunch of Holos should be fired or deserve to be fired. How dare you

>>53680878
We lost one of the cutest models.

>>53726222
Rushia literally said that narukami was her source in regards to delu’s slander of her, but as soon as he denies it, he’s suddenly a lying scumbag who can’t be trusted? take your meds nekofag

>>53730350
>You're putting words into her mouth that she never said.
No I'm not.
>you're the one demanding that a bunch of Holos should be fired or deserve to be fired
When did I do that? I literally just said she is dishonestly minimizing what she did to get fired and said she only did one small manager communication leak when in reality she did more than that.
For me to be "demanding that a bunch of Holos should be fired or deserve to be fired" I would have to believe her, which I don't.

>>53730442
Mikeneko mentioned having an actual video/audio source of Delutaya slandering her. That was a rather key point of why she was so certain that it was Delutaya.

>>53730581
>she did more than that.
Do you have any evidence besides Cover's statement to confirm this?
Bear in mind Cover looked over her own statement.
Bear in mind that I am aware that you are the Rushiaschizo, and as such, unless you provide me what I request of you, I won't respond to you.
Bearing in mind that I know your usual strategy when told to produce evidence is to start arguing your "opinion" over and over in order to bait a response.

>>53730691
All the evidence is on the korekore stream where she's claiming all sorts of shit without proof. Her being an oversensitive nutcase doesn't excuse any of it.
You will keep responding to me even if you don't reply directly.

>>53730591
and yet, rushia has failed to produce said video/audio source or even anything to prove it exists in the first place despite everyone being involved asking for her to do so

>>53730985
Anon please, she did nothing wrong and can do no wrong.

>>53697512
>go donate to her
good statement
>that does nothing for her
technically correct if we're being strictly pragmatic
>view is as her fault
are you well?
>cover will never take her back
oh this is what this post is about, just shutting down >>53696360 without directly addressing that post
>>53696579
>ANYONE BUT HER
(you)
>>53696895
>muh NDAs
those agreements only exist to protect corpos by screwing individual, by that principle alone they need to be done away with or at the very least hit with heavy restrictions, at least the ones that multinational corporations make, if they cant monopolize/"do business" properly then why are we allowing them do it at all?

>>53681047
You need to be at least 18 old to post in this shithole

>>53730985
Why would you provide the criminal with evidence of her crime? What exactly would she gain from that?
And it's not as if Delutaya doesn't have a history of spreading rumours about other Vtubers.

>>53685468
>4chan doesn't know what autistic means
The funniest part is that Rushia is the autistic one in that pic

>>53731235
>Why would you provide the criminal with evidence of her crime?
You are actually fucking mental.

>>53731235
Proving your innocence for one. It’s the internet, it’s not like the “criminal” can just erase it from the other person’s possession, and besides, all other parties have also given permission to publically share this evidence for everyone to see, not just delu.
Also if we’re bringing up past behaviour of dumb shit, rushia has delu beat in that regard tenfold, and unlike delu, she still does it to this day

>>53711024
Get back in the cellar, sapling.

>>53731528
Mikeneko was fine with giving it provided it was through a lawyer though. The only piece of the puzzle that we don't 100% understand is why Mikeneko's lawyer decided not to deal with Delutaya's lawyer. I suppose common sense dictates that he didn't consider the query wortwhile or worthy of engaging with
Besides, once that had happened, Delutaya could have gotten back in contact with Mikeneko through a roundabout way, such as getting Kson to get in touch with her. The idea of drawing up that public Fanbox over the course of two weeks sounds extremely petty.
>Proving your innocence for one
If she put it out, people would attack her accusing her of trying to destroy the reputation of an indie Vtuber. Keep in mind that Mikeneko never name dropped Delutaya even throughout the entire duration of that unarchived, members only, guerilla stream in which the issue was brought up. The entire public "proof" was a few posts on 5ch speculating on it and none of the big matome sites actually touched it. That changed after Delutaya made it a big issue. Frankly, it should have been sorted behind the scenes.
>she still does it to this day
Mikeneko doesn't deal with dramatubers anymore, though. I don't watch Delutaya. Has she confirmed whether or not she cut off Narukami following the incident?

There was no beef, but Delu started it, and no Mike does not need to prove that it happened because you don't need to show the criminal that they did the thing they're being accused of because you just don't.

>>53680878
>I get she broke NDA
You apparently don't.

>>53709869
I stopped giving a shit about the situation after day 1 though.

>>53732069
> Delutaya could have gotten back in contact with Mikeneko through a roundabout way, such as getting Kson to get in touch with her.
Lol. Lmao even,
> Keep in mind that Mikeneko never name dropped Delutaya even throughout the entire duration of that unarchived, members only, guerilla stream in which the issue was brought up. The entire public "proof" was a few posts on 5ch speculating on it and none of the big matome sites actually touched it.
Literally all rushia would’ve needed to do would be to say “no, that’s a false rumour”. instead she did her usual schizo shit of not only confirming she was in fact referring to delu in that stream, but also go full retard and turn it into a legal issue by telling delu to get a lawyer
> Frankly, it should have been sorted behind the scenes.
That’s exactly what delu tried to do, and rushia’s response was see above. after that, rushia blocked delu and refused to cooperate even when delu did as she asked and got a lawyer

The only one to blame for escalating shit as far as it got was rushia herself, exactly like when she got fired, hence her still doing retarded shit to this day

A lot of people here are Americans who use their lawyer and law system when in reality Mkeneko and Delutaya were using Japanese law and lawyers that's very different compared to American law system

>>53733231
>but also go full retard and turn it into a legal issue by telling delu to get a lawyer
You've messed up the timeline, anon.
Mikeneko's instructions to refer it to laywer's was two weeks before Delutaya's public post. Having lawyers handle important things is not "turning it into a legal issue". The very fact of the video being slander has already rendered it a "legal" issue. Delutaya's Fanbox post was basically an instruction to Mikeneko of
>talk to me or I'll sue you over this
Also
refused to cooperate
Once again, it was Mikeneko's laywer and not herself who chose not to entertain Delutaya's request. It wasn't even a particular good request either, and only really seems as such if you're already coming at it from the angle of
>Delu didn't slander her
If you come at it from the logical assumption that Deluataya had slandered her, being wary of dealing with her made a lot more sense. All of the escalations to the public were pushed by Delutaya, and I'd argue it ended up biting her on the rear end when Mikeneko's response to Delutaya's public Fanbox was to go quiet besides mentioning that she'd lawyer up before posting publicly (which is the smart choice in such a situation) and then releasing her own side of the story a few days later in a member's stream and telling her fans to disseminate the information pubicly. I'll provide that information as a reply.

>>53733768 (Me)
>>53733231
Keep in mind that this was approved by Mikeneko's lawyer before the stream

Around a year and a half ago, while Mikeneko was still with her previous company, a manager was spreading rumors about Mikeneko and some of the other talents. Around then, Narukami contacted Mikeneko. At the time, there was a policy to report to management if contacted by Narukami, so Mikeneko recorded conversation and gave to her manager. In the audio, Narukami asked Mikeneko about two rumors: one involving changing the hair color of her live2d without permission, and one that a manager had spread about her going to host clubs, both of which she denied. When Mikeneko asked him where he heard this, Narukami said it was from Delutaya. Narukami also knew of the name of Delutaya's manager. Mikeneko says the company took proper care of squashing the hair color related rumors, and her own manager defended her from the other slander while in the company. In addition, she has also stated that she still watches and enjoys streams from members of the company.

Mikeneko has Narukami and other dramatubers blocked on twitter, however Delutaya is still in contact with Narukami. Moreover, Delutaya offered to contact Narukami and Korekore, as apparently Delutaya had also talked to Korekore. Delutaya then sent a message to Narukami asking him if he had mentioned her name, and he said that he doesn’t mention names of his informants as it would stop him getting rumors and he had heard the rumors at a bar three months before Delutaya’s drama at the time. Delutaya sent this information to Mikeneko via text. Delutaya also mentioned hearing a rumor from her manager at the time about one of the girls going to host clubs, but that they didn't specify who it was

Delutaya admits both in her DMs to Mikeneko and in her Fanbox post that she might not seem trustworthy given that she had spread rumors about a Nijisanji talent, but that Mikeneko should trust her anyway. However, Mikeneko does not have enough trust in her to give her the video evidence (it seems likely based on wording that the video is of a separate, still undisclosed case of slander, but this is unclear). They both agreed the DMs were going nowhere, so Mikeneko told her to talk to her lawyer and not her personally and said she would block Delu for her own mental health, to which Delu then sent another long message. Mikeneko then blocked her, prompting Delutaya's FanBox post. The hope is that the context provided here will reduce the severity of attacks against her, while also conveying her intent to reveal both previously mentioned as well as yet undisclosed information as soon as possible to further clarify the situation. She will continue working with her lawyer, as she has done throughout, to find a peaceful resolution if possible.

ITT:

what happened why are mikecucks at full force spreading missinformation across the board these days?

>>53734367
They keep trying to rewrite history by inserting their headcanon
Michael Gato fans are fucking mindbroken
They actually celebrated when Nazuna is getting Rushia's artist to draw her a new model

>>53734367
They coordinate on discord to share any threads they need to deploy the "rrat busters" on, but the result is always them telling everyone that all the answers are behind a $10 Twitcast membeship lol

>>53734367
>>53734529
>>53734571
Why don't you guys try to provide evidence to fight the "misinfo" instead of gossiping like sisters publicly unless you're basically admitting you have no real solid refutation?

>>53680878
I love the bakatare reaction to rushia's termination.
>fubuki didn't give a shit
>flare say she's sad while laughing
>watame immediately change the subject
Daily reminder that watame cried to sana's graduation.
Rushia definitely did something fucked up that watame didn't even try to pretend to cry.

>>53734926
What she did is all very public. You just show up to say none of it is true, she didn't mean it like that, everyone still likes her, blah blah blah.
I don't need to do shit other than to call you out on trying to mislead people.

>>53734926
What's the point anon. Everytime we try to combat them they went full schizo and replied with wall of text and full on denial.
They're doing this since Rushia's termination. Starting or joining threads talking about Rushia and always combative
It's fucking tiresome dealing with them. They're like Vegan, but rather than preaching about green dishes, they preach about green menhera.

>>53734958
Fubuki said she wanted Rushia at 3rd Fest later
Watame said the Tambourine Club would never be disbanded
Flare admitted on stream later that she had good memories with Rushia.
Also this at a minimum

>>53735209
All of this of course means Cover is a black company that harassed Rushia and unfairly kicked her to the curb for doing nothing wrong.

>>53735157
You could just stop shitting up bait threads for nearly a year and a half instead. You choose to suffer in order to...um...."combat" them, which is the most chunni phrase I've ever heard for posting on /vt/.

>>53733855
> Around a year and a half ago, while Mikeneko was still with her previous company, a manager was spreading rumors about Mikeneko and some of the other talents.
It wasn’t a manager.
> In the audio, Narukami asked Mikeneko about two rumors: one involving changing the hair color of her live2d without permission, and one that a manager had spread about her going to host clubs, both of which she denied. When Mikeneko asked him where he heard this, Narukami said it was from Delutaya.
Not only was delu not even in holo at this point, but she was literally underage and was not allowed to drink. In addition, the first contact narukami ever had with delu was after her graduation in august 2020. This is the worst lie
> The hope is that the context provided here will reduce the severity of attacks against her, while also conveying her intent to reveal both previously mentioned as well as yet undisclosed information as soon as possible to further clarify the situation.
It’s been two years rushia, we’re still waiting on that so called “evidence”
The *only* possible way you could see rushia being innocent in this is if you completely disregard every single other testimony released and all the evidence that directly contradicts what rushia said.

Face it nekofag, your oshi is a lying duplicitous scumbag who constantly suicide baits to garner sympathy

>>53735297
Wait, is this you admitting that you're the one making the bait threads and people who disagree with you are "shitting up" those threads?

>>53735339
>It wasn’t a manager.
Unless you work with Cover, you can't know this
>This is the worst lie
The manager who was spreading the rumours about Mikeneko was Delutaya's old manager back when she was in Hololive.
The manager was spreading rumours as early as the Summer of 2020.

>>53735339
(Me) one year*. Reading all this garbage is rotting my brain

>>53735781
>Unless you work with Cover, you can't know this
But you definitely know that it was a manager.

>>53735363
Why would a fan make this thread with that OP?

>>53735912
Yes, I know it was a manager because Mikeneko, who worked with the company, confirmed it as such. Narukami knew the name of said manager too.

>>53735923
To do exactly what you've been doing in this thread.

>>53735984
I thought narukami was a lying scumbag who couldn’t be trusted? Which is it?

>>53736275
Mikeneko thought it was extremely odd for Narukami to namedrop the name of the manager in his correspondence with her because she mentioned, on stream, that it was extremely odd for an outsider to know the name of a manager when a lot of the Holomen don't even know the names of each others' managers. In other words, Narukami had to have had a source inform him of the identity of that manager to be able to name drop him/her to Mikeneko.
Mikeneko knew the name of said manager because she was annoyed at him/her for spreading rrats about her.

When Narukami and korekore say things I'm ok with they are not lying but when they say things that make me feel bad they are lying.

>>53736165
Which is?

>>53736441
To try and make people believe that she was fired for no good reason.

>>53736641
Well, you completely misread me, in that case, Rushiaschizo. And as such, I will not respond.

>>53736697
You said a bait thread is getting "shit up" which is a really weird thing to say for someone who's supposed to believe that these threads are inherently shit. You just happen to find your way into each and every single one of them and commit to posting in them until they reach bump limit.

Rushia got fired from Cover
Rushia is never coming back
Rushia is and will always be a mentally ill old woman
Rushia cannot be trusted

I don't know anything about aloe but from what I have hear she legit has autism so that explains some of her stupid behavior

>>53711710
I'm not saying other holos necessarily wished her back, but it's a completely incomparable situation to Coco. Coco left as amicably as possible given the situation and was given a grand farewell from both the company and the talents. While she graduated, Rushia was actively terminated. She didn't get any ceremonies or goodbyes and thee was no real opportunity for open reconciliation. The negative nature of the termination made it more convenient for both the company and the fans not to dwell on it. Even if the talents wanted to express their feelings towards Rushia, all it would do is bring more attention to a situation that is unpleasant for every party.

>>53719607
Yeah, she hit a really nice sweet spot for a vtuber design where she's distinct but still rather simple in execution. What I really miss is her banter with Marine though. Didn't watch much of her solo, but I always appreciated what she brought to collabs.

>>53685732
dumbass honkey

>>53736697
>Rushiaschizo claim he's not Rushiaschizo
What a schizo thing so say lol

>>53735297
>Victim blaming
Of course Rushiaschizo will do this.
>"Yes, we're the one who started those threads for 1.5 years like mind broken schizos. But it's YOUR fault for replying to OUR threads!"

>>53738087
>Rushia cannot be trusted
It's pretty telling that even when in Vshojo she tend to stream solo.
Kson is trying too hard to be a saviourfag. But is it worth losing a good roommate like Kanata?

>Days since Uruha Rushia graduated
>graduated
lmao you can't make this shit up they're really delusional

>>53680878
Here is what happened

>on Friday there was a Gta Stream with Miko
>Discord message from Mafumafu is displayed on the screen
>in a few hours the Catastrophe hits the different forums/twitter.
>Normally this would be handled by the manager. However, it was Friday, and there would be no announcement until Monday.

>For Rushia, this is unacceptable. Monday would be Valentine's Day. She had Merch for that day, and surely, a Stream(SC). So she needed to do damage control as quickly as possible.
>But surely as the incident involved someone outside the company (and it was a Friday), She couldn't do it.

>Rushia was already in Menhera mode because of this.
>Contact KoreTube. And they agree to make a video in order to "clean up their image".

>On Monday the management didn't like that at all, so they suspend the Valentine's Day event for her. And the investigation begins

Rushia is a victim

>>53681047
>anon discovers that managers manage people

>>53740750
What did Mafumafu say, and did he try to help clear it up?

>HURR SHE'S NEVER COMING BACK
>SEE I SAID IT SO IT'S TRUE
>NO I DONT HAVE TO CONSTANTLY SAY IT BUT I'M GOING TO EVERY TIME SOMEONE EVEN THINKS OF BREATHING ABOUT HER COMING BACK TO HOLOLIVE SINCE ITS SO OBVIOUS

>>53740750
>The explanation pretty much shows that Rushia is in the wrong
>Still claim that Rushia is the victim
Fandeads are utterly mindbroken

>>53720015
No, THIS is a rewrite. They tried to keep their Chinese connections but FUCKING CHINA AND THE CCP AND ALL THEIR CROSSDRESSING CLIPPERS DECIDED TO CONTINUE THE SHIT SHOW.
They simply were not worth the cost of keeping around. China is like ingesting liquid mercury. Everyone sided against them at the same time when they simply WOULD NOT LET THE FUCKING TAIWAIN DEMOGRAPHICS SLIP FUCKING PASS.
gfy bug

>>53723506
No. There is. It's all leaked already. Rushia/MonkeyNeko/whoeverthefuck just straight up lied.

>>53729231
It wasn't just one NDA breach. It was continuous. She tried to lawyer up and stop Hololive from saying that, but it was true, so they said it anyway.

>RUSHIA BAD
>IF YOU DONT THINK RUSHIA BAD YOURE MENTALLY COMPROMISED
oh this sounds like it's coming from a good faith speaker, for sure

>>53742916
>you must be arguing in bad faith if you believe the facts

>>53743098
>believe the science tier retort
trust the experts?

>>53743194
>politiscience is about facts
Now I know you're a falseflagger.

>no u
oh this sounds like it's coming from a good faith speaker, for sure

sad

>tfw you cant no u in discussion

>>53741448
He didn't say anything and immediately dump Rushia

>>53741448
He apologized for his role in upsetting so many people then said, "Fuck that whore," after racking his 9mm.

>>53707510
cant unsee

>>53680878
She threw a fit that Aqua "streamed over" her. Imagine being so retarded that you try to slander Aqua of all people.

>>53750271
proofs?

>>53728162
jesus christ

>>53728162
Why is he brown? Her fans were supposed to be white chads.

>>53680878
I like to think she had beef with Aqua simply because it's really funny to imagine

I sure wish some of the oil baron dollary doors went into doxxing some of the persistent schizos she has, bet their post history here would be very interesting.

>>53750271
>no proofs
lol

>>53750874
>>53754945
She cancelled a minecraft stream because Aqua scheduled a 15 minute announcement stream over it and ended up doing nothing for that day.

>>53755245
any links?

>>53752396
Anon, /vt/ is full of schizo. I think we are all on the same level of crazy here, just for different chuuba

>>53756852
Anti-ing a vtuber, especially ones you've never watched, will never not be a sign of incredible mental illness

>>53740750
I love despite knowing all the fact, you guys still think she is victim.

>>53758527
It's schizos in their basement that can have no effect on anyone outside their basements. They can only relate to acting like victims since consequences is something they can't even imagine let alone understand.

>>53759236
i wish my bedroom was as spacious and private as a basement

>>53756172
https://twitter.com/uruharushia/status/1395260655368765440
https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1395291200500879360

>>53680878
She would regularly "meet and greet" with her JP whales in love hotels around Tokyo and she was also refusing her manager's advances. This had been going on for a while and they were waiting for a slipup to act upon.

>>53687022
That's because the managers (male) want some rotation in their menhera fuck buddies.

>>53702676
>>53710753
Not in Japan, you don't speak up with your boss or mock him/her.

>>53697674
She doesn't speak a word of English, of course she's shunned by the rest of the company.

>>53699960

>>53761192
the fuck you need a manager for anyways bro just use excel

>>53760883
look, I dislike that menhera, but accusing her of prostitution is too much even for us.

>>53761239
Its a shame really. Its like Vshojo has the opposite problem of Hololive

>>53761239
>shunned
They keep inviting Nazuna and speak fondly of her.

>>53731064
>those agreements only exist to protect corpos by screwing individual, by that principle alone they need to be done away with or at the very least hit with heavy restrictions, at least the ones that multinational corporations make, if they cant monopolize/"do business" properly then why are we allowing them do it at all?


bitch signed it.
broke it.
got her deserved comeuppance.

cry more.

>>53728162

>>53728162
good lord, not even human at that point

>>53680878
>who exactly did she piss off?
antis

>>53685732
ESLtard. You don't know shit. Do you believe that a company middle manager would somehow be inferior to his underling office drones if he was hired after them, too? Or that a teacher would be inferior to his students if he was hired after they were enrolled?
The senpai-kouhai shit applies only to those at the same social and/or professional level, and the same applies here. The talents are in principle inferior and must listen to the managers. That's why they address each other as senpai and kouhai depending on when they debuted, but never use either for their managers.

>>53763782
I'm not sure how helpful invitations in english are for her

Flare seems likely, going by the way she acted afterwards.

>>53768473
That doesn't mean she's shunned though and Kson definitely keeps in contact with her.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if Henya did say something in jap to her as well.

>>53764441
>bitch signed it
not disputing that, at all, i'm saying the deal is shit
>cry more
oh you just want the (you), here you go
you dont have a proper retort to what you greentexted btw, eat shit bad faith speaker

>>53760661
okay, now where's the tweet or something of her explicitly going on about """being streamed over?"""

>>53770021
Oh so things never happen for reasons that were not outright stated?

>>53764441
>That twitter
I know I keep calling Fandeads mindbroken, but this is just sad.

>>53729099
mental you'll what?

>>53696697
She did when she was speaking in my head.

>>53740750
Anon, Ex-Fandead here, She fucked up everything and we can never change that. She's a victim of her poor decisions but thats it. She fucked up, most people who had connections to her left her, Fandeads caused more damage than helped and antis was waiting for such yab to happen. Move on, it hurts but move on.

>>53770429
So correlation is causation when it pushes a point antis like?
i thought "/pol/-tier" reasoning was bad

>>53771891
>my fellow fandeads
lol

>>53742592
Seemed like she already had anti's in china (centered around her 'corrupting' or 'Americanizing' the other idols), then they used that to rile up people, most of whom weren't even watching hololive b4 that

I am glad she still gets porn. She is by far the hotest vtuber design. I jizzed to some rape art of her yesterday

>>53696484
No, only a dumb underage would think such nonsense.

The only thing i got from this thread is the hololive girls cant stream unless a manager sits there and watches? So some mfer is at home and has to watch korone for her full 24 hour streams?

>>53764441
Most sane braindead