/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>5365550
Radish Shitpost is at 61k now

>>5365550
>gura's birthday preparation is beaten by a free talk

>>5367699
shuba was late an hour

>>5365550
kuzuha channel......

>>5367699
Isn't Shuba's free talk always have a high nimber?

>>5367996
playing a shitty mobile game while having viewers split between multiple POVs

Seriously what happened to Nijisanji yesterday? Only 2 Niji on top 25. Are their fans suddenly dont want to watch them anymore?

>>5368263
It is. It keeps getting bigger even when it's not a zatsu. The only time her number plummets is when the game she plays is a debuff.

>>5368352
Holos are getting more viewers and kicked Nijis out of top 25 probably.

>>5368352
it's not that they're losing viewers. the problem is that their numbers are staying the same while hololive's keep increasing, ESL-chama.

>>5368787
This.
Given the fact that Nijisanji has 4 spots in the top 50 vtubers with most subscribers.
Having 2 spots in top 25 live streams is no surprise.

Meme review numbers

>>5365550
I really do hope other holos could reach do reddit reviews on their own after coco graduates. Like Subaru's police segments where she receives a report on one Holo misbehaving, ask reddit to make memes of her and invite her for questioning where they both review memes. It can be once or twice in a month, doesn't need to be weekly. Other than that, unarchived reddit reviews (?) where a Holo reviews copyrighted memes/videos that are the funniest or most upvoted in the sub in a given week or month.

>>5368305
cope

face it, he isn't popular anymore

>>5368352
Hopefully it continues. Nothing makes me happier than seeing Manjisanji fail.

>>5373264
Nearly a 20,000 viewer drop from last week. The graduation buff is already gone. I don't think the actual graduation will hit 200k anymore based on the recline.

>>5374754
Yeah I'm sure that's what it is and nothing to do with going from an EN to the least EOP friendly JP

>>5374754
Her announcement was 2 weeks ago,
there are 10 more days until the live event.
I think the number will start picking up within the last 5 days,
starting from the last meme review (6/27).

Yesterday's superchats

>>5368352
They were doing this shitty mobile game sponsored stream

>>5365550
>the top 10 is entirely Hololive
Did Nijisanji fucking died or everyone are just taking a break?

>>5375130
Read the post above you. Even Kenmochi who easily gets 20k got something like 12k.

>>5374701
Yeah, he just get between 20k and 10k. That's not much after all.

>>5375065
Who is that on number 12?
New vtuber?

>>5375080
Pekora, Suisei, and Nene were doing a shitty gacha game sponsored stream (arguably worse because it's fucking Bleach Brave Souls) too and they got 28k, 11k, and 11k respectively, which are like their normal numbers. Sponsor debuff is real but it seems like it affects Niji more than Holo

>>5375065
Holy shit, Aoi on the incline!

kek destroyed by a duck oh no no no

>>5375377
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCju7v8SkoWUQ5ITCQwmYpYg
Merry Milk, she's part of .LIVE, looks like she just came back from a long hiatus hence the high SCs compared to her subs etc.

>>5375467
At least that's anime AND gacha, Nijis were playing Chinese Zombies/DBD knockoffs. Maybe more but I couldn't sit through it

close again

>>5375595
>collab with mori
>cant even beat pekoras X number yakuza7 playthrough

>>5375549
Don't forgot Tom and Jerry... I hope they're saving the legit games for when the actual big sponsored stream happens cuz why the fuck is Google Play sponsoring them to play these shitty chinese knockoff games.

>>5375785
Ironmouse's peak stream numbers throughout her entire history of streaming was 12k until last night. I don't know what you expected, exactly.

>>5376036
DBD is what I meant. It's made by Netease which made another DBD ripoff called Identity V. They made a Tom and Jerry clone of THAT. One of the livers couldn't even stream it because of technical issues, Haru.
Alchemy Stars sponsorship will probably also be low numbers. Kanae and Kuzuha may be on the charts but I won't bet on it.

>>5376254
I think the Alchemy Stars streams already happened/ are happening now. Kuzuha got 21k a few days ago and Kanae got like 11k IIRC. The other nijis ranged from 200- 5000 I believe. Tbf it's like 18 people and not everyone gets big numbers in that group normally.

>>5368352
Too busy doing 50 sponsored streams.

>>5365550
Is this a different number thread?
last time I remember Gura's unarchived karaoke was 2nd to Okayu's 3d

>>5377437
Yes. Retards seemed to have taken to create new threads after hitting bump limit instead of archive or waiting until the send of HoloJP hours at 2am JST

Coco having 3 entries on the list... going out with a bang.

Haven't been keeping up to date on nijisanji numbers but how did their apex tournament do? Did it break any records like their baseball one?

>>5378186
Nope, it was too split cuz everyone and their moms were streaming.

Main stream on Niji's official channel was 50-66k for the most part then spiked to 97k once everyone ended their streams at the end. Kuzuha had the most viewers on his solo stream, peaking at around 46k IIRC.

>>5378222
Would have thought that the main channel would have spiked harder maybe even close to the baseball tournament numbers or maybe even surpassing shark's costume reveal, considering it was nijisanji's big event. Well good thing I wasn't taking bets on those numbers.

>>5368305
I mean the only other person streaming at the time who you could say might have a considerable amount of fan overlap was Kanae. But yeah either way I think it did good, especially for what he was streaming, 19k is a lot. Shitposting just melts your brain

>>5378450
It really is sponsor weekend in nijisanji like 20 streams for that google play sponsorship, mahjong soul sponsorships and constant streams of this alchemy stars game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54nscPLp7K0

>>5378598
The Alchemy Stars thing is a relay

>>5378598
It just never ends, anywhere I look I see sponsored streams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJUrUARK6xI

>>5378442
Ya I thought this event could've broken the baseball record too due to the massive hype Apex has right now in Japan and how big the event was.

If you want more info, this is the view data (red line is viewers) https://vnuma.net/video-info/FwAEI7h8vx8

It really only spiked at the end because all the participants ended their streams and funneled all the views to the main stream. However, when I looked on twitter for reactions (it was trending), it seemed like most viewers were already watching the main stream + their oshi's stream so maybe there wasn't much dilution, there just wasn't that many people (150k+) that wanted to watch a 4fun Apex tournament.

>>5375518
Nah it was just her anniv and 2nd live aftertalk, she is still same old same old. The concert was kino tho, as expected of her.

>>5373264
As expected. Meme review is definitely the golden goose when it comes to consistently high liveviewer numbers. Impressive. No other long running show can compete and no one can replicate it's success. No wonder Coco gained 100k subscribers when she announced her graduation. Too many tourists who don't subscribe.

>>5378623
World of sponsorships too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96J1VS9aZLY

Anyone has numbers for previous HoloEN birthday numbers for what to expect on Gura's birthday stream?

>>5381246
Ame: 41,080 max viewers, $8,934 superchats
Calli: 32,519 max viewers, $55,553 superchats
Ina: 38,020 max viewers, $41,478 superchats

>>5365550
someone who's not a fucking idiot remake this thread after midnight jst

>>5381469
Thank you, that gives some perspective for tonight.

>>5381469
Ame....

Gura is at 18k during JP primetime.

>>5379464
looks like nijisanji still solidly beats out Hololive for sponsor moneys. Red Bull is good, but you can't beat Google. Wonder if Hololive will ever win.

>>5383584
Falseflagging tribalfag detected

>>5383584
You know that the Red Bull thing was only of the big sponsors right? Microsoft, Netflix, Good Smile and Square Enix. All of these mobile games are just icing on top. All Niji fans only tout 1st quarter 2020 data because that is when Nijisanji was still relevant.

>>5384148
I am really looking forward to the next Cover's quarterly earnings report. Fck man, if only I can buy their stock.

>>5384148
Must have missed that, when did Holo get netflix?

>>5384448
They were used to promote this exclusive netflix anime record of ragnarok.

>>5381501
Do it yourself, retard.

>>5379122
>Meme review is definitely the golden goose when it comes to consistently high liveviewer numbers. Impressive. No other long running show can compete and no one can replicate it's success.
And yet Cover management considered Coco a liability.

>>5385215
If you say so

>>5385215
Look a this this way. She got $2.2M of SCs from streaming which is roughly $660,000 for Cover alone. Their HoloFes2 and Bloom concert gave them at least $2M of earnings each conservatively deducting talent fees. Some say they earned $4.5M on Bloom alone because of ticket sales but that doesn't account profit distribution and base talent fees and overall production cost of making original songs. Even if they only got a $2M clean profit out of that, that is still more than $660,000. Not to mention the fact that Coco isn't getting any exclusive sponsorships. Only thing left are merch. If we try to be generous and say she also earned $2.2M in merch and Cover gets 50% then that means Cover gets $1.1M on that. That means $1.8M tot. A big deal of profit but can be easily compensated by doing another concert which they will.

>>5385215
>And yet Cover management considered Coco a liability
Ogey

Can Gura get more than 45k for her birthday stream?

numberfags, do you have some data on memberships?

when is sodapoppin being put on these charts
he had 30k+ 2 days in a row

>>5387500
Gura will get the biggest numbers, but not supers
Kiara will likely get the least numbers but has a good chance to beat mori in SC's

>>5365550
Someone post today's numbers

>>5387580
soda is not a vtuberyet, just a memer . Lets see if he sticks to it for a while. Even then he won't be a vtuber to purists, and his follow number will never count cause he got most of it during non vtuber days.

>>5365550
heres todays version to match with the previous tjreads

>>5390286
>Tokyo Ghoul at 16k
Lmao, what a loser. Just checked his stream and he's a gold level player.
Why do nijiniggers pretend he's relevant?

TICK TOCK HOLOKIDS

>>5390383
>>5390286
EN's performing well today, wonder if Guras birthday will manage to get #1

>>5375130
they didn't even compete with nijipex or any of their big collabs lately

the recline might be real

>>5375130
>Did Nijisanji die?
no, but Coco is literally dying in a few days.

>>5390286
It's nice being a mainbranch chad

>>5390554
Tokyo Ghoul has 14k viewers now while playing Apex, so it's not like "nijipex" is any competition to Holos.

>>5390383
KUZUHA...

>>5390383
>>5390286
tenshi is back to INCLINING

>>5390383
Wait wtf? Kuzuha's boyfriend gets better numbers while playing fucking minecraft?
Lmao. I wonder how Manjisanji faggots will spin this one around.

>>5368352
>Seriously what happened to Nijisanji yesterday?

Their numbers are staying the same while Hololives are increasing.

>>5390383
>>5390286
at this point we can confirm that coco's loss of steam is real, as her mc didnt do too well, meme review was regular mr numbers, and her collab with reine didnt even make it to the ranks. Not to say that it aint impressive the how long she was managing to maintain it.
Still, this does give me a bit of doubt that her grad stream can really break all the records.

>>5390485
I'm not interested in watching a man who doesn't understand how pumps work

>>5390814
Meme review usually gets 40-50k unless the guest is extremely highly anticipated. Getting 60k for Shion, a relative nobody, is an exception.

>>5390762
Minecraft is a better game. He’s also playing on hardcore which is way more interesting to watch someone play than your everyday minecraft stream

>>5390906
People are bored of the graduation marathon, she should have just spent a week on this shit.

>>5390906
Shion easily gets more than 15k just doing whatever. She's a superstar by holo standards.

>>5391039
Her usual numbers are around 8-10k, she's just been getting inflated numbers as of late because of her announcement and break stuff

>>5390509
When will Gura celebrate her B-day?
I don't see it on the upcoming videos on her channel

>>5390926
>12k now
Cope, nijinigger

>>5391087
Look harder it's already up

>>5390383
>30k with N Yakuza 7 stream
The rabbit is too powerful.

>>5391083
She would get 8-10k if she streamed regularly.
She gets more views than that because she rarely streams. Her average is around 15k thanks to that.

>>5391112
Valo

>>5391126
I went and look, there still isn't, even in her community tab, there is no announcement

This gives you a better picture of who is dominating hourly starting from 6AM JST. Data is for today.

>Vampire faggot changed to Valorant to cope with his low numbers
LMAO

>>5390485
>Less viewers than Pekora
Kek, this is the power of 3 million subscribers?

6/13-6/20

HoloJP is strong.

>>5391087

https://schedule.hololive.tv/lives

>>5390814
Let's be real. You can't expect she's gonna get high numbers over the span of 21 days when her normal average was under 10k before her announcement. The true numbers are on the day of graduation where most people would tune it. But I'm gonna give roughly 150k+ at this point cause her birthday had 90k peak.

>>5391241
This one looks good. Where's finana anyway?

>>5391241
The only time a non-holo topped the hour was when they weren't streaming

>>5391083
By your logic, 80 percent of En is a Nobody then

>>5391454
Isn't that a watch-along?
It isn't her birthday celebration?

>>5391603
EN2 needs to scout a second Gura to fill up the dead hours.

>>5391235
here, blindchama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86UdOrzFXxQ

>>5391694
Scroll down, anon.

>>5391257
are you new to kuzuha or sonething

Can't wait for Gura to break 100k so Chumkeks gets uppity again while ignoring her average numbers.

>>5391568
Her max was at 2K viewers at around 11 where Elu was already at 3K viewers. She never stood a chance.

>>5391740
Why doesn't this appear when I looked at her channel?
Even now when I click on her channel, I still can't find it, I can only get there through your link

>>5391350
Why do they count the entirety of Niji vs only the holoJP branch. This is outrageously unfair.

>>5391791
Don’t be the person who replies to bait

>>5391740
No need, group dynamics that could benefit the whole Hologirls on top of filling specific niches is better. No need to have another Gura, Ina or Mori. It's just gonna split the fanbase. Best choices are a strategy gamer, a writer (comfy storytelling asmr), a retired professional gamer, the crazy girl (another Ollie/Kiara) and a tomboy tsundere loli/ dark skinned loli

>>5391919
Oops meant to reply the guy above

>>5391893
same reason they dont want to include Vshojo - that nip doesnt want to acknowledge the en vtubers' success

>>5391241
are you fucking blind? you include bahroo but not soda?

>>5390286
Sunday Coco meme review moggings taste delicious.

>>5391791
wdym? Does he do this often?

>>5391987
Coco is falling off, even Pekora did better with her review with no graduation crutch.

>>5391989
You seriously think someone would play Valorant to get high numbers? I thought you were shitposting.
He shifts games in pretty much every stream

>>5391241
Hourly gives you a better perspective to who is rivaling who at different timeslots. EN primetime shows Gura, Subaru, Polka, Coco, Bahroo and Zentreya. JP primetime shows Marine, Botan and Miko. Middle hours are Pekora, Ame, Furen, Reine and Rushia.

>>5390286
Zero nijilivers in the top ten. Beyond pethatic. I can't even numberfag/tribalfag to this shit. Jesus.

>>5391979
That was Vnuma's data. If he sticks to this schtick then maybe he will be counted

>>5392137
Imagine equating entertainment with a view counter.
>lol Pekora doesn't get as many viewers as Dream, she sucks.

>>5391989
every apex stream he switches to valo, or sfv lately

>>5392045
Not really. Mori got 75k live views when she showed up which is before Coco announced the graduation.

>>5391979
>implying he'll stick to doing it
Rumao

>>5392225
>First time Coco did a collaboration with an EN.
>No buff
C'mon, anon.

>>5392201
This is a numbers thread about vtubers. Unless you have an actual argument I suggest you go suck Dream's dick.

>>5391919
>>5391961
all good, I was referring to the performer's charisma.
The new talent should fill in a different niche,
but she needs to attract at least 10k+ audience during the dead hours.
I think a dark skinned loli who can talk in wakanda,
and sing like ariana would be fun to watch.

>>5392045
This is bait right? I hope you're not actually this retarded.

>>5392045
>Coco is falling off, even Pekora did better
Why say “even Pekora” as if she doesn’t typically do well? As for Coco, the restrictions from Cover management made her want to leave. At some point she won’t be on the charts at all unless she becomes another VTuber.

>>5392201
Top ten is the only list that matters anonchama. Nijisanji has some heavy hitters so it's really disheartening to see that none of them, as of late, ever make it into the top ten. The decline is real. And while Niji is busy shilling mobile games for Google. Hololive will continue to be on the rise. That's the reality. Now cry.

>>5392270
Dream gets 300k for minecraft daily. Is he better than Peko?

>>5392562
>Coco graduating
>Haachama graduating
>Hololive content gets worse and worse
>you focus on a view count
the industry as a whole is declining. i'm not crying, you are.

>>5392137
Good for them. Shows Nijifans aren't braindead zombies who watch any sponsored app game just because person x is streaming it.

>>5391816
Just subscribe to her like most and check all her upcoming streams on the subscriptions tab.

>>5392264
Coco regularly pulls above 35K with her reviews even before the graduation or EN. It gets higher depending on who is the guest. Even that Kiryu doll pulled 34K viewers.

>>5392576
It's amazing that you can still type with a dick on your mouth.

>>5392655
I am subscribed to her since her debute, anon...

>>5392739
Retard, the entire idea of this thread is bigger number = better streamer. Is Dream better than Pekora, yes or no?

>>5392615
As if any of those would be in the top10 regardless of the game.

>>5392602
you're entering a numberfag thread and wondering why everyone is numberfagging
let us compare numbers

>>5392742
Learn to use YouTube then anon, I can perfectly see her upcoming birthday stream this way in the subscriptions tab.

Rushia isn't in the top 10 or whatever and earns the most money, poor girl.

>>5392602
The content is just fine. Coco and Haachama's content only reflects 4% of what the other Holopros shows or does on a daily even with restrictions. A lot of them weren't affected.

>>5392761
why are you talking about non vtubers in a vtuber board?

>>5392602
Keep lying to yourself nijinigger. Even if hololive dies. The Roommates will only grow stronger. These rankings will be filled with indies. The thought itself makes me laugh.

>>5392761
Retard. This is a vtuber number thread. Learn how to read. I thought Dream's fans are already past kindergarten.

>>5392761
How new.

>>5392924
Yes i'm a tribalist because Coco, who I membered, is graduating cause of Cover being fucking idiots. You got it.

>>5392761
Lurk. More. Nigger.

>>5392867
Mine literally can't, been refreshing and changing web browsers(was using chrome then firefox, then I checked on the phone app) still can't find it, seems something is happening to YT then if you can see it but I can't

>>5392883
Yeah pretty pethatic honestly.

>>5392104
Obviously not lol.
He changed the game to Valo because he was getting poor numbers at ape sex.
It's a cope method.

>>5392924
This is the future of vtubers. Once holomembers start graduating and going indie, their fanbases will without hesitation, follow. I believe.

>>5391969
does he also exclude NijiEN/NijiID? it probably doesn't really matter numbers-wise, but it kinda matters philosophy-wise

>>5393280
I think most Holos, once graduate, would probably stopped for good due to their age

>>5393261
why would he switch to a game that gets him lower views. he peaks at apex, check playboard.
apex>valo>sfv for views

>>5391241
I had no idea Furen got numbers like that.

>>5393359
I doubt that. They are live streamers that plays games for a living. They don't have to show their face. I mean some are already married. Even in Niji, Gwelu has a kid now. If you want to believe roommate rrats, a number of vtubers are married now including Holos and Nijis.

>>5393379
You're a fucking retard, aren't you? And after all the trouble I went through explaining it.
>Vampire faggot is playing ape sex
>Abysmal numbers
>Vampire faggot notices this and changes to Valo.
>Suddenly good numbers.
You get it now?

>>5393515
tell me valo pulls better numbers than apex
https://playboard.co/en/video/FnL2Riy2sGA
and explain why he changed to sfv if it's bringing low numbers right now. did kuzuha think it's opposite day? is he doing it to tank his viewer numbers on purpose?

>>5393359
What else are they going to do? Actually retire? Some of them have skills to work normal jobs but a good number of them don't.

>>5393043
>Schizos actually believe this
I can't wait for July 2 so this kind of "people" leaves.

>>5393753
well Ayame can shit a lot

>>5393753
A lot of those Holo girls probably have enough to start their own small business. I would not be surprised if some already do.

>>5393601
I didn't think these threads attracted so many mouth-breathers.
Once again, I'll try to explain things so that even the most retarded of retards can understand.
>Tokyo Ghoul starts playing Apex.
>He notices that he isn't getting many views.
>Stops playing Apex, switches to Valo
>Now he gets "good" numbers by Valo standards.
You get it now?

>>5393753
Doesn't Japan have a welfare for old people?

>>5393753
Have children

>>5393919
you're making up shit so no, i don't get it

>>5394038
It’s bait

>>5394038
Why did you eve bother replying if you're just going to play being retarded?

>>5392761
Nijiniggers are starting to use non chuubas like Dream and Nintendo because they can't fight back with their own numbers.

>>5393919
Fuck it I can’t even tell if this is bait or you’re just an idiot at this point
>Now he gets "good" numbers by Valo standards.
What does this mean? When he was playing it he got the same numbers he always does playing it.
What are “Valo standards”? That’s gonna be different for everyone

>>5392761
Based, stunned all the numberfags.

>>5391350
What happened to .LIVE, they lost subs this week instead of gaining.

>>5392761
That is like asking in /a/ why anime movies are worse movies than Disney movies in a box office thread, something completly out of context.

>>5394339
and why are you posting delusions instead of posting fucking numbers? we can wait for this stream to end and compare apex, valo, and sfv numbers and i assure you it will be the same as all his other streams
if you said something like "he switched to valo look at his pathetic dwindling numbers" i wouldn't reply because it's true, he loses viewers when he does that

>>5394714
ESLchama...

>>5394823
You got me, actually I am ETL...

>>5394554
Are you just fucking with me right now?
I have no idea if I should be replying to you in earnest or am I just wasting my time.
Every vtuber gets shitty numbers when playing Valorant, but the vampire faggot plays Valorant when his numbers start dropping as a way to cope.
When Kuzuha gets good numbers while playing Apex, he keeps playing Apex. When he does not, he switches games. How is this so difficult to understand?

>>5395047
Alright number 1 Kuzuha viewer

>>5392761
Top (You) farmer

>>5395047
you have nothing to say about the stream i linked where you can also see several apex -> valo streams where his viewers decreased huh?

>>5395425
Are you this guy? >>5393601
If so, my point wasn't that Valorant brings better numbers than Ape sex.

>>5395342
Numbers are the law in Numbers Thread.
If some schizo denies the value of numbers or goes way out of context, it's like denying the reason for this thread.

>>5395616
i am and i will quote you
>Abysmal numbers
>Vampire faggot notices this and changes to Valo.
>Suddenly good numbers.
point to me the increase in numbers once this stream is done and i'll naked dogeza

>>5393343
I did a manual count of non-retired / suspended channels on Nijisanji and came to 102, plus or minus 1 depending on their nebulous counting. They're clearly excluding NijiKR, NijiID, and VirtuaReal but I do believe they are including NijiEN into the statistics - I'm not going to go through all of those channels but practically 90%+ of them from what I've scanned streamed that week. There are technically 34 channels on HoloJP, but I believe they are excluding Haachama and Ayame since they haven't streamed for that week, which is fair.

Interesting to note that they rank preemptively by number of streams, new subscribers, and VOD viewership. I honestly believe whoever is putting out these charts has a definite Niji bias since he's not counting by individual efficiencies or proportions, but by cumulative numbers that are honestly pretty meaningless and if anything, puts Nijisanji in a bad light considering they have 3 times the number of active channels but less weekly VOD views, less subscribers, less subscriber growth, all while streaming 2 and a half times as much as Hololive. Not to mention, whoever made this chart includes NijiEN as part of the main branch, but not HoloEN despite HoloEN being a literal golden goose. Just including HoloEN would increase total subscribers by ~7.7 million subscribers and make the total 38.4m subscribers, total VOD views would increase from 2.8b to 3.3b, and that's only with five (5) members.

>>5395711
I think what he meant was, when Kazuha gets lower number than expected in Apex, he switches to Valorant because even tho he get lower numbers in Valo, it's still higher compare to any normal Valorant streamers so he can use it to massage his ego.
That's what I think he is trying to say

>>5391350
>>5394637
Who even are the remaining .LIVE chuubas? I saw a lot from YuNi this week, but who else is alive?

>>5395917
I think that’s what he’s saying too, or at least what he switched his “argument” to
I want to know what exactly he’s basing this off of, because he clearly doesn’t watch him, because if he did he would know the actual reason he switches games. And he also doesn’t always do exactly Apex - Valo, sometimes he switches to another game, and sometimes he doesn’t even start with Apex.
It’s obvious he doesn’t watch him yet he writes this so confidently so I think it’s bait

>>5395711
I'm done after this post since you clearly don't understand what I'm talking about.
There's no increase in numbers and there isn't supposed to be any increase.
Kuzuha sees his views are decreasing, so he switches to not-apex, so that his numbers look good.
I have no idea how to explain this more clearly.

>>5396201
i'm just quoting you bro but thanks for backing down, try picking a vtuber you actually watch next time

>>5395917
This is exactly what I meant. I have no idea what I'm saying wrong.

>>5396201
>Kuzuha sees his views are decreasing, so he switches to not-apex, so that his numbers look good.
I’m pretty sure you’re the only one in the entire world who has proposed such a convoluted narrative (without providing any proof), never even seen his actual antis who do claim he cares about numbers say anything like this

>>5396278
I'm watching the vampire right now tho. He's getting his ass kicked by Akuma right now.

>>5396354
Whatever you say. Bottom line is, Kuzuha can't compete anymore.

>>5391241
man, hololive has no competition during JP prime time

>>5396354
It think he means that nijiniggers are the ones with the narrative, defending Kuzuha with a Valo stream when the thumbnail and description says Apex

>>5396375
You weren’t watching earlier when he said the reason he was switching games, you were just watching the thread and saw an opportunity to shitpost

>>5390383
>>5390286
Do you think people are getting tired of apex?not just on v tubing but in general?
both kuzu and hal seems really low but could it bebe related to the general state of the game rather than the talent themselves?

>>5396515
I was watching him tho. >>5390469
Cope some more Nijinigger

>>5396509
If anything having such a number on a stream with Apex in the title and thumbnail would bruise his ego if he actually cared and thought in such a calculated way like this guy is claiming, so if you had a brain you’d think he’d make a new stream with whatever other game as the main to make it look better

>>5396830
“Just checked his stream”

It's called apexsanji for a reason you dumbfucks. the Japanese would agree. The problem Nijisanji is currently facing is that they are alienating their fanbases with constant apex garbage. That's precisely the reason they are underperforming. Too many retarded apex kidz. Aqua would agree. And it's precisely the reason why holochads shun any holomem who streams apex. thank God my oshi fubuki threw that game in the trash. Also fuck Matsuri and Towa. That is all.

>>5396830
you opened his stream once and started posting about the voices in your head telling you the reason kuzuha switches games

>>5396713
This is based from Twitch
Apex its actually on the rising since the beginning of 2021.

>>5396895
>>5396935
Whatever you say. I've had his stream open all this time.

>>5397072
“Checked”
Thank you for the laugh

>>5397123
Thanks for the (you). Didn't need it though.

>>5397169
No problem

>>5396959
In other words Apex is a buff game overall, specially in Japan where many of the other most popular streamer games like GTAV and Fortine don't have much audience.

>>5398521
that's a Twitch chart, and Twitch is mostly EOP

>>5398701
I posted that regarding the state of Apex as a game, I don't know about Japan.
On a side note, reading some post here, I don't know the state of Japan's viewership, but Valorant has higher numbers than Apex overall, at least based on Twitch. So Valorant being a debuff game is debatable.

>>5399020
Valorant had a lot of sponsorships/tournaments on Twitch while Apex is more on Youtube so that could contribute to it. is there a way to get this chart for Youtube?

>>5399020
I think generally Valorant gives normal to slightly lower numbers when it comes to vtubers, but if someone who was actually good at it were to play it it’d be more advantageous since unlike some FPS it’s a pretty boring game to watch if someone just keeps losing in it

despite his plummeting numbers you gotta give it to kuzuha channel, his nonwatchers are just as loyal as his diehard fans

Anon is trying to say that since Valorant gets lower numbers than Apex normally, Kuzuha maintaining the same viewership whilke switching from Apex to Valo means he has improved number value or something based on how much higher he is compared to average.
Now I'm going to say that that is such a fucking dumb way of looking at things and that anon should probably kill himself.

How the fuck Kisuna AI managed to lose momentum in such an extreme fashion?
Is it the fact she is not a daily live streamer like it became fashionable in these days?

It was not just the "clone AI skulls for the chink skull throne" thing, it can't have been just that

>>5400313
Anon, yes it can. It did. It's a domino effect of bad shit that started from that and here we are now.

>>5400313
Maybe because she's more interested in sponsorships than gaining Youtube subs

>>5400392
>more interested in sponsorships
I didn't know one thing precluded the other. That was a very roundabout and dumb way to say
>Kisuna is so successful she doesn't even need an audience anymore
You know who had a fuckton of sponsorships?
>this fag right here
You know him right? Then he took an arrow to the knee, gave up raising his Youtube audience and he's a literally who has been today whose only contemporary mentions unavoidably starts with
>what happened to Ray William Johnson

Online media is a harsh mistress: the second your audience starts growing backwards you're all but dead.

>>5400665
Dude was a nobody without his fans. I hope my oshi stays a lil bit longer with her fans until I find my own happiness in life.

Betting $10 Gura's Birthday stream would get around 55k peak

>>5401694
it is sunday so i say 60-70k

Do most Gura's fans treat her as streamer or youtuber(video type) due to her pre-Gura period ?

>>5402930
I don't watch her but she streams mostly doesn't she? Why would her past life matter?

>>5402930
People usually don't latch on past jobs from the VA in the same fashion they don't do it in proper non interactive scripted Anime.
Not a lot of people watching Re:Zero calls Emilia "Megumin" only because the same VA from Konosuba performs that role.

>>5403275
VOD views: live stream views ratio is high compares to typical live streamer

>>5403383
She probably just has a more spread out audience being global and all, so more people having to catch up on vods.
I'm just guessing though.

>>5403383
What does that have to do with her past life? Are you asking if Gura numberfags care about live or VOD views more? Because they will not shut up about her VOD views.

>>5403457
No he's asking if her viewers are treating her like a video uploader rather than a livestreamer and thus making any effort to watch live. Most likely it's simply time zones like >>5403453 said.

>>5403520
Then yes that makes sense. All the people catching her VODs would have attended the live stream but they don't because everyone's in different timezones. That is usually the case with every streamer, not everyone can catch every stream.

Will it rise another trend?
From video uploader-meta(Kizuna AI)
to live stream-meta(Holo-Niji)
to live stream/VOD -meta because of Vtuber globalization

>>5403644
>That is usually the case with every streamer, not everyone can catch every stream.
True but for JP streamers there is no benefit for non JP speakers to catch up with the VOD.
EOP will either be in the live streaming or catch up with clips.
That does not apply to EN and Gura in particular.

>>5403703
Live stream vod meta sounds like just live stream meta anon. Nothing actually changes.

>>5403736
Doesn't Gura have a lot of JP fans and clipwatchers?

>>5403644
They will try to catch the stream if it's a big event.

>5k waiting
I dont think cumbuds care too much about catching it live

>>5403879
Yesterday she did streams during jp prime time and still has the same average viewers. Not sure if it's the nips though >>5390286

I recall Ina had two Miku painting streams
at total different time but still manage to get
almost same live viewers(10K+) which means Takodachi indeed spread globally.

>>5404493
Doesn't it apply to all HoloEN?

>>5404155
7k waiting
i think 40k to 50k would be the number. But you never know with gura her numbers fluctuate so much. her karaoke being an exmaple that had like 10k more than the last one.

>>5386501
Coco leaving Hololive is a win win win situation.
Still, those and the future concerts are going to make them loads of money mostly thanks to Coco's influence in making vtubers a global phenomenon.

>>5391979
Why are tourists like this?

How many people waited during Coco's birthday
stream right before it started?

>>5404680
I doubt it will even reach 20k at this rate

>>5404806
that's delusional.
>>5404760
16k if i recall but that was my memory

>>5404760
I don't remember exactly but to give some context if someone does Kanata was making Coco in Miitopia until the very start of the birthday stream so a lot of people were watching that and went straight to Coco's stream after, whereas now the only stream live is Ame reading superchats

If Gura releases her original later
I bet it will be the fastest to reach 10M views
because of fanbase number and it is her only song in her channel

>>5392283
>I think a dark skinned loli who can talk in wakanda,
>talk in Wakanda
>not the objectively superior Klingon
Ano, I understand you're a redditor, but you need to understand that Wakanda is normie tier garbage that attracts equally garbage fans.

>>5404944
i dont think she will beat mori since she is the muscial holo but she will indeed be fast.

>>5404944
I just hope it's a good song. Many ways to mess up a produced cover and I don't want her most viewed video to be something I actively dislike.

>>5404997
Mori has too many songs, her single song weekly views drop faster than her debut period.
But the total weekly indeed increase

>>5405134
mori is also a music channel so her numbers are skewed becasue of youtube auto generated views on her singles.

>>5405238
Yep, RIP has 7M views on Spotify
RIP has over 30M combined main channel+auto generated+ Spotify
not to mention iTunes...

bday numbers. can shark beat her?

>>5405607
I wouldn’t be surprised if Gura’s birthday stream does similar to her recent karaoke (44k), mainly because she’s been streaming non-stop, and so there is no buildup of anticipation. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong.

>>5400313
Anon, this would be a far more helpful chart if this included Kizuna Ai's data down to day zero.

>>5405607
No

>>5405465
why are you
typing
like this

>>5405607
not even 30k.

>>5405607
Graduation buff is too strong
plus she has 3D to perform

>>5396959
Pretty sure Apex is on the rise because more JP streamers who only play Apex have been moving to twitch,

>>5405607
dont think it will, coco is a special case right now.
50k might be the bet. But i would kneel if proved wrong.

>>5405607
it wasnt only cocos birthday it was THE LAST ASACOCO so that is hard buff that same chan doesnt have so i dont think so

>>5405800
>not even 30k
>>5405819
>50k
I had picked 44k. We shall see.

>>5405800
I bet you're the same anon who just said she wouldn't even beat 20k

>>5405607
Nope, Gura doesn't play the game that way. don't think she'll do the usual crown pleaser for her bday.
Btw, i'm sure Coco's bday would have had way more viewers, but a lot of people thought it was just an Asacoco and said to watch it later when subbed + it started at 8PM JP time when 9PM is the best hour. She kept gaining viewers till the last minute.

>>5405983
>>5406035
Lol, 21k waiting, never mind, it's looking pretty good.

>>5406167
And she's also at 15k$ before the stream even started pfff

>>5405984
I mistyped before, but she'll never reach 50k, and that's a fact

>>5407350
>40k 8 minutes in, climbing 2k per minute
Sure you don't wanna revise that again?

>>5407350
46k 15 minutes in, let's see where it goes when the call-ins start happening.

>>5408324
i think there might not be calls since she is running late.
but still 50k is pretty much guranteed

>>5405800
It's 51k now.

>>5407350
Uh oh?

>51k
next goal: can she beat coco's meme review 62k?

>>5407350
Way to make a fool of yourself.

>>5407350
ohnononono

>>5409341
>can she beat coco's meme review 62k?
over my dead body
fuck you all

>yagoo
kek
but the shirt looks is nice.

>>5409341
nah. 55k max

>>5409888
don't be fooled, that's just the Yagoo effect!
Mofo makes everything looks good, damn he's so stylish.

>52k even with call ins

>>5409341
won't even reach 100k, waste of time

>>5412642
53k

And people asks why Gura hardly celebrates her subs.
Lots of antis holds them against her or others so often it's boring.

It seems Gura is finally doing a song upload in a few days. Going to be interesting.

>>5414552
One million views in a day I would bet

>>5414552
I think conservative estimate would be 2 mil views by the end of the first week? If Calli is got that with her Roki cover, I think Gura can do it just from first original song hype.

speaking of numbers. it keeps happening.

>>5414645
>>5414747
https://gawrgura.streamlink.to/reflect

Not premiering on Youtube.

>>5414765
who are these people?

>>5381469
>>5375065
Are Ame's viewers poor?

>Couldn't beat meme review.
Oh nononono, cumtards don't look.

>>5415423
That is just stupid. YT will still put it on a Gawr Gura Topic. Or some clipper will upload it.

>>5415423
Weird, maybe the YT video wasn't ready to avoid spoilers before the stream.

>>5415423
I never considered the possibility of Gura's first song not having an MV. Even Korone's dogshit original song got an MV. That would be so retarded of Cover

Imagine having artists lining up their art, animations, letters and surprises for you. Not to mention, the endless shower of super chat and sold out merchandise on a one time thing every year. Does niji have this?

>>5416489
If you're saying vtubers getting fanart, videos, money, and birthday merch is a Gura exclusive thing I'm afraid you're terminally retarded.

>>5416489
It's not sold out.
Geekjacket list things that aren't on sale as sold out instead of unavailable.
It's all made to order.
The only thing that is actually limited is autographed artwork and even that is up to the talent (Nene and Watame don't make it limited)

>>5415423
It probably hasn't been uploaded to YouTube yet.

>>5416223
>Or some clipper will upload it.
Surefire way to get copystriked by Cover or whoever handles their music on YouTube.

>>5415423
>Not premiering on Youtube
It is, I assume it’s just not only going to be on YouTube. Which actually makes sense.

>>5416417
This ain't Cover. It's the talent that pays for it so it was Gura. She could have made profit with the mv alone

>>5416417
Never post again.

>>5416660
There's a lot of clippers that upload copyrighted unarchived karaokes. They do not care.

>>5416417
>cover helping the girls

>>5416417
Go back cumbud

>>5416621
Did I ever say it was a Gura exclusive thing after I mentioned Niji?

1. Releases first on YouTube
2. Also releases on other sites.

>>5416962
Even people who don't stream in Nijisanji get birthday goods. None of the shit you listed is Gura or Hololive exclusive.

>>5416869
It's actually different when it comes an actual song instead of a karaoke. ContentID will autoflag it and depending on how the rights holder approaches the matter, they can demonetize the upload, monetize and take all the ad money or strike the account.

Current playboard total is $44,870, could still go up a bit more as it processes but that's about what I was expecting, very very strong but nothing record breaking. Just outside the all time top 20 for a vtuber.

What happened, I thought that Gura would break 100k today?

>>5417467
I don't know about that. This is her 3rd stream for the day already and people have been donating since.

>>5416886
Even Nijisanji won't fund your covers or original music you put on your channel. If it's group releases then sure. For Bloom, noone paid anything.

>>5417576
Only ignorants in numbers like you would think that, no one here said that if you care to check, only schizos trolling.

>>5417118
Dude. A lot of the clippers would even show a picture of the copyright strike. They do not care. A lot do not monetize their channel.

>>5417467
So that is Gura's birthday SCs?
How much Coco had on hers with 3D and everything?

>>5417821
Cope.

>>5417576
Literally no one in the numbers threads said that

>>5417576
>I bet it won't hit 20k
>I bet it won't hit 30k
>I bet it won't hit 50k
>It didn't surpass Coco's 60k kek
>Gee didn't hit 100k? What happened
I hope you know what you sound like.

>>5418023
Constantly changing the goal posts because they don't have brains even to troll.

>>5417932
37k for the countdown and 32k for the Asacoco/3D

>>5418023
This schizos just made up their own stupid numbers comparisons proving nothing
>Why doesn't she have subs like this 10 year old regular streamer
>Why didn't she surpass Nintendo Direct E3 live views

>>5418319
So... not only Coco has 3D but also we add up multiple streams SCs together for birthday?
Coco is the queen of SCs already, but is that how we compare birthday streams now?

>>5418023
>I bet it won't hit 20k
>I bet it won't hit 30k
>I bet it won't hit 50k
Literally no one in the numbers threads said that
Based troll inventing stuff to change goals.

>>5401694
Yup, called it. Where's my money, Anons?

>>5418728
Its ITT or are you blind?

>>5418728
>>5405800
>>5404806
>>5407350
>>5412688
If you're going to lie at least try to cover your tracks a little

>>5418728
To add onto it
>>5117518
SC predictions
>>5283443

>>5417998
*Ahem*
>>/vt/thread/S5064321#p5118756
At least cover your lies a bit better.

>>5418946
Gura is in the little sister/daughter category. A lot more relatable than the Music and Drawing fanbase. Ame's fanbase is probably still saving up for the new GPUs kek.

So what's the next big number?
Among us collab?

Miko - 15k
Fubuki - 8k
Korone - 15k
Noel - 7k
Marine - 20k
Kanata - 11k
Coco - 4k
Lamy - 8k
Botan - 12k
-------
Total: 100k

This is the last among us collab for Coco.
With the graduation boost, will the combined views break 150k? 200k?

Where are the chumbuds?

>>5419693
Currently riding the high her humming in the voice pack gave me.
She's perfect.

>>5416635
anon, when its not limited that means it isn't their actual autograph, but a copy. The limited ones are hand written.

I have Towa's and Fubuki's.

>>5420163
Watame said during her bday stream that she was going to sign all the special edition ones herself... if it was a reasonable amount but even then she'll try her best. I believe the sheep will try but pretty sure management won't let her break her wrist signing merch.

>>5422372
Management can try but this is also the sheep that streams up to 8 hours a day due to reading supas and reads almost all her super chats. To a point I think I think she was put on mandatory break for a week, but she then started posting 30 second videos during her break.